It's really a shame that EA hasn't capitalized on this. There is so much content that can be made with this universe and EA seems to just not know how to handle a great IP.
Been replaying the games and it’s curious to consider that many of the forgotten may have been GDI/NOD veterans. I remember in one of the cutscenes Carter talks about how he and all his men are suffering from T poisoning. Not to mention how many men you may command to move through Tib field. I always had a soft spot for the forgotten, imagining they were not just mad about being left behind by the world but by the flags they fought for. Men and women truly forgotten.
We will be remembered We will be remembered We will be remembered We will be remembered We will be remembered When you trained Horde in the Tib wars mod.
I love the choice of "The Spice Must Flow" track from Emperor Battle for Dune. It fits the desolate landscape of TibWar II and is indirectly referencing the Fremen, which the Forgotten can be argued to be the C&C version of.
Such a underrated and "forgetten" faction. Kinda shame Forgotten haven't been given more screen action during Tib War III (God bless the community and Carnius for "Tiberium Essence" though). Their lifes are hard, land is unforgiving, but they survive. They ALWAYS survive. That's commendable and worth respect. Also they have other badasses outside Ghost Stalker and Hijacker. (20:12) 😎
In Tiberium Wars Advanced mod, there are very nice Mutant units Like Marauder (gatling guns), Sentinels (rocket launchers) and Vigilantes (laser cannons)
There's also completly separate mod for Forgotten called Tiberium Wars The Forgotten mod! In my personal opinion the best The Forgotten mod there is! Still waiting for Kane's Wrath expansion port!
I’m mostly impressed by the storytelling in the Skirmish maps. The Forgotten forging their own spots across the maps and attacking anyone who gets close was not at all necessary but they added it in.
Telling of the firestorm crisis and how the 'unnamed' Nod commander recovered the tactitus, u are describing your own tactics which is quite funny to me. I love how u incorporate the campaigns that have brought me so much join in my childhood. I always look forward to your uploads, thank you Jethild
And here I thought you were done with the lore. The Forgotten truly got done dirty. From Tratos, the Ghost Stalker and Umagon playing major roles in the GDI and NOD campaigns to a single unit type in CnC 3 to completely absent in the game that we shouldn't talk about that came after Kane's Wrath.
C&C3 was a valiant effort and more than I expected from the post-Westwood era. But it still doesn't live up to Tiberian Sun as a sequel, despite having some interesting ideas for the lore. Ideally I'd have a fresh start after Tiberian Sun that follows it more logically and stylistically.
Imagine if The Forgotten was the main focus of the story for the 4th Tiberium War. GDI would just be a small resistance faction. I think that would be an awesome idea for a game.
I wish the storyline did not have Umagon losing her mind. That's so sad. I also would have liked for there to have been some concept art for the fiends.
YES! Finally Jethild uploaded this video, I was eager to learn about the The Forgotten, it’s been a while since you uploaded your last video Jethild, you never fail to amaze me, just as CnC franchise never fails to amaze me and I appreciate it, I truly do.
Frankly, if the Scrin were more uniquely designed _(gameplay wise, aesthetically they look great),_ it would've been cool to recquire *the Mastermind* (or the Prodigy and the Cultists for Traveler-59) in order to control and recruit the Forgotten. Would've made more sense, since they otherwise would NEVER even consider working with alien invaders.
EA may have forgotten these guys, but we haven't. These guys are some of the best lore in Tiberium series. I wish the Forgotten were given more light in recent CnC games and content, but videos like this are sufficient enough so the Forgotten aren't as their name implies in our eyes. Thank Jethild, you are a credit to your work and a blessing to the community.
