Thanks for showing all this. I got two of these reels. I always wondered how the bait-runner drag was implemented. Now I know and I'm very surprised (and shocked). It's these two very small washers integrated in the knob on the back of the reel. And you mentioned that these can get hot. I can imagine that! I don't think that I will buy other baitrunners in the future. I will use regular reels instead or the ones with some quick drag system. Also much lesser complex to tear down and reassemble.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. If I said in the video that the rear drag washers can get very hot, I misspoke or my words were mumbled. The baitrunner rear drag doesn't really get that hot, as once the fish hits, you're switching from the rear to the front drag to fight the fish.
@@TSGReelService Thanks for your answer. Today's typical carp fishers camp and sleep in their bivvy's, have their rods placed a mile away from them and let the fish run forever. But I agree with you. The baitrunner is a kind of "proven concept". It's the maintenance of this drag that I see as an issue.
@@TSGReelService Hi, good question. Here in the Netherlands it's strictly (mainly) sport fishing. But for a catch from open waters, there is no law that prevent you from eating that carp. We have many people from Polen and former USSR countries. They like to eat carp. So you can buy some carp at the fishmonger in the Netherlands.
@@squirreltamer2548 I have the 4000 and 8000. The 4000 is very versatile. On a 7 foot medium rod you can handle anything from overshot reds to sheepshead and anything in between.
Pulled mine apart for a basic grease up, used your video to help figure out how to take the baitrunner flip off, fantastic resource thanks for your effort. I did run into a problem however, I didn’t take anything apart just the side plate, applied grease, then reassembled, now it catches, feels like something it catching or snagging on the wind, surprising as I didn’t fiddle with any gears or components, any suggestions mate?
Thanks for watching, Cameron! Two possibilities: 1) the gear may be inserted incorrectly..... find the section of the video that's shows how to reinstall it. 2) there could be more lateral pressure applied to the drive gear..... try a couple things: a) manually remove the side cover and left side bearing.... forcefully insert it into the side plate and try again. b) if the problem persists, try playing with the number of shims on the main gear until you get the feel right. Start with step one first..... very important.
Ho there ,ones more . Before i start my adventure, i need to order 6 Packs break washers, the cal's grease and the penn blue grease. Are there some links on your side, so that you maybe can earn some extra benefit ? Greetings from Hamburg ✌🏻
Hey brother.... I appreciate the ask. If you're purchasing through the United States, yes, if not, no. You can check the video description for details on my affiliates plus direct links to many of the things I use. There's also a link to my community page, where I list sellers that I recommend.... most of them are affiliates, but not all are. Thanks again and all the best when you get into them. Feel free to reach out if you run into any issues. I also do video consulting through Zoom. Email me at tsgreelservice@gmail.com if you're interested in knowing more. Barry
First i got to say : thanks for your work and channel. So many different types and directions . Subscription is out ✌🏻 After a couple of years I want to maintenance all my baitrunner. It has to be. So your video will lead me through the darkness, i hope😉. There are 6 reels to work on: Shimano baitrunner 1× 4000 d 3 × 4000 oc 2 × 6000 oc One thing, before i start: Is there any mechanical difference between the oc and d version ? Thx for your response. Best greetings from Hamburg/Germany S.F.
@@TSGReelService many thanks for that fast answer. You will hear about my succsess. And for sure i will spread the word of your channel 🙏 😉. I will post it on " anglerboard ". Its a huge discussion board for all fishermen in europe. See your name in lights 😀 Greatings ✌🏻
Hello - I have a Shimano Baitrunner 4000D. The issue I have is when the drag is pretty loose and you jerk on the line the drag knob will turn about a 1/2 turn and will tighten the drag. After a few jerks, the drag will get fairly tight and the drag knob will stop turning when jerking. Could this be a bad drag knob? The reel has done this since it was new 6 months ago right out of the box. Thanks in advance - Brandon
Hey Brandon. Hmmm.... if it's been happening since new, I would check the drag stack.... make sure you have one of the keyed (not eared) washers at the top of the stack. Drag stack is correct?.... try using a new drag knob. You could also try lubricating the rubber a little to see if that helps. Barry
What alternative there is for grease bucause I cannot find a reel grease!what did you used to lubricate drag washers?and last but not least how do you lubricate the antireverse body...if you lubricate at all. good tutorial...subscribed!
