the people hates raiden, but he defeated the solidus...he's not like snake, i know, but he's "little badass", huh? haha im brazilian, sorry if i'm talking wrong...
Yeah, But I think this is gonna be one of those mysteries that will never be solved. Kinda like how Peter Parker always disappears whenever Spiderman shows up.
Heathen Pride Because he was never really a villain. He wanted to put an end to the Patriots. ALL of the Plant Chapter happened BECAUSE of the Patriots, from the beginning to the very end. The Patriots pinned Solidus and Raiden against each other, due to Raiden's nanomachines being connected to Olga's future child, Sunny. Therefore, in MGS4, keeping Raiden alive was a HUGE priority throughout that whole game, cause upon his death, Sunny would have immediately fell-- I'm digressing from the topic a bit much. Point is, Solidus was never a villain; He was a puppet, a pawn under control of the La li lu le lo, and he wanted to be remembered as the man who put an end to their twisted regime, being remembered as an exon of history instead of an intron.
Heathen Pride The least memorable snake? he sure as hell has the least appereances, so it isn't a fair argument. He really was one of the more memorable villains overall, because of his motivations and this entrance.
Pedro Juan I guess he’s better than Skull Face, but that really isn’t much to brag about. The others, though? Venom Snake, Big Boss, Liquid Snake, Liquid Ocelot, and even The Boss were more interesting, if not compelling. George being an anti-villain is compelling, but aside from the vanilla ass Skull Face I’d still prefer the other villains.
Heathen Pride Well it comes to personal preference really, I never really liked Venom because he felt shoe horned in the lore and had no identity of his own, also him existing never affected the story in any way shape or form, IMO made it worse, more convoluted (if a random unnamed guy can match Big Boss in Skills why not clone him instead? bonus that he most likely can reproduce and there didn't need to be more Snakes) , The Boss wasnt really the main Villain, it was Volgin who's not really a deep character at all, he is a James Bond villain. Solidus was right in most of what he talked about and was the first to opose the greater scope villains that were the patriots, and also had some of the best lines in the series (0:48), he's memorable for that IMO. Also I've heard people talk about how you fight the dual katana wielding expresident elder clone brother of Solid Snake in an exoeskeleton with tentacles who you fight a top of federal hall, when describing MGS.
1:15 I just realized- Solidus’ voice is either really loud or Snake’s hearing is flawless, cuz he was able to convey these words to Snake when there was literally a helicopter adjacent to them
You know one thing I always liked about Solidus Snake's voice is that it seemed to be an amalgamation of Liquid and Solid Snake's voices which makes sense because Solidus was as President James Johnson said "Neither Solid nor Liquid "
1:48 I love how it shows both of their Super soldier abilities. Snake can do headshots easily in a moving helicopter without using the scope, solidus can see and block bullets despite the heavy wind from the helicopter that should be messing up his vision a little.
There's actually a reason for that. Raiden's memory of his past life was altered and suppressed, through implanting his cerebral cortex with a high concentration of nanomachines.
Though you know what's something I find more funny? That Solidus barely recognized Raiden till later, he remembered he did know him somewhere before, but didn't realize or remember who exactly he was till later. Though then again it's been over a decade since he's last seen him, and raiden's grown as well since Solidus last saw him.
I'd have a hard time convincing myself that the terrorist leader used to be the president of the US, who is now armored with an exosuit brandishing tentacle rockets that gets thicc on command.
Honestly the super-powered humans terrified me when I was a kid. Younger me expected this game to be a gritty war game, but as soon I saw vamp killing Navy Seals I was like,”Daddy did you fight a vampire?”
I was sort of the same way with MGS1 when I saw Psycho Mantis and the Ninja. Not scared, but thrown off a bit. I played the demo, which didn't feature any magic realism elements.
@@SuperSayinSolidSnek it's even funnier that in 1960s there was just casually a big, buff, russian guy who could store electricity inside him for no reason except for the fact that he's just "built different"
@@den-lavender for real, like why even make a nuclear tank when you have dudes like this just hanging around. And it's not like he's even the only superhuman person.
We deserved to know more about Solidus. Really a shame they never expanded further on his role in the series or his backstory. All we know is he's the "perfect clone" of Big Boss, served as President, and was involved in the Liberian Civil war in the 90's. Oh and how could I forget that he was heavily involved with Shadow Moses. So interesting yet we never learn more! Is there anything deeper with his lore?
@@juice6521 because like the others, he was designed to grow old way before a normal human. He was in his late twenties when he served as president, when the minimum is 35 but because of his accelerated age, he looks around 60
Kojima didn't intend to continue the series after MGS2. Solidus within his game wasn't any less elaborated upon than Liquid was in his (whose "return" was pretty much not relevant to MGS2's plot and more about playing with the player's expectations combined with Kojima wishing to do more with him with Kojima ultimately regretting the decision anyway). It was MGS4 through Liquid Ocelot and Phantom Pain that gave Liquid much of his post-MGS1 elaboration. Solidus was always tied more strongly to Raiden (who was a polarizing character) than Solid and he was overall something of a third wheel to the Solid/Liquid with Big Boss/Naked team so none for him.
Well he's not. He's referring to Solid Snake since it's him who defeated Big Boss twice. Sure it's revealed to be Venom the first time around but both are Big Boss, and it's not Solidus but Solid who beat them.
