What is not mentioned at all is that while the FLIR can focus under about 12 inches, the SEEK is 1 meter minimum so if you need the device to look at close up objects like electronics troubleshooting FLIR is the only choice. FLIR can also be powered and used at the same time so if you carry a backup battery it can work for both your phone or the FLIR camera, which can use the aux battery with a cable .
with the seek if you double tap your split screen, on the phone picture side you can adjust the picture to match the thermal shot. You can also size it with 2 fingers pinch.
I purchased the seek compact pro over the flir one for one specific reason: no battery. I only use the tool probably once every couple of months and I never know when I'll need it. The problem with the flir one is that unless you always keep it charged, it'll never be ready to use when you need to use it.
Seek should make a graphic interface so you could adjust the overlay on your phone either by moving one picture to fit with the other using the touchscreen or by letting you input a numerical value on how much one picture needs to be moved to fit with the other.
I don’t have the kind of money to buy any of this but I saw it in a advertisement and I’m now gonna watch a hours worth of phone mounted thermal camera reviews
If you're going to talk about seeks app you should learn how to use it. On split screen you double tap the picture then pinch to size and line the picture up with the thermal image.
Seek Thermal Compact series cameras can be used for a lot longer because they use the phone’s battery (which usually has a multi-hour battery life). You also don’t have to go through the whole process of charging it up each time you want to use it for a while.
Great comparison! I appreciate you running through the various performance aspects and not just focusing on the extendable connector like everyone else does.
Todd M AWFUL FLIR experience: I had the FLIR one and the refresh rate was so painfully slow (always freezes, really annoying) and the battery dramas (it always run out of battery for no reason), the overlay doesn’t really align properly and doesn’t work in darker environment. I normally don’t criticise anything but this was a VERY FRUSTRATING I was very unhappy with my FLIR One, sold it cheap and I may go Seek PRO next. I am happier having nothing at the moment than having something so frustrating that makes me angry every time I turn on and TRY to use.
My seek compact pro had a pretty large temperature deviation, I returned it and ordered a new one. Again big deviations. up to 9C. but once you know it's fine. To bad it had micro usb, and my new phone has usb. C. a simple adapter didn't work. Hopefully I can find a cable for it.
AWFUL FLIR experience: I had the FLIR one and the refresh rate was so painfully slow (always freezes, really annoying) and the battery dramas (it always run out of battery for no reason), the overlay doesn’t really align properly and doesn’t work in darker environment. I normally don’t criticise anything but this was a VERY FRUSTRATING I was very unhappy with my FLIR One, sold it cheap and I may go Seek PRO next. I am happier having nothing at the moment than having something so frustrating that makes me angry every time I turn on and TRY to use.
The short freezing every few seconds is normal. It is for calibration, there is a black calibration shutter than covers the sensors and calibrates it to known temperature and flat field. Then it restarts and continues. Even on high end hand held devices costing 10000$ it does that. But I do agree the frame rate looks a bit low. It is not a problem in most of applications, especially if you it has high resolution. But it is a bit annoying. I recommend having small tripod and bracket for holding a phone. Then all the movements are gone, and it makes it a bit nicer expirience, even with low framerate. Plus high resolution and high frame rate devices are export controlled (dual use as they could be used in military stuff like self guided rockets etc).
I had the seek xr and got rid of it and brought a flir one pro. mosley for the file format. dont reallt feel like i can trust any of them more than indicators.
I owned and regrettably sold a Seek for a Flir ... Even without the 15hz refresh the Seek had the better picture while moving around. I found the Flir only superior when you mount it to a tri-pod or just hold it looking at one spot 3-6 ft away. For those of use who walk around and search areas, the seek was remarkably better. Now with the 15hz refresh I am going to buy a new Seek pro.
Actually, with four times the pixels it DOES mean that Seek Thermal will always have a better, more accurate picture. MSX is a great tweak for people who, for whatever reason, want the picture to look prettier, and Seek Thermal shows way more detail, it also experiences much less noise, has a much greater detectable temperature envelope and it's sensor, as I personally found out after using then side by side, is way more accurate, has much grated detectable distance, etc. I'm really not sure how these two very different devices can even be compared when one costs $60 more, has a much lower resolution sensor, has am internal battery for whatever reason and a much lower refresh rate. Compact Pro is for the prosumers and professionals, Flir One is for posers who want their iPhone to have a buddy.
Seek compact series cameras can also be used for much longer than flir one cameras because they use the phone’s battery. I also think that the MSX just looks plain ugly.
I do this for a living. flir is absolutely the better choice no matter who is purchasing it. seek is very new to the industry. they have a reputable camera manufacturer but they lack the polish, tech, and software support that has taken flir so many years to perfect. even the guy in the video agrees that seek just isn't there yet. and the build quality of the seek if terrible and guaranteed to break prematurely. as the 2 products stand right now, you would have to be a fool to not go with flir. so don't listen to these to guys in this comment section. I mean we all have eyes, we saw how much cleaner and better the image quality was on the flir with msx on. so read the guys last sentence where he said that flir msx "looked plain ugly". That one statement should tell you all you need to know when pondering it you should trust what the guy said. its clear that he's bought the seek ir camera and just can't bring himself to the realization that he picked wrong. lol. either that or he's a shill for the company. trust what your eyes told you and go with flir. maybe 5 or 10 years down the road seek will be worthy of your money but not today.
@@caseydangar4414 Except it wasn't cleaner. What you had was lines from the camera superimposed which gave the eye the impression things were cleaner. What the Flir is no where near as good at is the actual temeprature gradients. Had this video shown the FLIR in any more BUT MSX mode it would have been immediately obvious that the Seek had far more thermal detail than the FLIR. So, the FLIR is better for doing work on electronics because of the image overlay, but the Seek will be far superior for things like heat leaks in a home inspection where you don't care about words and lines but the temperature of the scene alone.
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I bought the FLIR, but the Seek Compact Pro has 4X the resolution and 2x the refresh rate. The only thing FLIR has going for it is the visual camera overlay. Also, you can hook up a USB-C power plug to run the FLIR while its being used and run longer than 45 minutes.
Thanks for the good and complete comparison video, I need to buy one of these cheap thermal cameras, for inspections in my house, tubes, etc... So as I understood, for private use Seek is better also for resolution and details. Another ask, do you suggest for me also the Seek, not the pro version? or it's very different in performance?
The Seek Compact Pro is probably a good choice for you since it has higher IR resolution and you don't need the extra FLIR features like reporting in FLIR Tools. For using it at home, you might be alright with the base Seek Compact - this camera has 206x156 IR resolution compared to 320x240 on the Compact Pro. That said, we do recommend going with higher resolution if you can afford it since this will give you better images. You can check out both cameras on our site via these links. Seek Compact: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/Compact-iPhone/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/ Seek Compact Pro: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
OK these are great for seeing heat in an electrical panel, but what about using it to see inside walls before drilling? Will either one of these look inside the wall to show studs, pipes, or wires I might be drilling into?
