Really hoping you see this to talk about it, but the one thing that’s not factored on your list is “INTIMIDATING” people do respond differently if you pull out a machete over a handgun and that difference can save your life
funny thing is, contrary to what people may think, bear spray has lower concentration of 'pepery stuff' than human self-defense peper spray. It's more quantity, but weaker.
I second your suggestion Houston. Bear spray. I'm also a firm believer that if you carry something (Tazer, pepper spray, baton, brass knuckles) you need to know what it feels like yourself.
@@Minsang1st “Weaker”?! Please define. Less peppers does not mean less effective peppers. And the sheer volume deployed by a bear spray vs the little human canister has to deploy a significant amount.
Yeah, not joking either. Imagine being the guy trying to attack a bunch of gym buddies. There's a reason people who do violence for a living travel in groups, soldiers, cops, gangsters, all the same in this circumstance. Also, being liked in general leads to be attached less, but that's beside the point.
The part where Seth was banking on Houston Jones not answering the FaceTime call, and Icy Mike's childlike glee when he did, is one of the best things I've ever seen on TH-cam. It was almost wholesome, until the pepper spray was deployed, haha.
I used to work at a cutlery store, and any time people would come in asking about knives for self defense, we always (ALWAYS) pushed them to get a high power flashlight (preferably with a strobe effect) for self defense. Even got a few stories of people who used flashlights to great effect in self defense situations. Glad to see it come on top.
@@devoonbmx603 That's true. I think flashlights can be very effective in non-lethal self-defense scenarios, but I'd never want to have only a flashlight in a lethal situation, especially if the attacker is significantly bigger than me...
I hope none of them were stupid enough to take your advice. If a situation is bad enough that guns and knives are appropriate your blinky light won't do a damned thing.
Honestly you took the pepper spray really well. In a high stress situation you'd have been hampered but not completely down. That's a lot more than most people could say
Another understated benefit of a flashlight is that it makes people super uncomfortable to know they are seen when they can't see. There's some kind of psycho-social dynamic about one way observation that makes people feel extra vulnerable. Same with one way mirrors, cameras, tinted windows.
In urban areas they don't care. Been mugged broad daylight no one intervened. Been jumped and my has rocked by at least a few guys once again in a crowded area during the day at a festival, again no one intervened. So they wouldn't give tuppence to a flashlight.
I love that you guys do grappling training with weapons, I have known way too many people in my life that just carry a little pocketknife around for serious self-defense. And I try to tell them that that is not how a real fight is going to playout. thanks for the amazing content.
I know people who genuinely know how to use knives and that shit is hella scary. Some guy slicing away at you with a karambit while also striking and deflecting with the other hand is pretty terrifying.
In all likelihood a knife is terrible for self defense. They cause a lot of damage sure, but it takes time for the damage to actually slow the attacker down enough to save you. People can be stabbed dozens of times before they’re incapacitated
@@benbratko9904 no not really, slashes can cut alot deeper than most people imagine, after a few slashes on your arms, they're pretty much useless. But most people either dont have the right knife or aren't trained on how to properly use it.
How were steel-toe shoes missed? Ability To Carry. - You're wearing them. Lethality. It's up to you. Legality. Perfectly legal. Ability to Draw. Once again, you're wearing them. Want a weapon that's ready and deadly, even when you're not? Steel-toe shoes are it. Get two pair, one for training and one for going out on the town. Take the trainers out in the backyard and kick the stuffings out of cardboard boxes etc. Do this at least twice weekly. Then wear the nice ones out on the town and if the bad time comes you will know what to do because you are already doing it. Muscle memory can be a beautiful thing.
@@johnogrady2418 unless you can grapple, are a taekwondo black belt(LOL) or there shins are made of glass it's a pretty bad self defense method(i wear steel toed boots and im size 11). You're much better off taking that time and putting it into BJJ and Muay Thai(pepper spray would also help).
@@johnogrady2418 I accidentally sprayed it in a room I was in and for me it was brutal. Hurt like hell to see and to breath, even when I quickly left the room to the outside. Lasted about 20-30 minutes, and it took a few seconds (3-10) to really kick-in. That's my only issue with it... the time it takes to really affect the attacker. But some attackers will turn away for a few seconds, unknowingly giving it time, and that's good. Other experienced attackers might keep rushing, which could obviously be a problem. Then there's those it doesn't affect very much. So, I definitely always carry pepper spray, but also I carry other weapons in case I need it.
I am a gun guy, however, I understand it should be the absolute last thing I should ever rely upon, knowing how to fight without one or while being grappled is just as important as knowing how to draw and shoot under ideal circumstances
In before watching the video ... 1. Situational Awareness. 2. Feet (Escape) 3. Pepper Spray. 4. Gun. Side note. I have used Pepper Spray defensively several times in my life and have watched countless video of people deploying it in defense, or in testing. I have NEVER seen anyone maintain as well as Seth did. Impressive.
I have no sensitivity to capsaicin. I have been directly pepper sprayed by accident when an inmate decided to finally get down as it was being sprayed at him. I caught a face full of industrial pepper spray and had no reaction. When we resumed pill line, one of the inmates said "nurse (last name withheld), I would never want to screw with you. You're a badass. The way you handled that pepper spray." My response was simple. I said "you shouldn't screw with anyone, especially any staff." Anyway... Pepper spray is effective in a lot of people, but keep in mind not everybody. There's people like me who have no sensitivity to capsaicin, and there's people who have trained to fight through it. Seth's response actually looked about like the latter group. I'm guessing it's because he's actually fought through pain stimulus enough before, that it translated a bit.
@@Pharto_Stinkus My point was that you are acting like some pepper spray expert, but Seth's response was the most collected you've seen. I have seen plenty of people stay collected when getting sprayed, usually those trained to fight through it. I talked about my personal experience, so you can understand that some people are actually immune to it.
100% support the flashlight as best choice. Speaking of improvised weapons, you should do a whole video on the rolled up glossy magazine. I train with it all the time. Its excellent.
dude I've genuinely been saying for ages a superhero like batman should have blinding lights built in to his cowl, I mean it wouldn't effect him other than increasing visibility but like your video shows, its effective at stopping people from seeing and, it' wouldn't be easy fighting what you can't see.
Great video! Thanks for sharing this. I think pepper spray effectiveness is relative to how much and how quickly it gets into and interferes with the eyes, the nasal cavity, and the mouth. In other words, if the defender gets unlucky and sprays the assailant who managed to close their eyes and not breathe, they can last longer than someone who happened to get a direct hit with their eyes open and happened to be inhaling at the time. As for the flashlight, I absolutely agree with flash, bash, dash. The problem is I think some people who carry flashlights do not understand this, and leave it on, thinking that it's just the brightness of the light, and not the residual spotting afterwards that ends up providing the blinding effect. If a light is left on long enough, it can eventually become a point of reference for a bad guy to roughly shoot in that direction, for example. Perhaps I would rank the list a bit differently, but that would be minor detail. I think what is more important is to carry several of these items, and learning to use these tools in conjunction. I think you guys have mentioned this in other videos as well, but for example, the flashlight can be used in conjunction with a gun, but it is also entirely possible to use the flashlight in conjunction with the pepper spray. Flash, spray, and dash is perfectly viable as well. To me, and up to a point anyway, there is no reason to argue which tools are better than the other. Like debating whether the hammer is better than the saw, or if the saw is better than the pliers, or if the pliers are better than hammers. In the end, what is truly important is to have the right tools you need to solve the problem, available at a time when you need it the most.
I was not expecting flashlight but it actually makes great sense, especially some rly powerful ones, I've had a powerful one flashed at me once and it dazes you pretty well.