@@ArtursOffice Yeah Solidus is badass without a doubt. But not with those lines. He was referring to himself trying to act as if he's Solid Snake, not knowing Solid will appear the next second. The reason why he acted like Solid Snake was because he believed he died in the Tanker which was Snake and Otacon's ruse. So this scene is actually a bit funny with full context because Solidus has to drop the "Surpass the Big Boss" ruse and call himself Solidus again.
3:53 "Raiden! This is the Stinger Missile Launcher. The Kasatka can't stand up to the Harrier! You HAVE to shoot the Harrier down! I'm counting on you!" That turn Raiden does along with the accompanying music make for possibly the biggest "call to action" I've ever seen. This is the best part right here. Harry Gregson-Williams, you brilliant man.
One thing I liked most about Solidus is despite all the fucked up shit he did. You can see that he clearly loves Raiden. It's obviously breaking his heart to have to kill him, but in his view he's saving the whole world from slavery by doing so, and even though he has to kill him to stop the patriots(his life purpose) He can't bear to do it in cold blood and gives Raiden a chance to win. All these things make him the best villain(and possibly character in general) in the whole series.
I mean, he killed Raiden’s parents. I understand what you are saying but love is maybe the wrong word. Perhaps he is obsessed with Raiden because he “created” him
Umm no. Just no. Solidus at best respects Raiden as a soldier. He is ready to kill him but would want Raiden to kill him just as much. They are Emulating the legendary Big Boss vs Solid Snake as Raiden stands as "Solidus' Son". Solidus is a psychopath but he is a product of being a tool from the beginning. He is fighting his fate for his own life. Unlike liquid or Snake, he was already seen as Big Boss' spare while the two could still live as Big Boss successors until the advanced aging would start and the patriots completing their "evolutions" no longer needing the Big Boss' legacy.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f How is Solidus a psychopath lmfao, he doesn't kill without feeling and he definitely isn't doing it for his own enjoyment, he has motivations, dreams, goals, and aspirations, and to say that he doesn't care about Raiden at all (perhaps love is too strong of a word, but he definitely has some tender feelings for him, considering he *did* raise him) is just ridiculous. Like the original commenter said, Solidus doesn't just execute Raiden, he gives him a chance to fight back and win, because it's not just his own feelings that dictate that action, but the fact that according to Solidus' own values, Raiden deserves a chance to prove himself and break out of the shell the Patriots created for him, much like himself and Big Boss' image.
@@theta_clips Solidus Killed the parents of those he chose to train to be killers. No matter the goal, no person in normal capacity gets to do that. He is deeply disturbed. Probably as disturbed as Eli as we see his anger is enough to overpower Psycho mantis as a child. He didn't give Raiden a chance to fight back, there was just no more fight in him. Ocelot betrayed him and the whole big shell incident is a patriot's simulation. Raiden will kill Solidus no matter what since they got Rose and Sunny. Solidus will simply surrender or just finish what he started against Raiden as they mirror the battle in Zanzibar(Snake vs Big Boss). He simply fought as his moment as a "soldier" but there is nothing to it anymore. He was a pawn then, he is still a pawn now. He is also suffering from a faster advanced aging than Snake so he literally had so little to live even if he chose to surrender. His fight was for naught and now he just wants to prove himself that he will at least die a soldier. But in no way is he giving Raiden a chance. They're both "monsters" created by Patriots. Even after Solidus' defeat Raiden felt nothing that everything is just a game until Snake convinced him otherwise.
@Starscream91 Vulcan Raven and President Baker are both dead. Mei Ling is just another member of the military, i doubt she met Snake after the shadow moses incident. i don't know what happens with Meryl after mgs1 but Otacon doesn't look like the kind of guy to reach out to Snake just to tell him that he looks like the president.
@Starscream91 Keep in mind that Solidus look older when POTUS due to the accelerated aging. Plus I think when he was POTUS, he probably had like a thick bread thus people didn't recognize. Solid Snake still looked younger with brown hair in Shadow Moses.
@@StardogChampion06 Plus Solidus is known as the perfect clone of Big Boss and it was complete when Raiden took his eye out as Ocelot mentions when Raiden is captured that he is the spitting image of Big Boss and in MGS 4 they used his body to fool Liquid thinking that he was Big Boss cause the real Big Boss was Alive but just drugged and was put in a coma for years by the Poxy AI
@@theta_clips lol Solidus is literally the only snake who isn't talking about Big Boss everytime we see him. His goal are much more close to Solid than Liquid/Venom/Big Boss
@@desolatortrooper7196 how are his goals close to solid snake's? Snake is always just a pawn being controlled by others. Big Boss wanted freedom from the patriots and freedom in general. Solidus is very much the same in that regard. Also Liquid and Armstrong too
@@yourmum69_420 well Solidus and Solid don't rant about Big Boss 24/7 and both pretty much want freedom for everyone. The main difference came from the fact that Solidus is ruthless. While Snake had a tranquilizer gun for the marines in the Tanker Solidus don't mind slaughtering the navy SEAL if necessary. As far as i'm concerned in MG1 and 2 Big Boss wanted to create a military state that could ve a refuge for soldiers so they aren't just pawns to greater power. Meanwhile Outer Heaven would have been a mercenary nation, armed with nukes so it can't be attacked and could counter balance the Patriots influence. Same thing with Liquid. For me Solidus is mostly Solid Snake personnality/belief but with Liquid methods. But after it is what is Solidus as a character. A mix between Solid and Liquid. Solidus is a state where matter go from Solid to Liquid. Just like the character who was a pawn and later turn into a rebel against the Patriots
Well the whole bitter pill of MGS2 is that you're fighting the freedom fighter, mainly because he's willing to annihilate society just to burn the Patriots.
