I mean….can the guy play anything that sounds good…? After the age of 15 this “fast-finger” BS sounds like trash. So I ask, again, can he play anything good?
He’s undeniably talented. But going to a show, (unprompted and without even knowing the guys) insisting another guitar player plays for you only for you to show off and demonstrate how amazing you are is so weird and pathetic. With that being said however, I wouldn’t expect anything less from a jazz guitarist, let alone the French.
Yes you said it right this was incredibly pathetic and you run into these types in every music scene! Like if you’re so good dude get up there and play!
bro it’s not that deep it’s js musicians bonding together and noodling around having fun. js cuz it’s jazz and he’s french don’t mean he’s automatically pretentious 😭
@@Steven-zf9lf so a guy coming up to you at your show and shoves a guitar in your hand and says “play play play” and you’re like ok I guess here’s some riffs and then he goes “ok now watch how much better I am then you by endlessly playing fast jazz lines” isn’t pretentious? If he was bonding he would have asked to jam with him or ask if he knows and jazz or would like to learn some.
The same. Because he behaves that way. Gosh, do people in shorts behave this way intentionally for the retention time? Or are they having a hard time with their communication skills?
@@stonemanguitars French did teach you the most polileness lessons, so that speaking with french words in is considered as the best education mark ... But of course, not all franch are polite guys, as well as people like you are not all @ssholes.
@@stonemanguitars French poilteness is regarded as the most evoluated one by the most educated people ... But not all french persons are well educated, as well as some people like you may be well educated, of course.
@@BlackSun3Tubefrench dudes are assholes & CAN be alright & there are nice geezers, & french girls can be assholes but usually are very nice, you sound like you have zero clue wtf you are saying.
@@warshipsatin8764 Well its a language that for a fact a whopping majority dont speak. And given the population of those who do is so small, theres really no point if more or less the goal of good music is usually to have it be relatable to many people…
@@TheNamesFarquaad "the goal of good music is to have it be relatable to many people" i guess the billboard top 40 is the best music in the world then. thanks for the insight
Any nerd can lock themselves away for years and learn how to play fast and develop some kind of skill. When it comes to music life experience and style is the most important. This guy just looks like a nerd masturbating his guitar, not playing anything worth anything
Exacly, thats why "Jazz" or any other folk music is most important than just the pentatonic scale, is not for everyone, not everyone heard the changes on the music
@@elpibelol5005you really don’t have to, to know that was trash. Like sonically I would never listen to that but like technicality wise yeah it’s good and he’s going crazy but that doesn’t equate to good music.
@@Sameold87I don't believe it's "fragile" to say that the people in the video were objectively being assholes. They knew what they were doing, and they knew they'd get attention for it. If I see a fully grown adult chokeslam some random kid in the street should I walk up to the kid and say "hey, stop being so fragile". If anything, it shows how fragile the two guys in the video are, that they need to boost their egos by showing off to strangers. It's pretty pathetic.
@@DarkPlaysThingswhat a crappy analogy. This kids got plenty of skill, enough to post his chops for full view and criticism all day everyday. I'm sure someone doing a practice line in front of him probably didn't crack his skull, break his back, get him choked, or get this, probably didn't even hurt his feelings. 😮 Soft out here these days.
They are just like this since Django. So... This just the way it is. The youtuber guy's Jimi-stg.scratch was also pathetic on that guitar with the 12-13 strings.
Guitar culture sucks now. It’s not a competition. Edit: I’ve gotten 15 comments with the same reply; that it has always been that way. Yes, but social media hasn’t helped.
@@LunaticsRomanticRecords I mean, musicians can come from different schools of thought, that’s fine. Expression and knowledge go hand in hand… artistic expression usually through playing by ear is awesome… likewise, having a deep understanding of theory is also awesome… the best players have both… bottom line… it’s no competition… there’s always someone better, so approaching music competitively is a waste of energy.
It seems like he was just trying to show off and make him look better to his friends, kinda shitty if you ask me. It shouldn’t be a competition it should just be about loving the music and playing how you want to play
The same reason most people only listens to certain bands and don't listen to others till they make it up there. Because of love and not competition. 😂
As a french guy i can assure you that he says ''it's good to play with him'' in the tone of his voice you can understand that it is absolutly ironic, he didn't wanted to play with him but against Mickey. French man asked him to play only to show he was faster/better than him... Absolutly disgusting, he just wanted to show that he had a bigger one. Ego at its worst!
This was clearly a bout of egos. The first guy playing sounded good, the second guy tried to prove his superiority. We don’t accept him in the music community, unless it’s some sort of collaboration-like skit.
@@gatesandguitars I understand brother, I’ve played the piano for 17 years and the drums for 12. I’m 22. All I’m saying is, there’s no need to bash others, through your musical prowess. It was clear that was the intention, with the talented guitarist saying repeatedly “play it, play it!” Like some fanatic.
