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Incase you haven't heard, you can harvest a handcuff key from a bic lighter. I tested this myself, and to my surprise, worked. The shaft that runs down the center is what becomes the key, it just takes a little filing and being gentle as you open the cuffs. It is st plastic after all.
Hey, if you go to most outdoors shops you can buy really big, thick ferrocerium rods (the flint in a lighter) and if you heat them up with say a blow torch and throw them its way cooler
My friends and I use to look for those same cheap lighters while we roamed the neighborhoods to do exactly this. The lighter must be almost out of liquid butane and this was during summer days in Texas I assume the heat from the sun and the lack of pressure allowed some of the Butane to change to gas inside the lighter instead of only having liquid. When full of liquid it has to change states of matter before it can be lit by the spark ( the spark is not reliable ) also the escaping liquid will become very cold due rapid expansion from the pressure change. And cause water in the air to form in to a liquid, and maybe even solid ice. When I was older I bought 5 brand new lighters just to do this, Thinking it being full, would make the fireball bigger I was wrong.
Dear Rogues: I'm not gonna say you're doing it wrong, because you basically have the technique down pat. However, I have done this myself and gotten a nice little fireball, so I have some tips: 1) Every lighter I managed to explode, with fire and all, was not new, some of the butane had been used prior to popping it. 2) When throwing it, I found that if you kept the lighter lit for a brief period of time beforehand (nothing ridiculous like getting it to start melting, just getting the lighter itself to heat up a bit, say 10-12 seconds max) it would more reliably give a nice fiery cloud, which I am guessing with my limited knowledge of thermodynamics was because the combination of the pre-existing heat and the spark of impact made it easier to reach the flash point of the butane cloud, and finally 3) When it worked, it was usually in a rougher surface than the concrete slab you used, ie the asphalt of a street or parking lot, maybe because...more friction on impact? Not sure on that one. Anyway, much love regardless from Oklahoma, would be interested to see some more thorough testing with both the lighters and ferrocerium rods with the ideas I mentioned! :)
Great suggestions, also perhaps they can try different brands of lighters. Although, these flimsy, cheap, thin-plastic lighters seem like they'd fracture more easily than a Bic lighter or similar. :)
When I was in high school all we did was explode lighter. Thank you public schools, when i did it I used a Bic. Every other one was not as good or not working. Bic's spark better when hit and also, throw like a Man!
Considering they managed to put out an open flame I don't think 2 and 3 really matters. I think 1 is where it's at. In a school yard scenario you wouldn't go to the store and buy a new lighter and throw that to the ground, you would have an old or discarded lighter. My guess is that it probably works best with a spent lighter with just a tiny bit of fuel so the whole thing can aerosolize (I'm pretty sure that's a word). As you said, when it works it's a little fireball, and a whole lighters worth of fuel would be a pretty sizeable fireball.
You actually need to snap off the silver thing until you find a small white wheel. Attached to that you'll find the flame adjuster still connected. Just lift it up and move it to the right so that you can adjust the wheel to allow more gas out. It will spit out fuel. Which you light with a second lighter. Then when you throw it there will be a strong flame to ignite the gas. Also helps to do it in a sheltered place with no wind.
I think the problem is that the lighters are full of butane. Everytime I have exploded a lighter by throwing it at the ground it was always a lighter that was out of fuel. That's the reason I would be smashing the lighter in the first place😂 I think the full lighter is releasing so much butane it doesn't have a chance to mix with air and ignite.
If you have a full lighter you need to remove the Flint and the spring and wrap the spring around the Flint and then reinsert it and then take another lighter and get the Flint red-hot before you slam the lighter on the ground so that the Flint will give you the Sparks that you need to ignite the vaporize lighter fluid
Um but for something to ignite it needs to have a certain air/fuel mixture. Its usually the flint hitting the ground causing the leaking butane to ignite
When I was younger and walking around, any time we found a discarded lighter around, we would do this. The thing we did different, was to light the lighter before we threw it down. It worked better if you had one of them with the valve you could tweak the flame up and down. We would do a method where you can bypass how far you can heighten the flame, then light and throw. Sure you can find info on how to do that, if you don't already know. Still, it wasn't a 100% guarantee it will ignite and the explosion isn't that large.
You guys are getting the puff of butane, but as me and my best friend used to do this all the time we have learned that the fireball is most common on a 10-40% full lighter. When they are like that I tend to get a fireball almost every time.
no this is correct. You do that when your lighter does not light that well, so you just go bang. Who the fuck breaks new lighters for fun? "modern rogue" ofc.
I think the problem is that when the lighter ruptures, the puff is pure butane, and not mixed with oxygen from the air. A cloud of pure butane could actually extinguish any flames initiated by an initial spark, or the candle as seen at 6:55. Also, I approve of the "Spoon!" war cry.