Snake can scare the explosion by looking at it so the damage will be controlled. Look at the harrier missiles, it should've destroyed the whole of Big shell but it only destroyed a bridge.
1:44 Over 20 years and I never realized Snake was refering to Big Boss with this line. I always assumed he was telling Solidus to stop impersonating HIM(meaning himself). I like it as it shows Snake still has some weird respect for Big Boss and is possibly still having PTSD upon seeing someone resembling Big Boss.
The best part about this is that Solidus was the president. Like imagine your on a mission and Joe Biden appears talking about how he’s “The boss to surpass Big Boss himself”
@@RyZeRxWolfChannel I think Solidus would kill Gray fox. I mean Solid Snake could have beat Gray Fox but i don't think he could beat Solidus (okay mostly because chaff won't work and Solidus won't go Hand to Hand after two lucky punch from Snake) and also because Solidus has take down 3 Rays (lore wise they were the most powerful Metal Gear at the time) MGR Raiden crush MGS2 Solidus 100%. But shoud Solidus appears in MGR2 he would probably have been upgraded to the lastest tech available.
@@desolatortrooper7196 I agree with u, solidus is stomping gray fox but not standing up to mgr raiden, unless he gets insane improvements. I think he would’ve beaten raiden in Mgs2 as well but couldn’t really happen due to plot. The guy who’s quick enough to deflect bullets is suddenly unable to win in a sword fight because he couldn’t react? Doesn’t make sense
I love it when Solidus Snake screams at the very end of the boss battle after firing one more Stinger missile to the Harrier......LMAO!.... Such emotion.
"HA-HA-HAAAAAA" "NOT BAD!!" "AHHH!!" "TAKE THIS!!!" "TRY DODGING THIS!" "NOOOOO-OOOO!!!!!" "WHAT THE??!!!" "YOU'RE TOUGHER THAN I THOUGHT!" "I'LL LET YOU GO OUT IN STYLE!" "BUUUURNNNN BAAAYBEHHHH!!" "AAAAHHHHHH-HAAAAHHHH!!!!" (The one you're referring to) 😂
I still have a seperate save file on the HD Version just when Snakes gives Raiden his Sword against the Arsenal Tengus If the game won't offer me the HF Blade on New Game + then I'll make do
I like how Snake started blasting his rifle instead of waiting for some stupid monologue, waiting to kill him at the end of the game for dramatic reason.
Most of the time video games just get it right, and it usually looks shit on screen with actual people. Probably because it was accompanied by the actual creators, whereas live action always have some third party person that want to do something "a little extra" and blows the whole thing to smoke.
As Phantom Pain draws nearer I find myself wishing Cygan has voiced Big Boss from the start and not just for plot reasons. He obviously does 'imposing' well but could he do the younger more naive Naked Snake? I actually think he would have done a better job Than Hayter tbh. A lot of Snake's weakness for the boss is left to our imagination due to Davids rasp not having a lot of range. Personally I think Cygan would have smashed MGS3 as Snake,
Solidus-Skully I honestly think all the Snakes should have had the same voice regardless of the voice actors like the JP version, in JP Raiden and the player actually think Solidus is Solid Snake before he reveals himself.
Okay everyone! Listen up!!! Solidus is snake is not Venom Snake!! The real Venom Snake died in 1995 a few decades before MGS1!! Now the other reason why Solidus appears older is because he was bio-engineered that way. As mgs4 will later tell you. Later on , Solidus and liquids bodies are used as spare parts for Big Boss who was badly burned beyond recognition in 1999 by snake himself. Venom snake is already dead
Just a heads-up. If we dropped a Stinger inside its case from more than 3 feet, it had to be checked over by a maintenance team, and if not in the case and dropped only 2 feet, it was likely unserviceable. So feel free to just toss them out of a helicopter! Also, a Stinger is 59 inches long, and you need the missile round, gripstock, and a Battery-Coolant Unit (BCU) to fire it, and a BCU only gives you about 40 seconds of power and argon coolant before the seeker head overheats.
You can’t think about that kind of shit when you have an ex president cloned super soldier in a cybernetic mech suit piloting a fucking harrier towards you!
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The line "I am a whole different game from Liquid" is soooooooooooo gooooooooooood
I know rightttt! Whenever I hear it still gives me the chills. So good.
@@finaljustice3848 almost every cutscene fives chill, i mean in every mgs game)
It’s funny how Solidus thinks he’s more stronger and smarter than Liquid but Liquid is more stronger and more smarter than Solidus
@@dillonkinder9296 yeah since liquid got all the dominant genes
@@JohnSmith-hj8pg he got the recessive genes. Solid snake got the dominant genes
"So you're the boss around here?"
"No not just around here."
So badass.
Yeah, Solidus Snake's voice actor is so badass. He is underrated. "I'll let you go out in style."
+MrKockNoker I always wonder if Big Boss in MGS4 sound better with Solidus voice... He's perfect clone after all....
the people hates raiden, but he defeated the solidus...he's not like snake, i know, but he's "little badass", huh? haha im brazilian, sorry if i'm talking wrong...
+Aleksandro pereira freires it's alright we All tAlK a liTtle fUckeD heRe oN tHe oN thE InTerbUtts
Died just today...
