"New" Star Wars reminds me of "New" coke back in the day. Both were failures. Know your customers is a forgotten axiom. No wonder Capitalism is falling apart.
If we all do this, it actually may work. Banned myself long time ago... When episode 7 was only a rumor. I was in high school and i was in love with galaxy far far away for a few years at that moment. Still love it) But I can't forget that strange feeling i got that day I first time heard of episode 7 and Disney. It felt like something punched me in a head. But I never regret of left only 6 movies and few videogames for me and left all new things out of my interests. Now i know how right i was.
@@Allex_0.9 Stuff like Rogue One and the animated series are great. The sequels and the streaming stuff though.....I love seeing Ahsoka, but they could've done much better, and the mandalorian stuff too. But they could've done better
I think Kathy not only holds a massive grudge against George and Steven but used to give them "special" services not included with the price of each coffee but totally filmed while doing them... For personal use and other blackmail purposes... Of course!
I recently rewatched Empire and came to a realization- there is more "tech" stuff happening between luke falling from bespine to when he is recued by lando than I remember in all of disneywars. The antennas, hatches, hydraulics, the lift and hatch on the falcon.. that stuff is just gone, or if its there is is just weightless and fake.
That's because the new movies and shows are not sci-fi at all. They don't have any scifi "science" or engineering because the women making the movies and shows didn't even think about that part of the genre or the reality they're trying to portray. It doesn't come naturally to them and they don't understand what draws boys and men (and some women) to for example scifi. They rewrote everything into an emotional soap opera because that's what they want and that's all they understand. I know there are women who do understand scifi and love it, but it seems that none of them ended up at Lucasfilm or Disney. It's disheartening.
Even in the prequels, you have Anakin who is a tinkerer. He worked on the podracer, worked on C-3PO, who had no shell to begin with and had all of his mechanics exposed, he loved vehicles and starships. Those movies are filled to the brim with such things. The lightsabers are distinct and express their individual personalities. Etc.
well... they made lightsabers that went out... which might reflect their real life ability to handle technology. (yeah I know a lot of females that are great with tech, but not those meddling with Star wars)
I too recently pallet cleansed with the OG trilogy (had to remind myself why I liked this series at all). That is an excellent observation. What also struck me while rewatching is how handy Luke is in all three films. The force truly is his *ally*, not his master. He uses tech, blasters, rocks, whatever he can get his hands on when things go wrong. Most of all he uses his brain to get out of tricky situations. Disney Wars is far too force-reliant, which also makes it into an Achilles heel of sorts as they allow their enemies to define what a Jedi is or is not for them. If they are incapacitated or lose their lightsabers, they basically die. That's one of the many reasons why I love OG Luke and reject anything that came after.
Toss in Marvel movies too. The heroes journey doesn't exist anymore. Power-girls are just born with the gift of being awesome at everything. They've completely embraced the villain. There is no good/evil anymore, everything is subjective, personal and must be viewed through a progressive 21st century presentist lens.
The problem is that they don't realize that girls have their own story journey, best explored in something like Beauty and the Beast, that they are supposed to go through. Men build and defend places and things. Women build and nurture people. Society is failing, in large part, because modern women haven't been trained to do their job.
@@JoJo-vg8dz It's a heck of a lot deeper than just the action... it's also the motives which result in the action. Personal survival, as a motive, is "fine"... it's just "meh"... because we all do it every day when we get up to go to work. The hero's journey isn't about personal benefit... it's about doing what is right BECAUSE it's right... and because it benefits OTHER people. This new stuff is usually just selfish... personal gain... and that very much includes the stated comments from the people behind the shows.
I keep calling the show "the act of spite"....maybe somebody will recognize my genius some day and use it. I know!!! I got it! I'm a black lesbian! Now they have to use it.
Maybe it's penis envy. they had lesbian space witches getting pregnant from the Force, yet kathleen said The Force is female. That's not how biology works, kathy. =)
This level of cultural vandalism should be considered a crime. Never before in history has such utter incompetence been rewarded this highly. Kathleen Kennedy must have some serious dirt on people to still have a job.
Star Wars fails because the male power fantasy is not the same as the female power fantasy. We have forgotten as a society what toymakers have known all along.
it failed because Kathy want's to destroy George....she lied to him
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@@Designsecrets No, she wanted to show the world that she's better that George. She wanted to usurp his legacy, and mangling it until it was so unrecognizable that everyone would cheer for her. Problem is, the only people cheering for KK are the voices in her head.
Most women do not identify with Kathleen Kennedy's power fantasy. We identify with female characters who act like women, and like male characters who are allowed to be brave, charismatic, and handsome.
I do think you're onto something. I've worked in several female led businesses, where all ideas are not examined or evaluated, they are immediately labelled 'disruptive' or 'revolutionary' despite if you examined them (and often post mortemed the result) they were flawed and bad from the outset. But to examine or question them you are labelled 'negative'. There is a current culture where all ideas and opinions are valid (they are not - this is why we have experts) and all ideas have to be celebrated with pats on the back. This is why when disney projects fail to resonate with audiences they genuinely don't understand why. They are shrouded and blinded by this bubble of positivity "we all thought it was amazing" etc.
Neither of these things actually exist in the ways the terms are used today. Much like most claims of sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. they've lost their intended meanings and have instead become synonymous with behaviors previous generations would have simple called 'being an asshole'. By permitting people to place that under the guise of political or socially motivated grievance, we give it far more power or credit than it deserves.
@@KatallinaVT I think a big part of the problem is that people don't even agree about the definition of "asshole behavior" any longer. Our culture is fracturing into separate bubbles. Some people are mortally offended by misgendering or using the wrong pronoun and a lot bigger number of people don't even see a problem with using "he" for a biological male. Values and traditions are becoming fluid and free for anyone to interpret as they please. One person's asshole is another person's freedom fighter or social activist or whatever.
@@KatallinaVT I think the writers of star wars are actual misandrists though (had to google that). It's third wave feminism. However, I agree with you that these ism-terms are thrown around loosely these days. Often falsely. By the way, I wrote star wars in small caps because it lost my respect.
@@janklaassen6404 There are no waves of feminism, there are only stages of completion. The fact that it takes several generations to subvert a culture does not mean that doing so wasn't the original goal. The only form of regret ever expressed on the matter was from 70's feminists who could see that the next generation was making a huge mistake by openly hating men, which would cause men to finally stop serving women. Those women understood that the way to play men is to say "This is good for women and will make us happy."
The gold mine of Star Wars was the merchandising, which was mostly boys buying toys. Girls were never going to buy as many toys as boys do if they made SW a girl focused brand, even if Disney hadn't hadn't screwed it up. Such malpractice, from the very beginning.
And for all the adult men mocking the lesbian space witches, no one’s asking what should be the obvious question… would 10-year-olds think lesbian space witches are cool? This is a property that's supposed to be primarily for children after all, so are any kids nagging their parents for a lesbian space witch doll?
I think you underestimate how much Disney can make by selling clothes and accessories to girls and women. Rey Halloween costumes are a much more important metric than Rey action figures for gauging their success. Children out grow clothing over time and their favorite T-shirts need to be replaced. If Disney could keep the franchise going they could cash in every back to school season, year after year
Never gonna happen. Spaceballs Too will be another Ghostbusters 2016. Not funny in the slightest. Hollywood fired all the good comedy writers and hired talentless hacks to replace them.
"Colonel Sanders?" "Yes, my lord?" "I need lesbians." "We all do, sir." "No, no, I mean to win the war. We need lesbians in order to win the war! Get me... some lesbians! Lots of lesbians!"
@@EamonThePhilogynistWalford I had to google it, but there really is a History of the world Part 2...and apparently it sucks, go figure. Never going to watch Spaceballs2, I sa the first film in the cinema when it came out, and I'll leave it at that.
Before ComicsGaet, before GamerGaet, "Sad Puppies" tried, a decade ago when the headwaters of our culture started being deliberately polluted. "Preachy message-fic is the leading cause of sadness in puppies" was their slogan, as they tried to overturn the activist domination of Science Fiction's Hugo awards. Sadly, they failed. This was the first skirmish of the Franchise Wars, and the forces of good lost catastrophically.
So no Casablanca, Modern Times, The Great Dictator, Exodus, Ten Commandments, Apocalypse Now, MASH, Catch 22, It's a Wonderful Life, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Meet John Doe, Grapes of Wrath, Young Abraham Lincoln,.....
Wow, Google is unhappy that their activists' propaganda is being called propaganda, and ever more upset that people are seeing it as such. They've been poisoning the headwaters of culture for over a decade now, starting with Sad Puppies (motto - "Preachy Message-Fic is the leading cause of sadness in puppies") and going through a bunch of "scandals" ending in "-gate" that we're never supposed to mention again. Their argument? "It's our turn now". Our counter-argument? "It's been your turn for over a decade at this point, and it's been a disaster. Time for someone else to have a turn again."
