Telling us which high-level corporate conglomerates to reach you on in the notes of _THIS_ video. Ahh, irony... I think something Uncle Ted didn't articulate well was simply feeling like he couldn't have His Choice under His Terms. It seems childish, but... wasn't he though? He conflated freedom with having no oversight. That just allows other free people to overpower us. It's a childish idealism. Why does Monsanto have to pay lobbying $ to be able to spray Glyphosate? Don't they already have more power than any of the individuals wishing to *stop* them? Wouldn't they already be free if not for this oversight? Uncle Ted wasn't actually much better at thinking things through than most other people.
I read this book before, I'm sure everyone should read this because this important, no matter what views you have. Every ideology should be corrected to save nature
Kinda is, you don't control it, you depend on it entirely, so you're a slave to whomever controls it , Texas should've taught people a lesson, do not depend on things you cannot produce or control, manual power is something you can produce, does not rely on the government, the state or anyone else but you, electricity on the other hand is heavily reliant on the government. Some things of course you can't do without electricity, but our usage of it should be conservative use it only for things that have no other way of being done
In Swedish the word for stream also means eletricity (ström), and in English we use the word "current" so he's not the only one to make that connection.
First you move out into a house in the middle of nowhere... Now you're talking about Ted Kaczynski... I'd be surprised if you aren't on 10 FBI watchlists.
Keeping small vs large scale technology in mind becomes very ironic when I'm downloading a 30GB proprietary software from Xilinx to program their FPGA in the hopes of learning how to build my own 8-bit CPU in case the world ends.
This was the first Luke Smith video I watched, and I thought "He's nuts, I wonder if he's going to be the next unabomber"… And then after sometime I got into all the FOSS stuff and found myself right back here in Luke Smith's channel… and now, after some time, this video makes sense to me more than ever
Such a great video. Exactly what I was trying to explain to a friend just the other day, but it just went in one ear and out the other. It's not about doing everything yourself. It's about minimizing your dependence on others. There are times when you are going to need someone's help, that's one of the reasons we live in societies with other people. But even when you are getting help from others, you should, whenever possible, at the very lest know how to do it yourself. Don't back yourself into a corner where you've given control of something important in your life over to someone who is looking to control you and doesn't have your best interests at heart.
There is another important way to distinguish technology: technology to help you do things that cannot be done otherwise and technology to help you do things that you are simply too lazy to do. The older I get, the more I find that happiness is derived from the things you learn to create, not the luxuries that can be created for you. After all, anxiety isn't brought on by a negative situation, it's brought on by the realisation that you don't know how to better it.
Also, re: refrigeration. They used to cut ice in winter and store it under ground through summer to have non-mechanical refrigeration. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebox. So one can argue that refrigeration can be done in a small-scale technology way. Nothing stops a village from digging up a cave and filling it with ice and use it through summer.
Where i live we sometimes get scheduled electricity cuts for two hours (more if there is shortage of power on grid) It's really sad to see how many people get mad just because they don't have WiFi or battery life on their phone, missing out on Facebook points or whatever. I work in IT, I'm self proclaimed nerd, hecc I play vidya and I'm nearly Luke's age, and two hours without power is the most refreshing thing sometimes. If the power is out all day, you cook meals with gas or wood fire, boil water in pots on flame for coffee, bathing, washing etc. You end up spending time with the people around you talking, about stuff, anything - even if it's to complain about the government and no electricity. You read a book in the sun, play boardgames at night, hecc do some exercise and spend an hour meditating to embrace the gift of consciousness in the moment - far away from all the tweets and shills and chans and memes and news and and and
For those interested in a recent critique of technology I recommend *Dmitry Orlov - Shrinking the Technosphere.* It covers Jacques Ellul and Ted Kaczynski (in Chapter 3 - Approaches and Departures). Orlov posits the Technosphere as an organism, _"an emergent intelligence that has enslaved and is destroying the biosphere - and us with it."_ It's a radical position but richly argued. He makes the distinction between good and bad technologies very crisp by providing a standard against which to rank them: the harm-benefit analysis table. This table of 32 dimensions may prove a little unwieldy, but Wendell Berry also had a set of 9 rules for technology. Speaking of which: _The lead scientist, Rabih Bashroush, calculated that five billion downloads and streams clocked up by the song Despacito, released in 2017, consumed as much electricity as Chad, Guinea-Bissau, Somalia, Sierra Leone and the Central African Republic put together in a single year._ Let's not even mention the energy use of Bitcoin.
I bought this book a couple months ago after seeing this comment while re-watching this vid.. nice book overall, minus all the praising putin at the end
Luke, I really enjoy your content. You are the most based person on the entirety of TH-cam and are opening my eyes. I came here for Linux content but now I am reconsidering my entire lifestyle.
Most the food people consume nowadays. It hasn't been that way... well ... ever in the thousands years past??? And people were rather safely reliant on that
I really enjoy your format, talking in front of your camera and without cut. I'm really impress by your work. Keep it up. lots of love from france edit : you also bring me to the linux world and this is epic
Serious stuff and bitter truth. Everybody needs to reconsider their though on new technology and identify whether it is using them or whether they are it.