Yeah hes good, but what hes playing doesn't sound good. I played Takanaka for one of my buddies and he was laughing at the guy playing slow. Speed doesnt equal good music.
@@mrquick6775 You can’t just use buzzwords to undermine people you don’t like. Soul can really just be defined as passionate arbitrary playing which is what he did. Such is even substantiated by him showing such pride.
No way, this dude asked some dude to play his guitar but then he just flexed his skill. Is this an ego thing? I'm also able to play fast but I'm not going around showing off my skill to an unsuspecting guitarist
Happened to me in a guitar store once. I was only playing for 1 year at this point and playing over the hills and far away on an acoustic guitar when some guy behind me just started to do the same but in the most jazzed up way possible
Remember guys: 1) it's not a competition. 2) 2 of the most famous riffs are indeed Seven nation army and 0 3 5, it's not only about speed. Be humble and enjoy music
Only constructive comment here. What’s with people speaking on a genre they know nothing about in an authoritative manner. It’s absolutely mind boggling
For every "Music Expert" who says Jazz it's just playing fast scales. I had a Question for you. Can you play one Scale over the entire Fretboard thats not a pentatonic Shape ?
@@andrewreillymusic2773 because you never listened a gypsy jazz composition, check Angelo de barre, la manouche for example. Then you would stream it. Then, all of these comments only because the guy here in the full video says that jazz is some kind of bastardised blues... I invite you to listen to my example change my mind guy. Then there's classical music->jazz->blues and everything else. This is the history of music, but the only postulates of our Occidental music are in classical and jazz, the rest is just derived. And it's funny to see how the human kind with the century's flowing tend to prefer simpler and simpler music (I like it too sometimes don't worry).
@nicolasmecaj meh, I've always been a fan of gypsy jazz but the dude in this video is just ripping scales with not much rhythmic movement. I prefer a bit more rhythmic tension and release, but for just noodling that was nuts.
No other musicians geek out on Mindless noodling the way guitarists do. That's why there's a million videos of kids sitting in their bedrooms playing the fastest things that they can. SMH
Nah the 2nd guy is definitely playing way more melodic lines. It may be too fast for you to comprehend. The 1st guy is chucking nicely and it feels good. Both are great just two totally different things happening
I wouldn’t be regretting anything, you played ur style of music well and so did he, you both shared something. If he was only trying to show off, he’s gotta learn what music’s about 🤷♂️
for people that say its not music, he is playing jazz and most likely improvising, and if you think jazz solos are not music, than you clearly know shit about playing guitar
Jazz solos are music and I love them, i just don't enjoy listening to HIS noodling personally when he is playing fast just for the sake of playing fast.
@@Dovahkiin0117 honestly i like the way he play the guitar bro, really , both of the guys playing great 😅, and i agree with u , everyone has a taste and maybe some style doesnt fit ur preffrence😅, sorry my englsh is bad hehe
Everyone saying that hes not playing good and too fast dosent understand the point. If you can play fast you have to have started slow. So that means you built your way up to a level that non musicians dont understand beacuse its harder to understand thus the claiming its less ARTFULL then slow music which is false. I think people are jealous or else they would be saying (wow that was fast and impressive) and not (thats not even music!!)
I hope that guy has visited this comment section and seen that everyone thought he was a tool with an overinflated ego. Play with me, not at me. don’t play to show up people or feel better than others, play because it makes you happy man. I prefer what Mikey played because it came from a positive place.
@@CAM_667 what bashing? Did I lie about something? Clearly a lot of people agree that they have a problem with being extremely cocky and arrogant. I pointed out a very obvious flaw in all that pride that apparently they are blind to see.
@@3volk715 im french, i gotta say the guy in the video cross the boundarys of dumbness yes, but all french are not assholes, just the goofy parisians, i got a tip for you DONT GO NEAR PARIS, come in our little villages or less known Cities i promise you you’ll see us differently.
I reckon it probably tends to happen in any creative field that's as over-crowded and romanticised, I guess everone's desperate to stand out as the one thats better than everyone else
I'm a musician and am not competitive at all...I actually refuse to compete with anyone...refuse...but I'm quite capable of running scales like that pretty fast I mean...it's not hard to memorize scale patterns and the learn to alternate pick...learn a couple picking patterns like groups of six or whatever any even number works with alternate picking...it doesn't even matter...his playing really doesn't impress me much at all...I'm just being honest...the first guy would be much more fun to jam with...
I'm not competitive and I avoid working with people who try to compete with me. I don't like it. Yeah I'm not the best but I don't want to be around people that keep trying to remind me they are better just to stroke their egos.
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843because it does you tasteless hooligan. There's a reason jazz is heralded as an achievement, because it exists to be difficult and a musician's music, something that you need to understand to enjoy.
