I loved the Cornell dietitian's take. He's very realistic! Chocolate milk provides the perfect carb-to-protein ratio for recovery, calcium for bone health, is cost-efficient for a college athlete, and tends to be something athletes enjoy to drink. Yes, we should reduce processed foods, but food accessibility and how a collegiate athlete enjoys food/drinks is pivotal in driving their nutrition. The problem brought up with calcium dysregulation comes into play only when we're talking about typical Americans that eat the standard american diet. The standard american diet contains far too much processed foods, distorted portions, excessive dairy products, etc., but when discussing an athlete who utilizes their calories, electrolytes, and minerals, chocolate milk does not pose an issue.
I like Clint's take on nutrition and pretty much applies to how I tailor my diet. I eat whole foods as much as possible but still enjoy donuts and ice cream on occasion. The 80/20 rule is basically what works best for me. I do what works for me, my lifestyle, goals and outcome. I think the takeaway is more people need to focus on what works for them and not chase the next fad diet or what everyone else is doing.
There paraphrasing of what he actually said was totally off LOL. I think these Spartan podcast people have their own agenda and the dietitian was saying that a lot of foods were healthy and good at certain times for certain populations and or athletes and they just didn’t want to except it. Like the goldfish or chocolate milk and meat. FYI not everybody wants to be a vegan nor is it necessarily the most optimal diet regime.
Love the dialog! "Force of Nature" - Liard Hamilton Great read. The ultimate solution is keeping it clean, keep it simple, understand carbs, fats and protein and their absorption. I was raised on 1 gallon of whole milk/day - straight from the cow in Wisconsin. I have not touched diary drinks for many many years, and inflammation and GI issues/bloatedness was resolved. I can't buy into Goldfish or chocolate milk for adults. There are better sources in my opinion. But that's the great thing about it. Will beats skill.
Having watched all the videos thus far, I think this just solidifies the idea that there is no silver bullet and everyone’s body is slightly different. The idea is not to follow a strict guideline, but too remain focused on healthy decisions. I believe your body will tell you what it needs and when it needs it once you have cleared out any mental addictions to specific foods. The milk thing surprised me though. At the times I have trained the hardest, I have craved chocolate milk afterwards. I just thought it was an old craving from when I use to drink chocolate protein shakes for recovery. Maybe there is more to it.
Interesting post interview conversation. Each of your post interview comments/views, seem right in line with your pasts and what pair of glasses your worlds were shaped by.
You need to interview Aubrey Marcus Founder of ONNIT. I'm surprised Spartan Race isn't sponsored by ONNIT. I think Joe would enjoy talking with him and his supplement line and products.
Worry no more about searching for the best supplement because this will give you an everlasting solution to building up your muscles and recovering them as well
For longevity, processed foods and chronic refeeding (especially starchy carbs or sugars) will be harmful. Clint is talking about high intensity athletes. High intensity is not a marathon, it is anaerobic, maximal effort type pf exercise. Wrestlers are carb burners. You cannot be a fat burner and compete to your maximum intensity if you are low carb. Wrestlers train near their max heart rate almost daily ! A fat burner, ketogenic raw vegan diet would simply not stand up under this type of diet. Wrestlers high intensity athletes simply don't have the luxury of eating slow/low carb diets all the time, they over train and because of that, they have to over fuel carbs.
"I don't know why a nutritionist is saying that milk is healthy for you" I can help you there. He is just going by scientific data. Can you explain why you think milk is not good, without using pseudo-science or guesses?
Yes, milk is high sugar and lots of probiotics...then it gets pasteurized and turns into sugar water. You don't want high level athletes that have candida and yeast overgrowth to have sugar water, in fact nobody should unless its raw
@RaJu ViMa yes a good book would be How to Eat Move and Be Healthy by Paul Chek. If you want a professional to work with you that works with athletes and Gen-pop just let me know I will refer
Very realistic views for 19 yr old kids on a college campus. This guy is the contradiction of every guest Joe has had on lol...Yeah Zinc and magnesium are great especially from meat.
