Yeah, this show has a lot of symbolism when it relates to Buffy as a character. Giles represents her mind, Willow represents her heart, Xander represents her strength/spirit, etc. Cordelia is meant to represent the question "What if Buffy never became the Slayer?", whereas I believe Kendra is meant to represent the question "What if Buffy was by-the-book? No friends, no social life, no school. Just slaying under her Watcher's thumb.".
most people i've seen talk about the representation, have said that willow represents her spirit, and xander represents her heart. but each to their own i suppose. xander always seems to act out of his emotions - whether through anger or sadness, he never seems to consider the logical side of things. sort of like how the heart tends to be represented in literature. willow is the best friend, the support, the shoulder to cry on when things get bad. she's the first to try and understand buffy's struggles in season 3 when everyone else seemed to be against her and not wanting to talk about it. it seems like the sort of thing her metaphorical spirit would do. idk, each to their own i suppose.
I think it makes sense that Dru has mind control powers. She already was a seer, but as a vampire she's a direct descendant of the Master, so I think that particular power comes from him. This video was really worth the waiting, but now I can't wait for the next one! Thank you so much!!
I hated Xander from the beginning. He was a pig. He had no growth when it came to Angel, and the only reason he hated him was because of his jealousy. He got mildly better as the show progressed, but I never liked him the way I did Cordelia. By season 7 I stopped disliking him. Had he owned up and admitted that the way he acted he was wrong, then I would've liked him. But the fact is, he is never called out on lying to Buffy about Willow about to reensoul Angel and that always dangled on me not liking him. They say he's the heart and soul of the Scooby Gang, but he wasn't.
Cant wait for the next one! Great reaction as always. I forgot there were flash back scenes in this episode so that was a nice treat lol! I always get mad though because the Darla in flashback is so much more regal and in control; so much more “Darla” than the terrible Darla we got in season 1 lol. Any flashback with her, she’s so much “more” than what we got to see in her stupid outfit, with her weird voice and her slavery m-act to the master. Grrrr-arrgh!! But otherwise... ahh... this next episode is just, wow. And into S3!! One of my fav seasons of them all. Eeek! Cant wait!!
I miss Kendra I wish there was time to do more with her character she was so cool imo and her friendship with buffy was cute buffy didn't feel so alone in the world because there was another slayer
amazing reaction. thanks for reacting :) cant wait to see your reaction to the season finale. I cannot believe how much xander was a jerk in this episode. I was always ok with him. but I kinda started to dislike him. in this episode. also spike's comment about the demon rock thing. that was soo funny.
You just got into the buffy fandom. Questioning Angel's accent is a rite of passage all buffy fans must go through. This episode was definitely good and you should know there's a Buffy movie that came out before the show. It's almost nothing like the show but that flashback of Buffy in her other school kinda shows what Buffy is like in the movie. Should also note it's a completely different actress playing Buffy. Xander needs to be defended. Everyone wants to save Angel but Xander understands even if Angel is good, the potential to go bad will always be there and put them all at risk. Xander is the only logical one on the team
I agree about the Xander part but even tho I love Xander I do have to say that I think his reasoning for wanting Angel/Angelus dead is more to do with him being petty than logical. Xander thinks with his emotions (eg. Selfless) and I don't think this episode was an exeption. Still love him tho.
I also agree about the Xander bit. Let's also not forget that Xander has a lot of issues with vampires in general because of what happened with Jesse. Him having to kill Jesse left an impact on him and how he has viewed vampires throughout the rest of the series. Though I do think that his intentions weren't that great (they were likely partially stemming from his jealousy and hatred of Angel), I do think that his point is a logical and truthful one. And sometimes the truth (and logic) hurts. Buffy's response was a purely emotional one, which is totally understandable given not only her age but just the circumstances in general, but that is also very dangerous given her calling and the type of choices she has to make. I think that both options (cursing and re-ensouling him or just straight up killing him) are valid options, one is just more emotional ("me" driven) and the other more logical ("greater good" driven) for Buffy anyway (for Xander the "kill him" option is much more emotionally and "me" driven).
