US Navy's Crushing Revenge After a Costly Betrayal by an Old Ally
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- In 1988, the Iran-Iraq War raged in the treacherous combat zones of the Persian Gulf. Amidst the chaos, no foreign ship, merchant or military, was safe. Not even US Navy ships were immune. In a stunning event, the USS Samuel B. Roberts was nearly blown apart by a mysterious unidentified naval mine.
US Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal divers scoured the area for evidence and eventually stumbled upon an astonishing truth. Serial numbers on the mines matched those from an Iranian ship stormed by Navy SEAL commandos.
America vowed revenge, and launched Operation Praying Mantis to knock Iran back in its place. It would be one of the largest US Naval surface operations since WW2. The primary mission would be to decimate Iranian Naval power in the region, but the US Navy also had its eyes set on an unexpected and unconventional target… one that might have even been illegal.
The Navy thought to scrap the Roberts following its near-catastrophic damage, but Bath Iron Works still had the Roberts' blueprints in archive. After contacting the Navy BIW leadership tasked its engineering department with assessing the possibility of building a drop-in replacement section for the Roberts - if possible - to save the wounded frigate. The engineering department returned a positive response, "We can do it." The Navy agreed to do a "cost-plus" contract to resurrect the Roberts and brought the damaged vessel to BIW's Portland facility and put it in drydock, willing to 'make a statement' to Iran proving America's determination and military/industrial capabilities."
I worked on that project. The damaged section was cut out and replaced with an identical unit manufactured at the main shipyard's Bath facility from the original plans in less than one year.
The USS Samuel B. Roberts returned to duty in the Persian Gulf.
It was a proud moment in both the U.S. Navy's and Bath Iron Works' histories, and I was proud to be involved.
Man... this gives me an overwhelming sense of patriotism haha, thanks for sharing.
Well done, eldjr1104…a proud moment indeed…👏🏼
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Awesome story thanks for posting
As a Brit who's country has had the odd punch up at sea for over 1000 years, I can honestly say that the reputation America has for patching up almost derelict ships is second to none. The Ohio crewed by us staggered into Malta harbour, lashed between two destroyers to stop her sinking. Her back was broken and blasted to hell, but they kept that old lady afloat with her fuel, food and ammo. God bless the Americans who made her.
@@jp-um2fr Well said.
At one point amidst everything happening a Soviet ship approached. The captain of one of the U.S. destroyers asked what their intentions were. The Soviet captain responded "taking pictures for history." There's a great video from The Operations Room that covers this.
The Fat Electrician has a really good video too. I don't think anyone tells the story better than he does
That was the USS Merrill DD-976 We were headed to the second platform when we were turned around
The Russians was backing Iraq and not Iran at the time, They were also running protection to the oil tankers and also engage in attacking Iran
That is why there are so many pictures coming out of the Eastern Ukraine now.
@@anthonysmith3577 Totally agree
Technically legal is still legal. The international law doesn't say oil rig. This is a story that deserves more than 12 minutes.
Fat electrician and operations room both have videos about it
Illegal by who's terms? Legal only has teeth when someone has the ability to enforce said law. When the only country which enforces International Law gets pissed and decides to sink your entire Navy. I would call that fuck around, be prepared for international law to mean NOTHING as you FIND OUT.
It was straight up a war crime, there's no justifying it just like shooting down a passenger plane due to a captain that failed to follow basic instructions and orders and the guy who was in charge of radar being a dipsh*t failing to properly identify a target.
Let's have a look on the outcome of these war crimes committed by the US. Ah yes, a country where everyone hates the US and they now have nukes and decent drone technologies. Great Success.
its the best kind of legal
@@stevendubin3584 "It's not a war crime the first time"
No mention of the U.S.S Schofield(FFG-3)?? Because I was on it at the time. And were there in the middle of it all. We had gun boat and oil platform kills. Came back a couple years later for desert storm.
I was there as a stinger gunner, then came back for desert storm as well
Grateful for your service.