They seem pretty cool , I've often wondered how a full faction of forgotten would work in cnc tib wars three and Kane's wraith. While I love the scrin, even if their slightly under developed. I would have loved to see a more individualistic forgotten faction included as well.
ooooh and it would be cool if they had us looking at a forgotten faction that was holding out against the Scrin deep in the red zones and maybe forgotten factions coming together to hold out and maybe fight back the scrin
I am so glad to know that the vid starring this awesome and badass faction is now uploaded. Aside from the mod, it's quite unfortunate that we couldn't see The Forgotten as a playable faction. Mad Max-like atmosphere, Rugged weaponry and outfits, Outcast veterans.. They just deserve more love and attention. 😎👍
[To Jethild, beloved Command and Conquer multiverse lore teller youtuber!] I know you probably don't review mods for lore, but I will ask to review one nontheles - I want you to review Tiberium Wars The Forgotten mod, best mod for Forgotten in my opinion! But if you don't want to do, it's more than fine, although I still recommend to play and enjoy this mod in your free time!
39:45 don't Scrin canonically have mind-control capabilities? And if so, wouldn't capturing the muitants' resting place enable them to... "Persuade" them to join their cause?
I think my head cannon of their arsenal is that they use variety of old tech weapons from Tiberium Dawn and the Red Alert 1 Weapons modified to suit their needs.
There is a mod for TibWars named - The Forgotten, with its own mutants campaign. In this campaign you can see where have been the mutants and what are they did during Third Tiberium war. It can be easily implemented in canon.
Tiberian Sun is still the best C&C when it comes to story and atmosphere. A very dark chapter in the Tiberium universe and that's what makes it so exciting. Here the GDI also shows its true face about the forgotten ones. Take the scene where Umagoon asks Mc Neil for help to free the prisoners. In return, the forgotten people support the GDI. General Solomon's response is clear and invalidates the response to the GDI's alleged attack on the Forgotten. The Forgotten would be allies of the GDI xD. What is irony allowed? In Tiberium Wars, only pure humans were allowed into the blue zones, everything else went into the yellow zones. That's why I'm not surprised at all by the hatred against the GDI :D. More for Nod ^^ Great video from you ^^
can't really blame GDI though, considering the stage of tiberium at that time and inviting the forgotten into the blue zone would risk further tiberium spread. GDI's doing their best, but they can't save anyone. At least they are kind enough to build mutant hovels in yellow zones instead of just abandoning them.
Sad that the non-canon C&C 3 mod The Forgotten didn't make it in the video as some thrown breadcrumbs, like "rumors say that some forgotten fought against the brotherhood and helped destroy a hidden scrin control node captured and protected by Nod." The add-on story from C&C Labs is amazing and everyone should play the Forgotten campaign mod.
'Forgotten' always seemed like an misnomer to me. 'Adapted' or 'Inheritors' is much more fitting. Even if Terra is reclaimed, the Scryn have many planets that, presumably, could be taken over much more easily by humans that are adapted to Tiberium. This apparently stable mutation (many seem to live past their 20s, that's stable enough for a civilization to arise) will be invaluable to humanity's future strength within the setting.
9:00 might not be the weight but the weight distribution, its got a lot of surface area and the bike its all condensed on like 2 small points (where the tires make contact)
I always found it a shame how The Forgotten were, well, forgotten in C&C3 and onward. Would have been neat to have them slowly turn into the third playable faction instead of aliens.
this made me redownload cnc 3 just to play the essence mod, the older forgotten mod is awesome too and if anyone doesnt know about it they should try it.
I like watching you videos. They are always informative and explain things very good. As someone who was introduced to C&C when I bought Tiberium Wars on a Steam sale a few years ago, I appreciate you videos. I also like how you totally ignored Tiberian Twillight. Terrible game.
Or as my brother just said, "When blunts become exposed/filled with that dank green they become lit" ^ Probably what Pro Tiberium Nod Propaganda directed at 'youngsters' looks like in the game universe... 🤔/😆
It’s enraging just how much Ubisoft crapped on Tiberium sun. The forgotten in T-sun were mostly stable and were an independent faction. Mutants fought on both sides, and the battle was far less clear-cut. GDI was clearly somewhat corrupt, and Nod had good points, but Nod was unambiguously the bad guys. Gameplay was far different, with actual base building, including gates, pavement, and significant differences in style. Superweapons didn’t clear the map, and there were differences in Tiberium. Blue was worth more, but was rare and didn’t regenerate. Green did, but was worth half as much. Heck, there were even tiberium veins which resembled a sarlacc. Units didn’t have a queue, only building time. There were more options to organize units too.