I'm sorry but I had great difficulty respecting anything this guy said after he claimed that "chocolate milk is the gold standard". For who? The amount of actual data out there that shows how terrible milk is for you is shocking. Not only is it terrible from a nutritional standpoint, casein, which is the primary protein in milk, has been shown to actually promote cancerous growth. It's shocking that Cornell has him as their head nutritionist.
Check out our interviews with John Durant (Paleo Manifesto,) Fred Bisci (lived on a raw diet for 40 years) and Chris Kresser to hear some other takes on nutrition
choc milk is very common.... The olympic training center provides a whole wheat peanut butter and jelly sandwich and chocolate milk after working out. It have to to with "quick carbs"/glycogen replenishment and protein/fat makeup.
I'm sure this guy is very knowledgeable, but I felt like he was very much in line with conventional American wisdom when it comes to how we should fuel our bodies, and I actually stopped watching the podcast. I've been vegan for several years, and I have more strength, endurance, and recovery ability than ever.
+Deserae Clarke check out our interviews with Dr. Fred Bisci (has eaten a raw diet for 50 years) and John Durant (author of the Paleo Manifesto,) for some alternate takes on nutrition.
+Spartan Up! Thanks! I've watched both and enjoyed. Just wanted to clarify too that I think every athlete, pro or otherwise, needs to learn to listen to their body and what works for them. Just like I didn't think someone should say veganism doesn't work well for amateur athletes, I can't say that chocolate milk doesn't work either. We should critically consider the information and source, and then how it fits in to our own approach to health.
I loved the Cornell dietitian's take. He's very realistic! Chocolate milk provides the perfect carb-to-protein ratio for recovery, calcium for bone health, is cost-efficient for a college athlete, and tends to be something athletes enjoy to drink. Yes, we should reduce processed foods, but food accessibility and how a collegiate athlete enjoys food/drinks is pivotal in driving their nutrition. The problem brought up with calcium dysregulation comes into play only when we're talking about typical Americans that eat the standard american diet. The standard american diet contains far too much processed foods, distorted portions, excessive dairy products, etc., but when discussing an athlete who utilizes their calories, electrolytes, and minerals, chocolate milk does not pose an issue.
I like Clint's take on nutrition and pretty much applies to how I tailor my diet. I eat whole foods as much as possible but still enjoy donuts and ice cream on occasion. The 80/20 rule is basically what works best for me. I do what works for me, my lifestyle, goals and outcome. I think the takeaway is more people need to focus on what works for them and not chase the next fad diet or what everyone else is doing.
There paraphrasing of what he actually said was totally off LOL. I think these Spartan podcast people have their own agenda and the dietitian was saying that a lot of foods were healthy and good at certain times for certain populations and or athletes and they just didn’t want to except it. Like the goldfish or chocolate milk and meat. FYI not everybody wants to be a vegan nor is it necessarily the most optimal diet regime.
Love the dialog! "Force of Nature" - Liard Hamilton Great read. The ultimate solution is keeping it clean, keep it simple, understand carbs, fats and protein and their absorption. I was raised on 1 gallon of whole milk/day - straight from the cow in Wisconsin. I have not touched diary drinks for many many years, and inflammation and GI issues/bloatedness was resolved. I can't buy into Goldfish or chocolate milk for adults. There are better sources in my opinion. But that's the great thing about it. Will beats skill.
Having watched all the videos thus far, I think this just
solidifies the idea that there is no silver bullet and everyone’s body is
slightly different. The idea is not to follow a strict guideline, but too remain
focused on healthy decisions. I believe your body will tell you what it needs
and when it needs it once you have cleared out any mental addictions to
specific foods.
The milk thing surprised me though. At the times I have
trained the hardest, I have craved chocolate milk afterwards. I just thought it
was an old craving from when I use to drink chocolate protein shakes for
recovery. Maybe there is more to it.
