I think Harley needs you to do the launch !! I learn more from your video than from Harley or any other TH-camr that i have watched!! Great Job !!! very informative Review
I really enjoy your channel. I sort of New to Harley I’m 56 years old I got back into Motorcycling after I raised my two kids and now have spending money budget and time to enjoy riding as before I when I was a 8 year old until I got married when I was 26 I rode took long break when I got married and raised our kids. So at 51 I bought my 1st Harley 2015 Ultra Limited for $16,500 has around 24000 miles on it now it has 63000 miles on it. My Wife said honey go by your motorcycle…..we looked for the bike in our BUDGET which was around $15,000. My wife wanted a HARLEY Ultra Limited so she would be comfortable riding with me. We go on vacations and we ride all over the country we love it. Nothing wrong with my 2015 Ultra limited still love it. I see Harley as a Motorcycle you can make it your own by customizing it and that is what I enjoy doing going through the bike upgrading the parts. I don’t think we all want to be riding around with same new looking bikes. If you want a bike fully loaded….then there is CVO or Indian putting out some really nice motor cycles with all the bells and whistles with less aftermarket parts. I have 63,000 on this bike in couple years I will do same thing by good used and customize my own Harley again. I’m to deep into all the Harley cloths and life style we enjoy it too I’m not switching brands I plan on staying loyal and my next bike will be Harley. Again I’m glad that these new bikes coming out you can customize it and I’m looking forward to see what the 3rd party vendors can make for them. I agree with you a good 2nd bike for me would be Low Rider ST…..but again I would buy 5 year old low rider S and build my own Low Rider ST because I’m not spending my budget on $25,000 new bikes period. I’m a person that keeps by bike a long time and customize it many years. I do like the street version of Pan American but they want way too much money for it…..that should be $14,000 new bike. You see how much these bike drop in the used market…..great bike but the lose there value to fast.
Hello! Appreciate you sharing! Love the your story! I am going to be 55 here shortly and ALMOST done with financial responsibility to my kids! I fully agree the value is in the used market which is very plentiful of low mileage options. I also am loyal to Harley, the bikes, the culture and more importantly the people! Love it! Thanks for sharing!
Great summary. Harley’s roll out this year sure was a let down. I guess someone dropped the ball. Out of interest… I ordered a set of the new style fairing lowers for my 24 Road Glide today. When looking at the paint match options I noticed that you can get them in most of the CVO colors (like Copperhead, Legendary Orange, and Whisky Neat). So if any 23.5+ CVO owner should want to install a set of the new full size lowers they can get them color matched by Harley.
I am loving the lower design, I have never been a fan of them until I test rode one and it is remarkable how much comfort and reduced fatigue on your legs they provide. These are the best version I have ever seen!
Nice job Tom, thanks for the info. I also read the Dennis Chung article and was hoping they would have the new tour-pak's design for 2025 Limited's this year. The 2025 SG Ultra rear fender and old tour-pak each have a license plate bracket....so that's 2 on the back! They should have released the new design. I will wait until they do.
Mild or wild! Thanks for the video. I was at the dealer earlier and checked out that new CVO ST in Hot Lap color, pretty cool. More of my videos coming soon. Still riding at 37F here.
Man I still owe you a plug! I promise I will get this in here soon! Love your videos and I need a new virtual ride through the Vegas area! I want to see the pinball museum!
I definitely agree with your statement about HD not communicating effectively. Just like you I’m glad that I got my 24 before this year. I don’t that that the price increase for paint isn’t worth the money. Thanks for the video.
Thanks. I did get not notified either, same as last year. So I assumed the website would go to 2025 on the 23rd 5PM. Before that time during the day the website said "This site is currently being updated." After 5PM the website was unstable for some time, probably because many people were trying. Date and time were sent to me by my H-D dealer's newsletter, with a reminder on the day itself, probably that was the notification. But no mentioning of a video presentation, or even the TH-cam channel that did show a few video's. The 117 classic and 117 custom have same camshaft 25400273 (as 2018 to 2024), the 117 classic may have lower "throttle valve tuning" for the different torque curve (they all have ride modes, you see). The HO117 has same camshaft 25400460 as the CVO Road Glide ST (2024/2025), hence the higher power, but same torque, both at higher rpms. The 117 custom is basically the same as of 2024, although the engine has some internal changes like cylinder head ports for 2025.
Great research, tuning vs cams. It’s an interesting deployment in the Softails. Paring the motor to the purpose of the bike or what? I think many would like to see a Street Bob with the HO version!
Great information. Thanks very much! I was interested in the new coil cover for my 2024 SG, however Harley’s site says it only fits the 2025. I suspect it will fit, but who knows? 🤷🏼♂️
Yes I failed to call that out, says softball only but I think it will fit but cannot guarantee. Check out my video on the older version which for sure fits! th-cam.com/video/QXiCvlatJn8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wfopS-kFBgN310Bp
Doesn’t appear anyone received anything! Saturday I did get the printed version in the mailbox. C’Mon Harley Marketing! I think they should invite us for feedback, we would happily help them!
