@@Tizzy-sh5ql Its a combination of both. Steered too far and brought it back and then he suddenly caught front traction which caused all 4 to lose traction
Thank you so much for posting this so more people can learn from the mistake. Don't mind the armchair multiple WRC champions in the comments. This is exactly why those cars were made and mistakes are part of the journey.
@StuartVaughan47 This is a standard road car they're using for recce, it will have all the pre-collision and lane keep stuff in the front bumper as is standard with all GR Yaris'
@@gsonz172it’s not, I’ve driven it for work for three months, it’s lidar sensors in the bumper. They send out magnetic pulses, and read the signal of them bouncing back to detect how close you are to objects around you. Has nothing to do with a camera, the only camera it has is for reversing.
Glad you were ok! Also happy you posted this to show that accidents happen even to professionals - hence why those who aren't professionals should really not pretend they are. Hope you got everything fixed up and enjoying the car again!
I did a bunch of spirited snow driving in my Miata the other day. Getting a feel for it, trying things out, pushing limits. Crashed twice in 3 hours. Once from understeering wide, once from a spin to the inside. The plowed road edges were like meter-high cotton balls, so there was no damage, and my friend was able to pull me out without much issue. It's amazing how things go so well, and then when the crash is happening, you're telling yourself, "Here? Really?! You've gotta be kidding me." Then you get out, try to walk around, fall a couple times, and it all makes sense. From that experience, now I know that going out and doing that kind of driving on my own is totally out of the question.
@@tkarfi Kdybys to auto někdy řídil, tak tohle nenapíšeš ;-) Jsou auta která tě vypečou pokud uděláš něco jinak nebo zbrkleji. i auto má svoje drobné mouchy.
@@tkarfiMáš pravdu, nájezdovka byla moc. Každopádně je pravda, že Yaris má někdy tendenci jít ven po předku. Tady bych to ale určitě na auto nesváděl:)
"Nevím, co dělám." 😊 Jéžiš, stane se. Posádka bez ohrožení a autu se očividně nic moc nestalo. (Z fotek nevidíme podvozek, ale hádám, že tam nebude nic extra.) Led je prostě svinstvo, vůbec do zatáčky z kopce. Další dobrá zkušenost, příště se vám to tam nestane. 😊 Oklepat se a jedeme dál. Spoustu RZ bez nehod přeji!
He blipped the throttle as if it were RWD after the counter steer. So instead of the backend meeting him through the turn, the front end got pulled left.
@@jakubjancikI wonder if just stepping of the throttle (perhaps with some slight counter steer) would of straightened the car out - what are your thoughts after this situation in terms of 4WD?
Really impressive seeing when you decided it wasn't going to work, and aiming for the best possible area there and just getting it slowed down as much as possible. Rest of the drive seemed quite nice, but that red barrel on the right was a bit tricky just before the run down into the crash corner :o
Happens to the best of us also clear example why understeer is way more dangerous than oversteer and tbh awd is a double edged sword but keep up the pace mate 👍
Wdym understeer? This is literally lift-off OVERSTEER. The rear tires just lost traction because of load transfer to the front of the car and the rear started sliding.
The only way we learn is by making mistakes. Still much faster than I would ever attempt in the dry! Great conten, we get back up and go again!. Subbed.
Was expecting a more obvious mistake, but on that surface you were hittung all the previous corners gracefully... Then that one came up and I thought "oooh that's a sharp corner at the end of a downhill for this speed on this surface", I'm sure you thought the same thing. Looks like hopefully just a little cosmetic damage?
looks like he countersteered too early. But what do I know. I have a honda fit, and don't even drive like he does in that kind of slush. 😂 Keep your head up high and get back up on the Yaris.
This comforts me, I lost control while drifting my Tesla into the bushes, not crazy damage but more than scratches. Seeing a rally driver lose control like I did makes me feel a bit less sad❤️
"You were too fast" some of these people in this comment section are truly wiser than Walter Röhrl himself. Glad you're ok, I would've probably binned it there myself, racing on snow must be crazy :O
Weird, it looked like your counter steer was spot on. I'm wondering if the stability control was on? It could have prevented a proper catch. Just a thought.