I wonder if this could be mapped like dependency tree? Then you could map all of your dependencies for your distro, i mean life, and see what things are essential for the various run levels.
11:04 "Thirty-year-old linguistic student found dead in his cabin in the woods. Early findings suggest a severe case of botulism likely stemming from his consumption of self-made, non-refrigerated foods found onsite."
Luke, I have agreed with your approach, a conclusion I have reached on my own and have been pondering for quite some time. Regarding media, I have valued having my own copies of music, movies, books etc ever since finding and using records and CDs as a young teenager. It's funny, I wanted to give my best friend's sister a birthday present a CD (she's in high school) and she said she has no way to play it. That incident shows you the generation gap. I don't dislike or envy any of the younger kids, but I do think it's funny how much a 10-year difference makes - I grew up with physical media and I'm sticking with it, while nowadays such is eschewed. (I found records and was reviving them, even as my parents were not interested.) I bought an iPhone to store my music on it, but then I discovered my library is way bigger than my iPhone 128 GB storage. So I have resorted to finding (that was a task in itself) old iPods - the classics, with click wheels. Then I have modded them with SD boards from iflash.xyz. Even though that process is sort of organizational-dependent, I feel that I have a good understanding of the iPod design and can repair them if something breaks. So that works for me. Similarly, I find streaming not conducive for me, as it is easier for me to pull up a song on my iPod than to find it on Spotify/TH-cam etc. The same applies to films. It might be relatively easy to find a song on TH-cam, but finding a way to stream a given movie (e.g., you want to see title X) is almost Herculean to navigate, as the plurality of streaming services and rights obscures finding the movie itself. I think it would be fun to make a video between me and one of the youths, where we are given some song titles and movie titles and whoever can bring them up first (CD/DVD or streaming or whatever) wins. Ciao
"In next weeks Linux tutorial, I'm going to show you how to make your own movies and tv shows in your backyard. Stop relying on others for your entertainment."
As a musician I think you can still buy the music you want to listen to. Apart from that this really made me think, in my job I'd love to use open source software but it's still lacking too many functionalities I need.. Something seems to slowly changing though
Mhm, so no electricity dependency then. As an alternative to mains and solar, wind makes you dependent on wind and other stuff. Yeah, it's a dependency hell in real life. Luke is parsing the dependencies in his life hahah
I hate the fact that I'm so reliant on 'organisation dependent technology'. I don't hate technology; I'm not a luddite. I love it and want to work in IT, but I hate what it already does to us and could do. Maybe it's just my irrational fear of a future transhumanistic overregulated smart city society that could be a direct result of this tech boom. Anyway I feel like if things did hit the fan, me, my family and my friends would be among the first to go down since we're already so reliant on physical 'organisation dependent technology'. Even digitally, most of what I use I couldn't make it myself. A computer, a compiler, an IDE or maybe analog things. I can freak myself out with those thoughts for days on end.. It's the yearning of wanting to know everything about anything and wanting to reinvent the wheel for everything and it's an itch I can't scratch. I want to be self-reliant and sufficient, digitally and irl. I'm just thinking out loud.
There should be an in-between scale where you have to source technology from massive organizations, but are not dependent on them for continued use. For example, solar panels, once you have then, they continue to function independent of the massive global system that produced them. As opposed to grid power, which does not function at all independent of large organization.
I was thinking that a similar in between level also exists. While I think that solar panels are still organization dependent (they can't be easily repaired without technologically advanced spare parts), I was thinking of something like metal hand tools. You can't really produce good alloy steels without either a lot of luck or an advanced metallurgy industry, not to mention the need for huge amounts of labor to collect enough ore. However, most people could keep their metal handtools maintained, and can do a moderate amount of repairs without technologically advanced spare parts. (For instance, if I have a nice steel axe and the handle breaks, I can probably fix that without an industrial organization, and if the axe head dulls, I can sharpen it myself. However, chances are I probably can't make the steel axe in the first place)
@@Tb0n3 Nope. It's quite an American thing to know. I don't expect you to know who Chikatilo was, for example. I found out about Columbine only because Marilyn Manson was involved in the controversy. Otherwise, it would be quite a specific thing to take interest in.
You are forgetting to focus on optionally here: Yes, institutional technology is fragile, but oftentimes easier than small scale technology. You can get some timber much faster with a chainsaw than with a handsaw and a hatchet. The key is not to reduce your consumption of technology, but to be aware of its drawbacks and keep alternatives ready. There is nothing wrong with using an electric toothbrush or an electric can opener (especially for the elderly who lack strength) when one also has an analogue alternative around in case things do break down. That way, one can enjoy the benefits of technology without being dependent on it.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as AnPrim, is in fact, Unaboomer/AnPrim, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Unaboomer plus AnPrim. Anprim is not an lifestyle unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Uncle Ted philosophy..
