As a good manager, you deserve 10% of that 10%. As an accountant, I deserve 5% of your ten percent. I accept venmo, and I look forward to receiving that ninety cents.
If a 200 billion dollar company is threatened by a few people making jokes about their products, then maybe the products are the problem, not the jokes.
@@FIDreams Yes, they all are, but Disney assembled a vast library of legendary IPs and then they took a giant DEI crap on them. Take a crap on TJ Hooker and even Bill Shatner will have a jiggle. Choosing to turn a 70 year old intellectual property beloved by generations into a lecture series on the evils of white males doesn't sit well with a last audience that looked forward to every new comic while scrounging the small change to pay for it.
So Disney is blaming 2 TH-camrs for having so much POWER that they can drive MILLIONS of Viewers from watching a Show? Sounds like Disney needs to have THEIR Sales and Marketing team fired.
Leslye Headland has stated in interviews exactly WHY this show sucks so bad....She didn't make it for the fans. She didn't make it to be a part of the world George Lucas created. She made it for HERSELF. This was the Star Wars the SHE wanted to see. [That is like buying everyone a bowling ball for Christmas because YOU are REALLY into bowling and then wondering why everyone hates your gift.]
But she didn't just make a movie she wanted to see. She made it out of hatred for people. She has an axe to grind with straight white men. It's politically motivated.
You buy your friends bowling balls and declare that you guys don't do enough bowling. You declare the next group activity to be a bowling night (they will be paying since you got the balls), and that the group should come out to support real bowlers like yourself who are too often marginalized from activities. Nobody shows up. Other people in the group pointed out that, because of your attitude, nobody will show up. You declare that these people are anti-bowling bigots who purposely worked to sabotage your evening with criticism in order to tear down innocent bowlers like yourself. You finish your declarations only to realize that everyone in your group has muted you and left the chat
Even that's being too nice because if your friends get you, they'd understand why you did that. They'd see that as your 'thing'. This is like buying a bowling ball and hoping they return it to you so you can tell others they were being selfish for not accepting your gift AND keep the ball because you actually wanted it for yourself.
Pathetic really. Rather like the faux Doomcock on She-Hulk. As Paul Chato points out here, their influence on people not already massively hacked off by such shows is close to zero. By a remarkable coincidence, zero is the exact same number of viewers that She-Hulk and Acolyte got.
The funniest part (to me) about an organization like Disney blaming two popular TH-cam personalities for _The AcoSHYTE_ (or any of the other recent bombs) tanking is that by making that claim, they are admitting that two popular TH-cam personalities are better at marketing their products/ideas than a multi-billion dollar a year entertainment giant. If your multi-million dollar marketing campaigns can be completely undone by two dudes making videos in their basements, your problem(s) have absolutely nothing to do with two dudes making videos in their basements... Yes, I'm aware Gary and Drinker have dedicated areas in their homes to make videos, and those areas aren't necessarily in their basements.
Exactly. And their combined sub count is less than 5 million, with a combined view count of per video per day being less than 1 million. Against a multi-billion dollar company. Their show wasn't just weak, it should be treated as a case study for generations to come why you don't "make tv shows for yourself" as a director while at the same time deliberately butchering it because you hate the fans, like they said they did and do. It should be treated as a crime against humanity.
True. In the great days of Star Wars, their fanbase was loyal, worldwide, and strong; critics were, and could be, safely ignored. Woke Disney therefore admits, unwittingly, that it is out of touch with fans.
And by blaming them, Disney unwillingly admits that those mercenaries that gave 85% "critic" score to The Acolyte actually do not have any credibility whatsoever.
Discovered Nerdrotic during Comicsgate. Discovered Drinker around the time of Captain Marvel. Now I can delight that I have discovered Chato to go with the Ejacolyte. There will always be good, creative souls to call out the nihilistic anti-capitalist destructionist bullshit flooding the entertainment industry! Thanks for the hard work.
@@jeremygilby1455 I'll have to work on that - definitely would not like to have been somehow responsible for subscribing to Carl Benjamin and precipitating Comicsgate as a result.
Thank you. As a nerd and geek that has been raised under the 10th anniversary edition Star Wars and huge LOTR fan, I saw both my passions being crapped on by people, its tiring. People like them just want to tell what no one wants to hear, and therefore, they force it on us through things they know we like. In turn, they shit on the medium. Just leave the mediums be.
As a fan of classic Star Trek, the 5 act structure imposed by an hour of broadcast television with commercials made for compelling television. You had the short teaser at the beginning to grab you, then all the mini cliffhangers at the end of each act with a resolution at the very end. Cynically this structure was there to get you to watch the ads and come back for the next ad, but now that I have everything on disc without the commercials it’s an objectively a good way to tell a story. Something interesting MUST happen every 8 minutes or so. Art always needs some limitations to be great, some constraint.
Also, where appropriate, alternate between an A & B storyline: to keep interest, provide tension or comic relief, use more of the cast of characters (and maybe use one plot for longer-arc character development), or even set up for an ending that combines the two threads in an unexpected conclusion.
Why haven't we seen studios make shows to air on TV, but then have a few of those cut scenes, a bit of extra content available on their exclusive streaming network? - They'd get content for their monetizable networks, - They'd get a bigger audience for the show, and - They'd have new demand for their streaming network to see the extra parts missed on TV. The model is the same as all those director's cut and unrated versions of movies. People paid to see them once, then the extra content at minimal cost pulls in their cash a second time. Likewise, remember all that great content that used to be on DVDs? The making of documentaries, the commentary tracks, the behind the scenes, outtakes, cut scenes, etc.--why aren't studios filling their streaming service with all those goodies? And then there's the Disney Vault--you could only get certain movies at certain times, and the constrained supply created demand. Why isn't Disney pulling a lot of content off perpetual hosting on D- and making 'special events' each month where certain classics and other specials can be watched during a limited release of two months only. It would people talking about what would be available coming up, and create perpetual incentives to start service or not cancel--i.e., you wouldn't be able to binge all you want in one month and cancel.