How did Pliskin know that Solidus wasn't Solid Snake..? This is the first game Pliskin has ever been in, and Solid Snake never met him.
if you really cant tell that pliskin is an allias of snakes then you are just a lost cause
dbzdrag0n Either a troll or brain damage.
Wolf Bane Or he's joking and you're both too stupid to realize it.
Nanomachines are simulating brain damage on him we could all be cheated, well, not me boy, clever
Yeah, But I think this is gonna be one of those mysteries that will never be solved.
Kinda like how Peter Parker always disappears whenever Spiderman shows up.
I love Snake's 100% confidence in Raiden. He just expects a single dude to take out a fighter jet with limited terrain using a stinger missile
From a man who beat Big Boss with naught but a lighter and hair spray Pliskin's confidence is all you need.
Wtf are you talking about Snake ? He's not in this scene, that guy's name is Pliskin
@RyZeRxWolfChannel from escape from NY?
@@RyZeRxWolfChannelYeah, snake's body was positively ID'd two years ago, that can't be Solid Snake
RIP John Cygan.
''All I want is to be remembered. By other people, by history."
-Solidus Snake
#Legend #AlwaysInMyMind
#MGS2
Joacoo c:
That quote is ironic considering Solidus is arguably the least memorable Snake. Hell, he’s even the least memorable villain.
Heathen Pride Because he was never really a villain. He wanted to put an end to the Patriots. ALL of the Plant Chapter happened BECAUSE of the Patriots, from the beginning to the very end. The Patriots pinned Solidus and Raiden against each other, due to Raiden's nanomachines being connected to Olga's future child, Sunny. Therefore, in MGS4, keeping Raiden alive was a HUGE priority throughout that whole game, cause upon his death, Sunny would have immediately fell-- I'm digressing from the topic a bit much. Point is, Solidus was never a villain; He was a puppet, a pawn under control of the La li lu le lo, and he wanted to be remembered as the man who put an end to their twisted regime, being remembered as an exon of history instead of an intron.
Heathen Pride The least memorable snake? he sure as hell has the least appereances, so it isn't a fair argument.
He really was one of the more memorable villains overall, because of his motivations and this entrance.
Pedro Juan
I guess he’s better than Skull Face, but that really isn’t much to brag about. The others, though? Venom Snake, Big Boss, Liquid Snake, Liquid Ocelot, and even The Boss were more interesting, if not compelling. George being an anti-villain is compelling, but aside from the vanilla ass Skull Face I’d still prefer the other villains.
Heathen Pride Well it comes to personal preference really, I never really liked Venom because he felt shoe horned in the lore and had no identity of his own, also him existing never affected the story in any way shape or form, IMO made it worse, more convoluted (if a random unnamed guy can match Big Boss in Skills why not clone him instead? bonus that he most likely can reproduce and there didn't need to be more Snakes) , The Boss wasnt really the main Villain, it was Volgin who's not really a deep character at all, he is a James Bond villain.
Solidus was right in most of what he talked about and was the first to opose the greater scope villains that were the patriots, and also had some of the best lines in the series (0:48), he's memorable for that IMO.
Also I've heard people talk about how you fight the dual katana wielding expresident elder clone brother of Solid Snake in an exoeskeleton with tentacles who you fight a top of federal hall, when describing MGS.
1:15 I just realized- Solidus’ voice is either really loud or Snake’s hearing is flawless, cuz he was able to convey these words to Snake when there was literally a helicopter adjacent to them
I mean, they ARE both super soldiers xD
I always assumed it was because Snake/Pliskin was in contact via codec
nano machine proximity chat
You know one thing I always liked about Solidus Snake's voice is that it seemed to be an amalgamation of Liquid and Solid Snake's voices which makes sense because Solidus was as President James Johnson said "Neither Solid nor Liquid "
nanomachines, son
Even for it's age, this is still one of the most badass scenes in video games.
Age is just a number when it comes to Metal Gear Solid.
Fuck dude I just made the same comment before seeing this
Age hasn't slown it down one bit.
i mean......he's only 37 years old technically .........
@@silverlance100 Game's age idiot.
RIP John Cygan :(
Who's that?
@@MrJRD827 voice of Solidus Snake
😭
:( No way.... o7 Salute for him
Hey... it's President George Sears!
You're damn right.
Solidus > Liquid
+Retro Gaming Guitarist Nope, lol, Liquid is Epic!
Retro Gaming Guitarist More than 3 years later... You're still wrong, sorry.
mikhailPOL 5 months later... that guy is STILL wrong
1:48 I love how it shows both of their Super soldier abilities.
Snake can do headshots easily in a moving helicopter without using the scope, solidus can see and block bullets despite the heavy wind from the helicopter that should be messing up his vision a little.
More impressive is how Solidus can dodge bullets like Snake in Twin Snakes then gets hit in the face with a grenade launcher and takes no damage.
1:00 When someone says big boss is solid snake
That does happen way too much, doesn't it?
NO THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE!
Link isn’t Zelda, Samus isn’t Metroid, Pit isn’t Kid Icarus. The inconsistency man, hate’em.
Well Big Boss was The Original Solid Snake
Eric Monaco He was Naked Snake, not Solid Snake.
Meets his brother for the first time. Fires a whole M4 clip into him and 2 grenades.
*just Solid Snake things*
Mag. Not clip
I always like solidus voice in this game. Very antagonistic.