I'm cooking up a modification for the Beyond the Gates of Antares tabletop gaming rules for Tiberian Sun. Definitely including the Forgotten as a full faction!
Potentially the assimilator either mind controls like the mastermind or spreads the foreman's control of tiberium based life to the Marauders when capturing the mutant hovel
9:27 Typo: "lightning infantry units" 17:51 Given that the singular form is "pentosi", shouldn't the plural be "pentosis"? Or is this to avoid confusing the term as being one formed with the suffix -osis?
Never fails to amaze me how massive and thought out the C&C universe is
Old games really were made with love and passion
It's really a shame that EA hasn't capitalized on this. There is so much content that can be made with this universe and EA seems to just not know how to handle a great IP.
@@shakenbakejake25 EA can and will turn everything to crap so no better to leave C&C dead then to get another game whose name shall remain unspoken
Jethild really adds extra depth to things too. Also... I miss live-action cutscenes.
This could be a franchise. A great tv show as well
New games still are. It's usually AAA games that have become factory assembly line products. AA or indie games still have many, many passion projects.
Been replaying the games and it’s curious to consider that many of the forgotten may have been GDI/NOD veterans. I remember in one of the cutscenes Carter talks about how he and all his men are suffering from T poisoning. Not to mention how many men you may command to move through Tib field. I always had a soft spot for the forgotten, imagining they were not just mad about being left behind by the world but by the flags they fought for. Men and women truly forgotten.
Happens irl too I think. Soldiers being betrayed by their own nation.
@@ziephel-6780 Oh yeah!
We will be remembered
We will be remembered
We will be remembered
We will be remembered
We will be remembered
When you trained Horde in the Tib wars mod.
I cringe so hard everytime lmao
That mod should be canon!
@@commissarkordoshky219 the only I cringe in the unit is the sidewinder
The Mod is called "The Forgotten" ^^
@@stream8944 I know. And it should be canon.
I love the choice of "The Spice Must Flow" track from Emperor Battle for Dune. It fits the desolate landscape of TibWar II and is indirectly referencing the Fremen, which the Forgotten can be argued to be the C&C version of.
Looking forward to this vid. Ironically I've completely forgotten who the forgotten are.
The Who? 🤨
😏/😆
More like fittingly enough 😅
Such a underrated and "forgetten" faction.
Kinda shame Forgotten haven't been given more screen action during Tib War III (God bless the community and Carnius for "Tiberium Essence" though). Their lifes are hard, land is unforgiving, but they survive. They ALWAYS survive. That's commendable and worth respect. Also they have other badasses outside Ghost Stalker and Hijacker. (20:12) 😎
Tib essence is so damn good, waiting on that cabal faction
best mod for tiberium wars i think it truley shows what would happen if GDI didn't fully back off their military
In Tiberium Wars Advanced mod, there are very nice Mutant units
Like Marauder (gatling guns), Sentinels (rocket launchers) and Vigilantes (laser cannons)
There's also completly separate mod for Forgotten called Tiberium Wars The Forgotten mod! In my personal opinion the best The Forgotten mod there is! Still waiting for Kane's Wrath expansion port!
41 minute video on the forgotton.
damn I love your channel, your passion. keep up the good work.
I’m mostly impressed by the storytelling in the Skirmish maps. The Forgotten forging their own spots across the maps and attacking anyone who gets close was not at all necessary but they added it in.
OH yes! Thank you I've been awaiting this one!
The mod for CNC 3 made me love the mutants as a faction!
Telling of the firestorm crisis and how the 'unnamed' Nod commander recovered the tactitus, u are describing your own tactics which is quite funny to me.
I love how u incorporate the campaigns that have brought me so much join in my childhood. I always look forward to your uploads, thank you Jethild
Alright who turned CABAL back on? Actually HOW did they turn CABAL back on?
