I feel like as a millennial it gets a bit more touchy when Z's pick on us because all the other generations picked on us really hard from the start. It's like aw man really?? you too??
As an older GenZ, i think that many of us have the experience of getting picked on by the moderate to right-wing millennials that hate on our generation for being too "sensitive" and liberal. Therefore, we pick on millennials too for their fashion because its really the only thing we can try to pick at😂but in my opinion, both of us got fucked by the past generations and are being left with a shit world so i dont know why we fight each other when we should go after the generations above us 😅
Maddie was speaking FACTS in their corner omg. I started identifying as nonbinary relatively recently because for a long time I accepted that being a woman just meant experiencing a lot of misogyny, and it wasn't until I started having conversations with a bunch of women about gender that I realized some people actually *liked* being a woman and felt a connection to it that was separate from the misogyny they experienced. At that point I was like "okay I'm definitely missing something here." Also, I can't remember not being on birth control (I started taking it when I was 12 to regulate my periods) and Ashley talking about how much they've been fucking her up has me stressed thinking about how different my mental health would be if I weren't on them 😂
When ash talked about how it makes you feel self conscious- just hit the nail on the head. I’ve been on it for over a decade and had taken a break for a year and mentally I was so much better. But the periods were terrible as before. 🙃
People, please, don't stress that much. Yes, for some people, it may change your experience of the world, but not for everyone and not about the same things. I was on and off the pill for several years, and the only big thing was that sometimes it would affect my libido. And even that, I'm not completely sure if it was the pill or not. It's ok to be aware of possible changes and side effects, but I don't think it is worth it to stress about it.
Watch Jen start to leave the apartment when Ashley is recording episodes! 😅💖 Also love the existential crisis about gay thoughts inside the existential crisis about gay thoughts. 😂
Okay this was actually a phenomenal episode. Too many good bits to isolate one bit. Thanks Ruby for repping the PMDD girlies. It truly is horrendous. 😁 ( Also Jen's gay thought is so transcendent it deserves to be repeated. 👏😅)
There are people who consider gender to be a social class. I think people interested in those ideas should look up Monique Wittig, idk why her work isn't more popular currently!
Ashley if you get Victoria Pedretti on the pod, I will give you my firstborn (also, how dare you reference her as the actress from You, educate yourself, watch Bly Manor)
10:15pm in Perth, Western Australia. Don’t think you’ll ever make it this far south west from NY, but, at least I can tune in. I couldn’t believe that a person brought up a serious mental health issue at a comedy performance, & then got shitty about the response. Please go & get appropriate help. Ashley, I can only tell you I’m supportive from afar. Cheers, yvonne, v.grey-haired lesbian
No comment about the slave labor used to make our Mac products or the one your using? No ethical consumption under capitalism babe. Trendy wokeness wooh!!!!
@@ashgavs relax ashley i love you i stayed thru all the “trendy wokeness” your fans push on you this wasn’t an attack i just said it’s “crazy” bc i feel like i NEVER see it anywhere anymore these days (for good reason tho ofc fuck starbucks)
@@ashgavs i also know you’re releasing on a delay so maybe pressure wasn’t as crazy when this was filmed but the pressure just seems so crazy now seeing it surprised me haha
CAN YOU GET VICTORIA PEDRETTI ON THE POD PLEASEEEE PLEASE IM BEGGING. She played a queer character in the haunting of bly manor, did a queer audio erotica story for the Quinn app, and I think she’s playing a queer character in a new short called fall risk. I think she might identify as straight but she wouldn’t be the first straight guest and also I have a severe parasocial relationship with her PLEASE GET HER ON
my lesbian parents had three kids-all by sperm donors. both my parents wanted to carry. my brother was birthed by mom A using the sperm from the sibling of mom B. mom B had my sister and i using an anonymous sperm donor. for our family it was absolutely normal. my brother never felt that his “father” was anything other than his moms brother and my moms brother just knew my brother as his sisters child. anyone that thinks it’s weird should reevaluate themselves. it’s the best option for some family’s and in the early 90s that was the best option for my mothers. i was able to meet my sperm donor later in life which but again i feel nothing other than him as my sperm donor. he owes me nothing. he is genetically my father but was never my parent. my mothers were. i think if you properly explain these things in age appropriate language as you raise your children, answering their questions when they have them, you will be successful in raising your children as a lesbian couple.