Jessica Canavan I agree with Xander in this situation but I just don’t think, like you said, his intention is to be the logical one. He hates Angel and wants him dead. And I agree about the Jesse thing, wish that was brought up more in the show.
Oh, yes. I agree. Like I said, his intentions weren't logical, they were emotionally based, but his point was logical in and of itself. I also think that Xander went about expressing that point the wrong way, but that stemmed from his emotional connection to the point he was making. About the Jesse thing, it does get brought up....just elsewhere...and that's all I'll say on that because spoilers and whatnot.
Aw Kendra!!!!!!!! All the feels in this emotional episode eh, you're already almost there with the universal cry of Buffy fans ( just missing one word lol) "Joss! Why do you do this to us!!!"
See, I tend to agree more with Xander on this issue. Oh, and you found dirty, old hobo Angel crushing on a 14-15 year-old girl cute? I found it disgusting and horrifying. I mean, even ignoring the 200 years he wasn't there, he's still a 26-year-old man. Not cool, at all. Don't get me wrong, I like Angel as a character, but his whole obsession with Buffy grosses me out.
I don't agree with Xander in this episode, but everything else you said, totally on the nail. Angel 'falling for' 15 year old school girl Buffy while she's sucking a lollipop? Gross. And very stalkery - why wait until a year later in Sunnydale to reveal himself to supposedly help out with the fight against evil? SPOILER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He never tells Buffy that he was spying on her and lusting after her when she was only 15. Grrr.
Buffy was 15 in the 1996 flashback and your right about Angel. He has the body and maturity of a 26 year old becuse Vampires are stuck.in the age they where turned at but Angel. Has two hundred and forty two years on Buffy so he has the body of a 26 year old but is 243 years old or 242 becuse the flashback takes place in 1996 even Ford Buffy childhood friend in Lie to me pointed out Angel looks older than Buffy. And I agree with Xander
Belle Star you’re using today’s morality to judge the past. It wasn’t uncommon at the time and more so the farther you go back. There are laws in each state that give minors as young as 12 in some states the right to marry with a parents permission. And I can assure you it’s not on the books for two twelve year olds to marry. In Angels cares it was very common in his time for older men to marry very young girls. A 15 year old would be a women in his time and they would marry much older men. So it wouldn’t be out of character for him at all.
Fuck this bullshit.A 15 girl is not a child,is not a pedo attraction at all.Women can't just stand our attraction for younger girls. But when YOU have relationship with younger men,everybody needs to be quiet or is a sexist .Ok,sure.Sorry hon ,not every man fall for you bullshit thank god
Dario Fidanza mate I’m a man, and if a 25 yr old had been perving on me when I was 15 it’d have been exactly as wrong as the other way around. Please don’t try and pigeonhole me and please don’t try and have sex with minors. Anyways I’ve kinda changed my mind on this. he’s a centuries old demonic creature so normal dating rules probs don’t quite apply, and he’s clearly only there to provide a fantasy for the teenage (and older) girl demographic. Sarah Michelle geller is so clearly not 16 that it doesn’t feel /that/ creepy.
If Buffy had done something earlier Xander wouldn't have his arm broken, Willow wouldn't have gotten hurt, Giles wouldn't have been taken and Kendra would still be alive. So Xander was the only one speaking sense.