@angusrowan3443 no ones saying hes a bad player. U can be a god of shredding and still play something that just has too much going on. Jazz is cool shredding fast on jazz doesn't sound good
On a brief inventory of the comment section, I see that in the guitarist community, people are still better at talking shit about other guitarists than actually playing their instrument
Honestly his talent doesn't go very far, though... He is just fairly quick at matching a key and playing scales quickly. And this is cool and all, but... It doesn't do much for many. And that says absolutely zero about music crafting, making a melody, much less a song, or shaking any type of emotion in the music you play. There are generally two big parts to playing great music (there are obviously many more, but for this we will say these two). One is the technical side and one of the emotional side. And his technical side is just alright.... And that is because he has only focused on one portion of the technical side - speed in scales in an identified key. He showed absolutely zero effort towards evoking emotion behind his playing. Much less forming an actual song or structure in what he played.. just noodling a scale. Fine for practice, but let's see you make someone tear up to your "music" when playing like this. Or enjoy is even a bit outright. It's a fun show of speed but that's about it. And let's be honest, the finesse in what he played wasn't there, either. The guy is a fraud who focused on all the wrong things. And his sole purpose where was to try to one up the other dude. How is that ok?
@@mbg4041but the funky riffing is just some dominant 9 chord changing to a IV chord with incredibly common rhythm for funk. This is what I play if someone forced me to play funk and I just wanted to do the most obvious thing. The other guy played the changes over many chords, with interesting voice leading and connecting with arpeggios, he used cool sequences and sweeping, he use string skipping, etc. He did so much more and actually made musical phrasing rather than just Funk in E cliches. Everyone here is coping or way more likely knows nothing about jazz, bebop phrasing and what playing changes even means
This comment section is braindead. He is definitely not just playing scales. You can clearly hear him outlining chord changes. You might not like this type of music, but he is very talented no doubt.
He is noodling with no actual musical intention. Yes, he’s obviously very talented and I’m sure he COULD play actual music, but that was not on display here.
@@itsjustlogic7232 I know what bebop is. I love Charlie Parker and have transcribed a few of his solos on guitar. But what this guy is doing is just noodling. It’s very clearly just the kind of mindless stuff we all do when we pick up our guitars.
The French guy is playing a pattern that is easy to do using sweep picking. That’s why it repeats so many times. He’s stuck in that pattern and it prevents him from playing freely and melodically. It sounds like crap
Good player, yea, sure. But one style most of us can listen to for more than 10 seconds while the other is played by a French guy arrogantly assuming 1,000,000 notes a second is "superior" playing. I'm gonna guess he didn't ask "how fast can you play?" ... Just handed a guitar to him and said "here, you play" then when he got the guitar back he played a million notes to think he upstaged the first player. It's mildly impressive that he has that skill, but the smug attitude is too Parisian French for me to like.
Then again, these kind of problems only exist if you treat music as a sport where someone has to `win` and `lose` instead of a beautiful, emotional and extremely enjoyable form of art ;)
Playing fast doesn't prove anything thats what most people think nowadays playing melodies keeping time and just being able to play at all flashyness isn't needed ever in music that's not the point
Bro was stroking his ego till it was raw 💀
Right? Down to the bone jajajaha
Lmao bro even made moaning noise when he fucked up
Cringe
No lotion
I mean….can the guy play anything that sounds good…? After the age of 15 this “fast-finger” BS sounds like trash. So I ask, again, can he play anything good?
Jazz heads..
The best
@@diffusewings4937 false
@@diffusewings4937fuck no
French jazz heads * they are very insecure
@@RabbiB0Ygit gud
He’s undeniably talented. But going to a show, (unprompted and without even knowing the guys) insisting another guitar player plays for you only for you to show off and demonstrate how amazing you are is so weird and pathetic. With that being said however, I wouldn’t expect anything less from a jazz guitarist, let alone the French.
Yes you said it right this was incredibly pathetic and you run into these types in every music scene! Like if you’re so good dude get up there and play!
bro it’s not that deep it’s js musicians bonding together and noodling around having fun. js cuz it’s jazz and he’s french don’t mean he’s automatically pretentious 😭
@@Steven-zf9lfdamn right!
@@Steven-zf9lf so a guy coming up to you at your show and shoves a guitar in your hand and says “play play play” and you’re like ok I guess here’s some riffs and then he goes “ok now watch how much better I am then you by endlessly playing fast jazz lines” isn’t pretentious? If he was bonding he would have asked to jam with him or ask if he knows and jazz or would like to learn some.
the only reason you think this guy is "showing off" is your own insecurity
i thought he was gonna make you play a broken guitar and then once you played he was gonna say you broke it and scam you
Same here 😂
no he just made a video about his ego being hurt without saying his ego was hurt
The same. Because he behaves that way. Gosh, do people in shorts behave this way intentionally for the retention time? Or are they having a hard time with their communication skills?