I have so many questions about semen allergies now. Their diet? Don't vegans eat nuts? Are there other things like genetic factors? Are some sperms more allergenic than others? I'm going to need a Kurzgezart video on this...
Gay face is a thing because when I saw Kristen Stewart in that Jodie Foster movie when she was only 12 or 13 it was obvious by just her face that she was either gay or at least Bi.
I personally feel we’re all just trying to find a label that best describes the percentage of masculine/feminine energy we all carry in our born physical bodies… i think it also shifts based on the inevitable experiences humans go through which is why gender and sexuality labels can get a bit murky. In the end there truly is no such thing as gender as energy is gender fluid/genderless. I do also believe some are either so set in their ways and closed that their universal energy is fixed/blocked to just one feminine/masculine side. I mean we all have blocked people in our lives that would listen to this perspective and think I’m on drugs😂😂 Maddie is 100 when she said fixed labels are easy to market for… they’re basically sub niches. BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION ❤❤❤ (open to thoughts and other perspectives as this stuff fascinates me)
The gender conversation was interesting although one thing I'd be curious about is if they knew something like 1/4 or 1/3 of people don't think in language they think in sort of amorphous images and concepts and blobs ( I dunno. I'm a language thinker. That's sort of how I've heard it described). So they still experience gendered thoughts but they aren't in words
loved the gender convo. i feel like a millennial who has a complex gender relationship but identifies as a woman, with gen z non binary friends and we really are dealing with the same inner experiences but with different tools and words. How special to realize humans are humaning across generations lol.
Thank you for the politics talk! My state (of Australia) is about to have an election, and I am very interested in politics - I've actually just started studying it at uni. However, it really seems like no one cares as much as they should. Almost everyone at the moment doesn't want to engage in politics or democracy. I'm seventeen, so lots of my friends are turning eighteen and will be voting for the first time, but they mostly resent having to vote (in Australia, voting is compulsory). I'm feeling very frustrated, and also frustrated that no one else seems to share my frustration.
Okay here there are a lot of bisexuals that will not sleep with trans people I know try to make sense of it. So, as a trans woman when someone says they are pansexual. It's a great indicator that they are safe to approach if I am interested. I do identify As pansexual Some of it for the reason above and the other. I'm into more than Two genders and bi means two Also I'm polyamorous 😂😂
Fair enough. Honestly I don't know if I would be with a binary trans person. I don't have enough experience from having crushes. I can't know if it's really 'all' genders. And aren't there technically as many gender variations as there are people? But I'm not attracted to every single person. Nobody is though. You may never know, someone may get a crush on you who didn't identify as pan before. Sometimes people identify as gay/straight and are with a trans partner. But there is this separate label for bi people who are open to it, but not for the straights and gays. Idk. It feels a bit too demanding to need to know this about yourself in order to have a label. There aren't that many trans people out there. I feel like many people wouldn't know this about themselves. I prefer the word queer because of this but my first language doesn't have an equivalent, so I may say I'm a 'rainbow person' (it means lgbtq) but that's not really a sexuality, it's a political identity (stating you belong to a marginalized group). Sorry for complaining. I'm glad you find safety in the word.
@raapyna8544 We all have our own journey when it comes to gender and sexuality. And your beliefs and feelings are yours. All you can do Is own them. Just be yourself that's the best you can do
29:14 My partner wants me to carry his egg and ask my brother with green eyes to donate his sperm. I gives me the "ick" to carry my partner's fertilized egg with my brother's sperm inside my own body. On so many levels. I'll elaborate if you want more thoughts on this from a complete stranger, Ashley.
Bi and pan are the same thing. The difference is aesthetics. If you prefer to go by bisexual, go for it. If you prefer to go by pansexual, go for it. You're valid either way. There is no concrete difference, and attempting to draw one is counterproductive as fuck
The concrete diff to me has always been that in breaking down the definition, Bi people like typically cis men or cis women, or at least people in a specific gender box. Pan usually indicates that gender is irrelevant and can be cis people, trans people, non binary, etc. But I agree that focusing on nomenclature is usually for non queer folks to understand us more than for us to understand ourselves ultimately. Im also 32 now and it sounds like definitions are changing. In my age group if you date non-binary folks and dont care about gender thats more pan, if youll date a "man or woman" it would be Bi.