Depending on some specifics, thermal imaging can be used to show you what is behind walls. That said, the technology only shows the surface temperature, so whatever you're attempting to detect needs to create a temperature difference. Some materials are better conductors than others, and insulation will inhibit any signal. A hot water line may be visible, but a cold water line is likely not detectable with thermal imaging.
I’m an Electrician, I’ve been using the FLIR pro for a while and it’s a great tool. If you load up a circuit you can clearly see it through the gyprock, you can also identify neutrals this way. Radiant heating pipes are very easy to identify. Bad splices light up like a Christmas tree. And depending on the temperature difference between two rooms the studs will stand out very clearly. It’s been a lot more useful than I thought it would be.
@@skyetube1 That's very useful to know. I'm probably going to go with the Flir Pro. Sure, it doesn't update the screen quite as fast, or have the higher res sensor, but properly overlayed sensor fusion more than makes up for that. I was worried about the sensitivity, but if you're spotting pipes and wires, that'll be enough for most uses.
One MAJOR disadvantage of Flir is that the functional battery life is exactly two years..... The guarantee period, after which you can literally throw it away because even if you change the battery, it just won't work. Obviously if this clip was filmed with a new camera, he couldn't have known. I've seen many other Flir owners totally disappointed with the same problem..... Flir would offer a discount if you have this problem and buy a new flir camera but frankly, I wouldn't dream of buying another flir camera. Original camera costs about 200€ more than seek and it comes with those cheap orange batteries that self destruct by balooning. Very disappointed with flir......and not the only one from many comments i saw on other youtube videos. Now i'm buying seek.....no need to worry about batteries! Bye Flir!
Very good comparison test, Thanks for doing it. I was looking at the Flir one pro. After watching this still leaning that way. Especially when hearing you can save files.
I'm dying, this comment section is too much 😅 Sorry if we are rude, the review was good but keep working on pacing both when speaking and when editing.
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The Seek Compact Pro has an advertised maximum detection range of 1,800 feet which is about 550 meters. FLIR has not published the detection range of the ONE Pro in the camera's datasheets - please contact us via phone at (877) 571-7901 or email Sales@tequipment.net and one of our experts will contact FLIR directly to look into this for you.
There are plenty of people out there on TH-cam and other media who use thermal cameras for this purpose - that said, we can't comment on how effective these cameras will be for this application.
I worked for 3.5 years in a ghost infested place where over 450 people died along the years, they run ghost tours, I did everything to see any ghost, lied and locked myself inside a coffin after midnight inside an old mortuary... no ghost came around... only wind and noises but this is just nature and wild life.
so you could 3D print a holder for the SEEK and attach it closer to the phone camera. (and use an extension cable to connect) I think I will do that. - 10:00. look at the ORANGE area from the Flir image. it looks like its warm there but on the SEEK it is not. a little bit misguiding, due to the lower sensitivity of the Flir (not good)
Your idea for a camera holder is great! We'd love to see it once completed. As for sensitivity, we filmed this video just before FLIR increased the ONE Pro's sensitivity via firmware update to 70mK - this means the sensitivity is actually the same for both cameras. The issue you bring up at 10:00 is likely due to the different color palettes being used on each camera. I would say that the FLIR is actually showing a more accurate thermal picture there since most breakers would be slightly warm and you can clearly see some variation between them thanks to the bright orange - on Seek, all but the warmest breakers appear dark purple and it's difficult to see which ones are warmer/colder.
For Scare Tactics and trying to drum up work from a client the Flir is the obvious choice. But for practicality and real-world usefulness the Seek Beat It hands down.
Seek does give you better specifications, but we consistently hear from professionals that the robust FLIR software and reporting suite included with the ONE Pro is a major deal breaker. Seek has no reporting/analysis software at this time.
@@TEquipment You said "Seek has no reporting/analysis software at this time." I said "For Scare Tactics and trying to drum up work". So yeah, you just repeated what I said but in bizspeak.
i thint, can make a special frame to fix the camera on safe place, using a cable for more security with usb crashes etc., can use a smal cord, or mandatory use direct phone ?
The camera doesn't have to be directly connected to the phone's input jack - you can use an extension cable to have the camera at a distance from your phone.
WebMagrinho some of the units still have connectivity issues. Of the two Flir Pro's, both had battery issues within 6 months and one of the two had usb-c connectivity issues. Returned them for the stand alone version, FLIR C2 and it has worked out wonderfully so far. So much that we have now purchased 4.
Both cameras work well outdoors but neither is really intended for hunting use, they are more suited to home inspection, auto repair, and HVAC. That said, the Seek Compact Pro does have an advertised maximum range of 1,800ft. FLIR ONE Pro doesn't have a maximum range published but it should be similar. We have a broad range of sporting/hunting thermal optics in a similar price range as these cameras - you can find them here: www.tequipment.net/Sporting-Hunting-Law-Enforcement-Optics/thermal-monoculars/#/sporting-hunting-law-enforcement-optics/thermal-monoculars/?F_Sort=3
For that application we would recommend the Seek Compact Pro simply because it has higher resolution. That will be beneficial when looking at small components on a PCB. You also probably won't need the extra features included on the FLIR ONE Pro. Check it out on our site here: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Very good review. I haven't tried either of these yet but I think I will consider buying one of these instead of a full flir camera. As was mentioned in several comments, the pace of this video is way too slow but keep it up! it takes practice to get good at anything!
FLIR does include software but we can't confirm that it has this function. Seek definitely cannot do this as it does not include software. Please contact us via phone at (877) 571-7901, email Sales@tequipment.net, or live chat on www.tequipment.net and our thermal cameras experts will help you.
The CompactPro has higher resolution so it should be able to pick up temperature details from farther away. It also has a narrower field of view, meaning the images will appear more "zoomed in" than on the ONE Pro. We would recommend CompactPro if detection range is your biggest concern.
What's the deal with the FlirOnes battery life issues? Anyone have any information on weather or not they all only last about a year before having charging issues?
It would've been nice to: 1) Have larger side by side images 2) side by side comparison between the two outside at night with no ambient lighting across a known distance (like a football field) and then during the day at the same distances. 3) comparison between the two of fast moving objects like cars taken from an overpass. 4) comparison of images of objects with close temperature differences between object and background (like balls floating in water)
Great review. I'm looking to purchase one that I can use to make some art pieces by capturing (via the video feature) an ice climbing via one of these devices. Which do you think is best for these purposes? Also, I will not use it all beyond this purpose but since I will be showing these pieces, I would like a high resolution thermal image.