“Play, play”. Dude was so aggressive😂😂😂
He's french. What do you expect?
@@stonemanguitars French did teach you the most polileness lessons, so that speaking with french words in is considered as the best education mark ...
But of course, not all franch are polite guys, as well as people like you are not all @ssholes.
@@stonemanguitars French poilteness is regarded as the most evoluated one by the most educated people ...
But not all french persons are well educated, as well as some people like you may be well educated, of course.
@@BlackSun3Tubefrench dudes are assholes & CAN be alright & there are nice geezers, & french girls can be assholes but usually are very nice, you sound like you have zero clue wtf you are saying.
@@stonemanguitarsego strong
The second guy must be real fun at parties
Just goes around with his guitar trapping people into his wankery.
Nah that's like the average jazz player
He is the party
"PLAY PLAY.... ZEE FEST-air YOU PLAY, ZEE FEST-air I CAN BE BEzz-air THAN YOU!!!"
No girl would ever want to sit on his face, look at his nerd face
And most importantly: guitar playing is not a competition...and he was just noodling...
Guitarists will be impressed because that's what we do. Anyone who doesn't play guitar or not into music would not mind those chops one second. Lol..
Guitarists will be impressed because that's what we do. Anyone who doesn't play guitar or not into music would not mind those chops one second. Lol..
Ok but like undeniably that’s extremely difficult and it’s very funny he just whipped it out. like you don’t have to be a wet flannel about this
@KindaKaon a social observation is okay, you don't need to be a wet wool sweater
Not all improvising is noodling
He’s a gypsy jazz guitarist, met him in Paris once. He’s a very nice guy indeed
doesnt look too nice here
He didn't seem nice tyring diss Americans like we aren't better than his terrorist country
Nice? 💀 Bro just want to show off and have his ego boosted
If this is considered a nice guy in france. I can't imagine what kind of monster is the worst guy lol
@@ceiboeater4815 He is french lowest of the low
This is the guy that starts playing next to me at Guitar Center 30 seconds after I start trying out a guitar. Every… single… time.
😂😂😂😂
Being a skilled jazz musician is like mastering 100 languages and having nothing to say...
theyre saying plenty of things, just in languages you dont understand.
@@warshipsatin8764In languages that nobody speaks, so whats the point…
@@TheNamesFarquaad just because you dont speak it doesnt mean nobody does
@@warshipsatin8764 Well its a language that for a fact a whopping majority dont speak. And given the population of those who do is so small, theres really no point if more or less the goal of good music is usually to have it be relatable to many people…
@@TheNamesFarquaad "the goal of good music is to have it be relatable to many people"
i guess the billboard top 40 is the best music in the world then. thanks for the insight
Jazz players are extremely talented but no one gives a fuck….that’s the stereotype, You’d get a bigger audience playing your pentatonic scales 😂
So true
Any nerd can lock themselves away for years and learn how to play fast and develop some kind of skill. When it comes to music life experience and style is the most important. This guy just looks like a nerd masturbating his guitar, not playing anything worth anything
Exacly, thats why "Jazz" or any other folk music is most important than just the pentatonic scale, is not for everyone, not everyone heard the changes on the music
@@michelmv9922 yip plus jazz actually sounds good especially the cool scales and sharps and flat notes it's a master peace.
@michelmv9922 in blues we dont play the changes we bend through the changes
Imagine practicing thousands and thousands of hours in your room so you can sounds like a hornet with an aneurysm
gypsy jazz
You dont know anything about guitar lmao
@@elpibelol5005 what makes you think I don't?
@@elpibelol5005you really don’t have to, to know that was trash. Like sonically I would never listen to that but like technicality wise yeah it’s good and he’s going crazy but that doesn’t equate to good music.
although you are not wrong I hate your comment lol no disrespect tho
Two show off bullies, that's what they are. They immediately turned the meeting into a competition.
Don't cry so hard
@@Sameold87I hope next time you're practicing a hobby that some guys show up, force you to perform for them, then flex that they're better than you.
@@DarkPlaysThings That's life dude don't be so fragile, it didn't happened to you
@@Sameold87I don't believe it's "fragile" to say that the people in the video were objectively being assholes. They knew what they were doing, and they knew they'd get attention for it. If I see a fully grown adult chokeslam some random kid in the street should I walk up to the kid and say "hey, stop being so fragile". If anything, it shows how fragile the two guys in the video are, that they need to boost their egos by showing off to strangers. It's pretty pathetic.
@@DarkPlaysThingswhat a crappy analogy. This kids got plenty of skill, enough to post his chops for full view and criticism all day everyday. I'm sure someone doing a practice line in front of him probably didn't crack his skull, break his back, get him choked, or get this, probably didn't even hurt his feelings. 😮 Soft out here these days.
