Yes, as long as they execute the hardware and software well, as you, Dieter said. Where is the Dex-like feature? That should have been a no brainer considering their relationship with Samsung, and the Lumia ability to do it with Continuity (as someone pointed out to me). How will MS handle the Android update switch? Only time will tell. Heads up MS, Android 11 just came out. Get ready!
Daniel Winter Yeah man, it was a WHILE ago. Her videos were really entertaining, but I feel like the Verge has taken on a more tech centric and less pop-culture-esq feel in the past 2 years.
MK video is all the same. Some rich guy act and dress like he is still some kids who is unbiased but we all know he doesn’t. And he never really critique the big corporation products really negatively so don’t affect all those perks from them
It's amazing to see what Dieter can do when he's forced to spend an extra week working on a video like this. Fantastic work. You're the best in the business at this point.
This is my favorite iteration of the folding phone design. I think the clamshell exterior is the right approach, and I hope MS sees fit to make more of these things in order to improve on the issues in the first model.
I think MS CEO said “when you close it you’re finished.” Or something along thong lines. Great idea and great design. I hope to see more affordable designs and variety in specs like the rest of the Surface line.
I really enjoy this guys reviews they are very fresh, a little comical when needed and well thought out. My surface duo arrives today and although i do see a lot of negatives I really feel these issues will be ironed out. Great job on the video!
Dieter and the verge team, this is the best review I have seen in a long time! Well done! If I could hit double like I would. I love the idea this phone brings. Appeals so much more compared to the Galaxy fold and other foldable attempts. Would be awesome for typing at console or coding. Pity about the camera but there's gotta be some give I guess.
So, it´s early 2022 and I´m seriously considering the original Duo, now that the price dropped to around 600 euro´s. The Duo 2 has an even bigger pricetag than the original one, which, although improved, makes it a no go for me. If only MS dropped Android 11 already on this thing....
I'm in the exact same situation. Here in the UK all Surface devices cost a fortune, but, they are high quality products in general. That said I usually buy my phone Sim free so pay upfront in cash, and the list price was way out of my range, as is the Duo 2. Now the first gen have come down I love the idea of owning one. Great for work/productivity. I do wish the camera was a bit better, although I prefer how this first Gen has a camera which are flush to the chassis vs the Duo 2 where the cameras are proud of the chassis. The only thing that will let this down is Android, but that's out of MS's control...I hate Android. I loved my Windows phone. This is the best compromise, in theory...!
Dieter is so awesome, he's like 85% the reason I even watch the Verge. Also good job to the whole team working on this video, that's some next-level production quality!
The Verge deserves so many more subscribers than they have. These production values are so much better than other TH-cam Reviewers in a similar space. And Dieter is easily my favorite reviewer. You guys are literally the only channel I 'Bell'. Love it. Also - I love my Surface Duo.
I can tell you from my time with the V60 and the second screen, in the Duo’s current state, it’s not even a comparison. LG’s dual display works almost flawlessly and miles better than this current software version of the Duo not to mention the price difference and better pen support on both screens and better cameras.
Dont hold your breath, reviewers just dont give LG the respect they deserve. V60 got this thing beat in every way with the exception of thickness all for way less $$.
Best review so far in my opinion, and I have watched all. (CNET, Windows central, Marques Brownlee, and more) What people need to understand is this is not a PLAY PHONE. Microsoft is not aiming for gamers, photographers, movie watcher, etc. It is a WORK PHONE. The main focus is productivity. People like me... Got to pull over right quick when I received that important text to check my email, while on an important conference call.... And had to check the email, save the attachment, send a received receipt, sign the document, text the client a notification, email contract to all parties... All while still on my important call. Who cares about cameras? I believe all the lagging issues will soon be corrected through updates. I don't care for 5g either. This phone will be great for business use. I can always play my your surface book , surface pro, or my computer if I want. Productivity is number 1 when you're always on the move. I can sit it on my car dashboard for video conferencing too!? Thanks Microsoft!!