No Diggity, What does that have to do with Xander looking point-blank at Giles and referring to Jenny by saying, "Yeah well she's dead?" That is the only part of the argument I hate because Xander cannot and did not ever apologize to Giles, or anyone else for anything else he ever did for that matter. As for Buffy doing something earlier to make sure her friends were not hurt. The earliest anyone could have done anything smart on the offensive front would have been 'Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered' as that is when Giles and Buffy start studying Angelus. And in that case as well as every episode except 'Passion' their hands were full with other Hellmouth problems. One episode later the Warehouse burned and Buffy doesn't learn where they go until 2x22 which is after this episode. The narrow window of "doing something" would have gotten them all killed as Drusilla saw the future of Angelus' nearly restored soul in that episode. Whose to say everyone wouldn't have ended up dead by 'Passion' long before a hospital trip over events in this episode.
thanatos3378, Actually no he didn't get better eventually. This is just what started my hatred. It continued due to numerous other things. SPOILERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN BEYOND 'BECOMING PART 1' The next episode with the Willow blame continued it. (See the next one if you don't understand). The anger at Buffy in season 3 despite the fact that a lot of her decisions happened because of Xander's "Willow said kick his ass" quote made it worse. Anger issues. Enough said. Name-calling after people tell him not to. Encouraging Buffy to stay with Riley as if Buffy was ENTIRELY in the wrong also didn't help. Cheating and saying he did nothing wrong. Being hypocritical about relationships. Telling Buffy he trusts her at the end of 'Revelation' when everything he did in that episode and all events in the episode could have been avoided if he did trust her. Leaving Anya at the alter only to run to his friends afterwards for an ego boost made me furious. He was the one who should have stood in front of the guests and said there wasn't a wedding. Not the stood up bride. Season seven I thought he was doing better, then he helped kicked Buffy out of the house shortly after giving a speech about how great she was only to tell her when she was back about thinking he should be by her side. Telling Buffy and Willow he doesn't remember his time as a hyena just to avoid an apology he didn't even have to say to begin with or avoid embarrassment. Either way he lied for no reason. But that one was season one and still more annoying, than hating. SPOILERS FOR COMICS Siding with bad guys against Buffy claiming it would save Dawn's life only causing more problems. Not telling the gang he is seeing Anya's dead spirit and thus letting said spirit that isn't really Anya gain an evil foothold on the mortal plain. I'm sure everyone can come up with their own lists for every character they dislike or hate ect., but this is my off the top of my head list for a character I loathe. When a thought in your head at all times towards Xander is that Anya as a vengeance Demon deserves better, you know something is amiss in your feelings towards him.
No Diggity How was he supposedly making sense? His argument is just dumb. Even on purely pragmatic level, obviously resouling Angel would be a huge win for the Scoobies - they take out a big threat without even having to fight him (and it's not like Buffy is guaranteed to be able to kill him otherwise), and gain a potential ally. But Xander is so consumed by hatred for Angel that he's more upset by the idea of Angel potentially not being killed in the end than, you know, him continuing to do evil things and kill more people. And then he dares to bring up Jenny's death - as if he is the one that cares about her so much - to Giles, of all people. That was just gross. Xander was a dick in this scene.
I don't know what version of the show you were watching but the original airing version and the DVD has the year and the location of each flashback show on the screen. Did it show that for you?
This is one of those episodes where Xander really pisses me off lol! It’s Angelus that killed Jenny not Angel. Also if Jenny had just told everyone the truth in the first place all this could have been avoided and she’d most likely still be alive.
It’s kind of the point I think. Everyone is emotional about how they feel and it’s your perspective that forms your morals. He can’t forgive Angel but later seasons he’s fine with women he loves doing the same.
I don't think anyone was 'wrong' in that argument and Angel himself might've agreed with Xander given that he knows full well what Angelus is capable of. Buffy, Willow, and Giles also have a point as souled Angel is a tremendous force for good and a friend and ally.
It reminds me of a conversation on DBZ where Vegeta tells Goku that letting the Gnuyu force go saying if Goku didn't arrive on time krillin and Gohan would have died so Vegeta was using his coman sense. same thing with Xander before the 19th century Angel was a brutal vicious murderer he killed hundreds and thousands. Ruined people's lives including Holtz Drusilla Margert the maid The Gpyspy girl and the people he killed in 1998 after losing his soul again Jenny calendar Travis etc
No it's not insensitive, they have been working on Bufyf to get her able to kill Angel for a long time now and because of this disc there's hope and that's dangerous because it means Buffy might delay.
