elves: expel humans from their ancestral lands, starve humans, send dragons to terrorize humans humans: kill dragons with black magic Elf: THEY ARE TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE
Honestly same. Even when he turned his army into those lava peeps the spell was temporary and it only seemed evil because the show conveniently had him forget to tell his army that. I didn't know there was a third season and I'm kinda interested to see whether or not the worm actually makes him do anything he wouldn't already or is there to make him look more evil while he still continues to make tough but ultimately reasonable decisions.
dragon prince made me realize the difference between "tell" and "show".dragon prince tells that humans are bad for killing dragons with black magic but dragon prince show that elves are evil for driving humans out of their homeland, intentionally starve human and terrorizing humans with dragons just because some humans learned black magic.
You know I agree with you on most of what you've said about the humans in the show and about dark magic. How is getting magic from a magical animal any different then getting meat from a normal animal is the same thing. what the elvens and dragons did to the humans was out of fear not some righteous notion about protecting the poor and weak ( and vary powerful) monsters from dark magic they do viren dirty he was at least in the fist 2 season of the show he is the wisest of them and the king although a good men was a shit king like what kind of a ruler lets fifty thousand of his own people stave to help some other kingdom yes it sound good but tell that to the staving people as there kids die. I like the show and I hope there is a 4th season but they really got to work on the whole right and wrong thing they have. Anyway love you work keep it up
I think that the problem was that while the creators can clearly write fun and compelling characters they struggled with making a story with the fate of the world as the stake. There are many shows trying really hard to recapture the magic of Avatar the Last Airbender while trying with different levels of success to not seem like copycats. Game of Thrones had a similar effect.
One of the big problem with the Dragon Prince is that it relies on outside sources such as comic ,books, interview, and role playing game to tell the whole backstory. If you watch the show it will make it that the Human look good and the elves bad despite the claim, but the other source has stuff that say human Genocide the Unicorn and such to make the human look bad. The Avatar didn't need mountains of book to explain everything, the book and comic simple enhanced the story not used to explain every little thing because the show didn't explain thing right or left things out. Also sense you dealing with books or other outside source that mean not everyone going to be reading them, so if a person bring one thing up there a chance they will leave things out or those thing can be retcon later. Like the the wiki said that the Elves came to Xadia later so they were not native to Xadia, also apparently exiling the human was consider a mercy because the first idea the New Dragon King had was killing them all till one elf princess suggested not killing them and exiling them instead , the RPG book said that the Elves were operating and assainating human in the human side way before the events of the show but people never bring these stuff up.
A reminder it is not a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY if it is committed against elves. Or dragons. In that case it's considered humanitarian aid. Unless they are tomboys. Then you and your entire family is fair game.
You’re not even gonna mention how the main characters father is an absolute moron and a shameful king. I honestly cannot think of one good decision he’s made as a ruler.
We do in fact see him do two good things during his reign. Agreeing to kill that one lava golem to prevent hundreds of thousands from starving and murdering the king of the dragons. Still those things should mainly be credited to Viren, the only competent leader in this confused nightmare of a setting.
It always baffles me when a story blatantly gets its good and evil mixed up. How does no one go through all the effort of writing that and realize that their bad guys are the good guys?
But they don't! The only thingwe are shown in the DP are the perspectives or narrations of certain characters there is no saying those are good guys those are bad guys.
i've watched every episode of dragon pilot and it definitely gets better. the beginning has no real action but trust me it does get better. Dragon Prince, yeah the intro story is kind of dumb i'll give you that. "one man made something that is inherently evil so let's banish _Literally Every_ human even though that's also inherently evil as its punishing an entire race for the misdeed of one man instead of outlaw or restrict the usage. and a race, apparently as a result or was already was, in famine would most likely need to use _MORE_ of said magic to try and solve the problem as they apparently can't use magic themselves thus can't magically help crops like everyone else probably can. There must have been more to it than that. there must have been multiple after that that tried to use some elves themselves and other sentient things as they have a _lot_ of magical potential and thus a lot more magic to solve their problem for something like that to happen. the story as is is kind of stupid but i enjoyed the journey they went on. the humor was pretty good to. when she held up the picture callum drew and it exactly matched the room man that was funny. i like the series a lot but hate the way they did it.
I think Dragon pilot really fell flat for me. The largest conflict in those first 6 episodes were one of the girls piloting one of the most powerful, rarest creatures known to man but wants to pilot an inferior jet which she's probably too young to pilot anyway. So what is the conflict in the next few episodes anyway? As for Dragon Prince, they could've really improved it if they shown the humans doing something (literally anything) wrong. What was shown just warrants all investment into the human side and hatred of the elves hard. The humour was good in the show, I actually was going to use the example of the picture drawing to exemplify that but I cut it out (because it appeared close to the simpsons clip). Also I like the characters, their personalities are well fleshed out. It definitely is where the writers strengths lie.
@@dlfarmer7601 Now that would be spoilers. I 'll say that a few plot twists come into play and that certain events happen that reveal what their mission is and how hard it will be on both them and their dragons. The visuals on the final mission are bumped up and it definitely adds to it. Though I will say it has something at the _Very_ end that I think should have been changed a little dialogue wise and I think you'll see what I mean if you do end up going back to see it through.
@@thatguybrody4819 Afraid I won't continue either so you don't have to worry about spoilers for me (unless you're worried about others reading this comment). Whenever a show loses any of its potential or interest then I won't watch any further. Dragon Pilot probably does improve after the sixth episode (which really wouldn't be hard) but when the writers lack any kind of conflict in the first half or make any of their characters engaging (such as overcoming weaknesses) of their anime I'm not exactly holding out hope for the second half.
My goodness that is one to talk about. The sheer amount of potential and writing quality that gets blunderbusted is pretty amazing. Honestly I think it's more so bad its funny than anything.
it's almost like the show, dragon prince was meant to not show any group as 100% good or evil. and yeah, the kids don't know what they are doing... they are kids.
@@ok-yv9dd ok, weird worm thing dousn't = 100% evil. He has shown he is capable of doing good. at one point he even considered sacrificing himself for the king.
@@gaz0428 That may be what you saw, but what I said was what happened. If you can give examples that exonerate the elves or prove the humans were in the wrong (e.g. going out of their way to hunt the elves or something) then I'll happily admit I was wrong.
@@dlfarmer7601 Hmm not sure if that's a case of quality control failing, not wanting to end your "investment", endure a sappy epilogue or what have you, BUT I've quit at the finish line for no good reason with The melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiha. Last episodes are probably good and there's a well received movie after, but MAN was I burnt after the endless 8. Its not that what was to come was bad its just I was too "fatigued" from what came before to care. That said more referring to the it was good than it wasn't variety. I drop it like its hot and got some frustrations when people have to stay invested or can't see the writing on the wall.
I think you’re misunderstanding The Dragon Princes’s story. I’m not saying the elves were in the right, just that everyone had their reasons. As stated before, Dark Magic relies on taking life from creatures born with magic. After humans discovered how to cast dark magic, the elves grew scared of the human race, and pushed them out, since their magic was seen as ‘wrong’ or ‘harmful’. The dragon that was killed, was the King. It was a stupid idea for him to guard the border, but he was trying to just protect his citizens. On top of that, the humans killed of his bloodline, by destroying his only child. So, the elves attacked back, and killed one of the human kingdom’s king. The whole conflict between Viren and literally everyone else, is that if they attacked back, a war would break out, and the cycle would continue. The show is aiming to be morally ambiguous, without a clear ‘good’ side. Thank you for your time.
The thing is, I can't possibly think of how the humans were in the wrong in any of their actions. After being driven from their homeland and having to establish kingdoms of themselves (which suffered in those 1000 years as shown in that famine that nearly killed a hundred thousand people). The reason why the king of the dragons was put to guard the border was simple, because it was the most powerful. When they ventured to the border to kill the magma monster, you can see a huge number of armour, shields and swords scattered about. Therefore, you can see the dragon king massacred a huge number of humans. It is a weapon and the heir would have become another. The humans were perfectly justified to kill them both. As for the dark magic, it really isn't inherently evil. Yes it draws on the life of other beings but it what that magic is used for that is the good or bad act. Dark magic was used to save a hundred thousand lives and several times with the main characters themselves. The fact that the elves brutally kicked out the human race from xadia because they were so worried about one man becoming nearly equal with the elves. Makes me wonder what life was like in xadia before the humans were kicked as this all implies the elves ruled with an iron fist over the weaker humans. Considering there's so few dark magic users and so many more magic elven users with special weapons, the elves have the advantage even without their town destroying dragons. Plus we're told several times the elves were massing troops along their border ready to invade so there's that. So the that's the elven side now for the humans. There's never a seen where the humans are committing any wrongs at all. There's no call to arms to massacre the elves and in fact there's call from multiple humans in charge to just leave them alone. This show really wants to be a both sides have committed wrongs and the whole cycle of revenge but it utterly fails. Humans good, elves bad is what it is.
@@dlfarmer7601 If your dumb ass actually ever looked at what dark magic did, you'd realize why everyone fears it. It's basically necromancy but with more versatility. Kill something, squeeze the power out of it to kill even more stuff and then squeeze even more power out of them. It's a fucking nuclear weapon that should be the most heavily monitored and regulated thing, considering the potential of its misuse. Plus it does appear that there are some side effects to it, like turning into the black-eyed peas when using it. I would not be surprised if some kind of a soul-rot was one of its side effects.