@@nicolabreslauer1529 nah, there is no concrete difference. Bi people and pan people can be equally into nonbinary people and other trans people. It is a fool's errand to try to identify a concrete difference, because there isn't any.
Contraproductive? People Love to find minute differences in everyday stuff. To most people Doom, Dark and Death metal is exactly the same, just like colombian and brasilian coffe ,westcoast or easycoast ipa. People who are into leather versus into latex not to mention all the flavours of socialism. Coke or Pepsi. Star Trek vs. Star Wars All the different kinds of feminism.
This! By definitions I could identify as either. Bi is usually easier for people to understand. Pan probs fits a little better but eh, it's splitting hairs. My definition of my brand of bisexuality is I'm attracted to genders like my own and genders not like my own. It works out great.
The short bangs reminds me of a toddler that got ahold of the scissors when mom wasn't looking... I did that but not my bangs. I took a tiny chunk off the ends... Somehow mom noticed 🤷🤦
not sure if you're taking guest suggestions but I'd love to see more non north americans on the pod and Kidology on youtube just came out as a lesbian a few weeks ago and I think would be a fun guest!
As a femme bisexual I see you ash its ok ❤ i get the whole not queer enough thing I've felt like that my whole life - I only got told by your server recently that I look gay and some girl flirted with me a while ago without me saying anything or being in a lgbtq setting.
Personally, my reason for calling myself bi instead of pan is because I consider trans women, women & trans men, men. Bi means 2 & I don't see being trans as a separate gender. 🤷🏻♀️
I 100% believe in gay face, the rules of gay face are: if you have gay face, you are gay (even if you don't know it) but you can be gay and not have gay face, i.e., gay face is not a necessary condition of being gay but more a random bi-product that occurs in some gay people. Also, gay hands exists (but the rules for that are completely different).
I think there's more of an issue with "pansexual" than it just seeming "annoying" or like we have too many labels. I feel like people have really truly forgotten this or are from a generation that's simply too young to know this, but the "pansexual" term arose originally from severe transphobia. As a bisexual woman, when the term was in it's infancy it would be weaponized against me. I'm bisexual, so I'm good with both men and women. I've also been with trans women. The moment people heard that, they'd go, "Oh, so you're pan." I'd politely inquire and they'd say, "You're into trans people too, so you're not bi, you're pan." It was a term that started to be born from people putting trans people as "other" instead of their identifying gender and therefore not within the gaze of a bisexual person. Even if it's being redefined by the current generation, I really do think it's a term that simply needs to go. If we have to split sexuality into these neat little categories for some reason, I'd rather we just use a whole different word, to be quite honest.
This has been my problem with pansexual as well. It overshoots being inclusive and lands on being the opposite. I honestly feel that is something that can be said for a lot of the gen Z gender discussions. It gets so pointlessly into the nitty gritty details that it creates divisions where there aren't any. But that's just this old millenials opinion.
Wow. Thank you for this comment. I’d never thought of it through this lens.. pinning pansexuality onto someone vs. bisexual one could glean that trans women are in fact not women and fall into an “other” category - same for trans men. Something new is learned every day, and I’m glad this was today’s lesson. Wow. Thank you again.
Yeah, bisexual here, and I have felt like that sometimes. Also, I think the multiplying of labels and micro definitions is not helping as a community, I understand that they serve as a way for people to identify and create community, but in the end it's a way to divide people even more.
even though isnt super funny but i enjoyed all the philosophical discussions. this ep really touched on a lot of aspects of my life, being trans, queer, gen z, linguist
Idk about the society imposed gender norms so much, I think that’s true for a very large number of people, but as a fairly androgynous woman and the oldest of 4 kids, my brothers have been BOYS and my sister has been a GIRL very much from birth despite having a teacher mom who really didn’t force anything gendered on any of us as kids. We really didn’t get stereotypes until school age when other people brought it into our world, but my siblings are so stereotypically their assigned gender and have been genuinely from birth I can’t say it’s all bullshit. I think gender stereotypes exist for a reason, we’re just learning as society evolves that there are a lot of people who don’t fit in those boxes, and more importantly that that is completely okay
I really loved the Maddie corner discussion
❤ welcome back, Maddies looking good !!
33:26 Omg Maddie!!! 😂😂😂
You were on fire there!!