3:00 the fact that’s the floppy disc Jenny was working is clear is something people have been waiting since passions to be resolved. You got so exited at your lightbulb moment you spoke over the diaglogue of the scene. Did you even notice after buffy picks up her pencil and says “deja vu”. She can sense there is something down there. Then the tension as buffy figures out what it isn’t right away, we see realisation hit willow last and harder……… But no instead you wanted to point out you remembered a obscure, “blink andmiss it” very hidden Easter eggs that left us on a cliffhanger of whether angel would ever get his restorative ritual. Genuine question do you act this way watching movies or tv with your friends/family aswell…. Or do you dial up the enthusiasm for the sake of us? because if it comes across insincere even a little, buff and angel fans would feel a touch insulted and pandered too. Please for the sake of your videos before your decide to say anything more, ask yourself if you’re comment is really needed here. Will people more prefer to hear your comment over the actual movie or tv dialogue. Are the insights and ideas I’ve got, worth talking over a climax which you’ll be by definition not fully listening to it taking in because you busy taking your victory lap for remember what the floppy disc was for even though it was revealed less than 5 mins later
@jimmy2k4o dude what is your childhood trauma? She's reacting to the video. Let her react. That's the whole freaking point of a reaction video, the watcher's reaction, not the reactor staying silent so the viewer is able to catch every bit of dialogue in a show they've presumably seen before. Grow up. She was excited about the floppy disc. It's her first time watching and SHE DOESN'T KNOW that it'll be explained in 5 minutes. Geez. Everyone misses things their first watch through. Deal with it. Go somewhere else if you don't like it.
"I can't wait to tell my friends, they don't have a rock this big." - Ed Milliband
If you were a wreck by the end of this episode, you're in for a treat in the next episode
"I care". - You said the same line as Buffy!
You booked your ticket on the feels train, and this train has no breaks. Enjoy ;)
Best Buffy-tube comment ever :D
One of the things I loved the most about this episode, seeing Buffy pre-slayer. Like you pointed out, she was so much like Cordelia...lol.
Yeah, this show has a lot of symbolism when it relates to Buffy as a character. Giles represents her mind, Willow represents her heart, Xander represents her strength/spirit, etc.
Cordelia is meant to represent the question "What if Buffy never became the Slayer?", whereas I believe Kendra is meant to represent the question "What if Buffy was by-the-book? No friends, no social life, no school. Just slaying under her Watcher's thumb.".
most people i've seen talk about the representation, have said that willow represents her spirit, and xander represents her heart. but each to their own i suppose. xander always seems to act out of his emotions - whether through anger or sadness, he never seems to consider the logical side of things. sort of like how the heart tends to be represented in literature. willow is the best friend, the support, the shoulder to cry on when things get bad. she's the first to try and understand buffy's struggles in season 3 when everyone else seemed to be against her and not wanting to talk about it. it seems like the sort of thing her metaphorical spirit would do. idk, each to their own i suppose.
I think it makes sense that Dru has mind control powers. She already was a seer, but as a vampire she's a direct descendant of the Master, so I think that particular power comes from him.
This video was really worth the waiting, but now I can't wait for the next one! Thank you so much!!
tsukigalleta also the ptb...if you watched angel you will get it lol
I wouldn't say direct but close. It would be direct if she was sired by him, essentially she's more of a great granddaughter to him
Flashback Buffy's first watcher was Merrick, as from the 1992 BTVS movie which the the first episode of the show sort of follows after.
"He loves her already"
I think it's called stalking at this point 🤣🤔
Not if you're handsome.
Willow doing magic, I don't see anything wrong with that.
No idea what you're on about...hehe
Warren Day LoL. 😂
Sigh. Comments like this are so spoilery to people who haven't seen the whole show yet!
Bored now
@@sk70091 at least its not as bad as those "all im gonna say is dont get too attatched", as if they think theyre being clever.