Dammit videos like this are why I love the verge. This could've been so dry but they instead made it probably the best review I'll find. Love the verge and the entire staff. Great job
I'm very surprised by the lack of optimisation by Microsoft for the surface duo, surely a software update and a patch will fix some of these bugs 👍Microsoft will fix the majority of these issues
@@penultimatename6677 yeah that's good, I'll say a lot of reviews have been without having this update, I just got a FedEx notification that mine is on its way Downunder 😎, hopefully by this time next week I'll be using the Duo
Couple of things missed in this video, aspect ratios of the screens 4:3 is so superior for everything other than watching a video and no camera bump. Other than that quite a good review. I am going for Duo over Note 20 ultra as I much prefer the aspect ratios, design, dual screen, no camera bump, and because its something new. Looking at my current phone, I rarely take photos anyway and those I take the quality doesnt really matter, its a pic sent in a chat or to instagram which really doesnt require any top notch camera. So tired of phonemakers focusing all their efforts on cameras and creating huge camerabumps that completely detroy the deisng of devices.
Did that ever actually get a public release? I recall Zac Bowden getting hold of one and doing a review but I'm not sure that they ever got it out officially.
The idea that you can't compare them is silly. Sure, they're not the same thing but they are also more similar to each other in that way than they are to regular phones. To not compare them would be silly, as people need to understand both the similarities and differences in order to know whether a folding, dual-screen device or a single folding screen is better for them.
It's december, the Microsoft Surface Duo is a great device at this point. It's software updates have squashed 90% of the bugs so it's a dope device now but unfortunately it may be too late
Loved the creative interface - great editing, nice sound, and creative content. I am rendering my review of the Surface 1.0 DUO, yeah, those bezels are too large.
Guysss YOUR VIDEOS ARE AWESOME 👍👍, I have been a subscriber to the verge for the past 10 years, It really puzzles me why your AWESOME channel isn't booming like other newer channels, why haven't you reached 10 million subscribers yet !!!! Anyways, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I really like your content it is geniune, unique and of superior quality 👍👍💪💪, FOR YEARS TO COME 😄✋
TH-cam reviewer: uhh camera, uhh processor, uhh ram, uhh... End user of Duo: "Wow! Look I'm being evermore productive" Reviewer: What? How did you just do that?
If Microsoft has been working on the same hardware for over a year, why is it still buggy? They might as well have updated the hardware while they were NOT delivering a polished product.
If I see dieter, I click. Instead of simply explaining the device specs and features like most reviewers, he actually give you a really good idea of the overall experience of using a device. Quality content as always.
@@hassanger8128 Yeah but we know that the Verge and all TH-cam reviewers know nothing about technology lol. Spent 10 minutes with the team in the store and they answered real in depth questions about nothing that was mentioned here and the whole damn point of the phone and Microsoft goals in mobile. I honestly watch reviews for pure comedic relief, and I heard this one was funny. Being someone with 35 years of living on the edge of technology the only thing that is useful from reviews is seeing the colors of the devices that's if their color science is done right.
I just picked this up a few days ago and it works very well. The camara doesn't compare to my old phone, the galaxy S10, but it works just fine for me. The updates worked out all the issues. I found that most of the so called bugs I came across were user error because it does have a few swipes and gestures to learn. Once I got these down I'm finding that I can hardly put my phone down. Just casual web surfing or anything productivity related is sooo much better with two screens. It's like going from a two monitor computer back to just a one monitor computer. You really feel like you're lacking when using a one screen phone. This is my everyday phone. I took a chance not knowing if I'd like it or hate it. I don't see myself going back to a regular phone again.
![[LIVE] : ONE ลุมพินี 89 | คู่เอก "ยอดไอคิว vs คิริลล์"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z3vYkHJ_5Ig/mqdefault.jpg)
Do you think Microsoft can compete with other Android folding phones?