Thanks!
I loved this conversation so much so enlightening as someone who labels can be very stressful for haha 💞
I feel like as a millennial it gets a bit more touchy when Z's pick on us because all the other generations picked on us really hard from the start. It's like aw man really?? you too??
True !
I feel it's a little different from gen Z because it's like "dude, you just wait."
As an older GenZ, i think that many of us have the experience of getting picked on by the moderate to right-wing millennials that hate on our generation for being too "sensitive" and liberal. Therefore, we pick on millennials too for their fashion because its really the only thing we can try to pick at😂but in my opinion, both of us got fucked by the past generations and are being left with a shit world so i dont know why we fight each other when we should go after the generations above us 😅
Well if everyone thinks you’re cringe, maybe everyone has a point lmao
Maddie was speaking FACTS in their corner omg. I started identifying as nonbinary relatively recently because for a long time I accepted that being a woman just meant experiencing a lot of misogyny, and it wasn't until I started having conversations with a bunch of women about gender that I realized some people actually *liked* being a woman and felt a connection to it that was separate from the misogyny they experienced. At that point I was like "okay I'm definitely missing something here."
Also, I can't remember not being on birth control (I started taking it when I was 12 to regulate my periods) and Ashley talking about how much they've been fucking her up has me stressed thinking about how different my mental health would be if I weren't on them 😂
When ash talked about how it makes you feel self conscious- just hit the nail on the head. I’ve been on it for over a decade and had taken a break for a year and mentally I was so much better. But the periods were terrible as before. 🙃
People, please, don't stress that much. Yes, for some people, it may change your experience of the world, but not for everyone and not about the same things. I was on and off the pill for several years, and the only big thing was that sometimes it would affect my libido. And even that, I'm not completely sure if it was the pill or not. It's ok to be aware of possible changes and side effects, but I don't think it is worth it to stress about it.
@@kenziewenzieasmr9800 I feel your pain lmao
everyone was on FIRE this episode
Just got my ticket for Manchester in the second round :)) Thanks for the extra show Ashley 🎉 can’t wait to see your set!!
I always think, how could I watch this show more..so I guess, thanks for reminding me about the patreon 👍🏼
Watch Jen start to leave the apartment when Ashley is recording episodes! 😅💖
Also love the existential crisis about gay thoughts inside the existential crisis about gay thoughts. 😂
Go for Matteo!! That baby would be beautiful! Save some money for hair plugs though when he gets older😂😂😂
The “ I look gay but I’m not gay… oh yes I am” is very relatable
im dying at the sperm donor part and also in love with ruby
Okay this was actually a phenomenal episode. Too many good bits to isolate one bit. Thanks Ruby for repping the PMDD girlies. It truly is horrendous. 😁
( Also Jen's gay thought is so transcendent it deserves to be repeated. 👏😅)
parasocial comment for the algorithm
loved Ruby!! so cute so great
I loved all of these conversations so much. I was hooked on every word. I would love to see this guest back on the pod.
There are people who consider gender to be a social class. I think people interested in those ideas should look up Monique Wittig, idk why her work isn't more popular currently!
I love Ruby. I saw her in NC with Duncan Trussell. She is great!
Ashley if you get Victoria Pedretti on the pod, I will give you my firstborn (also, how dare you reference her as the actress from You, educate yourself, watch Bly Manor)
Wild to see Sacramento representation - used to go to Ruby’s living room live shows pre-COVID. DOPE!!!
Yayy so excited to watch this 🎉
Good morning have a happy mondayyyy
I looooved this episode and all of the theory talk (and also little crush on ruby now tbh)😅❤❤❤
Really resonating with this gender discussion 💓
omg maddie red hair??!!?! looks so good
turkish bottom here even i'm not bothering to say turkiye when i'm speaking english lmao
10:15pm in Perth, Western Australia. Don’t think you’ll ever make it this far south west from NY, but, at least I can tune in. I couldn’t believe that a person brought up a serious mental health issue at a comedy performance, & then got shitty about the response. Please go & get appropriate help.
Ashley, I can only tell you I’m supportive from afar. Cheers, yvonne, v.grey-haired lesbian
MADDIE IS BACK!!!
I love the sibling idea, if the siblings are close.