The big rock joke is the gift that keeps on giving.
"Why you have to makes me feel things ?!" Best complaint a fiction can ever receive
Just twigged, like you did- the moment Kendra gives away her lucky stake she's killed.
Anytime that damn score plays for Buffy and Angel it always gets to you. And I mean everybody. It's so beautiful and moving.
Not everyone
In seasons 1-3 Xander is known for his insensitivity, but Xander is like a wine: he gets better with age! Also, it is so so hard not to love Spike!!!
I hated Xander from the beginning. He was a pig. He had no growth when it came to Angel, and the only reason he hated him was because of his jealousy. He got mildly better as the show progressed, but I never liked him the way I did Cordelia. By season 7 I stopped disliking him. Had he owned up and admitted that the way he acted he was wrong, then I would've liked him. But the fact is, he is never called out on lying to Buffy about Willow about to reensoul Angel and that always dangled on me not liking him. They say he's the heart and soul of the Scooby Gang, but he wasn't.
"Shut up, Xander." Me, every time Xander is on-screen...
LOVED your reaction to Spike. That's pretty much my reaction to Spike all the time. He's my favorite. :)
You should start reacting to Doctor Who.....anyone get the feeling that Rose and Ten would destroy this young woman
Someone~ wasn't~ wor~thy~
Amazing reaction! Cannot wait for Becoming Part 2 - seriously every old school Buffy fan is with you for that one
Cant wait for the next one! Great reaction as always. I forgot there were flash back scenes in this episode so that was a nice treat lol! I always get mad though because the Darla in flashback is so much more regal and in control; so much more “Darla” than the terrible Darla we got in season 1 lol. Any flashback with her, she’s so much “more” than what we got to see in her stupid outfit, with her weird voice and her slavery m-act to the master. Grrrr-arrgh!!
But otherwise... ahh... this next episode is just, wow. And into S3!! One of my fav seasons of them all. Eeek! Cant wait!!
I miss Kendra I wish there was time to do more with her character she was so cool imo and her friendship with buffy was cute buffy didn't feel so alone in the world because there was another slayer
amazing reaction. thanks for reacting :) cant wait to see your reaction to the season finale. I cannot believe how much xander was a jerk in this episode. I was always ok with him. but I kinda started to dislike him. in this episode. also spike's comment about the demon rock thing. that was soo funny.
You may never see this but I love rewatching this with you
this two-parter was everything.
You always have the same reaction than Buffy :D Great reaction, can't wait for the finale.
I'm just gonna give you a hug right now. We're in this together.
Angel/Angelus/Liam is Irish
I love, love, love your smile and your laugh ❤️
Is that guy with the moustache supposed to me Merrick? Not the most 'Donald Sutherland-y' looking guy
Even Cordelia thought Xander was rude & insensitive.
#kendradeservedbetter
You just got into the buffy fandom. Questioning Angel's accent is a rite of passage all buffy fans must go through. This episode was definitely good and you should know there's a Buffy movie that came out before the show. It's almost nothing like the show but that flashback of Buffy in her other school kinda shows what Buffy is like in the movie. Should also note it's a completely different actress playing Buffy.
Xander needs to be defended. Everyone wants to save Angel but Xander understands even if Angel is good, the potential to go bad will always be there and put them all at risk. Xander is the only logical one on the team
I agree about the Xander part but even tho I love Xander I do have to say that I think his reasoning for wanting Angel/Angelus dead is more to do with him being petty than logical. Xander thinks with his emotions (eg. Selfless) and I don't think this episode was an exeption. Still love him tho.
I agree Buffy put her ex boyfriend before the lives of innocent people, Xander had to say the truth and people can’t handle that.
I also agree about the Xander bit. Let's also not forget that Xander has a lot of issues with vampires in general because of what happened with Jesse. Him having to kill Jesse left an impact on him and how he has viewed vampires throughout the rest of the series. Though I do think that his intentions weren't that great (they were likely partially stemming from his jealousy and hatred of Angel), I do think that his point is a logical and truthful one. And sometimes the truth (and logic) hurts.