As a commenter, I feel like I'm getting mixed messages. Also, my best guess as to what's happening is that the spark (on the off chance a spark forms) is being created and dying out just before the butane is released, combined with the fact that its too close to the cloud of butane, so that the butane meets the spark before the right ratio of oxygen can form for combustion. I.E., bad spark timing combined with too rich of a fuel mixture at the spark's location.
While the spark is probably a very unreliable igniter, it's also an issue of the temperature of the gas being too low to ignite. Since the gas expands so quickly it cools down by a lot. Which is how the cloud was able to extinguish the burning candle without catching fire.
My friends and I use to look for those same cheap lighters while we roamed the neighborhoods to do exactly this. The lighter must be almost out of liquid butane and this was during summer days in Texas I assume the heat from the sun and the lack of pressure allowed some of the Butane to change to gas inside the lighter instead of only having liquid. When full of liquid it has to change states of matter before it can be lit by the spark ( the spark is not reliable ) also the escaping liquid will become very cold due to the pressure change. And cause water in the air to form in to a liquid, and maybe even solid ice. When I was older I bought 5 brand new lighters just to do this, Thinking it being full, would make the fireball bigger I was wrong. Fire does not need oxygen if it has another fuel source IE butane
@@c1h2r3i4s56987 Absolutely incorrect, outside of some very extreme conditions. Fire (i.e., combustion) is a reaction where a given substance is rapidly exothermically oxidized (oxygen is the primary method of doing this, but more electronegative gases such as Fluorine and Chlorine will also do it). Since the prevalence of gaseous Chlorine and Fluorine in the atmosphere is stupidly low, barring something like chemical warfare or an industrial accident, outside of those two conditions, every fire you will encounter will be oxidized by oxygen (hence the term). There's some other even more exotic ways of oxidizing a fuel, but they're even more uncommon than Cl and F. Suffice it to say, oxygen is not a fuel, it is an oxidant. And if you find yourself encountering a fire being oxidized by something other than oxygen, you should either be running away EXTREMELY fast, or praying to whatever higher power you believe in (of course, that's good advice for a lot of oxygen fires as well).
This is true, my mate was with his mate in a barn in summer chucked a lighter at the floor set fire to the barn and cause 40,000 quid in damages and went off to juvie
So when I did it as a kid I did it with empty lighters I found on the street that people threw out. Never had a ball of fire but I did get a nice loud bang...not a poof.
I think that a full lighter has too much gas inside, so when it expands it pushes the oxygen away so it can't burn. I also did it with a almost empty lighter and dropping it from a 3rd floor.
The butane in the lighter is compressed, so when the plastic cracks and the butane escapes, it rapidly expands. That rapid expansion causes the gas to cool down a lot, and probably makes it too cold to ignite!
Not a distraction but a cool trick that works: Ignite the lighter and tape down the button so it stays lighted. Place it on the ground and hit it with a golf club. The flame at the source will burn the butan.
Found a lighter on a beach once that had a bunch of barnacles on it. Threw it on the ground and it had a little fiery explosion, but didn't break apart. I gave it another couple hits and it didn't explode but it could do a pretty angry spark. Based on that accidental encounter, I'm going to say it's the same problem you faced with the potato gun - the fuel air mixture. A lot of commenters have said that it's an issue with the amount of fuel coming out, claiming it worked better with half-empty lighters.
Upon breaking the vaporized butane is above the Upper Explosive Limit for a brief moment in the immediate area, meaning there is not enough available oxygen to intiate a reaction with the ignition source.
I remember doing this as a kid in Australia around 15 years ago and while it wasn't all the time we definitely got fiery explosions. I tried it a few years later, and I have a sneaking suspicious that maybe some sort of safety lighter was introduced that made this harder to do, because I could never replicate it either. We also used to use the lighters first a little bit, cause fire is fun, and a few other comments have mentioned doing this too. In fact, I distinctly recall us doing this multiple times with lighters we'd find in the street, which we'd just pick up and huck at the ground to see what happens.
Grind up the flint very carefully. You get better results than just lighting flint on fire, but its a powder rather than a burning red solid so it ignites instantly like gunpowder and burns fairly brightly compared to gunpowder.
If you attach the ferro rod and spring to the outside you’ll have tons of sparks to ignite the gas. It’s a combination of what you did plus the ferro rod sparks that can work reliably
Wait, I can get you to test things for an hour in the dark by just confidently telling you it? Brian, duh, you can make a really simple flashbang by posting me a dollar.
if its either hot out or you light the lighter for a few seconds before hand and the lighter is under half full you can get it to make a fireball every time.