The cut back to last week’s gay thought bc Ashley ran out of gay thoughts only for last week’s gay thought to start the exact same way 😭🤣
I got me undies, I love them... almost as much as I love WHGS! 😁 Great episode!
Loved the episode :)
starbucks on the pod is crazy
No comment about the slave labor used to make our Mac products or the one your using? No ethical consumption under capitalism babe. Trendy wokeness wooh!!!!
@@ashgavs relax ashley i love you i stayed thru all the “trendy wokeness” your fans push on you this wasn’t an attack i just said it’s “crazy” bc i feel like i NEVER see it anywhere anymore these days (for good reason tho ofc fuck starbucks)
@@ashgavs i also know you’re releasing on a delay so maybe pressure wasn’t as crazy when this was filmed but the pressure just seems so crazy now seeing it surprised me haha
CAN YOU GET VICTORIA PEDRETTI ON THE POD PLEASEEEE PLEASE IM BEGGING. She played a queer character in the haunting of bly manor, did a queer audio erotica story for the Quinn app, and I think she’s playing a queer character in a new short called fall risk. I think she might identify as straight but she wouldn’t be the first straight guest and also I have a severe parasocial relationship with her PLEASE GET HER ON
Omg Maddie went to the book loft!! Slay
my lesbian parents had three kids-all by sperm donors. both my parents wanted to carry. my brother was birthed by mom A using the sperm from the sibling of mom B. mom B had my sister and i using an anonymous sperm donor. for our family it was absolutely normal. my brother never felt that his “father” was anything other than his moms brother and my moms brother just knew my brother as his sisters child. anyone that thinks it’s weird should reevaluate themselves. it’s the best option for some family’s and in the early 90s that was the best option for my mothers.
i was able to meet my sperm donor later in life which but again i feel nothing other than him as my sperm donor. he owes me nothing. he is genetically my father but was never my parent. my mothers were. i think if you properly explain these things in age appropriate language as you raise your children, answering their questions when they have them, you will be successful in raising your children as a lesbian couple.
Ashley, I agree with you with the bangs... I don't like very short bangs except maybe in very specific people, and that's a big maybe.
Love Kylie but also so happy to see Maddie is here!!
When i hear "unalive" in person in real life i have a fucking aneurysm
MADDIE UR HAIR LOOKS SO CUTE
😎😃😊😜😍😘💖🌹 This discussion opened my mind to so many things! THANK YOU!
I have so many questions about semen allergies now. Their diet? Don't vegans eat nuts? Are there other things like genetic factors? Are some sperms more allergenic than others? I'm going to need a Kurzgezart video on this...
I look forward to seeing you in Cbus! I hope you make it out to slammers!
Maddie was on fucking FIRE this episode 🔥
Maddie! The denim and white t look is great!
It feels funny to hype up a kinda basic outfit but I also agree. White tee and jeans is just classic
I think there were a lot of important things said about the gender discussion in this episode.
Maddie you were so missed
Maddie is so funny omg
Gay face is a thing because when I saw Kristen Stewart in that Jodie Foster movie when she was only 12 or 13 it was obvious by just her face that she was either gay or at least Bi.
Have you considered Jake Cornell? Just a casual para social suggestion
I personally feel we’re all just trying to find a label that best describes the percentage of masculine/feminine energy we all carry in our born physical bodies… i think it also shifts based on the inevitable experiences humans go through which is why gender and sexuality labels can get a bit murky. In the end there truly is no such thing as gender as energy is gender fluid/genderless.
I do also believe some are either so set in their ways and closed that their universal energy is fixed/blocked to just one feminine/masculine side. I mean we all have blocked people in our lives that would listen to this perspective and think I’m on drugs😂😂
Maddie is 100 when she said fixed labels are easy to market for… they’re basically sub niches.
BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION ❤❤❤ (open to thoughts and other perspectives as this stuff fascinates me)
Good show
Omg I know what Ashley means about droopy face… I have droopy face! What’s the fix??!
The gender conversation was interesting although one thing I'd be curious about is if they knew something like 1/4 or 1/3 of people don't think in language they think in sort of amorphous images and concepts and blobs ( I dunno. I'm a language thinker. That's sort of how I've heard it described). So they still experience gendered thoughts but they aren't in words
loved the gender convo. i feel like a millennial who has a complex gender relationship but identifies as a woman, with gen z non binary friends and we really are dealing with the same inner experiences but with different tools and words. How special to realize humans are humaning across generations lol.
