Honestly this car is phenomenal for what is it. If you're someone who wants an automatic over a manual I can't think of a better combination of practicality and performance sub 40k.
Oh how do I love the VW GTI! I wish I had time to count all the ways. This baby is my numero uno for the best hot hatch and overall car in the under $35K segment. Haters- don't start nagging me about reliability, et., al. Go spend some time in the GTI and if you have even an inkling of a driver's bone in your body, you will get this vehicle. I spent quite some time in this vehicle as a rental and absolutely loved it!! Great review Joe Raiti!
I got a Tornado Red 2021 SE in manual with the 18 inch black Pretoria rims like on the Rabbit. Has more than enough gizmos for me and I had a good deal. I already had to modify it with a lower engine mount insert to reduce engine movement. The lower mount makes the engine shift around way too much with the manual.
Joe I had 3 GTI's back in the 80's, an 84, 85 and 87. Back then they were all 2 dr and 5 speeds only. No 4 dr or autos. They were built in PA, my state, and the first was white, second was red, third was blue! How patriotic! The 79 Rabbit was first built in PA and too Americanized! But when the 83 Rabbit GTI was introduced here, 76 in Germany as the Golf GTI, it had an American interior, but not bad and was a blast to drive. It gave me some tickets!!! Like the new ones it has a decent amount of room for people and luggage. They have been very popular in Europe, especially Germany, Italy and England. They were also reliable unlike the latter Mexican models. Also decent on gas. Finally in Europe they even made some GTI Cabrios and Sportwagens, Not to mention the Sportwagen Golf R!
@@stephenhendricks103 not according to the people who have bought the Mexican cars! Is that why VW had mentioned moving production of the Golfs back to Europe. The Mexican models of other brands have also been problematic. Good luck if you think different Senior!!!
@@davemcguigan218 Having owned both the last MK6 GTI built in Germany and a MK7.5 GTI built in Mexico I'd maintain that the 7.5 version on the MQB platform is significantly superior in build quality. As to why VW is considering moving production of Golfs to Germany, manufacturers make those kinds of decisions for many reasons. In the case of the Golf it may well be that VW wants to ramp up production of the Jetta in Mexico because that is their volume model in the US while the base Golf sells so poorly that they are considering discontinuing it in the US. It makes little sense to build Golfs in Mexico if it isn't even sold in the US. BTW, if you're going to proclaim your expertise about Mexican auto production, you should probably learn to spell "Senor."
@@stephenhendricks103 Then by all means go right ahead and buy all the Mexican cars your heart desires. I am not the only one who feels this way. If you look on the internet there are people who get quite angry about VW and Mexico built cars. The Brazilian Fox was also just as bad. And I guess you are the quality expert saying Mexican cars are fantastic. Keep drinking the Kool Aid "Senor" Sorry I am not Spanish, maybe you are!
Great review. My first GTI was the 84, and I’ve loved them ever since. Still can’t get my head around a 4 door GTI thought. ;-). Appreciate your great reviews.
I never was much of a VW fan but that looks like it would be a fun to drive and versatile car. The seats remind of the 1970’s. Back then I think it was AMC that had denim seats in some of their cars. Good job Joe! Have a great weekend! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
I agree with the cloth arm rests. however, I owned a Golf TDI for 6 years and it had the same cloth armrests. They were surprisingly resilient and easy to clear, so I wouldn't worry about the cloth...
Just bought this exact car (all black). Gotta say it’s definitely BY FAR the best car I’ve ever owned! I didn’t even know that this has the same breaks as a Golf R 🤯, probably why it feels so “sporty” compared to others. I couldn’t imagine spending money on an SE or Autobahn tbh. You may get things like a sunroof and leather seats but personally I prefer the traditional plaid cloth seats (which are still heated) and for the price of an Autobahn trim you might as well get a Golf R.
The DSG is a very tempting option in the GTI, but the MT is really smooth / easy to use and I think would be fine in daily traffic. I rarely adjust my seat once things are configured so, I have no issue with the combo electric manual controls. The rabbit has a really good feature set with the LED lighting and the keyless entry / fob -- two high value options for me. BUT the older radio v. the newer unit found in the SE and Autobahn is disappointing. I've found the faux leather seating to be really hot against my body, almost uncomfortably so, so the cloth is probably a better option. I wish that the GTI in the States had synthetic suede centers on the seats.
I'd driven many, many years with at least one MT vehicle in my garage before I bought a DSG GTI in 2013. When I replaced it with a MK7.5 GTI last year I didn't hesitate to choose a DSG version again. I'd estimate that I drive in manual mode more than 50% of the time, choosing the gear I want with the paddle shifters or by clicking the stick on the center console. It shifts virtually instantaneously, faster than any human being can, holds the gear I choose to redline, and gives me every bit as much "engagement" as an MT. And when I'm stuck on freeways around Seattle creeping along at 2 to 20 mph I'm more than willing to let the transmission decide which gear to use. The only "engagement" I miss is downshifting automatically to second and then to first gear when I come to a stop. The DSG does that automatically and I don't miss the excitement of doing it myself. :)
@@stephenhendricks103 Great points. I have to get over the notion that I've lost some important aspect of driving when looking at a DSG equipped vehicle. The GTI is so much more than manual shifting, honestly, considering its handling, ample power for suburban driving, smooth highway (relative to my current compact car) travel and hatch-enabled utility.