This is a thing that I did when I was a kid, but I also remember that we made sort of a cannon out of carbid, a PVC pipe, a lighter/candle, water and something like a piece of wood with a LOT of hot glue. Step 1:Drill a whole on the lower side of the PVC Step2:Take a piece of wood and jam it as much as possible in the bottom of the PVC with a hammer and put hot glue everywhere. Step 3:Take the carbid, put it in the chamber of you make-shift cannon put water(preferably hot water) in with the chamber of the cannon Step 4: Take the cannon put it on its side with the hole facing you, resting on like a 5 foot log or some boxes Step 5: Wait 5 seconds and put the lighter like 1 cm from the whole, thats when you hear BOOM Repeat if you want to continue with shooting, REMEMBER if black smoke is coming out of the pipe and when you try to fire it a big flame comes up that means that you have to reset the cannon and try again, the reason for that is when the water hits the carbid it can come up to such a temperature that it starts to burn, you can use the same piece of carbid like 5 times, but remember to put water in every 2 shots. If you see this comment then please make a video about it:)
I remember doing this when I was like 8 years old. We lived at a rough neighborhood with bunch broken lighters just laying in the dirt and on the street. We just though it made a really loud bang and looked cool, we never got full on fireball explosions either.
Only works with those crappy disposable lighters. Light the lighter, hold it lit for a bit, throw while lit. Essentially, you do not let off on the flame until the moment it would leave your hand. I've done this a bunch of times. Not 100% success rate of course, but pretty often. Note: the lighters I had thrown to explode were rigged as in. if you take the metal cover off the lighter. you can mess with the flame adjustment and ramp up how big the flame is, then replace metal cover. Light it and throw all the same.
For reliable fireball effect take the flint and spring out. Wrap the flint in the spring and attach the spring to the lighter. Then heat the flint until it glows and then throw the lighter.
If you pull the spring and flint out. then stretch the spring and wrap one end around the flint to hold it. Then get the flint red hot and through it on a hard surface. You'll get a bang. The spring holds it for you, you hold the spring.
Try taping the first flash bang (flint + spring) to another lighter. This way the flash bang will spark as the lighter explodes resulting in a fireball.
I’ve done this in my garage. Used a burning rag as a pilot light. I say use a mousetrap trip wire with an electric match or a strike anywhere match rigged up to strike as a pilot light and have the bar of the trap break the lighter.
Everytime when we used this method in my area, we also used rubber bands. So, you start the lighter, while lever for gas is pressed and it burns, rubber band is put over it (another part of rubber band goes over bottom of lighter) and then you throw it so it lands on bottom part. It ignites immediately with nice large fireball. Ratio of success with this kind of method is 4/5.
The puff is a BLEVE, ( boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion) they tend to put out sparks/fires depends on the amount of liquid and the explosion overpressure.
Try taking out the flint and spring carefully. Wrap the spring around the flint and then wrap that to the lighter securely. Heat up the flint till it is red hot, then toss it hard. Discard the metal cover.
You guys should try this again, but empty the lighters to about 20% of their capacity (or even less). Since you're throwing these full, the expanding butane pushes air (and thus, oxygen) away, and you will not get it to light up. Also, try removing the metalic shield, it helps with getting a spark more consistently.
I used to throw lighters all the time as a kid. It was fun. I once tied a dozen of them with duct tape and made a trail of gasoline to light like a fuse. The blast was pretty loud, made a mess and made a massive fire ball. Also the fire department was called from a neighbor and I got in a lot of trouble.
I've had a lighter explode throwing it down one time. I tried it again dozens of times, but never got it to happen after that one time. It was pretty cool when it happened though. Also as a Lock Picking Lawyer fan I can fully admit we can be very obnoxious at times. He can make stuff look too easy sometimes because his videos are short and concise, but he obviously does a ton of prep work so that he doesn't have failures on camera. The point of watching Modern Rogue is to experiance those failures though. On the same note you guys should do a collab on lock picking with one of the bigger locksmith TH-cams. It is actually a really fun and fulfilling hobby and it is a great skill if the shit ever hits the fan.
couple of reasons it didnt go off. theres just to much gas. if you noticed when you threw the last one and it surrounded the candle it snuffed it out instead of igniting, its because all that rapid expansion of gas forced the oxygen needed for combustion away. not to mention its extremely cold when it instantly transforms from a liquid to a gaseous state. its only able to stay a liquid because its under pressure, about 2 atmospheres which causes it to remain a liquid at room temperature.
You have to remember as the butane escapes and turns from liquid to gas it sucks in heat energy making it's surroundings very cold. Fire needs heat to happen so a cold environment prevents ignition and could even put out your candle.