Great video. You definitely get into the details. I’m interested in that “Cool Flow Fan”. If you or anyone else reading this installs one, please let us all know if it really works.
Really geared towards the passenger vs the rider. My wife has no interest so not sure I will invest in this one! But hey Harley if you are out there send me one!
Ahhhh....they did drop the prices on both Nightsters. Pretty sure the RKS and Trikes still use incandescent turn signals. Plus the spoke wheels on a couple Softails have been updated to a new style.
I highly recommend you you test ride the Pan America, you’ll see why it rips and is so comfortable. In my opinion though, it does not belong on anything other than a graded forest road.
The new Tour Pak may launch with the rumored upcoming Ultra Limited. Maybe it will be a mid year launch. Maybe not, but the Street Glide Ultra is just a Street Glide with a Tour Pak and doesn’t really hit the mark as an Ultra.
Great video. Maybe you know this . I’ve asked several HD dealers . If on the new bike we have a liquid issue , can you still ride the bike ? Being that the cylinders still have fins I would think you can. The liquid is in the heads only . The dealers couldn’t tell me . What you think ?
So the bike is still air cooled so technically yes you can. BUT the heads are designed to have either Oil or Liquid cooling so without the coolant flowing they will get hot and for sure can create piston / head damage. Really would depend on how far and what the ambient temperature is. If you are “limping” to home or a dealer I would say its ok to ride but if its hot out I would stop here and there.
I think Harley needs you to do the launch !! I learn more from your video than from Harley or any other TH-camr that i have watched!! Great Job !!! very informative Review
Hey I wouldn’t say no! Appreciate your support!
I really enjoy your channel. I sort of New to Harley I’m 56 years old I got back into Motorcycling after I raised my two kids and now have spending money budget and time to enjoy riding as before I when I was a 8 year old until I got married when I was 26 I rode took long break when I got married and raised our kids. So at 51 I bought my 1st Harley 2015 Ultra Limited for $16,500 has around 24000 miles on it now it has 63000 miles on it. My Wife said honey go by your motorcycle…..we looked for the bike in our BUDGET which was around $15,000. My wife wanted a HARLEY Ultra Limited so she would be comfortable riding with me. We go on vacations and we ride all over the country we love it. Nothing wrong with my 2015 Ultra limited still love it. I see Harley as a Motorcycle you can make it your own by customizing it and that is what I enjoy doing going through the bike upgrading the parts. I don’t think we all want to be riding around with same new looking bikes. If you want a bike fully loaded….then there is CVO or Indian putting out some really nice motor cycles with all the bells and whistles with less aftermarket parts. I have 63,000 on this bike in couple years I will do same thing by good used and customize my own Harley again. I’m to deep into all the Harley cloths and life style we enjoy it too I’m not switching brands I plan on staying loyal and my next bike will be Harley. Again I’m glad that these new bikes coming out you can customize it and I’m looking forward to see what the 3rd party vendors can make for them. I agree with you a good 2nd bike for me would be Low Rider ST…..but again I would buy 5 year old low rider S and build my own Low Rider ST because I’m not spending my budget on $25,000 new bikes period. I’m a person that keeps by bike a long time and customize it many years. I do like the street version of Pan American but they want way too much money for it…..that should be $14,000 new bike. You see how much these bike drop in the used market…..great bike but the lose there value to fast.
Hello! Appreciate you sharing! Love the your story! I am going to be 55 here shortly and ALMOST done with financial responsibility to my kids! I fully agree the value is in the used market which is very plentiful of low mileage options. I also am loyal to Harley, the bikes, the culture and more importantly the people! Love it! Thanks for sharing!
Best review of the new HD lineup that I've listened to. Very thorough and excellent detail.
Thank you! Truly appreciate your feedback and support! I continue to put the videos out based on the feedback so thank you!
Thanks Tom !
You're welcome, I appreciate you watching!
Great summary. Harley’s roll out this year sure was a let down. I guess someone dropped the ball. Out of interest… I ordered a set of the new style fairing lowers for my 24 Road Glide today. When looking at the paint match options I noticed that you can get them in most of the CVO colors (like Copperhead, Legendary Orange, and Whisky Neat). So if any 23.5+ CVO owner should want to install a set of the new full size lowers they can get them color matched by Harley.
I am loving the lower design, I have never been a fan of them until I test rode one and it is remarkable how much comfort and reduced fatigue on your legs they provide. These are the best version I have ever seen!
Perfect summary, I can't wait to do our garage session, this time there was no chance...
Excited as well! Let me know.
