Karajan was a poet, without ever trying to be; he might have been praising Bohm here, but I think that he asserts the approach that enabled Karajan himself to be the great Bruckner conductor that he was.
Karajan - 🎼" It takes a very long time until one has reached this point... True mastery! - But everything has to be done first "... - To learn the tricks... To acquire the ''skill'' - later... much later... Doing consists in not doing... [ Something about knowledge & humility ] ...☀ Too bad; this Video is good - but a bit ''short''... We need more of this... Thank's for posting...
This is Very Very important thing. He seems to be talking about his ally Dr.Karl Böhm, who was like his spiritual brother, and is actually talking about himself's own Enlightenment stance. The important thing is the time of the awareness and the close shared will vector with his orchestra. The first thing I feel is that Japanese Bushido = Zaratustra.
This is occultism, and the spirituality is demonic. Karajan obviously made no secret of this. He and others in his guild were also involved in occultism and spiritualism. So who do these people pay the price to for their success?
Ich habe mich erinnert, wie in china eine strasse in den berg geschlagen wurde, das geht nur, wenn alle an einem strang ziehen, was nicht selbstverständlich ist, aber so ist ja auch die grosse mauer entstanden
Never heard Bohm conduct. Saw Karajan several times. Once at the Met doing Valkyrie in the 1960s. Great musician. I could never really understand his conducting style. Hunched over, eyes almost closed, not looking at the orchestra. I suppose it worked for him but every conductor I have ever seen uses his eyes as well as baton. Even if you look at the old videos of Toscanini conducting NBC Symphony, he is always looking. I heard a story that Fritz Reiner would bring a whole brass section in with a glance and nod
There is a great interview with him where he explains the closed eyes. He was practicing yoga for 35 years and for him to fully concentrate and immerse into a situation he had to close his eyes. But than, he said, he was able to feel everything. Even, one times he noticed that a winda musician ran out of breath and he slowed it down just a bit. And the musician came afterwards to him and said I ran out of breath you slowed it down and Karajan said, see I felt that. He only did that in concerts not rehearsals
That was a lesson in the occult. For information ( as today people are no longer able to differentiate): these are the practices of the demonic mysteries, satanic evil itself. And Karajan makes it clear that music-making at the highest level is just that: occult, i.e. connected with demonic influences and powers. How justified the word "magic", which is constantly used in relation to music today, is! That's why he allowed himself to conduct with his eyes closed ... His philosophy and methods were occult, and the top echelons of classical music were and are just as full of these satanic influences as rock music and similar abysmal filth.
Comenzamos mal porque no dice nada de Karl Bohm que como director, , por cierto, es muy superior a Karajan. Y lo digo porque las aportaciones de Furwaengler, Klemperer, Bohm, Celinbidache, son objetivas, remarcables, han abierto nuevos caminos. Karajan como tantos otros, es solo un estilo, sin más. Pero no se puede aprender de él nada nuevo.
This spiritual experience of transcending "doing" and entering into "non-doing" is indeed one of the profound states of great spiritual achievement. Unfortunately, due to a certain spiritual failing in his not having properly attended to his extreme egotism (even narcissism) - Karajan was far from achieving this stature. And, I would say the same about Bohm. The key to true greatness of character, requires a well regulated temperament, profound and earnest concern for one's friends and colleagues - and most importantly - deep humility. These two famous musical practitioners achieved none of those attributes of character, I'm am sorry to say. And to a careful listener of the music executed by these two skilled conductors, one is sadly struck on a deep level by this awareness.
It seems obvious to me, Tom, that you really don't understand German and you certainly don't understand v. Karajan. If you did you would perhaps see that he is right on the money and your interpretation is way off base. v.K. is paying a genuine compliment to Böhm and he DOES capture what was great about him.
Tom Lambert No the reason why Karajan said that is because someone like you would over analyse and get him wrong. You would've said something like this even if he didn't say that phrase. Because you were already analysing too much and suspicious of his behaviour
Karajan was a poet, without ever trying to be; he might have been praising Bohm here, but I think that he asserts the approach that enabled Karajan himself to be the great Bruckner conductor that he was.
Bohm and Karajan were avowed Nazis, but that never prevented them from being successful Germans.
Chapeau, Herr Maestro Karajan !
Avec un peu d’amnésie historique…
Karajan - 🎼" It takes a very long time until one has reached this point...
True mastery! - But everything has to be done first "... - To learn the tricks...
To acquire the ''skill'' - later... much later... Doing consists in not doing...
[ Something about knowledge & humility ] ...☀
Too bad; this Video is good - but a bit ''short''...
We need more of this... Thank's for posting...
Learning everything about the music is the easy part forgetting it rationally is the difficult part ,,because thats the moment it becomes ART!
Wunderbarer Herr von Karajan
Großartig ! Danke Maestro.
I ❤ Bohm.
RIP Karl Böhm (born #otd in 1894) and Herbert von Karajan 🌹
Both great Nazi sympathizers.
道常无为而无不为 nice quote
Karajan and Bohm are the Third Reich's greatest conductors. The German spirit of music lives in them.
you forgot about Wilhelm Furtwangler
What do you actually like?
@@mrtchaikovsky Them conducting a Holocaust concert in hell.
@@psijicassassin7166 My goodness, so much bile. Every time I see one of your comments, you just mindlessly spew vitriol.