I was on Guadalcanal LPH-7, we were around for these events but kept a bit distant, I didn't hear any gunfire when we shelled the platforms. On that day rumor had it that we were going to attack the Iranian base at Bandar Abbas!
@@gmansard641 Rumor Central. LoL! I was on Merrill.
If any of you all find yourselves thirsty in SW Florida, I’d be happy to buy you a few foamy “adult beverages” just to listen to your stories.
Frigate Samuel B Roberts named for Destroyer Escort sunk during heroic action against superior Japanese naval forces in Battle of Leyte Gulf. Ship was discovered in June 2022 at depth of more than 22,600 feet--world's deepest shipwreck. Here's to the heroes of Taffy 3.
Old guy here. The last stand of the tin can sailors. Those guys had guts! That’s the reason the shipwreck was so deep in the water. The extra weight of those men with BRASS BALLS took it deep!
At least we don’t have to worry about Chinese tankers registered in Malaysia robbing those grave sites!! Can’t believe we’ve sit back for ten years and watched China recycle 90% of the war memorials of ww2 that was supposed to be gravesites and national historic memorials, shit a lot of ppl don’t even know about it. The one time they did arrest anyone for it the ship somehow slipped away from holding a week later then they turned the crew loose after that with no one being charged. Supposedly steel from before 1945 (pre nukes) are worth more for electronics, I think we should sink anyone near these gravesites in a recycling ship! Not like we don’t know which ships are doing it, where the workers are from, what country is paying them to do it, what yard they take the scrap to, & who is issuing the permits to sights near it which is not where they are going. A couple of them had permits for universities but that still doesn’t make it legal but most get a permit for some place 50-100 miles away and just go to the sunken warship instead. It’s been well documented just nothing done about it. Even the ppl working at the recycling yard has reported finding bones and taken them to their graveyard and buried them but when reported to the police they went and seized all the bones and “debunked” it by saying it was bones of cats, you know because human bones are so similar to feline house cats that simple island ppl can’t tell the difference!!
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@@Legion-xq8eo i think they should take every single one of those metal ships at the bottom of the ocean out as most of them are toxic ticking time bombs. put a buoy or something up above the spots and make it a memorial on the surface
@matthewfors114 that's a lie though. The only thing supposedly toxic is the oil and if you knew any better you would know that oil seeps from the ground into the ocean every day naturally.
It must be demoralizing when your opponent hits your mine, breaks her keel and takes major damage, but refuses to sink and leaves under her own power
She didn't leave under her own power, she was towed away. The mine destroyed her engine room and both Gas Turbines.
It must be demoralizing when you just run into a mine.
@@Seltkirk-ABC apparently not, the crew had won awards before for damage control and their training paid off.
She could have left under her own power. The gas turbines were knocked off their bases and were no longer aligned with the ship’s gears. However, the FFG’s were also equipped with two auxiliary propulsion units that dropped down near the ship’s bow. They could be deployed and turned in any direction. They’re primary purpose was to get the ship back underway after such an event took place in order to get the ship into safer waters.
FFGs shouldn’t have ever been allowed to be used as target ships. These were really good ships that deserved to be modernized with the latest weapon systems. They still had plenty of life left in them.
@@mudman6156 She only had one SSDG operating since 3 main engineering spaces were flooded. To operate the APUs, 2 SSDGs were required. As I said before, she had to be towed from the scene. I commissioned USS Doyle (FFG-39) and served in the 1991 Gulf War on USS Kauffman (FFG-59). I am very familiar with the capabilities of this class of ships. OSCS(SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002
I was teaching aircraft maintenance at Chanute AFB from 74 to 78. During that time, I taught two classes of Iranian students. A couple of years later we were at war with them. Very strange world indeed.
What war ???? Iraq in 1990 yes
You did what you had to do.
I was at Chanute in '77 learning aircraft maintenance and remember the Iranian students. There were a lot of odd rumors about their behavior. I'm sure most of the gossip was false.