I own a 2018 GTI DSG Autobahn trim that I purchased last year when I replaced a much loved 2013 MK6 version with a Stage I APR tune. Had 70K miles on the MK6, the last GTI on the old platform and the last version built in Germany. My MK6 was trouble free including 30K miles with the Stage I (APR) tune. The 2018 model built in Mexico on the MQB platform has likewise been trouble free while being tighter, quieter, and somewhat quicker than my (untuned) MK6 version. I could go on and on about my impressions but I'll try to restrain myself to a few comments. () The difference between the 2018 and 2019 models comes down to a seventh gear in the DSG and the addition of Golf R brakes to lower trim levels. (They were already a feature of the 2018 Autobahn trim.) The additional gear does nothing for performance; it was added primarily to make the automatic shifts slightly less noticeable and to improve highway fuel efficiency by an mpg, or so. The eight HP bump is mainly marketing-speak, possibly resulting from a difference in the calculation of HP. In any case it's virtually invisible even on a dyno. And of course with even the mildest ECU tune, it disappears completely. No criticism intended. VW needed some bells and whistles for 2019 while waiting for the 2020 MK8 generation but an 8 HP bump, even if it exists, is simply not an issue. () Trim levels for the GTI in North America are often confusing. Never more so than in 2019. The Rabbit is a limited edition in the US slotted between the S and SE trim levels. It's apparently just a separate trim level in Canada with no limit set and there are no "S" or "SE" trim levels. The plain GTI appears to correspond to the US "S" trim. The Rabbit comes with Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) which is apparently not available (or not mentioned) for the upper Autobahn trim. (It was standard on the Autobahn in 2018.) My guess is that this all has to do with some parts availability issues and will disappear once those are resolved and the supply of the supposed "limited" edition Rabbit is exhausted. The fact that the Rabbit sticker is now sent to a US purchaser rather than placed on the car at the factory suggests a buyer should check the exact specifications of the model to see just what is included in the "Rabbit" they're considering. () GTI vs Golf R. It's often noted that a Golf R is only "a few thousand dollars" more than the top trim GTI. In my experience that's very misleading. In the first place finding a Golf R in the US can be difficult. (That's apparently not true in Canada.) And when I was shopping dealers routinely applied "market adjustment" stickers to the few Golf R's available that made the real world difference in price $10,000 or more. Second, while the R is far more powerful than the GTI, it's also about 200 lbs heavier. That's like putting an NFL cornerback in the back seat. The GTI is considerably more nimble as a result and the performance difference can be significantly reduced by adding a Stage I tune to the GTI. (That's especially true for the DSG equipped GTI's that don't require a periodic clutch replacement to handle the additional power.) Both the GTI and the Golf R are magnificent machines imo but in my case I decided that a $10,000 price difference was a bridge too far. () All in all, I'm a long time VW fan. I drove a '61 Beetle in high school, two Rabbits (when all Golfs in the US were called Rabbits) in the '70's and more recently two GTI's. When I was shopping last year I also considered the larger Accord 2.0L turbo and the Mazda6 2.5L turbo. Each is an impressive vehicle. But when I drove the MK7.5 GTI, I was at home. There are quicker and less expensive "hot hatches." But for all round driving enjoyment combined with versatility, I don't think the GTI can be beat.
@Private Eyes It's important to keep in mind that a top trim Autobahn GTI has an MSRP well over $50,000 in Germany at current exchange rates. That's not a price US consumers are willing to pay. I purchased my 2018 Autobahn VW for $32,000. VW isn't alone in tailoring the features of their vehicles to a price point in particular markets In fact, it's a common practice.
Buyer beware, there is a serious stalling issues in the 2019 GTIs and Jettas. I belong to a forum where there were hundreds of people who had a stalling issue and VWOA still doesn't have a solution. I just completed a buyback for this very vehicle. My suggestion, wait until a recall is announced.
@@sm1else my ecu was reset as well but it kept occurring. It was a production line defect. Some cars had the same thing done and months later the issue came back. I ended going through a buy back claim got my money back and got a 17 golf r. No regrets.
The best daily car on the market in my opinion, depending on your climate. I may be down in Florida near the end of July Joe, we may have to link up so you can see what that 400 hp R can do with the dsg.
Honest question...how do the alignments hold up on these cars? I have a 2012 Volkswagen CC and if you even look at the car wrong, the alignment goes way out of wack. It's a known issue that these cars come from the factory with some alignment problems in the design (cups tires, toe goes out with a hint of wind, etc). Want to buy another Volkswagen, but do NOT want another car with garbage alignment issues.
@@thecure3665 I understand. Despite my comment, my family and I take trips and transport guests primarily in our KIA Sorento. Saw the Arteon in person for the first time last week. A gorgeous automobile. VW doesn't expect to sell many in the US. My dealer has been allocated only two for the rest of 2019. Good luck.
Veloster will never be able to keep up with this car. Both in parts and structural integrity. Not to mention Hyundais fail on that 3 door idea and their bloated price tag for the N model. Im not against Hyundai, but VW wins. Of coarse, by opinion.
@@shannos9604 ive heard of a few dealerships marking up more than they should. I think there's a couple TH-cam vids about it. In all honesty, idk how accurate that is. Im 36 and have wanted a VW R since I can remember, so im just a big fan.
I gotta be honest. Joe Raiti’s reviews from 2 plus years ago, like this one here, are much more polished, well put together and dare I say, professional…? I’m no psychologist but there’s a duality going on with Joe Raiti. Watch this video and then watch the one he posted today or yesterday. It’s not even the same person! Amazing transformation I must say
awesome ride. Alot of similarities to my 15 Jetta. You zonked the dual climate control...which I have and never use. Also electric seats just add cost to the vehicle. VW's have always had awesome seats, even the manual. I'd like to see more Rabbit badging. Rabbit was my first car at 16! peace out
You're right Joe, those tail lights lights are the best in the business by far!! I also like the fog light design as well. Another thing the GTI/ Volks wagen does well is their steering wheel & seats as you pointed out.
Hit one of those pesky speed bumps going around 70 and let us see the Rabbit Edition hop a little! :-P Just kidding... but a good thing you know your way around one of my old neighborhoods in Tampa, and knew where those irritating speed bumps were. As usual... great review, my friend!
Great work as always and like the minor but significant updates on new GTI. Thanks for the detail overview. Just curious how is your Focus RS doing after a bit of time owning. Any thought on long term ownership compared to your long term ownership of Civic Type R. Sorry to be off topic.
The Focus RS is doing great. I haven't had any major issues besides a headlight needed to be replaced. She still pulls hard. The interior is getting very noisy.
@@RaitisRides Thats good to hear I am contemplating one bu the head gasket issue concerned me a little. Im checking local machine shops as would prefer to do myself in the event it fails but have read not all units have had issues. Thanks for your time and great channel sire.
Love this review! Love this GTI Joe. I even like the 7 speed DSG....DID I actually just say that? No sunroof is a major zonk! I have to have my sunroof. Once you get used to having one you can’t live without it. One more thing. Don’t you think the HP is underrated in these GTI’s? They are awfully quick for 228 HP and 258ftlbs of torque.