And here I thought you were done with the lore. The Forgotten truly got done dirty. From Tratos, the Ghost Stalker and Umagon playing major roles in the GDI and NOD campaigns to a single unit type in CnC 3 to completely absent in the game that we shouldn't talk about that came after Kane's Wrath.
The Forbidden game 🚫💀
@@AdhvaithSane Kane may live in death, but that game is beyond even his ability to save.
There is no game beyond C&C kane's wrath.
The game that shall not be named. The name is Jinxed, like Voldemort in the deathly hallows.
There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy and there is no C&C 4.
The atmosphere and setting in Tiberian Sun is so haunting that Tib Wars 3 felt like a downgrade but a great game still along with it's expansion
C&C3 was a valiant effort and more than I expected from the post-Westwood era. But it still doesn't live up to Tiberian Sun as a sequel, despite having some interesting ideas for the lore. Ideally I'd have a fresh start after Tiberian Sun that follows it more logically and stylistically.
"We will not be Forgotten!"
Who said that? I can't remember
damn I forgot
Wasn't it the mutant marauders?
EA "Don't be so sure about that"
Did someone just fart here?
Imagine if The Forgotten was the main focus of the story for the 4th Tiberium War. GDI would just be a small resistance faction. I think that would be an awesome idea for a game.
There were two big reasons McNeil worked so well with Umagon: her bravery and skill at arms!
I was always disappointed they never made this a fully fleshed out faction in an expansion
Me too!
yep would have loved a campaign of them getting back at both nod and gdi
Mods are a blessing here.
Whenever Jethild uploads a new C&C related video, it's a nostalgia trip back to the good old days. 👍
And with more detail!!!!
It’s amazing how adaptable and universal Tiberium is. Can be used as biological mutator, fuel, armor, etc.
I wish the storyline did not have Umagon losing her mind. That's so sad. I also would have liked for there to have been some concept art for the fiends.
Agreed
Been binging your videos and have to say this is a pleasant surprise
The initiates, acolytes and templars struck deep fear into a 12 year old me
YES! Finally Jethild uploaded this video, I was eager to learn about the The Forgotten, it’s been a while since you uploaded your last video Jethild, you never fail to amaze me, just as CnC franchise never fails to amaze me and I appreciate it, I truly do.
This channel is really convincing me to play the Tiberium games
Last I played them was about 20 years ago
I hope You will never run out of such good C&C content!!! Awesome video! Keep up the good work!
👍🏻
Awesome! Long time without C&C lore! Firstly like, then watch
Oh wow I have completely forgotten about this guys. Thanks for the upload.
One of my favorite videos yet! Best atmospheric and aesthetics treatment so far
Ditto
Thanks for making c&c content, the golden age of RTS cannot be "forgotten" ❤
39:34 I just kinda assumed that they used mind control like the mastermind does, and later, the prodigy and cultists could.
Frankly, if the Scrin were more uniquely designed _(gameplay wise, aesthetically they look great),_ it would've been cool to recquire *the Mastermind* (or the Prodigy and the Cultists for Traveler-59) in order to control and recruit the Forgotten. Would've made more sense, since they otherwise would NEVER even consider working with alien invaders.
EA may have forgotten these guys, but we haven't. These guys are some of the best lore in Tiberium series. I wish the Forgotten were given more light in recent CnC games and content, but videos like this are sufficient enough so the Forgotten aren't as their name implies in our eyes. Thank Jethild, you are a credit to your work and a blessing to the community.
Amazing work Jethild 👍
If they ever remaster tiberium sun, they should add a forgotten campaign.
Agreed
Fuck hope. They will never remastered it.
They did we all just forgot it.
I needed this today.
They seem pretty cool , I've often wondered how a full faction of forgotten would work in cnc tib wars three and Kane's wraith. While I love the scrin, even if their slightly under developed. I would have loved to see a more individualistic forgotten faction included as well.
ooooh and it would be cool if they had us looking at a forgotten faction that was holding out against the Scrin deep in the red zones and maybe forgotten factions coming together to hold out and maybe fight back the scrin
Lets Go! new Jethild video! that makes today amazing!