Thank you for the politics talk! My state (of Australia) is about to have an election, and I am very interested in politics - I've actually just started studying it at uni. However, it really seems like no one cares as much as they should. Almost everyone at the moment doesn't want to engage in politics or democracy. I'm seventeen, so lots of my friends are turning eighteen and will be voting for the first time, but they mostly resent having to vote (in Australia, voting is compulsory). I'm feeling very frustrated, and also frustrated that no one else seems to share my frustration.
Okay here there are a lot of bisexuals that will not sleep with trans people I know try to make sense of it. So, as a trans woman when someone says they are pansexual. It's a great indicator that they are safe to approach if I am interested.
I do identify As pansexual Some of it for the reason above and the other. I'm into more than Two genders and bi means two
Also I'm polyamorous 😂😂
Fair enough. Honestly I don't know if I would be with a binary trans person. I don't have enough experience from having crushes. I can't know if it's really 'all' genders. And aren't there technically as many gender variations as there are people? But I'm not attracted to every single person. Nobody is though.
You may never know, someone may get a crush on you who didn't identify as pan before. Sometimes people identify as gay/straight and are with a trans partner. But there is this separate label for bi people who are open to it, but not for the straights and gays.
Idk. It feels a bit too demanding to need to know this about yourself in order to have a label. There aren't that many trans people out there. I feel like many people wouldn't know this about themselves. I prefer the word queer because of this but my first language doesn't have an equivalent, so I may say I'm a 'rainbow person' (it means lgbtq) but that's not really a sexuality, it's a political identity (stating you belong to a marginalized group).
Sorry for complaining. I'm glad you find safety in the word.
@raapyna8544 We all have our own journey when it comes to gender and sexuality. And your beliefs and feelings are yours. All you can do Is own them. Just be yourself that's the best you can do
29:14 My partner wants me to carry his egg and ask my brother with green eyes to donate his sperm. I gives me the "ick" to carry my partner's fertilized egg with my brother's sperm inside my own body. On so many levels. I'll elaborate if you want more thoughts on this from a complete stranger, Ashley.
Then your partner should carry
Ashley is such a bro it hurts
Actually turkiye changed its name because they didnt want to be confused with the bird. And i think thats hilarious
I feel like I have disappointed father. I am a former lesbian turned non-binary person
A silly group that wears a lot of beige reallyyyy hit 😂😂
See you in Amsterdam 🎉
Jen’s gay thought at the end was too good
verilybitchie has so many great videos discussing the pansexual vs bisexual debate! if you want a more well thought out discussion I recommend
watching them also made me feel so much better about my own sexuality so if you’re in the multisexual umbrella it might too
Bi and pan are the same thing. The difference is aesthetics. If you prefer to go by bisexual, go for it. If you prefer to go by pansexual, go for it. You're valid either way. There is no concrete difference, and attempting to draw one is counterproductive as fuck
The concrete diff to me has always been that in breaking down the definition, Bi people like typically cis men or cis women, or at least people in a specific gender box. Pan usually indicates that gender is irrelevant and can be cis people, trans people, non binary, etc. But I agree that focusing on nomenclature is usually for non queer folks to understand us more than for us to understand ourselves ultimately. Im also 32 now and it sounds like definitions are changing. In my age group if you date non-binary folks and dont care about gender thats more pan, if youll date a "man or woman" it would be Bi.
@@nicolabreslauer1529 nah, there is no concrete difference. Bi people and pan people can be equally into nonbinary people and other trans people. It is a fool's errand to try to identify a concrete difference, because there isn't any.
Contraproductive? People Love to find minute differences in everyday stuff. To most people Doom, Dark and Death metal is exactly the same, just like colombian and brasilian coffe ,westcoast or easycoast ipa. People who are into leather versus into latex not to mention all the flavours of socialism.
Coke or Pepsi. Star Trek vs. Star Wars All the different kinds of feminism.
This! By definitions I could identify as either. Bi is usually easier for people to understand. Pan probs fits a little better but eh, it's splitting hairs.
My definition of my brand of bisexuality is I'm attracted to genders like my own and genders not like my own.