Interesting post interview conversation. Each of your post interview comments/views, seem right in line with your pasts and what pair of glasses your worlds were shaped by.
+Robert Santangelo so true. That's what makes a great team.
Raw water? "Milk takes calcium away from you" Why is she even in this video? She has nothing to add.
if you threw broccoli and kale into a pool it would turn green too :)
These guys are looneys. Veganism is trash, plant based is trash, keto/carnivore is king for *return* on investment.
Is that Kyle Dake at 13:57??
You need to interview Aubrey Marcus Founder of ONNIT. I'm surprised Spartan Race isn't sponsored by ONNIT. I think Joe would enjoy talking with him and his supplement line and products.
Specialist sports nutrition
Worry no more about searching for the best supplement because this will give you an everlasting solution to building up your muscles and recovering them as well
For longevity, processed foods and chronic refeeding (especially starchy carbs or sugars) will be harmful. Clint is talking about high intensity athletes. High intensity is not a marathon, it is anaerobic, maximal effort type pf exercise. Wrestlers are carb burners. You cannot be a fat burner and compete to your maximum intensity if you are low carb. Wrestlers train near their max heart rate almost daily ! A fat burner, ketogenic raw vegan diet would simply not stand up under this type of diet. Wrestlers high intensity athletes simply don't have the luxury of eating slow/low carb diets all the time, they over train and because of that, they have to over fuel carbs.
"I don't know why a nutritionist is saying that milk is healthy for you"
I can help you there. He is just going by scientific data.
Can you explain why you think milk is not good, without using pseudo-science or guesses?
Yes, milk is high sugar and lots of probiotics...then it gets pasteurized and turns into sugar water. You don't want high level athletes that have candida and yeast overgrowth to have sugar water, in fact nobody should unless its raw
@RaJu ViMa yes a good book would be How to Eat Move and Be Healthy by Paul Chek. If you want a professional to work with you that works with athletes and Gen-pop just let me know I will refer
Very realistic views for 19 yr old kids on a college campus. This guy is the contradiction of every guest Joe has had on lol...Yeah Zinc and magnesium are great especially from meat.
Because Cornell is a dairy school.
Among the four talkers, the Cornell doc looks the most unhealthy 🧐
Camel milk and cacao nibs says the smallest and weakest in the room.
I'm sorry but I had great difficulty respecting anything this guy said after he claimed that "chocolate milk is the gold standard". For who? The amount of actual data out there that shows how terrible milk is for you is shocking. Not only is it terrible from a nutritional standpoint, casein, which is the primary protein in milk, has been shown to actually promote cancerous growth. It's shocking that Cornell has him as their head nutritionist.
Check out our interviews with John Durant
(Paleo Manifesto,) Fred Bisci (lived on a raw diet for 40 years) and
Chris Kresser to hear some other takes on nutrition
choc milk is very common.... The olympic training center provides a whole wheat peanut butter and jelly sandwich and chocolate milk after working out. It have to to with "quick carbs"/glycogen replenishment and protein/fat makeup.
I'm sure this guy is very knowledgeable, but I felt like he was very much in line with conventional American wisdom when it comes to how we should fuel our bodies, and I actually stopped watching the podcast. I've been vegan for several years, and I have more strength, endurance, and recovery ability than ever.
+Deserae Clarke check out our interviews with Dr. Fred Bisci (has eaten a raw diet for 50 years) and John Durant (author of the Paleo Manifesto,) for some alternate takes on nutrition.
+Spartan Up! Thanks! I've watched both and enjoyed. Just wanted to clarify too that I think every athlete, pro or otherwise, needs to learn to listen to their body and what works for them. Just like I didn't think someone should say veganism doesn't work well for amateur athletes, I can't say that chocolate milk doesn't work either. We should critically consider the information and source, and then how it fits in to our own approach to health.
Coffee has basically ZERO nutritional value. I don't like to see a sports nutritionalist beat around the bush on this.
Yeah I wouldn’t take advice from that guy..