I had assumed Dragon Prince's anti human stance was due to the fact that most of the exposition was told to us from a more elven perspective. The narrator speaks as though he's neither human nor elf which means he'd be a dragon or similar magical being meaning he'd be opposed to humanity. Skewing the narration in the elves' favour
He's an elf. He's a very strange elf, and in fact, is on the human's side in a weird way, but still, he's an elf. There's a lot he left out, because when he stopped watching, the series was still building its myth arc, and yeah, Elves are shown to be dicks and also stupid over the next season when we get to their lands, and Dragons are even worse. The point is it doesn't justify what the bad mage guy in the present is doing(Juries still out on if it justified past bad mage guy, his scene is actually expanded to give context to why he made the big fireball in the beginning, mostly asshole dragon).
I think it said the Narrative for the Dragon Prince was Aaravous the Star Elves that was Immprison. How he know what going on while being imprison in a mirror for thousands of years who knows? Like he the guy who said to gave Dark Magic to human and we see that he hated some of the Elves, but he telling a Anti Human narrative? Or is he Just reading the books of what the other Elves said about the War?
The entire intro is terribly done. Putting aside that its a terrible way to bring across exposition (show don't tell), the visuals conflict with the delivery. The visuals depict the elves being terrible but the delivery make it seem like the humans were wrong. If it was a dragon or other being then it should've had a more balanced view showing why the elves did what they did.
@@SageofStars The first season should have been where we're either given the context for what happened or given a purely human perspective. That isn't what we got. Instead every human character aside from Viren act like the humans were in the wrong without ever going into why. Exposition should be weaved into the story, perhaps given a great amount of mystery to the whole event ages past. There could've been scenes where Rayla and Callum argue about the event, both giving conflicting accounts for what happened (though that would still involve them still travelling together for a different reason). Though I am glad to hear the writers actually showed the elves being evil in the third season, just wish they did that for the first two.
Viren is very good at sounding wise and reasonable...and then his actions go against all of that. Don't listen to what he says, look at what he does. That's part of what makes him a very dangerous antagonist.
Okay, let's look at what he does. He risks his own life to try and save the queen (when fighting for the magma titan's heart), he calls for a summit of kingdoms to try and establish an alliance to defend the human race, he stole the egg ensuring the evil elves can't use a future monster to annihilate huge swaves of humans. Could you give an example of something he does that goes against his principles, i.e. defending his kingdom?
@@dlfarmer7601 Tells his son to murder the princes. Actually does send assassins to the other human kingdoms. Numerous counts of torture and murder... Oh, yeah, and the "monster" in that egg is a child. Dude straight up stole a baby after murdering its father. Not in war, not in a duel, no, he just flat out murdered the Dragon King in cold blood.
@@Technodreamer He tells his son to murder prince Ezren because if he becomes king he will side with the elves and not defend the kingdom. As I said in the video he does it to save tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives. Not sure what you meant about sending assassin to other human kingdoms, did it appear in season 3? The only acts of murder we're shown was against the guards that arrest him right at the end because he's desperate to stay in power and save the kingdom. He tortured the assassin who killed his king (or at least thought he did) in order to get info out of him which could save more lives. Again the kingdom is on the edge of war with a far more powerful foe. Yeah that child has insane power. When it grows up it will have the power to destroy entire armies, set entire cities ablaze. Had Viren allowed it to be raised by the elves it would have been turned into an ultimate weapon to use against the human race. One dragon to guard the border while the other ignites the human kingdoms. The elves have been shown to utter monsters (or at least led by such) so its really within reason that they will do it to stop the humans rising to be anywhere near the same level as them. That dragon king slaughtered tens of thousands of humans. When they visit the border to get the magma titan heart you can see fields and fields of shields, armour, weapons, etc. Those fighters stood no chance against the dragon king and yet they were burnt to a crisp for the crime of wanting to return home. Honestly, the only reason Viren isn't paraded as a true hero of humanity is because everyone else in this show is a moron.
@@dlfarmer7601 yes he sent assasins to other kingdoms but it was on the final episode of season 9. In season 3, episode 2 it was revealed that they attacked and killed most of the rulers of the surrounding kingdoms
@@juliusnepos6013 Okay. I stopped at the end of season 2 (I'm assuming you meant final episode of season 2) so I probably missed that. Is it just specifically at the kid who refueses to send aid to save humanity or was it all of the kingdoms? If the former I can see why he might do it, still very risky. If the latter then that makes no sense at all. Do you agree with my other arguments about Viren?
Okay...Dragon Pilot IS a drama series. Those don't always have a bad guy...also if you watch it until the end, there is a point to this. It's a weird point, and involves going into another dragon's stomach, but it is there, and it even makes the relationship stuff work. As to Dragon Prince, that's context. We see that there's more going on here than it seemed, the 'bad mage' guy is a lot different than what you expect, and the humans WERE oppressed back in the day, I.E. they were hovel living slaves to the elves before one human was given the power of dark magic by a glowy boy who lives in a mirror now...you get no context for that. But yeah, both of these shows actually build from where you stopped watching. I can say Dragon Pilot isn't what you'd likely enjoy, probably dragon prince either, as the current season 3 ending is a bit wonky, due to them not knowing if they WOULD be renewed for more(They were), so they had to be a bit fast and loose with the ending. Still, we've been told more moral ambiguity is coming, and that will be neat to see. Again, just because the bad guy has some good points, doesn't mean he's not a bad guy, that's one of the points of the show.
You're right that shows don't necessarily need villains. In fact having a bunch of characters who aren't necesarily evil could be more interesting but there has to be conflict, be it physical, emotional, mental, etc. The biggest conflict in the six episodes I watched was the one girl who was piloting one of the rarest, most powerful creatures earth has ever scene and wants to pilot an inferior jet that she's probably too young to pilot anyway. I'm fine with drama based shows, for example I absolutly love dragon maid, Anohara and Steins Gate. If what you said about Dragon Prince is true, that the human race was enslaved by the elves then that makes it so much worse. Every human character should absolutly despise the elves (more than they should). Callum and Ezren should deeply hate/fear Rayla all the way through, and all five kingdoms should celebrate every victory, large or small they have against the elves. Viren should have been given a massive parade for killing Thunder (he should have anyway but even more so with this context). The writers know how to write characters but they really fail at worldbuilding and when their story is focused on the world, well, this is the poor result.
@@dlfarmer7601 The character designs are just Studio Bone's style, similar to how Akira Toriyama's work is its own thing. So those characters are all older than they look. That said, she's not 'flying' the dragon, so much as it's flying while she's inside it, and it's NOT what she wanted to do with her life. It's like babysitting to her. As to lack of conflict, they have at least one weird thing go on in every episode. Episode one the conflict is getting the woman to just get inside the dragon, and get her used to this odd situation she finds herself in. The second is that her 'backup' in this, who actually WANTS to do what she's doing, whereas our star character is doing this because she HAS to, is basically constantly bullying her. Third is that they broke one of the jets that was needed for a flight show, and don't have time to replace it. You could say, well, those are pretty minor. And you'd be right. Again, it's how they do it, and it is drama. It's not what you like for drama, and that's fine, but it is drama and slice of life. As to Dragon Prince and humans being slaves, and hating/fearing the elves...in that first episode, they kinda do, or did you miss them running and screaming when they encountered her. But then they find the Egg. That changes a LOT of things, and they are told, if they can get the Egg to the Queen of Dragons, then the conflict will be over. Notice Reyla does NOT tell them they killed dad, and never does. They find out from Sister Mage and Brother Knight, and that ALMOST causes them to turn back, and had the dragon prince not already hatched, they might have.' And they're dedicated to this mostly to try and break the cycle of hate and death that is literally part of their history going back. Humans won't win that cycle, not normally, but the elves and dragons aren't either. Heck, while they don't draw much attention to it, there are MORE humans than there are elves, by at least two, possibly as much as three orders of magnitude. Better, humans are constantly developing new things. Yes, one group of elves has higher tech, the Sun Fire ones, but that's due to a magical artifact, which was lost(And may still be in season 4 given what we're hearing). Now, do I disagree that there needs to be more conflict in this one? Nah, this series currently ends on a weird note, and I hope what we're hearing is true, that the following seasons show that 'doing the right thing' isn't always an easy or without cost' given the Trade Kingdom Prince was killed by the Child Queen, and what we're hearing is that the Trade King has cut off their relations, which actually brings back a problem the evil mage helped them solve, that being famine, while limiting their options to asking the elves for help(Which won't work since they don't have the food anyway), or turning into a bandit kingdom. We don't know that's going to happen, as it's only rumors and hearsay right now, but it sounds like fun to me.
Dragon dogma was a weird story. A dark fantasy-themed story with a bizarre twist at the end. Ignoring all the dramas and shits that happened in between, it was nice to see Hannah grow up along the journey. Would love to see another season if the story is gonna follow Hannah this time with her struggles and failure to fulfil her duty. It would make an interesting story with proper writing.
Subscriber gained. Liked the reviews and very interested in future ones. One topic I'd like too see tackled would be ressurection genre anime, just for the shits and giggles on the utter hilarity of expected roasts. 😅😅😅 Examples of the genre include The Misfit of Demon King Academy, The Strongest Sage With The Weakest Crest, and The Greatest Demon Lord is Reborn as a Typical Nobody...
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it. You know, I haven't seen any of thoise anime. I think I read the description of them and my eyes automatically turned to something else. But yeah, I think I'll give them a watch, might be fun to tear them to shreds. The next one gonna be an interesting one. A double episode comparing Goblin Slayer with the Mandalorian.
