OKC Thunder Offseason Guide: The MASTER experiment 👀 | NBA on ESPN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Bobby Marks delves deep into his latest NBA Offseason Guide following the OKC Thunder’s exit from the NBA Playoffs.
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Love the videos Bobby but there ain't no way someone at Espn can't send you a simple at home recording set up.
I have been wondering this since he's been doing them. I am convinced for whatever reason ESPN likes the homey personal feel of these - and they are very wrong.
They really treat him like the bald headed step child
Okc definitely did not give up second most points in the regular szn. They were a top 5 defense. And they didn’t even give up 100 until the Mavs series so I think I said that oppositely
I thought he meant giving up 2nd most second chance points, which is probably true because they gave up the 2nd most offensive rebounds in the league.
@@hestilllives192 okay yea that would make much more sense
Im sure Presti has a plan in play on what he is going to do to make the team better. The guy is a basketball genius
Are we talking about the guy, who inherited Durant, was able to choose Westbrook in his first draft, drafted James Harden in the next draft and was able to coax one finals trip out of the trio of Durant, Westbrook and Harden, before trading Harden for pennies on the dollar and losing Durant in free agency!?
Most franchises would fire a GM for this kind of success, and I am wondering, whether once again taking this let's wait and contend in the future approach will lead to more success!
Granted, Presti has amassed a nice war chest of assets, but at some point lack of roster space will make those a little worthless!
@@exilhamburger4802 1) He didnt inherit Durant, he chose to draft him. (Presti was also the GM of the Sonics)
2) He wasnt able to choose Russ, he took a huge gamble selecting him 4th overall and he got slandered and mocked for it initially. (Russ was mocked outside of top 10)
3) He traded Harden for pennies because the ownership wasnt willing to pay the tax, not his fault.
4) He made a perennial contender for Durant but his cupcake self wanted an easy way to a ring. Presti couldnt have done anything more.
5) It is possible to trade picks for others further down the road. (Something Presti has already done twice)
6) Stop with the blind hate and learn something about the topic you are talking about before you spew trash takes.
@@exilhamburger4802 Stupid take.
@@exilhamburger4802 Sam Presti was the youngest GM back then when he drafted the og big 3. I doubt that he’ll do something like the harden trade ever again, he def learned his lesson from it.
Lauri Markannen would fit flawlessly on the Thunder
So perfectly. He’s exactly who they need. Wouldn’t even be mad at the Thunder if they overpaid with picks for him. Throw Giddey and 3 picks.
you'd have to give up jdub for him
@@theotherguy2675Lauri ain’t worth it. Giddey Gordon and picks is all we got unfortunately
I don't know if Presti would deal with Danny Ainge though. Ainge is accustomed to raiding team's daft capital and I don't know if Presti is giving up 4 or 5 picks for Markannen. Just sayin.
@@theotherguy2675 not with the picks OKC has. Giddey, Deing, and 5 firsts could get it done imo
The best thing for OKC to do is package Giddy and picks for some size and playmaking.
I get what were you’re saying but sounds funny to say trade a 6’9”pass first point guard for size and playmaking lol.
I do think 1 guy for each of those needs is good.
@@jacobwilliams7135 Definitely ironic. But he looks closer to 6'7" in the way that Shai looks closer to 6'4". Giddey despite his size did nothing to help with the rebounding deficit and isn't a great man-defender.
@@jacobwilliams7135 well, you just have to get better in those areas. Get rid of Giddy because there's just something off about the dude, and you lure someone to take your dead weight with some picks.
@@LennieNelson55 whatever it is, I saw several times when he was starting, all the starters were 0-10+ in plus minus, and he sticks out like a sore thumb with a -20 or so. Hell, even if you get nothing back, trade him to Utah for cash considerations or something. OKC has a lot of assets. There's no reason they can't upgrade their squad, but get rid of Giddy first.
@@LennieNelson55 dude was the 2nd best rebounder and assists in the team. And by the last few months of the regular season had one of the best 3pt%. Also lead the team when SGA and jdub were injured
He's great when he's not in his own head and over thinking things.
They should go after lauri in utah and him n chet can be dominant in the paint
Danny ainge aint giving him up lol he a penny pincher
just know they're gonna want jalen williams for lauri. still make that trade?
@@theotherguy2675better than having a 6’5 guard at PF and gives Utah a legitimate star to build around which won’t happen in OKC next to Chet and Shai. He could have a James harden type of season if he gets the touches a 1st option would get.