If regressive, anti-capitalist, anti-free-market, woke-bots were capable of that level of thought and understanding, they wouldn't be regressive, anti-capitalist, anti-free-market, woke-bots...
Drinker and Nerdrotic deserve all the success they are getting. They're two of the best pop culture critics out there. Their comments are always intelligent and entertaining. As it's said, you catch the flak as you get over the target.
@@rocoe9019 They are rated by their subscribers, so if anything, they are 'overrated' by how much power is being projected on them to have the influence to actually take a multi-million dollar show from a multi-billion dollar company down. I personally don't follow/watch Nerdrotic much, but The Critical Drinker has been around for years now, so no... not a one trick pony... you can also reference his older reviews to see that he's not a 'one trick pony', and to also see the evolving frustration with Disney Star Wars as well as other drivel modern Hollywood has been releasing... at the same time, you also see him praising well written, acted, and directed films as well.
"your legacy will amount to less than the sum total of Pauly Shore and Sarah Silverman" is about the most vicious burn I have ever heard. That is... just... Chef's Kiss. Well done sir, take a bow, you have won the Internet this day.
Remember they hired lawyers to get after South Park! And still went home with their tails between their legs. I guess they think these guys don’t have as much money to lawyer up as South Park?
Sadly no. I really enjoyed the first three movies as a kid, and it's painful to see the garbage it's all been turned into. I want us to get to total apathy as soon as possible so I don't have to hear about it at all anymore.
Yes, stopped caring. That's what people do. I would like to watch good Star Wars, but I am not entitled to it. This whole back and forth is just so childish and lame. And both sides don't have anything meaningful to add.
Just like Enron. The company goes under, gets "free" funds, and the CEOs and CFOs make out like bandits. Dayum the fans, they got theirs. The epitome of "get that bag queen" that so many pretend is some laudable ethical stance.
It's the exact type of cronyism lefties claim to despise about capitalism, but they seem to have this severe mental block where they cannot bring themselves to criticize any corporation that pays lip service to The Message.
So 2 TH-cam commentors were able to take down Disney? They must be mighty powerful individuals to destroy the Goliath that was Disney! I remember when other giant studios tried to vanquish the juggernaut that was Disney. Disney laughed at those other studios for even trying. But in the end, all it took were 2 TH-cam commentors to destroy the mighty Disney. Is that what Kathleen Kennedy is trying to tell us?
Yep. And she's too stup1d to even grasp what that means...Because if her work can be completely destroyed by two TH-camrs, those two TH-camrs are the absolute _least_ of her problems.
Restrictions often improve art. Poetic forms that require meter and rhyme force the poet to work harder. This often makes for better results than free verse. Making a compelling story for broadcast where you can't just drop you pants, often literally, is harder and forces creative writing. Often the worst things you get from an artist are when they are successful enough to demand "creative control".
In a family of four. Only I have heard of either of them. The only Star Wars show anyone has watched more than one episode of is the Mandalorian (we might possibly have watched 2 episodes of Boba Fett ?). That is now down to zero.
Honestly... When I watched both I was still watching D+, I stopped watching them almost simultaneously because I wasn't going to support prime for RoP and get D+ pretty much free by comparison.
I still don't understand why there aren't shareholder lawsuits. Disney has lost at least 10 billion in potential revenue on Lucasfilm and the stock has tanked.
I sold my shares some time ago. It wasn't a lot, but I made a few bucks. It's possible that those who still own, think the same as those in charge of creative.
Its amazing to consider that 2 guys who sit behind a camera in their homes and talk are the ones who took down this multi-million-billion-whatever $ movie studio. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is truly amazing that Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker can influence seven billion humans to ignore Disney's trash. I am impressed. Much respect to them.
I’m always grateful for your perspective! possibly my favourite American sitcom of all time is “Frasier.” When I purchased the DVDs, it was the first time I had seen entire episodes intact without breaks, which made it much easier to appreciate the set up and nuances etc. As for the mini cliffhangers, I am immediately reminded of Star Trek: tng when the camera would zoom in on Picard frowning while ominous music plays. Watching those episodes on DVD, the mini cliffhangers are kind of quaintly unnecessary. But during the original broadcast, they were very effective. Thank you very much for the video! 🙏🎯😁
In the original novel, it’s made very clear that the flying monkeys are no better than slaves and they’re relatively innocent. Here, they’re volunteering to hurt people they disagree with.
@@markiangooley not volunteering, thay are paid for (the big media it is, shills are shills for free) But the studio emploiees are another story. Here in Brazil, TV studios forced theyr emploiees to engage on social media, under threath of dismissal and blacklisting them from the media business. They even had to create some false Facebook and Twitter accounts to boost the studio's narratives with pre-set dicourse and false engagement numbers, if they wanted to keep theyr jobs, or have a chance of new oppportunities on the industry ever again. BTW, I'm paraphrasing an interview with an former actor that witnessed it all. Do not tell me that Un-hollywoke would be any different
People who refuse to listen to criticism will never grow or hone any craft. If someone's ego is so big that they refuse to listen to any criticism, constructive or not, they will never learn from their mistakes. That is why some writers today keep writing badly developed stories and characters. In their minds, they are never wrong. In their minds only those who they disagree with politically are the ones whom dislike their work. It is one of the traps of their ideology. To them only the morally virtuous support them and the immoral disagree with them. It is easier to discard the opinions of those they deem immoral. I really do believe a lot of it is their own arrogance, the social media bubbles they are in and their ideology. As BIll Burr said, many people today really need to 'step out of their comfort zone and expand their circle of friends to realize that not everyone thinks the way they do'. Even people who agree with you on one thing will often disagree with you on another. Debate and discussion with those we disagree with gives a chance for all parties involved to learn and grow. As a writer that is very important, in my opinion. I think people will be more successful writing what they know the more they know. Even if you agree to disagree you know a perspective exists outside of your own and hopefully come to at least understand why that perspective may exist in the first place.