@Raiti's Rides; Joe, I have loved the GTI since it’s inception in 1984. That’s my senior year of High School,!! Absolutely the GTI was the original and in Type R form arguably the best Hot Hatch built to this day. My problem with Volkswagen and actually any German car in general is I’m scared of their reliability or lack of it. Please tell me if my fears are unfounded for say a GTI built within the past five years. Thx Joe. One more thing: 100K SUBS was the goal for 2019. You are going to destroy that goal. At the rate your going you will achieve 100K by summers end! You are THE example of how hard work pays off. You deserve it my friend. 🤘🏼🥳🖖🏻
The addition of the seventh gear to the DSG transmission results in slightly different behavior with more narrow spacing of gear ratios. If you don't care for it, it's easy to reprogram the shift points via a 30 minute "tune."
VW GTI is great car and great video. However I think it’s overpriced if you compare it to the new Hyundai Velster N. Especially if you get the autobahn edition
Great video:-):-) as always. Watched all your videos on golf r and golf Fri and gti rabbit.. will buy golf r. Thanks. is vw golf reliable and are they built solid????
The thing is.. next year they'll have a brand new car. Buying one now instead of waiting is a bad idea when the new one will be so much better. But feel free if you must.
I was also in the same position as you. Really for me it came down to the long term decision. My reasoning for choosing the GTI over the WRX, was practicality. The hatchback was just a win for me over a sedan. If Subaru still made a WRX hatch, I probably would have chosen other wise. In my opinion, the GTI is a nicer place to sit as well, feels much more high quality to me, especially on the long road trips, which the GTI absolutely kills. You just can't beat the German build quality, it is really something else. I also got a very good warranty with mine, but that might differ for you. I have owned mine for about 4 months, and I have loved every second of it. Definitely don't regret my decision!
There is absolutely nothing close to this car in value when you consider price, aftermarket, performance capability, practicality, comfort, interior quality
VW limits the range of GTI's in the US in a number of ways compared to Europe. The easy answer to your question is that neither dealers nor VW want to see 2 door GTI's sitting unsold on dealer lots.
How good is this car in the winter? Ground clearance is only a hair over 5". Also, the front valance is slung low. Of course, equipped with winter tires. We get some very serious deep snow in Ontario Canada, especially for folks living in rural areas. Snow plows are few and far between. They show up eventually, say 72 hours later. No one ever talks about winter usage of this car.
I have an 18 SE, love it. Kinda bland and tame stock compared to the ‘08 STI I had before.. Hard to zonk anything on this car though, it kinda does everything well.. The one zonk I have though is the sound, it sounds like a fart cannon with an exhaust even (keeping the stock pipes... 😑)... Miss that boxer rumble every day, however the GTI is such a better daily, I can’t complain too much!! 😄
Ferdi Sanchez all depends on your climate, up north, R, down south, gti. Or if you’re like me and you gotta have the best car in the lineup, R. Lol I got the R while living in Florida. I was addicted to the potential of this engine with dsg and awd. 11.85 in the 1/4 mile stage 2 downpipe only, just surreal. Gti can be fast too tho, stage 2 gti can get down there in the low to mid 12’s
Both are great cars. But the oft made claim that a Golf R is "only a few thousand dollars more than a top trim GTI" is misleading in my experience, at least in the US. (Apparently it's different in Canada where R's are much more commonly available.) When I was shopping a little less than a year ago only 3 of the 6 dealers in the Seattle area I consulted had even one R on their lots. And two of the three wanted between $2K and $3K over the $41K sticker price. The other dealer was willing to sell their R (a pre-order that was declined when it arrived) at MSRP but it was gone in 24 hours to a buyer who traveled a thousand miles to buy it. Considering that I bought a fully loaded DSG Autobahn GTI for $32K plus TTL, that made the difference at least $10,000. In addition, the Golf R outweighs the GTI by about 250 lbs. That's like carrying around an NFL linebacker in the back seat. The R's additional power compensates for that on straightaways but the GTI is considerably more nimble, especially on a tight track or on backroads where the additional power of the R either can't be exploited or can land you in jail (or in the hospital). Furthermore, the R's 4Motion AWD is engaged only when slip is detected in the front wheels. Otherwise, it's a FWD vehicle. That doesn't eliminate its value but on a dry road with good tires, it's not likely to be an important differentiating factor. In messy conditions the R's AWD has an advantage but a good set of winter tires on a GTI will perform just about as well in snow about 95% of the time. Third, the huge HP/Torque advantage of a stock R can be reduced substantially with a Stage I ECU tune for a price of about $700. And despite claims to the contrary it doesn't invalidate the vehicle's warranty unless a problem can be traced to the effects of the tune. And on that score, a GTI with a DSG doesn't have to have a periodic clutch upgrade/replacement to cope with the additional power. Finally, the Autobahn GTI has a standard sunroof that's not available at all on the Golf R (presumably to make driving on a track with a helmet easier). That might be a small issue for many (or even a disadvantage) but living in Seattle we need all the light we can get in an otherwise very dark cabin. I wouldn't criticize anyone who purchases an R over a GTI. Different strokes for different folks. But for me the GTI was the better choice.
I love it! It looks great in white! You don’t need a sunroof. Mine creaks! I still love my 2018 Autobahn. It’s so much fun to drive! I only wish I had those black Pretoria wheels instead of mine! The brakes are solid! Especially when stopping on I4 traffic.
great car but save for repairs. nothing like buying 6 new vws in 9 years, and when your headunit goes out on a 16 golf R at 30k miles, they won't cover it. $2500 later its fixed. Sold the car. Lost a faithful customer.
@@RaitisRides I only put 11k miles on the car in two years and this is how I'm treated. I'm driving my wife's GLI while I find the perfect fit. I'm all over the place. I'd like to make a lateral move price wise, or save some money. Boxster s, abarth 500, Alfa Romeo... I miss the hell out of my R but just on principle alone, I'm not dealing with Volkswagen for a while. Had this of been an 18, I'd have a 7 year warranty, so that kind of changes things for the future. Now mind you the last 4 we bought new, we had no problems with. 0-65k we've been trouble free with regular maintenance.
