In my case I signed a 2 years contract with a Telco , the services provider supplied TP Link Deco AX5400 wifi 6 X60 (3-pack) mesh system and 1 Modem The technician done everything , testing and handed over to me. I am not a gamer, MESH system able to cover 2000sq/ft of area, good signal, Stable and reliable for 15 months ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video, thank you. Just a quick question: Can I connect the main node (at the router) to the second node via wifi and then have wired ethernet from node 2 to node 3? Thank you in advance.
Yes you can mix and match wired and wireless backhaul. As long as the main router is connected to your modem via Ethernet, then that router can allow both wired or wireless connections to itself.
Great explanation as always. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos. Mesh networking is still pretty new to a majority of us. I've done IT on and off for 20 years and only have really seen them in practice on the corporate level until recently. After having my TP-Link Deco AXE5400 mesh network for about 6 weeks now, it's hard to imagine my internet without one. It just works. Wired backhaul was no question the way to go for me, but as long as you keep these at least 30-40 feet within of each node, the speed loss seems negligable. I have 2 nodes about 30 feet apart and it seems like they like to stick to the main one, but I'll space them just a bit farther apart eventually, just to get the maximum benefit of the mesh network. To sum up, I'm super surprised the range of these little devices. Even as a stand alone device they seem quite functional. Anyways, Cheers 👍
Best explanation ever! Thank you so so much! I only got one single question remaining, instead of a port switch, I can use my previous router just for the lan ports, right?
Thanks, only if you can disable your router settings, disable WiFi, disable NAT. I’ve seen people do this but I personally prefer to just get a switch since they’re fairly inexpensive.
i don't understand why they would only put one 2.5 Gb port on a mesh system. So only the one access point will have more than 1Gb speed. Makes no sense.
This is by far the simplest explanation of MoCA + mesh network configurations I've seen, so thank you. If I have fiber installed and I have coax throughout my house, can I essentially substitute "cable modem" for "ONT" here? For example, can I just take the coax that's (presumably, hasn't been installed yet) going into my ONT, run it through a splitter that then connects back to my ONT and one of my XE75 routers, and then I'll be able to connect MoCA adapters to any coax port in the house?
I would connect your ONT to your deco first, then from that deco, I would run the MoCA through the coax walls. I haven’t tried it the other way, it may actually work directly cause it is converting Ethernet to coax and back but I would go from ONT to deco and from that you can run the MoCA
@@landpet sorry I'm a little confused. So basically skip the coax to my ONT (if my house is wired with coax wont Verizon need to run their own moca adapter to use my coax line with their ONT? Or, typing that out, that seems obviously wrong because they're running fiber cable to their ONT and skipping my coax connection) and connect my ONT to my Deco via Ethernet. Then, find the network box where my coax goes to, disconnect it from the wall, and MoCA it into my Deco router?
Many thanks for the insides. I live in a apartment where we have in every room Ethernet. The Ethernet cables are coming together where the main router of our provider is placed and they are attached to it. Question, can I attach both tplink to the Ethernet and does it works as a Backhaul, also if the Ethernet connection is routed through the router of our provider?
No problem. If you did that, you would need to run this tp link in access point mode. Unless you can bypass your isp router and plug this directly to your modem, that’s what I would recommend assuming your router and modem are separate
I have 3 set of TP-Link Deco X50-PoE. Can I connect 2 TP-Link Deco X50-PoE in TP-Link PoE 5 Port switch and one cable from switch to Main Deco and Main Deco to my ISP's Router? Those 2 deco are closed to each other so it can connect via wirelessly but i want to use ethernet backhaul that's why.
Yes you can do that. I'm going to release the X50-PoE video this weekend (well the review video) not the setup. I'll do a setup video for that one in the future.
HELLO! Wonderful presentation. You are the best!!! I have a question: Can I divide the signal from a DECO with a switch to two other DECOs, like a connection via Y cables, dividing the signal to the DECOs that are in the DECO branches? ! Look at the picture bellow. S is the switch. Thank you very much!!! dec01--S/ deco2 \deco3
Thanks, you can go from modem to deco 1 to switch. From the switch you can run one Ethernet to Deco 2 and another Ethernet from the switch to Deco 3. Or you can run an Ethernet from deco 2 to deco 3 directly. It doesn’t matter, it will work either way. The important part is modem to deco 1 directly via Ethernet, after that you have a ton of options.
Thank you! Would this work? ISP Modem > Deco X55 > Switch > Decos X55 (backhauled directly to the modem) In order to create a strong backhauled mesh network?
Nice video. I wanna know more details about connecting multiple different decos for a wired backhaul network. Is there any restrictions in the number of deco units you can connect? May you combine different deco models 8x55 with a couple of be10000 for example)?
Can i connect all the 3 deco devices to the Router individually and still get a mesh system? Just to elaborate i mean that all the Deco will be connected to the back of the router and not to each other directly or indirectly. Will that be a mesh system?
@@trustinmarkLife saver man! Needed to know if this was possible as the way my home is wired to a central location with a 24port switch already I will have to have my configured this way as well and do not want to sacrifice any speed if unnecessary to do so
THANKS! do you have to connect to the modem? can you connect the one primary to your router with ethernet? can you connect the one primary to your router via wireless?
Thanks a lot for this video! I got a question: you said you can wire the router to a second node to get wired backhaul and the best speeds. Does the third node needs to be connected to the router for the best connection or can it be connected to the second node and have the same wired backhaul?
Thank you so much for this one, it clears a lot up! Is it possible to use the Switch to connect from the master to the 2nd or 3rd mesh points? Would that affect internet speeds? (Ex: Master -> Switch -> 2nd point -> 3rd point)
I recently bought a Deco AXE4900 and I have internet through Ziply Fiber that doesn't use a modem/router so I have an Ethernet cable running straight to the main Deco unit. Is there a way to take the ethernet out of the main Deco and convert it to a coax to run through the house using the existing coax cable? Then on the other end convert that coax back to an ethernet out? Thanks, I already ordered a gigabit ethernet switch which I also needed!
Question you mentioned bridge. How would I do that ? I jotoce my deco setup has a different network than my router/modem. How would I just spread out tirelessly the modem/router ip address and prevent it from constantly changing???? Any help is appreciated. Good video BTW
There is an option in the deco app, typically under the advanced section for operating mode. Change it to access point in this setting and it should work.