And Solidus was right
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Raiden doesn't even recognize the previous commander in chief
There's actually a reason for that. Raiden's memory of his past life was altered and suppressed, through implanting his cerebral cortex with a high concentration of nanomachines.
Though you know what's something I find more funny? That Solidus barely recognized Raiden till later, he remembered he did know him somewhere before, but didn't realize or remember who exactly he was till later. Though then again it's been over a decade since he's last seen him, and raiden's grown as well since Solidus last saw him.
Also Solidus is basically an old fogey.
True, but it's kinda like not recognizing George Dubya hahahaha
I'd have a hard time convincing myself that the terrorist leader used to be the president of the US, who is now armored with an exosuit brandishing tentacle rockets that gets thicc on command.
"Brother, i'm a whole different game from liquid" what a badass line !
R.I.P
One of the greatest voice acting performances I have EVER had the honor to witness.
Honestly the super-powered humans terrified me when I was a kid. Younger me expected this game to be a gritty war game, but as soon I saw vamp killing Navy Seals I was like,”Daddy did you fight a vampire?”
LOL How did he reply?
I was sort of the same way with MGS1 when I saw Psycho Mantis and the Ninja. Not scared, but thrown off a bit. I played the demo, which didn't feature any magic realism elements.
@@thefearofg0ds758 I like how telepathy exists in game, but it's just casually accepted and not a major plot point
@@SuperSayinSolidSnek it's even funnier that in 1960s there was just casually a big, buff, russian guy who could store electricity inside him for no reason except for the fact that he's just "built different"
@@den-lavender for real, like why even make a nuclear tank when you have dudes like this just hanging around. And it's not like he's even the only superhuman person.
We deserved to know more about Solidus. Really a shame they never expanded further on his role in the series or his backstory. All we know is he's the "perfect clone" of Big Boss, served as President, and was involved in the Liberian Civil war in the 90's. Oh and how could I forget that he was heavily involved with Shadow Moses. So interesting yet we never learn more! Is there anything deeper with his lore?
I don't know, I think he's kind of lame. Why does a perfect clone of the Boss need a power suit to keep up with Raiden?
@@juice6521 because like the others, he was designed to grow old way before a normal human. He was in his late twenties when he served as president, when the minimum is 35 but because of his accelerated age, he looks around 60
@@juice6521 because raiden is a badass
@@RaxusXeronos. Yup, Solidus was an extremely formidable adversary. All the Snakes are powerful in their own right
Kojima didn't intend to continue the series after MGS2. Solidus within his game wasn't any less elaborated upon than Liquid was in his (whose "return" was pretty much not relevant to MGS2's plot and more about playing with the player's expectations combined with Kojima wishing to do more with him with Kojima ultimately regretting the decision anyway). It was MGS4 through Liquid Ocelot and Phantom Pain that gave Liquid much of his post-MGS1 elaboration. Solidus was always tied more strongly to Raiden (who was a polarizing character) than Solid and he was overall something of a third wheel to the Solid/Liquid with Big Boss/Naked team so none for him.
Raiden: So you're the boss around here?
Solidus: NO, not just around here...
I'M THE BOSS TO SURPASS BIG BOSS HIMSELF
Solidus is savage.
Well he's not. He's referring to Solid Snake since it's him who defeated Big Boss twice. Sure it's revealed to be Venom the first time around but both are Big Boss, and it's not Solidus but Solid who beat them.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f Dude what are you talking about? I just said that Solidus was badass in this scene and quoted him.
@@ArtursOffice Yeah Solidus is badass without a doubt. But not with those lines. He was referring to himself trying to act as if he's Solid Snake, not knowing Solid will appear the next second. The reason why he acted like Solid Snake was because he believed he died in the Tanker which was Snake and Otacon's ruse. So this scene is actually a bit funny with full context because Solidus has to drop the "Surpass the Big Boss" ruse and call himself Solidus again.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f Okay then if you say so
*derp face* "IM THE BOSS TO SURPASS BIG BOSS SO I BECOME THE BIGGEST BOSS BOSS BOSS BOSS!"
Mercury1079 now look at my muscles 💪💪
*super saiyan noises
The Boss
Big Boss
Bigger Boss
Even Bigger Boss
Biggest Boss
Gas Snake
+Ayy Lmao AHA! So every time solidus fart, his battle suit get bigger... :D
Headcanon: Solidus was originally going to be Gas Snake,but EVA didn't want him to be bullied,so he was named Solidus.
Liquidus Snake
Part of me wishes they went with the name Vapor Snake.
Plasma Snake 😅
Solidus: "The World Needs Only One Big Boss"
ironic
Ikr, there's 3 of the fuckers, venom, naked and solidus, or well... 0 seeing as how all 3 of them are *DEAD NOW*
@@sirgideonofnir5628 i think the patriots part wasn't snake
@@elcalabozodelandroide2 true it was otacon
3:53 "Raiden! This is the Stinger Missile Launcher. The Kasatka can't stand up to the Harrier! You HAVE to shoot the Harrier down! I'm counting on you!" That turn Raiden does along with the accompanying music make for possibly the biggest "call to action" I've ever seen. This is the best part right here. Harry Gregson-Williams, you brilliant man.
When a legend like solid snake says he's counting on me it's literally a super saiyan power up moment for me. 😂
@@omaewamoshindeiru616 it’s like an awesome cliffhanger you get to play immediately
Bravo Vince! Vince, you genius! Bravo Vince please Vince Bravo!