I would suggest you watch atleast the first few minutes of season 3 episodes 01. It has a flash back in the beginning to show you what happen to the first black mage and show that he was not evil like what they said.
Unfortunately that should have been front and centre during the first two seasons. The theme of the show was supposed to be both sides are flawed with a continuous cycle of revenge, but it failed at that in the first two seasons. What I liked about those seasons were the things I said in the video, the laughable morals the show brought across, the comedy and then the character portrayals. I felt that the next season would lack any of that. If the morals do become more nuanced then the fun I had laughing at the show would be lost (plus I enjoyed watching Viren which I don't think I will moving forward) and I'm sure to be less invested in the character portrayals as the plot comes to its climax whereby all the problems of the plot come crashing down on these scenes ridding them of meaning for me (and I don't think the actual comedy will hold the show up). So I'm afraid I won't continue it. Besides whenever a show loses my engagement then I rarely continue that show, no matter how far I am into it or what could be just around the corner. The best example I have is the original Legend of the Galactic Heroes which had 110 episodes and I stopped at 108.
@@dlfarmer7601 stopped two episodes before the end? Might as well finish it by thst point aha. What's your thoughts on the 108 you did watch though? Reinhard and Yang sound like the sort of characters that would be right up your ally.
@@freewyvern707 I've got quite a lot to say about them. Definetly will make a video on it but in short, I love the characters in it and the focus on strategic battles (really inspired my own writing for the battles in my book), but the plot is really poor. It felt as though it was being made up as it goes along with little direction. The final 10 or 20 episodes throw out the finely crafted battles and shred all character arcs making me really quite angry with the show so I stopped it two episodes before the end. Havent seen the remake yet and hope they don't just copy the original.
@@dlfarmer7601 could you elabourate about your opinions on the plot being poor? The plot is, in the eyes of many, one of the greatest strengths of the show, being in-depth and detailed throughout.
Your videos are really good and you give pretty good reviews on a lot of these shows. Everything else in these videos are great to watch, the editing and music for example. However, the mic quality is a bit lacking. I have to put the video on 0.75 speed to understand sometimes due to the lack of bass. Subbing and hoping the support and watching the videos will help lead to even better quality reviews.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Bought a new mic (which has decent reviews) so should be better in the next video. Also I'll try and sort out how I read my scripts. I tend to rush them sometimes or slur my words a little.
I watched season three, after season two gave me some hope that it really was going for a morally gray story that would hold the Xadian side accountable. Anyway, you made the right choice. Haven't watched the subsequent seasons.
I enjoyed Dragon's Dogma. That kid getting eaten is still funny! Then again, I don't remember much of it... other than the end being similar to the game, I think? So it was probably trash, but it was trash that occupied my eyeballs for a while! I rate it "I somewhat remember watching it" out of 10.
I would highly encourage you to whatch season 3 of TDP as it is definitly the best one. The character development for Soren and Claudia is very good and Callum and Rayla also gets some time to shine. You might have not notice but the opening sequence is narated by the "bug pall" so it's not objective truth but his interpretation /presentation of the truth to the audience.
umm, how many hours do you suggest i continue to watch because quite simply Viren is completely in the right here. He's fighting the evil elves who committed literal genocide.
the dragon prince rant felt exaggerated. First of all giving back the dragon prince wouldnt cause war, because the dragon prince is more on the peace/human side, theres is also(spoiler warning)... his mother (who is alive) that would side with him, and because elves see dragons as higher beings (more so the son and wife of the strongest dragon that we know of) they would never go against his whishes (peace), there's also a reason to believe that the story is incomplete and that there was more than "one human bad therefore every human bad". Also you need to re-watch the show because you must be mad if you believe that Viren is somehow the good guy after making every decision based on both his paranoia and ego, he literally caused both the resurgence of hate and war between humans and elves. And I am not saying that he is the devil either, he cared for the king and his kingdoom, he cares about his sons too, but he is to stubborn to see his own mistakes, like sending HIS OWN SON on a secret mission to kill the prince, causing him mental suffering from the guilt of even thinking about it and also LOSING THE ABILITY TO FUCKING WALK, forcing his daughter to follow him, gaslighting her with the idea that it is all for "the greater good". He also tries to kill the sons of the king because he believes that the kingdom would be in better hands with him (going against the king is whishes on the hardest way possible by the way), that and because he wants to kill the dragon prince as well. And last by waging war with the elves he is putting every single human life at risk on what is a 2 world war against people who can cause natural disasters at will, the only reason he even got as far as he did is because of the elf in the mirror who has been saving his ass every single fucking time And for last dark magic IS evil, while inofensive on surface level, we see how wrong it is by being definitely not natural, sucking both magic and vital energy, corrupting the user is body and mind both in prolonged use and with powerfull spells (like how they healed the brother's legs). A good way to see it is comparing it with the dark side of the force, yes you can shoot lightning but you will notice that sudenly you look like palpatine's balls. There is also even less reason to believe that dark magic is not evil.
So the anime (at least in these two seasons) never show the dragons as anything more than animals used for war and it seems even if they weren't just animals then they firmly side with the elves. Callum and Ezren have no idea what will happen when they give the elves the baby dragon. The elves are already gathering their forces at the border ready to attack, why would giving them everything they need not lead to war. Whatever the dragon prince wants (if a baby can even understand the situation its in) is irrelevant. Viren is literally the good guy. He's not doing it for his own ego or out of paranoia. The elves have been shown to be evil, what with kicking out the entire human race out of their homeland, forcing them into less fertile lands with presumably no aid at all. They then kept an insanely powerful monster guarding the border, slaughtering every person that dares try to return to their homeland (you can see mases of weapons, armour, shields when they hunt the magma giant). Viren slayed the beast, the very symbol of oppression. He should not only be thanked by his king, he should be given a parade. As for the ordering his son to kill prince Ezren it's done to save lives. Having a child king with absolute authority is terrible in peace times. Having one when humanity might be invaded by a powerful, ruthless foe is downright insane. Then having one that actually sides with the monstrous invaders is far worse. If Ezren takes the throne then all common sense will detail utter disaster for the kingdom, perhaps all humanity itself. That's why I said this is done to save many more lives. The reason why his son was chosen was simple. One he can get close to them and two he will be king when Viren is gone. He needs to learn the viciousness of the throne. There's a old tale of Sword of Damocles that kinda shows this. What happened to him was his own fault. There isn't a peace, at least not in the eyes of the human race. A far more powerful race looms over them, with monsters able to torch them all. The armies sent to kill the dragon was nothing to the creature but it slaughtered them anyway including anyone who tries to leave (the group that took the magma giant heart were already leaving when it attacked). Viren killing the dragon greatly shifts the balance of power and even better he stole the egg, no doubt with the intention of raising it to help fight for them as well. He should be celebrated as a hero. Haven't seen the third season so I don't know how the war with the elves go but sufficer to say they are very much the villains of the show even if the writers don't realise it. When you say dark magic is evil, i'm afraid it just isn't. It can be used for good and entirely depends on the user and his/her intentions. Take that dark magic spell to bring warmth to the land which saved one hundred thousand lives at the cost of one rock monster.
@@dlfarmer7601 wow, didn't expected a reply but here is my answer, first (not to sound like that guy) but you should probably watch the 3 season first before stating your opinion as a fact, second here is a list of answers Dragons: it is relevant, the dragon king was worshipped by the elves and his son would be treated no different, his mother (by the 3 season) also knows of the work of the humans to keep the prince safe and would side with them if the elves don't belive them, the point I am trying to make is that the war can be stopped with the help of the dragon prince Elves: the elves acted believing that dark magic was a treath and so was humanity as a result (pararel to viren who believes that the elves and their abundant magic power were a treath to humanity), there's also something you got wrong, they didn't got moved to infertile lands but rather lands without magic, the kingdom just happens to be in a bad place, Viren: he still is the bad guy, the conflict between humans and elve had gone stale, by killing the dragon king they just reinforced the elves is argument against humanity, this was procced by the assesinaton of the king and now it escaleted in to a new war. I don't remember if this was from the 3 season but Viren was the one who insisted the king to kill the dragon, using the death of the queen as a motive, but by doing so the conflict began again and they didn't gain anything. Again, i wont say he doesn't have good intentions but ignoring the fact that millions (both human and elfs) will die on a unescesary war with shady history is just wrong
@@draconomega The war would not end by giving the dragon prince to the elves. They were gathering their forces on their side of the border poised to attack because of the loss of Thunder (if they worshiped Thunder then why put him on the border, the most dangerous place for the elves?) without even knowing the dragon prince is alive at all. So then if the two princes (the sons of the very man who ordered Thunder killed) turn up with the dragon prince and begs to keep the peace, what reason would the elves have for not invading. As you said yourself, the elves are more powerful and see humanity as a threat. What reason would they have not to immiadatly invade? The word of prince Ezren? If the elves treated all of humanity as a threat because of one man then they are without question evil. When you say Viren sees them as a threat, I say good. At least one person sees the monstrous race capable of abhorent acts could at any moment slaughter them. We can presume the magical lands are far more fertile (since magic can be used to bring warmth, growth, etc) but even if it wasn't, the elves are forcing humanity into either an uninhabited land or inhabited land that suddenly have hundreds of thousands more mouths to feed. I am entirely on the side of Viren as should every human character in this show. From the human perspective the war should still be contiuning. They were forced out of their homeland with a far more powerful foe that uses powerful weapons After slaying the hellish beast that has been keeping the human race in check, all five human kingdoms should have banded together, uniting their armies (and mages dark or otherwise) against the elves. The show is so badly written that this just doesn't happen but at least has Viren desperatly struggling to unite the human race against the enourmous threat. Oh yeah, I did adress most of your actual arguments: ----- Peace will be restored when the dragon prince is returned It wont, the elves are evil ----- Viren's the bad guy because he sent his son to kill Ezren His son needs to learn how to rule and Ezren taking the throne will lead to disaster ----- Viren's the bad guy because he wants to kill the dragon prince I think it's more likely he wants to raise it to fight for the humans but would rather kill it than have it given to the elves. ----- Viren's the bad guy because he starts the war The war from the human perspective has never ended, they have never returned to their homeland, armies have been sent and slaughtered to kill the beast (who will kill humans even trying to flee). It was the elves fault for putting Thunder on the border. Also, (I'm adding this now) they don't send assassins to kill Viren, they target the king and prince despite it being obvious who the dark mage was. ----- Dark magic is evil It isn't. The characters use it to save far more lives. Again siting the magma heart in exchange for saving a hundred thousand people. Probably the only one I didn't address was that the story's incomplete so there's more to that story in the past (perhaps more in the third season). The thing is if the first two seasons cannot properly build it's world or at least craft a suitable perspective then I'm afraid the writers have failed.