Thanks for the explanations. What i need help with is adding the mesh system to an existing network (a modem plus router plus three existing apple routers), using access point mode on the tplink, and a different SSID, but on the same Ethernet network. In theory this should work. But I’m not getting it right😅
Sure, you would connect the tp link to that network and the other tp link nodes to the first tp link or through each other. Then go to the deco app and run it in access point mode and name the WiFi something else on the Deco. I personally don’t recommend this because the WiFi signals may interfere with each other but you can try that.
Thx! excellent video. so the wired backhaul setup can be either: a) a straight ethernet cable connecting the two Decos b)First Deco connects to ADSL modem with ethernet A and to an unmanaged switch with ethernet B, while the second Deco only connects to the unmanaged switch I have an ADSL modem/router with 4 ethernet ports i.e modem and unmanaged switch combined. wouldn't it work to plug both DECOs on this ADSL modem/route? If I rephrase the question, would it be possible to have a setup of Modem - Deco 1 - Deco 2 all connecting only to an unmanaged switch?
Thanks! I'm not sure I understand the question. Wired backhaul is accomplished when you connect the main router to the secondary router (which is acting like an access point). However you do need your main router connected via ethernet to your ISP modem, ONT or DSL.
@@landpetI was thinking about not disabling my wifi router. I was gling to have a mesh system connect to the Modem. Also, have the Wifi Router connect to the Modem. Is there a disadvantage in this?
Thanks for the great video! I have two questions: 1. I am trying to hardwire my tv set top box. I don’t have Ethernet there but I do have coax. So I bought a moca solution. Do I need to connect both the provider’s gateway AND my deco ? 2. Do you know how to set static ip’s to devices on the deco?
1. You connect one MoCA to your deco and the other MoCA to anything you want such as you TV set to box directly or to another Deco or to a computer, up to you 2. There should be an option for that, most likely under advanced section in the app
This was great info thanks. Is it possible to use the att provided router as main and use 1 deco as an access point by hard wiring from back of att router to the back of the deco unit?
So the way it works in Europe is that we have the modem connected in the house and from that we have ethernet plugs in the walls. Basically those act like extensions to the modem and that is where we connect our Routers. Can we basically connect these mesh devices to the ethernet port in the walls and basically connecting them dorectly to the modem? So have the main mesh connect to the modem through an ethernet port in the walls and at the second floor again connect it to another ethernet port in the walls and have them both sending Wifi Signals at full speed. Would that work
Can you connect modem to 1st deco (router) and then from 1st deco to switch and then from switch to both of the other deco units creating a backhaul for all? Thanks!
Great video but a question. I have an ATT gateway modem/wifi...which I can out in bridge mode or disable wifi. My question is can I view use the modem with 4+ ports to plug each mesh point directly into the ISP? Or, must you utilize backhaul/daisy chain them together?
Can you also connect the 3 units to the modem-router or do you have to connect only one unit to the modem-router and connect the 2 other units to that unit?
You need a mesh that supports that with a usb plug or if your external drive is a NAS that has an Ethernet port, then you can plugin the Ethernet port directly to the mesh via Ethernet.
Hey, good video thanks for making it. Only one issue I did not see you cover which is important to some people. Can the Deco Mesh be used on a router that has no internet and only uses intranet wired and wifi? Friend has media server in his cottage and people can watch movies or play some games using wifi to connect to the local media server.
Thanks, I haven’t specifically tried that but when the internet goes down once in a blue moon, I still can access devices on my network so I theory the answer is yes.
Would you happen to know if these routers (or mesh setups in general) need to be wired in series the way showed in wired backhaul portion or is the configuration of modem->main router->24 port switch->other 2 APs? Essentially the main router would have both APs wired directly to it rather than the 3rd AP being directly wired to the 2nd AP.
Hi, and thank you for this video! I have one question, can I make the following: From the main router, as it has 4 outputs : using 3 outputs, each one connected directly to a satellite, so making 3 satellites in the house, each being directly connected to a differnet output of the router. ? I mean they are not connected to directly to each others but getting the signal from the routet directly.
by main router, are you referring to a non Deco router? If that's the case, you would need to run the Deco in access point mode which is not something I recommend.
Great video. I do have one question. I have a fiber optic modem using a similar TP-Link mesh system, Deco AX3000 X55. I am assuming that I need 2 MoCA units for this setup...Correct?
can i connect my 6 deco m5 units to a switch and the switch to modem? or do i have to connect the main deco unit to modem directly then the other 5 to a switch which i'll connect to the modem "i'll set them all up as AP mode even the main"
You did a great job answering most of the questions except one. Can I connect the main mesh router with an unmanaged switch and connect the other mesh units with the same switch and acting like one mesh system? A bonus question, can I connect an unmanaged switch with the modem and then connect two separate mesh systems to the switch?
Thanks! Yes you can go from main router to unmanaged switch and from the unmanaged switch to all the other nodes. You cannot go from modem to unmanaged switch to router. Router must be connected directly to modem.
Hello friend, I wanted to bother you with a question please. To install the TP-Link Deco XE75. Should you configure your company's router or modem to Bridge Mode? Thanks for your answer.
If you have a modem router combo, then that router portion should be configured to bridge mode. If you just have a modem, nothing needs to be done aside from setting up the Deco
I have a question. Someone might have already asked, but I'm going to ask anyway because I'm confused. On a 6e mesh router wouldn't you lose one of the bands if you do a wired back haul? Then what would be the point of having a 6e router?
Super curious when you do a wired backhaul do the ethernet wires have to come from the main router itself or can you Dasie chain them or which one would be better?
Great Explanation I Want to share my experience With Tp Link Mesh: I have a mixed Back haul mesh system, my house has two floors, I got internet optical fiber directly from the second floor (940Mb symetrical), then From my Router I Connect the first Tp lnk Deco, there is running cable to the next room to the sencond TP Link deco in my office and this to a Swtich for conect others devices... In the first floor I have a Deco wireless conected to the others two. The first floor is entirely concrete and for years the wifi conectivity was a problem in my house, since i bought the tp-link deco in 2020 (M4 - 3 pack) the problem was resolved, it exceeded my expectations, now I'm thinking in upgrade to TP-Link Tri-Band WiFi 7 BE22000 not for need but thinking in future speeds upgrades, I don't do it yet because I need to confirm if this one can handle 220V AC, I'm from Chile Regards!