I've found that my best results for a considerable BANG, was using old lighters with about 1/4 to 1/8 butane left in it and leaving it in direct sunlight for a few hours to heat up. 85% of the time it yeilds an M-80 size bang
I have heard of welders being killed by exploding lighters. Welding instructor at my college told us we would be permanently kicked out of his class if we were caught with a butane lighter in his shop
A friend in 2nd grade grabbed a near empty lighter. Threw it onto a concrete road and it created a loud explosion. I think the lighters should be pretty much empty for it to explode
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Incase you haven't heard, you can harvest a handcuff key from a bic lighter. I tested this myself, and to my surprise, worked. The shaft that runs down the center is what becomes the key, it just takes a little filing and being gentle as you open the cuffs. It is st plastic after all.
Hey, if you go to most outdoors shops you can buy really big, thick ferrocerium rods (the flint in a lighter) and if you heat them up with say a blow torch and throw them its way cooler
Can you respond to me you have 666 likes on my screen
My friends and I use to look for those same cheap lighters while we roamed the neighborhoods to do exactly this. The lighter must be almost out of liquid butane and this was during summer days in Texas I assume the heat from the sun and the lack of pressure allowed some of the Butane to change to gas inside the lighter instead of only having liquid. When full of liquid it has to change states of matter before it can be lit by the spark ( the spark is not reliable ) also the escaping liquid will become very cold due rapid expansion from the pressure change. And cause water in the air to form in to a liquid, and maybe even solid ice. When I was older I bought 5 brand new lighters just to do this, Thinking it being full, would make the fireball bigger I was wrong.
Yeah, way too much liquid and not enough gas. Usually less than half. I always did it when they were about used up
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Lighters gotta be basically empty, as in running on fumes. The gas is too dense in droplet/condensation form for the spark to ignite it
Dear Rogues:
I'm not gonna say you're doing it wrong, because you basically have the technique down pat. However, I have done this myself and gotten a nice little fireball, so I have some tips:
1) Every lighter I managed to explode, with fire and all, was not new, some of the butane had been used prior to popping it.
2) When throwing it, I found that if you kept the lighter lit for a brief period of time beforehand (nothing ridiculous like getting it to start melting, just getting the lighter itself to heat up a bit, say 10-12 seconds max) it would more reliably give a nice fiery cloud, which I am guessing with my limited knowledge of thermodynamics was because the combination of the pre-existing heat and the spark of impact made it easier to reach the flash point of the butane cloud, and finally
3) When it worked, it was usually in a rougher surface than the concrete slab you used, ie the asphalt of a street or parking lot, maybe because...more friction on impact? Not sure on that one.
Anyway, much love regardless from Oklahoma, would be interested to see some more thorough testing with both the lighters and ferrocerium rods with the ideas I mentioned! :)
Great suggestions, also perhaps they can try different brands of lighters. Although, these flimsy, cheap, thin-plastic lighters seem like they'd fracture more easily than a Bic lighter or similar. :)
Since this is TH-cam and all... got video of it?
When I was in high school all we did was explode lighter. Thank you public schools, when i did it I used a Bic. Every other one was not as good or not working. Bic's spark better when hit and also, throw like a Man!
Hey from oklahoma
Considering they managed to put out an open flame I don't think 2 and 3 really matters. I think 1 is where it's at. In a school yard scenario you wouldn't go to the store and buy a new lighter and throw that to the ground, you would have an old or discarded lighter. My guess is that it probably works best with a spent lighter with just a tiny bit of fuel so the whole thing can aerosolize (I'm pretty sure that's a word). As you said, when it works it's a little fireball, and a whole lighters worth of fuel would be a pretty sizeable fireball.
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@@blackhole1013 Have you ever played cod???
@@DonnyPZ not just cod, every game involving flashbangs and stun grenades
We need a tee shirt that says
GO AWAY BADGUYS!
I'd buy that.
Yes we do my friend
I’d make one, if the folks at modern rouge would accept a fan made design
ILL TAKE YOUR HOLE STOCK
I'll buy it!!
Anyone else used to do this when they were kids?
@@poopman3576 do u know what boomer means xD
Nope can’t get my hands on lighters anymore tips ?
I still do
Got suspended once for it lol
I also used to take the cap off, then adjust the level then re-cap it... so if/when somebody stole it, that yoga flame would get'em!
"it's ill advised." Perfect for modern rogue
That's a channel tagline if I've ever seen one.
I'd be surprised if they got hurt, not the other way around .