Buffy's response was a purely emotional one, which is totally understandable given not only her age but just the circumstances in general, but that is also very dangerous given her calling and the type of choices she has to make. I think that both options (cursing and re-ensouling him or just straight up killing him) are valid options, one is just more emotional ("me" driven) and the other more logical ("greater good" driven) for Buffy anyway (for Xander the "kill him" option is much more emotionally and "me" driven).
Jessica Canavan I agree with Xander in this situation but I just don’t think, like you said, his intention is to be the logical one. He hates Angel and wants him dead. And I agree about the Jesse thing, wish that was brought up more in the show.
Oh, yes. I agree. Like I said, his intentions weren't logical, they were emotionally based, but his point was logical in and of itself. I also think that Xander went about expressing that point the wrong way, but that stemmed from his emotional connection to the point he was making. About the Jesse thing, it does get brought up....just elsewhere...and that's all I'll say on that because spoilers and whatnot.
Xander is right
I have a plush version of that stake. Officially licensed, tags still on
Mr. Pointy?
Re:willow and magic, you are so right.
Please please please please upload part 2 asap 😁 x
Aw Kendra!!!!!!!! All the feels in this emotional episode eh, you're already almost there with the universal cry of Buffy fans ( just missing one word lol) "Joss! Why do you do this to us!!!"
See, I tend to agree more with Xander on this issue. Oh, and you found dirty, old hobo Angel crushing on a 14-15 year-old girl cute? I found it disgusting and horrifying. I mean, even ignoring the 200 years he wasn't there, he's still a 26-year-old man. Not cool, at all.
Don't get me wrong, I like Angel as a character, but his whole obsession with Buffy grosses me out.
I don't agree with Xander in this episode, but everything else you said, totally on the nail. Angel 'falling for' 15 year old school girl Buffy while she's sucking a lollipop? Gross. And very stalkery - why wait until a year later in Sunnydale to reveal himself to supposedly help out with the fight against evil? SPOILER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He never tells Buffy that he was spying on her and lusting after her when she was only 15. Grrr.
He told her in “helpless”, he watched her being called.
Buffy was 15 in the 1996 flashback and your right about Angel. He has the body and maturity of a 26 year old becuse Vampires are stuck.in the age they where turned at but Angel. Has two hundred and forty two years on Buffy so he has the body of a 26 year old but is 243 years old or 242 becuse the flashback takes place in 1996 even Ford Buffy childhood friend in Lie to me pointed out Angel looks older than Buffy. And I agree with Xander
Belle Star you’re using today’s morality to judge the past. It wasn’t uncommon at the time and more so the farther you go back. There are laws in each state that give minors as young as 12 in some states the right to marry with a parents permission. And I can assure you it’s not on the books for two twelve year olds to marry.
In Angels cares it was very common in his time for older men to marry very young girls. A 15 year old would be a women in his time and they would marry much older men. So it wouldn’t be out of character for him at all.
Can't the slayer have a Buffymobile or something ?
Even Batgirl has her own bike.
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Ermmm she’s 15 he’s at least 25 (and in reality centuries old). This is not sweet
Fuck this bullshit.A 15 girl is not a child,is not a pedo attraction at all.Women can't just stand our attraction for younger girls. But when YOU have relationship with younger men,everybody needs to be quiet or is a sexist .Ok,sure.Sorry hon ,not every man fall for you bullshit thank god
Dario Fidanza mate I’m a man, and if a 25 yr old had been perving on me when I was 15 it’d have been exactly as wrong as the other way around. Please don’t try and pigeonhole me and please don’t try and have sex with minors.
Anyways I’ve kinda changed my mind on this. he’s a centuries old demonic creature so normal dating rules probs don’t quite apply, and he’s clearly only there to provide a fantasy for the teenage (and older) girl demographic. Sarah Michelle geller is so clearly not 16 that it doesn’t feel /that/ creepy.