Of these two cameras, the FLIR ONE Pro would be best because the sensor is better. On the Seek, even with higher resolution, the images are quite grainy at times. That said, for the best quality image you would likely want to go with higher resolution - keep that in mind if you are considering other cameras. You can browse all of our thermal cameras here: www.tequipment.net/thermal-imagers/building-and-industrial-thermal-imagers/
Not so good for that. Originally I wanted to use my FLIR for night hikes to recognize nocturnal animals. The heat signature is too small at a distance.
I've read that the lightning plug can be manually adjusted/extended on the FLIR so that you can plug it in and use it with a protective case on your smart phone. How does that compare to the Seek in that regard? Is the Seek usable with, for example, an Otterbox case on an i-phone?
The FLIR should work perfectly with most cases because of the built-in adjustable connector. Seek Compact PRO does not have any accommodation for phone cases built into the unit. From Seek's website: "Some thicker smartphone cases (especially ruggedized ones) do not provide enough clearance around the connection port. To use the camera you must either remove the case, or attach the camera using an extender/adapter." See this link from Seek: support.thermal.com/hc/en-us/articles/206237876-USB-Adapters-for-Seek-Compact
The Compact Pro has higher IR resolution than the ONE Pro, but the Compact Pro doesn't have any image blending capability. On the ONE Pro, you get powerful FLIR MSX which adds a high level of detail to thermal images so you can really see what you are looking at. For seeing tiny components on a motherboard, you might want the MSX feature on FLIR so you can see exactly which components are hot. Check them both out on our site below. FLIR ONE Pro: bit.ly/32CcKU9 Seek Compact Pro: bit.ly/3n9OZfW
You can find more info on device compatibility for each unit at the links below. Seek: support.thermal.com/hc/en-us/articles/204641029-Compact-Series-Phone-Compatibility FLIR: www.flir.com/support-center/flir-one/flir-one-device-compatibility/
Thanks for sharing this. Do you think that we can expect higher resolutions like this one from seek pro integrated into a smartphone like the CAT s61 this year ? I would like to see a better distance meter also, 8m isn't useful at all, i need at least 50m to leave my Leica D2 at home. Thanks
According to the user manual for the S61, this phone's thermal camera has a resolution of only 80x60. This means the ONE Pro and Compact PRO both beat this phone in terms of IR resolution. It's likely that integrated IR camera phones will eventually reach this point, but since Cat just released the S61 last year, it will likely be at least another year for anything new from them.
(FLIR One Pro owner) Even with the "perceived" higher resolution and specs on the Seek on paper, the FLIR One Pro is much better in every aspect, especially image quality (JPEG images, video recording, PDF reporting too), is truly a usable portable device for any electrician. A Must have.
AscendedSaiyan3 yes I am an electrician, AWFUL FLIR experience: I had the FLIR one and the refresh rate was so painfully slow (always freezes, really annoying) and the battery dramas (it always run out of battery for no reason), the overlay doesn’t really align properly and doesn’t work in darker environment. I normally don’t criticise anything but this was a VERY FRUSTRATING I was very unhappy with my FLIR One, sold it cheap and I may go Seek PRO next. I am happier having nothing at the moment than having something so frustrating that makes me angry every time I turn on and TRY to use.
I want to choose which one is right for me to work at home, unfortunately I do not understand the meaning of your video, but would like to know what you could recommend for a personal home?
If you need more information, please contact us directly (via www.tequipment.net) and ask to speak with a thermal expert. For personal use at home, we recommend you go with a smartphone-based camera like the two featured in this video - these types of IR cameras will be the cheapest and best "bang for the buck" value. The new FLIR ONE Pro LT is one of the best value options available: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/ONE-PRO-LT-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
I have a drone, from DJI, I found something regarding using these cheap thermal cameras to put on board of it but very difficult, Do you think I could use a little smartphone to put together on the drone in your opinion?
In theory yes, you could rig something up but it would definitely require a bit of fabrication/hacking to make it all fit and work together. Also be aware of the drone's maximum payload limit. You would have to make sure that adding the phone and camera would not exceed that limit.
...I forgot another question regarding the FLIR One Pro: Can it be charged simultaneously during operation? So, if you want to extend the 1h battery life, would it be possible to keep it fed via power bank / charger? I guess it's internal battery is non removable, so if battery is discharged or ageing, no easy way to replace it with a charged / new one, am I right? Thanks!
In theory yes, you could have the ONE Pro plugged into a power bank during operation to extend the runtime. The charging port is a USB-C port that is separate from the phone connector.
Thanks for this review! It seems to me that the Flir is all around by far a better made and more polished product, that's part of a whole lineup of professional devices. Made for the pocket and weekend warrior, but just breaking into the software etc of the high end gear. This encourages the next purchase to be a higher end model as it will serve you well. The seek... seems like it had a great intention in its design but just lacks in so many areas.
That's a pretty accurate read on these two devices. ONE Pro is backed by a well-established IR camera company with decades in the industry - overall, the interface is more polished, construction is a bit better, and features are more fleshed-out. Seek is a newer player in the industry so they are still working out some of the kinks. That said, they bring some good points to the table like higher resolution but overall we do recommend FLIR to most users. The latest Seek ShotPro is their best camera to date - many issues have been fixed and new features have been added. If you're curious, you can check out our comparison vs the FLIR C5 here: th-cam.com/video/s-fEjPCFU1A/w-d-xo.html
hola a todos una pregunta que tipo de archivo genera la cámara seek, es radiométrico? se puede utilizar un sofware de edición para aplicar efectos y paletas de colores ? desde ya muchas gracias
Seek Pro has remarkably faster output refresh rate than the Flir. I can't honestly see why/how the Flir is so expensive - apart from them having the whole marketplace in Thermal Imaging - *once*
The FLIR ONE Pro is actually now on sale for only $399 on TEquipment.net - that's more that $150 less than the Seek Compact Pro. FLIR ONE Pro: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/OnePro-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/ Seek Compact Pro: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
The latest model actually has an adjustable Lightning adapter built-in which you can extend/retract to fit perfectly with almost any iPhone case. FLIR calls it the OneFit adjustable connector. Check it out here: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/OnePro-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Thank you, Your review helps me a lot. :) I have a first gen FLIR and was looking for a better unit to take outdoors. The Seek looks perfect for what I need.
Why on earth didn't you use SCREEN CAPTURE to showcase the cameras quality? From where your at its probably easy to see the differences but from our side of the screen can't see a damn thing...
This is certainly a big drawback for many users when comparing FLIR vs Seek - Seek is currently working on their own analysis software but no release date has been announced yet.
I checked several audio amplifer with my flir one 2, and msx is very important with correct parallax too, otherwise you can't identify the point of interest. A themal camera without msx is useless.
@ the flir one II is similar to Flir one pro: no manual focus. But i find difficult to identify the point, the focus is not an issue for me but the shape of the object make the difference because can help to identify it. If the focus distance is really very close, less than 30 cm, i agree with you.