J.K. Rowling CREATED Harry Potter. Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson were plucked from youthful obscurity to be made stars and after two or three movies they started to actually act. Yet the two actors somehow think they are now smarter than the WOMAN who made them famous and call out Rowling for her most sane, sensible stands supporting WOMEN over men who want to be women. Isn’t giving men who want to be women preferential treatment over biological women a perverse perpetuation of the patriarchy?
In fairness there's a lot of pressure to conform in Hollywood. If they want to work they have to toe the line. Rowling has a bit more of the FAFO money if people try and pressure her:).
I have no sympathy for Rowling. She is a feminist. Leftists and feminists created this DEI monster. They just never thought it would come for them. Big mistake.
Excellent points. Never thought of it that way. Always knew something was missing, other than a good story, but just couldn't put my finger on it. Thank you sir.
I'll never forget when Steven Spielberg made a speech in front of Kathleen Kennedy, wanting to thank 3 people of whom without them Indiana Jones wouldn't be the success it is; 1. George Lucas - the creator 2. Harrison Ford - the actor And when he got to the third person, Kathleen got ready to come forward thinking it was her, then Spielberg announced; 3. John Williams - music composer 😂
I prefer to ban BAD, ARROGANT WOMEN from making Star Wars. If a woman is competent, and is a fan of George Lucas' work, and dosen't hate the actual fans of Star Wars, then she is more than welcome to work on the franchise in my eyes.
This here is exactly why I resent KK and the other one for doing this to Star Wars. All women are suddenly being blamed for the state Star Wars is in. We never asked for this garbage, and these people are certainly not the pinnacle of female filmographic capabilty. Also, Carrie Fisher was a well respected script editor.
Generally men are interested in things, women are interested in people. With exceptions, of course, but everyone knows this. I don't know where this trope of female tinkerers and mechanics in movies, TV and video games came from, but i've never seen a women in an auto shop. Glad you mentioned D.C. Fontana too. She's a legend and i'd happily watch anything written by someone of her calibre.
You can fix Rey's "fixing the Falcon" with one line of dialog, maybe two: "I just replaced parts that looked broken, with parts that didn't look broken." For those slow on the uptake: "For the last ten years, my dinner depended on being able to tell the difference, so I've got a knack for it." This is set up nicely in previous scenes where she trades various-quality scrap for varying amounts of food, and in turn sets up the idea that this "knack" is from the Force. It also helps that this is what actual field repairs on military equipment are like. Not a chance in h**l that anyone on that production team knew that, or if they did, felt like they could speak up about their real-world expertise.
I don't think it's about gender, but rather about competence and respect for the work. Neither compentence nor respect seem prevalent in the current crop of content creators over at Disney though. Ah well, no longer any skin of my back, I quit cold turkey quite a while ago - and have therefore re-discovered my joy of reading, socialising and going for walks.
I love the direction KK has taken Star Wars. The more slop she pushes through, the more money Disney loses. The more the mouse loses, the lesser its influence. Star Wars ended when the franchise was sold. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
And women don't fight in wars. It's just a lesbian power trip. These ridiculous female warriors and fighters who beat men in combat in every new movie don't exist IRL.
@@JoJo-vg8dz In the real world a bunch of buff male soldiers would have clocked all of these women and the acolyte series would have ended with the first episode. It's just delusional to try to pretend that women can do everything men can do and do it in fact better. (Men can't do everything women can or not as well. This goes both ways. Complementing eachother etc.)
They completely forgot the heroes... and what heroes (and heroines) actually are. In fact, they threw the actual heroes under the proverbial bus back in TLJ. Star Wars OT: Obi-wan... being a hero at the Death Star. Luke... becoming a Jedi, not for himself, but to help/rescue his friends, and later redeem Vader Leia... being a heroic leader to restore freedom... for everyone, not just her own personal survival. (similar to Sarah Connor) Han Solo - switching from personal survival mode to being a hero, like when he risks himself to rescue Luke in ESB... and be Luke's wingman at the Death Star in ANH. What's this new stuff from The Rot Dismal Company? Destroy Luke to replace him with Rey... and what, really, is Rey's motive? HOW do they destroy Luke? Reputation destruction, favorite tactic of guess-who. Destroy Indy, to replace him with PWB... who is just... greedy? Selfish? Girlboss. The new Snow White... NOT going to be rescued by a man... because she's... got SELFISH goals of her own and doesn't need a man. The new Little Mermaid... personal gain. The new Wendy (and Peter Pan)... all about Girl Bossing... She-Hulk... personal gain. The Acolyte... personal revenge? Having and using power... to do what he wants with it? "It's about who is allowed to have power..." according to the female star of the show. Wanda in WandaVision... what Wanda wants... which just happens to be Vision. There's nothing wrong with what she wants, just that it's for herself. The new SW show/movie, directed by that Obaid-Chinoy person... "I like to make men uncomfortable"... translation, spite, aka, "chip on shoulder".
When Lucas and Spielberg were creating, they were trying to capture the wonders and imagination they experienced as wide-eyed children. Kennedy et. al. (meaning the DEI gang) seem preoccupied with dragging down everyone into a kind of existential misery, like a tired parent determined to crush creativity in their children in the name of practicality.
Your observation about gear porn is more important the more I realize that its lack is part of what is killing pop culture for me. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy was Peter Jackson showcasing New Zealand artisans and craftsmen who worked like maniacs to provide the extras with workable, thematically correct armour. Every scene was constructed with love, hard work, dedication and skill. You could feel the love. The Rings of Power was half a dozen girlbosses designing soldier costumes and emailing the 3d printer. No care, no love, no more important than the plastic flowers in a cubicle farm. Aggressive, feminine disinterest in the nuts and bolts that make our world work is probably the one thing that truly gets under my skin about the woke.
Seeing palettes of Admiral Holdo dolls on the shelves at Ollie’s always reminds me of the Lisa Lionheart episode of the Simpsons. The only difference is the Lisa Lionheart doll inspired one girl at the very end, and Admiral Holdo inspires no one.
And let's not forget how she makes the whole side quest that Po, Finn, and I think the girl's name was Rose, went on is made pointless by her actions. We didn't even get a scene where the senior command staff discussed the possibility that rather than The First Order having some sort of tracker capable of following hyoer-space jumps, there was a traitor on board transmitting their new location upon exit, so there was absolutely no reason to not tell the people whose lives she is entrusted with as acting supreme commander of the Resistance forces that she does in fact have a plan. Good guys aren't supposed to blindly obey orders without question and Po deciding on mutiny after his leaders refuse to tell him they have a plan is rather reasonable as a result.
I kind of felt the opposite, and thought it odd that she didn’t make much of an act of gross insubordination that cost lives, even if it got them a (pointless) win. Dude should have ended up in the brig stripped of rank.
No it’s because she was a cotton candy haired ho..hypocrite. She knew Poe (had to look up his name because I forgot, that’s how much so don’t care) was right and the best , despite disobeying her orders. Instead of being honest with him or letting/ telling him what to do she had to be “a strong independent female” and reprimand, emasculate him . Oh wait , we’re not there yet . Then THEN after berating him, Leia say “I like him” and Holdo responds “So DO I” hehehe 🤭 WTF ! And then Admiral Representation goes and “sacrifices” herself in a ridiculous move which really didn’t do much in the long run. So Stunning, Brave and Bold.
It's not about gender it's about hiring talentless activists instead of passionate fans. They are more concerned about checking boxes and inserting "THE MESSAGE" than making anything faithful to the franchise. Ban woke.
As a kid I had multiple Star Wars action figures and equipment. It immersed me into that universe. It was more than play, it was becoming a Jedi. There is no way any of these women had those toys. Understand the love that went into learning all the nuisances of three of the greatest movies ever made. Their fan fiction is rooted in their experience, not the experience of Star Wars.
Women did a lot on Star Wars in the old EU and did it well. They just weren't...these women. Karen Traviss, former war reporter and writer of Gears of War 3, created the very popular Mandalorian culture (that Filoni threw out except when he doesn't) and a lot of women did a lot behind the scenes in steering the whole ship.
@@kaygee2121 These sorts of girls have bene ruining things for us nerdy women since middle school and I guess they're just going to keep doing it, with exactly the same attitude. Their gift for making men hostile to us is the same, too.
The trouble is that Kathleen Kennedy and her crowd of activists is that they can only make one movie. No matter what franchise they are leeching off, they produce the same thing - the Southpark "Put a chick in it, make her gay and lame". It's boring. It's not wanted by audiences. But here we are again and again.
It's not the chromesomes, it's the spite. The people being chosen to create this stuff have a gigantic chip on their shoulder against the old audience. Take away the spite, the other issues (writing quality, respect for the source) would be corrrected by more competent people.