@@jeffrothman7227 one class of enlisted and another of officers. Ironically, the officer class had a female instructor, which the Iranians despised. They only had one use for women. She handled the American students and I handled the Iranians.
The Iranians didn't like the puppet government we put in place back in the '50s.
Things got real "proportional" that day.
USS William H. Standley CG-32 was just north of the oil platforms during the bombardment to prevent interference from the Iranian air force. We were told a SEAL team went aboard, but the Marines work. The last picture shows the platforms still standing, a couple of hour later I understand that they sank. The U.S. got a lot of flack over the escort mission in the news, but the English, French, and Russians were doing the same thing. If the secret service had let me take a picture of Casper Wienburger I would have had the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Chief of Staff, and the Secretary of the Navy all on one roll of 110/400ASA film. I didn't make any history but I lived through some.
The way I understand it, the Marines were sent to deploy charges on one and the Seals on the other after both had taken fire from the supporting USS ships and Cobra helicopters. The Seals mission was cancelled because the initial attacks destroyed it, making the mission unnecessary. The Marines platform was not destroyed by the initial attack, so the Marines had to set the charges.
There is someone who did a much more thorough video on this series of events.
“I didnt make any history but I lived through some.”
You just made history with 👆🏼 quote, a brilliant one, IMO.
Just remember, it's never a "War Crime" the first time.... It's called an "Advantage" at first. 🤪🤣
You and me both have seen the fat electrician
@@JBWRight88 "Proportional Retaliation" :D
@@Culdcepter Yes!!!
Quack-Bang, Out.
@@JBWRight88the Fat Electrician is hilarious! 😂
Samuel B Roberts has quite a history and there should always be a Sammy B in our navy. God bless you all and thank you one all. God Bless America. some of us understand.
That's the America I know. Making things right.
The LGB went right down the stack of the Sahan, the gun cam footage was cool AF. I was there.
An American “diplomat” said of the Iran-Iraq war that the biggest tragedy was that only one side could lose.
Well, the Americans and Russians both seem to have lost the Middle East. And the British lost it 50 years before them.
US is still allied with 70% of the oil production there.
@@jaegybomb That may have changed with one Jarred Kushner. Revealing state secrets.
Always outstanding work, young man
Thank you.
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Thank you for sharing
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Why do you have a 🏆(trophy) next to the US flag?
These actions have directly caused an entire nation to hate the US, which now have nukes and Great drone technologies. Those drone technologies which give them the ability to swarm ships... I fail to see how this was a success.
Just another F up added to the list of the many, the US has created.
Like failing to control Iraq and the region after destabilising it, like for real does it feel good paying higher prices for gas? Because, your country destabilised an entire region and F up so big, that they failed to control it. That you now largely rely on them for oil?😂😂
Or, how about going into Afghan and failing to whipe out opiate farmers. How's the opiate crisis going right now? It is still over 90% of heroin on the streets of US coming from Afghan.
Granted your education system is set up to fail you and make you believe a piece of fabric aka American flag, is the be all and end all.
But, reality works in a different way and reality is, USA are playing catch up to China especially technologies. Large parts of Africa are falling into Russian and Chines hands. USA heavily rely on China, just one example over 80% of US medicine and supplies are improted from China. You successfully destabilised large regions of Asia and now have enemies that have nukes.
The best bit though, US rely heavily on Chinese business and China owns a large amount of US businesses. Tiktok everyone knows about. My favourite one, China owns a ridiculous amount of land in the US just by simply using fake names to fool the American authorities and they didn't even need to fire a single bullet for that land lmfao.
I was on the USS Sides (FFG-12) for operation "Earnest Will" escorting tankers in and out of the Persian Gulf. The Sides would be noted in the downing of the Iranian Commercial Air, for have a different point of view then the USS Vincinses. USS Sides (FFG-12) and USS John A Moore (FFG-19) were part of the Navy's reserve fleet for training reservists. Both were moved back to the Active Duty Navy fleet to test the performance of reservists and active duty personnel under intense operating condition in combat zone areas. Both ships were involved in Operation Pray Mantis. Both ships performed their duties escorting, intelligence collecting and mine detection/destruction.