@@dontbotherreading you kidding? Look at the outtakes. These two get hurt a lot
@@techfreak244 I mean like actually hurt to the point they can no longer do the show
@@dontbotherreading ah ok. I thought you meant like In general. These guys get cut and banged up like nobody's business lol
You actually need to snap off the silver thing until you find a small white wheel. Attached to that you'll find the flame adjuster still connected. Just lift it up and move it to the right so that you can adjust the wheel to allow more gas out. It will spit out fuel. Which you light with a second lighter. Then when you throw it there will be a strong flame to ignite the gas. Also helps to do it in a sheltered place with no wind.
I really appreciate how the ‘legend testers’ title is catching on
Is catching on fire
Does anyone else miss the “cause im a modern rogue!!” Intro ?
Not at all
Yes very much
I do
Yeah
Nope I miss the robot voice that told us what they were doing
This channel is just slowly getting out of control and it’s amazing to watch 😂
Yea two white guys really getting wild...yawn
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@@tseawell90 The fuck are you on this video for if you don't like it? Attention?
Brian: Somewhat witty, well thought out phrase
Jason: “SPOON!”
It's the catchphrase of "The Tick", a popular 90's underground comic...
I think the problem is that the lighters are full of butane. Everytime I have exploded a lighter by throwing it at the ground it was always a lighter that was out of fuel. That's the reason I would be smashing the lighter in the first place😂 I think the full lighter is releasing so much butane it doesn't have a chance to mix with air and ignite.
Yeah, most likely a stoichiometry problem.
If you have a full lighter you need to remove the Flint and the spring and wrap the spring around the Flint and then reinsert it and then take another lighter and get the Flint red-hot before you slam the lighter on the ground so that the Flint will give you the Sparks that you need to ignite the vaporize lighter fluid
Richard Wolfe thats too long if you need a flashbang
Um but for something to ignite it needs to have a certain air/fuel mixture. Its usually the flint hitting the ground causing the leaking butane to ignite
@@mftripz8445
Too stupid to comprehend?
5:19 This kinda sounds like the hit marker from Call of Duty
Obuttonrock 😂
Slap the back of your head lightly and think about the sound
5:21
You guys are forgetting the most powerful distraction technique.
"HEY LOOK OVER THERE!"
GO AWAY BAD GUYS
WHERE!?
No it’s “Don’t look now, but that guy just took his pants off.”
Underrated comment made my day 😂 😂
I can't see where you are pointing at :(
When I was younger and walking around, any time we found a discarded lighter around, we would do this. The thing we did different, was to light the lighter before we threw it down. It worked better if you had one of them with the valve you could tweak the flame up and down. We would do a method where you can bypass how far you can heighten the flame, then light and throw. Sure you can find info on how to do that, if you don't already know. Still, it wasn't a 100% guarantee it will ignite and the explosion isn't that large.
That look in Murphy's eyes when he says "lets try that!" is priceless
6:47 he laughed just like the joker in the new movie
😭
can't wait for Joker 2
it works better with nearly empty lighter when you the puff and the spark now there is to much butane not enough air
@Anonymous Anonymous not really, some can put out fire in an open environment. The butane is moving the oxygen away.
I meant smoke, not some
You guys are getting the puff of butane, but as me and my best friend used to do this all the time we have learned that the fireball is most common on a 10-40% full lighter. When they are like that I tend to get a fireball almost every time.
I think this channel and it's comment section is the definition of bad advice
Wafflez For Gamerz, bad but fun
no this is correct. You do that when your lighter does not light that well, so you just go bang. Who the fuck breaks new lighters for fun? "modern rogue" ofc.
“GO AWAY BADGUYS!” Is my favorite saying
I also loved when Jason just yelled "SPOON" when he threw his first lighter.
I think the problem is that when the lighter ruptures, the puff is pure butane, and not mixed with oxygen from the air. A cloud of pure butane could actually extinguish any flames initiated by an initial spark, or the candle as seen at 6:55. Also, I approve of the "Spoon!" war cry.
As a commenter, I feel like I'm getting mixed messages.
Also, my best guess as to what's happening is that the spark (on the off chance a spark forms) is being created and dying out just before the butane is released, combined with the fact that its too close to the cloud of butane, so that the butane meets the spark before the right ratio of oxygen can form for combustion.
I.E., bad spark timing combined with too rich of a fuel mixture at the spark's location.
While the spark is probably a very unreliable igniter, it's also an issue of the temperature of the gas being too low to ignite. Since the gas expands so quickly it cools down by a lot.
Which is how the cloud was able to extinguish the burning candle without catching fire.
@@T19R0N I figured that was simply because it rapidly displaced all the oxygen for the fire to sustain itself.