Sounds like a bunch of random jazz licks played fast without regard to song structure...
Bro saod "too american" and then proceeds to to play a genre created in america
There was absolutely no need for that other than to show off.
uh huh
Some guitarists never grow out of their egos and they're missing the point of music entirely.
“Finally the scales I practiced naked alone in my room can be played shoddily to impress this white bread American”🤡
They are just like this since Django. So... This just the way it is. The youtuber guy's Jimi-stg.scratch was also pathetic on that guitar with the 12-13 strings.
To me, it sounded like shit
Playing fast doesn't mean a guitarist is better
Lmao he definitely understands that fretboard better than you or this youtuber ever will.
Playing slow neither
@@alwaysabiggafish3305yet he couldn't understand how to play something that captures us emotionally. It was just very technically skilled noodling
@@alwaysabiggafish3305so? It sounds garbage. You don't understand the point of music. It's not pushing buttons as fast as you can on a computer.
@@bandolierboy1908 Haha I totally vibed to whatever he played and I am in awe. You have to meet jazz standards to understand jazz.
Guitar culture sucks now. It’s not a competition.
Edit: I’ve gotten 15 comments with the same reply; that it has always been that way. Yes, but social media hasn’t helped.
Agreee dude! Its about art heart and soul
Agreed.
@@hannanathan564 hell yeahh!! Art from heart always beautiful man!
@@LunaticsRomanticRecords I mean, musicians can come from different schools of thought, that’s fine. Expression and knowledge go hand in hand… artistic expression usually through playing by ear is awesome… likewise, having a deep understanding of theory is also awesome… the best players have both… bottom line… it’s no competition… there’s always someone better, so approaching music competitively is a waste of energy.
True
For me a beautiful melody is what makes a good music
Same, he's following a pattern (modes/scales) but you can really make melodies out of them, give it a try in an instrument and you'll find magic
Alright jazz cat now try this! *throws shoegaze song in his face*
It seems like he was just trying to show off and make him look better to his friends, kinda shitty if you ask me. It shouldn’t be a competition it should just be about loving the music and playing how you want to play
lol try being in the local music scene, these types of musicians outnumber the humble ones, greatly.
The same reason most people only listens to certain bands and don't listen to others till they make it up there. Because of love and not competition. 😂
it’s alright, no one will listen to a thousand notes constantly at your face for 4 minutes long, he’ll burn out
As a french guy i can assure you that he says ''it's good to play with him''
in the tone of his voice you can understand that it is absolutly ironic, he didn't wanted to play with him but against Mickey. French man asked him to play only to show he was faster/better than him...
Absolutly disgusting, he just wanted to show that he had a bigger one.
Ego at its worst!
lol we expect nothing less from the frenh
absolutely not
It was a set up
@@mbradley5683 real
Yeah but his attitude sucks he won’t make it too far. Keep up the good work brother
And his playing sounds shit aswell so I'm struggling to see when this "humbling" happebed
Guitar Center in 2007 when I asked if I could see my now Fender Telesonic, & placed it in the rack.
This is why you practice your scales people!
This was clearly a bout of egos. The first guy playing sounded good, the second guy tried to prove his superiority. We don’t accept him in the music community, unless it’s some sort of collaboration-like skit.
🤓🤓
yeah bro i’m sure the jazz maestro is gonna be real torn up abt yt shorts commenters not letting em in the community
Showing off a skill you've put countless hours of work into? Nah, we don't do that here pal. 😂 no community for you! 🤦
Noodling
@@gatesandguitars I understand brother, I’ve played the piano for 17 years and the drums for 12. I’m 22. All I’m saying is, there’s no need to bash others, through your musical prowess. It was clear that was the intention, with the talented guitarist saying repeatedly “play it, play it!” Like some fanatic.
usually u get cursed with mystical guitar powers so i see it as a win-win
i didnt get it sorry im dumb
Yeah hes good, but what hes playing doesn't sound good. I played Takanaka for one of my buddies and he was laughing at the guy playing slow. Speed doesnt equal good music.
Right where’s the soul??
There’s value within multiple types of play. I feel like you’re taking frustration due to his “ego” and letting that sway your perception.
@@Duck_The Or, his playing doesn’t have much “soul” in it!! 🙄
Takanaka is my favorite guitarist
@@mrquick6775 You can’t just use buzzwords to undermine people you don’t like. Soul can really just be defined as passionate arbitrary playing which is what he did. Such is even substantiated by him showing such pride.
This is the equivalent of asking a question to someone just so you can give your answer
I didn't know the annoying kid from Polar Express was French..