No, it's the chromosomes. Other than a few soyboys, the writers, producers, casting agents, and marketing executives that have wrecked this beloved franchise have been exclusively women. The spite to which you refer is driven by a pathological hatred, specific to radical feminists, for a story that celebrates male virtues of heroism and sacrifice, and is beloved by men of all ages and cultures. The spite is _who they are._
It's the chromosomes, too. XY evolved to self-sacrifice for the benefit of XX and kids... not always, but VERY commonly. XY has always been expendable. (cannon fodder, for example) XX evolved to... receive benefits. (food, shelter, protection, etc) The spite comes from jealousy, greed, envy... XY has something (a successful franchise), and the XX wants to take it over... take it from the XY. It isn't just in the show/movie script... it's in the words that come out of their mouths in real life... and in their DNA.
The new show runners were very specifically tasked with making an old brand SW popular with a new younger audience. The reason behind this is the fact that young people mostly girls and women spend a disproportionate amount of money on merchandise. It really is all about the money
In case you haven't noticed, the average female does have a gigantic chip on her shoulder against men. The proof of this is that any female-lead project or community is full of hostility toward men.
One of the things that drew me to the original Star Wars when I first saw it in theaters were the depiction of grit, dirt , exposed machinery and general wear and tear on spacecraft, fighters, droids, star ships etc. like you know in the real world. Sadly that is sorely lacking in recent Star Wars or even the prequel trilogy. Now everything is brand spanking new and we can't be bothered by how impossibly ridiculous some of these spacecrafts work.
@@jeffreytan2948 I think in Ep 1, 2, 3 we are seeing the apogee and pedigree of technology ( newer, less used ). Ep. 4, 5, 6 is twenty years later, things start to look grungy. Even in Rogue One things look repaired. The sequels, TFA definitely has a broken look to all of the planet-side wrecks. I kind think of how a brand new car is like compared to a three owner, 17 year old car.
"I was furious when they killed Han Solo. Absolutely, positively there was no rhyme or reason to it. I thought; You don’t get the Jedi story. You don’t get the magic of Star Wars. They killed Han Solo. They killed Luke Skywalker. And they don’t have Princess Leia anymore. It sucks. The storylines are terrible. Just terrible. Awful." - Marcia Lucas
Many classic films had feminine influences. However, they were encased within a masculine framework. Feminists like KK are too "Ms.-Guided" to understand this.
KK sees and promotes herself as the spokes...woman for all women which is her hubris. She's egotistical to think that all women want to follow her but she is not humble enough to actually let them stand with her as (creative) equals. It's such a horrible, mean girl esq dynamic she's built and is holding onto.
Classic Hollywood writers wrote with the ultimate goal of filling as many theater seats as possible. They wrote for the audience. Writers in this era of crap create a never ending series of lectures on the evils of straight white males. They don't need no man, knowledge of technology or evidently a coherent story line. George Lucas created a force that was totally devoid of sexual orientation, there is nothing more inclusive that. Of course that had to change to fit the new Kennedy narrative. So they got what they wanted a Star Wars that is not entertaining and appeals to an audience that is a fraction of what it used to be.
Spot on about the gear porn. Couldn't quite put my finger on why most of Disney Star Wars doesn't feel like Star Wars aesthetically. That makes total sense now that you mention it. It's missing the spaceship stuff. This is probably a huge reason why Rogue One feels more like Star Wars.
When women are skilled and they don't obsess over identity politics they can do a great job, but the best examples I can think of have always been a collaborative effort. George Lucas tried to take credit for everything about the original starwars movies, but in actuality, his wife rewrote a lot of his original writing, which was clunky and amateurish. We saw some of this when he had full control in the prequels. So yeah I'm not opposed to women helping... but not controlling. Especially not in the age of woke obsessive women.
A lot of people were responsible for the first two movies being great. You could see Lucas had much more freedom in Return of the Jedi. Then....the prequels...my god....those were so bad. I would argue KK is tge exact extension of Lucas.
and a woman wrote the first draft of Empire before dying of cancer, thus handing it off to Lucas and Kasdan. Disney Star Wars however, has 99% been written by MEN.
I am fascinated by how bad storytelling has become. Foundational elements are (frequently) missing. I suspect modern writers consider themselves "true artists" and so are unwilling to do the sausage grinding necessary to make a structurally sound decent story, and instead they write what they feel... like bad fan fic authors.
There is nothing meritocratic about hollywood anymore. It's a bunch of friends and friends-of-friends smelling eachothers farts and complimenting eachother for the wonderful liquid farts they have projected onto movie/tv/computer/phone screens for their customers to enjoy. It looks and feels like a self-sustaining closed cult of idiots and lunatics.
I don't think I've ever in my life seen such an unmitigated display of misogynistic toxic masculinity. probably some other -isms and -phobs there as well. I'm still literally shaking. Thank you for your courage sir. The courage to tell the truth.
I love your tee-shirt. But I loved School house rock. Thanks for that memory. It made me smile. By the way you are spot on with the opinion in this vid.
@@24framedavinci39 Point taken. And fair enough. Not meant as a curse, rather a complement that if men like him populated such positions the rest of us and the world as a whole would be better off.
Office lunchrooms flying through space, you nailed it. Marcia Lucas wanted to make Star Wars a good movie, as opposed to making a show based in the Star Wars universe.
You actually remind me... In the 80's everyone of my age range knew the class of starship in 4-6. X, Y, A and the new B wings... Comparing capital class ships and even how many decks a Star Destroyer had... ahhh... the days.
There's a reason for all of this. Disney is one of the most efficient corporation in America... "Pink Money" is a real thing. Couples who don't have kids and are usually educated... LGBTQ people have money.
@@gumnut6922 Well Jedis are wizards not? I liked Acolyte Ep1 and 2. Witches and a different view on the force is interesting. Also interesting the witches against the Jedi and the Jedi being the bad guys (and I'm an old fan like I saw the OT in theater lol)
@@lunarmodule6419 Hmmm wizards & witches in historical sense use spells & incantations for their powers ~ hence the "power of manyyyyyy" tosh. Not the same thing, and I dare say a corruption of the original story. The force has its story, its been explained before. They're reinventing the wheel due to having zero original ideas or storylines. This is why the negative reaction is how it is. The figures speak loud enough for themselves, go woke go broke.
I stopped seeing Star Wars after I came out of a cinema with my son who complained that all they were doing was killing off the original characters that he loved and wanted to see. I said ok we won't go and see the next one, I am sure we can find some thing else to do. It was an easy call as I had reached the point where I had given up hope of actually seeing some thing I liked.
You shouldn't use terms like 'women' on people who can't define what a 'woman' is. =) Thank you for continuing to say what the rest of us constantly feel about these things. I just wish it _didn't need_ to be said in the first place. =(
I mentioned the Gear Pron scenes to my wife. She says she enjoys them. I mentioned James Bond and John Wick scenes as reference. She understands it's showing them preparing and what they'll use, how, and why. It gives logic to some absurdity. She wants to write her own book. I hope to spur her on or help her get started.
The best thing George Lucas ever did was allowed the expanded universe to exist next to his movie canon. When on fell, the other picked up the other in solidarity. When the warning signs of failure were finger painted on the wall when Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy ended the expanded universe from high orbit.
EU is not Canon and Lucas never acknowledged it as such. He cherrypicked from the EU all the time. You complaining Disney doing it is being mentally handicapped on your end.
@@kaygee2121 saying that it is the fault of women is folly. Blanket statements like this should be hate speech. Pablo hidalgo, kk and Leslie h. Are responsible for this crap.
And these “geek” franchises have ALWAYS had female fans who liked them precisely BECAUSE of their geekiness rather than in spite of it! The third-wave feminists get a hold of them, turn heroes’ journeys into low-stakes soap operas, and manage to lose even the few and dedicated female fans. The ultimate irony is that the writers- despite their continual attempts to subvert gender norms- only end up stereotyping their own female audiences.
@@jimluebke3869 My favorite comment about The Rings of Power- “The Lord of the Rings was written a man who had witnessed the horrors of WWI firsthands. The Rings of Power was written by women whose defining tragedy is that a guy once told them they‘d be prettier if they smiled more.”
This man has actually made a point on how the male mind works and why Star Wars worked so good with us because of that, I have not heard this elsewhere and I think it needs to. Liked and subscribed!
This is true. I think Star Wars had a progressive subtext from the beginning. But it was through allegory; it wasn’t shoved down anyone’s throat. Movies and television shows now come off so heavy handed that they piss off the audience. Nobody wants to be preached to or insulted
Let's assume Chato is exaggerating for effect. Hollywood isn't overrun with female writers and producers who also happen to be science nerds. Although there is Kathryn Bigelow, who would have no problem directing Star Wars films of interest to men (she directed The Hurt Locker and Strange Days, among others)..