My friends and I use to look for those same cheap lighters while we roamed the neighborhoods to do exactly this. The lighter must be almost out of liquid butane and this was during summer days in Texas I assume the heat from the sun and the lack of pressure allowed some of the Butane to change to gas inside the lighter instead of only having liquid. When full of liquid it has to change states of matter before it can be lit by the spark ( the spark is not reliable ) also the escaping liquid will become very cold due to the pressure change. And cause water in the air to form in to a liquid, and maybe even solid ice. When I was older I bought 5 brand new lighters just to do this, Thinking it being full, would make the fireball bigger I was wrong. Fire does not need oxygen if it has another fuel source IE butane
@@c1h2r3i4s56987 Absolutely incorrect, outside of some very extreme conditions.
Fire (i.e., combustion) is a reaction where a given substance is rapidly exothermically oxidized (oxygen is the primary method of doing this, but more electronegative gases such as Fluorine and Chlorine will also do it).
Since the prevalence of gaseous Chlorine and Fluorine in the atmosphere is stupidly low, barring something like chemical warfare or an industrial accident, outside of those two conditions, every fire you will encounter will be oxidized by oxygen (hence the term). There's some other even more exotic ways of oxidizing a fuel, but they're even more uncommon than Cl and F.
Suffice it to say, oxygen is not a fuel, it is an oxidant. And if you find yourself encountering a fire being oxidized by something other than oxygen, you should either be running away EXTREMELY fast, or praying to whatever higher power you believe in (of course, that's good advice for a lot of oxygen fires as well).
As a kid when we were done lighting fireworks we would throw lighters at each others feet.
This is true, my mate was with his mate in a barn in summer chucked a lighter at the floor set fire to the barn and cause 40,000 quid in damages and went off to juvie
That’s just the spark in a barn. The cloud probably won’t ignite on its own.
What's in my drink? Your mate lied. The apart or lighter is not enough to ignite into a burning flame.
I used to do this when I was a kid. Whenever i found a lighter on the floor
@tactyc weak, I lit a barn on fire
So when I did it as a kid I did it with empty lighters I found on the street that people threw out. Never had a ball of fire but I did get a nice loud bang...not a poof.
If you didnt know this you had a boring childhood imo.
my childhood consisted of halo, gears of war, and gta with strangers on the internet
bruhh i used to take out the firestone bunch em up together with some matches and throw it onto our opposing villages houses lol
I know right 😂
I use the lighter for better things
I preferred to keep my lighters intact so that I could actually light shit on fire like god intended
My friend did it once, but it was with an empty lighter
Clayton Wolfgang elementary school shit
I think that a full lighter has too much gas inside, so when it expands it pushes the oxygen away so it can't burn. I also did it with a almost empty lighter and dropping it from a 3rd floor.
**Anything explodes**
People... **flashbang???**
The butane in the lighter is compressed, so when the plastic cracks and the butane escapes, it rapidly expands. That rapid expansion causes the gas to cool down a lot, and probably makes it too cold to ignite!
Not a distraction but a cool trick that works:
Ignite the lighter and tape down the button so it stays lighted.
Place it on the ground and hit it with a golf club. The flame at the source will burn the butan.
Brian: *Tells dangerous story*
Jason: LET'S DO IT!
Why am I not suprised? 😂 We'd definitely have to reset the injury counter with that one.
Found a lighter on a beach once that had a bunch of barnacles on it. Threw it on the ground and it had a little fiery explosion, but didn't break apart. I gave it another couple hits and it didn't explode but it could do a pretty angry spark.
Based on that accidental encounter, I'm going to say it's the same problem you faced with the potato gun - the fuel air mixture. A lot of commenters have said that it's an issue with the amount of fuel coming out, claiming it worked better with half-empty lighters.
Honestly surprised this video isn’t just plastered with “don’t try this at home” labels
Apparently according to the comment section plenty of people have already tried it at home, so too late to start throwing disclaimers at this point.
Rouges do not listen to "Don't try this at home!" So they don't bother lol
*Good Vibes* they are hoping some common sense is used on our end
"Don't try this at home" is just a given any time you're on the Modern Rogue channel.
*Good Vibes* because we end up tryin it at home
Upon breaking the vaporized butane is above the Upper Explosive Limit for a brief moment in the immediate area, meaning there is not enough available oxygen to intiate a reaction with the ignition source.
"1 or 5?"
"One One Jesus"
Jesus I've really been enjoying this channel, since I've discovered it a month ago!
Literally how us ill advised British teenagers spend our time. This video
Does this mean they're doing Smileys next?
lol i was just about to comment this we always find random lighters off the streets and bomb them
I remember doing this as a kid in Australia around 15 years ago and while it wasn't all the time we definitely got fiery explosions. I tried it a few years later, and I have a sneaking suspicious that maybe some sort of safety lighter was introduced that made this harder to do, because I could never replicate it either. We also used to use the lighters first a little bit, cause fire is fun, and a few other comments have mentioned doing this too. In fact, I distinctly recall us doing this multiple times with lighters we'd find in the street, which we'd just pick up and huck at the ground to see what happens.