“Don’t lie who else is a *FAN* 🐿"
“¡ᴍ ɢɪғ₮ɪɴɢ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏ🅞ɴᴇ ᴡʜᴏ ʟɪᴋᴇs ᴀɴᴅ sᴜʙs ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇ”🥜
Yes, as long as they execute the hardware and software well, as you, Dieter said. Where is the Dex-like feature? That should have been a no brainer considering their relationship with Samsung, and the Lumia ability to do it with Continuity (as someone pointed out to me). How will MS handle the Android update switch? Only time will tell. Heads up MS, Android 11 just came out. Get ready!
Apple should go bankrupt
Dieter is worth the ads
The quality of this review is flagship material for sure. Love this guys reviews and approach. Here just after MKBHD review
All right, so which one of us is gonna cave and change the headline?
hahaha that's exactly what I thought when I saw the feed!!
I saw your video first, so I'd say it's Dieter's turn!
1...2...3... not it! - Dieter
lol
No one needs to change! 👍Having two double trouble vids EMPHASIZES the double trouble 😂
The production value on this video is A+. Makes me really miss the verses videos.
Golden rule: wait for the second edition. Like the concept, but not there yet.
Same. Specially for the price tag, I believe phones like this will become more common and robust
Dinorah Barbosa by that time Samsung will likely have something better. shall we regroup in Oct 2021 and see how guesses right?
I agree... an exception to that rule, though: original Samsung Galaxy Note
Haven't seen versus since Lauren was with you guys!
huh - when did she leave?
@@DanielWinterAt like 3 years ago I think. She joined WIRED.
Daniel Winter Yeah man, it was a WHILE ago. Her videos were really entertaining, but I feel like the Verge has taken on a more tech centric and less pop-culture-esq feel in the past 2 years.
she has a podcast now too
i miss her, she doesn't even make videos now, SAD
OK verge, that title scene in the intro. Where the Duo spins is smooth as AF!!!!!! Daaaammmmmmnnnnnn
Thats the camera moving, bro. Its not telekinesis
The quality of this review is flagship material for sure. Love this guys reviews and approach. Here just after MKBHD review
same here! Top quality both videos and reviews
@@gadget00 this one was more fun though
TeRa NaAm BaHut WanNabE
MK video is all the same. Some rich guy act and dress like he is still some kids who is unbiased but we all know he doesn’t. And he never really critique the big corporation products really negatively so don’t affect all those perks from them
verge : we need more viewers
verge: what to do 🤔
verges: HITS THE DIETER BUTTON 🔳
It feels like we’ve been waiting forever for this embargo to end!
Wow the production quality of this video is phenomenal. The Verge just nailed it! Love that versus comeback!
The editing is dope
Wow. This video has one of the best story and cinematography quality I ever saw. This is art.
It's amazing to see what Dieter can do when he's forced to spend an extra week working on a video like this. Fantastic work. You're the best in the business at this point.
Does he do editing himself ? I thought he is an executive and the face for the company but doesn’t do the editing himself
The production quality is just amazing. It's a joy to watch well made videos.
Man, when Dieter starts a review in a sea of darkness, you know it’s gonna be tough.
This is my favorite iteration of the folding phone design. I think the clamshell exterior is the right approach, and I hope MS sees fit to make more of these things in order to improve on the issues in the first model.
It needs an exterior small display though, and a zillion other improvements.
I think MS CEO said “when you close it you’re finished.” Or something along thong lines. Great idea and great design. I hope to see more affordable designs and variety in specs like the rest of the Surface line.
Sharky165 i like that it doesnt
This is why I always watch Dieter's videos coz the production is lit! 🔥
I really enjoy this guys reviews they are very fresh, a little comical when needed and well thought out. My surface duo arrives today and although i do see a lot of negatives I really feel these issues will be ironed out. Great job on the video!