Interesting video Luke. Hopefully in the future decentralized tech and widespread automation will help take these "X as a service" technologies away from companies and allow individuals to own the services instead.
you brushed up against this at the end of the video - what's the relationship between lindy/non-lindy and smallscale/organization-dependent? C, make, grep, awk.. have been around for a long time, and i think they'll probably be around after all the big software companies of today are dissolved
I have been looking for this video. I have been trying to articulate the points made here, and now I have the vocabulary. The issue isn’t if the world is going to fall apart, it won’t. The problem is whether your corner of it will fall apart, and that’s very possible, if not probable.
If we are talking about a collapse, it would be more realistic to think in terms of Mad Max where you should gain knowledge about how to build technological devices out of scrap and other stolen or left by things. Just imagine how much you could get out of a car wreck. So that is small scale technology when you first have access to the materials and parts that exists in abundance, especially when most (unprepared) individuals will die like flies.
If you have access to a creek, small water stream or whatever the correct name is ( sry, i don't really know the right word) you could make a tiny hydroelectric power house. In fact that's one of my favorites projects to try before you know... zombies and etc.
This is one video I don't agree with. There is something inherent in all societies, no matter how small and that is division of labor. It is the reason why we advanced where we are now. Luke, at the end, fails to realize that even a saw, or a manual can opener is not something he has the knowledge or tools to create by himself. Sure, he doesn't require electricity to use them, but the fact of the matter is that, just like when the solar panels break and you are dependent on Chinese company to make new ones, you are dependent on others to make a new saw or a new can opener. I suggest everyone who agrees with his points to read "I, Pencil" by Leonard E. Read. Aside from the economics and political parts (which only come towards the end), this small essay will put into perspective, better than I can in a comment, the importance of the division of labor. The essay, if you are a slow reader, can be read in about 15 minutes and is available for free as in both beer and freedom.
This is my first time running into this channel, and it seems interesting! I will have a look at some of your other videos. This one was probably recommended to me because I am starting to get back into Linux after a long time of Windows-only (I just installed a dual-boot of Kubuntu 19.04 on my new laptop). My Dad got a laptop off ebay for 80 quid and to my and his horror, it only had a tiny 50GB of storage, which was not even enough to allow Windows (being the resource hog that it is) to update! It is literally insecure out of the box! This must be one of those computers you mentioned where it is intended that you store everything on the cloud. I have never believed in cloud storage, except maybe for email services (which have obviously been on the cloud for far longer than that term has existed).
The most important thing with not being dependent on these things is freedom and freedom is maybe the higher known factor that boosts happiness and happiness is key in life
I've thought about this a lot and it scares the poo out of me o__o It's an uncomfortable feeling knowing that I'm so dependent on all this technology that I could never create myself if I needed to.
I felt weird during watching this video. Somekind like watching Varg, but without something I couldn't name. :) Great video, keep going with that kind of videos Luke!
It's funny because I have thought about a lot of what he said. I never knew there was the terms small scale technology and organizational scale technology. I personally don't like streaming services for music and movies, i like downloading. When these streaming services go down or offline, you'll still have a the mp3 files.
"GET OFF MY LAWN!" vlog Been pirating since the Napster days on my 56K. Not going to stop any time soon. Fuck these companies that don't let me "own" things and think they should be able to pull what I paid for on a whim.
As a computer professional, I'm often frustrated trying to explain *dis*economies of scale from complexity. It's embarrassing how often the Amish just get it right when the rest struggle with the after effects of trying to build the Tower of Babel and I'm beginning to think it's pride and not just the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Who's to say what is a natural and unnatural way of living though. Does through _nature_ evolving to communicate with a small number of nearby humans mean that method is _natural_ . If so many things today like medicine, varied diet, scientific education are things society has built by coming together can it not be seen as a historical status quo that we shouldn't necessarily feel the need to perpetuate. Mainly thinking as a devil's advocate but I shouldn't think history or nature should really be used as a comparison for us to decide what is natural or how it is _right_ for our society to interact. Edit: Rest of the points about the consequences of relying on an industrial network are worth a thought of course!
unnatural vs natural wasnt really a point though it was more focused on reliance/over-reliance on large faceless organizations(often for the sake of convenience) vs relying on yourself and neighbors/local people. Besides, medicine is the only thing you mentioned that is more dependent on large faceless organizations
I think a productive solution to this is, along with reducing our reliance on technology for our survial first and foremost, is to develop ways to turn these large scale technologies into small scale technologies. For example, the printing press made copying text possible for individuals ending their reliance on (what could be considered an organizational technology) of monastical clerics copying them by hand.
a cellar is an option for electrical refrigeration. dig into the ground where the temp is around 52 degrees and make yourself a food cave. you can also make a cheese-box, and it's usually made to be portable.
To me power generation for independence goes: Public eletric < solar electric < wind | water < solar water heating | wind water pumping && water tower < use less power Copper is smeltable, but mining it is hard, but making a generator from scratch is doable. Mechanical parts are more plentiful, but if your using steal mechanism your'e only slightly better than copper motors. Solar water heaters are super easy to do it from scratch.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername People just.. will. If you had the choice of being cast out from your community and not be given anything to the point that you starve to death because you're a greedy bastard, and sharing, what are you gonna choose? People instinctively hate greedy assholes. You'll get punished by your local community if you be a greedy asshole. No state, no hierarchy, just plain old human nature. This is literally how humans functioned for thousands of years.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername ... Then you can make your own house, build your own technology, defend your territory, make medical supplies, make your own clothes, grow your own food, slaughter your own animals, and treat your own broken bones and aneurysms, all by yourself. Good luck.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername And I said I was a free association anarchist. You can definitely go do that if you want. Not saying it's gonna turn out well for you though.