Out of curiosity, the next Star Wars project, how do you think that’ll be received?? Disney and it’s mafia has labeled, libeled, slandered, insulted, lied, and attacked the former fan base. Seems like any goodwill that there was left with Gina carrano. The force isn’t female, the force is fallow
Oppressed rich black girl magic. btw, the r-worded rap song was a deliberate honey trap to get channels Disney doesn't like struck with a false DMCA if they played it. The real targets didn't take the bait.
Remember these are the same people that dreamed up #ThemToo and used it to remove people like John Lasseter and many others on trumped up charges. It has been a downward spiral ever since.
Well said, Paul, you always have an eloquent way of laying things out. BTW, I stumbled across a meme on youtube recently that offers a great, functional definition of stupidity. "Refusal to know the obvious, as in it's obvious no one is buying their razist, homofobe, misogionist review bombing narrative, yet they keep crying about this particular wolf.
You are correct. The broadcast audience does not watch YT. The broadcast audience is mostly Boomers watching their cop serials. I know, my parents are them. They love Blue Bloods. Star Wars left their world when Disney decided to stop releasing films in theaters and put their new shows on streaming.
Yep. Nice simple stuff (as a Boomer). In the UK probably the most popular cop serial is the most lightweight which is now in four franchises, the main two are Death in Paradise (Season 14 and 2 spin offs) and Midsomer Murders (now in Series 23), they're fairly lightweight very straightforward shows (despite the murders). All the gritty tough dramas populated by strong women and ethnic characters who are all good and white people who are all bad (it is that unsubtle), they don't get beyond Season 1 often. This apparently doesn't seem to get through to the people who make TV. The shows they want to make sink without trace. The ones they are basically forced to make because there'd be riots if they were cancelled go on forever. Nobody cares about ethnicity (Death in Paradise is set in the Caribbean, so most of the cast is black anyway). What they object to is it being pushed at gunpoint.
Great move Disney, name the channels of 2 guys who are calling you out so all the disney fans can go and see the truth. Genius. Its amazing what fear and panic does to people.
I was laughing (audibly) at the end of Rise of Skywalker. I was trying to work out as if it was the exact same script as Episode VI or just the same plot.
Thanks to your explanation of cutting episodes to strict lengths I finally get why a joke was cut from the pilot of Frasier. Niles is looking at brochures of rest homes and says “Golden Acres. We care so you don’t have to.” In the DVD release Frasier asks “it says that?” And Niles responds “It might as well.”
I remember people had massive criticism for _Titanic_ , but it still sold out. If the product is good, people ignore the critics. If the product is bad, critics are the only people who bother to see it.
Even bad things are loved by the audience, if they appeal to their basic instincts, if they show s*x and violence and the lone wolf taking revenge or something like that. It should just not be boring.
We’re all painfully aware of it by now… This is not entertainment. It’s messaging, and it’s political. Propaganda 101: Propaganda doesn’t work once the audience realizes it’s propaganda.
Yup, all this has achieved has been a marketing win for TH-cam, a direct competitor to streaming platforms, and Drinker and Nerdrotic as content producers.
Good point about mini-cliffhangers and commercial breaks. I'd imagine showrunners and advertisers hashed out early on what most effectively kept audience's attention and sold the most products.
You do make an excellent point about how the restrictions that constrained commercial television writers in the past made for more disciplined, and thus better, writing. I think of some of the timeless shows of the classic TV era, where you literally wanted every member of the family to like something about your show, or at least to not be scandalized by it. Even adult themes can be presented in a way that goes right past the kids but hits adults right in the gut. The irony of streaming whatever length they want on the one hand, and now the routine R-rated television where there are no restrictions on content, has reduced the art to not even a pale reflection of what it once was. Now that activists like LH can just blow through a billion dollars and throw any crap on the screen they want, and insult not only your values, but your intelligence in the process, leads me to think we've entered the Dark Ages of American entertainment.
This was my first exposure to you and your style. I'm sold, I subscribed! I have watched Her critic and Critical Drinker for two to three years because I respect their point of view and how they support their arguments. I see a similar ability with you, hence my subscription. I appreciate your member berries of tinsel town greats and industrial heavyweights, no need to Google here. Looking forward to the next installment and checking out your past library of vids. Grazie!
Like haters have to hate, flying monkeys have to fly, Chato! I'm glad that Dr. Who is only on Disney Plus these days. If it was still on the ABC (that's the Australian Broadcasting Corporation) or available on DVD, it would have broken my heart according to AZ and Gary. Who's judgement I trust, by the way. It was our generation of Dr. Who fans that kept the show on life support during its long 18-year hiatus. It was us, not those new breed of Whovians who bought the VHS cassettes, the DVDs, the books, the magazines, and went to all those cheesy overpriced conventions. We had skin in this game. Only now to be told not to watch but go out and touch some grass. So I would like to thank Disney and the BBC for inadvertently doing true fans an enormous favour by limiting the damage to this streaming contrivance. It's so much better to remain ignorant than ruining a lifetime of happy memories!
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The blaming of one
The blaming of two
The blaming of maaaannnyyyy
lol
Top comment, hands down.