Grind up the flint very carefully.
You get better results than just lighting flint on fire, but its a powder rather than a burning red solid so it ignites instantly like gunpowder and burns fairly brightly compared to gunpowder.
I could definitely leave my Anger management Class like this 4:00
Second day of anger management 4:43
Last day of anger management 5:26
Epic Video! Great meeting you guys at DefCon this year :)
Awesome seeing you, too!
Somebody found a lighter at our school and threw in the grass and there was a bit of smoke and fire 🔥 but luckily it was wet grass.
"in the early days of scam school"
i knew he looked and sounded familiar, i just didn't know from where
He's also a fairly successful magician. You might have seen him on Letterman or Fool Us.
@@CrownRock1 scamschool shows many known magicians so...yea
†JΔE † he runs scan school
Brandon Doucette no shit
This is one of those things that everyone I grew up with swore was real, but no one ever actually saw happen.
*LET'S DO THAT!*
This is why I love Jason.
Your supposed to covertly place it in the campfire when your drunk friends are unable to identify shenanigans
Jason smashing that rock still makes me hurt laughing.
If you attach the ferro rod and spring to the outside you’ll have tons of sparks to ignite the gas. It’s a combination of what you did plus the ferro rod sparks that can work reliably
I can't believe you two didn't do this as kids. I did it a lot, after we ran out of firecrackers.
xkcd.com/1053/
The Modern Rogue Didn’t see why you linked this comic until about the 4th time reading it over
The Modern Rogue I was hoping it was that xkcd
Idk what kind of lighters you’re using but I’ve thrown plenty at the grown and it made a fireball
Wait, I can get you to test things for an hour in the dark by just confidently telling you it? Brian, duh, you can make a really simple flashbang by posting me a dollar.
first, myth busters
now, legend testers
Its just the cloud of butane ppl talk about but every now and then(it doesnt happen often at all) it will light the butane
if its either hot out or you light the lighter for a few seconds before hand and the lighter is under half full you can get it to make a fireball every time.
This is a thing that I did when I was a kid, but I also remember that we made sort of a cannon out of carbid, a PVC pipe, a lighter/candle, water and something like a piece of wood with a LOT of hot glue.
Step 1:Drill a whole on the lower side of the PVC
Step2:Take a piece of wood and jam it as much as possible in the bottom of the PVC with a hammer and put hot glue everywhere.
Step 3:Take the carbid, put it in the chamber of you make-shift cannon put water(preferably hot water) in with the chamber of the cannon
Step 4: Take the cannon put it on its side with the hole facing you, resting on like a 5 foot log or some boxes
Step 5: Wait 5 seconds and put the lighter like 1 cm from the whole, thats when you hear BOOM
Repeat if you want to continue with shooting, REMEMBER if black smoke is coming out of the pipe and when you try to fire it a big flame comes up that means that you have to reset the cannon and try again, the reason for that is when the water hits the carbid it can come up to such a temperature that it starts to burn, you can use the same piece of carbid like 5 times, but remember to put water in every 2 shots.
If you see this comment then please make a video about it:)
"Don't be like Brian's dad, he's awesome, also bald." - Jason Murphy
Do these guys remind anyone else of the Mythbusters or just me. Not complaining either, great channel and content
Paris 568 mmmmmm
I miss the "Im a modern rogueeeee" intro
I remember doing this when I was like 8 years old. We lived at a rough neighborhood with bunch broken lighters just laying in the dirt and on the street. We just though it made a really loud bang and looked cool, we never got full on fireball explosions either.
When I was about 7 years old I literally threw every lighter with a bit of gas to the ground to see if it would explode.
Only works with those crappy disposable lighters. Light the lighter, hold it lit for a bit, throw while lit. Essentially, you do not let off on the flame until the moment it would leave your hand. I've done this a bunch of times. Not 100% success rate of course, but pretty often.
Note: the lighters I had thrown to explode were rigged as in. if you take the metal cover off the lighter. you can mess with the flame adjustment and ramp up how big the flame is, then replace metal cover. Light it and throw all the same.
Try using the disposable bic lighters I actually did this when I was a kid
I've done it once by accident. It was a bic lighter
For reliable fireball effect take the flint and spring out. Wrap the flint in the spring and attach the spring to the lighter. Then heat the flint until it glows and then throw the lighter.
"This is shrapnel" continues to leave mask up
“SPOOON!” Lol awesome!
If you pull the spring and flint out. then stretch the spring and wrap one end around the flint to hold it. Then get the flint red hot and through it on a hard surface. You'll get a bang. The spring holds it for you, you hold the spring.