I recently learned the concept of not using the word "best" as an adjective anymore because it forces you to think more about why exactly you feel something is good. Instead of saying "guns are the best self defence weapons", one could say, "guns are good weapons for x y z..."
That Mace Pepper gun has a picatinny rail on the top, and I actually got a picatinny flashlight mount for mine, so that I can combine the pepper spray and flashlight into a single carryable item.
I really like that you learn something for your newer videos, like reading a book and taking skillshare courses. Seth next year will be even more interesting.
@@anonymoose2474 I mean. I’d assume any situation where you could legally pull out a gun and shoot someone in self defense you could probably pull out a ninja star instead. I was also joking
I wish they were much more powerful, though. Like super blinding even in bright noon daylight. In the dark it's no problem, of course. For that (daylight use) it would have to be AT LEAST around 10,000 lumens (just guessing from my own flashlights), but those all seem to be larger flashlights. Now, a strobe is a different story, potentially handling those high lumens in a smaller package. I just haven't found one that strobes that bright and is pocket-size. Any suggestions?
The less ineffective weapons were used in situations where they are obviously less effective. Guns are meant to be used at a distance, not in the fight already. Pepper spray is a deterrant so the user can run away from the attacker, or prevent the attacker from attacking in the first place. The point about the knife is valid but then you shouldn't be using a knife for self defense unless you've trained in how to use it.
Of course, but the point was to showcase the potential weaknesses of each. Guns are useless if you're already in a grapple, and they wanted to show that here. Pepper spray should be used as a deterrent, and doesn't always work as an immediate fight stopper, etc. But that doesn't mean they aren't effective in their element (see: countless Active Self Protection videos), just that you need to be aware of those shortcomings if you're going to carry them.
Not true any well train person in any of the weapons in the video can show proper usability far or up close for instance firearms are very effective up close when trained in up close training making at far not only still effective but might result in not even being used in certain situations depending on how you read the attacker . Best weapon in a fight is the person brain it results in adaptability and effective measures to achieve your goal , not get killed
@@sadflute8639 My point was that the weapons shown as 'less effective' were only shown in situations where they would be less effective. The amount of training a person has with something shouldn't be the only factor in determining the effectiveness of a self-defense weapon. It doesn't matter how good you can fight with a knife, the knife is pointless unless you are up close. If you are carrying a gun for self defense, it won't matter if your attacker has jumped you from behind and you can't draw the weapon. Even if you are trained in using a firearm in close proximity to your target, it is still wrong to use it in that way due to the increased chance of you being shot, or a poorly aimed shot hitting a bystander.
@@jasonneil4121 thats the point of the video genius, if someone wants to attack you they usually get closer they dont start the fight 10m away from you
I was kinda doubting the flashlight. But then Mike shined it into the camera. I'm in a lit room and I physically recoiled from the flash. That would be very effective indeed.
Great test! I just have one complain: The person with a gun has to draw it, but the person with the pepper spray would have it already in hands and be aiming with it? If you have to draw your gun, you have to draw that spray as well, that was inconsistent. By having to draw both, the spray falls down the list, for sure. If you feel in danger and you are able to draw and aim a pepper spray, you would be able to draw and aim a handgun.
The point is that you shouldn't draw the gun unless someone is threatening you with lethal force. Pepper spray, on the other hand, can be drawn before you feel your life is in danger.
Actually you got that wrong. He said with pepper spray you might ALREADY have it drawn (in your hand already), but not yet aimed. So you only have to aim if you already have it in your hand, and they're small enough to keep in your hand without attracting too much attention. With a gun you have to draw AND aim. You can carry a gun in your hand to avoid that problem, but I wouldn't do that.
I think situational awareness can give you more time for drawing a weapon. If you already have your hand on it, you can draw it much faster. Much like practicing breaking a hold, if you are intercepting the move before he has his arm around your throat, it works better.
The issue here is that for the gun and the knife you started the test having the assaillant already wrestling you... You won't be able to use pepper spray or a torch in the exact situation you tested with gun and knife...
I think the point was you can take out and walk around with peppery spray or flashylight in your hand if you're cautious of something walking your dog or something but you might have to draw the gun or knife at later stages of the scenario
@@johnsteves9158again, he said in the video that the best part of the pepper spray is you can use it in the widest array of circumstances, including probably those countries you were talking about, that’s why it gets a higher rating. If I’m feeling threatened the last thing I need is to be thinking about legalities and things like that, pepper spray solves that. That’s why it’s going to be my first self defense weapon but eventually I will get a gun for myself
One of my sifu's taught me " the best weapon for self defence is a sense of humour " finding this impossible to counter without a sense of humour, I also teach this valuable lesson . ✊🙏
Humor can be a great deescalation tool, but a lot of violent criminals who are likely to want to harm you may take any attempt at humor personally and it might even make them more angry. Like anything, it is situational.
@@connorperrett9559 also when someone has attacked me it has been without warning and from behind or beside me as they are passing on a number of occasions. People don’t want to give you the chance to react if they are serious about hurting you.
Yep, thats the best advice tbh If you carry a weapon it should be the very last, final, ultimate option. Best way to stay safe during an altercation is to end the conflict before it starts.
We have to get sprayed in the navy for the srf courses. It sucks getting sprayed but you can absolutely still fight after being sprayed without a lot of difficulty (as you saw). It just really sucks. That’s actually the whole point of the course. To show you that you can fight if you’ve been sprayed (when you spray someone, you’ll probably catch some too) and that other people can fight after being sprayed. Having been sprayed 3 times now, it’s definitely a good deterrent to someone who isn’t committed, but as you’ve shown the fight isn’t likely to stop just with the spray if they are committed.
STICK! as per shadiversity. 1 it's not concealed so your possible attacker knows you are armed and is less likely to target you in the first place, 2 it's already in your hand so very little to no draw time, 3 you can take it (almost) anywhere, 4 it looks cool.
I really hope you are being sarcastic. 1. Attacker knows you are armed and getting your head smacked from ambush is worse than doing the gimme-ya-wallet-routine 2. You can't do anything while holding it so you're actually more limited 3. You are not carrying that bludgeon anywhere without getting lots of weird looks 4. Looks stupid
My grandpa was a police officer and he says that you rarely have to use a weapon. Just the presence of a weapon scares people enough they decide to find an easier target.
It scares some people enough to do that, but a policeman's weapon is accompanied by the possibility for backup and the fact that cop killers will be punished even more severely than the average murder. Some criminals might see that you're a civilian openly carrying a weapon and try to take it off of you. Active Self Protection has several videos on his channel of open carriers being straight up executed or having their weapons taken off of their hips by criminals. If you open carry you need to be absolutely certain your situational awareness is on point and you cannot be comfortable with anyone being close to you from behind, even if you have a retention holster. You also have to worry about how other civilians might view you. People are used to cops having handguns on their hips, but Leftists who see a lawful citizen open carrying are quite likely to overreact. There have been open carriers who have been in total compliance with the law who have been stopped by police or even arrested because a gun grabber sees them carrying and calls the cops or makes a scene.
@@connorperrett9559 True. But, you do have the 2A for a reason so reactions from civilians are just fearful and dumb. I feel safe whenever I see someone packing. However, concealed is safer for "they won't go if they don't know."
@@connorperrett9559 why arrest them and not the ones making a false report which still is a crime I think, even in these lawless days! That's just unlawful and redundance!
Bro talking facts about knives. All these weapons experts and knife gurus show off cool knife moves but the reality is that it takes a mighty hack or stab to an area of importance to actually impact a fight. Respect to Mike he knows his stuff.