You win teh interwebz in this comment section.
this needs the pin of cool.
😂🤣
If Nerdrotic and Drinker are responsible for marketing, they deserve at least 10% of that $180M Acolyte budget.
As a good manager, you deserve 10% of that 10%.
As an accountant, I deserve 5% of your ten percent. I accept venmo, and I look forward to receiving that ninety cents.
If a 200 billion dollar company is threatened by a few people making jokes about their products, then maybe the products are the problem, not the jokes.
Thats not how it works nowadays
I can’t wait for things to go back when this rot burns itself out
or the producers are the problem, mainly their inability to accept constructive criticism
Que the Principal Skinner meme where the children are out of touch, not Skinner.
From the words of Waffen-SS Howser:
"It's afraid.."
If Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic are at fault for this disaster I wholeheartedly applaud and support both of them 100%. Nice going gents 👏 👏 👏
Yes, if that’s true then keep going please.
Disney sucks. No amount of blame and virtue signaling will change this fact.
You do know it's not just Disney right?
All studios are guilty of this, Disney is just a Big target that's all. Lol
Bob Iger is a genius. He’s sinking Disney with Woke so he can make a fortune shorting the stock!
@@FIDreams Yes, they all are, but Disney assembled a vast library of legendary IPs and then they took a giant DEI crap on them. Take a crap on TJ Hooker and even Bill Shatner will have a jiggle. Choosing to turn a 70 year old intellectual property beloved by generations into a lecture series on the evils of white males doesn't sit well with a last audience that looked forward to every new comic while scrounging the small change to pay for it.
Yet some shills are still defending disney.😂😂
@@johnf4680 If you say it enough do you get to sleep with a princess or get more pixie dust?
So Disney is blaming 2 TH-camrs for having so much POWER that they can drive MILLIONS of Viewers from watching a Show?
Sounds like Disney needs to have THEIR Sales and Marketing team fired.
Leslye Headland has stated in interviews exactly WHY this show sucks so bad....She didn't make it for the fans. She didn't make it to be a part of the world George Lucas created. She made it for HERSELF. This was the Star Wars the SHE wanted to see. [That is like buying everyone a bowling ball for Christmas because YOU are REALLY into bowling and then wondering why everyone hates your gift.]
That is perfect...wow
I am.stealing this
But she didn't just make a movie she wanted to see. She made it out of hatred for people. She has an axe to grind with straight white men. It's politically motivated.
You buy your friends bowling balls and declare that you guys don't do enough bowling. You declare the next group activity to be a bowling night (they will be paying since you got the balls), and that the group should come out to support real bowlers like yourself who are too often marginalized from activities.
Nobody shows up. Other people in the group pointed out that, because of your attitude, nobody will show up. You declare that these people are anti-bowling bigots who purposely worked to sabotage your evening with criticism in order to tear down innocent bowlers like yourself.
You finish your declarations only to realize that everyone in your group has muted you and left the chat
Even that's being too nice because if your friends get you, they'd understand why you did that. They'd see that as your 'thing'.
This is like buying a bowling ball and hoping they return it to you so you can tell others they were being selfish for not accepting your gift AND keep the ball because you actually wanted it for yourself.
Brilliant
Chato is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
That's what she said. :D
Well said!
I see what you did there...and back again.
Nerdrotic and The Critical Drinker; the perfect scapegoats for the high and mighty Disney who refuses to self reflect.
Ego and hubris indeed!
Sheer fucking hubris!
Pride goes before the fall
Pathetic really. Rather like the faux Doomcock on She-Hulk. As Paul Chato points out here, their influence on people not already massively hacked off by such shows is close to zero.
By a remarkable coincidence, zero is the exact same number of viewers that She-Hulk and Acolyte got.
@@paulscottrobson They are "like minds", not "influencers". If they were the latter they'd be on the Disney payroll.
The funniest part (to me) about an organization like Disney blaming two popular TH-cam personalities for _The AcoSHYTE_ (or any of the other recent bombs) tanking is that by making that claim, they are admitting that two popular TH-cam personalities are better at marketing their products/ideas than a multi-billion dollar a year entertainment giant. If your multi-million dollar marketing campaigns can be completely undone by two dudes making videos in their basements, your problem(s) have absolutely nothing to do with two dudes making videos in their basements...
Yes, I'm aware Gary and Drinker have dedicated areas in their homes to make videos, and those areas aren't necessarily in their basements.
The fact they blame a pair of TH-camrs shows how piss weak the show is
Oh, you have No Idea. It's bad. It's not the lgb-blah blah propaganda. They just up and decided to make the worst series ever.
Exactly. And their combined sub count is less than 5 million, with a combined view count of per video per day being less than 1 million. Against a multi-billion dollar company. Their show wasn't just weak, it should be treated as a case study for generations to come why you don't "make tv shows for yourself" as a director while at the same time deliberately butchering it because you hate the fans, like they said they did and do. It should be treated as a crime against humanity.
True. In the great days of Star Wars, their fanbase was loyal, worldwide, and strong; critics were, and could be, safely ignored.
Woke Disney therefore admits, unwittingly, that it is out of touch with fans.
Nerdrotic and Drinker must have some strong space lesbian witch energy.
Yes, but only while they identify as women.
@@SPR-bk3tf Space Lesbian Energy Witches
~beware the SLEWs
And by blaming them, Disney unwillingly admits that those mercenaries that gave 85% "critic" score to The Acolyte actually do not have any credibility whatsoever.
@@SPR-bk3tf So I can't use the same words (in a different order) about space witches without my comment being removed?
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It’s the beards. Definitely.
Those 2 men are doing Gods work. We can fight back against these mega corporations and win.
Two TH-cam creators were able to destroy the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world. Wow!