Anarchy is a meme. Every society throughout history where they have had a power vacuum has always established some power structure. Usually it's a cruel dictator. Occasionally it's a democratic Republic. But you can't live without a power structure for eternity. Ancaps and Ancoms need to learn this. This is why all the communist movements in Europe and Asia were taken over by dictators, and why we still keep hearing the "real communism hasn't been tried" meme. Real communism will never be tried because it's fundamentally impossible. The same is true for libertarianism and anarchy.
I agree with you one hundred percent, but regarding music, you can always find the sites which allows you to download music when purchasing.. That way you can have it stored locally and not depend on any streaming service, and at the same time show your appreciation for artist's talent and effort :)
was thinking earlier about how dependent we are on web services to run everything if you moved to a dead zone where you have to switch to a crappy cell plan with no data, how screwed are you?
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Telling us which high-level corporate conglomerates to reach you on in the notes of _THIS_ video. Ahh, irony... I think something Uncle Ted didn't articulate well was simply feeling like he couldn't have His Choice under His Terms. It seems childish, but... wasn't he though?
He conflated freedom with having no oversight. That just allows other free people to overpower us. It's a childish idealism. Why does Monsanto have to pay lobbying $ to be able to spray Glyphosate? Don't they already have more power than any of the individuals wishing to *stop* them? Wouldn't they already be free if not for this oversight?
Uncle Ted wasn't actually much better at thinking things through than most other people.
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I read this book before, I'm sure everyone should read this because this important, no matter what views you have.
Every ideology should be corrected to save nature
This 30 year old boomer's really sitting on his front porch rocking chair talking about technology being bad
The memes are genuinely getting to him now (as is arthritis, inevitably)
@@zelllers he's a phd candidate, if he is in his last year there is a good chance he is (almost) a 30 year old boomer
@@menapii1645 Boomers are in their 60's, he's a millennial at 30.
@@TheElexec ThatstheJoke.jpg
@@zelllers I think he was saying he's still college aged (which he is) because he's still doing his PHD
*gets electricity bill*
"When is Technology Bad for You?"
Electrons are bloat tbh
@@kunt230 Just use photons instead.
@@bjarnestronstrup9122 Positrons are much better
Just solarpanelmaxx
@@kunt230 Compile Electrons from Source
Ok, boys. Electricity is bloat.
@insaane not even that it still has size let's just have a 0 dimensional universe too save RAM
I mean... Using it for heating is.
Kinda is, you don't control it, you depend on it entirely, so you're a slave to whomever controls it , Texas should've taught people a lesson, do not depend on things you cannot produce or control, manual power is something you can produce, does not rely on the government, the state or anyone else but you, electricity on the other hand is heavily reliant on the government. Some things of course you can't do without electricity, but our usage of it should be conservative use it only for things that have no other way of being done
@@liquidsnake6879 Thats how it was in the beginning but today....
Next episode, Using the command line to organize recipes of pigments for cave paintings and war paints.
Bloating caves too nice
Hey luke's son
Only using C & ncurses.
me: electricity
Luke, an intellectual: electrical stream
Well, he's right, isn't he?
cracked me up
In Swedish the word for stream also means eletricity (ström), and in English we use the word "current" so he's not the only one to make that connection.
@@joselaw6669 yeah something like that, tho numbers are so inconvenient(big) so they just use amps.
electron river
First you move out into a house in the middle of nowhere... Now you're talking about Ted Kaczynski... I'd be surprised if you aren't on 10 FBI watchlists.
Based and Ted Pilled.
Uncle Ted: Ideas worth sharing.
More like "Uncle Ted: Ideas Worth Delivering."
@@skiz8848 Well that escalated quickly.
@@shannonm.townsend1232 Depends.
“let’s just say he manufactured some technology himself...” 😂
Just build your own fission reactor in the basement.
sucless fission reactor
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Make your wi fi run on fear, threats and willpower
"you can't go into the forest and make a refrigerator"
somebody hasn't played minecraft
you can't make a refrigerator in minecraft
@@jaffa3717 maybe you can't idk I'm just diffrent I did it anyway
@@Ashkimbo absolute chad
@@Ashkimbo what a chad
@@jaffa3717 packed ice ? Hello
Next Episodes:
- A Tribute to Uncle Ted, sending a bomb to...
- How to build a compact reactor and turbine for home use
- How to can food
Only if its RBMK... because its cheaper.
To me as a young russian that electrical can opener story is insane to me. I've never see one, why would you ever make one.
Its quicker and easier to use. That's about it.
@@Tony_Goat an electric can opener is not easier to use. It's tethered to outlet and uses power that you pay for. Better to just use your hands.