Thanks for this. Is there any reasons that connecting one of the Decos to a 2nd unmanaged gigabit switch wouldn’t work? (ISP/ONT->Deco1->switch1->switch2-Deco2). I’m troubleshooting and can’t get it to connect via Ethernet for wired backhaul. TIA.
Hello, I want to use a Deco X55 Pro in my already set up Ethernet Lan with computers, surveillance nvr, and a couple of printers attached to it. I receive the internet from a modem/router which was connected to the main Deco and then the Deco with a Cat 7 cable to an unmanned switch...this switch links computers and printers... Something went definetely wrong, since most of the internet speed was lost when reaching the cabled computers and the computers could not find the printers. Obviously I did something wrong or am missing some configuration needed in the Deco app options... I would appreciate a lot any insight you might have on my problem... Thanks for your videos.
what do you mean bridge mode? how do you do that? is that what joins both network names? because i see my original and now the new deco network names when i look up wifis
If you have a modem router combo, you need to disable the router portion of that by either disabling it or by putting it in bridge mode. Bridge mode essentially disable your router functionality You can typically access the modem router combo settings by going to a specific up address or link that should be a sticker on your modem/router combo. You can also call your ISP and request a modem only with no router functionality and run the deco to that. Or you can run your deco in access point mode which will just show your original WiFi name.
Can I use my up to 10g speed xfinity modem/router with one of these devices connected to each other with an Ethernet cable, 2nd cube router in my other room, and last but not least, the last one on the other end of my home? 2nd and 3rd routers would be wireless (4000sq feet place single floor).
How do you connect the backhaul satellites to the "main" router. And what if you have > 3 of these, such as 5 or six, they cannot connect to the main unit wired.
You can daisy chain them as well. The important part is connecting the modem to the router directly via ethernet. After that, you have a lot of choices on how to connect things. You can even get a switch after the first deco router and that can connect to all other decos. There is a limit to how many you can have, I don't know the exact amount, but it will be around 5 or so.
@@landpet Thank you, i know a lot about home networking myself, and I can tell those youtubers who know what they are talking about and you are one of the few.
What you are not covering is access point mode. Just router mode. People may think they always need to have 2 lan ports to connect deco in weird mode. It's not true.
Not sure I understand, I do cover wireless backhaul mode for the secondary device acting as an access point if that’s what you’re referring to. If you’re referring to the access point operation, then you need a separate router for that but that’s not something I recommend.
I have the X55. Can i connect 2 Decos directly to the modem/router by ethernet, instead of tying them from router->Deco->Deco? For example, if my router is in the middle of the house can i connect one deco by ethernet to the left side of the house, and then another deco on the right side of the house, both coming into the center router/modem, and then a 3rd wirelessly downstairs?
You could of you run the mesh in access point mode. But I would recommend disabling the WiFi on that router. Generally speaking it’s best if you don’t do that
Let's say I just want wifi access in my room I have an unmanaged switch in the room next to me can I just hook up one of these to the switch and that will give me access to my existing wifi ? I'm still confused on how this all works I'm not trying to replace my current router just a Verizon FiOS one. Just need my internet extended
Hi, all your videos are very informative and helpful Can you help with a question please I have the three pack with the modem connected to the first one then a ethernet cable from the first one to a unmanaged switch. From the unmanaged switch a ethernet cable goes across the house to another unmanaged switch where a ethernet cable goes from that switch into number two node. Third node a room away is connected wireless and the system is setup for the 6 band to be dedicated backhaul. I have a option to go from number two switch with another cable and wire number three node. Will this help and then is the setting for 6 band as dedicated backhaul pointless and is it better at that point to assign 6 band to wireless devices A couple devices do use 6e but the majority are 5 Thanks
Hi appreciate any help. Im using linksys. I have 2 meshes and it was set up as individual wifi with 2 separate SSIDs. I think I tried to changed it to wired backhaul setup before but it some how didnt work. Is there anything I need to do like reset something on the mesh routers?
I have a combined modem/router from the ISP, i have TP Link Deco X50 mesh connected to it via ethernet and in bridge mode. But i get problems with the DHCP, i have to restart the modem and then it`s only the active connected units that get automatically assigned IP adresses etc. If i try to connect after that the DHCP won`t work, no IP-adresses are assigned. I know if i put an router between the modem and the Deco the DHCP will work. It`s just annoying that i can`t have a clean setup with just the Decos.
What I recommend is putting your router from your modem/router combo in bridge mode and running the deco in router mode. Also make sure, only one deco is connected to your modem directly. Make sure the other decos connect either to the main deco or through each other to the main deco.
my isp has a modem/router combo, what i did is ive only disable the wifi of the isp of that device and i connected my deco as a router, it works just fine and achieved the advertised speed, should i still convert my isp modem to bridge mode?
If I only need to connect the Ethernet cable to my pc and I’m not trying to increase the wifi capacity, can I just use the moca adapters for a back haul connection without the mesh Wi-Fi system? (I don’t have the possibility to run Ethernet cables from room to room)
What is the effect of setting the same wifi name and password as the isp modem/router, as you mentioned in this video? Does it have the tplink setup on the same network SSID as the isp modem/router, and provide a wifi "mesh" on the same network also, ie handoff of device seamlessly to various pucks as you walk around the house. What happens if someone's phone connects to the isp modem/router... could they still access files on a pc that is hardwired to one of the tplink access points? This would be great. I need a mesh that can play nice with my ISP modem/router, because I'd like to run the 10G wired to an unmanaged switch to plug in a bunch of devices such as pc, nas etc off of that switch; and then let everyone who has phones run around the house connecting to various mesh points, but also be able to access files on the network nas, pc etc. I know my existing Google wifi doesn't do it. Wondering if TPlink or others would?
When I say to use the same name, I'm saying that so your devices can connect to the new router without having to go and reprogram each device. This assumes you don't have a modem/router combo or have disabled the router portion of the modem/router combo. If you want to keep your router active from your modem/router combo then you could get this deco and run it in access point mode. There is no SSID you name, it just uses whatever the main router is and extends that signal. I'm personally not a fan of this but it could work.
