My local track near Montreal Canada introduced their own 'budget' version of Dwarfs in the mid-1990's using Chevette front clips and a Toyota off-set rear end. Their OEM style steel wheels and horrendous homemade bodywork never made them too visually attractive.
Than you guys very much for showing all this new track in PA is going to be running these and my son and I are thinking of getting into dwarf car racing
A dwarf car is something I wish they had more of in Pennsylvania. If there is enough races and support in Pennsylvania I will go buy a dwarf car. I hope they pick up soon in Pennsylvania
I’m 12 years old and driving karts right now, but next your I am going to start driving dwarf cars, I knew a little about then but this video helped a lot
@waylonturnmire I know that it's 3 years on, and I don't believe that anybody had responded, but I would say it's never too early to start learning something new. As far as driving regulations at that time of your life goes, I'm not sure. I got my first vehicle when I was 14 and my dad will let me drive around the block a few times here and there but I was able to modify it for 2 years before I actually got my license. Due to your pfp, I see that you're still racing. Keep it up! I always wish that I had gotten into it. I'm 35, now tough..
My favorite analogy I’d use when people asked if dwarfs and legends were the same. Was to say they were related like Porsche and vw. I’d love to be on your show someday when you’re doing dwarf car stuff.
Do you guys have issues breaking output shafts? I'm considering picking up a cheap older 1k or 1250 car and converting it to do some drift events on kart tracks. Wondering how they would hold up to clutch kicks.
Thanks for the compliment! Yes, we run a stock Kawasaki clutch. If nothing stupid happens, the clutch will last a full season, about 20 races. There's not a lot of stress on the clutch because it's mostly used to get the car moving and not touched after that.
Great video guys! I have one question though. How do you mount the clutch slave cylinder? Isn't the driveshaft adapter in the way? We are building a car with a k7 GSXR 1000, and are working on various design decisions for it at the moment.
Is the door part of the cage that opens and shuts to get in? If so what keeps the door shut? I'm physically disabled and thinking of getting I see that doors open so it should be easier to get into than crawling through the window prostock or late model street stock.
I was at a racing convention outside Philly during the late 90s. I was 14 and came with my family. Dad was turning wrenches on a late model and getting into aircooled VW modifieds. I saw these cars. Never knew they existed. I loved the idea. Dad, however wasn’t thrilled. The idea of opening doors on a race car didn’t appeal to him. Plus, the display car ran off propane. The idea of compressed fuel to was like driving with a bomb on the back of the car. I was still all over these things, but he would have none of it
Legends cars are full spec, can anyone build a dwarf anyway they want? Legends look a good size bigger, they are 5/8 scale they say, are these 4/8 scale? btw, I have a 37 chevy legend body making it a street car. also btw, well done video.
Most Modlites chassis are different and not Dwarf legal under WSDCA rules. I'm not sure if a door is mandatory or not. Quick change rearends are legal.
Phil Hayes Engineering is the one who built and sold the rearend. Sadly, he's not doing it any more. There was a guy who tried to pick up where he left off, but he had a lot of issues.
@@metalmanglers1026 are their other option for builders? and hey I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. I like the videos, very informative.
@@aWhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Give Bob a call at (619) 561-1720. He is currently building quick change rearends for dwarf cars. Nicely engineered piece. Please make sure you tell him that Razz sent you his way!
@@chrisrace6810 Thanks again for pointing out the issue with the audio. Unfortunately, TH-cam won't let us fix it on this video. But, thanks to you letting us know about it, we know what to adjust for the next video!
Very cool and very well done! Looking forward to the next video.
My local track near Montreal Canada introduced their own 'budget' version of Dwarfs in the mid-1990's using Chevette front clips and a Toyota off-set rear end. Their OEM style steel wheels and horrendous homemade bodywork never made them too visually attractive.
Than you guys very much for showing all this new track in PA is going to be running these and my son and I are thinking of getting into dwarf car racing
A dwarf car is something I wish they had more of in Pennsylvania. If there is enough races and support in Pennsylvania I will go buy a dwarf car. I hope they pick up soon in Pennsylvania
I’m 12 years old and driving karts right now, but next your I am going to start driving dwarf cars, I knew a little about then but this video helped a lot
Do you think I am too young to start dwarfs?
@waylonturnmire
I know that it's 3 years on, and I don't believe that anybody had responded, but I would say it's never too early to start learning something new. As far as driving regulations at that time of your life goes, I'm not sure. I got my first vehicle when I was 14 and my dad will let me drive around the block a few times here and there but I was able to modify it for 2 years before I actually got my license. Due to your pfp, I see that you're still racing. Keep it up! I always wish that I had gotten into it. I'm 35, now tough..