And Kna
HvK is actually talking about himself.
This is Very Very important thing.
He seems to be talking about his ally Dr.Karl Böhm, who was like his spiritual brother, and is actually talking about himself's own Enlightenment stance.
The important thing is the time of the awareness and the close shared will vector with his orchestra. The first thing I feel is that Japanese Bushido = Zaratustra.
Bohm and Karajan were avowed Nazis, but that never prevented them from being successful Germans.
This is occultism, and the spirituality is demonic.
Karajan obviously made no secret of this. He and others in his guild were also involved in occultism and spiritualism.
So who do these people pay the price to for their success?
?!? Perhaps I missed something in this video, but I didn't hear him say one word about Böhm!
He prefered to talk about himself....;-)
He’s actually complimenting Böhm, who’s sitting in the front row for this birthday tribute.
👏👏👏🥰💪👏👏🥁🎶
Is the narrator from Thomas & Friends?!
Toll von herbert von karajan was er sagt
Ich habe mich erinnert, wie in china eine strasse in den berg geschlagen wurde, das geht nur, wenn alle an einem strang ziehen, was nicht selbstverständlich ist, aber so ist ja auch die grosse mauer entstanden
“无为”
Ailopip Shostakofiev 牛逼
Never heard Bohm conduct. Saw Karajan several times. Once at the Met doing Valkyrie in the 1960s. Great musician. I could never really understand his conducting style. Hunched over, eyes almost closed, not looking at the orchestra. I suppose it worked for him but every conductor I have ever seen uses his eyes as well as baton. Even if you look at the old videos of Toscanini conducting NBC Symphony, he is always looking. I heard a story that Fritz Reiner would bring a whole brass section in with a glance and nod
There is a great interview with him where he explains the closed eyes. He was practicing yoga for 35 years and for him to fully concentrate and immerse into a situation he had to close his eyes. But than, he said, he was able to feel everything. Even, one times he noticed that a winda musician ran out of breath and he slowed it down just a bit. And the musician came afterwards to him and said I ran out of breath you slowed it down and Karajan said, see I felt that. He only did that in concerts not rehearsals
You never heard Bohm conduct? Lol you know recordings exist, right?
That was a lesson in the occult.
For information ( as today people are no longer able to differentiate): these are the practices of the demonic mysteries, satanic evil itself. And Karajan makes it clear that music-making at the highest level is just that: occult, i.e. connected with demonic influences and powers.
How justified the word "magic", which is constantly used in relation to music today, is!
That's why he allowed himself to conduct with his eyes closed ... His philosophy and methods were occult, and the top echelons of classical music were and are just as full of these satanic influences as rock music and similar abysmal filth.
Huh?
Comenzamos mal porque no dice nada de Karl Bohm que como director, , por cierto, es muy superior a Karajan. Y lo digo porque las aportaciones de Furwaengler, Klemperer, Bohm, Celinbidache, son objetivas, remarcables, han abierto nuevos caminos. Karajan como tantos otros, es solo un estilo, sin más. Pero no se puede aprender de él nada nuevo.
Yo diría lo mismo de Celibidache 🤷
This spiritual experience of transcending "doing" and entering into "non-doing" is indeed one of the profound states of great spiritual achievement. Unfortunately, due to a certain spiritual failing in his not having properly attended to his extreme egotism (even narcissism) - Karajan was far from achieving this stature. And, I would say the same about Bohm. The key to true greatness of character, requires a well regulated temperament, profound and earnest concern for one's friends and colleagues - and most importantly - deep humility. These two famous musical practitioners achieved none of those attributes of character, I'm am sorry to say.
And to a careful listener of the music executed by these two skilled conductors, one is sadly struck on a deep level by this awareness.
What an interesting perspective. Thanks! How do you feel about Carlos Kleiber in this respect?
@@ClassicHolic or Bernstein? Or Toscanini? I think a conductor without egoism may be a contradiction in terms.
Böhm konnte auch langweilig und gelangweilt sein.
He's setting about to tell us how great he (Karajan) is, and does not at all capture what was great about Böhm.
+Tom Lambert Can you please specify in which way and in which part does he steer the oration to how great he is instead of talking about Böhm?
+Leonardo Paoletti To Karajan there was only one great conductor at world. He himself.
It seems obvious to me, Tom, that you really don't understand German and you certainly don't understand v. Karajan.
If you did you would perhaps see that he is right on the money and your interpretation is way off base. v.K. is paying a genuine compliment to Böhm and he DOES capture what was great about him.
Normally you are right, but in this case he is praising the other guy!
Left-handed compliments. When he says "please don't get me wrong," he gives himself away. Not nice.
Indeed, over analysis - and in fact wrong analysis by Mr Lambert. Karajan's comments were truly beautiful, provided one is open to understanding them.
Tom Lambert
No the reason why Karajan said that is because someone like you would over analyse and get him wrong.
You would've said something like this even if he didn't say that phrase. Because you were already analysing too much and suspicious of his behaviour
No, Tom. Karajan says that because he is quoting Asian philosopy and that could be understood wrongly by us Westerners.
Never liked the man! Karl Bohm was a much better conductor!
Two great conductors two bad people
A man who loved Mozart as deeply and sincerely as Karl Böhm will never be a bad person
@pe-peron8441lol he was a bad bitch