Hell no 😂
@@Breathe_YTthunder are not trading JDUB, and it’d be unrealistic for Ainge to believe Thunder would even entertain the idea. Dub has shown much more potential than Lauri.
Josh Giddy to the spurs makes sense to me.
OKC should go after Hartenstein. They need a Big that can rebound.
I hope not he’s extremely mid.
That would be a great pick up for okc
What about the guy you OKC fans sold us all year as better than Wemby? Now suddenly Hartenstein is better than chet? I'm a Wemby's fan since years as french but come on. Chet is a greaaat 5!!! Any other year he would have been unanimus ROTY!
@@lecoolpotager6670 people are in a rush for some reason, the gm isn't so I don't worry. Chet will 100% be the 5 next year, we could use a big 4 to help out in stead of runninga a 6 5 guard at pf, but we'll see
@@lecoolpotager6670 um because the thunder don't have another center on the time lol? When chet was on the bench in the playoffs we couldn't rebound or guard the rim.
They should draft another guard to replace Hayward then just run it back.
Everyone knows, hopefully even Presti, their need is size, strength, physicality, and rebounding. If they could shock the Thunder faithful and actually get this, they would be hard to beat.
Wallace will eventually usurp Giddey. He has everything you want in your fifth guy. Great 3 point shooter and defence. Also when him and Chet are in their prime you'll have two guys who are all defensive team level defenders to go with Dort who's one of the best defenders in the league. Having those three on the floor all at once will be a nightmare for any team.
OKC got some postseason experience now they just need to improve the bench
I think if we keep everybody until a certain time to see how much they can develop before the deadline then possibly make a trade we need another big man to go alongside Chet or a back up and move Jdub to SG maybe draft a center or Pf with some rebounding and inside finishing
I think having jdub who has been our second best offensive go to option all season could develop fine as a 2 guard with length and he shot good from 3 all season he just wasn’t able to keep that level of play through the playoffs but that’s part of development
We need another serge ibaka type at the 4
As An Okc Fan Seeing What We Need I Feel We Should Go For It .. We Have A Legit Window & 2 Years Before We Gotta Pay Our Core
They are so young give it time!
If OKC can get a Brook Lopez type player, it's a dub.
young BL?
Lopez took a dump this season. He is older and a bit slower now on his feet. If that was the 2021 Brook, then they can surely fare better against Pacers.
While that sounds cool at first glance because they need a big man defender who can space, they need rebounding and Lopez has never been a prolific rebounders.
Thank god i don't have to hear that "what a pro wants" commercial again.
Thank you. I'm so glad more people hate that stupid commercial
Seems like Giddy is the odd man out
Yeah it's a shame because I still think he has a lot of potential but he regressed a lot this season. Has to have something to do with all the controversy. He dropped 30 against the Pels in the play in game last year but this post season he was just a liability. I kinda want them to give him his last chance this season. It's his last year on his rookie contract any way so might as well. At least until the deadline
@@heisenberg3183I think they should keep him just let him run the bench lineup and go after Lauri with the 12th pick maybe
@@heisenberg3183You say regressed 🤔 Still 21yo being accused of a jail offence and Continually attacked on social media by Grubs . Booed at games abused while playing and imagine what was going through he’s head. Giddey will come back and be a great player where ever he lands.
Him and Lu Dort.
It’s a LOT of people in these comments that don’t know ball and it’s showing 😂
Would be great if Osmane Dieng developed at SF/PF. I like Pf J. Will but he’s potentially everything but a Shot Blocker a keeper nonetheless. N. Claxton and Jonas Valencuiunas and rookie Pf /C at 12 like K. Ware would complete the NBA Takeover
OKC should try to snag Hartenstein.
Wow such insight it’s like you talked to presti thanks
Notice Chet didn’t get a chance Chet needs the ball more
Trade Giddey, go after Lauri and hope Ous take the next step and crack the rotation
Also get Oliver sarr healthy and bring him up
@@311ricoohes been in there system for a while probably does have upside
You Giddey haters really don't know anything about basketball. The core of this team is Giddey, SGA, Chet and JDub. If they keep this core group of 4 together they're going to be a dynasty and win multiple championships. This core is untouchable just like the core group of KD, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka were. We all saw what happened when Presti foolishly traded away part of that core group of 4 with Harden. It all fell apart and no championships were won when they could have won 3 or more. Giddey can NOT be traded.