Irish accent: Angel aka liam was born 17th century Ireland.
Hey, look, it's that most pacifist and logical of races, a Vulcanologist!
My "lucky steak" was delicious... thank you.
Another top 5 episode IMO... so good...
This is the episode I go from finding Xander an annoyance to hating him beyond any doubt.
If Buffy had done something earlier Xander wouldn't have his arm broken, Willow wouldn't have gotten hurt, Giles wouldn't have been taken and Kendra would still be alive. So Xander was the only one speaking sense.
No Diggity, What does that have to do with Xander looking point-blank at Giles and referring to Jenny by saying, "Yeah well she's dead?" That is the only part of the argument I hate because Xander cannot and did not ever apologize to Giles, or anyone else for anything else he ever did for that matter.
As for Buffy doing something earlier to make sure her friends were not hurt. The earliest anyone could have done anything smart on the offensive front would have been 'Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered' as that is when Giles and Buffy start studying Angelus. And in that case as well as every episode except 'Passion' their hands were full with other Hellmouth problems. One episode later the Warehouse burned and Buffy doesn't learn where they go until 2x22 which is after this episode.
The narrow window of "doing something" would have gotten them all killed as Drusilla saw the future of Angelus' nearly restored soul in that episode. Whose to say everyone wouldn't have ended up dead by 'Passion' long before a hospital trip over events in this episode.
Xander got better eventually. You hated him forever based on this?
thanatos3378, Actually no he didn't get better eventually. This is just what started my hatred. It continued due to numerous other things.
SPOILERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN BEYOND 'BECOMING PART 1'
The next episode with the Willow blame continued it. (See the next one if you don't understand).
The anger at Buffy in season 3 despite the fact that a lot of her decisions happened because of Xander's "Willow said kick his ass" quote made it worse.
Anger issues. Enough said.
Name-calling after people tell him not to.
Encouraging Buffy to stay with Riley as if Buffy was ENTIRELY in the wrong also didn't help.
Cheating and saying he did nothing wrong.
Being hypocritical about relationships.
Telling Buffy he trusts her at the end of 'Revelation' when everything he did in that episode and all events in the episode could have been avoided if he did trust her.
Leaving Anya at the alter only to run to his friends afterwards for an ego boost made me furious. He was the one who should have stood in front of the guests and said there wasn't a wedding. Not the stood up bride.
Season seven I thought he was doing better, then he helped kicked Buffy out of the house shortly after giving a speech about how great she was only to tell her when she was back about thinking he should be by her side.
Telling Buffy and Willow he doesn't remember his time as a hyena just to avoid an apology he didn't even have to say to begin with or avoid embarrassment. Either way he lied for no reason. But that one was season one and still more annoying, than hating.
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Siding with bad guys against Buffy claiming it would save Dawn's life only causing more problems.
Not telling the gang he is seeing Anya's dead spirit and thus letting said spirit that isn't really Anya gain an evil foothold on the mortal plain.
I'm sure everyone can come up with their own lists for every character they dislike or hate ect., but this is my off the top of my head list for a character I loathe. When a thought in your head at all times towards Xander is that Anya as a vengeance Demon deserves better, you know something is amiss in your feelings towards him.
No Diggity How was he supposedly making sense? His argument is just dumb. Even on purely pragmatic level, obviously resouling Angel would be a huge win for the Scoobies - they take out a big threat without even having to fight him (and it's not like Buffy is guaranteed to be able to kill him otherwise), and gain a potential ally. But Xander is so consumed by hatred for Angel that he's more upset by the idea of Angel potentially not being killed in the end than, you know, him continuing to do evil things and kill more people.
And then he dares to bring up Jenny's death - as if he is the one that cares about her so much - to Giles, of all people. That was just gross.
Xander was a dick in this scene.