This review isn't a review. It's Art.
wow the quality that just goes into making this video is amazing
Dieter would make a great TH-camr
Honestly the worst reviewer ever
I mean Dieter IS a great youtuber
Rama Patir and yet here you are
@@ramapatir109 what.
@@ramapatir109 how
Definitely feels like a first gen device, but I like where they're going with this.
Dieter and the verge team, this is the best review I have seen in a long time! Well done! If I could hit double like I would. I love the idea this phone brings. Appeals so much more compared to the Galaxy fold and other foldable attempts. Would be awesome for typing at console or coding. Pity about the camera but there's gotta be some give I guess.
Dude is the highest quality reviewer around
Seriously this was a joy to watch! The quality of your videos just keep improving.
Really awesome production on this review, Verge crew. Maybe my favorite Dieter review ever.
Finally. It can now be powered on. 😂😂😂😂😂
So, it´s early 2022 and I´m seriously considering the original Duo, now that the price dropped to around 600 euro´s. The Duo 2 has an even bigger pricetag than the original one, which, although improved, makes it a no go for me. If only MS dropped Android 11 already on this thing....
I'm in the exact same situation. Here in the UK all Surface devices cost a fortune, but, they are high quality products in general. That said I usually buy my phone Sim free so pay upfront in cash, and the list price was way out of my range, as is the Duo 2. Now the first gen have come down I love the idea of owning one. Great for work/productivity. I do wish the camera was a bit better, although I prefer how this first Gen has a camera which are flush to the chassis vs the Duo 2 where the cameras are proud of the chassis. The only thing that will let this down is Android, but that's out of MS's control...I hate Android. I loved my Windows phone. This is the best compromise, in theory...!
Dieter is so awesome, he's like 85% the reason I even watch the Verge. Also good job to the whole team working on this video, that's some next-level production quality!
You are like the most likable tech reviewer in all of youtube, so professional without being boring, entertaining without becoming a clown.
Can't tell if there are two Dieters or one moving really fast back and forth.
The Verge deserves so many more subscribers than they have. These production values are so much better than other TH-cam Reviewers in a similar space. And Dieter is easily my favorite reviewer. You guys are literally the only channel I 'Bell'. Love it.
Also - I love my Surface Duo.
Dieter you always do awesome review incredible how you improve day by day. Keep it going.
I missed videos like this from the verge, thanks guys!!!
Disappointed that ‘Bieter Dohn’ didn’t get a mention under in the ‘Host’ in credits.
Definitely not worth $1400.00 but for $300.00 it's super cool!
8:35 that synchronized sigh 👌
When's the making of this video dropping? That's some of the best editing I've seen in a while
Versus with Dieter. Yes, this is how you bring it back.
What's better than one Dieter? Twoooo dieterssss loved it!!
i hope someone can compare the Microsoft Surface Duo, with the LG Velvet with its 2nd screen accessory.
uncomparable
I can tell you from my time with the V60 and the second screen, in the Duo’s current state, it’s not even a comparison. LG’s dual display works almost flawlessly and miles better than this current software version of the Duo not to mention the price difference and better pen support on both screens and better cameras.
Dont hold your breath, reviewers just dont give LG the respect they deserve. V60 got this thing beat in every way with the exception of thickness all for way less $$.
What a throwback with the versus section, very nice 👌
The verge good production is back finally
This Intro (and whole video, matter of fact) was fabulous. Well done.
The photography and soundtrack on this is amazing! Congrats to everyone
Best review so far in my opinion, and I have watched all. (CNET, Windows central, Marques Brownlee, and more) What people need to understand is this is not a PLAY PHONE. Microsoft is not aiming for gamers, photographers, movie watcher, etc. It is a WORK PHONE. The main focus is productivity. People like me... Got to pull over right quick when I received that important text to check my email, while on an important conference call.... And had to check the email, save the attachment, send a received receipt, sign the document, text the client a notification, email contract to all parties... All while still on my important call. Who cares about cameras? I believe all the lagging issues will soon be corrected through updates. I don't care for 5g either. This phone will be great for business use. I can always play my your surface book , surface pro, or my computer if I want. Productivity is number 1 when you're always on the move. I can sit it on my car dashboard for video conferencing too!? Thanks Microsoft!!