Mike's excitement at the pepper spray... Omg, it's like a kid on Christmas 🤣 I've never been pepper sprayed but I have grown super hot peppers (ghost peppers and brain strains)... Once I got used to the heat I started prepping with less protective gear and... I mean, I've got to take my contacts out sometime. That was a terrible twenty minutes 🤣🤣
The point about if your brain has a similar enough something in its "bank" it will apply it. This is one of the things my instructor used to say, if you want to learn old style weapons to fight in the modern world, and not carry a weapon learn the 3 basic sticks, short baton, half length, and full length staff. At that point you have the pathways for anything straight and hard enough to hit people with.
100% agreed. At this point, though, I don't think either of these guys will ever seriously entertain a cane (or equivalent) until they are injured, or aged, to the point they are FORCED to use one. Only then will the utility be made clear. I'll be looking for the cane video sometime around the year 2050. Lol
I also like a kubaton. It causes pain and less likely to cause serious bodily injury to the attacker. It is like the knife or blaster in deploying it. I have made sheaths for them with the UltiClip.
Pepper sprays can vary in their potency. Make sure you get the strongest available (I think it’s 1.4% capsaicinoids). I keep it staged in my hand whenever I’m in sketchy places (like a Walmart parking lot 😄). I’m right handed and use a traditional stance, using my left hand to block and create distance and spray with my right, spray, then retract to avoid it being taken away…. But, I’ve never used it and hope I never have to. Kinda like wearing a seatbelt. I like the flashlight idea too. Something to think about!
You might want to switch hands. Use your primary hand for defense as it is stronger. You don't need the strength to hold onto the spray, and if they are able to close and "take it away," you'll need that strength and capability available in a free hand.
Idk depending on your stance a left hand might be better foe deflecting and keeping distance and right better for pepper spray accuracy. I will admit that ive never trained with pepper spray so i don't really know.
You really did handled that pepper spray well, it's funny that you relied on Houston Jones for it! Also I didn't realize the flashlight was such a good weapon! Thanx for the tip!
I can assess for sure that a flashlight will definitely work depending on how bright and Powerful the flashlight itself is like one of those self-defense flashlights that have the blinking those type of Lights like LED or super bright honestly it could be just getting dark or just starting to about to get dark or I can even still be fairly light out and you hit me with it and my eyes will shut because I have sensitive eyes lots of other people do as well so the brighter the better especially if it's one of those blinking things but if you keep it straight shining through that will also help your case as far as wanting to keep up a total dangerous person away from you if it looks like they're trying or if you know for sure they're wanting to try to do you harm in any kind of fashion
I'd say for the pepper spray, depending on the spread and nozzle design this is really likely to be the scenario irl in a lot of cases where someone is charging in on you. Glad to see everyone is getting onboard with flashlights these days to.
Reasons I love the *Staff* for self-defense: 1) If you need a staff, you can probably find one. A broom, a pool cue, a rake, a long stick - Staffs are everywhere. 2) A staff can keep distance from your opponent. Keep-away makes for great defense. 3) It's a non-lethal weapon that can hurt someone a lot, without doing serious damage (in trained hands).
I live in Georgia so the thing is that it's legal to open Terry and once you get proficient withdrawing you're not going to have a problem drawing before the Falcon step
If the gun is still in my pocket/holster and the grappling has begun I probably would not even think about the gun... Wrong time to try and pull it out.
Compact handguns are still the best self-defence tool to protect yourself and other people, since it’s not like every fight is a grapple. That said, videos like this are needed due to the legal and social stigma around guns.
So many people carry knives and don’t realize there’s a good chance that even if you do happen to land a good cut on your attacker they may just keep going and not notice. It’s just not that disabling.
I think the best one is whichever requires less time to use: Flashlight and the Self Defense Umbrella, which i can already hold in my hands and is useful for other occasions.
Best thing for self defense? Good situational awareness, properly fitting running shoes, and a decent cardio regimen. Having to get into a fight means you’ve already lost. If it’s unavoidable/completely by surprise? Something that can’t be pried out of your hand without a lot of work, a secondary you can get to just as easily, and cardio again for when you get the chance.
The guy in the first one knew that he was supposed to be getting a knife. Which means he knew that person had a knife if it were to break out. That person isn't just going to announce it. They would pull it out when another person can't see it and use it so that wasn't realistic.
I daily every day carry for last 30 plus years a handgun, fixed blade knife, pepper spray, and tactical flashlight at a regular job with regular clothes so the answer is all of them as they all have specic uses and not one be all end all and best combo is all
I trained in pistol combat and received highest classification with Thai Armed Force Security Center. I received CCW concealed carry permit and carried SigSauer P225for three years, before I changed to carry knife. that lasted less than a year. Both were too much of a hassle to carry. I now rely solely on muaythai, and running. When you do muaythai, you run and skip rope as well. Brass knuckle, I have a couple. They now lay collecting dust. BTW I used to train muaythai at Fairtexfor >17 years, before changing camp because of Covid 19
I really enjoyed this video. I watched his other video comparing the differences between Japanese weapons and his choice of weapons. Overall, I agree. Flashlight definitely is a good tool. Some guns have it attached. Be safe y’all!
Heavy duty/tactical flashlight, easily. Turn it on right in someone's face, blind them. Strong built, so it can be used as a blunt weapon. Definitely legal, I mean, it's a flashlight. Also, it gives options, with that first flash, you blind them, giving you time to run to safety, instead of risking a fight. Seriously, the flashlight is an insanely good self defense weapon. If you think I'm wrong, get a friend, and have them turn a flashlight on right in your face, see how long your blinded/stunned for. Solar flare!
I will use everything aa a weapon. Even that chair can be highly effective if used right. I mean a chair to the throat could be very effective. However something so large can be blocked and grabbed. The reason i like the flashlight the most is for the blinding effect. Sets up every other possible even better. Self defense means a ton of things. Legally it can mean alot too. Best self defense is the one you make most available. I was a security guard and unarmed. However I know that in most states that drawing a firearm can mean two things. "I feel threatened and you need to back off or I have to use it." Or "you are about to get shot." If that intention is not said out loud it's more clear the reason.
Seth, if you really decide to learn Japanese please let me know. Studied Japanese on and off for like 7 years until finally discovering immersion learning. I've tried EVERYTHING, and this is the only thing that was sustainable, enjoyable, and worked. But immersion learning can be confusing at first, id be happy to help you through it. Hit me up anytime. Keep up the great content. Cheers
I've seen quite a few stabbing videos and I dont think I've ever seen someone just stop after the first stab, even the people who get stabbed in the heart end up dieing somewhere down the road, I've seen people stabbed in the neck, blood spurting everywhere and they're still fighting hard until they gradually weaken, I'd never advise a knife as a self defence weapon, it's the kind of weapon you use if you wanna make a big mess, people dont realise how messy and brutal knife attacks are
Ive seen people drop after one stab but they usually weren't aware they were about to get stabbed, most videos ive seen of someone getting shot usually ends with the guy dropping after the first shot.
Wow an old Navy SEAL gave me a Thyristor control photoflash unit he had carried in Vietnam. When I say old Navy SEAL the man has long since passed away and he was in SEAL class 1,2 or 3. He was doing underwater hydrological studies of the Cuban coastline and he was in Vietnam in 1964 or 1965. When that Xenon bulb pops off the person who got flashed is blinded for 20 seconds. We didn't have white Cree LEDs or Krypton bulbs back in the 1960s, but we did have photo flash units.
Take some boxing classes. Take some wrestling and/or bjj classes. A month of each will put you head n shoulders above most people on the street. Take some pistol classes. Get a permit. Carry offhand light. And work on your situational awareness. I carry pepper spray mostly for dogs. But its nice to have options.