I'm 49 yrs young and I want to build one of these just to cruise around. They look like fun
My favorite analogy I’d use when people asked if dwarfs and legends were the same. Was to say they were related like Porsche and vw.
I’d love to be on your show someday when you’re doing dwarf car stuff.
What area are you in, Brian? We might be able to work something out.
Metal Manglers I’m in the inland empire but I’m willing to do almost anywhere in so-cal.
nicely done video.
Very informative.
Nice video, one big question for yall. How are the legends to dwarf conversions being done?
Do you guys have issues breaking output shafts? I'm considering picking up a cheap older 1k or 1250 car and converting it to do some drift events on kart tracks. Wondering how they would hold up to clutch kicks.
These cars ARE really fast!!!
Lol it like legends we run just as fast as the big cars
Awesome video, how long do those clutches last. Are you just running the stock motorcycle clutch?
Thanks for the compliment! Yes, we run a stock Kawasaki clutch. If nothing stupid happens, the clutch will last a full season, about 20 races. There's not a lot of stress on the clutch because it's mostly used to get the car moving and not touched after that.
Where do I get one lol.
Great video guys! I have one question though. How do you mount the clutch slave cylinder? Isn't the driveshaft adapter in the way? We are building a car with a k7 GSXR 1000, and are working on various design decisions for it at the moment.
We ran a ZX-10R motor. It has a cable actuated clutch. There were no interference issues with the driveshaft adapter.
Is this a good class to step up to from Jr. Late model? We run 70 HP V twins based off of the Briggs 23hp motor
That sounds like a bandelero car engine
Is the door part of the cage that opens and shuts to get in? If so what keeps the door shut? I'm physically disabled and thinking of getting I see that doors open so it should be easier to get into than crawling through the window prostock or late model street stock.
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These Dwarf Card are simple a remake of the old sportster's that ran in the 70's with a different engine.
I was at a racing convention outside Philly during the late 90s. I was 14 and came with my family. Dad was turning wrenches on a late model and getting into aircooled VW modifieds. I saw these cars. Never knew they existed. I loved the idea. Dad, however wasn’t thrilled. The idea of opening doors on a race car didn’t appeal to him. Plus, the display car ran off propane. The idea of compressed fuel to was like driving with a bomb on the back of the car. I was still all over these things, but he would have none of it
How much does it cost to build one of these
Legends cars are full spec, can anyone build a dwarf anyway they want? Legends look a good size bigger, they are 5/8 scale they say, are these 4/8 scale?
btw, I have a 37 chevy legend body making it a street car. also btw, well done video.
What about shocks and set up. Weight?
Can a mod lite be converted with a different body to run in dwarf car classes or is a door mandatory? Also can you run a quick change rear end?
Most Modlites chassis are different and not Dwarf legal under WSDCA rules. I'm not sure if a door is mandatory or not. Quick change rearends are legal.
About how much does it cost to get started
Where do you acquire your rear differential from? purchase or build?
Phil Hayes Engineering is the one who built and sold the rearend. Sadly, he's not doing it any more. There was a guy who tried to pick up where he left off, but he had a lot of issues.
@@metalmanglers1026 are their other option for builders? and hey I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. I like the videos, very informative.
@@aWhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Give Bob a call at (619) 561-1720. He is currently building quick change rearends for dwarf cars. Nicely engineered piece. Please make sure you tell him that Razz sent you his way!
@@metalmanglers1026 thanks very much appreciated
cheers!
What Toyota vehicle? the drive shaft you used my car has same Toyota rear axle.
Custom drive shaft.
turn key ready to race cost in general?
Prolly bout 15k to 20k but you can find for 12 to 13k
Where do you buy your 13-inch Hoosier tires please let me know
Wayne Miller Mobile Tires in Lakeside, CA
Awesome video. Regular fuel?
Yes, Western States rules require pump gas by rule. Thanks for the compliment, thanks for watching!
@@metalmanglers1026 So 91?
@@BrianBondAudio Yes, 91. Anything more than that would be overkill anyway.
How did Earnie,s body stile get uglier than the ones he started with? I am a friend of his and really am interested.
Might want to mirror audio so audio isn't on just one side if you use premier pro.
Chris, thank you for that input. Was not aware of the audio issue, we will fix that.
@@metalmanglers1026 No worries. Glad I could help.
@@chrisrace6810 Thanks again for pointing out the issue with the audio. Unfortunately, TH-cam won't let us fix it on this video. But, thanks to you letting us know about it, we know what to adjust for the next video!
How much for one of these cars
About $30k for a race ready car
@@neilden84 this class was designed for us poor folks I guess not :(
You don’t know what you are doing