@@dlfarmer7601 they puted the dragon king in the border to defend it, that is why the elves had to move their armys to the border, causing even more tension between both sides. Anything else is just more a mather of perspective, I can't really convince you when I haven't watched the show for so long amd when I also don't really feel confortable enough with my english to get my point across. All I can say is that you should give a try to season 3, it has way more of what you said you liked about to series. Farewell
One issue I see in Viren, which you did point out for the main cast, but not him, is not considering possible negative consequences. Pretty much all he does is warmongering, potentially leading to a bigger conflict that would result in much more death and further famines, than what he claimed to want to prevent (As well as potentially the extermination of one side in the long run, probably.) Imo he makes some quite stupid and often short-sighted decisions, one of the main ones for now is probably trusting Aaravos while knowing basically nothing about him, essentially letting himself be used in the end. I guess one of the main things however, is that in the first seasons they wanted to keep the actual background of what actually happened still hidden for the most part, thus we mainly see the human perspective so far. There is some books etc. which do show a bit more the wrongs of humanity, and a point in the show is that you can't really trust a few facts of history 100%, as there are many hidden details often enough.
When you say all he does is warmongering, I just have to say the war's already started (arguably since the moment the elves barbarically forced the human race out of their jointly owned land). Viren said that he wanted the human race to retake their homeland and I think that's pretty admirable but he never actually said he wanted the elves dead, if he had then he would never have fed the assassin, bargening with him for information (he uses the magic torture as a last resort). As for him trusting that elf bloke, that's and part of the reason why I won't continue the show as it's likely they'll make him utterly mad. Keeping the details of what happened can be really interesting, particularly if all we see is from one perspective. However, the problem is the way its done in this show. That opening in particular described what happened but in a way that made it seem the humans were in the wrong. There's never a call to arms for the human race to defend themselves, not even after the elves murder the king. Viren and that deaf knight are the only one interested in defending the human race apparently. My point is that there jsut isn't a "human" perpective at all just an overview perspective without showing us why that perspective exists. As for the books you mentioned, I don't count those. An anime, show, film should always hold up by itself without other sources.
@@dlfarmer7601 The show kinda states that humans and elves were (relatively) at peace, as Harrow points out in S1 with something along the lines of "Thank you, for starting this unwinnable war!" if I am not mistaken, in that scene where he gets mad at him. This is reiterated in Season 3, where we get the flashback of Viren convincing Harrow to kill Avizandum as revenge, where Harrow does initially hold back, thinking it would be foolish, since at the time they were at peace and flourishing for once. Yet Viren refuses to acknowledge that he created this situation himself by all the things he did up to that point. Extermination of one side isn't really avoidable with Viren's plans, considering there is a pretty good reason why dragons and elves didn't want dark magic close to them. The fact that Claudia's book seems to outline all the uses for dragon body parts as well as Viren's willingness to use the elven assassins as fuel for his dark magic without thinking twice about it shows that the need for meaningful magic would require dark mages to go out specifically for rare and sapient creatures, including Elves and Dragons. (Plus, as I said, info we have so far only gotten out of the books, which probably will be included in the show in the next 4 seasons at some point. My guess is they wanted to pad out info during the production hiatus between Season 3 and 4 until it got renewed, so interest wouldn't fade completely.) His idea for marching into Xadia is also pretty darned foolish, considering they have a lot more dragons than just Thunder/Avizandum who would wipe the floor with humanity, yet he seems to fail to even consider that such an attempt would be kinda suicidal. For that intro part, that is part of the nature of trying to keep information from you intentionally, and is turned around pretty neatly in S3 to show you what a major dick that dragon in the intro is, showing you that you can't really trust limited info you are given... But yeah, it is still the human perspective, as what we are shown is what humans would know about that backstory, and that's about it. Along with that comes preconceived notions and biases within the human characters we meet initially, such as Callum's initial beliefs, as well as that mob in that mountain town.
@@Kaymazo For centuries the human race hasn't been able to return to their homeland, forced to live in poorer kingdoms with a powerful dragon keeping an eye on them, like a far more powerful, hostile country with nukes pointed at you. For killing the dragon and ending the threat, Viren should be hailed as a hero, and should be thanked by Harrow. Because of that act they were able to send troops to defend the border themselves. The other kingdoms should've sent troops to help them immediately but because they're led by idiots they don't (or more likely the writers failed their worldbuilding). I would probably agree with the extermination of the dragons being used by the elves (I don't know if there are wild ones, if so they're fine) as they're weapons used to obliterate their enemies. As for the elves, I really don't think Viren wants to exterminate them. The assassin he tortures (who to reiterate was sent to murder his king, a close friend of his) he tried to talk to first, offered food and then offered him a chance to just leave. The dark magic torture he used was the very last option. Perhaps his plan to invade will go better if they had some sort of powerful dragon on their side, maybe raised from the moment of hatching. If they had something like that then the balance of power would certainly shift a little their way. Also as we're shown he's (rightfully) baffled that the other kingdoms decide not to help so he planned on all of humanity with every dark mage being united to fight. They still would've been at a disadvantage but it's still a chance they would take. As for the intro, ignoring that fact that it was a poor way to bring across information (should be slowly brought across to the viewer through character interactions), it should've been done purely from the human perspective, building up just how horrifying the elves were (especially through the tone and music used). What we're given was a badly done exposition dump with conflciting visuals and voiceover. Based on this history Callum should really hate elves and should even never consider returning the egg.
@@dlfarmer7601 well, the separation happened because coexistence under dark magic was kinda impossible, since one side would see the other again literally as fuel to make their lives more convenient. The humans did have primal stones before dark magic, with which they actually got by pretty well, apparently. Is it the best solution to that problem? Definitely not. But I doubt that under such circumstances not addressing it at all would arguably be worse and just cause tensions to rise until bloodshed WHILE still living in the same area. As for Harrow being thanked for killing Thunder, debatable... That only happened half a year (IIRC) before the show, so those defenses Amaya's battalion had there must've been there already, since you can't build that fast in essentially medieval times. He was essentially just a border guard himself in that regard. Also in regards to the show, dragons are sapient creatures. They are essentially people, and aren't "used" by the Elves. Eliminating them because of their threat is just about as bad, and probably more likely to bite humanity in the ass, literally and figuratively, considering there are more archdragons like Thunder/Avizandum, to whom human armies would just be chewtoys. As such raising one by humans would probably also be a good idea. A real world example of how that can backfire horribly would be Vlad Tepes... As for Callum, well, we are still also shown that. Initially he very much only made an exception for Rayla, and just hoped to avoid war (Again, if Elves and Dragons wanted to destroy humanity, they probably easily could have, even without the egg). I mean, he literally thought Rayla was offering them blood to drink, due to what he was told about Elves. That slowly changes over time though.
Oh Please look into Mob Isekai! This is such a Scarred Anime cut Lines, And Shortened Lore due to Budgets. Even small lines shows how the Character works, and acts, but they Butchered ma Boy! And yes it might..... be harem. Hopefully not but looks like they plan to go there, but the Character is Lovable. If You can, READ THE MANGA it is significantly more Detailed than the Anime.
elves: expel humans from their ancestral lands, starve humans, send dragons to terrorize humans
humans: kill dragons with black magic
Elf: THEY ARE TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE
Honestly same. Even when he turned his army into those lava peeps the spell was temporary and it only seemed evil because the show conveniently had him forget to tell his army that. I didn't know there was a third season and I'm kinda interested to see whether or not the worm actually makes him do anything he wouldn't already or is there to make him look more evil while he still continues to make tough but ultimately reasonable decisions.
dragon prince made me realize the difference between "tell" and "show".dragon prince tells that humans are bad for killing dragons with black magic but dragon prince show that elves are evil for driving humans out of their homeland, intentionally starve human and terrorizing humans with dragons just because some humans learned black magic.
Absolutely agree.
Plot twist:
Dragon Prince was an elf propaganda piece all along.
I believe that humans not being homogenus and not suffering from infighting while lacking recources is too unrealistic to watch.
You know I agree with you on most of what you've said about the humans in the show and about dark magic. How is getting magic from a magical animal any different then getting meat from a normal animal is the same thing. what the elvens and dragons did to the humans was out of fear not some righteous notion about protecting the poor and weak ( and vary powerful) monsters from dark magic
they do viren dirty he was at least in the fist 2 season of the show he is the wisest of them and the king although a good men was a shit king like what kind of a ruler lets fifty thousand of his own people stave to help some other kingdom yes it sound good but tell that to the staving people as there kids die.