Glad too see some more content 👍
👍🏻
Nice to see The Forgotten get remembered.
Lesgo more jethild content!
I completely forgot about these guys!
I am so glad to know that the vid starring this awesome and badass faction is now uploaded.
Aside from the mod, it's quite unfortunate that we couldn't see The Forgotten as a playable faction.
Mad Max-like atmosphere, Rugged weaponry and outfits, Outcast veterans..
They just deserve more love and attention. 😎👍
hey youre back. thats awesome. Love your work, You always bring a little bit of light in this dark world we live in. I appreciate the things you do.
Welcome back Commander.
About time The Forgotten comes into the subject.
[To Jethild, beloved Command and Conquer multiverse lore teller youtuber!]
I know you probably don't review mods for lore, but I will ask to review one nontheles - I want you to review Tiberium Wars The Forgotten mod, best mod for Forgotten in my opinion! But if you don't want to do, it's more than fine, although I still recommend to play and enjoy this mod in your free time!
39:45 don't Scrin canonically have mind-control capabilities? And if so, wouldn't capturing the muitants' resting place enable them to... "Persuade" them to join their cause?
This series is by far the best format ever
And still the best by far!!!!!
Agreed
Good as always!
Huge fan of your Work!! Keep up the great stuff.
Another 1 for my collection
39:33 I think Scrin Assimilatiors can capture a Mutant Hovel and recruit using mind control device
"We will not be Forgotten." Neither will Jethild. Love all his videos.
Oooh this guys ! I forgotten about em.
Every time we think he's done, he comes back with a new piece!
👍🏻
I think my head cannon of their arsenal is that they use variety of old tech weapons from Tiberium Dawn and the Red Alert 1 Weapons modified to suit their needs.
Babe wake up, new Jethild just dropped!
🥱 okay, I’m up too
It strange how Nod have a strong dislike toward the forgotten when Kane was trying to remake the world which the Forgotten can thrive in.
🤔 true, I never thought about that
I'm so glad C&C has not been forgotten.
They're the Remembered now
Excellent video ❤
Ditto
allways good and hi q video from you. thank you. ❤
There is a mod for TibWars named - The Forgotten, with its own mutants campaign. In this campaign you can see where have been the mutants and what are they did during Third Tiberium war. It can be easily implemented in canon.
we will not be forgotten
Its about time
Imagine if the old games got a CC3 like remaster. Full 3d and graphic overhaul. That would be a dream come true for me.
Love your stuff buddy can't watch it now but I'm dropping a 👍 so I don't have to later lol
👍🏻
Jethild keeping C&C alive.
wooo hooooo anoter lore video thank you😁
If they ever do a remake of Tiberian Sun I hope that the forgotten become a playable faction.
Tiberian Sun is still the best C&C when it comes to story and atmosphere. A very dark chapter in the Tiberium universe and that's what makes it so exciting. Here the GDI also shows its true face about the forgotten ones. Take the scene where Umagoon asks Mc Neil for help to free the prisoners. In return, the forgotten people support the GDI. General Solomon's response is clear and invalidates the response to the GDI's alleged attack on the Forgotten. The Forgotten would be allies of the GDI xD. What is irony allowed?
In Tiberium Wars, only pure humans were allowed into the blue zones, everything else went into the yellow zones. That's why I'm not surprised at all by the hatred against the GDI :D. More for Nod ^^
Great video from you ^^
can't really blame GDI though, considering the stage of tiberium at that time and inviting the forgotten into the blue zone would risk further tiberium spread. GDI's doing their best, but they can't save anyone. At least they are kind enough to build mutant hovels in yellow zones instead of just abandoning them.
so much I didnt know about the Forgotten, pity they didnt expand on them and make them a playable faction, could have been great,
Wait, there we FIENDS in that rescue mission?! I've been doing it wrong.