@@Tony_Goat It's quicker to use if you have weak thumbs.
@@user-og6hl6lv7p A manual can opener requires little force
@@lambda653 oh no gee golly i cant use my electric can opener out in the desert how will i live this changes everything
Keeping small vs large scale technology in mind becomes very ironic when I'm downloading a 30GB proprietary software from Xilinx to program their FPGA in the hopes of learning how to build my own 8-bit CPU in case the world ends.
House is bloat, Room with growing plants on roof is meme to go
Roofs are bloat
@@MrEdrftgyuji walls on all sides
oof
Go on a lake and it becomes a
*Housebloat*
UnaBoomers rise up..
We live in a SOCIETY
He's not a boomer, he's not in his 60s.
He's a thirty year old boomer you dork.
You deserve to be r/woosh'd by a plebbit neckbeard.
@@rchetype7029 do you even know what a boomer is?
@@unknownboi1265 we do, you clearly dont understand internet culture
@@unknownboi1265 Imagine being this new
This was the first Luke Smith video I watched, and I thought "He's nuts, I wonder if he's going to be the next unabomber"… And then after sometime I got into all the FOSS stuff and found myself right back here in Luke Smith's channel… and now, after some time, this video makes sense to me more than ever
*Boomer sits in rocking chair telling you how technology is bad for you*
Such a great video. Exactly what I was trying to explain to a friend just the other day, but it just went in one ear and out the other. It's not about doing everything yourself. It's about minimizing your dependence on others. There are times when you are going to need someone's help, that's one of the reasons we live in societies with other people. But even when you are getting help from others, you should, whenever possible, at the very lest know how to do it yourself. Don't back yourself into a corner where you've given control of something important in your life over to someone who is looking to control you and doesn't have your best interests at heart.
There is another important way to distinguish technology: technology to help you do things that cannot be done otherwise and technology to help you do things that you are simply too lazy to do. The older I get, the more I find that happiness is derived from the things you learn to create, not the luxuries that can be created for you. After all, anxiety isn't brought on by a negative situation, it's brought on by the realisation that you don't know how to better it.
Also, re: refrigeration. They used to cut ice in winter and store it under ground through summer to have non-mechanical refrigeration. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebox. So one can argue that refrigeration can be done in a small-scale technology way. Nothing stops a village from digging up a cave and filling it with ice and use it through summer.
Where i live we sometimes get scheduled electricity cuts for two hours (more if there is shortage of power on grid)
It's really sad to see how many people get mad just because they don't have WiFi or battery life on their phone, missing out on Facebook points or whatever. I work in IT, I'm self proclaimed nerd, hecc I play vidya and I'm nearly Luke's age, and two hours without power is the most refreshing thing sometimes. If the power is out all day, you cook meals with gas or wood fire, boil water in pots on flame for coffee, bathing, washing etc. You end up spending time with the people around you talking, about stuff, anything - even if it's to complain about the government and no electricity. You read a book in the sun, play boardgames at night, hecc do some exercise and spend an hour meditating to embrace the gift of consciousness in the moment - far away from all the tweets and shills and chans and memes and news and and and
South African?
@@AnonymousUser77254 Not sure about OP, but I live in Central Europe and that happens too, except it's not planned and happens for indefinite time.
For those interested in a recent critique of technology I recommend *Dmitry Orlov - Shrinking the Technosphere.* It covers Jacques Ellul and Ted Kaczynski (in Chapter 3 - Approaches and Departures). Orlov posits the Technosphere as an organism, _"an emergent intelligence that has enslaved and is destroying the biosphere - and us with it."_ It's a radical position but richly argued. He makes the distinction between good and bad technologies very crisp by providing a standard against which to rank them: the harm-benefit analysis table. This table of 32 dimensions may prove a little unwieldy, but Wendell Berry also had a set of 9 rules for technology.
Speaking of which: _The lead scientist, Rabih Bashroush, calculated that five billion downloads and streams clocked up by the song Despacito, released in 2017, consumed as much electricity as Chad, Guinea-Bissau, Somalia, Sierra Leone and the Central African Republic put together in a single year._ Let's not even mention the energy use of Bitcoin.
I bought this book a couple months ago after seeing this comment while re-watching this vid.. nice book overall, minus all the praising putin at the end
WTF Luke? Spending hours and hours of my life staring at a screen is my will and you question it????
oh no we lost him /g/
Luke, I really enjoy your content. You are the most based person on the entirety of TH-cam and are opening my eyes. I came here for Linux content but now I am reconsidering my entire lifestyle.
Don't let yourself get influenced to much by internet people, considering alternative opinions is good but be cautious
@@lendall00 i agree
i'm here to refill my empty bottle
insect sounds...BLOAT
Bee stings are a known cause of bloat
RIP UNCLE TED
REST.IN.PISS
Note that most food is organization-dependent tech.
you can easily go out into the woods and kill a deer
@@starman4840 "easily"
@@starman4840 weapons are bloated, barehands only
Most the food people consume nowadays. It hasn't been that way... well ... ever in the thousands years past??? And people were rather safely reliant on that
Most yes. But millet grows in my back yard without me even doing anything.