Hello, I just got the deco ax3000. I had issue with dead zones. I bought a new arris modem and the decos. I set up the decos and now my WiFi is worse. Can someone explain why? My isp plan is 800mbps, but I used to average 600ish. Why is my WiFi worse I also only set up just 2 of my three decos
Your phone is only used to setup the router itself, once the router is setup it works with your computer, phone and all other compatible devices in your home.
@@landpetThat blows, my current modem and router are hooked directly to my pc and then I configure my phone to use the wifi signal. What's the deal with it having to be my phone to set it up? Any routers out there that does it the pc method and not by a phone? I really hate using my phone for everything.
Is it possible to maintain my current router (an tp link ac5400x) and still use a Deco mesh? Planning to have the modem/router (pldt) conenxted to my ac5400 wan, then have the lan port 4 wired to the main node of the deco Will this setup work? And will this affect the speed? I am relying on my ac5400 as all my devices are connected to it. Just need the deco to act as access point for wireless devices (for better speeds)
Hello!!! When I started to configure my mesh, I installed only 3 DECO M4’s. Is there a problem if I install now 3 M5 on the same mesh? Will they “talk” to each other? Thank you!!!
I don't know what the limit is, maybe 5 or 6 or more but up to 5 it should be OK as long as you add it to the network rather than setup as a new one. But if you're going wireless backhaul, speeds will dwindle.
Thinking of getting the TP Deco XE75 to connect to Xfinity XB7 gateway. Can I use the TP Deco as access points only and still use the Gateway router? Will the ap Mode give me the good coverage ? I've heard there are issues putting the gateway into bridge mode and losing all the existing device connections
Is it better to run the XE75 in router wifi mode and place the gateway in bridge mode? At what point in the xe75 setup do you put the gateway in bridge mode?@@landpet
I had question about moca. I have two unmanaged switches. One (net gear switch ) by the ont from isp and one (qnap 10switch) in other location where other moca device is at. Everything runs fine. I bought another qnap unmanaged switch to change the netgear one. Ever time I hook up moca Ethernet cable it has loopback error.
If your going from ONT to router to unmanaged switch to MoCA then to MoCA to other unmanned switch, it should work just fine. One thing with noting is that MoCA does limit to 16 devices. I haven't tested this but that may be your issue as well.
@@landpet thanks.. thats how i have it wired.. when i have netgear switch on ont side and qnap switch on the other end it works fine. when i use both qnap switches it does a loopback error on the ethernet that is hooked up to the moca adapters... i cant figure out whats going on.
@@chabuki69 hmm, assuming yours is wired correctly and the qnap is not a managed switch where you actually need to set some settings, I don't know why off the top of my head why you would be getting that.
Idk what to do, i have a version of these deco’s but when i plug a LAN cable in it from that to the pc the pc LAN port has a grenn light but also a red/ orange?? And the Ethernet then work but ss soon im in a game (cus im a gamer), i can randomly get kicked out and stuff? But just happens on the gaming, not if i for example just sit on TH-cam or Netflix and stuff??
I was trying to delete some one else’s comment in here and deleted my own by mistake. only because I addressed the topic in a better tone understand way.
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Thank you for this. Best explanation I’ve ever seen on mocha and mesh set up.
Thanks!
In my case
I signed a 2 years contract with a Telco , the services provider supplied TP Link Deco AX5400 wifi 6 X60 (3-pack) mesh system and 1 Modem
The technician done everything , testing and handed over to me.
I am not a gamer, MESH system able to cover 2000sq/ft of area, good signal, Stable and reliable for 15 months ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
nice!
Great video, thank you. Just a quick question: Can I connect the main node (at the router) to the second node via wifi and then have wired ethernet from node 2 to node 3? Thank you in advance.
Yes you can mix and match wired and wireless backhaul. As long as the main router is connected to your modem via Ethernet, then that router can allow both wired or wireless connections to itself.
Great explanation as always. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos. Mesh networking is still pretty new to a majority of us. I've done IT on and off for 20 years and only have really seen them in practice on the corporate level until recently.
After having my TP-Link Deco AXE5400 mesh network for about 6 weeks now, it's hard to imagine my internet without one. It just works. Wired backhaul was no question the way to go for me, but as long as you keep these at least 30-40 feet within of each node, the speed loss seems negligable. I have 2 nodes about 30 feet apart and it seems like they like to stick to the main one, but I'll space them just a bit farther apart eventually, just to get the maximum benefit of the mesh network.
To sum up, I'm super surprised the range of these little devices. Even as a stand alone device they seem quite functional. Anyways, Cheers 👍
Thanks!
Yup mesh networks are awesome. glad to hear it's working well for you.
Best explanation ever!
Thank you so so much!
I only got one single question remaining, instead of a port switch, I can use my previous router just for the lan ports, right?
Thanks, only if you can disable your router settings, disable WiFi, disable NAT. I’ve seen people do this but I personally prefer to just get a switch since they’re fairly inexpensive.
i don't understand why they would only put one 2.5 Gb port on a mesh system. So only the one access point will have more than 1Gb speed. Makes no sense.
This is by far the simplest explanation of MoCA + mesh network configurations I've seen, so thank you. If I have fiber installed and I have coax throughout my house, can I essentially substitute "cable modem" for "ONT" here? For example, can I just take the coax that's (presumably, hasn't been installed yet) going into my ONT, run it through a splitter that then connects back to my ONT and one of my XE75 routers, and then I'll be able to connect MoCA adapters to any coax port in the house?
I would connect your ONT to your deco first, then from that deco, I would run the MoCA through the coax walls.
I haven’t tried it the other way, it may actually work directly cause it is converting Ethernet to coax and back but I would go from ONT to deco and from that you can run the MoCA
@@landpet sorry I'm a little confused. So basically skip the coax to my ONT (if my house is wired with coax wont Verizon need to run their own moca adapter to use my coax line with their ONT? Or, typing that out, that seems obviously wrong because they're running fiber cable to their ONT and skipping my coax connection) and connect my ONT to my Deco via Ethernet. Then, find the network box where my coax goes to, disconnect it from the wall, and MoCA it into my Deco router?
Many thanks for the insides. I live in a apartment where we have in every room Ethernet. The Ethernet cables are coming together where the main router of our provider is placed and they are attached to it. Question, can I attach both tplink to the Ethernet and does it works as a Backhaul, also if the Ethernet connection is routed through the router of our provider?