No way, this dude asked some dude to play his guitar but then he just flexed his skill. Is this an ego thing? I'm also able to play fast but I'm not going around showing off my skill to an unsuspecting guitarist
This is a guitar thing haha
@@OM10PYE "I'm gonna assert my dominance by playing better than you >:("
I'm gonna do that everytime I met a guitarist
Happened to me in a guitar store once. I was only playing for 1 year at this point and playing over the hills and far away on an acoustic guitar when some guy behind me just started to do the same but in the most jazzed up way possible
@johnlemon874 thats not always done in an efort to show off. I sometimes hear a song and want to llay along. He was playing with you
@@quisdaman No he played after me
His playing sounded more technical but your playing sounded better.
no it didn't lets be honest it sounded like every other thing he plays with that strum style
His playing sounded very basic. I like intricacy and complexity in music myself.
@josku5 the other guys first lick was pretty good, but it kind of fell apart after that and lost it's feel.
@@f1rebreather123 "Lost its feel" Bro it was all feel
@@josku5you are so cool
LOL. that sounds so scaley, like a warm up practice
Right
And? The youtuber's boring and stupid funky scratch? On that guitar with 12-13' strings?
Remember guys:
1) it's not a competition.
2) 2 of the most famous riffs are indeed Seven nation army and 0 3 5, it's not only about speed.
Be humble and enjoy music
Art is not a competition
But can he play smoke on the water?
can he play a c chord ?
Can he play a minor? 💀
Anyway heres wonderwall
💯% Yes
There’s always a jazz guy with no gig coming to yours to watch. No big deal 😂😂
A nice groove was actually waaay cooler to listen. This "jazz shred" sounded as an endles boring BS. You could to catch the nice guitar an run away.
he didn't know he's Al DiMeola😅
French guy isn't very good. He's gonna get smoked randomly challenging people with those slop chops.
Sounded good but needs to work on phrasing not just speed
Only constructive comment here. What’s with people speaking on a genre they know nothing about in an authoritative manner. It’s absolutely mind boggling
I practice this every day so that i can show people how fast i can play my practice routine.
For every "Music Expert" who says Jazz it's just playing fast scales. I had a Question for you. Can you play one Scale over the entire Fretboard thats not a pentatonic Shape ?
Bro got the point here but apparently do re mi fa sol it's overrated
Yeah, but my argument is that who actually wants to listen to this? Yeah, it's cool you can play fast, but I would never stream an album of this.
@@andrewreillymusic2773 because you never listened a gypsy jazz composition, check Angelo de barre, la manouche for example. Then you would stream it. Then, all of these comments only because the guy here in the full video says that jazz is some kind of bastardised blues... I invite you to listen to my example change my mind guy. Then there's classical music->jazz->blues and everything else. This is the history of music, but the only postulates of our Occidental music are in classical and jazz, the rest is just derived. And it's funny to see how the human kind with the century's flowing tend to prefer simpler and simpler music (I like it too sometimes don't worry).
Also try playing anything that sounds good that *isn't* part of a relevant scale
@nicolasmecaj meh, I've always been a fan of gypsy jazz but the dude in this video is just ripping scales with not much rhythmic movement. I prefer a bit more rhythmic tension and release, but for just noodling that was nuts.
No other musicians geek out on Mindless noodling the way guitarists do. That's why there's a million videos of kids sitting in their bedrooms playing the fastest things that they can. SMH
I can take about a minute of that before I feel exhausted.
I like how you just played Generic Funk Riff no. 1.
The French’s playing is just kinda annoying after like 5 seconds, yours sounded a lot more appealing and groovy 🤷♂️
Ahm......No 😅😅😅
“The French’s” lmao ok, bud time to put that superiority complex to rest.
@@firstnamelastname956 nah I just didn’t know his name so I was just referring to him as that lol, it’s not that deep bro😂
@@Fehlfarbenblind to me it sounded annoying, to you it might’ve sounded better the other way around, learn to respect differing opinions bud.
Nah the 2nd guy is definitely playing way more melodic lines. It may be too fast for you to comprehend. The 1st guy is chucking nicely and it feels good. Both are great just two totally different things happening
Fast playing is overrated 😴
They're not on the internet all day, they live in buildings with no air conditioning, and just play guitar since birth.
I wouldn’t be regretting anything, you played ur style of music well and so did he, you both shared something. If he was only trying to show off, he’s gotta learn what music’s about 🤷♂️
Two different styles of playing meant for two completely different contexts. You really can’t compare the two at a level other than preference.
The guitar at times can be almost like a sport but music will always be music.
How french of him
OUI BAGUETE ET FROMAGE C’EST DÉLICIEUX
Jazz is easy I am not good at guitar but jazz is chords scales and music theory like a lot of it and all of that is easy to learn making jazz easy
"Jazzman" should be a new super hero character ngl.