Hello, I have the Flir C2 and HTI HT-09. C2 is good, but a little slow. HTI good, but no firmwares updates. I want another to help me to repair electronic circuits. Can you give me any advice, please? Do you think that HTI make goods devices? A lot of thanks.
We do not carry HTI and are not familiar with this brand. We recommend Seek Thermal or FLIR due to proven performance and strong product support. The Seek Shot and ShotPRO might work for your application. Also keep an eye out for the new FLIR C5 which was just announced today. www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/Shot/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/ www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/ShotPRO/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
If I have a xtra phone laying around that does not have service( it IS NOT CONNECTED TO A PHONE PROVIDER) would the flir one or the seek pro still work? Could I use either one with a phone that is not hooked up with phone service...... thanks for any help
We can't confirm this with total certainty but it's likely that this would work based on the fact that the cameras are compatible with specific iPod Touch models (not cellular devices). That said, you would still need a connection to WiFi in order to download each camera's respective apps (phone-based IR cameras won't work without their apps). If you want to be 100% sure it would work, we recommend you contact Seek Support: support.thermal.com/hc/en-us
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Thank you for the video. Seek Compact Pro is better, but it is not the same price.
The FLIR ONE Pro is currently discounted and is cheaper than the Compact Pro - check them out on our website. FLIR ONE Pro: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/OnePro-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/ Seek Compact Pro: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Hello, I'm looking for a camera that has a long shutter speed to look at mountainsides for temperature differences. Do you know which one would be best? I suppose it does not need to be a really good one, because it does not have a short shutter speed like the pros use. But likely it needs an adjustable shutter speed and every pixel needs uniform sensitivity. It also probably needs a long focal length or range. Would you be able to point me in the right direction, I'm looking for something less than $300?
In reality, shutter speed is not a main consideration for most thermal imaging applications. Specifically for your application, since you're shooting a landscape, you likely don't need super fast exposure times. The camera's field of view and resolution/sensitivity are much more important considerations. You also need a camera with long range depending on the distance you are from the mountainside. To give you the best advice possible we need more information on your application. We suggest that you contact one of our product experts - we have certified thermographers on-staff who can help you find exactly what you need. You can call us at (877) 571-7901, email Sales@TEquipment.net, or live chat on www.tequipment.net/ at the bottom right of every site page.
Shooting from the exterior should reveal where exterior foam board insulation is missing, but it won't reveal gaps in fiberglass insulation installed behind interior drywall. This is because the walls from the exterior are too thick for the IR camera to see interior insulation. To check out your interior insulation, shoot from inside the building - the thermal camera will easily be able to detect the temperature differences behind the drywall which will show you where insulation is missing.
IMAGES ARE MIRRORED ON COMPARISON, ONE IS UPSIDE DOWN> great video however I have a complaint, the obvious one. You have compaired images, thats awesome. But one of the images is upside down from the other, so the comparison looks fishy if one does not notice that. SO
We used the same iPhone to shoot each video of the exact same breaker panel, and we shot each video in landscape orientation. ONE Pro has an auto-orientation feature that adjusts the FLIR/temperature overlays to match your orientation - Seek does not have this feature. So, in those video clips, you see the Seek video taken in landscape orientation but the overlays remain in portrait orientation - that's why it appears upside down.
Put your TH-cam play speed at 1.25x or 1.5x and this review is much better.
At 2x it's better.
Hot damn am I glad I saw this right when I started the video.
I do 1.5 for all you tube clips. Bloody brilliant
Holy crap I didn't even know you could do this. You just changed my life.
Alpha Whiskey your life will now go by 1.5 times faster.
What is not mentioned at all is that while the FLIR can focus under about 12 inches, the SEEK is 1 meter minimum so if you need the device to look at close up objects like electronics troubleshooting FLIR is the only choice. FLIR can also be powered and used at the same time so if you carry a backup battery it can work for both your phone or the FLIR camera, which can use the aux battery with a cable .
Yes but you can use a macro lens for the SEEK, but it's a valid point all the same
with the seek if you double tap your split screen, on the phone picture side you can adjust the picture to match the thermal shot. You can also size it with 2 fingers pinch.
You really get the sense that thermography is a field of true passion and excitement. Thanks for the useful information though.
I purchased the seek compact pro over the flir one for one specific reason: no battery. I only use the tool probably once every couple of months and I never know when I'll need it. The problem with the flir one is that unless you always keep it charged, it'll never be ready to use when you need to use it.
Use a USB extension and fix the seek next to the camera to reduce parallax
That'll work a bit better, but properly overlaying is way better.
Double tap in the vis cam image, adjust position and zoom with two fingers.
Edit: nobody reads the manuals...
Seek should make a graphic interface so you could adjust the overlay on your phone either by moving one picture to fit with the other using the touchscreen or by letting you input a numerical value on how much one picture needs to be moved to fit with the other.
Kudos on a thorough and well done presentation! Thank you!!!
I don’t have the kind of money to buy any of this but I saw it in a advertisement and I’m now gonna watch a hours worth of phone mounted thermal camera reviews
I think the flir is like 200 bucks or so
If you're going to talk about seeks app you should learn how to use it. On split screen you double tap the picture then pinch to size and line the picture up with the thermal image.
Seek Thermal Compact series cameras can be used for a lot longer because they use the phone’s battery (which usually has a multi-hour battery life). You also don’t have to go through the whole process of charging it up each time you want to use it for a while.
Great comparison! I appreciate you running through the various performance aspects and not just focusing on the extendable connector like everyone else does.
Todd M AWFUL FLIR experience: I had the FLIR one and the refresh rate was so painfully slow (always freezes, really annoying) and the battery dramas (it always run out of battery for no reason), the overlay doesn’t really align properly and doesn’t work in darker environment. I normally don’t criticise anything but this was a VERY FRUSTRATING I was very unhappy with my FLIR One, sold it cheap and I may go Seek PRO next. I am happier having nothing at the moment than having something so frustrating that makes me angry every time I turn on and TRY to use.
Now when you say "run"..
My seek compact pro had a pretty large temperature deviation, I returned it and ordered a new one. Again big deviations. up to 9C. but once you know it's fine.
To bad it had micro usb, and my new phone has usb. C. a simple adapter didn't work. Hopefully I can find a cable for it.
You are a real trooper doing this video even though your dog died just this morning.
AWFUL FLIR experience: I had the FLIR one and the refresh rate was so painfully slow (always freezes, really annoying) and the battery dramas (it always run out of battery for no reason), the overlay doesn’t really align properly and doesn’t work in darker environment. I normally don’t criticise anything but this was a VERY FRUSTRATING I was very unhappy with my FLIR One, sold it cheap and I may go Seek PRO next. I am happier having nothing at the moment than having something so frustrating that makes me angry every time I turn on and TRY to use.
The short freezing every few seconds is normal. It is for calibration, there is a black calibration shutter than covers the sensors and calibrates it to known temperature and flat field. Then it restarts and continues. Even on high end hand held devices costing 10000$ it does that.