Furthermore, one of the best features of the GTI is the sliding and ratcheting armrest. I'm puzzled as to why more manufacturers don't adopt the design. It's extremely beneficial for those with different arm lengths.
FYI: I miss typed the contact person's last name. It's Zaq Berridge at Reeves VW.
I promise it’s a 2019 😂
I doubt anyone noticed.
Except Zaq.
Zaq is the one who sold me my R 3 & 1/2 years ago. I definitely recommend him to anyone looking to buy a car at Reeves.
The best looking hatch for sure in the US.
I am so glad that I could share this one with you!
@@RaitisRides keep up the good work, hit 100000 by Dec!!!
You spelt mazdaspeed3 wrong
Hell no
Honestly this car is phenomenal for what is it. If you're someone who wants an automatic over a manual I can't think of a better combination of practicality and performance sub 40k.
Sub 35K*
DSG Golf Rs can be gotten for 39K and manuals for 38K. Just gotta find the right dealer and be in the USA.
I got my 16 r two years ago with 21k miles for 31k.
@@thexetmes Volk's usa site says $41000usd manual , $42000usd auto . Australia Dsg with taxes $55000aud
@@thexetmes there isn't $3000 profit in a $40000usd new car
Love my GTI... I had a bmw 335i and Mercedes C320 and none were exciting like my GTI. I had a Jetta GLI and love that car too
Oh how do I love the VW GTI! I wish I had time to count all the ways. This baby is my numero uno for the best hot hatch and overall car in the under $35K segment. Haters- don't start nagging me about reliability, et., al. Go spend some time in the GTI and if you have even an inkling of a driver's bone in your body, you will get this vehicle. I spent quite some time in this vehicle as a rental and absolutely loved it!! Great review Joe Raiti!
Thanks for the great input Dexter! You hit all the nails on the head. I really appreciate your compliment!
Love my 2021 Autobahn. It's my fourth Rabbit. Buy with confidence as this car is the perfect blend of performance and practicality.
I got a Tornado Red 2021 SE in manual with the 18 inch black Pretoria rims like on the Rabbit. Has more than enough gizmos for me and I had a good deal. I already had to modify it with a lower engine mount insert to reduce engine movement. The lower mount makes the engine shift around way too much with the manual.
You have an exceptional eye for detail! I thoroughly enjoyed this review. Now I want a flipping VW.
Me 2!!!
This is a great review! I love the 2017-2019 VW GTI. You gave this car the respect it deserves! Kudos to you Joe. Kudos to you.
Thanks Dexter for letting me share it with you and your awesome words!
Joe I had 3 GTI's back in the 80's, an 84, 85 and 87. Back then they were all 2 dr and 5 speeds only. No 4 dr or autos. They were built in PA, my state, and the first was white, second was red, third was blue! How patriotic! The 79 Rabbit was first built in PA and too Americanized! But when the 83 Rabbit GTI was introduced here, 76 in Germany as the Golf GTI, it had an American interior, but not bad and was a blast to drive. It gave me some tickets!!! Like the new ones it has a decent amount of room for people and luggage. They have been very popular in Europe, especially Germany, Italy and England. They were also reliable unlike the latter Mexican models. Also decent on gas. Finally in Europe they even made some GTI Cabrios and Sportwagens, Not to mention the Sportwagen Golf R!
The so-called "Mexican" models of the GTI are both better built and more reliable than their predecessors from Germany. Robots know no nationality.
@@stephenhendricks103 not according to the people who have bought the Mexican cars! Is that why VW had mentioned moving production of the Golfs back to Europe. The Mexican models of other brands have also been problematic. Good luck if you think different Senior!!!
@@stephenhendricks103 By the way the robots don't build 100% of the car in case you didn't know!
@@davemcguigan218 Having owned both the last MK6 GTI built in Germany and a MK7.5 GTI built in Mexico I'd maintain that the 7.5 version on the MQB platform is significantly superior in build quality. As to why VW is considering moving production of Golfs to Germany, manufacturers make those kinds of decisions for many reasons. In the case of the Golf it may well be that VW wants to ramp up production of the Jetta in Mexico because that is their volume model in the US while the base Golf sells so poorly that they are considering discontinuing it in the US. It makes little sense to build Golfs in Mexico if it isn't even sold in the US.
BTW, if you're going to proclaim your expertise about Mexican auto production, you should probably learn to spell "Senor."
@@stephenhendricks103 Then by all means go right ahead and buy all the Mexican cars your heart desires. I am not the only one who feels this way. If you look on the internet there are people who get quite angry about VW and Mexico built cars. The Brazilian Fox was also just as bad. And I guess you are the quality expert saying Mexican cars are fantastic. Keep drinking the Kool Aid "Senor" Sorry I am not Spanish, maybe you are!
Great review. My first GTI was the 84, and I’ve loved them ever since. Still can’t get my head around a 4 door GTI thought. ;-). Appreciate your great reviews.
That is so cool that you the original! I really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
I never was much of a VW fan but that looks like it would be a fun to drive and versatile car. The seats remind of the 1970’s. Back then I think it was AMC that had denim seats in some of their cars. Good job Joe! Have a great weekend! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Just bought my wife a rabbit Gti in cornflower blue. She loves it. I'm not even telling her I'm throwing a Jb1 and wheel spacers on it hehe
Congrats on the new GTI! It's a great car!
Love my GTI... I had a bmw 335i and Mercedes C320 and none were exciting like my GTI. I had a Jetta GLI and love that car too
Just bought a GTI S. What an amazing car. This is my car forever.
Love my GTI... I had a bmw 335i and Mercedes C320 and none were exciting like my GTI. I had a Jetta GLI and love that car too
How's the reliability?
I just purchased a white gti rabbit two months ago. I love it. Another great vid.
Congrats on your new GTI!
How’s the car? Thinking of picking same model.
I agree with the cloth arm rests. however, I owned a Golf TDI for 6 years and it had the same cloth armrests. They were surprisingly resilient and easy to clear, so I wouldn't worry about the cloth...
Just bought this exact car (all black). Gotta say it’s definitely BY FAR the best car I’ve ever owned! I didn’t even know that this has the same breaks as a Golf R 🤯, probably why it feels so “sporty” compared to others. I couldn’t imagine spending money on an SE or Autobahn tbh. You may get things like a sunroof and leather seats but personally I prefer the traditional plaid cloth seats (which are still heated) and for the price of an Autobahn trim you might as well get a Golf R.