Have been refreshing all day to watch this!
Why? The embargo ended at 9 AM Eastern today
@@kevinbarry71 Didn't know that, just knew that it dropped some time today, haha
The production on this video is fantastic, excellent stuff
Continuum gonna have a come back
Ok, this production is top notch! I hope I enjoy using this device as much as I enjoyed watching this video. Well done guys. Love love love it!
holy....that intro....woooh 🔥🔥
God, in the first 2 mins, he explained why this thing exists instead of jumping to critique. Great job!
How I remember Dieter by:
"... But... Whatever" 😂😂
The two of you having a conversation is so good! Love this format.
Love how you handled the review man. Kudos.
How to make a Dieter review even better? Put 2 Dieters in the same video 🙌
The new nintendo ds lite looks great
Dammit videos like this are why I love the verge. This could've been so dry but they instead made it probably the best review I'll find. Love the verge and the entire staff. Great job
“It doesn’t really work for texting in one hand,” as he does so with one hand comfortably....
What a quality video. I mean the review was good too but just the way it was shot, the music everything was just fabulous
I had to watch this video twice because the Double Dieters totally stole my attention on the first watch.
I love the production value of this video. It's awesome. It's a nice change from the shot-from-home videos. Those were nice, but this >>>>>>>>
I'm very surprised by the lack of optimisation by Microsoft for the surface duo, surely a software update and a patch will fix some of these bugs 👍Microsoft will fix the majority of these issues
lol They took 5 months to fix Surface Book 3 faulty speakers through firmware
There is an update when first turning it on. They also had a camera update.
@@penultimatename6677 yeah that's good, I'll say a lot of reviews have been without having this update, I just got a FedEx notification that mine is on its way Downunder 😎, hopefully by this time next week I'll be using the Duo
I dig the personality Dieter brings into the reviews!
Microsoft definitely didn't bring their A game
do they have an ‘A game’? apart from xbox?
Totally worth it. I pre-ordered it and mine is coming today. I can't wait
They probably didn't use the cpu brace.
Couple of things missed in this video, aspect ratios of the screens 4:3 is so superior for everything other than watching a video and no camera bump. Other than that quite a good review.
I am going for Duo over Note 20 ultra as I much prefer the aspect ratios, design, dual screen, no camera bump, and because its something new.
Looking at my current phone, I rarely take photos anyway and those I take the quality doesnt really matter, its a pic sent in a chat or to instagram which really doesnt require any top notch camera. So tired of phonemakers focusing all their efforts on cameras and creating huge camerabumps that completely detroy the deisng of devices.
I audibly yelled when I saw Versus! I was very excited
I just wanted to say the production quality of the Verge videos are so good!
10:14 The first Surface was a table with a huge touch screen. 🤓
Did that ever actually get a public release? I recall Zac Bowden getting hold of one and doing a review but I'm not sure that they ever got it out officially.
This video was one of the most enjoyable things I have watched in a long time on TH-cam. Well done sir!!
The surface duo isn't a foldable how you can even compare it with the z fold 2🤷🏼♂️
Compare it with maybe ZTE Axon M.
Exactly, two screens with a hinge in the middle doesn't count as a true foldable.
The idea that you can't compare them is silly. Sure, they're not the same thing but they are also more similar to each other in that way than they are to regular phones. To not compare them would be silly, as people need to understand both the similarities and differences in order to know whether a folding, dual-screen device or a single folding screen is better for them.
@@wunnell people call it folding phone and this is wrong.
It's december, the Microsoft Surface Duo is a great device at this point. It's software updates have squashed 90% of the bugs so it's a dope device now but unfortunately it may be too late
It strangely reminds me of a Nintendo 3DS. Love the design. Great video
Verge's video quality is always superb, but I don't know why I feel like this is even better and a step up. The quality of this video is insane.