Far be it for me to correct a fellow sailor possible actual shipmate but I too was on the Uss, Sides though a couple of years after that and unless they added a couple to that hull number in those couple of years it was FFG 14 not 12. Yeah it been a while and that almost Mandella effected me I was going to look it up but remembered that I still have my shellback card.. It says 14. Unless the mighty Neptune himself was having an off day it is FFG 14 and I still have most of my marbles. Well at least that one marble. Small world though.
Fun fact he Sides (14) and the Phillip (12) were decommed at the same time and were some of the very last of that class when decommed in 2003 since they both had received an upgraded flight deck and towed array the Navy hung on to them even as they were scrapping much newer frigates. The Sides was scrapped in 2015 and as far as I know the Phillip is still sitting in a boneyard somewhere.
i was wrong on the Hull numbers correct number should have been (FFG-14) and the (FFG-12) was the Philips. I stand corrected folks. Had to go to my I love me wall and look too. Yep, Snipgoat1 was correct. I blame this on old age, sorry and thanks
Sorry for bonehead mistake embarrassing I had to go to the photo hanging on my wall. hank you for correcting this old guy. @@Snipergoat1
Aye aye.
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I was on Guadalcanal LPH-7 at the beginning of Earnest Will, the SEAL team that captured the Iranian minelayer were embarked with us. I like to tell people how I provided close administrative support to the SEALs. (My disbursing office processed their travel claims).
The harpoon missing Wainwright wasn't a "miracle" if I remember correctly the Wainwright's turned tail and put up chaff to confuse the missiles radar, and it worked.
There was talk that they deployed a new jamming device that interferes with it's ability to see the water surface.
Please do a video about Laffey (Benson class destroyer DD-459). For the commenters please note that Dark Seas has done a video about USS Laffey DD-724 Allen M. Sumner-class destroyer not Laffey DD-459 Benson class destroyer which broadsided a Japanese battleship at point blank range.
I'd like to see that too!
You could try asking The Fat Electrician, he seems to put out vids quickly, and loves to do some homework like this.
My ex brother in law was on USS Rueben James escorting the reflagged tankers. Sammy B relieved Rueben James the day before hitting the mine.
So... You had a friend on the good Reuben James! (I'll see myself out now...)
Ruben James relieved the ship that captured the Iran Ajr, USS Jarret as I was stationed on the Jarrett
The Fat Electrician has the absolute best video on Operation Praying Mantis
I was looking to see if anybody else posted that far more detailed, he actually tells you who dropped what and who killed what.
The videos are great. It would have been interesting to see a map, maybe even animated, of the positions and movements of the different ships and aircraft and the oil platforms.
The world was apparently burning while I was watching Smurfs on tv and peddling Girl Scout cookies, completely unaware of this chaos. I’m so grateful for those of you who allowed me to have a safe and peaceful childhood. A safe life, really. Thank you so much.
Finally, 1 Genius, Grateful FEMALE.
Please educate & Correct Your "Sisters" by other Mothers.
Either we were never told of those events or I wasn't paying attention or I just have a damned poor memory. Thank you for the history.
Ofcourse not. Too close to the USS L1b€rty incident, and thus the conversation would naturally gravitate towards that.
The Day the Iranian navy f**ked around and found out. 😂
Why was Iran laying mines?
@@trimetrodonThey targeting Iraqi shipping and decided the best way to hit Iraqi ships was to just hit any ships
@@loganamurray64 Why was Iran targeting Iraqi shipping?
@@loganamurray64 And you believe that?