The autobahn has cloth seats
@@jakeklein1239 not here in the US. Autobahn is the highest trim available here. Cloth is only available in the S trim
@@TWOhype23 im in canada Idk
@@TWOhype23 and autobahn is the highest here
@@jakeklein1239must be different then
The DSG is a very tempting option in the GTI, but the MT is really smooth / easy to use and I think would be fine in daily traffic. I rarely adjust my seat once things are configured so, I have no issue with the combo electric manual controls. The rabbit has a really good feature set with the LED lighting and the keyless entry / fob -- two high value options for me. BUT the older radio v. the newer unit found in the SE and Autobahn is disappointing. I've found the faux leather seating to be really hot against my body, almost uncomfortably so, so the cloth is probably a better option. I wish that the GTI in the States had synthetic suede centers on the seats.
I'd driven many, many years with at least one MT vehicle in my garage before I bought a DSG GTI in 2013. When I replaced it with a MK7.5 GTI last year I didn't hesitate to choose a DSG version again. I'd estimate that I drive in manual mode more than 50% of the time, choosing the gear I want with the paddle shifters or by clicking the stick on the center console. It shifts virtually instantaneously, faster than any human being can, holds the gear I choose to redline, and gives me every bit as much "engagement" as an MT. And when I'm stuck on freeways around Seattle creeping along at 2 to 20 mph I'm more than willing to let the transmission decide which gear to use. The only "engagement" I miss is downshifting automatically to second and then to first gear when I come to a stop. The DSG does that automatically and I don't miss the excitement of doing it myself. :)
@@stephenhendricks103 Great points. I have to get over the notion that I've lost some important aspect of driving when looking at a DSG equipped vehicle. The GTI is so much more than manual shifting, honestly, considering its handling, ample power for suburban driving, smooth highway (relative to my current compact car) travel and hatch-enabled utility.
The GTi and the -R are my two favorite hatchbacks. Nice Review.
Same here Hans! I am excited for the Mk8!
Thank you for doing a review on this exact spec of a rabbit GTI without the experience pack.
You got it!
I own a 2018 GTI DSG Autobahn trim that I purchased last year when I replaced a much loved 2013 MK6 version with a Stage I APR tune. Had 70K miles on the MK6, the last GTI on the old platform and the last version built in Germany. My MK6 was trouble free including 30K miles with the Stage I (APR) tune. The 2018 model built in Mexico on the MQB platform has likewise been trouble free while being tighter, quieter, and somewhat quicker than my (untuned) MK6 version. I could go on and on about my impressions but I'll try to restrain myself to a few comments.
() The difference between the 2018 and 2019 models comes down to a seventh gear in the DSG and the addition of Golf R brakes to lower trim levels. (They were already a feature of the 2018 Autobahn trim.) The additional gear does nothing for performance; it was added primarily to make the automatic shifts slightly less noticeable and to improve highway fuel efficiency by an mpg, or so. The eight HP bump is mainly marketing-speak, possibly resulting from a difference in the calculation of HP. In any case it's virtually invisible even on a dyno. And of course with even the mildest ECU tune, it disappears completely. No criticism intended. VW needed some bells and whistles for 2019 while waiting for the 2020 MK8 generation but an 8 HP bump, even if it exists, is simply not an issue.
() Trim levels for the GTI in North America are often confusing. Never more so than in 2019. The Rabbit is a limited edition in the US slotted between the S and SE trim levels. It's apparently just a separate trim level in Canada with no limit set and there are no "S" or "SE" trim levels. The plain GTI appears to correspond to the US "S" trim. The Rabbit comes with Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) which is apparently not available (or not mentioned) for the upper Autobahn trim. (It was standard on the Autobahn in 2018.) My guess is that this all has to do with some parts availability issues and will disappear once those are resolved and the supply of the supposed "limited" edition Rabbit is exhausted. The fact that the Rabbit sticker is now sent to a US purchaser rather than placed on the car at the factory suggests a buyer should check the exact specifications of the model to see just what is included in the "Rabbit" they're considering.
() GTI vs Golf R. It's often noted that a Golf R is only "a few thousand dollars" more than the top trim GTI. In my experience that's very misleading. In the first place finding a Golf R in the US can be difficult. (That's apparently not true in Canada.) And when I was shopping dealers routinely applied "market adjustment" stickers to the few Golf R's available that made the real world difference in price $10,000 or more. Second, while the R is far more powerful than the GTI, it's also about 200 lbs heavier. That's like putting an NFL cornerback in the back seat. The GTI is considerably more nimble as a result and the performance difference can be significantly reduced by adding a Stage I tune to the GTI. (That's especially true for the DSG equipped GTI's that don't require a periodic clutch replacement to handle the additional power.) Both the GTI and the Golf R are magnificent machines imo but in my case I decided that a $10,000 price difference was a bridge too far.
() All in all, I'm a long time VW fan. I drove a '61 Beetle in high school, two Rabbits (when all Golfs in the US were called Rabbits) in the '70's and more recently two GTI's. When I was shopping last year I also considered the larger Accord 2.0L turbo and the Mazda6 2.5L turbo. Each is an impressive vehicle. But when I drove the MK7.5 GTI, I was at home. There are quicker and less expensive "hot hatches." But for all round driving enjoyment combined with versatility, I don't think the GTI can be beat.
Man Stephen you brought the best info on your comment! Thank you for sharing that I really appreciate it!
@@RaitisRides Thanks, Joe. Your reviews are always both entertaining and informative. I try not to miss a one.
@Private Eyes It's important to keep in mind that a top trim Autobahn GTI has an MSRP well over $50,000 in Germany at current exchange rates. That's not a price US consumers are willing to pay. I purchased my 2018 Autobahn VW for $32,000. VW isn't alone in tailoring the features of their vehicles to a price point in particular markets In fact, it's a common practice.
Miss seeing bbs recaro combos on the Gti. The day vw puts together something as special as the 20th anniversary I will jump on it ASAP
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Great video of the GTI. Appreciate you bringing this to us!
You are so very welcome! Thanks for watching!