But I do agree the frame rate looks a bit low. It is not a problem in most of applications, especially if you it has high resolution. But it is a bit annoying. I recommend having small tripod and bracket for holding a phone. Then all the movements are gone, and it makes it a bit nicer expirience, even with low framerate. Plus high resolution and high frame rate devices are export controlled (dual use as they could be used in military stuff like self guided rockets etc).
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I had the seek xr and got rid of it and brought a flir one pro. mosley for the file format. dont reallt feel like i can trust any of them more than indicators.
Agree, the Flir One sucks, its going back. Sikh Turban Pro is my next purchase.
FOLLOW UP: I PURCHASED BOTH THE SEEK AND THE FLIR. I ULTIMATELY KEPT THE FLIR AND SENT THE SEEK BACK. FLIR WAS WAY BETTER.
11 min 31 Seconds ago I was wondering which of these two awesome affordable devices to get, and now I'm still wondering, sad ...
Neither, they're both pretty lackluster.
The Seek app forces access to your camera from server, not just device. Not sure if Flir also does that
у flir только за счет msr кажется что лучше, а на самом деле точек больше у seek, в темноте seek покажет лучшее изображение.
Phenomenal, very discreet and no bias.
With luck more will find this channel and enjoy the fact based reviews. I know I do!
Cheers!
Thank you! Glad this was helpful to you.
Annoying not to actually get to see a full-size video from each - why not show us this? Makes it quite hard to judge the quality!
The videos shown from each were already greater than their full resolution; making them larger would not change their quality.
dude you need your own youtube channel you are intelligent unlike vast majority of youtubers, nobody here even knows what qualitative is
I owned and regrettably sold a Seek for a Flir ... Even without the 15hz refresh the Seek had the better picture while moving around. I found the Flir only superior when you mount it to a tri-pod or just hold it looking at one spot 3-6 ft away. For those of use who walk around and search areas, the seek was remarkably better. Now with the 15hz refresh I am going to buy a new Seek pro.
The Seek website specs state 9hz frame rate for the Compact Pro...
@@PhilippZ It's 15hz outside of USA, because in america you cant have over 9hz infrared cameras.
Great Video! thanks for the detailed comparison
I believe the problem with the Seek is the colour palette. Even with only thermal, the FLIR looks much nicer.
You can change the palette in the seek app. "Iron" is the best for human eyes, IMO.
Great review I have ever seen! Thank you very much!
Much appreciated! More are coming soon.
Your video helped me make a decision. Thank You!
A very helpful comparison. Many thanks.
Best review I have seen. Thanks!
Nice evaluation. Thanks. Thank you so much. (1.5 speed is better to watch.)
Great video when we compared to others, really professional. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Actually, with four times the pixels it DOES mean that Seek Thermal will always have a better, more accurate picture. MSX is a great tweak for people who, for whatever reason, want the picture to look prettier, and Seek Thermal shows way more detail, it also experiences much less noise, has a much greater detectable temperature envelope and it's sensor, as I personally found out after using then side by side, is way more accurate, has much grated detectable distance, etc. I'm really not sure how these two very different devices can even be compared when one costs $60 more, has a much lower resolution sensor, has am internal battery for whatever reason and a much lower refresh rate.
Compact Pro is for the prosumers and professionals, Flir One is for posers who want their iPhone to have a buddy.
Seek compact series cameras can also be used for much longer than flir one cameras because they use the phone’s battery. I also think that the MSX just looks plain ugly.
I do this for a living. flir is absolutely the better choice no matter who is purchasing it. seek is very new to the industry. they have a reputable camera manufacturer but they lack the polish, tech, and software support that has taken flir so many years to perfect. even the guy in the video agrees that seek just isn't there yet. and the build quality of the seek if terrible and guaranteed to break prematurely. as the 2 products stand right now, you would have to be a fool to not go with flir. so don't listen to these to guys in this comment section. I mean we all have eyes, we saw how much cleaner and better the image quality was on the flir with msx on. so read the guys last sentence where he said that flir msx "looked plain ugly". That one statement should tell you all you need to know when pondering it you should trust what the guy said. its clear that he's bought the seek ir camera and just can't bring himself to the realization that he picked wrong. lol. either that or he's a shill for the company. trust what your eyes told you and go with flir. maybe 5 or 10 years down the road seek will be worthy of your money but not today.
@@caseydangar4414 Except it wasn't cleaner. What you had was lines from the camera superimposed which gave the eye the impression things were cleaner. What the Flir is no where near as good at is the actual temeprature gradients. Had this video shown the FLIR in any more BUT MSX mode it would have been immediately obvious that the Seek had far more thermal detail than the FLIR.
So, the FLIR is better for doing work on electronics because of the image overlay, but the Seek will be far superior for things like heat leaks in a home inspection where you don't care about words and lines but the temperature of the scene alone.
Exactly the video I was looking for. Great information, thank you.
Very informative review, thank you!
Thank you! Very informative review.
Thanks for the good information I'm shopping for one of these low-end thermal cameras .👍
No problem! Let us know if you have any questions. You can also live chat with product experts on our website www.tequipment.net/ anytime Monday-Friday from 7am-7pm EST.
I bought the FLIR, but the Seek Compact Pro has 4X the resolution and 2x the refresh rate.
The only thing FLIR has going for it is the visual camera overlay.
Also, you can hook up a USB-C power plug to run the FLIR while its being used and run longer than 45 minutes.
and that's how serious people makes a very good Comparison/review
Thanks for the good and complete comparison video, I need to buy one of these cheap thermal cameras, for inspections in my house, tubes, etc... So as I understood, for private use Seek is better also for resolution and details. Another ask, do you suggest for me also the Seek, not the pro version? or it's very different in performance?
The Seek Compact Pro is probably a good choice for you since it has higher IR resolution and you don't need the extra FLIR features like reporting in FLIR Tools. For using it at home, you might be alright with the base Seek Compact - this camera has 206x156 IR resolution compared to 320x240 on the Compact Pro. That said, we do recommend going with higher resolution if you can afford it since this will give you better images. You can check out both cameras on our site via these links.
Seek Compact: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/Compact-iPhone/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Seek Compact Pro: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
OK these are great for seeing heat in an electrical panel, but what about using it to see inside walls before drilling? Will either one of these look inside the wall to show studs, pipes, or wires I might be drilling into?
Depending on some specifics, thermal imaging can be used to show you what is behind walls. That said, the technology only shows the surface temperature, so whatever you're attempting to detect needs to create a temperature difference. Some materials are better conductors than others, and insulation will inhibit any signal. A hot water line may be visible, but a cold water line is likely not detectable with thermal imaging.