Thanks for watching and subscribing! You can use marine grease like quicksilver or Yamaha. I used Cals drag grease for the washers. You shouldn't oil those a/r bearings... keep them dry for the best results.
@@TSGReelService thank you very much...maybe I have to clean the antireverse as it feels oily on the housing.The marine grease is ok for the drag washers?
See my response to your other question on the a/r. I'd prefer not to use that grease on the drag washers, but it should be okay. Check them every 5 or so outings to see how they're doing.
Hi there, I call my self Your Reel Doctor and been offering for the last 10 yrs, a reel servicing service here in Zimbabwe. Currently I have 10 Shimano 4000D Baitrunner reels all with the same problem and hoping that you might be able to advise me accordingly. All these reels need to have their Baitrunner Click (RD 13540) replaced but have a Push Nut (RD 5866) that needs to be removed, how if at possible, without damaging the post. Please advise the best way possible. Look forward to hearing from you. Eelco Walraven
Thanks for checking out the video, Eelco. It should be a pretty straightforward lift... if you have tweezers like the one you see me use all the time, I would wedge the two ends of it under the push nut and gently rock the push nut up (leverage), covering it from above so it doesn't go shooting off somewhere. You can also work a screwdriver around it to achieve the same result. For both, just make sure the force you applying is in the same direction as the post (up and down..... no side to side action). After you replace the click tongue/spring, simply push the push nut back down over it. Hope this helps.
@@TSGReelService Hi there, I tried as you suggested but had to try and and use my thinnest screw driver just to get it started and worked my way around as gently as possible only to snap the post off with the nut in place 😢. I have another 9 reels with the same issue to be done but now am nervous. my plan to sort this is to drill a 2mm hole half to 1 mm deep and set the post in here with some super glue. If you have a chance, could you try a video clip that i could watch so that I avoid breaking another. 🙏
@@TSGReelService Hi Barry, not having much luck in regards to that Press nut, because its such a tight fit that there is no room to get the tweezer under so I used my thinnest screw driver under the press nut and without much force and broke off the little post. Re drilled a small pilot hole and re glued it back in place. Any chance of sharing contact details to be able to make coms with you and pics. These press nuts look like the they are of tamper proof design.
Have you ever repaired a shimano soltace 4000fi? I've taken the reel apart cleaned the old grease out replaced with new, and the reel now catches and grinds 🤦♂️
@@TSGReelService not exact time had a repair shop do the repair don’t know if they forgot to put something reel works fine but when I use the baitrunner feature I don’t hear nothing it’s quiet but it works just can’t hear the fish take my bait
@@TSGReelService I would but they fixed it a while ago and I just left it in the box and didn’t pay attention until the other day I went fishing and notice the problem well thanks for the response
Great video! Do all these reels have balance problems? I have exactly the same problem as in this video. th-cam.com/video/aggt4e-9I98/w-d-xo.html My reel almost wants to jump out of my hands. I have Shimano Baitrunner 12000 OC. Is it possible to repair?
Thanks for checking out the video. I don't think they're completely balanced, but not something I think one would notice terribly when it's mounted on a rod. Maybe the reel is missing the counterweight on the rotor?
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Thank you for this video. My 4000D is now less of a mystery .
🙂 You're welcome and thanks for watching! All the best with servicing the reel. Hit the thumbs up and spread the word about the channel.
Thanks for showing all this. I got two of these reels. I always wondered how the bait-runner drag was implemented. Now I know and I'm very surprised (and shocked). It's these two very small washers integrated in the knob on the back of the reel. And you mentioned that these can get hot. I can imagine that! I don't think that I will buy other baitrunners in the future. I will use regular reels instead or the ones with some quick drag system. Also much lesser complex to tear down and reassemble.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. If I said in the video that the rear drag washers can get very hot, I misspoke or my words were mumbled. The baitrunner rear drag doesn't really get that hot, as once the fish hits, you're switching from the rear to the front drag to fight the fish.
@@TSGReelService Thanks for your answer. Today's typical carp fishers camp and sleep in their bivvy's, have their rods placed a mile away from them and let the fish run forever. But I agree with you. The baitrunner is a kind of "proven concept". It's the maintenance of this drag that I see as an issue.