No problem. If you did that, you would need to run this tp link in access point mode. Unless you can bypass your isp router and plug this directly to your modem, that’s what I would recommend assuming your router and modem are separate
I have 3 set of TP-Link Deco X50-PoE.
Can I connect 2 TP-Link Deco X50-PoE in TP-Link PoE 5 Port switch and one cable from switch to Main Deco and Main Deco to my ISP's Router?
Those 2 deco are closed to each other so it can connect via wirelessly but i want to use ethernet backhaul that's why.
Yes you can do that.
I'm going to release the X50-PoE video this weekend (well the review video) not the setup. I'll do a setup video for that one in the future.
HELLO! Wonderful presentation. You are the best!!! I have a question: Can I divide the signal from a DECO with a switch to two other DECOs, like a connection via Y cables, dividing the signal to the DECOs that are in the DECO branches? ! Look at the picture bellow. S is the switch. Thank you very much!!!
dec01--S/ deco2
\deco3
Thanks, you can go from modem to deco 1 to switch. From the switch you can run one Ethernet to Deco 2 and another Ethernet from the switch to Deco 3. Or you can run an Ethernet from deco 2 to deco 3 directly. It doesn’t matter, it will work either way. The important part is modem to deco 1 directly via Ethernet, after that you have a ton of options.
@@landpetthank you!!! ❤
Thank you!
Would this work?
ISP Modem > Deco X55 > Switch > Decos X55 (backhauled directly to the modem)
In order to create a strong backhauled mesh network?
Yes this would work great:
ISP Modem > Deco X55 > Switch > Decos X55
You covered alot. But can you run extra decos from a unmanaged 16 port switch.
Yes as long as the main deco is connected to the modem.
Modem > deco > 16 port switch > other decos
Is fine
Nice video. I wanna know more details about connecting multiple different decos for a wired backhaul network. Is there any restrictions in the number of deco units you can connect? May you combine different deco models 8x55 with a couple of be10000 for example)?
Can i connect all the 3 deco devices to the Router individually and still get a mesh system?
Just to elaborate i mean that all the Deco will be connected to the back of the router and not to each other directly or indirectly.
Will that be a mesh system?
I have it set that way and deco shows as backhauled
Actually I have internet ethernet coming directly into first Deco, then out of that deco I go to a switch and the other 2 decos run to that
@@trustinmarkLife saver man! Needed to know if this was possible as the way my home is wired to a central location with a 24port switch already I will have to have my configured this way as well and do not want to sacrifice any speed if unnecessary to do so
THANKS!
do you have to connect to the modem?
can you connect the one primary to your router with ethernet?
can you connect the one primary to your router via wireless?
Modem > Deco (via Ethernet) > the other deco can be wired via ethernet or wireless to main deco.
The Deco is a router
@ ahhh. Dang i still want to use my router
Do you have any video where the main device is configured as an access point instead of a router? Thanks
Thanks a lot for this video! I got a question: you said you can wire the router to a second node to get wired backhaul and the best speeds. Does the third node needs to be connected to the router for the best connection or can it be connected to the second node and have the same wired backhaul?
It’s the same whether it’s connected to the first router or second node assuming the second node is also wired.
Thank you so much for this one, it clears a lot up! Is it possible to use the Switch to connect from the master to the 2nd or 3rd mesh points? Would that affect internet speeds? (Ex: Master -> Switch -> 2nd point -> 3rd point)
You could do that, it won't effect speed
@@landpet Perfect, thanks!
I recently bought a Deco AXE4900 and I have internet through Ziply Fiber that doesn't use a modem/router so I have an Ethernet cable running straight to the main Deco unit. Is there a way to take the ethernet out of the main Deco and convert it to a coax to run through the house using the existing coax cable? Then on the other end convert that coax back to an ethernet out? Thanks, I already ordered a gigabit ethernet switch which I also needed!
Question you mentioned bridge. How would I do that ? I jotoce my deco setup has a different network than my router/modem. How would I just spread out tirelessly the modem/router ip address and prevent it from constantly changing???? Any help is appreciated. Good video BTW
There is an option in the deco app, typically under the advanced section for operating mode. Change it to access point in this setting and it should work.
Thanks for the explanations.
What i need help with is adding the mesh system to an existing network (a modem plus router plus three existing apple routers), using access point mode on the tplink, and a different SSID, but on the same Ethernet network. In theory this should work. But I’m not getting it right😅
Sure, you would connect the tp link to that network and the other tp link nodes to the first tp link or through each other. Then go to the deco app and run it in access point mode and name the WiFi something else on the Deco. I personally don’t recommend this because the WiFi signals may interfere with each other but you can try that.
Thanks for the intel. System works great . Have me debating doing wired setup through coax even though it's humming rn
Up to you, if it’s working great already then prob no need at this point
Thx! excellent video. so the wired backhaul setup can be either:
a) a straight ethernet cable connecting the two Decos
b)First Deco connects to ADSL modem with ethernet A and to an unmanaged switch with ethernet B, while the second Deco only connects to the unmanaged switch
I have an ADSL modem/router with 4 ethernet ports i.e modem and unmanaged switch combined. wouldn't it work to plug both DECOs on this ADSL modem/route?
If I rephrase the question, would it be possible to have a setup of Modem - Deco 1 - Deco 2 all connecting only to an unmanaged switch?
Typically no
Excellent video. Can the wired backhaul be accomplished by just connecting the components together as nodes on the same LAN?
Thanks!
I'm not sure I understand the question. Wired backhaul is accomplished when you connect the main router to the secondary router (which is acting like an access point). However you do need your main router connected via ethernet to your ISP modem, ONT or DSL.
@@landpetI was thinking about not disabling my wifi router. I was gling to have a mesh system connect to the Modem. Also, have the Wifi Router connect to the Modem.
Is there a disadvantage in this?
Thanks for the great video!
I have two questions:
1. I am trying to hardwire my tv set top box. I don’t have Ethernet there but I do have coax. So I bought a moca solution.
Do I need to connect both the provider’s gateway AND my deco ?
2. Do you know how to set static ip’s to devices on the deco?
1. You connect one MoCA to your deco and the other MoCA to anything you want such as you TV set to box directly or to another Deco or to a computer, up to you
2. There should be an option for that, most likely under advanced section in the app
This was great info thanks. Is it possible to use the att provided router as main and use 1 deco as an access point by hard wiring from back of att router to the back of the deco unit?