The moment you over steered into that slippery corner I could see the car would skid, only way to drive through safely (in hindsight) was use the right bank which had some fresh snow in it. You positioned the car well next to the road. Hope you did not suffer too much damage to the car!
Really nice driving under time pression in very bad conditions. Glad You are ok. but after analizing 5 seconds before crash, conclusions can be drown, this is just my hipothesis. Wish You fun and victories!
Welp, I am not a real driver, but this happened to me this year xD I was luckier as I have a wide car and I fell in the ditch but the car was wide enough not to roll over. The tow truck just pulled me out and I could drive home, there was no damage at all (lucky me :D) But I usually drive fast... this time I drove slow as heck and darn ice still spanned me out... Considering images in postimg you guys also had luck :D Great driving and best of luck in next races 🤘🤘
Classic overcorrection. Shit happens to everyone - you drive very good anyway! I guess you were used to a RWD car before? Did the Yaris sustain a lot of damage? Either way, cool video, nice, challenging roads too! Need to do a trip to mountains myself one day, even for a calm drive in my completely civil Nissan Primera 2.0TD. Hi from Poland! More Yaris videos please =) The new GR Toyotas are one of the few new cars that seem very fun and interesting and probably obtainable to a well-off but still a "regular" person =)
My "armchair" based on pushing an MR2 mk 2 first gen to the limit on old school 90s tyres, sometimes on UK iced up roads. He counter steered too much to the left. It's always tricky to "catch" the oversteer just at he right mo and back off.
I have a very modified AWD vehicle and live on a long gravel road, so I'm no stranger to adverse conditions. But watching this just made me uncomfortable the whole time. We do get snow but I just do not enjoy driving at 10/10ths in snow 😅 So easy for the slightest error to completely punish you. Appreciate the vid though.
man i wish the US had rallies where you could run a regular street car. Here the only way to rally is to have a $15,000 car and $5000 in other expenses for just the event.
postimg.cc/gallery/3hDhYDK how the car ended📍
cant see
hardly a scratch on it!
Why'd you put it on a trailer?
What kind of wheels are you running? :)
Jakub jancik
Most peaceful crash ever
Fortunately
A gentle understeer leading to a bush hug 🤗
@@cheesebusinesshe snap over steered bc awd drifting is sketch and if u grab tracion it slings u in the other direction
@@cheesebusinessundersteer is when u going fast af and the front tires loose grip making ur car drive foward
@@Tizzy-sh5ql Its a combination of both. Steered too far and brought it back and then he suddenly caught front traction which caused all 4 to lose traction
Thank you so much for posting this so more people can learn from the mistake. Don't mind the armchair multiple WRC champions in the comments. This is exactly why those cars were made and mistakes are part of the journey.
Thanks for the kind words!
What armchair champions? Is it bad that someone is explaining why this happened?
Thanks for sharing. This is really good and reminds us that even the best drivers can get into these situations if they push hard
Thanks for the kind words✌🏻
The impact doesn't seem to be too bad. Clean driving until then and I really love the GR Yaris.
The repair bill will be painful though, with all those sensors new cars have in their bumpers.
@@centralintelligenceagency9003 What sensors lol? This particular car would have nothing in the front bumper
@StuartVaughan47 This is a standard road car they're using for recce, it will have all the pre-collision and lane keep stuff in the front bumper as is standard with all GR Yaris'
@@cookie6443 Lane Keeping stuff is behind the windshield (camera) but radar and parking sensors are placed in the bumper, yeah.
@@gsonz172it’s not, I’ve driven it for work for three months, it’s lidar sensors in the bumper. They send out magnetic pulses, and read the signal of them bouncing back to detect how close you are to objects around you. Has nothing to do with a camera, the only camera it has is for reversing.
incredibly lucky impact, glad you and the car is ok!
Glad you were ok! Also happy you posted this to show that accidents happen even to professionals - hence why those who aren't professionals should really not pretend they are.
Hope you got everything fixed up and enjoying the car again!