I agree with the flashlight thinking but it’s never that dark outside or even my house in the middle of the night. So unless you’re in the mountains of Montana during a new moon, at which point you’re being attacked by either a 500lb grizzly bear or a 9ft sasquatch the flashlight would never blind someone enough to where the can’t see you. even my Nitecore E4K wouldn’t be bright enough
This video rocks. 🤘 Flashlight is also my top choice for self protection. Would like to see you incorporating your martial arts skills using a flashlight.
I love that this is on your channel instead of Mike's for a change, but of course he's gotta be involved if you're talking self defense nonsense and diy weapons tests lmao Love both you guys and your channels!
I think another more important category was missed. Escalation of threat. Which weapon is more likely to have an aggressor back down, and to that point what weapon would neutralize a threat quicker. I would argue a gun all the way is the best weapon for this, followed by a knife, then tazer, then pepper spray.
Meh, a trained fighter against someone that has a gun but no training. Oh and the person with the gun has bad situational awareness by getting into a spot with an attacker that can grab them. But hey I guess this will sell their training…
@@lubrew5862 well that was kinda the point, I'd reccomend checking out icy mikes channel(hard2hurt) if you haven't already, the link should be in the description
Kimber makes a pepperspray gun that’s made like a small pistol and fits in a kydex inside-the-waistband holster. It’s easier to carry and deploy than something buried in the bottom of a purse or your pocket with your keys attached. That’s what I use…..along with a 9mm pistol.
Vivo en Chile y he sido víctima de 3 asaltos, en el último estuve preparado con gas pimienta y fue sumamente efectivo y fácil de usar, además, el delincuente justo logró cubrirse con algo que tenía al frente, no obstante el mecanismo de acción de mi gas pimienta era en "Spray" y no en chorro, por tanto el asalante se inhabilitó casi instantáneamente al momento de defenderme, debo decir que me siento mucho más seguro con el gas pimienta que cualquier otra arma de defensa personal de contacto.
There is prepared weapons deployments and unprepared weapons deployment and then there is your training. My advise is to focus on a weapon of lethality, like a pocket knife, or gun, and then a shape of common availability such as a stick or rock. If you really want to get into it. Go into sim training. Go to a building or environment and go have hand to hand combat with everything you expect to have around. For example, a classroom, chairs, calculator's, backpacks full of books, etc.
Absolutely best weapon of self defense is to AVOID the whole situation where you may need a weapon. Second is your wits that allows you to avoid the situation worsening up to a fight. Third is your feets, you may run away from most situations.
I'm a bit surprised that they didn't discuss the weapons in the thumbnail... Brass knuckles are in an odd spot. They frigging hurt to use seriously and they are neither particularly less-lethal nor do they have crazy stopping power. In a serious altercation, you better use a serious weapon, and if it's less serious, you can't use brass knuckles either... Bludgeoning weapons are a bit better. They have generally more range than a knife and are less lethal (unlike brass knuckles, you can hit limbs to dissuade someone). Most of them can also be used to parry and be used as a lever. Personally, I would have rated knives higher. However, it depends on the type and mode of carrying, but also your skillset. Most attacks begin without a warning and from close range, which is why guns are less effective than most people want them to be. Knives on the other hand rule supreme when it comes to weaponized grappling... Speaking of legality: those tactical lights are on the list of things the EU wants to ban! Brass knuckles and telescopic batons, saps, etc. are already banned or heavily restricted. The same goes for guns. Knives are mostly still available but don't make a good impression in court... The exception being that it's not a commando knife, but a tool you actually use every day... After all, you need to justify why you brought your gear into conflict just like you need to justify why you brought yourself into it... Even if you were seriously afraid, you can still look like some thug looking for trouble...
C'mon guys! We all know which is Mike's favourite self defence weapon, and it's not the flas light! It's the Stinger tactical whip, and he didn't hit Seth with it yet! This video needs a part 2…!
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What is the name and model number of that flashlight please? Great informative video by the way. Thank you for sharing this with us. 🙏
That is where sping kicks are helpful. It would spryed on your back.
Still waiting on that hapkido video! 👼
You should make a video on the kusari fundo chain. Lethal. easy to carry. easy to deploy.
Really hoping you see this to talk about it, but the one thing that’s not factored on your list is “INTIMIDATING” people do respond differently if you pull out a machete over a handgun and that difference can save your life
You took that pepper spray like a champ! The only logical conclusion is to try bear pepper spray next.
yeah, it would be nice to see what it does to someone who is not a greek god
funny thing is, contrary to what people may think, bear spray has lower concentration of 'pepery stuff' than human self-defense peper spray. It's more quantity, but weaker.
dried ghost peppers in alcohol and baby oil :D shit is low quality but stings different
I second your suggestion Houston. Bear spray. I'm also a firm believer that if you carry something (Tazer, pepper spray, baton, brass knuckles) you need to know what it feels like yourself.
@@Minsang1st “Weaker”?! Please define. Less peppers does not mean less effective peppers. And the sheer volume deployed by a bear spray vs the little human canister has to deploy a significant amount.
Maybe the best self defense weapon was the friends we made along the way.
no cap :D
That was cute
Those friends can either become a meatshield or can be used to fight 1 person and combo them, YOU GENIUS
Yeah, not joking either. Imagine being the guy trying to attack a bunch of gym buddies. There's a reason people who do violence for a living travel in groups, soldiers, cops, gangsters, all the same in this circumstance.
Also, being liked in general leads to be attached less, but that's beside the point.
I just prefer my cal 12 shotgun 😎
Easily the best video on your channel.
I dunno, did you see the one I was in?
Haha definitely. Ain't no party like an Icy Mike party!
do another one with more things like a screw driver
I don’t know. The Wing Chun one is pretty hot. 🤣🤣
Not enough pain
The part where Seth was banking on Houston Jones not answering the FaceTime call, and Icy Mike's childlike glee when he did, is one of the best things I've ever seen on TH-cam. It was almost wholesome, until the pepper spray was deployed, haha.
I used to work at a cutlery store, and any time people would come in asking about knives for self defense, we always (ALWAYS) pushed them to get a high power flashlight (preferably with a strobe effect) for self defense. Even got a few stories of people who used flashlights to great effect in self defense situations. Glad to see it come on top.
Survivor bias how many people you think got stabbed while carrying the flashlight u sold them bruh 😂dead men tell no tale
@@devoonbmx603
That's true.
I think flashlights can be very effective in non-lethal self-defense scenarios, but I'd never want to have only a flashlight in a lethal situation, especially if the attacker is significantly bigger than me...
but if you don't have any muscle, weak arms, it's not going to help. So it's not the best weapon to me. A grandma or a child can't use it
@@emilytchuu9876 But could a grandma or child use a gun or knife then? Effectively?
I hope none of them were stupid enough to take your advice. If a situation is bad enough that guns and knives are appropriate your blinky light won't do a damned thing.
"The hardest part is getting it out of your pants, then sticking it in them." -Icy Mike, 2022
Just kidding, love you guys!
@@ÕkamiMeansWolf for once he didn't make a joke like that on purpose
Honestly you took the pepper spray really well. In a high stress situation you'd have been hampered but not completely down. That's a lot more than most people could say
Don’t they mention he used like a c-rank spray, though? Not the worst one they had?
@@Paradox-es3bl he knew it was coming and closed his eyes, and MIke didn't spray him that much either.
Another understated benefit of a flashlight is that it makes people super uncomfortable to know they are seen when they can't see. There's some kind of psycho-social dynamic about one way observation that makes people feel extra vulnerable. Same with one way mirrors, cameras, tinted windows.
In urban areas they don't care. Been mugged broad daylight no one intervened. Been jumped and my has rocked by at least a few guys once again in a crowded area during the day at a festival, again no one intervened. So they wouldn't give tuppence to a flashlight.