@@johanwithag2432 Ah, yes, you're right..... carp fishing is a little different. Do y'all eat the carp, or are they just a sport fish?
@@TSGReelService Hi, good question. Here in the Netherlands it's strictly (mainly) sport fishing. But for a catch from open waters, there is no law that prevent you from eating that carp. We have many people from Polen and former USSR countries. They like to eat carp. So you can buy some carp at the fishmonger in the Netherlands.
@@johanwithag2432 Ah, okay, got it!
Thanks. Great video. I got my reel serviced on my own. Lots of moving parts......
Excellent! Thanks for watching! Spread the word about the channel.
Really a well done video! Thanks for teaching!
You're welcome and thanks for watching! Spread the word about the channel.
Thank you I really appreciate it, I highly recommend that reel
You're welcome, Money! Glad to get you the material you need to care for your reel.
Do you have any experience with the baitrunner 3500? If so how does the 4000 compare?
@@squirreltamer2548 I have the 4000 and 8000. The 4000 is very versatile. On a 7 foot medium rod you can handle anything from overshot reds to sheepshead and anything in between.
@@Charlestonkayakandfishing thank you!
I was just wondering where you got all the tools you use? The tool you gave to pull the bearings especially?
Check the video description for most of the tools, but it's a no go on the bearing puller.
Excellent detailed tutorial.
Happy Halloween!
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Tad
Thanks Tad! Happy Halloween!
Pulled mine apart for a basic grease up, used your video to help figure out how to take the baitrunner flip off, fantastic resource thanks for your effort. I did run into a problem however, I didn’t take anything apart just the side plate, applied grease, then reassembled, now it catches, feels like something it catching or snagging on the wind, surprising as I didn’t fiddle with any gears or components, any suggestions mate?
Thanks for watching, Cameron! Two possibilities:
1) the gear may be inserted incorrectly..... find the section of the video that's shows how to reinstall it.
2) there could be more lateral pressure applied to the drive gear..... try a couple things:
a) manually remove the side cover and left side bearing.... forcefully insert it into the side plate and try again.
b) if the problem persists, try playing with the number of shims on the main gear until you get the feel right.
Start with step one first..... very important.
Thanks mate.
Ho there ,ones more .
Before i start my adventure, i need to order 6 Packs break washers, the cal's grease and the penn blue grease.
Are there some links on your side, so that you maybe can earn some extra benefit ?
Greetings from Hamburg ✌🏻
Hey brother.... I appreciate the ask. If you're purchasing through the United States, yes, if not, no. You can check the video description for details on my affiliates plus direct links to many of the things I use. There's also a link to my community page, where I list sellers that I recommend.... most of them are affiliates, but not all are.
Thanks again and all the best when you get into them. Feel free to reach out if you run into any issues. I also do video consulting through Zoom. Email me at tsgreelservice@gmail.com if you're interested in knowing more.
Barry
First i got to say : thanks for your work and channel.
So many different types and directions .
Subscription is out ✌🏻
After a couple of years I want to maintenance all my baitrunner. It has to be.
So your video will lead me through the darkness,
i hope😉.
There are 6 reels to work on:
Shimano baitrunner
1× 4000 d
3 × 4000 oc
2 × 6000 oc
One thing, before i start:
Is there any mechanical difference between the oc and d version ?
Thx for your response.
Best greetings from Hamburg/Germany
S.F.
You're welcome and thanks for the sub from Hamburg! No significant difference between the OC and D. Spread the word about the channel.
@@TSGReelService many thanks for that fast answer.
You will hear about my succsess.
And for sure i will spread the word of your channel 🙏 😉.
I will post it on
" anglerboard ".
Its a huge discussion board for all
fishermen in europe.
See your name in lights 😀
Greatings ✌🏻
@@s.f.4896 Excellent! Thanks in advance for the post! All the best with the reels.
Nice work. Thanks.
Thanks Steve!
Hello -
I have a Shimano Baitrunner 4000D. The issue I have is when the drag is pretty loose and you jerk on the line the drag knob will turn about a 1/2 turn and will tighten the drag. After a few jerks, the drag will get fairly tight and the drag knob will stop turning when jerking. Could this be a bad drag knob? The reel has done this since it was new 6 months ago right out of the box.