It works out great.
loved jen's gay thought
The short bangs reminds me of a toddler that got ahold of the scissors when mom wasn't looking... I did that but not my bangs. I took a tiny chunk off the ends... Somehow mom noticed 🤷🤦
not sure if you're taking guest suggestions but I'd love to see more non north americans on the pod and Kidology on youtube just came out as a lesbian a few weeks ago and I think would be a fun guest!
As a femme bisexual I see you ash its ok ❤ i get the whole not queer enough thing I've felt like that my whole life - I only got told by your server recently that I look gay and some girl flirted with me a while ago without me saying anything or being in a lgbtq setting.
no pls his name is David Crosby who was in Crosby, Stills, & Nash, not Bill Crosby😭
Personally, my reason for calling myself bi instead of pan is because I consider trans women, women & trans men, men. Bi means 2 & I don't see being trans as a separate gender. 🤷🏻♀️
I 100% believe in gay face, the rules of gay face are: if you have gay face, you are gay (even if you don't know it) but you can be gay and not have gay face, i.e., gay face is not a necessary condition of being gay but more a random bi-product that occurs in some gay people. Also, gay hands exists (but the rules for that are completely different).
Beep boop 🤖 algorithm engaged
The political and gender theory corners are wonderful
No one picked on gen x because they forgot we existed and they also we are feral.
Ruby reminds me of....feral/boomerang kid from Mad Max.
So Sorry
Maddie's theory corner (cause that's what it is lol) is the hottest thing for me!!! 😂 Maddie's hot and gets 50% hotter when we're in "the corner"
I had a feeling you were considering Jen's brother as sperm donor. And for the record, no, I don't think that's weird at all.
Get Ilana Glazer on the pod
Perhaps there could be a viewer submitted gay thought.
I nominate Chris Distafano
Matteo Lane?
Duh
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I think there's more of an issue with "pansexual" than it just seeming "annoying" or like we have too many labels. I feel like people have really truly forgotten this or are from a generation that's simply too young to know this, but the "pansexual" term arose originally from severe transphobia. As a bisexual woman, when the term was in it's infancy it would be weaponized against me.
I'm bisexual, so I'm good with both men and women. I've also been with trans women. The moment people heard that, they'd go, "Oh, so you're pan." I'd politely inquire and they'd say, "You're into trans people too, so you're not bi, you're pan." It was a term that started to be born from people putting trans people as "other" instead of their identifying gender and therefore not within the gaze of a bisexual person. Even if it's being redefined by the current generation, I really do think it's a term that simply needs to go. If we have to split sexuality into these neat little categories for some reason, I'd rather we just use a whole different word, to be quite honest.
This has been my problem with pansexual as well. It overshoots being inclusive and lands on being the opposite. I honestly feel that is something that can be said for a lot of the gen Z gender discussions. It gets so pointlessly into the nitty gritty details that it creates divisions where there aren't any. But that's just this old millenials opinion.
Wow. Thank you for this comment. I’d never thought of it through this lens.. pinning pansexuality onto someone vs. bisexual one could glean that trans women are in fact not women and fall into an “other” category - same for trans men. Something new is learned every day, and I’m glad this was today’s lesson. Wow. Thank you again.
Yeah, bisexual here, and I have felt like that sometimes. Also, I think the multiplying of labels and micro definitions is not helping as a community, I understand that they serve as a way for people to identify and create community, but in the end it's a way to divide people even more.
I'm Gen X. I just use queer. I like hearing everyone else's perspectives though 💖
exactly this
😂😂😂 recycled gay thought
It is a gay thought worth repeating though
even though isnt super funny but i enjoyed all the philosophical discussions. this ep really touched on a lot of aspects of my life, being trans, queer, gen z, linguist
Get Dan Howell on the podcast! He just released his 2hr special We're All Doomed!
Idk about the society imposed gender norms so much, I think that’s true for a very large number of people, but as a fairly androgynous woman and the oldest of 4 kids, my brothers have been BOYS and my sister has been a GIRL very much from birth despite having a teacher mom who really didn’t force anything gendered on any of us as kids. We really didn’t get stereotypes until school age when other people brought it into our world, but my siblings are so stereotypically their assigned gender and have been genuinely from birth I can’t say it’s all bullshit. I think gender stereotypes exist for a reason, we’re just learning as society evolves that there are a lot of people who don’t fit in those boxes, and more importantly that that is completely okay
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Classist much?