RIP John Cygan, iconic, memorable, a great loss.
Solidus is so fucking badass ... "that the best you can do, snake?" Oh man. He is one of my top favorite "villain" of all time!
6:07
When they got your eye
David Johnson I was looking for this
Me stabbing my self with my phone at 2am
Mfw they got his eye
01:51 the most badass line in gaming industry.
One thing I liked most about Solidus is despite all the fucked up shit he did. You can see that he clearly loves Raiden. It's obviously breaking his heart to have to kill him, but in his view he's saving the whole world from slavery by doing so, and even though he has to kill him to stop the patriots(his life purpose) He can't bear to do it in cold blood and gives Raiden a chance to win. All these things make him the best villain(and possibly character in general) in the whole series.
I mean, he killed Raiden’s parents. I understand what you are saying but love is maybe the wrong word. Perhaps he is obsessed with Raiden because he “created” him
Umm no. Just no. Solidus at best respects Raiden as a soldier. He is ready to kill him but would want Raiden to kill him just as much. They are Emulating the legendary Big Boss vs Solid Snake as Raiden stands as "Solidus' Son". Solidus is a psychopath but he is a product of being a tool from the beginning. He is fighting his fate for his own life. Unlike liquid or Snake, he was already seen as Big Boss' spare while the two could still live as Big Boss successors until the advanced aging would start and the patriots completing their "evolutions" no longer needing the Big Boss' legacy.
@You Tube umm no just no sweetie 💅
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f How is Solidus a psychopath lmfao, he doesn't kill without feeling and he definitely isn't doing it for his own enjoyment, he has motivations, dreams, goals, and aspirations, and to say that he doesn't care about Raiden at all (perhaps love is too strong of a word, but he definitely has some tender feelings for him, considering he *did* raise him) is just ridiculous. Like the original commenter said, Solidus doesn't just execute Raiden, he gives him a chance to fight back and win, because it's not just his own feelings that dictate that action, but the fact that according to Solidus' own values, Raiden deserves a chance to prove himself and break out of the shell the Patriots created for him, much like himself and Big Boss' image.
@@theta_clips Solidus Killed the parents of those he chose to train to be killers. No matter the goal, no person in normal capacity gets to do that. He is deeply disturbed. Probably as disturbed as Eli as we see his anger is enough to overpower Psycho mantis as a child. He didn't give Raiden a chance to fight back, there was just no more fight in him. Ocelot betrayed him and the whole big shell incident is a patriot's simulation. Raiden will kill Solidus no matter what since they got Rose and Sunny. Solidus will simply surrender or just finish what he started against Raiden as they mirror the battle in Zanzibar(Snake vs Big Boss). He simply fought as his moment as a "soldier" but there is nothing to it anymore. He was a pawn then, he is still a pawn now. He is also suffering from a faster advanced aging than Snake so he literally had so little to live even if he chose to surrender. His fight was for naught and now he just wants to prove himself that he will at least die a soldier. But in no way is he giving Raiden a chance. They're both "monsters" created by Patriots. Even after Solidus' defeat Raiden felt nothing that everything is just a game until Snake convinced him otherwise.
1:00 My reaction when people complain about David Hayter being "replaced".
No ,that's not Big Boss!
Snake was getting all defensive when Solidus claimed he was Solid Snake. Another hint Pliskin was Solid Snake.
2:02 When you step on a LEGO brick.
So an identical copy of Big Boss and Solid Snake served as the President of the United States and Solid Snake never noticed?
He changed his look I think
He was holed up in Alaska, drinking too much.
@Starscream91 Vulcan Raven and President Baker are both dead. Mei Ling is just another member of the military, i doubt she met Snake after the shadow moses incident. i don't know what happens with Meryl after mgs1 but Otacon doesn't look like the kind of guy to reach out to Snake just to tell him that he looks like the president.
@Starscream91 Keep in mind that Solidus look older when POTUS due to the accelerated aging. Plus I think when he was POTUS, he probably had like a thick bread thus people didn't recognize. Solid Snake still looked younger with brown hair in Shadow Moses.
@@StardogChampion06 Plus Solidus is known as the perfect clone of Big Boss and it was complete when Raiden took his eye out as Ocelot mentions when Raiden is captured that he is the spitting image of Big Boss and in MGS 4 they used his body to fool Liquid thinking that he was Big Boss cause the real Big Boss was Alive but just drugged and was put in a coma for years by the Poxy AI
If Solidus was real he would've been the greatest President the United States ever had.
@@sirgideonofnir5628 Except he's not but go on I suppose
@@theta_clips lol Solidus is literally the only snake who isn't talking about Big Boss everytime we see him.
His goal are much more close to Solid than Liquid/Venom/Big Boss
@@desolatortrooper7196 how are his goals close to solid snake's? Snake is always just a pawn being controlled by others.
Big Boss wanted freedom from the patriots and freedom in general. Solidus is very much the same in that regard. Also Liquid and Armstrong too
@@yourmum69_420 well Solidus and Solid don't rant about Big Boss 24/7 and both pretty much want freedom for everyone.
The main difference came from the fact that Solidus is ruthless.
While Snake had a tranquilizer gun for the marines in the Tanker Solidus don't mind slaughtering the navy SEAL if necessary.
As far as i'm concerned in MG1 and 2 Big Boss wanted to create a military state that could ve a refuge for soldiers so they aren't just pawns to greater power.