They are destroying themselves. TH-cam is just bringing attention to it.
Just like anakin was able to destroy deathstar, or something
THEY MUST BE GIVEN THE "BUD LIGHT" TREATMENT
Yep. They've wiped billions of dollars off Disney stock
Wow wow wow....... WOW
If I were a Disney stockholder, I'd be mad as hell and demanding some answers.
I'm far more entertained by the fall of disney than any TV show
THEY MUST BE GIVEN THE "BUD LIGHT" TREATMENT
It's not that good. I've been watching Attack on Titan.
It's really quite amazing to watch one of the largest and most respected entertainment giants piss it all away over incredibly petty horseshit.
@@Adamant_Consternation I never respected Disney. Marvel was so mediocre. It was so dumbed down for the lowest common denominator.
😆 LOL 😆!
I didn’t need those two gentlemen to convince me that Disney is trash. I was smart enough to figure that out all by myself.
Right I was upset about the new movies and shows before I even found them.
Shit stinks, whether someone is pointing it out or not.
Discovered Nerdrotic during Comicsgate.
Discovered Drinker around the time of Captain Marvel.
Now I can delight that I have discovered Chato to go with the Ejacolyte.
There will always be good, creative souls to call out the nihilistic anti-capitalist destructionist bullshit flooding the entertainment industry! Thanks for the hard work.
Thanks for your comment.
I came across these two after finding MauLer, after watching the terrible Star Wars new trilogy. Funny guys
I hope you don't discover new content creators, your track record is around media disasters, and I would like less of those.
@@jeremygilby1455 I'll have to work on that - definitely would not like to have been somehow responsible for subscribing to Carl Benjamin and precipitating Comicsgate as a result.
Thank you. As a nerd and geek that has been raised under the 10th anniversary edition Star Wars and huge LOTR fan, I saw both my passions being crapped on by people, its tiring. People like them just want to tell what no one wants to hear, and therefore, they force it on us through things they know we like. In turn, they shit on the medium. Just leave the mediums be.
As a fan of classic Star Trek, the 5 act structure imposed by an hour of broadcast television with commercials made for compelling television. You had the short teaser at the beginning to grab you, then all the mini cliffhangers at the end of each act with a resolution at the very end. Cynically this structure was there to get you to watch the ads and come back for the next ad, but now that I have everything on disc without the commercials it’s an objectively a good way to tell a story. Something interesting MUST happen every 8 minutes or so. Art always needs some limitations to be great, some constraint.
Also, where appropriate, alternate between an A & B storyline: to keep interest, provide tension or comic relief, use more of the cast of characters (and maybe use one plot for longer-arc character development), or even set up for an ending that combines the two threads in an unexpected conclusion.
Leave it to Disney to amplify the stereotype of black children with no fathers.
It's interesting that lesbian space witches rights leads to racial stereotypes.
lol! The force is a dead beat dad.
That shit was hilarious though.
I learned about this stereotype from Disney 😅
The force isn't an absent dad. It just went out to the shops for milk and cigarettes and will be home very soon.
Why haven't we seen studios make shows to air on TV, but then have a few of those cut scenes, a bit of extra content available on their exclusive streaming network?
- They'd get content for their monetizable networks,
- They'd get a bigger audience for the show, and
- They'd have new demand for their streaming network to see the extra parts missed on TV.
The model is the same as all those director's cut and unrated versions of movies. People paid to see them once, then the extra content at minimal cost pulls in their cash a second time.
Likewise, remember all that great content that used to be on DVDs? The making of documentaries, the commentary tracks, the behind the scenes, outtakes, cut scenes, etc.--why aren't studios filling their streaming service with all those goodies?
And then there's the Disney Vault--you could only get certain movies at certain times, and the constrained supply created demand. Why isn't Disney pulling a lot of content off perpetual hosting on D- and making 'special events' each month where certain classics and other specials can be watched during a limited release of two months only. It would people talking about what would be available coming up, and create perpetual incentives to start service or not cancel--i.e., you wouldn't be able to binge all you want in one month and cancel.
Shhhh that makes too much sense
If regressive, anti-capitalist, anti-free-market, woke-bots were capable of that level of thought and understanding, they wouldn't be regressive, anti-capitalist, anti-free-market, woke-bots...
Drinker and Nerdrotic deserve all the success they are getting. They're two of the best pop culture critics out there. Their comments are always intelligent and entertaining. As it's said, you catch the flak as you get over the target.
THEY MUST BE GIVEN THE "BUD LIGHT" TREATMENT
Agreed. They're two of the best commentators/critics of pop culture out there.
I adore Disparu as well.
They are the most overrated one trick ponies on TH-cam , all they do is repeat the same buzzword for everything!
@@rocoe9019 They are rated by their subscribers, so if anything, they are 'overrated' by how much power is being projected on them to have the influence to actually take a multi-million dollar show from a multi-billion dollar company down. I personally don't follow/watch Nerdrotic much, but The Critical Drinker has been around for years now, so no... not a one trick pony... you can also reference his older reviews to see that he's not a 'one trick pony', and to also see the evolving frustration with Disney Star Wars as well as other drivel modern Hollywood has been releasing... at the same time, you also see him praising well written, acted, and directed films as well.
"your legacy will amount to less than the sum total of Pauly Shore and Sarah Silverman" is about the most vicious burn I have ever heard. That is... just... Chef's Kiss.
Well done sir, take a bow, you have won the Internet this day.
It's almost comical how a gigantic corporation like Disney comes after individual youtubers for their mistakes
Like a giant stubbing it's toe and then trying to blame a gnat.
Disney must be pretty easy to shake up if it only takes two youtubers.