Nice review. There is no other car that has the same vibe and feel as the GTI
Buyer beware, there is a serious stalling issues in the 2019 GTIs and Jettas. I belong to a forum where there were hundreds of people who had a stalling issue and VWOA still doesn't have a solution. I just completed a buyback for this very vehicle. My suggestion, wait until a recall is announced.
Thanks for sharing that info! I hope it gets resolved!
Ok negative Nancy. Hope your lemon worked out for you.
@@1338-c9s Keep scrolling
Mine started stalling the day I drove it off the lot. Resetting the ECU did the trick. VW was great about it.
@@sm1else my ecu was reset as well but it kept occurring. It was a production line defect. Some cars had the same thing done and months later the issue came back. I ended going through a buy back claim got my money back and got a 17 golf r. No regrets.
I really like VW Golf GTI Rabbit Edition, I think it looks great and sounds amazing. Thanks Joe.
I love it as well! It comes in great colors too!
Jay Patel you spelt WRX STI wrong...
Joe you know how I feel about GTI's. Just did a is38 turbo swap on my 2017 sport. Whole new level.
Yes sir Dean! You have one mean machine!
The best daily car on the market in my opinion, depending on your climate. I may be down in Florida near the end of July Joe, we may have to link up so you can see what that 400 hp R can do with the dsg.
That would be awesome!
Honest question...how do the alignments hold up on these cars? I have a 2012 Volkswagen CC and if you even look at the car wrong, the alignment goes way out of wack. It's a known issue that these cars come from the factory with some alignment problems in the design (cups tires, toe goes out with a hint of wind, etc). Want to buy another Volkswagen, but do NOT want another car with garbage alignment issues.
Thanks for the video. I never paid attention to VWs, but your detailed review has changed that. BTW you need "Zonk" t-shirts lol.
Thanks for saying that! I am actually trying to get a graphic designer to make some!
I can very easily see myself buying this once I need to replace my FiST. Thanks for the review @Raiti's Rides
You are so very welcome! It sucks Ford is not doing the FIST anymore here in the USA.
This is a nice car , handling is superb . I drove one , not on my list since it's too small for a family car .. great review Joe .
Depends on the size of the family. My wife and I, our teenage daughter and our big dog fit nicely in our GTI.
@@stephenhendricks103 seems small but big inside, still doesn't fit for daily use . I'm going for the arteon most probably
@@thecure3665 I understand. Despite my comment, my family and I take trips and transport guests primarily in our KIA Sorento. Saw the Arteon in person for the first time last week. A gorgeous automobile. VW doesn't expect to sell many in the US. My dealer has been allocated only two for the rest of 2019. Good luck.
You are so very right! Thanks for the compliment!
Thanks for sharing that great input!
Would you prefer the GTI or the Veloster N??
GTi all day
My heart says GTI, but my mind says Veloster N, so sorry heart but my vote is Veloster N all the way!! Woo Hoo!!!
Veloster will never be able to keep up with this car. Both in parts and structural integrity. Not to mention Hyundais fail on that 3 door idea and their bloated price tag for the N model. Im not against Hyundai, but VW wins. Of coarse, by opinion.
It can't rain all the time are they over pricing the veloster N?
@@shannos9604 ive heard of a few dealerships marking up more than they should. I think there's a couple TH-cam vids about it. In all honesty, idk how accurate that is. Im 36 and have wanted a VW R since I can remember, so im just a big fan.
I own the Urano grey rabbit and I love it. Just tuned it as well and it’s hella fun
Do Honda Civic Si, Ford Focus ST, & Mini JCW drivers sing 'Kill The Wabbit' when they see a GTI?
Lol
Uh no.
This would be the perfect GTI if it had a decent sound system. No satellite radio is just ridiculous.
I totally agree with you!
Great review Joe !!!. I traded in my 2018 VW Beetle convertible for the GTI Rabbit white edition. What a blast to drive !.
I love my MK7. Fastest car I’ve ever owned
They are great! I am so curious what is VW going to do for the Mk8!
Raiti's Rides i threw a bigger turbo on mine so it flies!
I gotta be honest. Joe Raiti’s reviews from 2 plus years ago, like this one here, are much more polished, well put together and dare I say, professional…? I’m no psychologist but there’s a duality going on with Joe Raiti. Watch this video and then watch the one he posted today or yesterday. It’s not even the same person! Amazing transformation I must say
If I was in the market for a GTI right now, this is the one I want
I totally agree with you!
awesome ride. Alot of similarities to my 15 Jetta. You zonked the dual climate control...which I have and never use. Also electric seats just add cost to the vehicle. VW's have always had awesome seats, even the manual. I'd like to see more Rabbit badging. Rabbit was my first car at 16! peace out
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
Bought my MK5 from Reeves in '08, they did me right
They are a great establishment!
You're right Joe, those tail lights lights are the best in the business by far!! I also like the fog light design as well. Another thing the GTI/ Volks wagen does well is their steering wheel & seats as you pointed out.
Thanks Greg for letting me share it with you!
The GTI is a amazing car!!
Its Feb 2020, just saw this, killer little car, are they still making the RabbitGTI?
Ohhh I miss my GTI.. Funnest car I ever had! Pained me to sell it.
They are a blast!
Whyd you sell it
Hit one of those pesky speed bumps going around 70 and let us see the Rabbit Edition hop a little! :-P
Just kidding... but a good thing you know your way around one of my old neighborhoods in Tampa, and knew where those irritating speed bumps were.
As usual... great review, my friend!
I love your video but what about doing videos comparing GTI to N series Hyundai. That would be great video.
Thank you for the compliment! I will try to get that together!
Fantastic Joe! Love to see you do a Rabbit/Golf R compare!
Thanks for saying that! I am trying to get that together!
Great work as always and like the minor but significant updates on new GTI. Thanks for the detail overview. Just curious how is your Focus RS doing after a bit of time owning. Any thought on long term ownership compared to your long term ownership of Civic Type R. Sorry to be off topic.
The Focus RS is doing great. I haven't had any major issues besides a headlight needed to be replaced. She still pulls hard. The interior is getting very noisy.
@@RaitisRides Thats good to hear I am contemplating one bu the head gasket issue concerned me a little. Im checking local machine shops as would prefer to do myself in the event it fails but have read not all units have had issues. Thanks for your time and great channel sire.