Meanwhile Outer Heaven would have been a mercenary nation, armed with nukes so it can't be attacked and could counter balance the Patriots influence.
Same thing with Liquid.
For me Solidus is mostly Solid Snake personnality/belief but with Liquid methods.
But after it is what is Solidus as a character.
A mix between Solid and Liquid.
Solidus is a state where matter go from Solid to Liquid.
Just like the character who was a pawn and later turn into a rebel against the Patriots
I sympathized with Solidus, I always felt he was on the right side. Snake and Raiden should have joined him in his fight against the patriots.
Yeah, but he had children fight as soldiers, so fuck him.
@@soberchimera61 Yeah, true. I kiiinda forgot about that detail.
Solidus Snake wanted to take down the patriots network with a nuke while Sunny/Emma managed to take it down with a computer virus
Well the whole bitter pill of MGS2 is that you're fighting the freedom fighter, mainly because he's willing to annihilate society just to burn the Patriots.
@@GekkoOne As a kid i was like "soooooo did we win or lose?"
Turns out the real ending was supposed to be out lives lived un our own way
wish there was more cutscenes of solidus being badass he was a really cool villain
Snake can blow up the semtex but if I do, it's game over. Feels bad man
Snake can scare the explosion by looking at it so the damage will be controlled. Look at the harrier missiles, it should've destroyed the whole of Big shell but it only destroyed a bridge.
R.I.P John Cygan, no one could have played this role better.
1:44
Over 20 years and I never realized Snake was refering to Big Boss with this line. I always assumed he was telling Solidus to stop impersonating HIM(meaning himself). I like it as it shows Snake still has some weird respect for Big Boss and is possibly still having PTSD upon seeing someone resembling Big Boss.
Nah, solid was just hiding his identity
@@aquilesca5tr0 the script specifically says Snake was referring to Big Boss.
"I'M A WHOLE DIFFERENT GAME FROM LIQUID!" So badass!
The best part about this is that Solidus was the president. Like imagine your on a mission and Joe Biden appears talking about how he’s “The boss to surpass Big Boss himself”
By the time this game happens he is not the president anymore
@@XXXKaruXXXyeah, Joe won’t be around much longer after his presidency. Neither will Trump. Not everyone lives as old as Carter.
The first time Snake ever says his full codename
@Lawenda Paszkiewicz wait when else did he?
@@desfox3685 doesn't he say "the real Solid Snake is no match for the legend" in MGS1 when he first talks to Meryl?
@@vettelfan17 I don't remember, I haven't fully played mgs1 lol, but you're probably right
“NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!” That part makes me laugh every time.
I honestly wonder what it would have been like if Solidus was created as a DLC/Secret Boss in Revengeance. Woulda been fucking incredible
If they ever remake this game with the Fox Engine I would love the final boss fight against Solidus to use the same gameplay as Revengence
MGR2 is a lost hope...
Lmao, raiden would destroy him, solidus is strong but not strong as raiden or gray fox
@@RyZeRxWolfChannel I think Solidus would kill Gray fox.
I mean Solid Snake could have beat Gray Fox but i don't think he could beat Solidus (okay mostly because chaff won't work and Solidus won't go Hand to Hand after two lucky punch from Snake) and also because Solidus has take down 3 Rays (lore wise they were the most powerful Metal Gear at the time)
MGR Raiden crush MGS2 Solidus 100%.
But shoud Solidus appears in MGR2 he would probably have been upgraded to the lastest tech available.
@@desolatortrooper7196 I agree with u, solidus is stomping gray fox but not standing up to mgr raiden, unless he gets insane improvements. I think he would’ve beaten raiden in Mgs2 as well but couldn’t really happen due to plot. The guy who’s quick enough to deflect bullets is suddenly unable to win in a sword fight because he couldn’t react? Doesn’t make sense
Guys is pliskin a traitor? The boss to surpass big boss himself called him a 🐍
My friend called Solid Snake Solidus Snake. I didn’t talk to him for a week.
Hahahaha
NO , THAT IS NOT SOILD SNAKE !!
Solidius: "I am Solid Snake!"
Solid Snake: "I'm about to end the man's whole career."
I love it when Solidus Snake screams at the very end of the boss battle after firing one more Stinger missile to the Harrier......LMAO!.... Such emotion.
"HA-HA-HAAAAAA"
"NOT BAD!!"
"AHHH!!"
"TAKE THIS!!!"
"TRY DODGING THIS!"
"NOOOOO-OOOO!!!!!"
"WHAT THE??!!!"
"YOU'RE TOUGHER THAN I THOUGHT!"
"I'LL LET YOU GO OUT IN STYLE!"
"BUUUURNNNN BAAAYBEHHHH!!"
"AAAAHHHHHH-HAAAAHHHH!!!!" (The one you're referring to) 😂
His armor was underutilized as shit bro.
Yep. Pretty disappointing
0:14 Snake riding in a chopper just like his Phantom father Punished Snake
0:35 Such a memorable cutscene
Armstrong: I'm making the omlette to surpass Big Omlette himself
Anyone else used to have a separate save file on their PS2 just to rewatch this cutscene?
I still have a seperate save file on the HD Version just when Snakes gives Raiden his Sword against the Arsenal Tengus
If the game won't offer me the HF Blade on New Game + then I'll make do
Man I wanted that suit as a kid
I want it now! Lol
0:57
-Solid Snake
-No that is not Solid Snake..... I am Solid Snake!!!!!!!