If you want tropical fruits in winter, then yes that is organizational.
I really enjoy your format, talking in front of your camera and without cut. I'm really impress by your work. Keep it up.
lots of love from france
edit : you also bring me to the linux world and this is epic
GNU+Linux
Serious stuff and bitter truth. Everybody needs to reconsider their though on new technology and identify whether it is using them or whether they are it.
Agreed
I just want a machine that works, I don’t need a toaster to have a damn microphone listening and selling data about me “FoR tHe ExPeRiEnCe”
I wonder if this could be mapped like dependency tree?
Then you could map all of your dependencies for your distro, i mean
life, and see what things are essential for the various run levels.
You can, this already exists
@@Phasma6969 You're gonna have to catch me up to speed, this was two years ago
@@Waitwhat469 i was retarded enough to comment on a 2 year old comment
When are you going to set up a mesh WiFi network for your local community - or put an Amateur Radio antenna on that radio mast?
A real Ted talk.
11:04 "Thirty-year-old linguistic student found dead in his cabin in the woods. Early findings suggest a severe case of botulism likely stemming from his consumption of self-made, non-refrigerated foods found onsite."
I wish I had more alternatives for entertainment because I swear the internet is draining my soul
Where's the let's find out? You need to do it now daddy varg is gone
Cats are bloat
Nice voice crack at 3:45
Luke, I have agreed with your approach, a conclusion I have reached on my own and have been pondering for quite some time. Regarding media, I have valued having my own copies of music, movies, books etc ever since finding and using records and CDs as a young teenager. It's funny, I wanted to give my best friend's sister a birthday present a CD (she's in high school) and she said she has no way to play it. That incident shows you the generation gap. I don't dislike or envy any of the younger kids, but I do think it's funny how much a 10-year difference makes - I grew up with physical media and I'm sticking with it, while nowadays such is eschewed. (I found records and was reviving them, even as my parents were not interested.)
I bought an iPhone to store my music on it, but then I discovered my library is way bigger than my iPhone 128 GB storage. So I have resorted to finding (that was a task in itself) old iPods - the classics, with click wheels. Then I have modded them with SD boards from iflash.xyz. Even though that process is sort of organizational-dependent, I feel that I have a good understanding of the iPod design and can repair them if something breaks. So that works for me.
Similarly, I find streaming not conducive for me, as it is easier for me to pull up a song on my iPod than to find it on Spotify/TH-cam etc. The same applies to films. It might be relatively easy to find a song on TH-cam, but finding a way to stream a given movie (e.g., you want to see title X) is almost Herculean to navigate, as the plurality of streaming services and rights obscures finding the movie itself. I think it would be fun to make a video between me and one of the youths, where we are given some song titles and movie titles and whoever can bring them up first (CD/DVD or streaming or whatever) wins. Ciao
You can’t grep or awk small scale technology.
3:45 I love that voice crack :D
made my day
"In next weeks Linux tutorial, I'm going to show you how to make your own movies and tv shows in your backyard. Stop relying on others for your entertainment."
Spotify is great as a musician. I can get various takes on jazz standards whenever. Makes studying faster
As a musician I think you can still buy the music you want to listen to. Apart from that this really made me think, in my job I'd love to use open source software but it's still lacking too many functionalities I need.. Something seems to slowly changing though
Mhm, so no electricity dependency then. As an alternative to mains and solar, wind makes you dependent on wind and other stuff. Yeah, it's a dependency hell in real life. Luke is parsing the dependencies in his life hahah
I hate the fact that I'm so reliant on 'organisation dependent technology'. I don't hate technology; I'm not a luddite. I love it and want to work in IT, but I hate what it already does to us and could do. Maybe it's just my irrational fear of a future transhumanistic overregulated smart city society that could be a direct result of this tech boom.
Anyway I feel like if things did hit the fan, me, my family and my friends would be among the first to go down since we're already so reliant on physical 'organisation dependent technology'.
Even digitally, most of what I use I couldn't make it myself. A computer, a compiler, an IDE or maybe analog things. I can freak myself out with those thoughts for days on end.. It's the yearning of wanting to know everything about anything and wanting to reinvent the wheel for everything and it's an itch I can't scratch. I want to be self-reliant and sufficient, digitally and irl. I'm just thinking out loud.
The Amish had a lot right
Left turn at albuquerque Marrying a non-relative is bloat
There should be an in-between scale where you have to source technology from massive organizations, but are not dependent on them for continued use. For example, solar panels, once you have then, they continue to function independent of the massive global system that produced them. As opposed to grid power, which does not function at all independent of large organization.
I was thinking that a similar in between level also exists. While I think that solar panels are still organization dependent (they can't be easily repaired without technologically advanced spare parts), I was thinking of something like metal hand tools. You can't really produce good alloy steels without either a lot of luck or an advanced metallurgy industry, not to mention the need for huge amounts of labor to collect enough ore. However, most people could keep their metal handtools maintained, and can do a moderate amount of repairs without technologically advanced spare parts. (For instance, if I have a nice steel axe and the handle breaks, I can probably fix that without an industrial organization, and if the axe head dulls, I can sharpen it myself. However, chances are I probably can't make the steel axe in the first place)
Theodore Ka-CHI-nsky.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
pretty interesting thoughts. came for the vim tutorials, stayed for the philosophical discourse. well done.