Fill the tube with hot water and see its path in the wall. Connect a powerful heater into the socket, when the wire warms up - you will see it)))
I’m an Electrician, I’ve been using the FLIR pro for a while and it’s a great tool. If you load up a circuit you can clearly see it through the gyprock, you can also identify neutrals this way. Radiant heating pipes are very easy to identify. Bad splices light up like a Christmas tree. And depending on the temperature difference between two rooms the studs will stand out very clearly. It’s been a lot more useful than I thought it would be.
@@skyetube1 That's very useful to know. I'm probably going to go with the Flir Pro. Sure, it doesn't update the screen quite as fast, or have the higher res sensor, but properly overlayed sensor fusion more than makes up for that. I was worried about the sensitivity, but if you're spotting pipes and wires, that'll be enough for most uses.
One MAJOR disadvantage of Flir is that the functional battery life is exactly two years..... The guarantee period, after which you can literally throw it away because even if you change the battery, it just won't work. Obviously if this clip was filmed with a new camera, he couldn't have known. I've seen many other Flir owners totally disappointed with the same problem..... Flir would offer a discount if you have this problem and buy a new flir camera but frankly, I wouldn't dream of buying another flir camera. Original camera costs about 200€ more than seek and it comes with those cheap orange batteries that self destruct by balooning. Very disappointed with flir......and not the only one from many comments i saw on other youtube videos. Now i'm buying seek.....no need to worry about batteries! Bye Flir!
Very good comparison test, Thanks for doing it. I was looking at the Flir one pro. After watching this still leaning that way. Especially when hearing you can save files.
You can save video and Picts with the seek also.
@@jeffs.6488 They were talking about saving the raw thermal file for later/external analysis.
I returned my new Flir one pro after a day, the darn thing never took the charge and never turned on.
Same experience with two of ours. Terrible battery management firmware.
@@stevey500 Do you know if FLIR fixed the battery issue?
hope you can test Infiray Phone thermal, that seems to be better in image quality
Nice review. Thank you.
Thanks for the review, but he reminds me of the sloth from zootropolis 🤪
I'm dying, this comment section is too much 😅 Sorry if we are rude, the review was good but keep working on pacing both when speaking and when editing.
I don't laugh out loud much, but when I do, it's usually after reading of someone sloth-like being compared to a sloth.
Does it provide secondary development kit and have high frame rate, like InfiRay p2 pro?
amazing video , thanks for the knowledge .
Hello, I am correct understand that if i will buy Seek Thermal Pro i can”t just usually take it with me to another country?
Hello! The United States strictly regulates the export of thermal imagers. Feel free to review our export compliance laws here: www.tequipment.net/service/export-compliance/
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hello, which has greater detection range? in meters. Thank you 😊✌️
The Seek Compact Pro has an advertised maximum detection range of 1,800 feet which is about 550 meters. FLIR has not published the detection range of the ONE Pro in the camera's datasheets - please contact us via phone at (877) 571-7901 or email Sales@tequipment.net and one of our experts will contact FLIR directly to look into this for you.
When he was asked to appear in this video he didn’t know where to look.
Good review, thanks for making the video.
Thanks for watching!
can use for ghost hunting?
There are plenty of people out there on TH-cam and other media who use thermal cameras for this purpose - that said, we can't comment on how effective these cameras will be for this application.
Yes of course it can, but it will be a waste since a $5 toy camera will help you find just as many actual ghosts.
[Un]fortunately, most "ghosts" happen to be misunderstood thermal emissivity and strong belief that "brighter = hotter".
I worked for 3.5 years in a ghost infested place where over 450 people died along the years, they run ghost tours, I did everything to see any ghost, lied and locked myself inside a coffin after midnight inside an old mortuary... no ghost came around... only wind and noises but this is just nature and wild life.
That's probably because you are the ghost
so you could 3D print a holder for the SEEK and attach it closer to the phone camera.
(and use an extension cable to connect) I think I will do that.
- 10:00. look at the ORANGE area from the Flir image. it looks like its warm there but on the SEEK it is not.
a little bit misguiding, due to the lower sensitivity of the Flir (not good)
Your idea for a camera holder is great! We'd love to see it once completed. As for sensitivity, we filmed this video just before FLIR increased the ONE Pro's sensitivity via firmware update to 70mK - this means the sensitivity is actually the same for both cameras. The issue you bring up at 10:00 is likely due to the different color palettes being used on each camera. I would say that the FLIR is actually showing a more accurate thermal picture there since most breakers would be slightly warm and you can clearly see some variation between them thanks to the bright orange - on Seek, all but the warmest breakers appear dark purple and it's difficult to see which ones are warmer/colder.
For Scare Tactics and trying to drum up work from a client the Flir is the obvious choice. But for practicality and real-world usefulness the Seek Beat It hands down.
Seek does give you better specifications, but we consistently hear from professionals that the robust FLIR software and reporting suite included with the ONE Pro is a major deal breaker. Seek has no reporting/analysis software at this time.
@@TEquipment You said "Seek has no reporting/analysis software at this time." I said "For Scare Tactics and trying to drum up work". So yeah, you just repeated what I said but in bizspeak.
Thanks for sharing.
What about the temp range of measurement of both these devices?
Closeup (macro) comparison for motherboard repair?
How do these compare to the Thermal Expert Q1 or M1?
This is very good review thanks
Nice comparison
Flir 1 pro gets my vote
i thint, can make a special frame to fix the camera on safe place, using a cable for more security with usb crashes etc., can use a smal cord, or mandatory use direct phone ?
The camera doesn't have to be directly connected to the phone's input jack - you can use an extension cable to have the camera at a distance from your phone.
excelent '-'
WebMagrinho some of the units still have connectivity issues. Of the two Flir Pro's, both had battery issues within 6 months and one of the two had usb-c connectivity issues. Returned them for the stand alone version, FLIR C2 and it has worked out wonderfully so far. So much that we have now purchased 4.
How do they do outside in the woods? And which one do you think is better? Can they be used for hunting?
Both cameras work well outdoors but neither is really intended for hunting use, they are more suited to home inspection, auto repair, and HVAC. That said, the Seek Compact Pro does have an advertised maximum range of 1,800ft. FLIR ONE Pro doesn't have a maximum range published but it should be similar. We have a broad range of sporting/hunting thermal optics in a similar price range as these cameras - you can find them here: www.tequipment.net/Sporting-Hunting-Law-Enforcement-Optics/thermal-monoculars/#/sporting-hunting-law-enforcement-optics/thermal-monoculars/?F_Sort=3
@@TEquipment thanks so much for this information. I'll check this site out.
Thank you for the comparisons. Is one any better over the other to identify overheating resistors on a circuit board?
For that application we would recommend the Seek Compact Pro simply because it has higher resolution. That will be beneficial when looking at small components on a PCB. You also probably won't need the extra features included on the FLIR ONE Pro. Check it out on our site here: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
WHATS THE BEST ONE FOR CELL PHONE REPAIR?? Thanks jay
For an application like this where you are looking at very small components, the Seek will likely perform better due to higher infrared resolution.