Lost cost Disney energy expended fruitlessly
😆 LOL 😆!
Remember they hired lawyers to get after South Park! And still went home with their tails between their legs. I guess they think these guys don’t have as much money to lawyer up as South Park?
It's the older crowd that still watches Network TV. They would have tolerated that garbage even less than those on Disney Plus.
You must be thinking of nursing home residents on drugs enjoying the flickering of screens.
Anyone else here not following Disney Star Wars at all but enjoying hearing about this mess?
100%. Gave up WAY YAY back. Lol.
Sadly no. I really enjoyed the first three movies as a kid, and it's painful to see the garbage it's all been turned into. I want us to get to total apathy as soon as possible so I don't have to hear about it at all anymore.
Yes, stopped caring. That's what people do. I would like to watch good Star Wars, but I am not entitled to it. This whole back and forth is just so childish and lame. And both sides don't have anything meaningful to add.
Yo.
YES
They both give a voice to the disenfranchised masses.
They do not make profit, they make investor money.
The more woke you score, the more pension money is pumped your way. Free cash.
Just like Enron. The company goes under, gets "free" funds, and the CEOs and CFOs make out like bandits. Dayum the fans, they got theirs. The epitome of "get that bag queen" that so many pretend is some laudable ethical stance.
It's the exact type of cronyism lefties claim to despise about capitalism, but they seem to have this severe mental block where they cannot bring themselves to criticize any corporation that pays lip service to The Message.
I think the wheels have to come off this at some time. Even a behemoth like Disney.
Convince me they're not in a pump n dump scam to rebuy everything for pennies on the Dollar.
@paulscottrobson they're being pushed alot by vanguard and Blackrock. Massive investment firms with literally nations' worth of money.
If you make garbage, don't be surprised if it stinks and everyone can smell it.
😆 LOL 😆!
The former network executive perspective is always appreciated for its insights.
This is a great commentary. Thanks for posting it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
So 2 TH-cam commentors were able to take down Disney? They must be mighty powerful individuals to destroy the Goliath that was Disney! I remember when other giant studios tried to vanquish the juggernaut that was Disney. Disney laughed at those other studios for even trying. But in the end, all it took were 2 TH-cam commentors to destroy the mighty Disney. Is that what Kathleen Kennedy is trying to tell us?
Yep. And she's too stup1d to even grasp what that means...Because if her work can be completely destroyed by two TH-camrs, those two TH-camrs are the absolute _least_ of her problems.
Restrictions often improve art. Poetic forms that require meter and rhyme force the poet to work harder. This often makes for better results than free verse.
Making a compelling story for broadcast where you can't just drop you pants, often literally, is harder and forces creative writing. Often the worst things you get from an artist are when they are successful enough to demand "creative control".
Absolutely. 💯
Millions of people not watching dreck Disney Star Wars have never heard of Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker
In a family of four. Only I have heard of either of them. The only Star Wars show anyone has watched more than one episode of is the Mandalorian (we might possibly have watched 2 episodes of Boba Fett ?). That is now down to zero.
They have now! Thanks Dismal! 👍
@@Mangolorian-je3eo DEIsney can't hep themselves in stepping into the _Streisand Effect_ with both feet...
Honestly... When I watched both I was still watching D+, I stopped watching them almost simultaneously because I wasn't going to support prime for RoP and get D+ pretty much free by comparison.
@@paulscottrobson if you are still paying for D+, Andor is superb.
You, sir, are criminally undersubbed. Best perspective on youtube.
Wow, thank you!
I still don't understand why there aren't shareholder lawsuits. Disney has lost at least 10 billion in potential revenue on Lucasfilm and the stock has tanked.
I sold my shares some time ago. It wasn't a lot, but I made a few bucks. It's possible that those who still own, think the same as those in charge of creative.
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The shareholders support them.
@@johnrockwell5834 Never knew there were investors that don't care if they lose money. Must be nice.
Cough Black rock cough
All the studios making streaming services thinking it was the road to riches forgot they actually have to pave that road. 😆
Disney never admits they are responsible. Thankfully, I don't wait for Disney's approval before mocking them.
Its amazing to consider that 2 guys who sit behind a camera in their homes and talk are the ones who took down this multi-million-billion-whatever $ movie studio. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is truly amazing that Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker can influence seven billion humans to ignore Disney's trash. I am impressed. Much respect to them.
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It's like someone setting themselves on fire and then blaming the onlookers for the damage. Disney has done this to themselves.
Paul, yes, this is the perspctive we needed. Thank you.
I’m always grateful for your perspective! possibly my favourite American sitcom of all time is “Frasier.” When I purchased the DVDs, it was the first time I had seen entire episodes intact without breaks, which made it much easier to appreciate the set up and nuances etc.
As for the mini cliffhangers, I am immediately reminded of Star Trek: tng when the camera would zoom in on Picard frowning while ominous music plays. Watching those episodes on DVD, the mini cliffhangers are kind of quaintly unnecessary. But during the original broadcast, they were very effective.
Thank you very much for the video! 🙏🎯😁
It literally is sending out the flying monkeys on their critics.
I got that reference.
😆 LOL 😆!
In the original novel, it’s made very clear that the flying monkeys are no better than slaves and they’re relatively innocent. Here, they’re volunteering to hurt people they disagree with.
@@markiangooley not volunteering, thay are paid for (the big media it is, shills are shills for free)
But the studio emploiees are another story.
Here in Brazil, TV studios forced theyr emploiees to engage on social media, under threath of dismissal and blacklisting them from the media business.
They even had to create some false Facebook and Twitter accounts to boost the studio's narratives with pre-set dicourse and false engagement numbers, if they wanted to keep theyr jobs, or have a chance of new oppportunities on the industry ever again.