That screen in the aircon vent is so cool
Until you realize it's blocking the airflow 🤷♂
@@pete5405 not sure about that. if you look above the screen, there is a vent
@@spherical_99 thats the intake vent
I did a bunch of spirited snow driving in my Miata the other day. Getting a feel for it, trying things out, pushing limits. Crashed twice in 3 hours. Once from understeering wide, once from a spin to the inside. The plowed road edges were like meter-high cotton balls, so there was no damage, and my friend was able to pull me out without much issue. It's amazing how things go so well, and then when the crash is happening, you're telling yourself, "Here? Really?! You've gotta be kidding me." Then you get out, try to walk around, fall a couple times, and it all makes sense. From that experience, now I know that going out and doing that kind of driving on my own is totally out of the question.
nic, jdu ven
"Seru na to, du domů!" 🙂
Do domu do spania😊
Ахах😂
Yaris tohle prostě dělá… Někdy na kontra reaguje přehnaně a když se to spojí s proměnlivou podmínkou, je to na prdlačku. Jinak jedeš hezky! 🔥
a co Yaris dělá? najel si do zatáčky nepřiměřenou rychlostí, proč to svádět na auto
@@tkarfi Kdybys to auto někdy řídil, tak tohle nenapíšeš ;-) Jsou auta která tě vypečou pokud uděláš něco jinak nebo zbrkleji. i auto má svoje drobné mouchy.
@@tkarfiMáš pravdu, nájezdovka byla moc. Každopádně je pravda, že Yaris má někdy tendenci jít ven po předku. Tady bych to ale určitě na auto nesváděl:)
Děkuji za pochvalu. Jojo. Bylo toho moc naráz, autu naštěstí nic není:)
@@tkarfithe yaris tries to correct itself too, so when two are trying to correct, it overcorrects
Many vehicles do this...
"Já nevim co dělám"
To je u řidiče celkem blbá vlastnost🤣
Tak chlapi...do příšťi sezóny hodně zdaru a méně přikop💪✌️
Asi tak. Kdyby mu spolujezdec neřekl že budo na ledu. Aneb co neubrzdíš neukecáš.
Nojo, stane se. Bohužel, aspoň vím co a jak pro příště🙈
@@jakubjancik Jj třeba pamatovat si nebo mít respekt ze slova LED.
"Nevím, co dělám." 😊 Jéžiš, stane se. Posádka bez ohrožení a autu se očividně nic moc nestalo. (Z fotek nevidíme podvozek, ale hádám, že tam nebude nic extra.) Led je prostě svinstvo, vůbec do zatáčky z kopce. Další dobrá zkušenost, příště se vám to tam nestane. 😊 Oklepat se a jedeme dál. Spoustu RZ bez nehod přeji!
He blipped the throttle as if it were RWD after the counter steer. So instead of the backend meeting him through the turn, the front end got pulled left.
Yep he should've steering into the corner if he wanted to throttle out but that's fine everyone makes mistakes
So that means he is used to drive a rwd car?
@@Imnameless69 I drove rwd like 2 times in my lifetime😂
@@jakubjancik Okay, I just don‘t know about this kind of stuff, even though I play alot with the simulator for 2 years now
@@jakubjancikI wonder if just stepping of the throttle (perhaps with some slight counter steer) would of straightened the car out - what are your thoughts after this situation in terms of 4WD?
Fuck that’s a tough corner, was great driving overall
it was too much speed for such corner imho, it was 50kmh on speedo
@@hottyrespovs6790 agreed
@@hottyrespovs6790 didn't knew 50 is too much, but I noticed grip wasn't there sadly
@@hottyrespovs6790 40km/h 0:59
Really impressive seeing when you decided it wasn't going to work, and aiming for the best possible area there and just getting it slowed down as much as possible. Rest of the drive seemed quite nice, but that red barrel on the right was a bit tricky just before the run down into the crash corner :o
Happens to the best of us also clear example why understeer is way more dangerous than oversteer and tbh awd is a double edged sword but keep up the pace mate 👍
This isn't understeer though.
Wdym understeer? This is literally lift-off OVERSTEER. The rear tires just lost traction because of load transfer to the front of the car and the rear started sliding.
@@dazeen9591 He initially was understeering, overcorrected just a tad bit too much, then sent it into an oversteer where he crashed I think
@@dazeen9591 If you look closely, he pulls the handbrake, thats why the car suddenly oversteers.
Great video! Thanks for sharing! My heart freezes when I realised you are not going to recover this tail slip...