I don't know what version of the show you were watching but the original airing version and the DVD has the year and the location of each flashback show on the screen. Did it show that for you?
Yeah it did.
Oh ok. You looked confused in the video about where and when those flashback scenes were taking place.
This is one of those episodes where Xander really pisses me off lol! It’s Angelus that killed Jenny not Angel. Also if Jenny had just told everyone the truth in the first place all this could have been avoided and she’d most likely still be alive.
It’s kind of the point I think. Everyone is emotional about how they feel and it’s your perspective that forms your morals. He can’t forgive Angel but later seasons he’s fine with women he loves doing the same.
Everyone rags on Xander for being a jerk in this episode, but the truth is, he has a point. He's right about everything. Everything.
I don't think anyone was 'wrong' in that argument and Angel himself might've agreed with Xander given that he knows full well what Angelus is capable of. Buffy, Willow, and Giles also have a point as souled Angel is a tremendous force for good and a friend and ally.
It reminds me of a conversation on DBZ where Vegeta tells Goku that letting the Gnuyu force go saying if Goku didn't arrive on time krillin and Gohan would have died so Vegeta was using his coman sense. same thing with Xander before the 19th century Angel was a brutal vicious murderer he killed hundreds and thousands. Ruined people's lives including Holtz Drusilla Margert the maid The Gpyspy girl and the people he killed in 1998 after losing his soul again Jenny calendar Travis etc
Darla was oddly sexual? This whole season has been all about sex in several ways. So are vampires in general. Just keeping in theme.
On angel, we learn her backstory when she was human so that scene makes sense
5:35 - I'd say Xander was way out of line
Xander was right
Me too
So awesome 😍
Xander's right tho. I agree with him! He had to pay
I had to see this reaction, this was the one time, that I liked that Drusilla, killed a slayer.
After show reactions why you didn't watch go fish episode
i did watch it
i didnt react to it
No it's not insensitive, they have been working on Bufyf to get her able to kill Angel for a long time now and because of this disc there's hope and that's dangerous because it means Buffy might delay.
where part 2??
Just finished uploading it - You can now watch it :) Sorry for it being late - computer had overheating problems :(
After Show Reactions it's okay hun I thought my TH-cam wasn't working properly am so excited to watch it thank you Xx
I care to
3:00 the fact that’s the floppy disc Jenny was working is clear is something people have been waiting since passions to be resolved.
You got so exited at your lightbulb moment you spoke over the diaglogue of the scene.
Did you even notice after buffy picks up her pencil and says “deja vu”. She can sense there is something down there. Then the tension as buffy figures out what it isn’t right away, we see realisation hit willow last and harder………
But no instead you wanted to point out you remembered a obscure, “blink andmiss it” very hidden Easter eggs that left us on a cliffhanger of whether angel would ever get his restorative ritual.
Genuine question do you act this way watching movies or tv with your friends/family aswell…. Or do you dial up the enthusiasm for the sake of us? because if it comes across insincere even a little, buff and angel fans would feel a touch insulted and pandered too.
Please for the sake of your videos before your decide to say anything more, ask yourself if you’re comment is really needed here. Will people more prefer to hear your comment over the actual movie or tv dialogue. Are the insights and ideas I’ve got, worth talking over a climax which you’ll be by definition not fully listening to it taking in because you busy taking your victory lap for remember what the floppy disc was for even though it was revealed less than 5 mins later
@jimmy2k4o dude what is your childhood trauma?
She's reacting to the video. Let her react. That's the whole freaking point of a reaction video, the watcher's reaction, not the reactor staying silent so the viewer is able to catch every bit of dialogue in a show they've presumably seen before.
Grow up.
She was excited about the floppy disc. It's her first time watching and SHE DOESN'T KNOW that it'll be explained in 5 minutes. Geez.
Everyone misses things their first watch through. Deal with it. Go somewhere else if you don't like it.
@@chrissyjoy08 I do coke and rant on TH-cam but I stand by my o early emotional comments.
I cant wait