@@trimetrodon They were at war
I was there onboard HMS Ariadne and saw with my own eyes the USS Stark hit with two Exocet missiles from two Iranian fighter jets, we went to action stations moments beforehand as our electronic warfare facility picked up the missile’s radars pecking the lobes of our own radar. The Ship was saved but lost 36 crewmen.
*Iraqi fighter jet
What happened to the helicopter crew? Were they rescued, captured or killed? I need to know if I should buy a round to remember the fallen or rejoice that they survived & just hoist a pint to fortunes of war...
The crew of two died in the crash
Thank you for this history lesson. I was on H.M.S. Nubian ( Tribal Class frigate] Based in Bahrain in the late 1960 s.
Things were a lot quieter in those times.
All I craved for in those days was a cloud in the sky and a good old English pork pie !!!
Good video very informative.
very interesting, never knew much about it.
going to do some research. thanks...
I was there on board Hercules in 88...It was my last tour of duty in the Navy..
Several months before this I was on Guadalcanal LPH-7, I remember Hercules. Our medical department took care of some of you guys.
@@gmansard641 For everyone else, Hercules was an unflagged mobile sea forward operating platform. Joint forces expeditionary teams. I came home with a desert duck t-shirt, with the American flag waving on the back and said Persian 1988 & These Colors Don't Run. I still have my Rocket Fins.
@@gmansard641 also my dad was on the original USS Boxer LPH 4...
TheFatElection tells this story better. Its called a "proportional" response 😂
Pity about the 2nd ship named Sammy B.The first 1 gave the middle finger to world's largest battleship.
She was repaired and was one of the last OHP class in service.
“You - get in that speedboat and go attack that US destroyer”. Seemed like a good idea at the time.
Remember, David vs Goliath only worked in the bible, and that's a book of fairy tales.
Bro that was fucking awesome. I loved this episode. I love all of your channels. 💯
A bit of lost history: In 1953, the USA and UK overthrew the Prime Minister Mossaddegh of Iran and installed Shah Pahlavi, so that the oil companies wouldn't be audited. The oil companies were supposed to be paying royalties to the Iranian government. The consequence of refusing to be audited, was that the Prime Minister then said he would nationalize the companies. The oil companies appealed to their governments and the CIA & MI6 mounted a joint operation along with the clergy of Iran to destroy the Prime Minister in the name of big oil! Kermit Roosevelt, Jr. assisted in the coup. So the tossing of the corrupt Shah was a long time coming.
The Wikipedia information on the coup and on Mossaddegh's life are both very enlightening.
And probably one sided. Given the forces against him, Mossaddegh probably could have been overthrown without Kermit’s help. Also, Shah Pahlavi was REinstalled.
@@Egilhelmson -You don't say you've read it, how do you know its one sided? The US and UK did overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran and reinstalled Shah Pahlavi, father of the Shah who was overthrown in the 1970s. I'll take Wikipedia over Conservapedia any day. Concervapedia don't mention the 1953 restoration of the Shad. For a real laugh, have a look at their alternative facts version of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. They say it forbids both evolution and relativity. Apparently the universe didn't get that memo...
Congratulations and thanks to all the Navy servicemen and women who were part of "Praying Mantis". The 1980s Iranians were stupid to think they could best the 1980s US Navy.
Is this what kicked off the 8 hour war against Iran?
Great stuff. Thanks for posting.
I was on the USS Bagley, part of SAG "C" during Preying Mantis..
Dude 😊. The Fat Electrician has a full on funny story on the operation mantis 😊
What's funny about this is that the US only a few months earlier had helped Iran. We didn't want Iraq to have a decisive victory, so Ollie North and friends had an elaborate scheme that helped Iran get TOW and Hawk missiles (read about the Iran Contra affair).
Yes, I remember this in the news right when we were headed to the Gulf. We were pretty annoyed.
What about The USS Stark ! That sure changed the glory cruise of the USS Valley Forge CG-50 first west-pac. Remember that mid watch when word made it to the ship,
Things are getting real "proportional” around here.