Hey I carry a flashlight for self defense every day. It's on the end of my handgun 😂
I love that you guys do grappling training with weapons, I have known way too many people in my life that just carry a little pocketknife around for serious self-defense. And I try to tell them that that is not how a real fight is going to playout. thanks for the amazing content.
Yeah, that's such a shame. It comes down to laziness, because training is hard.
god the amount of times ive been told "just carry a knife" like it'd actually be a good idea in most situations lmao
I know people who genuinely know how to use knives and that shit is hella scary. Some guy slicing away at you with a karambit while also striking and deflecting with the other hand is pretty terrifying.
In all likelihood a knife is terrible for self defense. They cause a lot of damage sure, but it takes time for the damage to actually slow the attacker down enough to save you. People can be stabbed dozens of times before they’re incapacitated
@@benbratko9904 no not really, slashes can cut alot deeper than most people imagine, after a few slashes on your arms, they're pretty much useless.
But most people either dont have the right knife or aren't trained on how to properly use it.
How were steel-toe shoes missed?
Ability To Carry. - You're wearing them.
Lethality. It's up to you.
Legality. Perfectly legal.
Ability to Draw. Once again, you're wearing them.
Want a weapon that's ready and deadly, even when you're not? Steel-toe shoes are it.
Get two pair, one for training and one for going out on the town.
Take the trainers out in the backyard and kick the stuffings out of cardboard boxes etc.
Do this at least twice weekly.
Then wear the nice ones out on the town and if the bad time comes you will know what to do because you are already doing it.
Muscle memory can be a beautiful thing.
because they're not good weapons. they're terrible, and if you think otherwise your probably can't fight.
People get kicked to death every day. It's common sense.
@@johnogrady2418 unless you can grapple, are a taekwondo black belt(LOL) or there shins are made of glass it's a pretty bad self defense method(i wear steel toed boots and im size 11). You're much better off taking that time and putting it into BJJ and Muay Thai(pepper spray would also help).
Pepper spray: You are correct John Steves.
I've used it four times and it works so well I'm scared of it.
@@johnogrady2418
I accidentally sprayed it in a room I was in and for me it was brutal. Hurt like hell to see and to breath, even when I quickly left the room to the outside.
Lasted about 20-30 minutes, and it took a few seconds (3-10) to really kick-in. That's my only issue with it... the time it takes to really affect the attacker.
But some attackers will turn away for a few seconds, unknowingly giving it time, and that's good. Other experienced attackers might keep rushing, which could obviously be a problem. Then there's those it doesn't affect very much.
So, I definitely always carry pepper spray, but also I carry other weapons in case I need it.
I am a gun guy, however, I understand it should be the absolute last thing I should ever rely upon, knowing how to fight without one or while being grappled is just as important as knowing how to draw and shoot under ideal circumstances
Your videos with hard2hurt are always so good, especially the life hack testing in real life was absolutely hilarious
In before watching the video ...
1. Situational Awareness.
2. Feet (Escape)
3. Pepper Spray.
4. Gun.
Side note. I have used Pepper Spray defensively several times in my life and have watched countless video of people deploying it in defense, or in testing. I have NEVER seen anyone maintain as well as Seth did. Impressive.
1. Tactical whip
2. Run
I have no sensitivity to capsaicin. I have been directly pepper sprayed by accident when an inmate decided to finally get down as it was being sprayed at him. I caught a face full of industrial pepper spray and had no reaction. When we resumed pill line, one of the inmates said "nurse (last name withheld), I would never want to screw with you. You're a badass. The way you handled that pepper spray." My response was simple. I said "you shouldn't screw with anyone, especially any staff."
Anyway... Pepper spray is effective in a lot of people, but keep in mind not everybody. There's people like me who have no sensitivity to capsaicin, and there's people who have trained to fight through it. Seth's response actually looked about like the latter group. I'm guessing it's because he's actually fought through pain stimulus enough before, that it translated a bit.
@@Pharto_Stinkus My point was that you are acting like some pepper spray expert, but Seth's response was the most collected you've seen. I have seen plenty of people stay collected when getting sprayed, usually those trained to fight through it. I talked about my personal experience, so you can understand that some people are actually immune to it.
@@Pharto_Stinkus I'm not the one that has "used pepper spray defensively several times." Sounds like you get defensive a lot. 😂😂
@@Pharto_Stinkus he’s claiming nothing badass lol, just that he’s immune for physiological reasons.
100% support the flashlight as best choice.
Speaking of improvised weapons, you should do a whole video on the rolled up glossy magazine. I train with it all the time. Its excellent.
Yes! The "glossy" cover magazines are the BEST ones!. They can be rolled and9⁹⁹⁰⁰0⁰⁰⁰damage just like a baton.
Jason?
@@mattjack3983 Not to mention, you can open up the gas on a stove and put the magazine in a toaster as an improvised fuse.
Rolled up newspaper works just as well!
Feather duster anyone?
That moment you go "I wonder if Seth has released a new video?" And it was posted one minute ago.
dude I've genuinely been saying for ages a superhero like batman should have blinding lights built in to his cowl, I mean it wouldn't effect him other than increasing visibility but like your video shows, its effective at stopping people from seeing and, it' wouldn't be easy fighting what you can't see.
Great video! Thanks for sharing this.
I think pepper spray effectiveness is relative to how much and how quickly it gets into and interferes with the eyes, the nasal cavity, and the mouth. In other words, if the defender gets unlucky and sprays the assailant who managed to close their eyes and not breathe, they can last longer than someone who happened to get a direct hit with their eyes open and happened to be inhaling at the time.
As for the flashlight, I absolutely agree with flash, bash, dash. The problem is I think some people who carry flashlights do not understand this, and leave it on, thinking that it's just the brightness of the light, and not the residual spotting afterwards that ends up providing the blinding effect. If a light is left on long enough, it can eventually become a point of reference for a bad guy to roughly shoot in that direction, for example.
Perhaps I would rank the list a bit differently, but that would be minor detail. I think what is more important is to carry several of these items, and learning to use these tools in conjunction. I think you guys have mentioned this in other videos as well, but for example, the flashlight can be used in conjunction with a gun, but it is also entirely possible to use the flashlight in conjunction with the pepper spray. Flash, spray, and dash is perfectly viable as well.
To me, and up to a point anyway, there is no reason to argue which tools are better than the other. Like debating whether the hammer is better than the saw, or if the saw is better than the pliers, or if the pliers are better than hammers. In the end, what is truly important is to have the right tools you need to solve the problem, available at a time when you need it the most.
I was not expecting flashlight but it actually makes great sense, especially some rly powerful ones, I've had a powerful one flashed at me once and it dazes you pretty well.
Mike talks about this in his videos too, and also in a video with Jesse Enkamp about eastern vs. western weapons - that one is cool to watch :-)
Yep flash, bash, dash. You can easily pick up a pretty weighty flashlight that essentially doubles as a club too.
I recently learned the concept of not using the word "best" as an adjective anymore because it forces you to think more about why exactly you feel something is good. Instead of saying "guns are the best self defence weapons", one could say, "guns are good weapons for x y z..."
Instructions unclear, ended up buying a Fleshlight
Have you got use outa it?
That Mace Pepper gun has a picatinny rail on the top, and I actually got a picatinny flashlight mount for mine, so that I can combine the pepper spray and flashlight into a single carryable item.
I really like that you learn something for your newer videos, like reading a book and taking skillshare courses. Seth next year will be even more interesting.
I’d love to see you throughly test and analyze how effective ninja throwing stars/shuriken are for self defense. Mostly bc it just sounds fun.