So the way it works in Europe is that we have the modem connected in the house and from that we have ethernet plugs in the walls. Basically those act like extensions to the modem and that is where we connect our Routers. Can we basically connect these mesh devices to the ethernet port in the walls and basically connecting them dorectly to the modem?
So have the main mesh connect to the modem through an ethernet port in the walls and at the second floor again connect it to another ethernet port in the walls and have them both sending Wifi Signals at full speed. Would that work
Can you have one deco connected to your router, and also connect a switch to your router, which this switch connects to all of your other decos?
How do the three units get connected with each other? Is it a wired connection or wireless connection?
either way
Can you connect modem to 1st deco (router) and then from 1st deco to switch and then from switch to both of the other deco units creating a backhaul for all? Thanks!
Yes that is how mine is setup and it works well
Great video but a question. I have an ATT gateway modem/wifi...which I can out in bridge mode or disable wifi. My question is can I view use the modem with 4+ ports to plug each mesh point directly into the ISP? Or, must you utilize backhaul/daisy chain them together?
Guess I may just need to use an unmanaged port to backhaul nodes 2, 3, etc to node 1
Its best to go to the first mesh then from there go to the others like you said a switch is fine as well.
Can you also connect the 3 units to the modem-router or do you have to connect only one unit to the modem-router and connect the 2 other units to that unit?
Thank you for the information. How can I connect my external USB drive to the mesh system?
You need a mesh that supports that with a usb plug or if your external drive is a NAS that has an Ethernet port, then you can plugin the Ethernet port directly to the mesh via Ethernet.
@@landpet Thank you for the reply, makes sense. I managed to find an old Asus router with USB, I just used that as a repeater and shared the USB.
Hey, good video thanks for making it.
Only one issue I did not see you cover which is important to some people.
Can the Deco Mesh be used on a router that has no internet and only uses intranet wired and wifi?
Friend has media server in his cottage and people can watch movies or play some games using wifi to connect to the local media server.
Thanks, I haven’t specifically tried that but when the internet goes down once in a blue moon, I still can access devices on my network so I theory the answer is yes.
@@landpet Hello, Thanks for the reply and info. Have a great weekend and summer. Thanks again.😄
can you connect a wired cable to a wireless deco to another deco (not on the main deco)
Yes you can, in fact you get faster speeds that way.
Check out an example of this: th-cam.com/video/-j2GJRdc2zI/w-d-xo.html
Would you happen to know if these routers (or mesh setups in general) need to be wired in series the way showed in wired backhaul portion or is the configuration of modem->main router->24 port switch->other 2 APs? Essentially the main router would have both APs wired directly to it rather than the 3rd AP being directly wired to the 2nd AP.
Hi, and thank you for this video!
I have one question, can I make the following:
From the main router, as it has 4 outputs : using 3 outputs, each one connected directly to a satellite, so making 3 satellites in the house, each being directly connected to a differnet output of the router. ?
I mean they are not connected to directly to each others but getting the signal from the routet directly.
by main router, are you referring to a non Deco router? If that's the case, you would need to run the Deco in access point mode which is not something I recommend.
Great video. I do have one question. I have a fiber optic modem using a similar TP-Link mesh system, Deco AX3000 X55. I am assuming that I need 2 MoCA units for this setup...Correct?
No. MoCA is only for when your connection comes through coax cable from your ISP. Fiber optics are far superior than coax or even ethernet.
Great info thank you...answered the few questions I still had on wiring up a mesh system.
Glad it was useful
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@@V12BenzAMG Appreciate It!
I experience frequent power shortages where I live, is it recommended to get a powerbank for each of my deco X10 ?
Great video! Is there a way to power the nodes by POE?
Thanks, no these don't support PoE. Check out the X50-PoE, I've reviewed those as well
@@landpet thanks! Will watch 🫡
Thanks for the explanation! Very thorough and informative!
Glad it was helpful!
good job explaining the product! Thanks!!
Glad it was helpful!
This guy is giving good information.
Thanks
If you have a modem/router combo. In stead of putting it in bridge mod why not use the router as well to be part of the mesh?
can i connect my 6 deco m5 units to a switch and the switch to modem? or do i have to connect the main deco unit to modem directly then the other 5 to a switch which i'll connect to the modem "i'll set them all up as AP mode even the main"
Can I add a Ethernet switch to any of the nodes to connect wired devices?
Thank you
You did a great job answering most of the questions except one. Can I connect the main mesh router with an unmanaged switch and connect the other mesh units with the same switch and acting like one mesh system? A bonus question, can I connect an unmanaged switch with the modem and then connect two separate mesh systems to the switch?
Thanks! Yes you can go from main router to unmanaged switch and from the unmanaged switch to all the other nodes. You cannot go from modem to unmanaged switch to router. Router must be connected directly to modem.
Thank you i also need the answer for his question 😊👍
Hello friend, I wanted to bother you with a question please. To install the TP-Link Deco XE75. Should you configure your company's router or modem to Bridge Mode? Thanks for your answer.
If you have a modem router combo, then that router portion should be configured to bridge mode. If you just have a modem, nothing needs to be done aside from setting up the Deco
I have a question. Someone might have already asked, but I'm going to ask anyway because I'm confused. On a 6e mesh router wouldn't you lose one of the bands if you do a wired back haul? Then what would be the point of having a 6e router?
Super curious when you do a wired backhaul do the ethernet wires have to come from the main router itself or can you Dasie chain them or which one would be better?
Either one is fine, there is essentially no difference.
How would there be coax connection ports on any rooms?
Great Explanation
I Want to share my experience With Tp Link Mesh:
I have a mixed Back haul mesh system, my house has two floors, I got internet optical fiber directly from the second floor (940Mb symetrical), then From my Router I Connect the first Tp lnk Deco, there is running cable to the next room to the sencond TP Link deco in my office and this to a Swtich for conect others devices... In the first floor I have a Deco wireless conected to the others two. The first floor is entirely concrete and for years the wifi conectivity was a problem in my house, since i bought the tp-link deco in 2020 (M4 - 3 pack) the problem was resolved, it exceeded my expectations, now I'm thinking in upgrade to TP-Link Tri-Band WiFi 7 BE22000 not for need but thinking in future speeds upgrades, I don't do it yet because I need to confirm if this one can handle 220V AC, I'm from Chile
Regards!