While I tend to enjoy your videos, your naming platforms do not synch well with the video being shown. In this case twice you named A-6 planes but showed two different types of helicopters.
Don't know if it was intentional, but the video shows one of the Kidd class DDGs that was ordered by the Shaw of Iran
Targeted and proportional. F' with an Eagle and you'll get the talons.
the world is used to these vietnam - afghanistan failure coverups, lol. uss roberts was hit by a torpedo, not a mine, or several vessels transporting it would hit mines; including MV Mighty Servant. uss stark was hit by an iranian missile. Iraqi air force was 8 hours north of doha, unless an iraqi pilot (which none existed after iran destroyed all the jets) decided to take a lunch break and fly 8 hours south, lol ...2 corvettes, 12 recon chopper flight deaths, vs 3 iranian speed boats and conveniently leaving out the fact that iran wasn’t even fighting us, but 86 nations behind iraq. even if funded by cia or mi6 it's still f0kng lame, lol
@@syncopatedfeb4770where's your info coming from?
non-israeli media that ownes you, lol@@PaulJohnson-vn7eh
@syncopatedfeb4770 You are clueless. Everything you just mentioned is completely wrong. Sammie B hit not one but two French made Lugm-300 mines that were sold to Iran. Stark was hit by two Exocet AM-39 missiles that failed to arm (inside min range launch) and was damaged by exploding fuel.
Hey could you please do a video on the A 7 attack air plane please
I remember the Iran-Iraq War, a huge tragedy...the fact that it ended that is...
Honestly, it would have been better if it never started. The Iran-Iraq War was a huge contributing factor toward Iraq's decision to invade and occupy Kuwait a few years later, which then got the US involved in the 1st Gulf War. If the US wasn't pushed to uphold it's security guarantor obligations in the Mid East at that time, there's probably a good chance we don't have an invasion and occupation of Iraq in the mid 2000's based on bad intelligence that cost tens of thousands of lives, and severely destabilized the entire region.
The fat electrician covered this so well.
America: "DO, NOT, TOUCH, MY STUFF! EVER!"
My Father served on the Sammy B when it got hit by the mine.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the US sink Iran navy on a day Iran was fighting Iraq that was supported by both the US and its Western vessel states including the Soviet Union?
why did you remove saddam twenty years ago if he could not kill iran?
Because of an attempt at New American Empire by neocons, & Bush Jr was too much of an idiot... or he was on it. There's some evidence that Bush was always going to invade Iraq, primarily for the sake of US & friendly oil companies. 9/11 was like mana from heaven for trying to legitimize the scheme. It was leveraged to gain Congressional support, even.
Maybe the million dollar bounty on the American president had something to do with it.
@@richarda996 Yea, that's certainly an act of war.
This is equivalent to your little brother putting his hand near your face saying “I’m not touching you, I’m not touching you” and then he touches you......
Interesting, Thank You .
Aegis and Phalynx are both very good anti-missile systems.
To be clear. "Aegis" is the ship's radar/sensor and fire-control system, while "Phalynx" is the anti-missile gun system (CIWS), or "Close-In Weapon System", which is an automated system consisting of a radar and 6-barrel Galting gun designed primarially to down in-coming anti-ship missiles.
You can see some examples of the "SPY" AEGIS CONTROL CENTER in various parts of the movie Battleship.
Which is an amazing movie, I might add. 👍👏
I was on USS Merrill (DD-976) during Praying Mantis. As a green 'push-button,' GSE3, I was given to Repair 5 and was the Number 1 Nozzleman at the time. Most memorable moment? We were firing at the Sassan oil platform, and the 1MC shouted, "ALL HANDS LAY TO STARBOARD SIDE, RECEIVING FIRE PORT."
you'd think they'd have scrubbed those serial numbers, even petty criminals know to do that with the firearms they make use of
I'm pretty sure Iran remembers this and would be delighted for an opportunity to get some payback.