BTW, I'm paraphrasing an interview with an former actor that witnessed it all.
Do not tell me that Un-hollywoke would be any different
Nerdrotic and the Critical Drinker are fabulous.
I miss the mini-cliffhangers before commercials. They provided structure.
Yep
Wild that Gary and Drinker have writing credits on the Acolyte.
Do you think the Drinker meant the power of 1 barrel of turpentine, the power of 2 barrels and then just vomited.
The power of DEI, The power of Shill, The Power of Moonneeyy!
😂
DEI is a synonym for J. E. W.
Paul Chato, loved you on Four On The Floor!
Wow an old fan.
@@CallMeChato Sad thing is Mr CanoeHead is far more gripping drama than the acolyte.
Thank you again, Paul, for your insider's perspective.
People who refuse to listen to criticism will never grow or hone any craft. If someone's ego is so big that they refuse to listen to any criticism, constructive or not, they will never learn from their mistakes. That is why some writers today keep writing badly developed stories and characters.
In their minds, they are never wrong. In their minds only those who they disagree with politically are the ones whom dislike their work. It is one of the traps of their ideology. To them only the morally virtuous support them and the immoral disagree with them. It is easier to discard the opinions of those they deem immoral.
I really do believe a lot of it is their own arrogance, the social media bubbles they are in and their ideology. As BIll Burr said, many people today really need to 'step out of their comfort zone and expand their circle of friends to realize that not everyone thinks the way they do'. Even people who agree with you on one thing will often disagree with you on another.
Debate and discussion with those we disagree with gives a chance for all parties involved to learn and grow. As a writer that is very important, in my opinion. I think people will be more successful writing what they know the more they know. Even if you agree to disagree you know a perspective exists outside of your own and hopefully come to at least understand why that perspective may exist in the first place.
“Front Holier than thou.”
You’re welcome to borrow that phrase.
I’m trademarking it.
Im suddenly overwhelmed with sadness, thinking what disney used to be, and how they will maybe never go back to that quality. Love the jacket.
Keith Moon was more conservative in spending than KK.
I understood that reference 😂
Keith moon destroyed a lot of hotel rooms, but Kathleen Kennedy sunk an entire hotel.
And, just like Rockefeller, he was spending his own money. :-)
Those boys have a LOT of power! Disney should pay them to be silent. Pay them a LOT!
Imagine being a multi-billion dollar corporation and being forced to admit that you're being brought down by two random dudes on TH-cam! 😂
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They've come so far. Feels like just a few years ago they were "a tiny insignificant minority" that will be ignored.
Gary and Drinker being so huge behind Chato... Like the Trolls listening to the Dwarves in the Hobbit...
That's a big "ouch" to Pauly Shore and Sarah Silverman. 😆
They are scum. Barely worth licking the feet of Rob Schneider or Buscemi.
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I wasn't sure who should be insulted by that comparison. I can just imagine Sarah Silverman coming out and saying, "Come on, I'm not THAT bad!"
Drinker and Nerdrotic were the kid pointing out that the Emperor had no clothes.
They had the legitimate analysis of an inferior production.
Thanks for summing that up. These days I often feel like I‘m living in a different Universe, since somethings have become their perverted opposite.
I meant some things ;)
Keith Moon on a bender. I love it. The key difference is that Keith Moon was fun.
Out of curiosity, the next Star Wars project, how do you think that’ll be received?? Disney and it’s mafia has labeled, libeled, slandered, insulted, lied, and attacked the former fan base. Seems like any goodwill that there was left with Gina carrano. The force isn’t female, the force is fallow
Oppressed rich black girl magic.
btw, the r-worded rap song was a deliberate honey trap to get channels Disney doesn't like struck with a false DMCA if they played it. The real targets didn't take the bait.
Remember these are the same people that dreamed up #ThemToo and used it to remove people like John Lasseter and many others on trumped up charges. It has been a downward spiral ever since.
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@@sharonthebarron pathetic!
I guess she is real mad at her rich white daddy.
"FrontHolers!"...You are my Hero! PC eats itself!
Only reason they haven't blamed Doomcock is because they cannot monetize him and his merch
They leave Doomcock alone because he can always push the button.
They did try to throw shade on him during the She Hulk series but he basically just laughed it off and took it as a compliment 😂
Well said, Paul, you always have an eloquent way of laying things out. BTW, I stumbled across a meme on youtube recently that offers a great, functional definition of stupidity. "Refusal to know the obvious, as in it's obvious no one is buying their razist, homofobe, misogionist review bombing narrative, yet they keep crying about this particular wolf.
The power of Will
The power of you
The power of Gaarryyyyyyy
Chato: YOU are our voice! A renaissance man of the times! The light in the shadow! The trumpet at midnight! You are AJAX the breaker of stone!!
Disney pulled a Principal Skinner again.
😆 LOL 😆!
No... It's the youtubers who are wrong
After o'keefe released the antiwhite racism from that VP at Disney, I won't ever watch another disney program.
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You are correct. The broadcast audience does not watch YT. The broadcast audience is mostly Boomers watching their cop serials. I know, my parents are them. They love Blue Bloods.
Star Wars left their world when Disney decided to stop releasing films in theaters and put their new shows on streaming.
Yeah, it's a weird hybrid People who watch these interminable streaming shows full of sanctimonious tripe. Half boomer, half zoomer.
Yep. Nice simple stuff (as a Boomer). In the UK probably the most popular cop serial is the most lightweight which is now in four franchises, the main two are Death in Paradise (Season 14 and 2 spin offs) and Midsomer Murders (now in Series 23), they're fairly lightweight very straightforward shows (despite the murders).