Nah they aren't very good. There's a few out there ( I can't name any though), but most of them have almost identical prose. The way characters interact and talk to one another is written in the exact same way modern people do, which is really dumb if you're trying to create an immersive story.
Maybe having a woman and man writer working together on mass-culture media projects would be good. Somewhere (darkhorse) I heard a quote from a CEO that having men and women work together made products take longer, but the product was usually better. Maybe that's the approach.... and at least it would slow down the firehose of crap we are getting from D+ Star Wars
Anyone who has been married to a female KNOWS......what this man said is 1000 % correct. Women and men have different priorities and boy howdy.....is that on display with Star Wars.
My wife watches a show called “Snapped”. The show consists of stories of women who murdered their husbands. One night, I saw her taking notes and I am afraid to say that I sleep with one eye open!
Exactly! The women had their chance with Star Wars and they failed spectacularly. Now it’s time to let the men back in charge like they should have been all along (and no Dave Filoni and Pablo Hidalgo and the others there are not men).
Boys and girls just play differently. And that’s okay. What’s not okay is one group taking control of the other groups toys and grinding them into the ground. And it’s not a “both sides” thing. You don’t see “bronies” demanding My Little Pony become a masculine Lone Ranger type brand. Or that Barbie be more like GIJoe.
Star Wars was about a boy becoming a man and taking on the responsibilities of being a man. Women will never understand that and they don't want to understand that. They have no incentive to understand that. They have inherit value in simply existing, because they grow and nurture the children of humanity. Men don't have this and never will. We must create our value. It's the core of the hero's journey. Aragorn, Frodo, Sam, Luke, Han, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Harry, Simba, Aladdin, Ben-Hur, Rick Blaine, Bond, Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, John McClain, Marty McFly. The list goes on and on since humans were telling stories to each other.
I wouldn't say it was about becoming a man, because Luke already had a life ahead of him as a moisture farmer like his uncle. To me, Star Wars is about moral responsibility, period. Luke and Leia are equally involved in overcoming evil, and as the story begins, she's already deep into in. People always talk about the sequels ruining Han and Luke, but rarely mentioned is that it also ruined Leia. After all her struggles, she deserved to be Chancellor of the New Republic - not still fighting against what was basically the Empire. The sequels tell us that she achieved nothing, and imply that she was also a bad mother to her son.
Women have our own coming-of-age stories that tend to involve more introspection and romance. Examples include _Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, Little Women, Anne of Green Gables, Peter Pan_ (Wendy is the one who grows during the story, not Peter), _The Sound of Music, Labyrinth_ , and _Howl's Moving Castle_ (the book much more than the anime). I can think of no more recent examples. Twilight is an anti-coming-of-age wish fulfillment story, the protagonist of Hunger Games might as well be male, and everything since has been so agenda-driven that it no longer follows a discernable archetypal pattern.
Ok. You repeteadly explained why women fail at making movies for male audiences, and I agree. Furthermore, we have seen how these products are failing miserably and generating ridiculous losses for the studios. So why then, Paul, are they still doing it? As a former TV executive, why do you think these companies seem willing to keep loosing money?
I'm not against women making Star Wars, I'm against woke women, who don't understand the lore and mythology, and intentionally destroy it, that have been given the keys to the saga. Ban those women from the saga, and hire women (and men) who understand the saga (and writing, in general).
While I understand that Chato is being somewhat facetious, I would still like to point out that the editing of Lucas' wife helped make the first movie a success. Also, AC Crispin wrote the great Han Solo trilogy and Barbara Hambly authored "Children of the Jedi." Also, while not up to her Forgotten Realms work, Elaine Cunningham wrote a solid New Jedi Order novel as well.
"Star Wars sold more merch than any other franchise in history. That business has been killed off because the new movies and streaming efforts provide nothing of interest to sell." *Unfortunately the damage done* to Star Wars is greater than a few unsold lines of toys. Now the legacy, the fabric, the very beating heart of Star Wars has been ripped from the chest of the franchise - still pumping fluid out like crazy even as the corpse of the franchise spasms in agony.
also don't forget that Rey could pilot a boat in a huge storm that even the locals who own the boats wouldn't be able to. And that is even though she was from a desert planet and probably never even saw that much water (or a boat) in her life. Go Girl Boss!! Also, love the SH Rock shirt!
Chato, AZ, Nerdrotic and many others have given me many hours of laughter for many years. Not Star Wars, Star Trek or all the other girl boss infiltrated brands. Saves money too.
Easier to ban myself from watching 'new' Star Wars.
"New" Star Wars reminds me of "New" coke back in the day. Both were failures. Know your customers is a forgotten axiom. No wonder Capitalism is falling apart.
"New" Star Wars is a Girl's Brand. No smelly boys allowed. - Disney Management
@@shauny2285 WW. Not world war or wonder woman. Woke & Woman. That's what's ruining business/capitalism.
If we all do this, it actually may work. Banned myself long time ago... When episode 7 was only a rumor. I was in high school and i was in love with galaxy far far away for a few years at that moment. Still love it) But I can't forget that strange feeling i got that day I first time heard of episode 7 and Disney. It felt like something punched me in a head. But I never regret of left only 6 movies and few videogames for me and left all new things out of my interests. Now i know how right i was.
@@Allex_0.9 Stuff like Rogue One and the animated series are great. The sequels and the streaming stuff though.....I love seeing Ahsoka, but they could've done much better, and the mandalorian stuff too. But they could've done better
“Kathleen Kennedy, our favorite female Death Star”. Epic quote!
At this point I think KK has a huge grudge against George Lucas and Steven Spielberg . Maybe they made her get one to many coffees.
I think Kathy not only holds a massive grudge against George and Steven but used to give them "special" services not included with the price of each coffee but totally filmed while doing them... For personal use and other blackmail purposes... Of course!
@@colorin81coloradoshe would be implicating herself as well if she released those alledged tapes.
@@JohnS-il1dr Yeah, but we all know she'd be seen as the poor wittle victim who was abused by those mean white males. Muh power dynamics!
@@colorin81colorado I actually think she would mess that up too.
I think she lost her mind at least 2 decades ago.
"Poisoning a man is exactly what a woman knows what other women want to see"
I lost it 😆
I recently rewatched Empire and came to a realization- there is more "tech" stuff happening between luke falling from bespine to when he is recued by lando than I remember in all of disneywars. The antennas, hatches, hydraulics, the lift and hatch on the falcon.. that stuff is just gone, or if its there is is just weightless and fake.
That's because the new movies and shows are not sci-fi at all. They don't have any scifi "science" or engineering because the women making the movies and shows didn't even think about that part of the genre or the reality they're trying to portray. It doesn't come naturally to them and they don't understand what draws boys and men (and some women) to for example scifi. They rewrote everything into an emotional soap opera because that's what they want and that's all they understand. I know there are women who do understand scifi and love it, but it seems that none of them ended up at Lucasfilm or Disney. It's disheartening.
It's because women aren't interested in things or how stuff works. They are into people and emotions.
Even in the prequels, you have Anakin who is a tinkerer. He worked on the podracer, worked on C-3PO, who had no shell to begin with and had all of his mechanics exposed, he loved vehicles and starships. Those movies are filled to the brim with such things. The lightsabers are distinct and express their individual personalities. Etc.
well... they made lightsabers that went out... which might reflect their real life ability to handle technology. (yeah I know a lot of females that are great with tech, but not those meddling with Star wars)
I too recently pallet cleansed with the OG trilogy (had to remind myself why I liked this series at all). That is an excellent observation. What also struck me while rewatching is how handy Luke is in all three films. The force truly is his *ally*, not his master. He uses tech, blasters, rocks, whatever he can get his hands on when things go wrong. Most of all he uses his brain to get out of tricky situations. Disney Wars is far too force-reliant, which also makes it into an Achilles heel of sorts as they allow their enemies to define what a Jedi is or is not for them. If they are incapacitated or lose their lightsabers, they basically die. That's one of the many reasons why I love OG Luke and reject anything that came after.
Toss in Marvel movies too.
The heroes journey doesn't exist anymore. Power-girls are just born with the gift of being awesome at everything. They've completely embraced the villain. There is no good/evil anymore, everything is subjective, personal and must be viewed through a progressive 21st century presentist lens.
The problem is that they don't realize that girls have their own story journey, best explored in something like Beauty and the Beast, that they are supposed to go through. Men build and defend places and things. Women build and nurture people. Society is failing, in large part, because modern women haven't been trained to do their job.
These franchises are 100% masculine.
They're about wars, combats, and fights.
Women are not warriors or soldiers who can defeat men.
It’s a reflection of the postmodern ideology that has taken hold of the “intellectuals”.
@@JoJo-vg8dz It's a heck of a lot deeper than just the action... it's also the motives which result in the action.
Personal survival, as a motive, is "fine"... it's just "meh"... because we all do it every day when we get up to go to work.