I heard that they could explode if you use them as a fist packer in a street fight.
The way Brian describes a dangerous situation, "there was a get and a *woosh*" and Murphy with the "Let's do that one"
Um this ignites 100% of the time if you spike it onto a sparkler or road flare or other aggressive, self-oxifizating flame source.
Ah yes the good ol' light a flare place it on the ground then spike a lighter onto it for a brief fireball kind of distraction
I just realized that whenever they say, “ go away bad guys” they’re using a method that allows them to go away
how many gas stations did they raid for those lighters
You can buy packs
Try taping the first flash bang (flint + spring) to another lighter. This way the flash bang will spark as the lighter explodes resulting in a fireball.
still looking forward to the big ferrocerium rods version
Tape a flint wrapped in a spring to it, light the flint, then throw it. The spark would probably ignite the butane
The smoke is the explosion it doesnt actually *explode*
I’ve done this in my garage. Used a burning rag as a pilot light. I say use a mousetrap trip wire with an electric match or a strike anywhere match rigged up to strike as a pilot light and have the bar of the trap break the lighter.
The one with glasess laughs like the Joaquín jocker
Mr. Mister dead ass 😂 😂 🤣
Everytime when we used this method in my area, we also used rubber bands. So, you start the lighter, while lever for gas is pressed and it burns, rubber band is put over it (another part of rubber band goes over bottom of lighter) and then you throw it so it lands on bottom part. It ignites immediately with nice large fireball. Ratio of success with this kind of method is 4/5.
Next up: attach a fuse, then throw. totally not ill advised
The puff is a BLEVE, ( boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion) they tend to put out sparks/fires depends on the amount of liquid and the explosion overpressure.
Yeah the lighters should be almost empty.
I've done this and sounded like a gunshot.
Try taking out the flint and spring carefully. Wrap the spring around the flint and then wrap that to the lighter securely. Heat up the flint till it is red hot, then toss it hard. Discard the metal cover.
You should try to use zippo flints and do a zippo tricks episode
You guys should try this again, but empty the lighters to about 20% of their capacity (or even less).
Since you're throwing these full, the expanding butane pushes air (and thus, oxygen) away, and you will not get it to light up.
Also, try removing the metalic shield, it helps with getting a spark more consistently.
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I used to throw lighters all the time as a kid. It was fun. I once tied a dozen of them with duct tape and made a trail of gasoline to light like a fuse. The blast was pretty loud, made a mess and made a massive fire ball. Also the fire department was called from a neighbor and I got in a lot of trouble.
Who hasn’t done this . Living in Brooklyn be like
Despite the reused concept I still love your guys videos. Will always be a fan from the beginning.
Another fun thing to do with electrical lighters is to get the zap part out that creates the spark and shock people with it
I've had a lighter explode throwing it down one time. I tried it again dozens of times, but never got it to happen after that one time. It was pretty cool when it happened though.
Also as a Lock Picking Lawyer fan I can fully admit we can be very obnoxious at times. He can make stuff look too easy sometimes because his videos are short and concise, but he obviously does a ton of prep work so that he doesn't have failures on camera. The point of watching Modern Rogue is to experiance those failures though.
On the same note you guys should do a collab on lock picking with one of the bigger locksmith TH-cams. It is actually a really fun and fulfilling hobby and it is a great skill if the shit ever hits the fan.
couple of reasons it didnt go off. theres just to much gas. if you noticed when you threw the last one and it surrounded the candle it snuffed it out instead of igniting, its because all that rapid expansion of gas forced the oxygen needed for combustion away. not to mention its extremely cold when it instantly transforms from a liquid to a gaseous state. its only able to stay a liquid because its under pressure, about 2 atmospheres which causes it to remain a liquid at room temperature.
You have to remember as the butane escapes and turns from liquid to gas it sucks in heat energy making it's surroundings very cold. Fire needs heat to happen so a cold environment prevents ignition and could even put out your candle.
I've found that my best results for a considerable BANG, was using old lighters with about 1/4 to 1/8 butane left in it and leaving it in direct sunlight for a few hours to heat up. 85% of the time it yeilds an M-80 size bang
I have heard of welders being killed by exploding lighters. Welding instructor at my college told us we would be permanently kicked out of his class if we were caught with a butane lighter in his shop
Yall had meh childhood if it's your first time throwing lighters
A friend in 2nd grade grabbed a near empty lighter.
Threw it onto a concrete road and it created a loud explosion.
I think the lighters should be pretty much empty for it to explode
When I was a kid we would find lighters in the alley and explode them like this lmao
i used to work in an aluminum extrusion mill. we would place a near empty disposable lighter on the hot metal. ball of flame was enjoyed by all.