1979 a week im the life of a 14 year old boy. My Dad came home in full battle rattle. M16, pistol and gernads. He came for a coffee and the keys to the car. All the cars on base were taken to the square sports field and arranged along the edges pointing the headlinghts to the center making a landing field for helicopers bring Marines from the Iwo Jima.
The next day T72 tanks surronded the base. The tanks would track and target school buses and other American vichiles
2 or 3 days later the housing area at the front of the base was fire bombed. Then everything calmed down and life returned to normal.
It was the only time I ever seen my Dad with a gun. I was so scared I was physically sick.
IAS Crete Greece
That mine wasn’t unidentified. We always knew that it came from Iran. That was no secret. I was stationed on another FFG that found herself stuck in the exact same minefield. Only we were able to back out of it without hitting any of the mines…very slowly I might add. The Samual B Roberts was hardly the only ship to find itself in a minefield. We actually caught the Iranians laying their mines red handed. They were fighting a war against Iraq. But mines don’t choose sides.
Don't forget the involvement of France, who for many years harboured and protected those who in due course took over Iran and are now prosecuting war on Israel.
The lesson is never to fuck with the US Navy's boats
Awesome 😎
another helpful statistic would be including the cost of vehicle - and hence the price of a kill...
My Battle Group came over after the USS Stark . We joined the USS Missouri Battle Group and we was known as Battle Group Echo I was onboard the USS Ranger CV-61 my first West Pac under Ronald Reagan in 87
Didnt even mention the russian destroyer part 🤣
These situations show how easily an ally becomes an enemy! We supplied Iran, then Iraq, then we had to smoke both!
I have a question. Does anyone know if the Navy still has degaussing system onboard? As an electrician on an LSD in the 70's I got the system working. We ran Point Loma twice for testing. We were not detected.
Mines dont strike ships, its the other way around. And twice you mentioned A6s and showed footage of helicopters
Actually magnetic minds do. anchored mines not so much! This war is where I got my Armed forces expeditionary medal. Served on board the USS Esteem (MSO-438) 1984/88. We got there after the stark got hit. took a few months to get there LOL.
USA : If you start something .... finish it !!!!!
my conclusion is, USA is way too polite giving sometimes the enemy more than 10 warnings
Proportional response.
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looks like we are about to do this again...
The fat electrician channel has a video about this as well, quite entertaining it is
Allegedly it got real proportional 😂
when they fuck around and find out
and with histories tendency to repeat itself... they are about to find out again
The Iranians should have thought about that BEFORE they had made that decision...
Tell me: What of the USS Liberty?
Narrator took acting classes from William Shatner
Why do you keep saying "A6" and showing helicopters?
Bring back the days of Ronnie and ol jelly head
My two Westpac deployments were in this general timespan. 86/87 and 88/89. I hated being there then and still harbor a general dislike for that part of the world.
Allegiance and legality work hand in hand with criminal expectations. Iran and the USA either work to the same ends or are counter to the same extremes.
“May be illegal”? Not the first time, and won’t be the last time…..
That was the beginning of F Around and Find Out. They found out.
I served on an Ayatollah class destroyer; USS Callaghan DDG 994. We were in the area in the spring of 1987.
An international court looked at what the US did during operation Praying Mantis. We got off on a technicality.
Iran has to be put in its place now more than ever.
quis custodiet ipsos custodes
*Love this dude's voice. Best narration ever.*
Yes we have many of them
"Fired a lazer guided bomb" No, you DROP a lazer guided bomb. It is then guided in and has course corrections from the maneuverable tail fins.
Screw with a bull, you get the horns!!!
"Proportional"
No rules according to the Geneva Convention at the time….because Geneva didn’t know that could even happen.
Another good video, unfortunately ruined by the Music over powering the talking.
You got to do what you got to do
Maybe show which aircraft you’re talking about when mentioning them?
new here?
probably f35 that's never seen a battle lol
yeah... the history of Iran.. might be worth a read up on