They suck but are really fun to target practice
@@KIKAN_THE_RAT Just curious. Have you ever used a ninja star in a self defense altercation?
@@blakedove2263 how would you? You'd have to be the aggressor, what situation would even make sense?
See if Houston will let them throw the shuriken at his flexed muscles proving he is too tough for ninjas.
@@anonymoose2474 I mean. I’d assume any situation where you could legally pull out a gun and shoot someone in self defense you could probably pull out a ninja star instead. I was also joking
Tactical flash light with the strobe function is the holy grail of self defense weapons.
I wish they were much more powerful, though. Like super blinding even in bright noon daylight. In the dark it's no problem, of course.
For that (daylight use) it would have to be AT LEAST around 10,000 lumens (just guessing from my own flashlights), but those all seem to be larger flashlights.
Now, a strobe is a different story, potentially handling those high lumens in a smaller package. I just haven't found one that strobes that bright and is pocket-size.
Any suggestions?
@@TicTac-g7mstrobe is strictly worse, this guy in the vid hard2hurt channel has tested it vs regular and says strobe sucks
I was told to not let you get pepper sprayed in vain, so I’m doing as I was told. This was great!! Haha 🙌👍👍
Thanks Eric!! 😂😂😂
The less ineffective weapons were used in situations where they are obviously less effective. Guns are meant to be used at a distance, not in the fight already. Pepper spray is a deterrant so the user can run away from the attacker, or prevent the attacker from attacking in the first place. The point about the knife is valid but then you shouldn't be using a knife for self defense unless you've trained in how to use it.
Of course, but the point was to showcase the potential weaknesses of each. Guns are useless if you're already in a grapple, and they wanted to show that here. Pepper spray should be used as a deterrent, and doesn't always work as an immediate fight stopper, etc. But that doesn't mean they aren't effective in their element (see: countless Active Self Protection videos), just that you need to be aware of those shortcomings if you're going to carry them.
Not true any well train person in any of the weapons in the video can show proper usability far or up close for instance firearms are very effective up close when trained in up close training making at far not only still effective but might result in not even being used in certain situations depending on how you read the attacker . Best weapon in a fight is the person brain it results in adaptability and effective measures to achieve your goal , not get killed
@@sadflute8639 My point was that the weapons shown as 'less effective' were only shown in situations where they would be less effective. The amount of training a person has with something shouldn't be the only factor in determining the effectiveness of a self-defense weapon. It doesn't matter how good you can fight with a knife, the knife is pointless unless you are up close. If you are carrying a gun for self defense, it won't matter if your attacker has jumped you from behind and you can't draw the weapon. Even if you are trained in using a firearm in close proximity to your target, it is still wrong to use it in that way due to the increased chance of you being shot, or a poorly aimed shot hitting a bystander.
@@jasonneil4121 thats the point of the video genius, if someone wants to attack you they usually get closer they dont start the fight 10m away from you
I was kinda doubting the flashlight. But then Mike shined it into the camera. I'm in a lit room and I physically recoiled from the flash.
That would be very effective indeed.
1:18 Poor choice of words. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great test! I just have one complain:
The person with a gun has to draw it, but the person with the pepper spray would have it already in hands and be aiming with it? If you have to draw your gun, you have to draw that spray as well, that was inconsistent. By having to draw both, the spray falls down the list, for sure. If you feel in danger and you are able to draw and aim a pepper spray, you would be able to draw and aim a handgun.
The point is that you shouldn't draw the gun unless someone is threatening you with lethal force. Pepper spray, on the other hand, can be drawn before you feel your life is in danger.
Actually you got that wrong. He said with pepper spray you might ALREADY have it drawn (in your hand already), but not yet aimed.
So you only have to aim if you already have it in your hand, and they're small enough to keep in your hand without attracting too much attention.
With a gun you have to draw AND aim. You can carry a gun in your hand to avoid that problem, but I wouldn't do that.
I think situational awareness can give you more time for drawing a weapon. If you already have your hand on it, you can draw it much faster.
Much like practicing breaking a hold, if you are intercepting the move before he has his arm around your throat, it works better.
The issue here is that for the gun and the knife you started the test having the assaillant already wrestling you...
You won't be able to use pepper spray or a torch in the exact situation you tested with gun and knife...
I think the point was you can take out and walk around with peppery spray or flashylight in your hand if you're cautious of something walking your dog or something but you might have to draw the gun or knife at later stages of the scenario
Nope, but Mike addressed you can pull them out earlier and not wrongfully escalate it
@@grimunforgiven I see, I might have missed this.
It's a good point
@@h1llse248 it depends, if they have a weapon, then you are often justified in drawing a gun. This varies greatly from country to country tho.
@@johnsteves9158again, he said in the video that the best part of the pepper spray is you can use it in the widest array of circumstances, including probably those countries you were talking about, that’s why it gets a higher rating.
If I’m feeling threatened the last thing I need is to be thinking about legalities and things like that, pepper spray solves that. That’s why it’s going to be my first self defense weapon but eventually I will get a gun for myself
One of my sifu's taught me " the best weapon for self defence is a sense of humour " finding this impossible to counter without a sense of humour, I also teach this valuable lesson . ✊🙏
Humor can be a great deescalation tool, but a lot of violent criminals who are likely to want to harm you may take any attempt at humor personally and it might even make them more angry. Like anything, it is situational.
@@connorperrett9559 also when someone has attacked me it has been without warning and from behind or beside me as they are passing on a number of occasions.
People don’t want to give you the chance to react if they are serious about hurting you.
Yep, thats the best advice tbh
If you carry a weapon it should be the very last, final, ultimate option. Best way to stay safe during an altercation is to end the conflict before it starts.
Hell yeah ! My favorite duo , y’all have some amazing chemistry and it always makes a good viewing experience 👍
We have to get sprayed in the navy for the srf courses. It sucks getting sprayed but you can absolutely still fight after being sprayed without a lot of difficulty (as you saw). It just really sucks.
That’s actually the whole point of the course. To show you that you can fight if you’ve been sprayed (when you spray someone, you’ll probably catch some too) and that other people can fight after being sprayed.
Having been sprayed 3 times now, it’s definitely a good deterrent to someone who isn’t committed, but as you’ve shown the fight isn’t likely to stop just with the spray if they are committed.
STICK! as per shadiversity. 1 it's not concealed so your possible attacker knows you are armed and is less likely to target you in the first place, 2 it's already in your hand so very little to no draw time, 3 you can take it (almost) anywhere, 4 it looks cool.
I really hope you are being sarcastic.
1. Attacker knows you are armed and getting your head smacked from ambush is worse than doing the gimme-ya-wallet-routine
2. You can't do anything while holding it so you're actually more limited
3. You are not carrying that bludgeon anywhere without getting lots of weird looks
4. Looks stupid
My grandpa was a police officer and he says that you rarely have to use a weapon. Just the presence of a weapon scares people enough they decide to find an easier target.
It scares some people enough to do that, but a policeman's weapon is accompanied by the possibility for backup and the fact that cop killers will be punished even more severely than the average murder. Some criminals might see that you're a civilian openly carrying a weapon and try to take it off of you. Active Self Protection has several videos on his channel of open carriers being straight up executed or having their weapons taken off of their hips by criminals. If you open carry you need to be absolutely certain your situational awareness is on point and you cannot be comfortable with anyone being close to you from behind, even if you have a retention holster.
You also have to worry about how other civilians might view you. People are used to cops having handguns on their hips, but Leftists who see a lawful citizen open carrying are quite likely to overreact. There have been open carriers who have been in total compliance with the law who have been stopped by police or even arrested because a gun grabber sees them carrying and calls the cops or makes a scene.