I like the show and I hope there is a 4th season but they really got to work on the whole right and wrong thing they have.
Anyway love you work keep it up
I think that the problem was that while the creators can clearly write fun and compelling characters they struggled with making a story with the fate of the world as the stake.
There are many shows trying really hard to recapture the magic of Avatar the Last Airbender while trying with different levels of success to not seem like copycats.
Game of Thrones had a similar effect.
One of the big problem with the Dragon Prince is that it relies on outside sources such as comic ,books, interview, and role playing game to tell the whole backstory. If you watch the show it will make it that the Human look good and the elves bad despite the claim, but the other source has stuff that say human Genocide the Unicorn and such to make the human look bad. The Avatar didn't need mountains of book to explain everything, the book and comic simple enhanced the story not used to explain every little thing because the show didn't explain thing right or left things out.
Also sense you dealing with books or other outside source that mean not everyone going to be reading them, so if a person bring one thing up there a chance they will leave things out or those thing can be retcon later.
Like the the wiki said that the Elves came to Xadia later so they were not native to Xadia, also apparently exiling the human was consider a mercy because the first idea the New Dragon King had was killing them all till one elf princess suggested not killing them and exiling them instead , the RPG book said that the Elves were operating and assainating human in the human side way before the events of the show but people never bring these stuff up.
A reminder it is not a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY if it is committed against elves. Or dragons.
In that case it's considered humanitarian aid.
Unless they are tomboys. Then you and your entire family is fair game.
You’re not even gonna mention how the main characters father is an absolute moron and a shameful king. I honestly cannot think of one good decision he’s made as a ruler.
I guess there just wasn't any other candidates at the time or he had a really great PR team.
We do in fact see him do two good things during his reign. Agreeing to kill that one lava golem to prevent hundreds of thousands from starving and murdering the king of the dragons. Still those things should mainly be credited to Viren, the only competent leader in this confused nightmare of a setting.
It always baffles me when a story blatantly gets its good and evil mixed up. How does no one go through all the effort of writing that and realize that their bad guys are the good guys?
Agreed and it really wouldn't have taken much to demonstrate the neuance this show wants but fails to have.
But they don't! The only thingwe are shown in the DP are the perspectives or narrations of certain characters there is no saying those are good guys those are bad guys.
i've watched every episode of dragon pilot and it definitely gets better. the beginning has no real action but trust me it does get better.
Dragon Prince, yeah the intro story is kind of dumb i'll give you that. "one man made something that is inherently evil so let's banish _Literally Every_ human even though that's also inherently evil as its punishing an entire race for the misdeed of one man instead of outlaw or restrict the usage. and a race, apparently as a result or was already was, in famine would most likely need to use _MORE_ of said magic to try and solve the problem as they apparently can't use magic themselves thus can't magically help crops like everyone else probably can. There must have been more to it than that. there must have been multiple after that that tried to use some elves themselves and other sentient things as they have a _lot_ of magical potential and thus a lot more magic to solve their problem for something like that to happen. the story as is is kind of stupid but i enjoyed the journey they went on. the humor was pretty good to. when she held up the picture callum drew and it exactly matched the room man that was funny. i like the series a lot but hate the way they did it.
I think Dragon pilot really fell flat for me. The largest conflict in those first 6 episodes were one of the girls piloting one of the most powerful, rarest creatures known to man but wants to pilot an inferior jet which she's probably too young to pilot anyway. So what is the conflict in the next few episodes anyway?
As for Dragon Prince, they could've really improved it if they shown the humans doing something (literally anything) wrong. What was shown just warrants all investment into the human side and hatred of the elves hard. The humour was good in the show, I actually was going to use the example of the picture drawing to exemplify that but I cut it out (because it appeared close to the simpsons clip). Also I like the characters, their personalities are well fleshed out. It definitely is where the writers strengths lie.
@@dlfarmer7601 Now that would be spoilers. I 'll say that a few plot twists come into play and that certain events happen that reveal what their mission is and how hard it will be on both them and their dragons. The visuals on the final mission are bumped up and it definitely adds to it.
Though I will say it has something at the _Very_ end that I think should have been changed a little dialogue wise and I think you'll see what I mean if you do end up going back to see it through.
@@thatguybrody4819 Afraid I won't continue either so you don't have to worry about spoilers for me (unless you're worried about others reading this comment). Whenever a show loses any of its potential or interest then I won't watch any further. Dragon Pilot probably does improve after the sixth episode (which really wouldn't be hard) but when the writers lack any kind of conflict in the first half or make any of their characters engaging (such as overcoming weaknesses) of their anime I'm not exactly holding out hope for the second half.
If you want a Isekai that is truly bad look up, highschool prodigies have it easy in another world.
My goodness that is one to talk about. The sheer amount of potential and writing quality that gets blunderbusted is pretty amazing. Honestly I think it's more so bad its funny than anything.
it's almost like the show, dragon prince was meant to not show any group as 100% good or evil. and yeah, the kids don't know what they are doing... they are kids.
Yes. Reasonable. Good idea. I like that. Unfortunately that's not the case, he even has the weird worm thing
@@ok-yv9dd ok, weird worm thing dousn't = 100% evil. He has shown he is capable of doing good. at one point he even considered sacrificing himself for the king.
But it does. It may want to be a complex story about two sides committing different wrongs but it blatantly has elves 100% bad and humans 100% good.
@@dlfarmer7601 really? becaues that's not how I saw it at all.
@@gaz0428 That may be what you saw, but what I said was what happened. If you can give examples that exonerate the elves or prove the humans were in the wrong (e.g. going out of their way to hunt the elves or something) then I'll happily admit I was wrong.
Dragon prince was seriously borked.
Elves were the bad and in the wrong.
Agreed.
Just found your channel thanks to algorythmic gods. I really enjoy your videos and hope that you earn recognition you deserve.
Thank you so much.
Your willingness to drop some thing when its no longer worth your time is commendable.
Oh, I do that a lot. The original legend of the galactic heroes has 110 episodes and I stopped at 108 never wanting to watch the last two.
@@dlfarmer7601 Hmm not sure if that's a case of quality control failing, not wanting to end your "investment", endure a sappy epilogue or what have you, BUT I've quit at the finish line for no good reason with The melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiha. Last episodes are probably good and there's a well received movie after, but MAN was I burnt after the endless 8. Its not that what was to come was bad its just I was too "fatigued" from what came before to care.
That said more referring to the it was good than it wasn't variety. I drop it like its hot and got some frustrations when people have to stay invested or can't see the writing on the wall.
I think you’re misunderstanding The Dragon Princes’s story. I’m not saying the elves were in the right, just that everyone had their reasons. As stated before, Dark Magic relies on taking life from creatures born with magic. After humans discovered how to cast dark magic, the elves grew scared of the human race, and pushed them out, since their magic was seen as ‘wrong’ or ‘harmful’.
The dragon that was killed, was the King. It was a stupid idea for him to guard the border, but he was trying to just protect his citizens. On top of that, the humans killed of his bloodline, by destroying his only child.
So, the elves attacked back, and killed one of the human kingdom’s king. The whole conflict between Viren and literally everyone else, is that if they attacked back, a war would break out, and the cycle would continue.
The show is aiming to be morally ambiguous, without a clear ‘good’ side.
Thank you for your time.
The thing is, I can't possibly think of how the humans were in the wrong in any of their actions. After being driven from their homeland and having to establish kingdoms of themselves (which suffered in those 1000 years as shown in that famine that nearly killed a hundred thousand people).
The reason why the king of the dragons was put to guard the border was simple, because it was the most powerful. When they ventured to the border to kill the magma monster, you can see a huge number of armour, shields and swords scattered about. Therefore, you can see the dragon king massacred a huge number of humans. It is a weapon and the heir would have become another. The humans were perfectly justified to kill them both.
As for the dark magic, it really isn't inherently evil. Yes it draws on the life of other beings but it what that magic is used for that is the good or bad act. Dark magic was used to save a hundred thousand lives and several times with the main characters themselves.
The fact that the elves brutally kicked out the human race from xadia because they were so worried about one man becoming nearly equal with the elves. Makes me wonder what life was like in xadia before the humans were kicked as this all implies the elves ruled with an iron fist over the weaker humans. Considering there's so few dark magic users and so many more magic elven users with special weapons, the elves have the advantage even without their town destroying dragons. Plus we're told several times the elves were massing troops along their border ready to invade so there's that.
So the that's the elven side now for the humans. There's never a seen where the humans are committing any wrongs at all. There's no call to arms to massacre the elves and in fact there's call from multiple humans in charge to just leave them alone.
This show really wants to be a both sides have committed wrongs and the whole cycle of revenge but it utterly fails. Humans good, elves bad is what it is.
@@dlfarmer7601 Fair enough. I don't agree with all of your reasonings, but I can agree that the humans weren't doing anything inherently wrong.
@@dlfarmer7601 If your dumb ass actually ever looked at what dark magic did, you'd realize why everyone fears it. It's basically necromancy but with more versatility. Kill something, squeeze the power out of it to kill even more stuff and then squeeze even more power out of them.
It's a fucking nuclear weapon that should be the most heavily monitored and regulated thing, considering the potential of its misuse.
Plus it does appear that there are some side effects to it, like turning into the black-eyed peas when using it. I would not be surprised if some kind of a soul-rot was one of its side effects.