Thanks in advance - Brandon
Hey Brandon. Hmmm.... if it's been happening since new, I would check the drag stack.... make sure you have one of the keyed (not eared) washers at the top of the stack. Drag stack is correct?.... try using a new drag knob. You could also try lubricating the rubber a little to see if that helps. Barry
What alternative there is for grease bucause I cannot find a reel grease!what did you used to lubricate drag washers?and last but not least how do you lubricate the antireverse body...if you lubricate at all. good tutorial...subscribed!
Thanks for watching and subscribing! You can use marine grease like quicksilver or Yamaha. I used Cals drag grease for the washers. You shouldn't oil those a/r bearings... keep them dry for the best results.
@@TSGReelService thank you very much...maybe I have to clean the antireverse as it feels oily on the housing.The marine grease is ok for the drag washers?
See my response to your other question on the a/r. I'd prefer not to use that grease on the drag washers, but it should be okay. Check them every 5 or so outings to see how they're doing.
Hi where do u get ur parts from
Hi there,
I call my self Your Reel Doctor and been offering for the last 10 yrs, a reel servicing service here in Zimbabwe.
Currently I have 10 Shimano 4000D Baitrunner reels all with the same problem and hoping that you might be able to advise me accordingly.
All these reels need to have their Baitrunner Click (RD 13540) replaced but have a Push Nut (RD 5866) that needs to be removed, how if at possible, without damaging the post.
Please advise the best way possible.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Eelco Walraven
Thanks for checking out the video, Eelco. It should be a pretty straightforward lift... if you have tweezers like the one you see me use all the time, I would wedge the two ends of it under the push nut and gently rock the push nut up (leverage), covering it from above so it doesn't go shooting off somewhere. You can also work a screwdriver around it to achieve the same result. For both, just make sure the force you applying is in the same direction as the post (up and down..... no side to side action).
After you replace the click tongue/spring, simply push the push nut back down over it.
Hope this helps.
@@TSGReelService 👍🏻 Tks vey much for that and yes I have the tweezers and I will definitely give that a go.
@@eelcowalraven8437 you're welcome and no worries. All the best with it.
@@TSGReelService Hi there, I tried as you suggested but had to try and and use my thinnest screw driver just to get it started and worked my way around as gently as possible only to snap the post off with the nut in place 😢. I have another 9 reels with the same issue to be done but now am nervous. my plan to sort this is to drill a 2mm hole half to 1 mm deep and set the post in here with some super glue. If you have a chance, could you try a video clip that i could watch so that I avoid breaking another. 🙏
@@TSGReelService Hi Barry, not having much luck in regards to that Press nut, because its such a tight fit that there is no room to get the tweezer under so I
used my thinnest screw driver under the press nut and without much force and broke off the little post. Re drilled a small pilot hole and re glued it back in place. Any chance of sharing contact details to be able to make coms with you and pics. These press nuts look like the they are of tamper proof design.
Have you ever repaired a shimano soltace 4000fi? I've taken the reel apart cleaned the old grease out replaced with new, and the reel now catches and grinds 🤦♂️
See around minute forty on of this video:
th-cam.com/video/EcuPD9xDrEA/w-d-xo.html
What is the blue grease you are using?
Thanks for watching! Penn.
I have a shimano 6000d I notice now when I engage the baitrunner it doesn’t make noise what could be the problem
Thanks for watching. What time in the video are you referring to?
@@TSGReelService not exact time had a repair shop do the repair don’t know if they forgot to put something reel works fine but when I use the baitrunner feature I don’t hear nothing it’s quiet but it works just can’t hear the fish take my bait
Contact the repair shop and voice your concern.
@@TSGReelService I would but they fixed it a while ago and I just left it in the box and didn’t pay attention until the other day I went fishing and notice the problem well thanks for the response
👍
The anti reverse isn’t working. I did put everything in order. EDIT: I got it fixed. Turned out I needed to put it in anti reverse first.
Glad to hear you got it working.
Great video!
Do all these reels have balance problems? I have exactly the same problem as in this video.
th-cam.com/video/aggt4e-9I98/w-d-xo.html
My reel almost wants to jump out of my hands. I have Shimano Baitrunner 12000 OC.
Is it possible to repair?
Thanks for checking out the video. I don't think they're completely balanced, but not something I think one would notice terribly when it's mounted on a rod. Maybe the reel is missing the counterweight on the rotor?