A police officer told me the third time I was jumped to "buy a gun and don't be afraid to use it."
@@connorperrett9559 True. But, you do have the 2A for a reason so reactions from civilians are just fearful and dumb. I feel safe whenever I see someone packing. However, concealed is safer for "they won't go if they don't know."
@@connorperrett9559 why arrest them and not the ones making a false report which still is a crime I think, even in these lawless days! That's just unlawful and redundance!
Same principle applies to gun free zones. The presence of armed good guys discourages potential shooters.
Bro talking facts about knives. All these weapons experts and knife gurus show off cool knife moves but the reality is that it takes a mighty hack or stab to an area of importance to actually impact a fight. Respect to Mike he knows his stuff.
Mike's excitement at the pepper spray... Omg, it's like a kid on Christmas 🤣
I've never been pepper sprayed but I have grown super hot peppers (ghost peppers and brain strains)... Once I got used to the heat I started prepping with less protective gear and... I mean, I've got to take my contacts out sometime. That was a terrible twenty minutes 🤣🤣
Tazers are more effective. Especially handheld.
The point about if your brain has a similar enough something in its "bank" it will apply it. This is one of the things my instructor used to say, if you want to learn old style weapons to fight in the modern world, and not carry a weapon learn the 3 basic sticks, short baton, half length, and full length staff. At that point you have the pathways for anything straight and hard enough to hit people with.
100% agreed. At this point, though, I don't think either of these guys will ever seriously entertain a cane (or equivalent) until they are injured, or aged, to the point they are FORCED to use one. Only then will the utility be made clear. I'll be looking for the cane video sometime around the year 2050. Lol
I also like a kubaton. It causes pain and less likely to cause serious bodily injury to the attacker. It is like the knife or blaster in deploying it. I have made sheaths for them with the UltiClip.
Pepper sprays can vary in their potency.
Make sure you get the strongest available (I think it’s 1.4% capsaicinoids).
I keep it staged in my hand whenever I’m in sketchy places (like a Walmart parking lot 😄). I’m right handed and use a traditional stance, using my left hand to block and create distance and spray with my right, spray, then retract to avoid it being taken away….
But, I’ve never used it and hope I never have to. Kinda like wearing a seatbelt.
I like the flashlight idea too. Something to think about!
You might want to switch hands. Use your primary hand for defense as it is stronger. You don't need the strength to hold onto the spray, and if they are able to close and "take it away," you'll need that strength and capability available in a free hand.
Idk depending on your stance a left hand might be better foe deflecting and keeping distance and right better for pepper spray accuracy.
I will admit that ive never trained with pepper spray so i don't really know.
You really did handled that pepper spray well, it's funny that you relied on Houston Jones for it! Also I didn't realize the flashlight was such a good weapon! Thanx for the tip!
I feel like an armored tank is definitely in my top 3.
Ukrainians disagree.
@rogueirl
But you do bring up a good related point... drive, not walk, where you need to go (if practical).
It's the "it got in my eyes" while exiting the bathroom with Mike for me
I can assess for sure that a flashlight will definitely work depending on how bright and Powerful the flashlight itself is like one of those self-defense flashlights that have the blinking those type of Lights like LED or super bright honestly it could be just getting dark or just starting to about to get dark or I can even still be fairly light out and you hit me with it and my eyes will shut because I have sensitive eyes lots of other people do as well so the brighter the better especially if it's one of those blinking things but if you keep it straight shining through that will also help your case as far as wanting to keep up a total dangerous person away from you if it looks like they're trying or if you know for sure they're wanting to try to do you harm in any kind of fashion
I'd say for the pepper spray, depending on the spread and nozzle design this is really likely to be the scenario irl in a lot of cases where someone is charging in on you.
Glad to see everyone is getting onboard with flashlights these days to.
Reasons I love the *Staff* for self-defense:
1) If you need a staff, you can probably find one. A broom, a pool cue, a rake, a long stick - Staffs are everywhere.
2) A staff can keep distance from your opponent. Keep-away makes for great defense.
3) It's a non-lethal weapon that can hurt someone a lot, without doing serious damage (in trained hands).
And its easy to master too
I live in Georgia so the thing is that it's legal to open Terry and once you get proficient withdrawing you're not going to have a problem drawing before the Falcon step
Mike was the real ninja all along.
If the gun is still in my pocket/holster and the grappling has begun I probably would not even think about the gun... Wrong time to try and pull it out.
such a fire thumbnail props to the artist
Compact handguns are still the best self-defence tool to protect yourself and other people, since it’s not like every fight is a grapple.
That said, videos like this are needed due to the legal and social stigma around guns.
Yeah i like what Mike says about the gun. If someone can't line up a shot before getting grappled, the guns much less effective and often detrimental.
@@johnsteves9158 its not that hard to line a shot. its alot faster then any weapon they use on this
@@dannybowers4133 have you checked out icy mikes videos on the subject? Its not as easy as it seems.
@@johnsteves9158 his videos are for athletes that's been training their hole life. For the everyday slob a gun is your best option.
So many people carry knives and don’t realize there’s a good chance that even if you do happen to land a good cut on your attacker they may just keep going and not notice. It’s just not that disabling.
I think the best one is whichever requires less time to use: Flashlight and the Self Defense Umbrella, which i can already hold in my hands and is useful for other occasions.
Best thing for self defense? Good situational awareness, properly fitting running shoes, and a decent cardio regimen.
Having to get into a fight means you’ve already lost. If it’s unavoidable/completely by surprise? Something that can’t be pried out of your hand without a lot of work, a secondary you can get to just as easily, and cardio again for when you get the chance.
The guy in the first one knew that he was supposed to be getting a knife. Which means he knew that person had a knife if it were to break out. That person isn't just going to announce it. They would pull it out when another person can't see it and use it so that wasn't realistic.
Situational awareness is key, stop the fight before it starts.
Goddamn, I love the look of malicious glee on Icy Mike's face as he says "This is the stupidest thing!"
Awesome video, Sensei!! I'd love to see more on self defense! Cheers from Brazil!
Video quality gets better every video. Great to see I know you’ll both be huge soon.
I daily every day carry for last 30 plus years a handgun, fixed blade knife, pepper spray, and tactical flashlight at a regular job with regular clothes so the answer is all of them as they all have specic uses and not one be all end all and best combo is all
He freaking walked out of the dark bathroom with mike and says “ugh it got in my eyes”
The SkillShare promo was outstanding!
I trained in pistol combat and received highest classification with Thai Armed Force Security Center. I received CCW concealed carry permit and carried SigSauer P225for three years, before I changed to carry knife. that lasted less than a year. Both were too much of a hassle to carry. I now rely solely on muaythai, and running. When you do muaythai, you run and skip rope as well. Brass knuckle, I have a couple. They now lay collecting dust. BTW I used to train muaythai at Fairtexfor >17 years, before changing camp because of Covid 19
you act as if you are attacked on a daily basis. LOL
Your entire post was about your EGO. Learn some humility.
the slight horror music that ramps up as Mike is describing knifes xD
"season to taste" for pepperspray got me 😂😂
a quality flashlight is such a underrated defense tool. if a man cant see a man cant fight. period.
Your mind is the best weapon of defense.
My Sensei would be proud.
I really enjoyed this video. I watched his other video comparing the differences between Japanese weapons and his choice of weapons. Overall, I agree. Flashlight definitely is a good tool. Some guns have it attached. Be safe y’all!
Heavy duty/tactical flashlight, easily. Turn it on right in someone's face, blind them. Strong built, so it can be used as a blunt weapon. Definitely legal, I mean, it's a flashlight. Also, it gives options, with that first flash, you blind them, giving you time to run to safety, instead of risking a fight. Seriously, the flashlight is an insanely good self defense weapon. If you think I'm wrong, get a friend, and have them turn a flashlight on right in your face, see how long your blinded/stunned for. Solar flare!