Can the thunder afford a big named guy like Lauri. I know it’s gonna be hard enough to pay Chet Shai and J dub. If not I like just an average big guy that can hold it down while Chet is oit
Okc needs a 2 way 4 man who can shoot and score like Miles bridges or Lauri markenen or siakam we don’t need another center we proved we can beat any team in this league without rebounding we need more scoring
I've definately been warming up to the idea of zach edey joining the team. I didn't know he could actually shoot 3s.
Eyes on Kyle Kuzma. Rebounding 4 to offset Chet, declining contract, Will Dawkins certainly likes some of OKC’s guys
Okc needs to give up a 2nd round pick or two for Drummond thats all we needed , rotation big mainly for rebounding
As long as he is happy coming off the bench.
Drummond is the opposite of what Sam Presti wants
Nice to see I'm not the only person who has listened to Sam Presti interviews.
I sometimes feel like 95% of Thunder fans totally miss that Sam Presti isn't trying to build a traditional boring basketball team of the decades of old.@@Brofreshonal
Isaiah Joe also signed as a free agent
Whats Andre Drummonds contract situation? A rebounding, shot blocking, lob threat that could play next to Chet in short minutes. He wouldnt mess up the lineup because of his inability to finish games and he is a vet off the bench...
Drummond is know for a bad attitude and low IQ on the floor. He’s gonna clog the paint and make the offense stagnant.
I THINK he is going to be a free agent, if 2k24 is anything to go by.
Mark gonna run it back with his same starting 5 and sure up the bench. Mo Wagner is a name to look out for not hartenstein. Mark gonna draft Tyler or Tidjane and Ous will technically be their first round pick hes gonna see the court a whole lot
Best take I've heard anywhere
What would it take to get Jalen Johnson?
The bagel guy has really turned his life around.
GET LAURI
Congratulations to your 18 year old graduating 🎓 👏
Yeah see I personally think they should absolutely go for Nic Claxton and spend the money. I think that would be a great fit. He's around the same age of the core. He's almost a nightly double double - so rebounding will improve. Plus he gets around 3 blocks a game - him and Chet defending the rim would be insane. Plus, he doesn't need to score, which is perfect cause we have that in the bag already. Even if they signed him to $25 mil a year, that would still leave roughly $15 mil in cap space. Just a thought.
This would never happen, but someone like Myles Turner is exactly the player they need.
Anthony Davis would be a perfect fit
Where’s my raptors rebuild?
Surprised he skipped over the ramifications of the Gordon Hayward ERROR-A this past season which we all know is mercifully at its end for both parties. Marks's incoming texts through him off.
As a Thunder fan since they first move to OKC, I 100% think the Thunder should make ZERO moves this offseason. Keep the exact same roster other than letting Hayward go away.
Team continuity matters, stop switching things up all the time. The team is good already, just let the 21-23 year olds get more practice in this summer, let them reflect on all the crazy lessons they learned this season.
The Thunder don't even need that #12 pick.
I’m a massive Thunder fan like you. We absolutely 100% need more size and rebounding. Giddey needs to be traded as well.
The only move that needs to be made is for Lauri. Throw Giddey and picks.
Trade #12 for Lauri keep Giddey just move him to the bench
Move Lauri to the bench.@@311ricoo
@@LD21333 YES I totally agree it's OBVIOUS we need size and more rebounding capabilities we need like a serge ibaka type at the 4
Draft Jared mccain sign a center free agent
They need a pg and a C
They need to package some of those picks and go get a legit 2nd option.
JW and Chet are fine 2nd and 3rd options. They need length and 3pt shooting. Klay and Lauri make so much sense for that. Could sign Klay and trade for Lauri.
That was the worst off-season guide video I have ever seen. No information at all. Nothing specific to the team. Just general thoughts 👎🏾👎🏾
hater for a living
The latter half of the video was so bad. I like Bobby, but the organization of this video feels very unlike him.
Probably a year too soon.
Fox and hens??????
Okc needs to draft a Joel Embid and Brook Lopez type build if l they are going to make the finals next year
Oh that’s all? Yeah just draft the build and skill of an MVP and a defensive player of the year candidate. Should be easy at #12 in a weak draft. Is that all? SMH
Wait a yr until Embied wants out of 76ers
Go get him but he will get injured.
Embied not worth it
@@somisworldviewsthey be better off getting KD back than going for Joel.