The difference between “interesting” and “talented” is not often as drastic as this.
neither of them played anything interesting
I feel like all you had to do was bend one note and it would’ve been over for the french guy
Ngl, while he is technically great, the music wasnt there for me
I'd rather hear that cool funky riff, pleasant and groovy❤
That French guy was sick, great lines!
for people that say its not music, he is playing jazz and most likely improvising, and if you think jazz solos are not music, than you clearly know shit about playing guitar
feel swing and improve is the fundamental of jazz hehehe,
@@rizkysurya9602and wouldn’t ya know people feel things differently
His swing might not fit yours
@@Dovahkiin0117that’s not exactly how swing works my friend
Jazz solos are music and I love them, i just don't enjoy listening to HIS noodling personally when he is playing fast just for the sake of playing fast.
@@Dovahkiin0117 honestly i like the way he play the guitar bro, really , both of the guys playing great 😅, and i agree with u , everyone has a taste and maybe some style doesnt fit ur preffrence😅, sorry my englsh is bad hehe
its impressive sure but in this case, less is more
fast jazz licks but not much to it. virtuosity ≠ musicality.
Everyone saying that hes not playing good and too fast dosent understand the point. If you can play fast you have to have started slow. So that means you built your way up to a level that non musicians dont understand beacuse its harder to understand thus the claiming its less ARTFULL then slow music which is false. I think people are jealous or else they would be saying (wow that was fast and impressive) and not (thats not even music!!)
I hope that guy has visited this comment section and seen that everyone thought he was a tool with an overinflated ego. Play with me, not at me. don’t play to show up people or feel better than others, play because it makes you happy man. I prefer what Mikey played because it came from a positive place.
Most humble French :
You would think after centuries of surrendering the would have learned some couth.
@@3volk715stop with the French bashing please
@@CAM_667 what bashing? Did I lie about something? Clearly a lot of people agree that they have a problem with being extremely cocky and arrogant. I pointed out a very obvious flaw in all that pride that apparently they are blind to see.
@@3volk715 im french, i gotta say the guy in the video cross the boundarys of dumbness yes, but all french are not assholes, just the goofy parisians, i got a tip for you DONT GO NEAR PARIS, come in our little villages or less known Cities i promise you you’ll see us differently.
That’s what happens when you have Rimbaud and Verlaine!
As creatives we don’t like to admit it, but musicians are fiercely competitive
I reckon it probably tends to happen in any creative field that's as over-crowded and romanticised, I guess everone's desperate to stand out as the one thats better than everyone else
I'm a musician and am not competitive at all...I actually refuse to compete with anyone...refuse...but I'm quite capable of running scales like that pretty fast I mean...it's not hard to memorize scale patterns and the learn to alternate pick...learn a couple picking patterns like groups of six or whatever any even number works with alternate picking...it doesn't even matter...his playing really doesn't impress me much at all...I'm just being honest...the first guy would be much more fun to jam with...
I'm not competitive and I avoid working with people who try to compete with me. I don't like it. Yeah I'm not the best but I don't want to be around people that keep trying to remind me they are better just to stroke their egos.
That's why I'm a songwriter and not a musician
Speak for yourself
Well looking at the comments you can tell who sucks at Guitar
Ah yes the god of guitar and music has commented to tell us shredding jazz sounds "good"
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843because it does you tasteless hooligan. There's a reason jazz is heralded as an achievement, because it exists to be difficult and a musician's music, something that you need to understand to enjoy.
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843it may not sound good to you, but he definitely is a good player
@angusrowan3443 no ones saying hes a bad player. U can be a god of shredding and still play something that just has too much going on. Jazz is cool shredding fast on jazz doesn't sound good
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843 there's hundreds of fast jazz songs that sound good
Bros fluent in guitar
Oh Jazzers, let me play all the notes at once
I’m glad jazz isn’t mainstream but I wish it was sometimes. I wish people could understand it. It’s a language in its own like anything else
this is a very out of touch statement
@@whoatethedoor No it isn't
95% of jazz is masturbation
Write a fucking song, arrange it, and sing it for God's sake
@@whoatethedoor it’s possible.
@@pepesupreme6451 Someones salty lmao
Typical French man worrying about cooking him
Is that french?
"I can see it, I can feel it... e's cooking"
On a brief inventory of the comment section, I see that in the guitarist community, people are still better at talking shit about other guitarists than actually playing their instrument
And others (you) are just easily impressed?
The ones calling him a shitcunt or the ones calling him boring?
A. M. E. N.
I'd estimate that about 5%of all guitar owners could pull off even the most simple gig.
Most are like Stevie Wonder talking about telescopes.
Since when did music of any kind become a contest? 🙄 I have no time for people like this.
Honestly his talent doesn't go very far, though... He is just fairly quick at matching a key and playing scales quickly. And this is cool and all, but... It doesn't do much for many.