Very good review. I haven't tried either of these yet but I think I will consider buying one of these instead of a full flir camera. As was mentioned in several comments, the pace of this video is way too slow but keep it up! it takes practice to get good at anything!
Both devices have application software that can be set to notify In case the temperature is higher than the specified value?
FLIR does include software but we can't confirm that it has this function. Seek definitely cannot do this as it does not include software. Please contact us via phone at (877) 571-7901, email Sales@tequipment.net, or live chat on www.tequipment.net and our thermal cameras experts will help you.
Why it considered as a weapon
Or it wordplay?
Haven't read all the comments but I'd like to know which of the 2 pick up heat the farthest? 3 meters, 10 meters away or what? thanks again
The CompactPro has higher resolution so it should be able to pick up temperature details from farther away. It also has a narrower field of view, meaning the images will appear more "zoomed in" than on the ONE Pro. We would recommend CompactPro if detection range is your biggest concern.
Great video, thanks.
What's the deal with the FlirOnes battery life issues? Anyone have any information on weather or not they all only last about a year before having charging issues?
Some incorrect information on the One Pro's sensitivity. It's 70mk not 150mk. They both have the same sensitivity.
Yes we are aware. This video was made prior to a firmware update by FLIR which increased the sensitivity of the ONE Pro to 70mK.
@@TEquipment Hmm, interesting. The real question would be then is it a software trick or true resolution increase.
It would've been nice to:
1) Have larger side by side images
2) side by side comparison between the two outside at night with no ambient lighting across a known distance (like a football field) and then during the day at the same distances.
3) comparison between the two of fast moving objects like cars taken from an overpass.
4) comparison of images of objects with close temperature differences between object and background (like balls floating in water)
Thank you for the suggestions! These are great ideas, we'll try to incorporate some in future comparisons.
Great review. I'm looking to purchase one that I can use to make some art pieces by capturing (via the video feature) an ice climbing via one of these devices. Which do you think is best for these purposes? Also, I will not use it all beyond this purpose but since I will be showing these pieces, I would like a high resolution thermal image.
Of these two cameras, the FLIR ONE Pro would be best because the sensor is better. On the Seek, even with higher resolution, the images are quite grainy at times. That said, for the best quality image you would likely want to go with higher resolution - keep that in mind if you are considering other cameras. You can browse all of our thermal cameras here: www.tequipment.net/thermal-imagers/building-and-industrial-thermal-imagers/
Has anyone used any of these cameras for observing wildlife at night? Is it useful for that? If yes, till what distance?
Seek was pretty good at this (non-pro). Especially since you could set long / medium range focus
Not so good for that. Originally I wanted to use my FLIR for night hikes to recognize nocturnal animals. The heat signature is too small at a distance.
I've read that the lightning plug can be manually adjusted/extended on the FLIR so that you can plug it in and use it with a protective case on your smart phone. How does that compare to the Seek in that regard? Is the Seek usable with, for example, an Otterbox case on an i-phone?
The FLIR should work perfectly with most cases because of the built-in adjustable connector. Seek Compact PRO does not have any accommodation for phone cases built into the unit. From Seek's website: "Some thicker smartphone cases (especially ruggedized ones) do not provide enough clearance around the connection port. To use the camera you must either remove the case, or attach the camera using an extender/adapter." See this link from Seek: support.thermal.com/hc/en-us/articles/206237876-USB-Adapters-for-Seek-Compact
for motherboard repair who is the best ?
The Compact Pro has higher IR resolution than the ONE Pro, but the Compact Pro doesn't have any image blending capability. On the ONE Pro, you get powerful FLIR MSX which adds a high level of detail to thermal images so you can really see what you are looking at. For seeing tiny components on a motherboard, you might want the MSX feature on FLIR so you can see exactly which components are hot. Check them both out on our site below.
FLIR ONE Pro: bit.ly/32CcKU9
Seek Compact Pro: bit.ly/3n9OZfW
Either of these units can be used with a iOS or Android Tablet... correct(?)
You can find more info on device compatibility for each unit at the links below.
Seek: support.thermal.com/hc/en-us/articles/204641029-Compact-Series-Phone-Compatibility
FLIR: www.flir.com/support-center/flir-one/flir-one-device-compatibility/
Thanks for sharing this. Do you think that we can expect higher resolutions like this one from seek pro integrated into a smartphone like the CAT s61 this year ? I would like to see a better distance meter also, 8m isn't useful at all, i need at least 50m to leave my Leica D2 at home. Thanks
According to the user manual for the S61, this phone's thermal camera has a resolution of only 80x60. This means the ONE Pro and Compact PRO both beat this phone in terms of IR resolution. It's likely that integrated IR camera phones will eventually reach this point, but since Cat just released the S61 last year, it will likely be at least another year for anything new from them.
(FLIR One Pro owner) Even with the "perceived" higher resolution and specs on the Seek on paper, the FLIR One Pro is much better in every aspect, especially image quality (JPEG images, video recording, PDF reporting too), is truly a usable portable device for any electrician. A Must have.
It seems like the overlay feature is only useful in the daylight. No light equals no overlay.
AscendedSaiyan3 yes I am an electrician, AWFUL FLIR experience: I had the FLIR one and the refresh rate was so painfully slow (always freezes, really annoying) and the battery dramas (it always run out of battery for no reason), the overlay doesn’t really align properly and doesn’t work in darker environment. I normally don’t criticise anything but this was a VERY FRUSTRATING I was very unhappy with my FLIR One, sold it cheap and I may go Seek PRO next. I am happier having nothing at the moment than having something so frustrating that makes me angry every time I turn on and TRY to use.
Thank you! Is it good to scope buildings?
Flir or seek as a dashcam????
I want to choose which one is right for me to work at home, unfortunately I do not understand the meaning of your video, but would like to know what you could recommend for a personal home?
If you need more information, please contact us directly (via www.tequipment.net) and ask to speak with a thermal expert. For personal use at home, we recommend you go with a smartphone-based camera like the two featured in this video - these types of IR cameras will be the cheapest and best "bang for the buck" value. The new FLIR ONE Pro LT is one of the best value options available: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/ONE-PRO-LT-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
I have a drone, from DJI, I found something regarding using these cheap thermal cameras to put on board of it but very difficult, Do you think I could use a little smartphone to put together on the drone in your opinion?
In theory yes, you could rig something up but it would definitely require a bit of fabrication/hacking to make it all fit and work together. Also be aware of the drone's maximum payload limit. You would have to make sure that adding the phone and camera would not exceed that limit.
...I forgot another question regarding the FLIR One Pro: Can it be charged simultaneously during operation? So, if you want to extend the 1h battery life, would it be possible to keep it fed via power bank / charger? I guess it's internal battery is non removable, so if battery is discharged or ageing, no easy way to replace it with a charged / new one, am I right? Thanks!