I miss pliskin wish he appeared more
Yeah, he suddenly dissapears in the middle of the story and that solid snake guy replaces him, I wonder what's up with that?
I like how Snake started blasting his rifle instead of waiting for some stupid monologue, waiting to kill him at the end of the game for dramatic reason.
*NO!* THAT IS *NOT* SOLID SNAKE!
THEY GOT MY EYE!
You just can't take it seriously with spanish subs lol.
No! El NO es Solid Snake!
No wey, ese pendejo no es la serpiente solida
HERMANOS!
@@anclss2384
Metal llir mejicano :v
"Vamp, ¡vamos!"
"They got my eye" *Proceeds to open his eye with no blood or any sort of injury on the eye to yell at Vamp*
crazy to think that solidus was 17 years old when he adopted raiden
Or younger
This is so Badass I’m not sure why they can’t make a live action movie of MGS1 and MGS2 this is the greatest cutscene ever
Most of the time video games just get it right, and it usually looks shit on screen with actual people. Probably because it was accompanied by the actual creators, whereas live action always have some third party person that want to do something "a little extra" and blows the whole thing to smoke.
"I'll DROWN YOU FOOLS TO INTERFERING!!!"
*for interfering
"THAT'S METAL GEAR! It's already active!?"
I love the way he says that line.
John Cygan your voice was awesome and forever will be remembered as the boss of bosses.
Rest in peace.
"THEY GOT MY EYE" always so funny to me
After he says that, and goes on to say "Vamp, go!" If you look close his eye is still there. Guess they forgot to edit that part lol
As Phantom Pain draws nearer I find myself wishing Cygan has voiced Big Boss from the start and not just for plot reasons. He obviously does 'imposing' well but could he do the younger more naive Naked Snake? I actually think he would have done a better job Than Hayter tbh. A lot of Snake's weakness for the boss is left to our imagination due to Davids rasp not having a lot of range. Personally I think Cygan would have smashed MGS3 as Snake,
Cygan as Big Boss would've made perfect sense considering that Solidus was pretty much Big Boss in all but legitimate birth.
R.I.P. John Cygan
Solidus-Skully I honestly think all the Snakes should have had the same voice regardless of the voice actors like the JP version, in JP Raiden and the player actually think Solidus is Solid Snake before he reveals himself.
My favorite character in the game! who else? If you don't agree name yours!
AGREED
YES!!!
Solid Snake
Big Boss
Liquid Snake
R.I.P John Cygan 1954-2017.
Okay everyone! Listen up!!! Solidus is snake is not Venom Snake!! The real Venom Snake died in 1995 a few decades before MGS1!! Now the other reason why Solidus appears older is because he was bio-engineered that way. As mgs4 will later tell you. Later on , Solidus and liquids bodies are used as spare parts for Big Boss who was badly burned beyond recognition in 1999 by snake himself. Venom snake is already dead
BIG RESPECT TO MY BIG BRO SOLIDUS!
RAIDEN KILLED MY BRO!
"Brother, I'm a whole different game from Liquid."
I mean, he isn't wrong...MGS2 and all...
0:52 10 people Eminem is afraid of
Snake: With Kasatka I can't fight the Harrier
Líquid: With Hind I can fight 2 F16
When you first played MGS2 and took control of Raiden you were like Wtf until you saw Pliskin and it was ok
0:35 bad ass introduction of solidus snake
this was so goofy yet feels epic
0:57 SOLID SNAKE
1:58 Leaving the gym after getting the pump be like
Just so anyone here wants to know - this was REALISTIC AS FUCK graphics back in 2001 for a console.
6:57 I always loved how disgusted Snake sounds when he says "It's running on water."
Every MGS fan lit up when snake said “Raiden, this is the Stinger missile launcher.” 😱😱😱
solidus does nothing
-Stop inpersonating him!
Foxtrop13 The in game script said he meant Big Boss by "him"
"I'm a whole new,different game from Liquid,brother. "
Me: Oh sh....
Otacon : Hey! What's that?!
Snake : It's running on water....
When i first saw solidus i was like how did bryan fury make it to konami
Just seeing him leaning against the wall is still spine tingling to this day. Beautifully written game.
No pun intended
A game ahead of its time
2022 and still gets me amped up. Brother im a whole different game than liquid
The sheer shock of Raiden seeing RAY already active. Boy he's in for a surprise, RAY is just the tip of the iceberg 😅
My favorite cutscene in a whole game.
Moja również ;)
Just a heads-up. If we dropped a Stinger inside its case from more than 3 feet, it had to be checked over by a maintenance team, and if not in the case and dropped only 2 feet, it was likely unserviceable. So feel free to just toss them out of a helicopter! Also, a Stinger is 59 inches long, and you need the missile round, gripstock, and a Battery-Coolant Unit (BCU) to fire it, and a BCU only gives you about 40 seconds of power and argon coolant before the seeker head overheats.
You can’t think about that kind of shit when you have an ex president cloned super soldier in a cybernetic mech suit piloting a fucking harrier towards you!
2:17 that m203 reload. I always loved the explosions in this game.
How badass do you want your introduction to be?
Solidus: Yes.
Best scene in the entire saga. There's everything
WHOLE DIFFERENT GAME FROM LIQUID
“ What a pleasant surprise brother , save it you are no brother of mine “ epic
NEIN! IST EI BIN SOLID SNAKE!
1:32 One of the coolest character intro's (Tnx to Harry Gregson Williams' Score)