Organization technlogy is the new Proprietary bloatware
Opening cans with a knife is the chad way
Just looked him up.
The word "Unaboomer" makes much more sense now.
You didn't know who the Unabomber was?
@@Tb0n3
Nope. It's quite an American thing to know. I don't expect you to know who Chikatilo was, for example.
I found out about Columbine only because Marilyn Manson was involved in the controversy. Otherwise, it would be quite a specific thing to take interest in.
You are forgetting to focus on optionally here: Yes, institutional technology is fragile, but oftentimes easier than small scale technology. You can get some timber much faster with a chainsaw than with a handsaw and a hatchet. The key is not to reduce your consumption of technology, but to be aware of its drawbacks and keep alternatives ready. There is nothing wrong with using an electric toothbrush or an electric can opener (especially for the elderly who lack strength) when one also has an analogue alternative around in case things do break down. That way, one can enjoy the benefits of technology without being dependent on it.
Imagine they had wooden backup twintowers
"Even Uncle Ted, he engineered some technology"...uhh, yeeeeaaah.. you could say that..... A bit of an industrial boom of his own, as it were.
Luke is going to live in the Middle Age. Damn
In today's episode of "Closet AnPrims"...
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as AnPrim, is in fact, Unaboomer/AnPrim, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Unaboomer plus AnPrim. Anprim is not an lifestyle unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Uncle Ted philosophy..
@@radomane Did you just GNU/Linux me? I wasn't ready for this kind of hostility... I need my safe space...
I want a one hour video of you doing boomer lawn mowing - not a timelapse, just in real-time.
LMAO!
Interesting video Luke. Hopefully in the future decentralized tech and widespread automation will help take these "X as a service" technologies away from companies and allow individuals to own the services instead.
*smugly chuckles*
"Industrial Society And Its Future" *gen z memes intensifies*
you brushed up against this at the end of the video - what's the relationship between lindy/non-lindy and smallscale/organization-dependent?
C, make, grep, awk.. have been around for a long time, and i think they'll probably be around after all the big software companies of today are dissolved
My fridge keeps all my Monster cans fresh...sip.
Your underlying theme is a great point! Great video :)
I have been looking for this video. I have been trying to articulate the points made here, and now I have the vocabulary.
The issue isn’t if the world is going to fall apart, it won’t. The problem is whether your corner of it will fall apart, and that’s very possible, if not probable.
If we are talking about a collapse, it would be more realistic to think in terms of Mad Max where you should gain knowledge about how to build technological devices out of scrap and other stolen or left by things. Just imagine how much you could get out of a car wreck. So that is small scale technology when you first have access to the materials and parts that exists in abundance, especially when most (unprepared) individuals will die like flies.
He then followed up with "Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How"
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If you have access to a creek, small water stream or whatever the correct name is ( sry, i don't really know the right word) you could make a tiny hydroelectric power house. In fact that's one of my favorites projects to try before you know... zombies and etc.
This is one video I don't agree with. There is something inherent in all societies, no matter how small and that is division of labor. It is the reason why we advanced where we are now. Luke, at the end, fails to realize that even a saw, or a manual can opener is not something he has the knowledge or tools to create by himself. Sure, he doesn't require electricity to use them, but the fact of the matter is that, just like when the solar panels break and you are dependent on Chinese company to make new ones, you are dependent on others to make a new saw or a new can opener. I suggest everyone who agrees with his points to read "I, Pencil" by Leonard E. Read. Aside from the economics and political parts (which only come towards the end), this small essay will put into perspective, better than I can in a comment, the importance of the division of labor. The essay, if you are a slow reader, can be read in about 15 minutes and is available for free as in both beer and freedom.
"Now I'm not saying that the world is going to collapse..."
*Checks video upload date
HMMMMMMMMMMM......
This is my first time running into this channel, and it seems interesting! I will have a look at some of your other videos. This one was probably recommended to me because I am starting to get back into Linux after a long time of Windows-only (I just installed a dual-boot of Kubuntu 19.04 on my new laptop).
My Dad got a laptop off ebay for 80 quid and to my and his horror, it only had a tiny 50GB of storage, which was not even enough to allow Windows (being the resource hog that it is) to update! It is literally insecure out of the box!
This must be one of those computers you mentioned where it is intended that you store everything on the cloud. I have never believed in cloud storage, except maybe for email services (which have obviously been on the cloud for far longer than that term has existed).
"Chromebooks" are even worse, usually 32GB sometimes 16GB soldered in
The most important thing with not being dependent on these things is freedom and freedom is maybe the higher known factor that boosts happiness and happiness is key in life
I've thought about this a lot and it scares the poo out of me o__o It's an uncomfortable feeling knowing that I'm so dependent on all this technology that I could never create myself if I needed to.