All the gritty tough dramas populated by strong women and ethnic characters who are all good and white people who are all bad (it is that unsubtle), they don't get beyond Season 1 often.
This apparently doesn't seem to get through to the people who make TV. The shows they want to make sink without trace. The ones they are basically forced to make because there'd be riots if they were cancelled go on forever.
Nobody cares about ethnicity (Death in Paradise is set in the Caribbean, so most of the cast is black anyway). What they object to is it being pushed at gunpoint.
Great move Disney, name the channels of 2 guys who are calling you out so all the disney fans can go and see the truth. Genius. Its amazing what fear and panic does to people.
Disney is right those two control my thoughts and actions about everything.
Me too. Go away now!
They must be using their Jedi mind tricks on us.
Disney would even blame the casual person it sees in a mirror to deny it's their own fault.
"Like Keith Moon on a bender" 😂
You guys are so much more entertaining than anything coming out of the Mainstream and I thank you all for it /salute
I almost walked out of The Last Jedi and I hadn't heard of these two at that point.
I was laughing (audibly) at the end of Rise of Skywalker. I was trying to work out as if it was the exact same script as Episode VI or just the same plot.
@@paulscottrobson LOL as was I when I saw animals being ridden on the outside surface of a starship in the middle of a space/arial battle. Outrageous.
Condolences on your loss, as a Canadian. Maybe someday. Thirty years... wow. 🏒
It's your fault too now I put you up there along with these guys. You're just as awesome in my view.
Thanks to your explanation of cutting episodes to strict lengths I finally get why a joke was cut from the pilot of Frasier. Niles is looking at brochures of rest homes and says “Golden Acres. We care so you don’t have to.” In the DVD release Frasier asks “it says that?” And Niles responds “It might as well.”
I remember people had massive criticism for _Titanic_ , but it still sold out. If the product is good, people ignore the critics. If the product is bad, critics are the only people who bother to see it.
Even bad things are loved by the audience, if they appeal to their basic instincts, if they show s*x and violence and the lone wolf taking revenge or something like that. It should just not be boring.
CHATO…… you’re my new favorite host!! Coming from network tv, I salute you!
We’re all painfully aware of it by now…
This is not entertainment. It’s messaging, and it’s political.
Propaganda 101: Propaganda doesn’t work once the audience realizes it’s propaganda.
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This is such a good point. The audience is gone as soon as they sense they are being preached at or lied to.
If Disney put The Acolyte on ABC then there would be concrete ratings numbers. Disney doesn't want that.
Yeah, tell Disney to leave our nerds alone . " Who knew, I did" your Line delivery Lol😊
The lack one important word in their vocabulary, accountability.
Dr. Chato, may your star continue to soar so you too can bring down a megacorp. And in your special case, it would be done with whimsy and style.
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Can't blame Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker for Disney's failures. I haven't watched either of them talk about it.
I saw for myself how bad it was.
Very funny! You have more creativity in your little finger than Disney has in the entire empire.
Some more fair and balanced analysis of a couple of reviewers. Nice work Chato!
Yup, all this has achieved has been a marketing win for TH-cam, a direct competitor to streaming platforms, and Drinker and Nerdrotic as content producers.
Good point about mini-cliffhangers and commercial breaks. I'd imagine showrunners and advertisers hashed out early on what most effectively kept audience's attention and sold the most products.
Perfect, Chato! Perfect!
You do make an excellent point about how the restrictions that constrained commercial television writers in the past made for more disciplined, and thus better, writing.
I think of some of the timeless shows of the classic TV era, where you literally wanted every member of the family to like something about your show, or at least to not be scandalized by it.
Even adult themes can be presented in a way that goes right past the kids but hits adults right in the gut.
The irony of streaming whatever length they want on the one hand, and now the routine R-rated television where there are no restrictions on content, has reduced the art to not even a pale reflection of what it once was.
Now that activists like LH can just blow through a billion dollars and throw any crap on the screen they want, and insult not only your values, but your intelligence in the process, leads me to think we've entered the Dark Ages of American entertainment.
The UN will be writing a sternly worded letter to Critical drinker.
This was my first exposure to you and your style. I'm sold, I subscribed! I have watched Her critic and Critical Drinker for two to three years because I respect their point of view and how they support their arguments. I see a similar ability with you, hence my subscription. I appreciate your member berries of tinsel town greats and industrial heavyweights, no need to Google here. Looking forward to the next installment and checking out your past library of vids. Grazie!
I thought it was my fault...
Love the jacket!
Like haters have to hate, flying monkeys have to fly, Chato! I'm glad that Dr. Who is only on Disney Plus these days. If it was still on the ABC (that's the Australian Broadcasting Corporation) or available on DVD, it would have broken my heart according to AZ and Gary. Who's judgement I trust, by the way. It was our generation of Dr. Who fans that kept the show on life support during its long 18-year hiatus. It was us, not those new breed of Whovians who bought the VHS cassettes, the DVDs, the books, the magazines, and went to all those cheesy overpriced conventions. We had skin in this game. Only now to be told not to watch but go out and touch some grass. So I would like to thank Disney and the BBC for inadvertently doing true fans an enormous favour by limiting the damage to this streaming contrivance. It's so much better to remain ignorant than ruining a lifetime of happy memories!
The power of one!
The power of two!
The power of bankruptcyyyyyyyyy....
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Surprised that anyone who is officially a part of Disney would give acknowledgement to the Drinker and Nerdrotic. Truly a complement.
Must Be Nice: Going To Go In To Work Tomorrow And Yell At My Boss For His Poor Attitude And Not Accepting My Lack Of Interest In His Job Requirements… Hey You Should Just Accept It …. Disney Is DONE ….
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That’s crazy talk, Mauler does the 3 hour essays that tear them apart.