Thanks for this. Is there any reasons that connecting one of the Decos to a 2nd unmanaged gigabit switch wouldn’t work? (ISP/ONT->Deco1->switch1->switch2-Deco2). I’m troubleshooting and can’t get it to connect via Ethernet for wired backhaul. TIA.
That should work just fine, check to make sure your switch works and the cables are good. Also try restarting everything.
Hello, I want to use a Deco X55 Pro in my already set up Ethernet Lan with computers, surveillance nvr, and a couple of printers attached to it. I receive the internet from a modem/router which was connected to the main Deco and then the Deco with a Cat 7 cable to an unmanned switch...this switch links computers and printers... Something went definetely wrong, since most of the internet speed was lost when reaching the cabled computers and the computers could not find the printers. Obviously I did something wrong or am missing some configuration needed in the Deco app options... I would appreciate a lot any insight you might have on my problem... Thanks for your videos.
what do you mean bridge mode? how do you do that? is that what joins both network names? because i see my original and now the new deco network names when i look up wifis
If you have a modem router combo, you need to disable the router portion of that by either disabling it or by putting it in bridge mode. Bridge mode essentially disable your router functionality
You can typically access the modem router combo settings by going to a specific up address or link that should be a sticker on your modem/router combo. You can also call your ISP and request a modem only with no router functionality and run the deco to that.
Or you can run your deco in access point mode which will just show your original WiFi name.
Will this work: Modem router to Switch. And then from switch, connects the 3 mesh and some other devices?
Only if you run mesh in access point mode in the deco app under advanced section
@@landpet thanks alot!
Would the wired backhaul work if all of them are connected directly to the modem? My cable routing doesn't allow me to daisy chain them
I don’t know how your modem works if it’s a modem router combo or not. I don’t believe that will work
Does replacing my provider’s router will enhance the coverage of the wifi? My current router is just some ZTE 2 band modem provided by my ISP.
Typically yes
Can I use my up to 10g speed xfinity modem/router with one of these devices connected to each other with an Ethernet cable, 2nd cube router in my other room, and last but not least, the last one on the other end of my home? 2nd and 3rd routers would be wireless (4000sq feet place single floor).
How do you connect the backhaul satellites to the "main" router. And what if you have > 3 of these, such as 5 or six, they cannot connect to the main unit wired.
You can daisy chain them as well. The important part is connecting the modem to the router directly via ethernet. After that, you have a lot of choices on how to connect things. You can even get a switch after the first deco router and that can connect to all other decos. There is a limit to how many you can have, I don't know the exact amount, but it will be around 5 or so.
@@landpet Thank you, i know a lot about home networking myself, and I can tell those youtubers who know what they are talking about and you are one of the few.
Thank you so much for a really informative video and has helped me so much understand how it all works
You’re welcome
What you are not covering is access point mode. Just router mode. People may think they always need to have 2 lan ports to connect deco in weird mode. It's not true.
Not sure I understand, I do cover wireless backhaul mode for the secondary device acting as an access point if that’s what you’re referring to.
If you’re referring to the access point operation, then you need a separate router for that but that’s not something I recommend.
I have the X55. Can i connect 2 Decos directly to the modem/router by ethernet, instead of tying them from router->Deco->Deco? For example, if my router is in the middle of the house can i connect one deco by ethernet to the left side of the house, and then another deco on the right side of the house, both coming into the center router/modem, and then a 3rd wirelessly downstairs?
Typically the answer is no
What TP-LINK switches could I use instead of Netgear?
great video, explained everything!
No problem!
Can you keep buying single nodes to add onto the mesh network?
Yes but there is a limit, probably around 5 or so
How do you connect X55 pro wirelessly from your ISP modem?
You need to connect those via Ethernet
Can i have a Modem connect to wifi router then connect to Mesh system?
You could of you run the mesh in access point mode. But I would recommend disabling the WiFi on that router. Generally speaking it’s best if you don’t do that
do you have a video that compares this deco mesh to the google nest wifi pro?
Not this one specifically
ik this is a year later lol but if I got one of these how does it work wirelessly is it just being plugged into the wall for power?
yes, plugin to the wall power and place it close enough (30 ft to 50 ft typically) and it will connect
Can you connect all the nodes directly to the modem? Or is that not advised?
No
@@landpet Could you elaborate more on why that’s not advised?
I need physical wps button to add my printer easily. Does it have physical WPS Button?
I think it has a logical WPS button in the app.
Let's say I just want wifi access in my room I have an unmanaged switch in the room next to me can I just hook up one of these to the switch and that will give me access to my existing wifi ? I'm still confused on how this all works I'm not trying to replace my current router just a Verizon FiOS one. Just need my internet extended
Can you connect the third deco to the main deco as well? 5:50
Yes
@@landpet so you dont need a switch to connect both of them to the main deco? You can connec them to the main one bu wire directly?
can I add a 4th or more mesh routers to cover a larger area?
Yes you can, there typically is a limit. I don’t know what it is with deco but it’s usually no more than 5 or 6 units. 4 is fine.
Hi, all your videos are very informative and helpful
Can you help with a question please
I have the three pack with the modem connected to the first one then a ethernet cable from the first one to a unmanaged switch.
From the unmanaged switch a ethernet cable goes across the house to another unmanaged switch where a ethernet cable goes from that switch into number two node.
Third node a room away is connected wireless and the system is setup for the 6 band to be dedicated backhaul.
I have a option to go from number two switch with another cable and wire number three node.
Will this help and then is the setting for 6 band as dedicated backhaul pointless and is it better at that point to assign 6 band to wireless devices
A couple devices do use 6e but the majority are 5
Thanks
Thanks! I answered your question on the other comment
If I only have one Deco and want to use it as an access point with an existing router that I have, how can I do so? I set it up but is not working
Did you daisy chain these?
you can
Hi appreciate any help. Im using linksys. I have 2 meshes and it was set up as individual wifi with 2 separate SSIDs. I think I tried to changed it to wired backhaul setup before but it some how didnt work. Is there anything I need to do like reset something on the mesh routers?