The hero's journey isn't about personal benefit... it's about doing what is right BECAUSE it's right... and because it benefits OTHER people.
This new stuff is usually just selfish... personal gain... and that very much includes the stated comments from the people behind the shows.
@@bjornskivids and this is why they utterly fail as shows. There are no stakes, no drama.
Those women are destroying Star Wars from spite
I keep calling the show "the act of spite"....maybe somebody will recognize my genius some day and use it. I know!!! I got it!
I'm a black lesbian!
Now they have to use it.
*have destroyed
Oh for sure
Maybe it's penis envy.
they had lesbian space witches getting pregnant from the Force, yet kathleen said The Force is female.
That's not how biology works, kathy. =)
or sheer incompetence
This level of cultural vandalism should be considered a crime. Never before in history has such utter incompetence been rewarded this highly. Kathleen Kennedy must have some serious dirt on people to still have a job.
Star Wars fails because the male power fantasy is not the same as the female power fantasy. We have forgotten as a society what toymakers have known all along.
it failed because Kathy want's to destroy George....she lied to him
@@Designsecrets No, she wanted to show the world that she's better that George. She wanted to usurp his legacy, and mangling it until it was so unrecognizable that everyone would cheer for her. Problem is, the only people cheering for KK are the voices in her head.
Most women do not identify with Kathleen Kennedy's power fantasy. We identify with female characters who act like women, and like male characters who are allowed to be brave, charismatic, and handsome.
Doll play.
These thoughts are now forbidden by decree of Klaus Schwab have a nice day and be happy.
I do think you're onto something. I've worked in several female led businesses, where all ideas are not examined or evaluated, they are immediately labelled 'disruptive' or 'revolutionary' despite if you examined them (and often post mortemed the result) they were flawed and bad from the outset. But to examine or question them you are labelled 'negative'. There is a current culture where all ideas and opinions are valid (they are not - this is why we have experts) and all ideas have to be celebrated with pats on the back. This is why when disney projects fail to resonate with audiences they genuinely don't understand why. They are shrouded and blinded by this bubble of positivity "we all thought it was amazing" etc.
Thank god someone finally said it.
It’s happening in gaming too.
They can’t expect us to care about “misogyny” when they haven’t given a damn about “misandry” since day one.
It goes both ways.
Neither of these things actually exist in the ways the terms are used today. Much like most claims of sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. they've lost their intended meanings and have instead become synonymous with behaviors previous generations would have simple called 'being an asshole'. By permitting people to place that under the guise of political or socially motivated grievance, we give it far more power or credit than it deserves.
How dare you assume the genders of everyone in society, you transphobe!
@@KatallinaVT I think a big part of the problem is that people don't even agree about the definition of "asshole behavior" any longer. Our culture is fracturing into separate bubbles. Some people are mortally offended by misgendering or using the wrong pronoun and a lot bigger number of people don't even see a problem with using "he" for a biological male. Values and traditions are becoming fluid and free for anyone to interpret as they please. One person's asshole is another person's freedom fighter or social activist or whatever.
@@KatallinaVT I think the writers of star wars are actual misandrists though (had to google that). It's third wave feminism. However, I agree with you that these ism-terms are thrown around loosely these days. Often falsely. By the way, I wrote star wars in small caps because it lost my respect.
@@janklaassen6404 There are no waves of feminism, there are only stages of completion. The fact that it takes several generations to subvert a culture does not mean that doing so wasn't the original goal. The only form of regret ever expressed on the matter was from 70's feminists who could see that the next generation was making a huge mistake by openly hating men, which would cause men to finally stop serving women. Those women understood that the way to play men is to say "This is good for women and will make us happy."
The gold mine of Star Wars was the merchandising, which was mostly boys buying toys. Girls were never going to buy as many toys as boys do if they made SW a girl focused brand, even if Disney hadn't hadn't screwed it up. Such malpractice, from the very beginning.
And for all the adult men mocking the lesbian space witches, no one’s asking what should be the obvious question… would 10-year-olds think lesbian space witches are cool? This is a property that's supposed to be primarily for children after all, so are any kids nagging their parents for a lesbian space witch doll?
I think they primarily thought girls and women would buy clothes and costumes and accessories and cosplay props more than action figures
I think you underestimate how much Disney can make by selling clothes and accessories to girls and women. Rey Halloween costumes are a much more important metric than Rey action figures for gauging their success. Children out grow clothing over time and their favorite T-shirts need to be replaced. If Disney could keep the franchise going they could cash in every back to school season, year after year
The coven of witches weren’t lesbians.
I'm still trying to find myself a "Spaceballs: the Flamethrower" ....
Since they have turned Star Wars into a joke parody Spaceballs 2 needs to go in the opposite direction and make an epic movie of legendary status.
Never gonna happen. Spaceballs Too will be another Ghostbusters 2016. Not funny in the slightest. Hollywood fired all the good comedy writers and hired talentless hacks to replace them.
"Colonel Sanders?"
"Yes, my lord?"
"I need lesbians."
"We all do, sir."
"No, no, I mean to win the war. We need lesbians in order to win the war! Get me... some lesbians! Lots of lesbians!"
Considering that History of the World Part 2 starred a who's who of woke "comedians", I hope Spaceballs 2 doesn't follow that pattern. ☹
@@EamonThePhilogynistWalford I had to google it, but there really is a History of the world Part 2...and apparently it sucks, go figure. Never going to watch Spaceballs2, I sa the first film in the cinema when it came out, and I'll leave it at that.
I want Spaceballs The Flamethrower. Anything that gets me one is acceptable.
Ban activists from using entertainment as propaganda.
No WOMEN
@@darrinEH but they are so nice to look at....
Before ComicsGaet, before GamerGaet, "Sad Puppies" tried, a decade ago when the headwaters of our culture started being deliberately polluted.
"Preachy message-fic is the leading cause of sadness in puppies" was their slogan, as they tried to overturn the activist domination of Science Fiction's Hugo awards. Sadly, they failed.
This was the first skirmish of the Franchise Wars, and the forces of good lost catastrophically.
So no Casablanca, Modern Times, The Great Dictator, Exodus, Ten Commandments, Apocalypse Now, MASH, Catch 22, It's a Wonderful Life, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Meet John Doe, Grapes of Wrath, Young Abraham Lincoln,.....
Wow, Google is unhappy that their activists' propaganda is being called propaganda, and ever more upset that people are seeing it as such.
They've been poisoning the headwaters of culture for over a decade now, starting with Sad Puppies (motto - "Preachy Message-Fic is the leading cause of sadness in puppies") and going through a bunch of "scandals" ending in "-gate" that we're never supposed to mention again.
Their argument? "It's our turn now".
Our counter-argument? "It's been your turn for over a decade at this point, and it's been a disaster. Time for someone else to have a turn again."
J.K. Rowling CREATED Harry Potter. Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson were plucked from youthful obscurity to be made stars and after two or three movies they started to actually act. Yet the two actors somehow think they are now smarter than the WOMAN who made them famous and call out Rowling for her most sane, sensible stands supporting WOMEN over men who want to be women. Isn’t giving men who want to be women preferential treatment over biological women a perverse perpetuation of the patriarchy?
Fortunately Emma's career died.
Maybe shell have a 2 minute cameo as a junkie in a Harry Potter legacy sequel.
In fairness there's a lot of pressure to conform in Hollywood. If they want to work they have to toe the line. Rowling has a bit more of the FAFO money if people try and pressure her:).
@@somethingclever8916 They tried so hard to make her a thing with the Beauty and the Beast remake. She was horrendously miscast.
I have no sympathy for Rowling. She is a feminist. Leftists and feminists created this DEI monster. They just never thought it would come for them. Big mistake.
@@somethingclever8916 She's doing GREAT! She's got her own vanity gin! ;-P
Excellent points. Never thought of it that way. Always knew something was missing, other than a good story, but just couldn't put my finger on it. Thank you sir.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don't think you have to worry about your wife, Paul... unless you catch her taking notes.
I'll never forget when Steven Spielberg made a speech in front of Kathleen Kennedy, wanting to thank 3 people of whom without them Indiana Jones wouldn't be the success it is;
1. George Lucas - the creator
2. Harrison Ford - the actor
And when he got to the third person, Kathleen got ready to come forward thinking it was her, then Spielberg announced;
3. John Williams - music composer 😂
#EpicBurn 😂
I prefer to ban BAD, ARROGANT WOMEN from making Star Wars. If a woman is competent, and is a fan of George Lucas' work, and dosen't hate the actual fans of Star Wars, then she is more than welcome to work on the franchise in my eyes.
This here is exactly why I resent KK and the other one for doing this to Star Wars. All women are suddenly being blamed for the state Star Wars is in. We never asked for this garbage, and these people are certainly not the pinnacle of female filmographic capabilty. Also, Carrie Fisher was a well respected script editor.