Bro at the end politely said "well then, I am going out"
The only way we learn is by making mistakes. Still much faster than I would ever attempt in the dry! Great conten, we get back up and go again!. Subbed.
driving my octavia 3 on freezing snow in my town at 40kph feels exactly the same :))
They're not even mad lmao looks like it was really fun
Trying to get the car out for several hours wasn’t that enjoyable tho
@@jakubjancik How did you get it out in the end?
@@rhyanandrews1979 They probably brought some Audi to pull them out 😆
@@makerudji6682 quattro powerrr hahaha
My guy switching into first gear between 40-50 km/h. That’s mad😂
ten countersteer bol až privelky, inak pekna jazda, na taky stage sa treba lepsie vyspat, prajem vela stastia ;)
I'm glad you were both fine and the accident was minor. It can happen even to the best, you handled it very well though. :)
When he didn't break early enough, I was like: "Oh no :O"
oh man that sucks. very lucky it was in between the big stuff
Was expecting a more obvious mistake, but on that surface you were hittung all the previous corners gracefully... Then that one came up and I thought "oooh that's a sharp corner at the end of a downhill for this speed on this surface", I'm sure you thought the same thing. Looks like hopefully just a little cosmetic damage?
looks like he countersteered too early. But what do I know. I have a honda fit, and don't even drive like he does in that kind of slush. 😂
Keep your head up high and get back up on the Yaris.
Mother natures always wins at the end and the neighborhood cheered lol
What a sweet car. Hope she is fixed and back on the road soon!
This comforts me, I lost control while drifting my Tesla into the bushes, not crazy damage but more than scratches.
Seeing a rally driver lose control like I did makes me feel a bit less sad❤️
Ah damn, I hope there wasn't too much damage, but it was quite a drop. These things happen, glad it was a low-speed accident and everyone seems okay.
It happens man, been there myself! Your reaction was very calm, well done bro😎
Good driving👊🏻 the off was unfortunate tho. small mistake
You’re skating on thin ice buddy!
I’m glad you’re though🙏🏾
"You were too fast" some of these people in this comment section are truly wiser than Walter Röhrl himself.
Glad you're ok, I would've probably binned it there myself, racing on snow must be crazy :O
Looking back, what would you have done differently? Not counter steered?
less speed, they alluded to that in another comment
Great Driving Dude
vent display is so nice
You were doing so well! Hopefully the car is ok
Weird, it looked like your counter steer was spot on. I'm wondering if the stability control was on? It could have prevented a proper catch. Just a thought.
just too icy
Nope, this particular car has no assists
The moment you over steered into that slippery corner I could see the car would skid, only way to drive through safely (in hindsight) was use the right bank which had some fresh snow in it.
You positioned the car well next to the road. Hope you did not suffer too much damage to the car!
Really nice driving under time pression in very bad conditions. Glad You are ok. but after analizing 5 seconds before crash, conclusions can be drown, this is just my hipothesis. Wish You fun and victories!
This man is a much braver driver than me i would barely feel confortable going this fast in the dry
which is just right for normal people
Hes going like 25 mph..... That is super slow lmao. In snow its fast. In dry its slow.
@@gamezahoy712that’s the point
Soft landing! A few deep scuffs and broken plastic but should be ok
Seemed like more of an unplanned parking than a crash 🤷♂️
Too much speed there. I could literally see it, been driving in snowy conditions in Norway for 20 years...
whoops! that doesnt look too bad fortunately, good part about racing in the snow, even if it does go wrong it cant go that wrong.
And the practice goes on. This is how you learn kids, unfortunately.
With no roll cages is savage
Tak to byla nejvíc stoická reakce na bouračku co jsem kdy viděl
the ice haha, sometimes youre just too far gone
Your steering adjustments are brutal “armchair wrc driver”
Really good video on really difficult conditions
that toyota sounds so good wow
These are average Ohio roads, only thing missing are the major potholes
Welp, I am not a real driver, but this happened to me this year xD I was luckier as I have a wide car and I fell in the ditch but the car was wide enough not to roll over. The tow truck just pulled me out and I could drive home, there was no damage at all (lucky me :D) But I usually drive fast... this time I drove slow as heck and darn ice still spanned me out... Considering images in postimg you guys also had luck :D Great driving and best of luck in next races 🤘🤘
The „beep“ comes up when you pull the handbrake right? So why did you pull the handbrake?
thanks for sharing video, nice driving with little damn mistake :
Hope the car wasn't too damaged, but by the looks of it, it seems okay! Awesome driving though :)
Лёд, но ехали аккуратно и последствия минимальны.