I have a combined modem/router from the ISP, i have TP Link Deco X50 mesh connected to it via ethernet and in bridge mode. But i get problems with the DHCP, i have to restart the modem and then it`s only the active connected units that get automatically assigned IP adresses etc. If i try to connect after that the DHCP won`t work, no IP-adresses are assigned. I know if i put an router between the modem and the Deco the DHCP will work. It`s just annoying that i can`t have a clean setup with just the Decos.
What I recommend is putting your router from your modem/router combo in bridge mode and running the deco in router mode. Also make sure, only one deco is connected to your modem directly. Make sure the other decos connect either to the main deco or through each other to the main deco.
@@landpet Thanks for the answer, it works smooth now!
Hey, what's the name of the coax F-Type Connector with black grip, it makes so much easier to screw in, thanks!
I forget, the cable came like that
ok no worries, thanks for the quick reply!@@landpet
my isp has a modem/router combo, what i did is ive only disable the wifi of the isp of that device and i connected my deco as a router, it works just fine and achieved the advertised speed, should i still convert my isp modem to bridge mode?
That can also work but you could have 2 separate networks that way. If it works and you're happy, no need to change
If I only need to connect the Ethernet cable to my pc and I’m not trying to increase the wifi capacity, can I just use the moca adapters for a back haul connection without the mesh Wi-Fi system? (I don’t have the possibility to run Ethernet cables from room to room)
Yes you can use the MoCA by itself to your PC
What is the effect of setting the same wifi name and password as the isp modem/router, as you mentioned in this video? Does it have the tplink setup on the same network SSID as the isp modem/router, and provide a wifi "mesh" on the same network also, ie handoff of device seamlessly to various pucks as you walk around the house. What happens if someone's phone connects to the isp modem/router... could they still access files on a pc that is hardwired to one of the tplink access points?
This would be great. I need a mesh that can play nice with my ISP modem/router, because I'd like to run the 10G wired to an unmanaged switch to plug in a bunch of devices such as pc, nas etc off of that switch; and then let everyone who has phones run around the house connecting to various mesh points, but also be able to access files on the network nas, pc etc. I know my existing Google wifi doesn't do it. Wondering if TPlink or others would?
When I say to use the same name, I'm saying that so your devices can connect to the new router without having to go and reprogram each device. This assumes you don't have a modem/router combo or have disabled the router portion of the modem/router combo.
If you want to keep your router active from your modem/router combo then you could get this deco and run it in access point mode. There is no SSID you name, it just uses whatever the main router is and extends that signal. I'm personally not a fan of this but it could work.
Hello, I just got the deco ax3000. I had issue with dead zones. I bought a new arris modem and the decos. I set up the decos and now my WiFi is worse. Can someone explain why? My isp plan is 800mbps, but I used to average 600ish. Why is my WiFi worse I also only set up just 2 of my three decos
Very well explained thanks
You are welcome
Can I run a second splitter at the second moca adapter location? One line going into the moca adapter and the other going into my cable tv box?
Yes
Can I set up the router to my PC and NOT my phone?
Your phone is only used to setup the router itself, once the router is setup it works with your computer, phone and all other compatible devices in your home.
@@landpetThat blows, my current modem and router are hooked directly to my pc and then I configure my phone to use the wifi signal. What's the deal with it having to be my phone to set it up? Any routers out there that does it the pc method and not by a phone? I really hate using my phone for everything.
my modem has built in router w/ 4 ethernet ports. Can i connect each Deco to its own ethernet port on the modem/router?
you would need to run the deco in access point mode but even than, the deco's should be connected to each other whether through a switch or not
Is it possible to maintain my current router (an tp link ac5400x) and still use a Deco mesh? Planning to have the modem/router (pldt) conenxted to my ac5400 wan, then have the lan port 4 wired to the main node of the deco
Will this setup work? And will this affect the speed?
I am relying on my ac5400 as all my devices are connected to it. Just need the deco to act as access point for wireless devices (for better speeds)
Hello!!! When I started to configure my mesh, I installed only 3 DECO M4’s.
Is there a problem if I install now 3 M5 on the same mesh? Will they “talk” to each other?
Thank you!!!
I don't know what the limit is, maybe 5 or 6 or more but up to 5 it should be OK as long as you add it to the network rather than setup as a new one. But if you're going wireless backhaul, speeds will dwindle.
@@landpet thank you very much!!! ❤️🤙🏻
@@dalgiobarros4146 no problem
How to connecting via Managed Switch..?
I haven't covered that yet, I may in the future. Some options that need to be set with those and you have many options with those.
Thinking of getting the TP Deco XE75 to connect to Xfinity XB7 gateway. Can I use the TP Deco as access points only and still use the Gateway router? Will the ap Mode give me the good coverage ? I've heard there are issues putting the gateway into bridge mode and losing all the existing device connections
Yes you can use the XE75 in access point mode, its an option in the advanced section of the deco app
Is it better to run the XE75 in router wifi mode and place the gateway in bridge mode? At what point in the xe75 setup do you put the gateway in bridge mode?@@landpet
I had question about moca. I have two unmanaged switches. One (net gear switch ) by the ont from isp and one (qnap 10switch) in other location where other moca device is at. Everything runs fine. I bought another qnap unmanaged switch to change the netgear one. Ever time I hook up moca Ethernet cable it has loopback error.
If your going from ONT to router to unmanaged switch to MoCA then to MoCA to other unmanned switch, it should work just fine. One thing with noting is that MoCA does limit to 16 devices. I haven't tested this but that may be your issue as well.
@@landpet thanks.. thats how i have it wired.. when i have netgear switch on ont side and qnap switch on the other end it works fine. when i use both qnap switches it does a loopback error on the ethernet that is hooked up to the moca adapters... i cant figure out whats going on.
@@chabuki69 hmm, assuming yours is wired correctly and the qnap is not a managed switch where you actually need to set some settings, I don't know why off the top of my head why you would be getting that.
Idk what to do, i have a version of these deco’s but when i plug a LAN cable in it from that to the pc the pc LAN port has a grenn light but also a red/ orange?? And the Ethernet then work but ss soon im in a game (cus im a gamer), i can randomly get kicked out and stuff? But just happens on the gaming, not if i for example just sit on TH-cam or Netflix and stuff??
Make sure your LAN cable is Cat5E or Cat6
Nice - when it works. Mine still looking wirelessly. UGH !!!
Faq pro max
I was trying to delete some one else’s comment in here and deleted my own by mistake. only because I addressed the topic in a better tone understand way.