When men create garbage it's never all men's fault, so OP is just proving everyone right by outing himself & his fans as the sexists that they are.
Content like this is why I subscribed to this channel many moons ago.
Generally men are interested in things, women are interested in people. With exceptions, of course, but everyone knows this. I don't know where this trope of female tinkerers and mechanics in movies, TV and video games came from, but i've never seen a women in an auto shop.
Glad you mentioned D.C. Fontana too. She's a legend and i'd happily watch anything written by someone of her calibre.
You can fix Rey's "fixing the Falcon" with one line of dialog, maybe two: "I just replaced parts that looked broken, with parts that didn't look broken." For those slow on the uptake: "For the last ten years, my dinner depended on being able to tell the difference, so I've got a knack for it."
This is set up nicely in previous scenes where she trades various-quality scrap for varying amounts of food, and in turn sets up the idea that this "knack" is from the Force.
It also helps that this is what actual field repairs on military equipment are like. Not a chance in h**l that anyone on that production team knew that, or if they did, felt like they could speak up about their real-world expertise.
I don't think it's about gender, but rather about competence and respect for the work.
Neither compentence nor respect seem prevalent in the current crop of content creators over at Disney though. Ah well, no longer any skin of my back, I quit cold turkey quite a while ago - and have therefore re-discovered my joy of reading, socialising and going for walks.
Floating office lunchroom. Great line.
Thanks.
Such beauty in the first Iron Man to see him build his cave suit and then see him tinker and learn to use his final suit.
I love the direction KK has taken Star Wars. The more slop she pushes through, the more money Disney loses. The more the mouse loses, the lesser its influence.
Star Wars ended when the franchise was sold. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
It's called star wars.
Not safe space: emotional support group.
They forgot the war part.
And they are forgetting the tech part.
Well "horny blondy Jedi" was stabbed 3 times and "Zoolander Jedi" had his neck snapped... That no wishy-washy stuff lol. Even old fart me was shocked.
And women don't fight in wars.
It's just a lesbian power trip.
These ridiculous female warriors and fighters who beat men in combat in every new movie don't exist IRL.
"It's called star wars. Not safe space: emotional support group."
then when will u stop crying? olollo
@@JoJo-vg8dz In the real world a bunch of buff male soldiers would have clocked all of these women and the acolyte series would have ended with the first episode. It's just delusional to try to pretend that women can do everything men can do and do it in fact better. (Men can't do everything women can or not as well. This goes both ways. Complementing eachother etc.)
They completely forgot the heroes... and what heroes (and heroines) actually are.
In fact, they threw the actual heroes under the proverbial bus back in TLJ.
Star Wars OT:
Obi-wan... being a hero at the Death Star.
Luke... becoming a Jedi, not for himself, but to help/rescue his friends, and later redeem Vader
Leia... being a heroic leader to restore freedom... for everyone, not just her own personal survival. (similar to Sarah Connor)
Han Solo - switching from personal survival mode to being a hero, like when he risks himself to rescue Luke in ESB... and be Luke's wingman at the Death Star in ANH.
What's this new stuff from The Rot Dismal Company?
Destroy Luke to replace him with Rey... and what, really, is Rey's motive? HOW do they destroy Luke? Reputation destruction, favorite tactic of guess-who.
Destroy Indy, to replace him with PWB... who is just... greedy? Selfish? Girlboss.
The new Snow White... NOT going to be rescued by a man... because she's... got SELFISH goals of her own and doesn't need a man.
The new Little Mermaid... personal gain.
The new Wendy (and Peter Pan)... all about Girl Bossing...
She-Hulk... personal gain.
The Acolyte... personal revenge? Having and using power... to do what he wants with it? "It's about who is allowed to have power..." according to the female star of the show.
Wanda in WandaVision... what Wanda wants... which just happens to be Vision. There's nothing wrong with what she wants, just that it's for herself.
The new SW show/movie, directed by that Obaid-Chinoy person... "I like to make men uncomfortable"... translation, spite, aka, "chip on shoulder".
When Lucas and Spielberg were creating, they were trying to capture the wonders and imagination they experienced as wide-eyed children. Kennedy et. al. (meaning the DEI gang) seem preoccupied with dragging down everyone into a kind of existential misery, like a tired parent determined to crush creativity in their children in the name of practicality.
Your observation about gear porn is more important the more I realize that its lack is part of what is killing pop culture for me. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy was Peter Jackson showcasing New Zealand artisans and craftsmen who worked like maniacs to provide the extras with workable, thematically correct armour. Every scene was constructed with love, hard work, dedication and skill. You could feel the love. The Rings of Power was half a dozen girlbosses designing soldier costumes and emailing the 3d printer. No care, no love, no more important than the plastic flowers in a cubicle farm. Aggressive, feminine disinterest in the nuts and bolts that make our world work is probably the one thing that truly gets under my skin about the woke.
"The Force is male?"
"Always has been Paul, always has been."
Love the School House Rock T!
I noticed immediately. I still hum some of the songs to myself on occasion.
@adreanmarantz2103 I play them at gigs and they KILL!
Vice Admiral Holdo was a very unpopular character because she unprofessionally treated a war hero like a child.
Seeing palettes of Admiral Holdo dolls on the shelves at Ollie’s always reminds me of the Lisa Lionheart episode of the Simpsons. The only difference is the Lisa Lionheart doll inspired one girl at the very end, and Admiral Holdo inspires no one.
And let's not forget how she makes the whole side quest that Po, Finn, and I think the girl's name was Rose, went on is made pointless by her actions. We didn't even get a scene where the senior command staff discussed the possibility that rather than The First Order having some sort of tracker capable of following hyoer-space jumps, there was a traitor on board transmitting their new location upon exit, so there was absolutely no reason to not tell the people whose lives she is entrusted with as acting supreme commander of the Resistance forces that she does in fact have a plan. Good guys aren't supposed to blindly obey orders without question and Po deciding on mutiny after his leaders refuse to tell him they have a plan is rather reasonable as a result.
I kind of felt the opposite, and thought it odd that she didn’t make much of an act of gross insubordination that cost lives, even if it got them a (pointless) win. Dude should have ended up in the brig stripped of rank.
No it’s because she was a cotton candy haired ho..hypocrite.
She knew Poe (had to look up his name because I forgot, that’s how much so don’t care) was right and the best , despite disobeying her orders.
Instead of being honest with him or letting/ telling him what to do she had to be “a strong independent female” and reprimand, emasculate him .
Oh wait , we’re not there yet .
Then THEN after berating him, Leia say “I like him” and Holdo responds “So DO I” hehehe 🤭 WTF !
And then Admiral Representation goes and “sacrifices” herself in a ridiculous move which really didn’t do much in the long run.
So Stunning, Brave and Bold.
She was a "toxic" leader, she ignored her subordinates, she was arrogant, seen her type so many times in the military
Spot on as usual, Mr. Chato.
It's not about gender it's about hiring talentless activists instead of passionate fans. They are more concerned about checking boxes and inserting "THE MESSAGE" than making anything faithful to the franchise. Ban woke.
Someone has to say it. Thanks for taking the lead.
It’s stupid as hell.
As a kid I had multiple Star Wars action figures and equipment. It immersed me into that universe. It was more than play, it was becoming a Jedi. There is no way any of these women had those toys. Understand the love that went into learning all the nuisances of three of the greatest movies ever made. Their fan fiction is rooted in their experience, not the experience of Star Wars.
Women did a lot on Star Wars in the old EU and did it well. They just weren't...these women. Karen Traviss, former war reporter and writer of Gears of War 3, created the very popular Mandalorian culture (that Filoni threw out except when he doesn't) and a lot of women did a lot behind the scenes in steering the whole ship.
Yet they can't just call out Hollyweird in general...they have to blame women (as always).
@@kaygee2121 These sorts of girls have bene ruining things for us nerdy women since middle school and I guess they're just going to keep doing it, with exactly the same attitude. Their gift for making men hostile to us is the same, too.
The trouble is that Kathleen Kennedy and her crowd of activists is that they can only make one movie. No matter what franchise they are leeching off, they produce the same thing - the Southpark "Put a chick in it, make her gay and lame". It's boring. It's not wanted by audiences. But here we are again and again.
It's not the chromesomes, it's the spite. The people being chosen to create this stuff have a gigantic chip on their shoulder against the old audience. Take away the spite, the other issues (writing quality, respect for the source) would be corrrected by more competent people.
Can't take away the spite, nothing would be left.
No, it's the chromosomes. Other than a few soyboys, the writers, producers, casting agents, and marketing executives that have wrecked this beloved franchise have been exclusively women. The spite to which you refer is driven by a pathological hatred, specific to radical feminists, for a story that celebrates male virtues of heroism and sacrifice, and is beloved by men of all ages and cultures.
The spite is _who they are._
It's the chromosomes, too.