I had assumed Dragon Prince's anti human stance was due to the fact that most of the exposition was told to us from a more elven perspective. The narrator speaks as though he's neither human nor elf which means he'd be a dragon or similar magical being meaning he'd be opposed to humanity. Skewing the narration in the elves' favour
He's an elf. He's a very strange elf, and in fact, is on the human's side in a weird way, but still, he's an elf. There's a lot he left out, because when he stopped watching, the series was still building its myth arc, and yeah, Elves are shown to be dicks and also stupid over the next season when we get to their lands, and Dragons are even worse.
The point is it doesn't justify what the bad mage guy in the present is doing(Juries still out on if it justified past bad mage guy, his scene is actually expanded to give context to why he made the big fireball in the beginning, mostly asshole dragon).
I think it said the Narrative for the Dragon Prince was Aaravous the Star Elves that was Immprison. How he know what going on while being imprison in a mirror for thousands of years who knows?
Like he the guy who said to gave Dark Magic to human and we see that he hated some of the Elves, but he telling a Anti Human narrative? Or is he Just reading the books of what the other Elves said about the War?
The entire intro is terribly done. Putting aside that its a terrible way to bring across exposition (show don't tell), the visuals conflict with the delivery. The visuals depict the elves being terrible but the delivery make it seem like the humans were wrong. If it was a dragon or other being then it should've had a more balanced view showing why the elves did what they did.
@@SageofStars The first season should have been where we're either given the context for what happened or given a purely human perspective. That isn't what we got. Instead every human character aside from Viren act like the humans were in the wrong without ever going into why. Exposition should be weaved into the story, perhaps given a great amount of mystery to the whole event ages past. There could've been scenes where Rayla and Callum argue about the event, both giving conflicting accounts for what happened (though that would still involve them still travelling together for a different reason).
Though I am glad to hear the writers actually showed the elves being evil in the third season, just wish they did that for the first two.
Viren is very good at sounding wise and reasonable...and then his actions go against all of that. Don't listen to what he says, look at what he does. That's part of what makes him a very dangerous antagonist.
Okay, let's look at what he does. He risks his own life to try and save the queen (when fighting for the magma titan's heart), he calls for a summit of kingdoms to try and establish an alliance to defend the human race, he stole the egg ensuring the evil elves can't use a future monster to annihilate huge swaves of humans. Could you give an example of something he does that goes against his principles, i.e. defending his kingdom?
@@dlfarmer7601 Tells his son to murder the princes. Actually does send assassins to the other human kingdoms. Numerous counts of torture and murder...
Oh, yeah, and the "monster" in that egg is a child. Dude straight up stole a baby after murdering its father. Not in war, not in a duel, no, he just flat out murdered the Dragon King in cold blood.
@@Technodreamer He tells his son to murder prince Ezren because if he becomes king he will side with the elves and not defend the kingdom. As I said in the video he does it to save tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives.
Not sure what you meant about sending assassin to other human kingdoms, did it appear in season 3?
The only acts of murder we're shown was against the guards that arrest him right at the end because he's desperate to stay in power and save the kingdom. He tortured the assassin who killed his king (or at least thought he did) in order to get info out of him which could save more lives. Again the kingdom is on the edge of war with a far more powerful foe.
Yeah that child has insane power. When it grows up it will have the power to destroy entire armies, set entire cities ablaze. Had Viren allowed it to be raised by the elves it would have been turned into an ultimate weapon to use against the human race. One dragon to guard the border while the other ignites the human kingdoms. The elves have been shown to utter monsters (or at least led by such) so its really within reason that they will do it to stop the humans rising to be anywhere near the same level as them.
That dragon king slaughtered tens of thousands of humans. When they visit the border to get the magma titan heart you can see fields and fields of shields, armour, weapons, etc. Those fighters stood no chance against the dragon king and yet they were burnt to a crisp for the crime of wanting to return home. Honestly, the only reason Viren isn't paraded as a true hero of humanity is because everyone else in this show is a moron.
@@dlfarmer7601 yes he sent assasins to other kingdoms but it was on the final episode of season 9. In season 3, episode 2 it was revealed that they attacked and killed most of the rulers of the surrounding kingdoms
@@juliusnepos6013 Okay. I stopped at the end of season 2 (I'm assuming you meant final episode of season 2) so I probably missed that. Is it just specifically at the kid who refueses to send aid to save humanity or was it all of the kingdoms? If the former I can see why he might do it, still very risky. If the latter then that makes no sense at all.
Do you agree with my other arguments about Viren?
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Okay...Dragon Pilot IS a drama series. Those don't always have a bad guy...also if you watch it until the end, there is a point to this. It's a weird point, and involves going into another dragon's stomach, but it is there, and it even makes the relationship stuff work.
As to Dragon Prince, that's context. We see that there's more going on here than it seemed, the 'bad mage' guy is a lot different than what you expect, and the humans WERE oppressed back in the day, I.E. they were hovel living slaves to the elves before one human was given the power of dark magic by a glowy boy who lives in a mirror now...you get no context for that.
But yeah, both of these shows actually build from where you stopped watching. I can say Dragon Pilot isn't what you'd likely enjoy, probably dragon prince either, as the current season 3 ending is a bit wonky, due to them not knowing if they WOULD be renewed for more(They were), so they had to be a bit fast and loose with the ending. Still, we've been told more moral ambiguity is coming, and that will be neat to see. Again, just because the bad guy has some good points, doesn't mean he's not a bad guy, that's one of the points of the show.
You're right that shows don't necessarily need villains. In fact having a bunch of characters who aren't necesarily evil could be more interesting but there has to be conflict, be it physical, emotional, mental, etc. The biggest conflict in the six episodes I watched was the one girl who was piloting one of the rarest, most powerful creatures earth has ever scene and wants to pilot an inferior jet that she's probably too young to pilot anyway. I'm fine with drama based shows, for example I absolutly love dragon maid, Anohara and Steins Gate.
If what you said about Dragon Prince is true, that the human race was enslaved by the elves then that makes it so much worse. Every human character should absolutly despise the elves (more than they should). Callum and Ezren should deeply hate/fear Rayla all the way through, and all five kingdoms should celebrate every victory, large or small they have against the elves. Viren should have been given a massive parade for killing Thunder (he should have anyway but even more so with this context). The writers know how to write characters but they really fail at worldbuilding and when their story is focused on the world, well, this is the poor result.
@@dlfarmer7601 The character designs are just Studio Bone's style, similar to how Akira Toriyama's work is its own thing. So those characters are all older than they look. That said, she's not 'flying' the dragon, so much as it's flying while she's inside it, and it's NOT what she wanted to do with her life. It's like babysitting to her.
As to lack of conflict, they have at least one weird thing go on in every episode. Episode one the conflict is getting the woman to just get inside the dragon, and get her used to this odd situation she finds herself in. The second is that her 'backup' in this, who actually WANTS to do what she's doing, whereas our star character is doing this because she HAS to, is basically constantly bullying her. Third is that they broke one of the jets that was needed for a flight show, and don't have time to replace it. You could say, well, those are pretty minor. And you'd be right. Again, it's how they do it, and it is drama. It's not what you like for drama, and that's fine, but it is drama and slice of life.
As to Dragon Prince and humans being slaves, and hating/fearing the elves...in that first episode, they kinda do, or did you miss them running and screaming when they encountered her. But then they find the Egg. That changes a LOT of things, and they are told, if they can get the Egg to the Queen of Dragons, then the conflict will be over. Notice Reyla does NOT tell them they killed dad, and never does. They find out from Sister Mage and Brother Knight, and that ALMOST causes them to turn back, and had the dragon prince not already hatched, they might have.'
And they're dedicated to this mostly to try and break the cycle of hate and death that is literally part of their history going back. Humans won't win that cycle, not normally, but the elves and dragons aren't either. Heck, while they don't draw much attention to it, there are MORE humans than there are elves, by at least two, possibly as much as three orders of magnitude. Better, humans are constantly developing new things. Yes, one group of elves has higher tech, the Sun Fire ones, but that's due to a magical artifact, which was lost(And may still be in season 4 given what we're hearing).
Now, do I disagree that there needs to be more conflict in this one? Nah, this series currently ends on a weird note, and I hope what we're hearing is true, that the following seasons show that 'doing the right thing' isn't always an easy or without cost' given the Trade Kingdom Prince was killed by the Child Queen, and what we're hearing is that the Trade King has cut off their relations, which actually brings back a problem the evil mage helped them solve, that being famine, while limiting their options to asking the elves for help(Which won't work since they don't have the food anyway), or turning into a bandit kingdom.
We don't know that's going to happen, as it's only rumors and hearsay right now, but it sounds like fun to me.
Ah, I remember seeing someone with a profile of the first one talked about. Never seen the show.
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'twere a smut artist, yeah, makes sense now.
Dragon Vore obviously
You should at least watch the intro for the 3rd season, it starts like the one in season 1 but shows what that dark mage was all about.
Dragon dogma was a weird story. A dark fantasy-themed story with a bizarre twist at the end. Ignoring all the dramas and shits that happened in between, it was nice to see Hannah grow up along the journey. Would love to see another season if the story is gonna follow Hannah this time with her struggles and failure to fulfil her duty. It would make an interesting story with proper writing.
Subscriber gained. Liked the reviews and very interested in future ones.
One topic I'd like too see tackled would be ressurection genre anime, just for the shits and giggles on the utter hilarity of expected roasts. 😅😅😅
Examples of the genre include The Misfit of Demon King Academy, The Strongest Sage With The Weakest Crest, and The Greatest Demon Lord is Reborn as a Typical Nobody...