How intresting work on the Forgotten
May they be GDI's greatest ally in the war to come.
I really hope another developer gets their hands on the rights to cnc and expands on the lore of the universe. It's fascinating.
Sad that the non-canon C&C 3 mod The Forgotten didn't make it in the video as some thrown breadcrumbs, like "rumors say that some forgotten fought against the brotherhood and helped destroy a hidden scrin control node captured and protected by Nod." The add-on story from C&C Labs is amazing and everyone should play the Forgotten campaign mod.
Hey jethild when will you make a Nod support structures video.
Yes
How about the evolution of the Temple of NOD instead?
'Forgotten' always seemed like an misnomer to me. 'Adapted' or 'Inheritors' is much more fitting. Even if Terra is reclaimed, the Scryn have many planets that, presumably, could be taken over much more easily by humans that are adapted to Tiberium. This apparently stable mutation (many seem to live past their 20s, that's stable enough for a civilization to arise) will be invaluable to humanity's future strength within the setting.
And fittingly, they were forgotten in later C&C parts. Instead, the developers had the "original" idea of adding aliens as a 3rd faction to the game.
the most interesting faction, nice.
Agreed
9:00 might not be the weight but the weight distribution, its got a lot of surface area and the bike its all condensed on like 2 small points (where the tires make contact)
I always found it a shame how The Forgotten were, well, forgotten in C&C3 and onward. Would have been neat to have them slowly turn into the third playable faction instead of aliens.
I was hoping to see the story of "The Forgotten Mod" of Tiberium wars included 😞
this made me redownload cnc 3 just to play the essence mod, the older forgotten mod is awesome too and if anyone doesnt know about it they should try it.
👍🏻
nice
We will be remembered - horde in Tiberum wars - Fogotten mod.
I would have loved it if they were a playable faction for CnC3.
Epic
I like watching you videos. They are always informative and explain things very good. As someone who was introduced to C&C when I bought Tiberium Wars on a Steam sale a few years ago, I appreciate you videos.
I also like how you totally ignored Tiberian Twillight. Terrible game.
They’re basically Tiberiumverse’s Fremen
Still loving your great videos and for not mentioning what’s happening in this ominous c&c 4.
Is very interesting as the mutants was can adapt for the tiberium wars, specialy for domesticate the tiberiun fields
Can you covered red alert next time you post?
He will. Just be patient.
They have great mod for tibwars in which the developers themselves made cutscenes (something I very appreciated)
3:17 All I got from this video is, when blunts become exposed to tiberium they become lit... 🤔
😏/😅/😆
Or as my brother just said, "When blunts become exposed/filled with that dank green they become lit"
^ Probably what Pro Tiberium Nod Propaganda directed at 'youngsters' looks like in the game universe... 🤔/😆
It’s enraging just how much Ubisoft crapped on Tiberium sun. The forgotten in T-sun were mostly stable and were an independent faction. Mutants fought on both sides, and the battle was far less clear-cut. GDI was clearly somewhat corrupt, and Nod had good points, but Nod was unambiguously the bad guys. Gameplay was far different, with actual base building, including gates, pavement, and significant differences in style. Superweapons didn’t clear the map, and there were differences in Tiberium. Blue was worth more, but was rare and didn’t regenerate. Green did, but was worth half as much. Heck, there were even tiberium veins which resembled a sarlacc. Units didn’t have a queue, only building time. There were more options to organize units too.
Ubisoft? When have they own C&C?
You should make a video about the Forgotten mod
I'm cooking up a modification for the Beyond the Gates of Antares tabletop gaming rules for Tiberian Sun. Definitely including the Forgotten as a full faction!
Potentially the assimilator either mind controls like the mastermind or spreads the foreman's control of tiberium based life to the Marauders when capturing the mutant hovel
9:27 Typo: "lightning infantry units"
17:51 Given that the singular form is "pentosi", shouldn't the plural be "pentosis"? Or is this to avoid confusing the term as being one formed with the suffix -osis?