XY evolved to self-sacrifice for the benefit of XX and kids... not always, but VERY commonly.
XY has always been expendable. (cannon fodder, for example)
XX evolved to... receive benefits. (food, shelter, protection, etc)
The spite comes from jealousy, greed, envy... XY has something (a successful franchise), and the XX wants to take it over... take it from the XY.
It isn't just in the show/movie script... it's in the words that come out of their mouths in real life... and in their DNA.
The new show runners were very specifically tasked with making an old brand SW popular with a new younger audience. The reason behind this is the fact that young people mostly girls and women spend a disproportionate amount of money on merchandise. It really is all about the money
In case you haven't noticed, the average female does have a gigantic chip on her shoulder against men. The proof of this is that any female-lead project or community is full of hostility toward men.
Geez, it's about time someone said it. Just goes to show you how tolerant we actually are with the women involved in Star Wars.
Sadly, men in Hollywood aren't much better these days. Thus the real problem is more Hollywood than women.
That point was buried in there.
@@CallMeChato It was buried really, really deep, then.
I would not even call them men anymore.
@@rienjen He dissed Zack Snyder.
@@dermagnus8482 Proto-males majoring in Simpology.
One of the things that drew me to the original Star Wars when I first saw it in theaters were the depiction of grit, dirt , exposed machinery and general wear and tear on spacecraft, fighters, droids, star ships etc. like you know in the real world. Sadly that is sorely lacking in recent Star Wars or even the prequel trilogy. Now everything is brand spanking new and we can't be bothered by how impossibly ridiculous some of these spacecrafts work.
@@jeffreytan2948 I think in Ep 1, 2, 3 we are seeing the apogee and pedigree of technology ( newer, less used ). Ep. 4, 5, 6 is twenty years later, things start to look grungy. Even in Rogue One things look repaired. The sequels, TFA definitely has a broken look to all of the planet-side wrecks. I kind think of how a brand new car is like compared to a three owner, 17 year old car.
"I was furious when they killed Han Solo. Absolutely, positively there was no rhyme or reason to it. I thought; You don’t get the Jedi story. You don’t get the magic of Star Wars. They killed Han Solo. They killed Luke Skywalker. And they don’t have Princess Leia anymore. It sucks. The storylines are terrible. Just terrible. Awful." - Marcia Lucas
Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to be killed
Many classic films had feminine influences. However, they were encased within a masculine framework. Feminists like KK are too "Ms.-Guided" to understand this.
KK sees and promotes herself as the spokes...woman for all women which is her hubris.
She's egotistical to think that all women want to follow her but she is not humble enough to actually let them stand with her as (creative) equals. It's such a horrible, mean girl esq dynamic she's built and is holding onto.
The Force is Ms.-Guided would be a good edit for her t-shirts. Very slogan-able.
Classic Hollywood writers wrote with the ultimate goal of filling as many theater seats as possible. They wrote for the audience. Writers in this era of crap create a never ending series of lectures on the evils of straight white males. They don't need no man, knowledge of technology or evidently a coherent story line. George Lucas created a force that was totally devoid of sexual orientation, there is nothing more inclusive that. Of course that had to change to fit the new Kennedy narrative. So they got what they wanted a Star Wars that is not entertaining and appeals to an audience that is a fraction of what it used to be.
The framework was selfless, rather than selfish.
Is that because the majority of the audience would inevitably always still be male, perhaps?
Spot on about the gear porn. Couldn't quite put my finger on why most of Disney Star Wars doesn't feel like Star Wars aesthetically. That makes total sense now that you mention it. It's missing the spaceship stuff. This is probably a huge reason why Rogue One feels more like Star Wars.
When women are skilled and they don't obsess over identity politics they can do a great job, but the best examples I can think of have always been a collaborative effort. George Lucas tried to take credit for everything about the original starwars movies, but in actuality, his wife rewrote a lot of his original writing, which was clunky and amateurish. We saw some of this when he had full control in the prequels. So yeah I'm not opposed to women helping... but not controlling. Especially not in the age of woke obsessive women.
A lot of people were responsible for the first two movies being great. You could see Lucas had much more freedom in Return of the Jedi. Then....the prequels...my god....those were so bad. I would argue KK is tge exact extension of Lucas.
Ya but she actually had talent. The people involved today are not talented. They are hired for other reasons
and a woman wrote the first draft of Empire before dying of cancer, thus handing it off to Lucas and Kasdan. Disney Star Wars however, has 99% been written by MEN.
@@domm6812
You do know a lot of that BS right?
JW Rinzler and Marsha herself shot down a lot of that.
I like how you back up your conclusion with rational thinking and observable facts. Women do like different things than men in general.
Preach on, Brother.
They couldn't have produced worse results with random monkey scripts.
Unless... They were female monkey scripts.. just sayin
1000% true. All you have said. Women have no business getting involved in Star Wars.
I am fascinated by how bad storytelling has become. Foundational elements are (frequently) missing. I suspect modern writers consider themselves "true artists" and so are unwilling to do the sausage grinding necessary to make a structurally sound decent story, and instead they write what they feel... like bad fan fic authors.
There is nothing meritocratic about hollywood anymore. It's a bunch of friends and friends-of-friends smelling eachothers farts and complimenting eachother for the wonderful liquid farts they have projected onto movie/tv/computer/phone screens for their customers to enjoy. It looks and feels like a self-sustaining closed cult of idiots and lunatics.
Brilliant analysis. I never thought of it this way, and you're so right.
Bold my friend. Bold! But you’re 100% correct.
I don't think I've ever in my life seen such an unmitigated display of misogynistic toxic masculinity. probably some other -isms and -phobs there as well. I'm still literally shaking. Thank you for your courage sir. The courage to tell the truth.
G'day it's Steven from Down Under
YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH!
"May the Force be with you"
I love your tee-shirt. But I loved School house rock. Thanks for that memory. It made me smile. By the way you are spot on with the opinion in this vid.
Paul, you are an honest stand up guy. Plus, you are funny. You will make a first rate PM.
Why would you wish that upon him? I thought you liked Paul?
@@24framedavinci39 Point taken. And fair enough. Not meant as a curse, rather a complement that if men like him populated such positions the rest of us and the world as a whole would be better off.
I'm tempted to send the writers of Star Wars et al a copy of Ben Bova's "The Craft of Writing Science Fiction that Sells".
Has any recent women writer written a scene like the one where Scotty goes into a Jefferies tube to make a repair while the ship was running.
"This is a Pip Droid. I brought it with me when I left Vault 75."
I agree with you and I fear for you the Borg will get you. I call them the Borg because they are a collective and they have hive mind mentality.
Office lunchrooms flying through space, you nailed it. Marcia Lucas wanted to make Star Wars a good movie, as opposed to making a show based in the Star Wars universe.
Omg you got a SCHOOL HOUSE ROCK shirt!
You actually remind me...
In the 80's everyone of my age range knew the class of starship in 4-6.
X, Y, A and the new B wings...
Comparing capital class ships and even how many decks a Star Destroyer had... ahhh... the days.
I wonder why they don't just start their own universe. Perhaps because anything woke can only leach off what has already been created?
they simply know they would not get anyone to watch it.
There's a reason for all of this. Disney is one of the most efficient corporation in America... "Pink Money" is a real thing. Couples who don't have kids and are usually educated... LGBTQ people have money.
But they did. The "Tinkerbell & Her Wonderful Friends" wonderverse.
@@gumnut6922 Well Jedis are wizards not? I liked Acolyte Ep1 and 2. Witches and a different view on the force is interesting. Also interesting the witches against the Jedi and the Jedi being the bad guys (and I'm an old fan like I saw the OT in theater lol)
@@lunarmodule6419 Hmmm wizards & witches in historical sense use spells & incantations for their powers ~ hence the "power of manyyyyyy" tosh. Not the same thing, and I dare say a corruption of the original story. The force has its story, its been explained before. They're reinventing the wheel due to having zero original ideas or storylines. This is why the negative reaction is how it is. The figures speak loud enough for themselves, go woke go broke.
I stopped seeing Star Wars after I came out of a cinema with my son who complained that all they were doing was killing off the original characters that he loved and wanted to see. I said ok we won't go and see the next one, I am sure we can find some thing else to do. It was an easy call as I had reached the point where I had given up hope of actually seeing some thing I liked.
You shouldn't use terms like 'women' on people who can't define what a 'woman' is. =)
Thank you for continuing to say what the rest of us constantly feel about these things. I just wish it _didn't need_ to be said in the first place. =(
Women?? .... Front Holers Please!!
Sorry
Birthing people!
Inside wanger.
Women arent real. Its menstruators and birthers
Or their indigenous name "walks with two holes"
lol
I mentioned the Gear Pron scenes to my wife. She says she enjoys them. I mentioned James Bond and John Wick scenes as reference. She understands it's showing them preparing and what they'll use, how, and why. It gives logic to some absurdity.