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
You know, I haven't seen any of thoise anime. I think I read the description of them and my eyes automatically turned to something else. But yeah, I think I'll give them a watch, might be fun to tear them to shreds.
The next one gonna be an interesting one. A double episode comparing Goblin Slayer with the Mandalorian.
I would suggest you watch atleast the first few minutes of season 3 episodes 01. It has a flash back in the beginning to show you what happen to the first black mage and show that he was not evil like what they said.
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Unfortunately that should have been front and centre during the first two seasons. The theme of the show was supposed to be both sides are flawed with a continuous cycle of revenge, but it failed at that in the first two seasons. What I liked about those seasons were the things I said in the video, the laughable morals the show brought across, the comedy and then the character portrayals. I felt that the next season would lack any of that. If the morals do become more nuanced then the fun I had laughing at the show would be lost (plus I enjoyed watching Viren which I don't think I will moving forward) and I'm sure to be less invested in the character portrayals as the plot comes to its climax whereby all the problems of the plot come crashing down on these scenes ridding them of meaning for me (and I don't think the actual comedy will hold the show up). So I'm afraid I won't continue it.
Besides whenever a show loses my engagement then I rarely continue that show, no matter how far I am into it or what could be just around the corner. The best example I have is the original Legend of the Galactic Heroes which had 110 episodes and I stopped at 108.
@@dlfarmer7601 stopped two episodes before the end? Might as well finish it by thst point aha.
What's your thoughts on the 108 you did watch though? Reinhard and Yang sound like the sort of characters that would be right up your ally.
@@freewyvern707 I've got quite a lot to say about them. Definetly will make a video on it but in short, I love the characters in it and the focus on strategic battles (really inspired my own writing for the battles in my book), but the plot is really poor. It felt as though it was being made up as it goes along with little direction. The final 10 or 20 episodes throw out the finely crafted battles and shred all character arcs making me really quite angry with the show so I stopped it two episodes before the end.
Havent seen the remake yet and hope they don't just copy the original.
@@dlfarmer7601 could you elabourate about your opinions on the plot being poor? The plot is, in the eyes of many, one of the greatest strengths of the show, being in-depth and detailed throughout.
Jane and the Dragon is one of the kind show that you should watch. It's a 2005 3D show with graphics aged like wine with good simple stories.
I'm glad i found you channel, its good c:
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Your videos are really good and you give pretty good reviews on a lot of these shows.
Everything else in these videos are great to watch, the editing and music for example.
However, the mic quality is a bit lacking. I have to put the video on 0.75 speed to understand sometimes
due to the lack of bass.
Subbing and hoping the support and watching the videos will help lead to even better quality reviews.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Bought a new mic (which has decent reviews) so should be better in the next video. Also I'll try and sort out how I read my scripts. I tend to rush them sometimes or slur my words a little.
I watched season three, after season two gave me some hope that it really was going for a morally gray story that would hold the Xadian side accountable.
Anyway, you made the right choice. Haven't watched the subsequent seasons.
Dragon pilot is cute vore content.
Never thought those tho words could ever go togheter. But... I guess it owrks there. Huh.
"owrks" I think the word you're trying to say is "works"
Hope he covers some light novels, manga, and mahwa some day.
Never read manga or light novels before. My reviews centre on anime as it should hold up by itself.
Great channel, I hope you'll do a Gurren Lagann video in the future
Love the Shad refference.
I like Shadiversity too!!!
I enjoyed Dragon's Dogma. That kid getting eaten is still funny! Then again, I don't remember much of it... other than the end being similar to the game, I think? So it was probably trash, but it was trash that occupied my eyeballs for a while!
I rate it "I somewhat remember watching it" out of 10.
I would highly encourage you to whatch season 3 of TDP as it is definitly the best one. The character development for Soren and Claudia is very good and Callum and Rayla also gets some time to shine. You might have not notice but the opening sequence is narated by the "bug pall" so it's not objective truth but his interpretation /presentation of the truth to the audience.
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Will you review mushoku tensei.
Definetly got that on the list. Next one's gonna be Pacific Rim the black
You should really watch the whole thing then it will make sense. Also, they’re sort of fighting someone or something.
umm, how many hours do you suggest i continue to watch because quite simply Viren is completely in the right here. He's fighting the evil elves who committed literal genocide.
the dragon prince rant felt exaggerated. First of all giving back the dragon prince wouldnt cause war, because the dragon prince is more on the peace/human side, theres is also(spoiler warning)...
his mother (who is alive) that would side with him, and because elves see dragons as higher beings (more so the son and wife of the strongest dragon that we know of) they would never go against his whishes (peace), there's also a reason to believe that the story is incomplete and that there was more than "one human bad therefore every human bad".
Also you need to re-watch the show because you must be mad if you believe that Viren is somehow the good guy after making every decision based on both his paranoia and ego, he literally caused both the resurgence of hate and war between humans and elves. And I am not saying that he is the devil either, he cared for the king and his kingdoom, he cares about his sons too, but he is to stubborn to see his own mistakes, like sending HIS OWN SON on a secret mission to kill the prince, causing him mental suffering from the guilt of even thinking about it and also LOSING THE ABILITY TO FUCKING WALK, forcing his daughter to follow him, gaslighting her with the idea that it is all for "the greater good". He also tries to kill the sons of the king because he believes that the kingdom would be in better hands with him (going against the king is whishes on the hardest way possible by the way), that and because he wants to kill the dragon prince as well. And last by waging war with the elves he is putting every single human life at risk on what is a 2 world war against people who can cause natural disasters at will, the only reason he even got as far as he did is because of the elf in the mirror who has been saving his ass every single fucking time
And for last dark magic IS evil, while inofensive on surface level, we see how wrong it is by being definitely not natural, sucking both magic and vital energy, corrupting the user is body and mind both in prolonged use and with powerfull spells (like how they healed the brother's legs). A good way to see it is comparing it with the dark side of the force, yes you can shoot lightning but you will notice that sudenly you look like palpatine's balls. There is also even less reason to believe that dark magic is not evil.
So the anime (at least in these two seasons) never show the dragons as anything more than animals used for war and it seems even if they weren't just animals then they firmly side with the elves. Callum and Ezren have no idea what will happen when they give the elves the baby dragon. The elves are already gathering their forces at the border ready to attack, why would giving them everything they need not lead to war. Whatever the dragon prince wants (if a baby can even understand the situation its in) is irrelevant.
Viren is literally the good guy. He's not doing it for his own ego or out of paranoia. The elves have been shown to be evil, what with kicking out the entire human race out of their homeland, forcing them into less fertile lands with presumably no aid at all. They then kept an insanely powerful monster guarding the border, slaughtering every person that dares try to return to their homeland (you can see mases of weapons, armour, shields when they hunt the magma giant). Viren slayed the beast, the very symbol of oppression. He should not only be thanked by his king, he should be given a parade.
As for the ordering his son to kill prince Ezren it's done to save lives. Having a child king with absolute authority is terrible in peace times. Having one when humanity might be invaded by a powerful, ruthless foe is downright insane. Then having one that actually sides with the monstrous invaders is far worse. If Ezren takes the throne then all common sense will detail utter disaster for the kingdom, perhaps all humanity itself. That's why I said this is done to save many more lives.
The reason why his son was chosen was simple. One he can get close to them and two he will be king when Viren is gone. He needs to learn the viciousness of the throne. There's a old tale of Sword of Damocles that kinda shows this. What happened to him was his own fault.
There isn't a peace, at least not in the eyes of the human race. A far more powerful race looms over them, with monsters able to torch them all. The armies sent to kill the dragon was nothing to the creature but it slaughtered them anyway including anyone who tries to leave (the group that took the magma giant heart were already leaving when it attacked). Viren killing the dragon greatly shifts the balance of power and even better he stole the egg, no doubt with the intention of raising it to help fight for them as well. He should be celebrated as a hero.
Haven't seen the third season so I don't know how the war with the elves go but sufficer to say they are very much the villains of the show even if the writers don't realise it.
When you say dark magic is evil, i'm afraid it just isn't. It can be used for good and entirely depends on the user and his/her intentions. Take that dark magic spell to bring warmth to the land which saved one hundred thousand lives at the cost of one rock monster.
@@dlfarmer7601 wow, didn't expected a reply but here is my answer, first (not to sound like that guy) but you should probably watch the 3 season first before stating your opinion as a fact, second here is a list of answers
Dragons: it is relevant, the dragon king was worshipped by the elves and his son would be treated no different, his mother (by the 3 season) also knows of the work of the humans to keep the prince safe and would side with them if the elves don't belive them, the point I am trying to make is that the war can be stopped with the help of the dragon prince
Elves: the elves acted believing that dark magic was a treath and so was humanity as a result (pararel to viren who believes that the elves and their abundant magic power were a treath to humanity), there's also something you got wrong, they didn't got moved to infertile lands but rather lands without magic, the kingdom just happens to be in a bad place,
Viren: he still is the bad guy, the conflict between humans and elve had gone stale, by killing the dragon king they just reinforced the elves is argument against humanity, this was procced by the assesinaton of the king and now it escaleted in to a new war. I don't remember if this was from the 3 season but Viren was the one who insisted the king to kill the dragon, using the death of the queen as a motive, but by doing so the conflict began again and they didn't gain anything. Again, i wont say he doesn't have good intentions but ignoring the fact that millions (both human and elfs) will die on a unescesary war with shady history is just wrong
@@dlfarmer7601 Also you didn't respond to any of my actual arguments
@@draconomega The war would not end by giving the dragon prince to the elves. They were gathering their forces on their side of the border poised to attack because of the loss of Thunder (if they worshiped Thunder then why put him on the border, the most dangerous place for the elves?) without even knowing the dragon prince is alive at all. So then if the two princes (the sons of the very man who ordered Thunder killed) turn up with the dragon prince and begs to keep the peace, what reason would the elves have for not invading. As you said yourself, the elves are more powerful and see humanity as a threat. What reason would they have not to immiadatly invade? The word of prince Ezren?