Love this review! Love this GTI Joe. I even like the 7 speed DSG....DID I actually just say that? No sunroof is a major zonk! I have to have my sunroof. Once you get used to having one you can’t live without it. One more thing. Don’t you think the HP is underrated in these GTI’s? They are awfully quick for 228 HP and 258ftlbs of torque.
I really can't believe you are saying all the things you like about this GTI. Maybe your next car?
@Raiti's Rides; Joe, I have loved the GTI since it’s inception in 1984. That’s my senior year of High School,!! Absolutely the GTI was the original and in Type R form arguably the best Hot Hatch built to this day. My problem with Volkswagen and actually any German car in general is I’m scared of their reliability or lack of it. Please tell me if my fears are unfounded for say a GTI built within the past five years. Thx Joe.
One more thing: 100K SUBS was the goal for 2019. You are going to destroy that goal. At the rate your going you will achieve 100K by summers end! You are THE example of how hard work pays off. You deserve it my friend. 🤘🏼🥳🖖🏻
Great video. Funny enough, I was online shopping Reeves' website today for GTIs since I'm local.
Joe- did I miss the MSRP? Great job as always- 100k around the corner!
$31,000
Greg Holman -wow!
Oh yeah great a review on a golf gti awesome guys next a another mustang please 🤟🏽
We are waiting on some Mustang inventory!
Yes. I'm thinking about getting one. But heard the DCG is a little slower compared to the 16s
The addition of the seventh gear to the DSG transmission results in slightly different behavior with more narrow spacing of gear ratios. If you don't care for it, it's easy to reprogram the shift points via a 30 minute "tune."
That is a very interesting point!
Thanks for sharing the great GTI info!
Id like to see more hot hatchbacks and honda's ty Raiti's always good reviews from you guys :)
There is more to come so stay tuned!
VW GTI is great car and great video. However I think it’s overpriced if you compare it to the new Hyundai Velster N. Especially if you get the autobahn edition
I totally get your point! Thank you for sharing your perspective!
Dual climate control and full power seats come on the Autobahn trim. The Rabbit Edition falls between the S and the SE.
You are 100% correct!
Great video:-):-) as always. Watched all your videos on golf r and golf Fri and gti rabbit.. will buy golf r. Thanks. is vw golf reliable and are they built solid????
The thing is.. next year they'll have a brand new car. Buying one now instead of waiting is a bad idea when the new one will be so much better. But feel free if you must.
does it throw you back in your seat on full throttle?
It gives you a nice jolt.
Damn those Vultures! I can feel an Arteon review coming...I feel it, I feel it!
Possibly! ;-)
That gti doesn't have the virtual cluster and media player
Is that an option on these 7.5?
Yes it is!
The virtual cockpit is only available on the golf R in North America.
Apparently the Golf Mark VIII will only be sold in the GTI and Golf R trims in the US.
It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
I’m deciding between the wrx and a gti for my first car. I feel like gti will be a better first car. Any suggestions?
I was also in the same position as you. Really for me it came down to the long term decision. My reasoning for choosing the GTI over the WRX, was practicality. The hatchback was just a win for me over a sedan. If Subaru still made a WRX hatch, I probably would have chosen other wise. In my opinion, the GTI is a nicer place to sit as well, feels much more high quality to me, especially on the long road trips, which the GTI absolutely kills. You just can't beat the German build quality, it is really something else. I also got a very good warranty with mine, but that might differ for you. I have owned mine for about 4 months, and I have loved every second of it. Definitely don't regret my decision!
Kratos58gt thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS 💯
That really means so much!
How tall is Raiti? This car looks absolutely teenie next to him
There is absolutely nothing close to this car in value when you consider price, aftermarket, performance capability, practicality, comfort, interior quality
Why there is no 2doors in us ? Thanks
VW limits the range of GTI's in the US in a number of ways compared to Europe. The easy answer to your question is that neither dealers nor VW want to see 2 door GTI's sitting unsold on dealer lots.
They don't really sell in the USA.
You are so very right!
Love my 2 door MK6 Golf. 2.5L engine is perfect.
I like this channel he review cars that i can buy haha
How good is this car in the winter? Ground clearance is only a hair over 5". Also, the front valance is slung low. Of course, equipped with winter tires. We get some very serious deep snow in Ontario Canada, especially for folks living in rural areas. Snow plows are few and far between. They show up eventually, say 72 hours later. No one ever talks about winter usage of this car.
I think the Golf R might be the better option!
Also the black wheels rock!
AGREED!
Civic needs to take notes
Thanks David for sharing your input!
We aren't going to Zonk it for that weird silver trim on the rear bumper?!
That was an optional piece! I don't like it.
Christopher Palmer it’s a dealer-installed accessory. To protect the bumper when taking stuff out of the trunk
It's function is there. Just looks tacky.
Get the mudflaps. They saved my wheels from curbs and keep my fenders clean.
Why didn’t they include the digital cockpit
I guess to help keep the price down!
No on noticed he said the car was a 2009? ......
Is it true these have a problem with stalling?
I love history lessons
Thanks for saying that Raul!
Does the rabbit edition comes with performance package?
Yes it does
Put 2 10 inch subwoofers in the back and you got yourself a party lol
I’m strongly considering trading in my STI for one of these
that would be a big mistake
@@daniellocke9534 Different strokes for different folks. The versatility of the GTI is far greater than the STI.
Have you driven one yet?
@@daniellocke9534 I mean the engine is far better. This thing can be tuned to crazy numbers with just a downpipe
Aaron Soto same here brotha
If you lower this car and black out the vw logo, it’s perfect🤩🤩🤩
You have very good taste!
I’m actually looking at getting one of these next summer as I want something more fun over my Mazda3 hatchback.
You will love it Kevin!
I have an 18 SE, love it. Kinda bland and tame stock compared to the ‘08 STI I had before.. Hard to zonk anything on this car though, it kinda does everything well.. The one zonk I have though is the sound, it sounds like a fart cannon with an exhaust even (keeping the stock pipes... 😑)... Miss that boxer rumble every day, however the GTI is such a better daily, I can’t complain too much!! 😄
Great input and I appreciate you sharing your perspective.