She wants to write her own book. I hope to spur her on or help her get started.
The best thing George Lucas ever did was allowed the expanded universe to exist next to his movie canon.
When on fell, the other picked up the other in solidarity.
When the warning signs of failure were finger painted on the wall when Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy ended the expanded universe from high orbit.
And to this day, current Lucasfilm goes back to EU and cherry picks and retcons whatever they want
@@jdraven0890 exactly.
Which is why current Star wars is in the pits and one quote perfectly describes it:
“APATHY IS DEATH!”
EU is not Canon and Lucas never acknowledged it as such. He cherrypicked from the EU all the time. You complaining Disney doing it is being mentally handicapped on your end.
I will défend women.
These are activists. Not entertainers nor realists nor moneymakers.
Thank you. I'm so tired of the sexism from BOTH sides of the aisle.
The original Star Wars movie was co-produced by a woman, and it came out fine
@@kaygee2121 saying that it is the fault of women is folly. Blanket statements like this should be hate speech.
Pablo hidalgo, kk and Leslie h. Are responsible for this crap.
That was fire. Well constructed and presented, Mr. Chato.
Chato: Ban women from making Star Wars.
Me: Paul woke up today and chose violence.
The ideal Star Wars writing room should have the gender makeup of a typical Computer Science class.
And these “geek” franchises have ALWAYS had female fans who liked them precisely BECAUSE of their geekiness rather than in spite of it! The third-wave feminists get a hold of them, turn heroes’ journeys into low-stakes soap operas, and manage to lose even the few and dedicated female fans. The ultimate irony is that the writers- despite their continual attempts to subvert gender norms- only end up stereotyping their own female audiences.
Throw in some guys with actual military experience, and you're in good shape.
@@jimluebke3869 I'd settle for someone who watched Full Metal Jacket at this point.
@@BerengarLex I see where you're coming from, but considering the current LucasFilm employee lineup, they'd take it exactly the wrong way.
@@jimluebke3869 My favorite comment about The Rings of Power- “The Lord of the Rings was written a man who had witnessed the horrors of WWI firsthands. The Rings of Power was written by women whose defining tragedy is that a guy once told them they‘d be prettier if they smiled more.”
This man has actually made a point on how the male mind works and why Star Wars worked so good with us because of that, I have not heard this elsewhere and I think it needs to. Liked and subscribed!
The one time Disney Star Wars casts a great woman actor that the fans love Disney fires. Because Disney hates the fans!
Kara definately was a highlight of Mando. She actually looked like she could kick ass and she felt like a natural.
she fired herself with awful tweets. she is stupid
I’m old enough to remember when He-man lost viewers because they introduced She-ra princess of power. No little boy thought it was cool.
Women can write SiFi just fine, activism of all kinds from anyone is what needs to be banned from entertainment.
This is true. I think Star Wars had a progressive subtext from the beginning. But it was through allegory; it wasn’t shoved down anyone’s throat. Movies and television shows now come off so heavy handed that they piss off the audience. Nobody wants to be preached to or insulted
uhm... I'm not sure of that. Maybe sci-fi... but not science fiction.
Let's assume Chato is exaggerating for effect. Hollywood isn't overrun with female writers and producers who also happen to be science nerds. Although there is Kathryn Bigelow, who would have no problem directing Star Wars films of interest to men (she directed The Hurt Locker and Strange Days, among others)..
Nah they aren't very good. There's a few out there ( I can't name any though), but most of them have almost identical prose. The way characters interact and talk to one another is written in the exact same way modern people do, which is really dumb if you're trying to create an immersive story.
It's all about "relationships" and " feelings" and "emotions" and "conversations" and other boring stuff.
Maybe having a woman and man writer working together on mass-culture media projects would be good.
Somewhere (darkhorse) I heard a quote from a CEO that having men and women work together made products take longer, but the product was usually better. Maybe that's the approach.... and at least it would slow down the firehose of crap we are getting from D+ Star Wars
Anyone who has been married to a female KNOWS......what this man said is 1000 % correct. Women and men have different priorities and boy howdy.....is that on display with Star Wars.
My wife watches a show called “Snapped”. The show consists of stories of women who murdered their husbands. One night, I saw her taking notes and I am afraid to say that I sleep with one eye open!
Oh dear😮
Exactly! The women had their chance with Star Wars and they failed spectacularly. Now it’s time to let the men back in charge like they should have been all along (and no Dave Filoni and Pablo Hidalgo and the others there are not men).
This is awesome and astute Paul!
As a woman in the business (don't mislabel me bigots) I can confirm this is how it is.
Boys and girls just play differently. And that’s okay. What’s not okay is one group taking control of the other groups toys and grinding them into the ground.
And it’s not a “both sides” thing. You don’t see “bronies” demanding My Little Pony become a masculine Lone Ranger type brand. Or that Barbie be more like GIJoe.
Good points. There are women who love equipment but it is not the ones in the Disney writing staff.
Women will never, ever understand the importance of picking up those power converters in Tosche Station 😎
Thanks!
Thanks again, RH
Star Wars was about a boy becoming a man and taking on the responsibilities of being a man. Women will never understand that and they don't want to understand that. They have no incentive to understand that.
They have inherit value in simply existing, because they grow and nurture the children of humanity. Men don't have this and never will. We must create our value. It's the core of the hero's journey.
Aragorn, Frodo, Sam, Luke, Han, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Harry, Simba, Aladdin, Ben-Hur, Rick Blaine, Bond, Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, John McClain, Marty McFly. The list goes on and on since humans were telling stories to each other.
I wouldn't say it was about becoming a man, because Luke already had a life ahead of him as a moisture farmer like his uncle. To me, Star Wars is about moral responsibility, period. Luke and Leia are equally involved in overcoming evil, and as the story begins, she's already deep into in. People always talk about the sequels ruining Han and Luke, but rarely mentioned is that it also ruined Leia. After all her struggles, she deserved to be Chancellor of the New Republic - not still fighting against what was basically the Empire. The sequels tell us that she achieved nothing, and imply that she was also a bad mother to her son.
Women have our own coming-of-age stories that tend to involve more introspection and romance. Examples include _Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, Little Women, Anne of Green Gables, Peter Pan_ (Wendy is the one who grows during the story, not Peter), _The Sound of Music, Labyrinth_ , and _Howl's Moving Castle_ (the book much more than the anime). I can think of no more recent examples. Twilight is an anti-coming-of-age wish fulfillment story, the protagonist of Hunger Games might as well be male, and everything since has been so agenda-driven that it no longer follows a discernable archetypal pattern.
@@IndyDefense I would say that the moral responsibility is in addition to Luke growing up. You're right about the other characters too. Well said.
@@talithakoum3922 Definately. Thanks for the insight.
@@user-yv4mm6bx3c Thank you 😁
They announced who and what they are and even announced in advance their agenda…..why are so many surprised?
Remember Marcia Lucas? She was the head editor of the Original Trilogy.
That being said, Marcia Lucas was not a woke activist.
Yes I mentioned this. Good reminder.
Ok. You repeteadly explained why women fail at making movies for male audiences, and I agree. Furthermore, we have seen how these products are failing miserably and generating ridiculous losses for the studios. So why then, Paul, are they still doing it? As a former TV executive, why do you think these companies seem willing to keep loosing money?
ESG money is filling the void and they are waiting for the old audience to die off best as I can figure.
I'm not against women making Star Wars, I'm against woke women, who don't understand the lore and mythology, and intentionally destroy it, that have been given the keys to the saga. Ban those women from the saga, and hire women (and men) who understand the saga (and writing, in general).
Hey Call me Chato, your channel is vastly underrated. Your videos are very entertaining, and very accurate. Keep up the good work, well done..
While I understand that Chato is being somewhat facetious, I would still like to point out that the editing of Lucas' wife helped make the first movie a success.
Also, AC Crispin wrote the great Han Solo trilogy and Barbara Hambly authored "Children of the Jedi." Also, while not up to her Forgotten Realms work, Elaine Cunningham wrote a solid New Jedi Order novel as well.
"Star Wars sold more merch than any other franchise in history. That business has been killed off because the new movies and streaming efforts provide nothing of interest to sell."
*Unfortunately the damage done* to Star Wars is greater than a few unsold lines of toys. Now the legacy, the fabric, the very beating heart of Star Wars has been ripped from the chest of the franchise - still pumping fluid out like crazy even as the corpse of the franchise spasms in agony.
also don't forget that Rey could pilot a boat in a huge storm that even the locals who own the boats wouldn't be able to. And that is even though she was from a desert planet and probably never even saw that much water (or a boat) in her life. Go Girl Boss!! Also, love the SH Rock shirt!
Chato, AZ, Nerdrotic and many others have given me many hours of laughter for many years. Not Star Wars, Star Trek or all the other girl boss infiltrated brands. Saves money too.