I felt weird during watching this video. Somekind like watching Varg, but without something I couldn't name. :)
Great video, keep going with that kind of videos Luke!
And that's why roads are bad.
If you are too lazy to read and want to use Organization dependent technology, there is an audio version of it here on youtube
Oh boy, smart, cloud connected, fridges.
It's funny because I have thought about a lot of what he said. I never knew there was the terms small scale technology and organizational scale technology. I personally don't like streaming services for music and movies, i like downloading. When these streaming services go down or offline, you'll still have a the mp3 files.
"GET OFF MY LAWN!" vlog
Been pirating since the Napster days on my 56K. Not going to stop any time soon. Fuck these companies that don't let me "own" things and think they should be able to pull what I paid for on a whim.
An important thing to know is that nowdays a lot of solar panels will refuse to work unless your house is plugged into power grid
As a computer professional, I'm often frustrated trying to explain *dis*economies of scale from complexity. It's embarrassing how often the Amish just get it right when the rest struggle with the after effects of trying to build the Tower of Babel and I'm beginning to think it's pride and not just the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Got a non electrical can opener, life changed!!!
3:45 nice voice crack :^)
Who's to say what is a natural and unnatural way of living though. Does through _nature_ evolving to communicate with a small number of nearby humans mean that method is _natural_ . If so many things today like medicine, varied diet, scientific education are things society has built by coming together can it not be seen as a historical status quo that we shouldn't necessarily feel the need to perpetuate.
Mainly thinking as a devil's advocate but I shouldn't think history or nature should really be used as a comparison for us to decide what is natural or how it is _right_ for our society to interact.
Edit: Rest of the points about the consequences of relying on an industrial network are worth a thought of course!
unnatural vs natural wasnt really a point though it was more focused on reliance/over-reliance on large faceless organizations(often for the sake of convenience) vs relying on yourself and neighbors/local people. Besides, medicine is the only thing you mentioned that is more dependent on large faceless organizations
Hell, google is pushing for streaming games, a technology that needs more overhead than Netflix.
I think a productive solution to this is, along with reducing our reliance on technology for our survial first and foremost, is to develop ways to turn these large scale technologies into small scale technologies. For example, the printing press made copying text possible for individuals ending their reliance on (what could be considered an organizational technology) of monastical clerics copying them by hand.
a cellar is an option for electrical refrigeration. dig into the ground where the temp is around 52 degrees and make yourself a food cave.
you can also make a cheese-box, and it's usually made to be portable.
To me power generation for independence goes:
Public eletric < solar electric < wind | water < solar water heating | wind water pumping && water tower < use less power
Copper is smeltable, but mining it is hard, but making a generator from scratch is doable.
Mechanical parts are more plentiful, but if your using steal mechanism your'e only slightly better than copper motors.
Solar water heaters are super easy to do it from scratch.
"Chairs don't grow on trees."
Technology: "Is that a challenge?"
“Even uncle Ted, let’s just say he manufactured some technology himself.”
Omfg
This comment did not age well 5:11
RISC-V is kind of a mix, then. Open source design, but only some guy in Shenzen can turn it into a usable object.
I use the Google drive accounts from 2 schools I studied at, if supposedly one (which is unlimited/privately hosted) was deletes, that'd make me sad
"because you just don't have control over what is happening in your life"
Oh boy if only this man knew about anarcho-communism.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername > Enforcing
No. I'm a free association anarchist. I don't enforce shit.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername People just.. will. If you had the choice of being cast out from your community and not be given anything to the point that you starve to death because you're a greedy bastard, and sharing, what are you gonna choose?
People instinctively hate greedy assholes. You'll get punished by your local community if you be a greedy asshole. No state, no hierarchy, just plain old human nature. This is literally how humans functioned for thousands of years.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername ... Then you can make your own house, build your own technology, defend your territory, make medical supplies, make your own clothes, grow your own food, slaughter your own animals, and treat your own broken bones and aneurysms, all by yourself.
Good luck.
@@1d10tcannotmakeusername And I said I was a free association anarchist. You can definitely go do that if you want. Not saying it's gonna turn out well for you though.
Anarchy is a meme. Every society throughout history where they have had a power vacuum has always established some power structure. Usually it's a cruel dictator. Occasionally it's a democratic Republic. But you can't live without a power structure for eternity. Ancaps and Ancoms need to learn this. This is why all the communist movements in Europe and Asia were taken over by dictators, and why we still keep hearing the "real communism hasn't been tried" meme. Real communism will never be tried because it's fundamentally impossible. The same is true for libertarianism and anarchy.
Internet connected fridges are the definition of bloat
in the scenario fridges disappear there will be much much bigger problems
Isn't it kind of weird to mainly use free software and speak about digital ownership while uploading to youtube?
I agree with you one hundred percent, but regarding music, you can always find the sites which allows you to download music when purchasing.. That way you can have it stored locally and not depend on any streaming service, and at the same time show your appreciation for artist's talent and effort :)
was thinking earlier about how dependent we are on web services to run everything
if you moved to a dead zone where you have to switch to a crappy cell plan with no data, how screwed are you?