If the elves treated all of humanity as a threat because of one man then they are without question evil. When you say Viren sees them as a threat, I say good. At least one person sees the monstrous race capable of abhorent acts could at any moment slaughter them. We can presume the magical lands are far more fertile (since magic can be used to bring warmth, growth, etc) but even if it wasn't, the elves are forcing humanity into either an uninhabited land or inhabited land that suddenly have hundreds of thousands more mouths to feed.
I am entirely on the side of Viren as should every human character in this show. From the human perspective the war should still be contiuning. They were forced out of their homeland with a far more powerful foe that uses powerful weapons After slaying the hellish beast that has been keeping the human race in check, all five human kingdoms should have banded together, uniting their armies (and mages dark or otherwise) against the elves. The show is so badly written that this just doesn't happen but at least has Viren desperatly struggling to unite the human race against the enourmous threat.
Oh yeah, I did adress most of your actual arguments:
----- Peace will be restored when the dragon prince is returned
It wont, the elves are evil
----- Viren's the bad guy because he sent his son to kill Ezren
His son needs to learn how to rule and Ezren taking the throne will lead to disaster
----- Viren's the bad guy because he wants to kill the dragon prince
I think it's more likely he wants to raise it to fight for the humans but would rather kill it than have it given to the elves.
----- Viren's the bad guy because he starts the war
The war from the human perspective has never ended, they have never returned to their homeland, armies have been sent and slaughtered to kill the beast (who will kill humans even trying to flee). It was the elves fault for putting Thunder on the border. Also, (I'm adding this now) they don't send assassins to kill Viren, they target the king and prince despite it being obvious who the dark mage was.
----- Dark magic is evil
It isn't. The characters use it to save far more lives. Again siting the magma heart in exchange for saving a hundred thousand people.
Probably the only one I didn't address was that the story's incomplete so there's more to that story in the past (perhaps more in the third season). The thing is if the first two seasons cannot properly build it's world or at least craft a suitable perspective then I'm afraid the writers have failed.
@@dlfarmer7601 they puted the dragon king in the border to defend it, that is why the elves had to move their armys to the border, causing even more tension between both sides.
Anything else is just more a mather of perspective, I can't really convince you when I haven't watched the show for so long amd when I also don't really feel confortable enough with my english to get my point across. All I can say is that you should give a try to season 3, it has way more of what you said you liked about to series. Farewell
One issue I see in Viren, which you did point out for the main cast, but not him, is not considering possible negative consequences. Pretty much all he does is warmongering, potentially leading to a bigger conflict that would result in much more death and further famines, than what he claimed to want to prevent (As well as potentially the extermination of one side in the long run, probably.) Imo he makes some quite stupid and often short-sighted decisions, one of the main ones for now is probably trusting Aaravos while knowing basically nothing about him, essentially letting himself be used in the end.
I guess one of the main things however, is that in the first seasons they wanted to keep the actual background of what actually happened still hidden for the most part, thus we mainly see the human perspective so far. There is some books etc. which do show a bit more the wrongs of humanity, and a point in the show is that you can't really trust a few facts of history 100%, as there are many hidden details often enough.
When you say all he does is warmongering, I just have to say the war's already started (arguably since the moment the elves barbarically forced the human race out of their jointly owned land). Viren said that he wanted the human race to retake their homeland and I think that's pretty admirable but he never actually said he wanted the elves dead, if he had then he would never have fed the assassin, bargening with him for information (he uses the magic torture as a last resort).
As for him trusting that elf bloke, that's and part of the reason why I won't continue the show as it's likely they'll make him utterly mad.
Keeping the details of what happened can be really interesting, particularly if all we see is from one perspective. However, the problem is the way its done in this show. That opening in particular described what happened but in a way that made it seem the humans were in the wrong. There's never a call to arms for the human race to defend themselves, not even after the elves murder the king. Viren and that deaf knight are the only one interested in defending the human race apparently. My point is that there jsut isn't a "human" perpective at all just an overview perspective without showing us why that perspective exists. As for the books you mentioned, I don't count those. An anime, show, film should always hold up by itself without other sources.
@@dlfarmer7601 The show kinda states that humans and elves were (relatively) at peace, as Harrow points out in S1 with something along the lines of "Thank you, for starting this unwinnable war!" if I am not mistaken, in that scene where he gets mad at him.
This is reiterated in Season 3, where we get the flashback of Viren convincing Harrow to kill Avizandum as revenge, where Harrow does initially hold back, thinking it would be foolish, since at the time they were at peace and flourishing for once. Yet Viren refuses to acknowledge that he created this situation himself by all the things he did up to that point.
Extermination of one side isn't really avoidable with Viren's plans, considering there is a pretty good reason why dragons and elves didn't want dark magic close to them. The fact that Claudia's book seems to outline all the uses for dragon body parts as well as Viren's willingness to use the elven assassins as fuel for his dark magic without thinking twice about it shows that the need for meaningful magic would require dark mages to go out specifically for rare and sapient creatures, including Elves and Dragons. (Plus, as I said, info we have so far only gotten out of the books, which probably will be included in the show in the next 4 seasons at some point. My guess is they wanted to pad out info during the production hiatus between Season 3 and 4 until it got renewed, so interest wouldn't fade completely.)
His idea for marching into Xadia is also pretty darned foolish, considering they have a lot more dragons than just Thunder/Avizandum who would wipe the floor with humanity, yet he seems to fail to even consider that such an attempt would be kinda suicidal.
For that intro part, that is part of the nature of trying to keep information from you intentionally, and is turned around pretty neatly in S3 to show you what a major dick that dragon in the intro is, showing you that you can't really trust limited info you are given... But yeah, it is still the human perspective, as what we are shown is what humans would know about that backstory, and that's about it. Along with that comes preconceived notions and biases within the human characters we meet initially, such as Callum's initial beliefs, as well as that mob in that mountain town.
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@@Kaymazo For centuries the human race hasn't been able to return to their homeland, forced to live in poorer kingdoms with a powerful dragon keeping an eye on them, like a far more powerful, hostile country with nukes pointed at you. For killing the dragon and ending the threat, Viren should be hailed as a hero, and should be thanked by Harrow. Because of that act they were able to send troops to defend the border themselves. The other kingdoms should've sent troops to help them immediately but because they're led by idiots they don't (or more likely the writers failed their worldbuilding).
I would probably agree with the extermination of the dragons being used by the elves (I don't know if there are wild ones, if so they're fine) as they're weapons used to obliterate their enemies. As for the elves, I really don't think Viren wants to exterminate them. The assassin he tortures (who to reiterate was sent to murder his king, a close friend of his) he tried to talk to first, offered food and then offered him a chance to just leave. The dark magic torture he used was the very last option.
Perhaps his plan to invade will go better if they had some sort of powerful dragon on their side, maybe raised from the moment of hatching. If they had something like that then the balance of power would certainly shift a little their way. Also as we're shown he's (rightfully) baffled that the other kingdoms decide not to help so he planned on all of humanity with every dark mage being united to fight. They still would've been at a disadvantage but it's still a chance they would take.
As for the intro, ignoring that fact that it was a poor way to bring across information (should be slowly brought across to the viewer through character interactions), it should've been done purely from the human perspective, building up just how horrifying the elves were (especially through the tone and music used). What we're given was a badly done exposition dump with conflciting visuals and voiceover. Based on this history Callum should really hate elves and should even never consider returning the egg.
@@dlfarmer7601 well, the separation happened because coexistence under dark magic was kinda impossible, since one side would see the other again literally as fuel to make their lives more convenient. The humans did have primal stones before dark magic, with which they actually got by pretty well, apparently. Is it the best solution to that problem? Definitely not. But I doubt that under such circumstances not addressing it at all would arguably be worse and just cause tensions to rise until bloodshed WHILE still living in the same area.
As for Harrow being thanked for killing Thunder, debatable... That only happened half a year (IIRC) before the show, so those defenses Amaya's battalion had there must've been there already, since you can't build that fast in essentially medieval times. He was essentially just a border guard himself in that regard.
Also in regards to the show, dragons are sapient creatures. They are essentially people, and aren't "used" by the Elves. Eliminating them because of their threat is just about as bad, and probably more likely to bite humanity in the ass, literally and figuratively, considering there are more archdragons like Thunder/Avizandum, to whom human armies would just be chewtoys. As such raising one by humans would probably also be a good idea. A real world example of how that can backfire horribly would be Vlad Tepes...
As for Callum, well, we are still also shown that. Initially he very much only made an exception for Rayla, and just hoped to avoid war (Again, if Elves and Dragons wanted to destroy humanity, they probably easily could have, even without the egg). I mean, he literally thought Rayla was offering them blood to drink, due to what he was told about Elves. That slowly changes over time though.
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This is such a Scarred Anime cut Lines, And Shortened Lore due to Budgets.
Even small lines shows how the Character works, and acts, but they Butchered ma Boy!
And yes it might..... be harem.
Hopefully not but looks like they plan to go there, but the Character is Lovable.
If You can, READ THE MANGA it is significantly more Detailed than the Anime.
Have you watched bubble yet?
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