@@somisworldviewshe can’t stay healthy. Would be a waste if picks.
@@AdamLovesHorror can always find diamonds. Did you think Jalen Williams was going to be this good at 12?
just run it back and don’t move your starting 5. simple
Currently with isaiah joe or with the old line up with Josh Giddey
no sam presti already said at the start of the season hes gonna watch us in the playoffs to see what we need for this team and make a move.
Trade Giddey, go after Lauri
Need to add another Big, a shooter, and maybe get off giddey
I think they need to go after a big man via trade, either an absolute 2-way beast down low or a big guy that can hit a 3. Go get an All-Star like Giannis, Brook Lopez, AD, JJJ, KAT, Embiid, Bam, Markkanen, etc., so Chet can play 4 instead of 5, and JDub can play at the 3 instead of the 4, I don't care what the cost is, OKC has more first round picks next few years than they have roster spots.
They need a big to play with chet.
Why wouldn't they sign Claxton? Perfect fit in my opinion. They have the money and he could split time with Chet or play the 4.
Presti likes bigs who can shoot. Claxton doesn’t fit there system
Forget Markkanen trade for his teammate Kessler. Then sign Jimmy Buckets
Go after Markkanen or Mikal Bridges and potentially trade for Jarrett Allen.
Bobby marks be honest with giddy. He doesn’t fit on the team. Don’t sugar coat stuff.
They drafted Lively then traded him for Cason 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️
you say this like Cason was bad. Dude will fit flawlessly in their lineup for years.
@@knoxconaryfacts
Cason is just as good as Lively
Don’t forget Wallace made a solo key defensive play to close out the Pelicans
they should go after free agent this off-season JALEN DUREN
Do you know what the words free agent mean? It means players that can sign with any team they want. Duren just finished his second year of his rookie deal. Detroit would have to TRADE him, OKC can’t sign players who are on a contract.
I think they got to move Josh Kiddy I think they should go after Malik monk give them elite score six-man type player. When shay came out the game that's what teams came back on them.
Naw. Think back to when they dismantled the Celtics without Shai... I watched this team all year as well. You are a fair-weather fan... Just a casual.
ESPN is trash
OKC would be the Perfect spot for Embiid. Move Chet to the 4. SGA, Joel, Chet, Williams.
Trade for a cheaper big man or trade up in the draft. We don’t want his wobbled body crumbling in the playoffs.
Worst take I've seen
I don't really think a rookie Center is what OKC needs...
Someone with a bit of experience that can go up against Chet in practice might help him develop a bit more. I still wish the Thunder didn't trade Adams away... doesn't really fit the Thunder style on the floor, but he would be good practice for Chet. @@mykaelmarshall8204
Philly finally has an opportunity to add a MAX player to Embid and Maxey and you believe Daryl Morrey is going to trade him? Cmon
Sixers won’t get a max dummy. There nobody out there. George is resigning. Do I think it will happen this year no. But after next year Embiid will be dealt
HONESTLY THE THUNDER SHOULD JUST PLAY GORDON HAYWARD 48 MINS
I said the same thing if he played 20 mins a game in the playoffs they definitely would've had a better chance of winning not saying Gordon is a difference maker but imhe could've contests more shots on Luka and Kyrie for sure
@@juliusdeloachBrother, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs and didn’t score a single point. As a thunder fan who was excited when we got him. He was atrocious and never ever wanted to shoot the ball.
Trade giddey and three 1st round picks for KD. I dont think KD messes up anything theyre doing and they need a veteran presence that can score 25+ a night and still defend. Their window is NOW. Fk Giddey trade him now
Do you understand that contracts need to be a lot closer to matching for that to happen?
That or trade for Lauri
No. Fk Durant. He left, he can stay gone.
This guy said trade for KD 😂😂😂
Trade Chet Holmgren for a center who can rebound.
HELL NO/ CHET IS VERSATILE. HE CAN PLAY PF
Any team should just sign Andre Drummund and make that trade with OKC right now if that's the case lol.
Chill he’s young and he’s 7’1. He’ll learn how to rebound
Lol... Suddenly the ROTY sold all year sucks? Come on ! Your team is the youngest NBA, let them hoop!
The youngest good team in the NBA... Not sure they are the youngest overall, depends on if you are counting the whole roster, the starting 5, or by minutes played.
The best team in the NBA that still has cap space... @@lecoolpotager6670