And that says absolutely zero about music crafting, making a melody, much less a song, or shaking any type of emotion in the music you play.
There are generally two big parts to playing great music (there are obviously many more, but for this we will say these two). One is the technical side and one of the emotional side. And his technical side is just alright.... And that is because he has only focused on one portion of the technical side - speed in scales in an identified key.
He showed absolutely zero effort towards evoking emotion behind his playing. Much less forming an actual song or structure in what he played.. just noodling a scale.
Fine for practice, but let's see you make someone tear up to your "music" when playing like this. Or enjoy is even a bit outright. It's a fun show of speed but that's about it.
And let's be honest, the finesse in what he played wasn't there, either. The guy is a fraud who focused on all the wrong things. And his sole purpose where was to try to one up the other dude. How is that ok?
Hes just playing scales,too fast and sloppy. Am I the crazy one?
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Sloppy? Yeah, youre in denial about your own skill arent you?
Not sloppy, but I liked the funky riffing a whole lot more
He's mainly playing arpeggios though
@@mbg4041but the funky riffing is just some dominant 9 chord changing to a IV chord with incredibly common rhythm for funk. This is what I play if someone forced me to play funk and I just wanted to do the most obvious thing.
The other guy played the changes over many chords, with interesting voice leading and connecting with arpeggios, he used cool sequences and sweeping, he use string skipping, etc. He did so much more and actually made musical phrasing rather than just Funk in E cliches. Everyone here is coping or way more likely knows nothing about jazz, bebop phrasing and what playing changes even means
This comment section is braindead. He is definitely not just playing scales. You can clearly hear him outlining chord changes. You might not like this type of music, but he is very talented no doubt.
He is noodling with no actual musical intention. Yes, he’s obviously very talented and I’m sure he COULD play actual music, but that was not on display here.
@@lllULTIMATEMASTERlllhe’s playing bebop language and it’s very intentional
@@itsjustlogic7232 I know what bebop is. I love Charlie Parker and have transcribed a few of his solos on guitar. But what this guy is doing is just noodling. It’s very clearly just the kind of mindless stuff we all do when we pick up our guitars.
I don’t think it really matters, this guy is a freak weirdo for doing this
I resonate with your playing more. Virtuosity and taste, two different things, don’t always overlap.
The French guy is playing a pattern that is easy to do using sweep picking. That’s why it repeats so many times. He’s stuck in that pattern and it prevents him from playing freely and melodically. It sounds like crap
It’s ok man they might have been lacking a bit of soul in their playing
Good player, yea, sure. But one style most of us can listen to for more than 10 seconds while the other is played by a French guy arrogantly assuming 1,000,000 notes a second is "superior" playing. I'm gonna guess he didn't ask "how fast can you play?" ... Just handed a guitar to him and said "here, you play" then when he got the guitar back he played a million notes to think he upstaged the first player. It's mildly impressive that he has that skill, but the smug attitude is too Parisian French for me to like.
BeBop it's supposed to be fast. You can't blame a Rock Player Who plays Power Chords. That's the Language
Ask him to play a G. Watch him be like “huh”
who was it that said that you never want to be the best musician in the room? defo applies here lol
Don’t ever do this. It’s just an opportunity to have the other guy make you look bad. 😂 And he’s so aggressive about it. I’d say nope. ✌🏻
Woah dude, he *stomped* you with those finger exercises! Maybe with enough practice you can be as fast and unmusical as him someday!
I always feel guilty about shredding too much but jazz guys get away with it
Who else thought the guitar was gonna blow up
That was a great experience. You probably had fun and it wouldnt be much fun if you where the best player in the room
Then again, these kind of problems only exist if you treat music as a sport where someone has to `win` and `lose` instead of a beautiful, emotional and extremely enjoyable form of art ;)
The guy playing fast didn't even sound good... it was like just rapid fire notes without a beautiful melody. It was mediocre
Stole all those licks from Gipsies. How French.
He must've listened a lot to Django Reinhardt while on coke.
I learned a long time ago that fast and good are two different things
Fast doesn't equal better it actually sounded like nothing but bg g jbhghbfdhnvjjjm csg
Playing fast doesn't prove anything thats what most people think nowadays playing melodies keeping time and just being able to play at all flashyness isn't needed ever in music that's not the point
Should have known when you saw that ES175 body shape to just hand it back to him 😂
He’s just playing some bebop licks if you know language he ain’t playin nothin but rudimentary shit
Literally. Everyone here saying this isn’t music is crazy. The mfs I listen to do things like this all the time and its dope
Should have asked him to play a G chord
Those 2 frogs were just playing scales man 😂 u shouldn't be embarrassed about it. I bet u got more concept than them
You know how many people can play like that today? Wish more played to “fire in the heart and bring tears to the eyes”.