So is was because it's AWD and the front wheels pulled yoiu off the road, right? If it were RWd that would've been fine?
Polska pozdrawia 🎉
That look of disappintment at 1:05...
Права четыре... Лева четыре....
Походу, я понимаю чешский!
Is it just the dynamics of this car, or is this driver using too much steering input, inducing understeer?
Classic overcorrection. Shit happens to everyone - you drive very good anyway! I guess you were used to a RWD car before? Did the Yaris sustain a lot of damage? Either way, cool video, nice, challenging roads too! Need to do a trip to mountains myself one day, even for a calm drive in my completely civil Nissan Primera 2.0TD. Hi from Poland! More Yaris videos please =) The new GR Toyotas are one of the few new cars that seem very fun and interesting and probably obtainable to a well-off but still a "regular" person =)
My "armchair" based on pushing an MR2 mk 2 first gen to the limit on old school 90s tyres, sometimes on UK iced up roads. He counter steered too much to the left. It's always tricky to "catch" the oversteer just at he right mo and back off.
I don't know much about rally but why not use studded tires when there's this much snow and ice?
They didn’t allow them to prevent damaging the roads
That's not a bad way to wreck. Cool drive though, looked like you were doing good up till then. Looks like a lot of fun.
Is that screen on the left standard? That's cool
Thankfully it didn't seem too bad. What did you say directly after?
That's just how you park in rally.
Did the driver pull the hand brake to get more angle?
I have a very modified AWD vehicle and live on a long gravel road, so I'm no stranger to adverse conditions. But watching this just made me uncomfortable the whole time. We do get snow but I just do not enjoy driving at 10/10ths in snow 😅 So easy for the slightest error to completely punish you.
Appreciate the vid though.
unlucky mate. hope its not too expensive to repair!
That look of disappointment from your partner :(
Why does he turn the wheel like understeering doesn’t exist at 0:26 and 0:59?
What really happend looks to me like he tried to drift it like a rwd car but it just straightened from him using to little throttle for 4wd?
"Che t'avevo detto Tommà?!"
That could have gone way worse, lucky outcome
Too bad for the accident. How did you turn off the multimedia center?
It’s in the settings
I know the feeling
Goddam that was hard track...
What kind of rally is this that you don't need to have anti-roll bars inside the car? No hate, I'm just really curious
i was wondering exact the same thing.
bro forgot that if in doubt go flat out
man i wish the US had rallies where you could run a regular street car. Here the only way to rally is to have a $15,000 car and $5000 in other expenses for just the event.
They do. Different classes require different car and safety specs.
@@HondaFit4Adventure Where? Any real rallying in New England requires full roll cage, fire suppression, rated seatbelts, seats, etc.
@@jesse.vr6there is a lot of amateur series and races here in Europe. Usually they require rollcage but there are some that don’t
I did this exact thing yesterday in my car luckily i hit a guardrail instead of going down the hill that was behind it
He was afraid to drift that right 3 so he corrected the car too late and crashed. Happens
Tyjoo tak tohle je fakt smůla, celou dobu se řidič držel ale led je led... :/
so satisfying
boi thought he was driving a Subaru... LOL
Thats an incredibly tricky bit if road. A very graceful accident though
Thank god its not major crash! What tires are you running?
15” size rims, local and legendary VRANÍK winter tyres
@@jakubjancik note it, I'll probably get it for my Miata. Unless there's better one for RWD.
Don't press gas pedal on the turns, guys :)
(Rallly drivers literally drifting every corner at redline)
0:55 widać ograniczenie do 30km/h. Gdybyście jechali zgodnie z przepisami nie było by wypadku.
This was epic...
What did the co-driver say before the crash? Something with slower right? Anyway thanks for sharing
right 6 long, ice!
What’s the device named that’s showing real time data on the left side screen? Is the car running stock ecu?
Syvecs controller ecu, CANchecked display