I don't know why, but I want to fight this guy. Great video sir.
Thanks Greg!
GTI or Golf R?
Let the games begin.
Ferdi Sanchez all depends on your climate, up north, R, down south, gti. Or if you’re like me and you gotta have the best car in the lineup, R. Lol I got the R while living in Florida. I was addicted to the potential of this engine with dsg and awd. 11.85 in the 1/4 mile stage 2 downpipe only, just surreal. Gti can be fast too tho, stage 2 gti can get down there in the low to mid 12’s
Both are great cars. But the oft made claim that a Golf R is "only a few thousand dollars more than a top trim GTI" is misleading in my experience, at least in the US. (Apparently it's different in Canada where R's are much more commonly available.) When I was shopping a little less than a year ago only 3 of the 6 dealers in the Seattle area I consulted had even one R on their lots. And two of the three wanted between $2K and $3K over the $41K sticker price. The other dealer was willing to sell their R (a pre-order that was declined when it arrived) at MSRP but it was gone in 24 hours to a buyer who traveled a thousand miles to buy it. Considering that I bought a fully loaded DSG Autobahn GTI for $32K plus TTL, that made the difference at least $10,000.
In addition, the Golf R outweighs the GTI by about 250 lbs. That's like carrying around an NFL linebacker in the back seat. The R's additional power compensates for that on straightaways but the GTI is considerably more nimble, especially on a tight track or on backroads where the additional power of the R either can't be exploited or can land you in jail (or in the hospital). Furthermore, the R's 4Motion AWD is engaged only when slip is detected in the front wheels. Otherwise, it's a FWD vehicle. That doesn't eliminate its value but on a dry road with good tires, it's not likely to be an important differentiating factor. In messy conditions the R's AWD has an advantage but a good set of winter tires on a GTI will perform just about as well in snow about 95% of the time.
Third, the huge HP/Torque advantage of a stock R can be reduced substantially with a Stage I ECU tune for a price of about $700. And despite claims to the contrary it doesn't invalidate the vehicle's warranty unless a problem can be traced to the effects of the tune. And on that score, a GTI with a DSG doesn't have to have a periodic clutch upgrade/replacement to cope with the additional power.
Finally, the Autobahn GTI has a standard sunroof that's not available at all on the Golf R (presumably to make driving on a track with a helmet easier). That might be a small issue for many (or even a disadvantage) but living in Seattle we need all the light we can get in an otherwise very dark cabin.
I wouldn't criticize anyone who purchases an R over a GTI. Different strokes for different folks. But for me the GTI was the better choice.
I personally would go with the Golf R!
GTI with a Golf R turbo.
@@stephenhendricks103 Great analysis man.
Is this car reliable?
It has a 6 year warranty if it isn't
Do more Golf R videos....please :)
I will try to track some down for you! They are really hard to come by.
@@RaitisRides Just go buy one already ;)
I love it! It looks great in white! You don’t need a sunroof. Mine creaks! I still love my 2018 Autobahn. It’s so much fun to drive! I only wish I had those black Pretoria wheels instead of mine! The brakes are solid! Especially when stopping on I4 traffic.
Wouldn't want to lose my GTI sunroof. (Doesn't creak.) Around Seattle we need all the light we can get in a dark cabin with black leather upholstery.
Thanks for letting me share this one with you and for you sharing your ownership experience with me!
Thanks for sharing that input Stephen!
Stephen Hendricks I’m in Florida. Sunny and hot here. Also the rainy season this time of year!
Happy your sunroof doesn’t creak. I wish mine didn’t! 😂
I’m trying to decide if I want to get this or wait for the mk8 smh
I would get this Eric!
This is going to be so odd for me to ask LOL, but do you work out? You seem to be in pretty good shape.
Short answer: Yes
Thanks Daniel!
The older vw used to break down a lot are they better now? This is a nice car
This is a really nice car!
Love the rabbit edition especially in cornflower blue but just wish they had given it satellite radio.
I totally agree with you!
great car but save for repairs.
nothing like buying 6 new vws in 9 years, and when your headunit goes out on a 16 golf R at 30k miles, they won't cover it.
$2500 later its fixed. Sold the car. Lost a faithful customer.
That's my biggest concern with a VW. I would love to have either the GTI or GLI for a daily driver but reliability has me holding off.
I am so sorry to hear about that! What did you get instead?
@@RaitisRides I only put 11k miles on the car in two years and this is how I'm treated. I'm driving my wife's GLI while I find the perfect fit.
I'm all over the place. I'd like to make a lateral move price wise, or save some money. Boxster s, abarth 500, Alfa Romeo...
I miss the hell out of my R but just on principle alone, I'm not dealing with Volkswagen for a while. Had this of been an 18, I'd have a 7 year warranty, so that kind of changes things for the future.
Now mind you the last 4 we bought new, we had no problems with. 0-65k we've been trouble free with regular maintenance.
I ca totally understand where you are coming from!
@@RaitisRides and this morning, my wife's 13 GLI ignition switch went out at 51k miles. We don't have a running car.
Love the plaid seats but the excessive side bolstering makes it feel like a prison. Great review.
Thanks for sharing your input and for the compliment!
I’ve had my mk6 GTI since 2011, and the seats have never felt confining to me.
I think you're nit picking bout the cloth on the arm rest.
Furthermore, one of the best features of the GTI is the sliding and ratcheting armrest. I'm puzzled as to why more manufacturers don't adopt the design. It's extremely beneficial for those with different arm lengths.
The GTI will always be an iconic, nostalgic, special and another other adjective one can come up with. Too bad the GTD and GTE won’t rip U.S. roads
No golf r Apr stage 1, done.
Thank you for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
I have a since that you have a passion for the VW Golf GTI or just VW in general. No?
It's "sense" not since". Yes?
Thank you brother.@@gregholman2930
@@mmahtnart8986 No problem, glad I could help!!
How many cents are in a dollar bill? Since I think you may not know, I have sense that you are a dumbass. Comprende? No?@@gregholman2930
Still waiting for that new supra review or a old supra review 😎
I have already covered a couple old Supras. I am still waiting on getting access to the 2020.
@@RaitisRides true but it's my favorite car im sorry what about a 90's RX-7?