Nice job Tom, thanks for the info. I also read the Dennis Chung article and was hoping they would have the new tour-pak's design for 2025 Limited's this year. The 2025 SG Ultra rear fender and old tour-pak each have a license plate bracket....so that's 2 on the back! They should have released the new design. I will wait until they do.
Agree we should see the new design soon!
Excellent summary!
Thank You, appreciate your support!
Always very well researched and informative. Great channel. Mike UK
Appreciate the support! I try!
Mild or wild! Thanks for the video. I was at the dealer earlier and checked out that new CVO ST in Hot Lap color, pretty cool. More of my videos coming soon. Still riding at 37F here.
Man I still owe you a plug! I promise I will get this in here soon! Love your videos and I need a new virtual ride through the Vegas area! I want to see the pinball museum!
I definitely agree with your statement about HD not communicating effectively. Just like you I’m glad that I got my 24 before this year.
I don’t that that the price increase for paint isn’t worth the money.
Thanks for the video.
Value is in the ‘24’s if you are shopping new for sure!
Thanks. I did get not notified either, same as last year. So I assumed the website would go to 2025 on the 23rd 5PM. Before that time during the day the website said "This site is currently being updated." After 5PM the website was unstable for some time, probably because many people were trying. Date and time were sent to me by my H-D dealer's newsletter, with a reminder on the day itself, probably that was the notification. But no mentioning of a video presentation, or even the TH-cam channel that did show a few video's.
The 117 classic and 117 custom have same camshaft 25400273 (as 2018 to 2024), the 117 classic may have lower "throttle valve tuning" for the different torque curve (they all have ride modes, you see).
The HO117 has same camshaft 25400460 as the CVO Road Glide ST (2024/2025), hence the higher power, but same torque, both at higher rpms.
The 117 custom is basically the same as of 2024, although the engine has some internal changes like cylinder head ports for 2025.
Great research, tuning vs cams. It’s an interesting deployment in the Softails. Paring the motor to the purpose of the bike or what? I think many would like to see a Street Bob with the HO version!
Great information. Thanks very much! I was interested in the new coil cover for my 2024 SG, however Harley’s site says it only fits the 2025. I suspect it will fit, but who knows? 🤷🏼♂️
Yes I failed to call that out, says softball only but I think it will fit but cannot guarantee. Check out my video on the older version which for sure fits! th-cam.com/video/QXiCvlatJn8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wfopS-kFBgN310Bp
Hi Mr. Tom! I had signed up for the release notification also and still haven't received any notification yet!! Still waiting! LoL
Doesn’t appear anyone received anything! Saturday I did get the printed version in the mailbox. C’Mon Harley Marketing! I think they should invite us for feedback, we would happily help them!
I was waiting for your thoughts on the new models Tom. Nice video. Ride safe from Sydney Australia 🤘🤘
Coming your way, May 16th I will be there!
Great video. You definitely get into the details. I’m interested in that “Cool Flow Fan”. If you or anyone else reading this installs one, please let us all know if it really works.
Really geared towards the passenger vs the rider. My wife has no interest so not sure I will invest in this one! But hey Harley if you are out there send me one!
Ahhhh....they did drop the prices on both Nightsters.
Pretty sure the RKS and Trikes still use incandescent turn signals.
Plus the spoke wheels on a couple Softails have been updated to a new style.
I highly recommend you you test ride the Pan America, you’ll see why it rips and is so comfortable. In my opinion though, it does not belong on anything other than a graded forest road.
You are not alone, PanAm owners are consistent with great feedback. I do believe it is a great bike but intimidating in size!
The new Tour Pak may launch with the rumored upcoming Ultra Limited. Maybe it will be a mid year launch. Maybe not, but the Street Glide Ultra is just a Street Glide with a Tour Pak and doesn’t really hit the mark as an Ultra.
This is the running theory! Either way I am sure this new version will fit either the SG or RG and it looks like it may be worth the wait!
Thanks Tom!!!!
Appreciate your support!
Great video. Maybe you know this . I’ve asked several HD dealers . If on the new bike we have a liquid issue , can you still ride the bike ? Being that the cylinders still have fins I would think you can. The liquid is in the heads only . The dealers couldn’t tell me . What you think ?
So the bike is still air cooled so technically yes you can. BUT the heads are designed to have either Oil or Liquid cooling so without the coolant flowing they will get hot and for sure can create piston / head damage. Really would depend on how far and what the ambient temperature is. If you are “limping” to home or a dealer I would say its ok to ride but if its hot out I would stop here and there.
@@ITFZoneThanks . I was thinking something like that. I appreciate the response
The Sportster S is supose to have 3inch of travel on rear shock now up from 2inches
Correct! Not the Nightsters just the Sportster.
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Maybe they weren’t carry-over models because they needed to add a “ Made in Thailand” sticker for the 2025 revolution engine motorcycles.😂
So true!