Mikes' evil laugh az 8:40 translates into: "I gonna give him a load of pepper spray soon!"
I will use everything aa a weapon. Even that chair can be highly effective if used right. I mean a chair to the throat could be very effective. However something so large can be blocked and grabbed.
The reason i like the flashlight the most is for the blinding effect. Sets up every other possible even better. Self defense means a ton of things. Legally it can mean alot too. Best self defense is the one you make most available. I was a security guard and unarmed. However I know that in most states that drawing a firearm can mean two things. "I feel threatened and you need to back off or I have to use it." Or "you are about to get shot." If that intention is not said out loud it's more clear the reason.
Loved the improvised portion! Sort of danced around the OODA Loop theory, but it all works!
Seth, if you really decide to learn Japanese please let me know. Studied Japanese on and off for like 7 years until finally discovering immersion learning. I've tried EVERYTHING, and this is the only thing that was sustainable, enjoyable, and worked. But immersion learning can be confusing at first, id be happy to help you through it. Hit me up anytime. Keep up the great content. Cheers
I keep a new wasp spray near each door cheap and easy to aim and throw far to replace pper spray..
I've seen quite a few stabbing videos and I dont think I've ever seen someone just stop after the first stab, even the people who get stabbed in the heart end up dieing somewhere down the road, I've seen people stabbed in the neck, blood spurting everywhere and they're still fighting hard until they gradually weaken, I'd never advise a knife as a self defence weapon, it's the kind of weapon you use if you wanna make a big mess, people dont realise how messy and brutal knife attacks are
Ive seen people drop after one stab but they usually weren't aware they were about to get stabbed, most videos ive seen of someone getting shot usually ends with the guy dropping after the first shot.
My guess is it had to either be a liver stab or a panic reaction.
You can do more than stab with a knife though. Severed tendons and ligaments cause *instant* immobility.
I personally like knife and flashlights too!
“The hardest part is getting it out of your pants, and then sticking it in” -Mike
Wow an old Navy SEAL gave me a Thyristor control photoflash unit he had carried in Vietnam. When I say old Navy SEAL the man has long since passed away and he was in SEAL class 1,2 or 3. He was doing underwater hydrological studies of the Cuban coastline and he was in Vietnam in 1964 or 1965. When that Xenon bulb pops off the person who got flashed is blinded for 20 seconds. We didn't have white Cree LEDs or Krypton bulbs back in the 1960s, but we did have photo flash units.
Take some boxing classes. Take some wrestling and/or bjj classes. A month of each will put you head n shoulders above most people on the street. Take some pistol classes. Get a permit. Carry offhand light. And work on your situational awareness. I carry pepper spray mostly for dogs. But its nice to have options.
I agree with the flashlight thinking but it’s never that dark outside or even my house in the middle of the night. So unless you’re in the mountains of Montana during a new moon, at which point you’re being attacked by either a 500lb grizzly bear or a 9ft sasquatch the flashlight would never blind someone enough to where the can’t see you. even my Nitecore E4K wouldn’t be bright enough
This video rocks. 🤘
Flashlight is also my top choice for self protection. Would like to see you incorporating your martial arts skills using a flashlight.
I love that this is on your channel instead of Mike's for a change, but of course he's gotta be involved if you're talking self defense nonsense and diy weapons tests lmao
Love both you guys and your channels!
i feel like there needs to be a Sensei Seth/Icy Mike bromance sitcom
Well if you deep cut your aggressor to the point you cut a tendon in his hand or arms for sure his grip will ease a you will get a strong advantage
I think another more important category was missed. Escalation of threat. Which weapon is more likely to have an aggressor back down, and to that point what weapon would neutralize a threat quicker. I would argue a gun all the way is the best weapon for this, followed by a knife, then tazer, then pepper spray.
That is where sping kicks are helpful. It would spread on your back. Talking about the spray.
This is the easiest digestible video for self defense tools/weapons. Thanks for taking one for the team.
Meh, a trained fighter against someone that has a gun but no training. Oh and the person with the gun has bad situational awareness by getting into a spot with an attacker that can grab them. But hey I guess this will sell their training…
Lol how will this sell our training
@@lubrew5862 well that was kinda the point, I'd reccomend checking out icy mikes channel(hard2hurt) if you haven't already, the link should be in the description
Kimber makes a pepperspray gun that’s made like a small pistol and fits in a kydex inside-the-waistband holster. It’s easier to carry and deploy than something buried in the bottom of a purse or your pocket with your keys attached. That’s what I use…..along with a 9mm pistol.
I just love how happy Mike was about the pepper spray... So hilarious.
One I found while cleaning today. Mini fire extinguisher. Unless they’re fully coming to murder you, spraying someone with that would scare them off
Johnny Rambo insisted the mind was the best weapon although he was famous for carrying a gigantic knife and M60 belt fed machine gun.
Vivo en Chile y he sido víctima de 3 asaltos, en el último estuve preparado con gas pimienta y fue sumamente efectivo y fácil de usar, además, el delincuente justo logró cubrirse con algo que tenía al frente, no obstante el mecanismo de acción de mi gas pimienta era en "Spray" y no en chorro, por tanto el asalante se inhabilitó casi instantáneamente al momento de defenderme, debo decir que me siento mucho más seguro con el gas pimienta que cualquier otra arma de defensa personal de contacto.
There is prepared weapons deployments and unprepared weapons deployment and then there is your training. My advise is to focus on a weapon of lethality, like a pocket knife, or gun, and then a shape of common availability such as a stick or rock. If you really want to get into it. Go into sim training. Go to a building or environment and go have hand to hand combat with everything you expect to have around. For example, a classroom, chairs, calculator's, backpacks full of books, etc.
Absolutely best weapon of self defense is to AVOID the whole situation where you may need a weapon. Second is your wits that allows you to avoid the situation worsening up to a fight. Third is your feets, you may run away from most situations.
This is the worst advice by far
I'm a bit surprised that they didn't discuss the weapons in the thumbnail...
Brass knuckles are in an odd spot. They frigging hurt to use seriously and they are neither particularly less-lethal nor do they have crazy stopping power. In a serious altercation, you better use a serious weapon, and if it's less serious, you can't use brass knuckles either...
Bludgeoning weapons are a bit better. They have generally more range than a knife and are less lethal (unlike brass knuckles, you can hit limbs to dissuade someone). Most of them can also be used to parry and be used as a lever.
Personally, I would have rated knives higher. However, it depends on the type and mode of carrying, but also your skillset. Most attacks begin without a warning and from close range, which is why guns are less effective than most people want them to be. Knives on the other hand rule supreme when it comes to weaponized grappling...
Speaking of legality: those tactical lights are on the list of things the EU wants to ban! Brass knuckles and telescopic batons, saps, etc. are already banned or heavily restricted. The same goes for guns. Knives are mostly still available but don't make a good impression in court... The exception being that it's not a commando knife, but a tool you actually use every day... After all, you need to justify why you brought your gear into conflict just like you need to justify why you brought yourself into it... Even if you were seriously afraid, you can still look like some thug looking for trouble...
Ayy Houston Jones... What a bonus on top of an already awesome colab 🙌🏻
C'mon guys! We all know which is Mike's favourite self defence weapon, and it's not the flas light! It's the Stinger tactical whip, and he didn't hit Seth with it yet!
This video needs a part 2…!
He has actually!
@@SenseiSeth We want part 2 Seth, with more whipping action!
2:50 icy mike being a a TH-cam comment IRL is great conedy