Wow Double things!!! Double Satisfaction with Android Os!!! Perfecto. Looking forward to other Project Surface Neo!!! Big is Better Yay 😀😁😀
This will sound weird, but couldn't help but notice that you're really pretty. Love your profile photo.
@@Nova-Solaris Woaw Shank U, this is just My Awkward Smile!!! 😀😁😀
Loved the creative interface - great editing, nice sound, and creative content. I am rendering my review of the Surface 1.0 DUO, yeah, those bezels are too large.
Ur website and channe have inspired me to start TH-cam channe!
My go to review channel. entertaining, educational and well presented
That intro was amazing.
Guysss YOUR VIDEOS ARE AWESOME 👍👍, I have been a subscriber to the verge for the past 10 years, It really puzzles me why your AWESOME channel isn't booming like other newer channels, why haven't you reached 10 million subscribers yet !!!!
Anyways, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I really like your content it is geniune, unique and of superior quality 👍👍💪💪, FOR YEARS TO COME 😄✋
I'm getting the duo. I'm literally only worried about the camera when traveling.
I'll have to carry my s10 too XD. I'll have 3 Fn phones.
I never knew i needed Versus with Dieter.
E-ink Kindle in this form please!
Dieter is the only reason i watch The Verge videoes
TH-cam reviewer: uhh camera, uhh processor, uhh ram, uhh...
End user of Duo: "Wow! Look I'm being evermore productive"
Reviewer: What? How did you just do that?
I really like the black background super clean and brings the focus directly on you, great info on a pretty interesting device!
If Microsoft has been working on the same hardware for over a year, why is it still buggy? They might as well have updated the hardware while they were NOT delivering a polished product.
How many decades have you been buying MS hardware for?
It's a 'feature'.
@@rbaxter286 lol it kinda feel strange if it is Microsoft and it doesn't freeze once or twice a day
Sadly it takes years and years to get these kind of software and hardware to work and several generations of products. We're all just beta testers
@@Ninjimdo Yes, I get it. The whole industry is one big Kickstarter now. I miss Steve Jobs.
If I see dieter, I click.
Instead of simply explaining the device specs and features like most reviewers, he actually give you a really good idea of the overall experience of using a device. Quality content as always.
5:14 I read 66 gb of RAM 😂
What a well-produced video. Great job to the team!
10:48 It's actually their 6th attempt, remember Microsoft Kin?
It was an unexpected but awesome surprise to see the return of Versus!!
Want it now this would be great for my BUSINESS
They already told you it is bad
@@hassanger8128 Yeah but we know that the Verge and all TH-cam reviewers know nothing about technology lol. Spent 10 minutes with the team in the store and they answered real in depth questions about nothing that was mentioned here and the whole damn point of the phone and Microsoft goals in mobile. I honestly watch reviews for pure comedic relief, and I heard this one was funny. Being someone with 35 years of living on the edge of technology the only thing that is useful from reviews is seeing the colors of the devices that's if their color science is done right.
This video is fantastic. Editing was dope, shots were amazing, clever delivery, and great contents.
Yaaay! I think I commented how I ,used Versus format not that long ago! Thanks, The Verge for listening!
I just picked this up a few days ago and it works very well. The camara doesn't compare to my old phone, the galaxy S10, but it works just fine for me. The updates worked out all the issues. I found that most of the so called bugs I came across were user error because it does have a few swipes and gestures to learn. Once I got these down I'm finding that I can hardly put my phone down. Just casual web surfing or anything productivity related is sooo much better with two screens. It's like going from a two monitor computer back to just a one monitor computer. You really feel like you're lacking when using a one screen phone. This is my everyday phone. I took a chance not knowing if I'd like it or hate it. I don't see myself going back to a regular phone again.
Each video just gets better than the last
Massive respect
The only thing better than Dieter is two Dieters.