In theory yes, you could have the ONE Pro plugged into a power bank during operation to extend the runtime. The charging port is a USB-C port that is separate from the phone connector.
Thanks for this review!
It seems to me that the Flir is all around by far a better made and more polished product, that's part of a whole lineup of professional devices. Made for the pocket and weekend warrior, but just breaking into the software etc of the high end gear. This encourages the next purchase to be a higher end model as it will serve you well. The seek... seems like it had a great intention in its design but just lacks in so many areas.
That's a pretty accurate read on these two devices. ONE Pro is backed by a well-established IR camera company with decades in the industry - overall, the interface is more polished, construction is a bit better, and features are more fleshed-out. Seek is a newer player in the industry so they are still working out some of the kinks. That said, they bring some good points to the table like higher resolution but overall we do recommend FLIR to most users. The latest Seek ShotPro is their best camera to date - many issues have been fixed and new features have been added. If you're curious, you can check out our comparison vs the FLIR C5 here: th-cam.com/video/s-fEjPCFU1A/w-d-xo.html
Your eyes going back and forth bothers me lol good review tho!
can i extract array data from its usb? thanks
hola a todos una pregunta que tipo de archivo genera la cámara seek, es radiométrico? se puede utilizar un sofware de edición para aplicar efectos y paletas de colores ? desde ya muchas gracias
Seek Pro has remarkably faster output refresh rate than the Flir. I can't honestly see why/how the Flir is so expensive - apart from them having the whole marketplace in Thermal Imaging - *once*
The FLIR ONE Pro is actually now on sale for only $399 on TEquipment.net - that's more that $150 less than the Seek Compact Pro.
FLIR ONE Pro: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/OnePro-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Seek Compact Pro: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Does the FLIR One one work well with iPhone cases?
The latest model actually has an adjustable Lightning adapter built-in which you can extend/retract to fit perfectly with almost any iPhone case. FLIR calls it the OneFit adjustable connector. Check it out here: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/OnePro-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Thank you, Your review helps me a lot. :) I have a first gen FLIR and was looking for a better unit to take outdoors. The Seek looks perfect for what I need.
A real thermal scope or mono not these toys
Why on earth didn't you use SCREEN CAPTURE to showcase the cameras quality? From where your at its probably easy to see the differences but from our side of the screen can't see a damn thing...
No analysis/reporting software pretty much eliminates the Seek for professional use.
This is certainly a big drawback for many users when comparing FLIR vs Seek - Seek is currently working on their own analysis software but no release date has been announced yet.
Isn’t really “professional grade” to begin with either of them
hello Davin .. which one is best for mobile and laptop pcb repairing?
i decided to buy seek pro
I checked several audio amplifer with my flir one 2, and msx is very important with correct parallax too, otherwise you can't identify the point of interest. A themal camera without msx is useless.
@ the flir one II is similar to Flir one pro: no manual focus. But i find difficult to identify the point, the focus is not an issue for me but the shape of the object make the difference because can help to identify it. If the focus distance is really very close, less than 30 cm, i agree with you.
Hello,
I have the Flir C2 and HTI HT-09. C2 is good, but a little slow. HTI good, but no firmwares updates.
I want another to help me to repair electronic circuits.
Can you give me any advice, please? Do you think that HTI make goods devices?
A lot of thanks.
We do not carry HTI and are not familiar with this brand. We recommend Seek Thermal or FLIR due to proven performance and strong product support. The Seek Shot and ShotPRO might work for your application. Also keep an eye out for the new FLIR C5 which was just announced today.
www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/Shot/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/ShotPRO/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
If I have a xtra phone laying around that does not have service( it IS NOT CONNECTED TO A PHONE PROVIDER) would the flir one or the seek pro still work? Could I use either one with a phone that is not hooked up with phone service...... thanks for any help
We can't confirm this with total certainty but it's likely that this would work based on the fact that the cameras are compatible with specific iPod Touch models (not cellular devices). That said, you would still need a connection to WiFi in order to download each camera's respective apps (phone-based IR cameras won't work without their apps). If you want to be 100% sure it would work, we recommend you contact Seek Support: support.thermal.com/hc/en-us
Thank you for the video. Seek Compact Pro is better, but it is not the same price.
The FLIR ONE Pro is currently discounted and is cheaper than the Compact Pro - check them out on our website.
FLIR ONE Pro: www.tequipment.net/FLIR/OnePro-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
Seek Compact Pro: www.tequipment.net/Seek-Thermal/CompactPRO-iOS/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers/
So the reason why the Torrey Pines T20 got from 30Hz to 9Hz on the newer T20X model is likely a law issue?
It's possible that going with a lower frame rate makes the camera more accessible to more markets because there's less hassle with exporting.
Hello, I'm looking for a camera that has a long shutter speed to look at mountainsides for temperature differences. Do you know which one would be best? I suppose it does not need to be a really good one, because it does not have a short shutter speed like the pros use. But likely it needs an adjustable shutter speed and every pixel needs uniform sensitivity. It also probably needs a long focal length or range. Would you be able to point me in the right direction, I'm looking for something less than $300?
In reality, shutter speed is not a main consideration for most thermal imaging applications. Specifically for your application, since you're shooting a landscape, you likely don't need super fast exposure times. The camera's field of view and resolution/sensitivity are much more important considerations. You also need a camera with long range depending on the distance you are from the mountainside. To give you the best advice possible we need more information on your application. We suggest that you contact one of our product experts - we have certified thermographers on-staff who can help you find exactly what you need. You can call us at (877) 571-7901, email Sales@TEquipment.net, or live chat on www.tequipment.net/ at the bottom right of every site page.
May I know the price of the product
You can see the prices on our website at the links below.
FLIR ONE Pro: bit.ly/32CcKU9
Seek Compact Pro: bit.ly/3n9OZfW
Can you shoot a exterior house wall to see if it has insulation in it?
Shooting from the exterior should reveal where exterior foam board insulation is missing, but it won't reveal gaps in fiberglass insulation installed behind interior drywall. This is because the walls from the exterior are too thick for the IR camera to see interior insulation. To check out your interior insulation, shoot from inside the building - the thermal camera will easily be able to detect the temperature differences behind the drywall which will show you where insulation is missing.
IMAGES ARE MIRRORED ON COMPARISON, ONE IS UPSIDE DOWN> great video however I have a complaint, the obvious one. You have compaired images, thats awesome. But one of the images is upside down from the other, so the comparison looks fishy if one does not notice that. SO
We used the same iPhone to shoot each video of the exact same breaker panel, and we shot each video in landscape orientation. ONE Pro has an auto-orientation feature that adjusts the FLIR/temperature overlays to match your orientation - Seek does not have this feature. So, in those video clips, you see the Seek video taken in landscape orientation but the overlays remain in portrait orientation - that's why it appears upside down.