This video just help getting out of the Nihilist paradigm. In the absolute sense there is no meaning to anything, but that's no reason to get depressed because that means I'm giving meaning to the world not having a meaning. In the relative sense, I get to choose meaning, even if I don't actively choose one, I'll still find meaning somewhere, since the ego needs purpose for survival. So, I get to play the game (illusion) as this character (ego), in this form, which is part of God's manifestation.
Two guys deeply influenced my thinking and the way I see life in general: Leo Gura and Alan Watts! I can't be more grateful for both!!! Love you so much Leo!
When I was younger, I studied and adopted Nietzsche’s philosophies on life and meaning. My strong commitment to the teachings helped me greatly in completing my move from Spiral Dynamics stage Blue to Orange. I remember completely despising religion, and debating my former religious friends, spending dozens of hours studying the nihilistic worldview. After a couple of months, I started spiraling into a sort of chaotic madness, as I neurotically tried to embody the concept of the Ubermensch (Superman). I remained in a constant struggle for a while, always beating myself up to achieve impractical goals. I was also still a teen and it became a really isolated and depressing time in my life. Eventually, I very painfully realized that I had to let all the concepts I’d adopted go, to reconnect with the people I loved and discover the truth of life and reality, stepping into a radically different worldview that took me from Orange to Green. For anyone who sees the limitations of religion and wants to transcend, I suggest you study Frederich Nietzsche and other philosophers like him.
I feel myself right now in a similar place that you were in. I had descended into a kind of madness as well, and now I've cut myself off from most of the people I used to know. Do you have any recommendations for Nietzsche's work on good starting places or literary pieces that were particularly helpful to you?
Leo, you've been putting out some seriously good content lately and I've been watching all of it from start to finish. I appreciate these talks so much, I'm so excited to hear these. Thank you.
Yeah, it keeps getting better. Lighter even. Feel like he was going through really hard stuff in previous videos and it came out in the way he spoke, now it feels kinda like he's chilled out and just wants to share insight.
Thanks for addressing a stage most people go through on the Path. Nihilists find everything meaningless except for the idea of nihilism lol. The best way to dissolve nihilism is to not stand on any ground of extremity. Transcend (but include) both the emptiness/No Self of Buddhism and the Absolutism of Hinduism like Brahman, Atman etc
@@frei5615 where in my reply did I say he does not know? I just asked him to state what makes him feel his opinion is relevant for everyone as he stated. Maybe he is right or maybe he is wrong I haven't came to any conclusions yet.
37:45, 1:20:10 2:05:50 - building your epistemology from scratch by questioning everything 2:08:30 - the steel-man/straw-man thing 2:06:00 - signs that a perspective is higher or lower. 1:29:36 - The Highest Hero's journey. 1:31:15 - The Belly of the Whale 1:21:20 - The 'wiping the slate clean' effect. 1:22:15 - 1:26:53 - Description of Uber-mensch 1:34:00 - Going through nihilism makes you stronger, it's healthy 1:50:30 - The point about learning to not rationalize your preferences in terms of objective truths and normative statements.
This is a masterpiece. The light of truth is radiating from you and you're words. Truth (we can call it 'I') can see that you are talking of the experience of Truth and not the philosophy of truth which is just thinking again.
“I have one major rule: Everybody is right. More specifically, everybody - including me - has some important pieces of truth, and all of those pieces need to be honored, cherished, and included in a more gracious, spacious, and compassionate embrace.” ~ Ken Wilber 🤍
I’m definitely in a place in my life where this really resonates with me Leo. I’ve learned that being honest and genuine with people is key and finding your own purpose that’s fulfilling to you. Spreading love is the highest joy a being can have. Seriously man I know I say this a lot and I’m sure you get this a lot but the work you’re doing here is infinitely valuable. I know you’ve said in past videos you don’t feel people really appreciate the intelligence at work here. I feel my intelligence has grown immensely in the last 5 years listening and contemplating. And you release all this for free which is just jaw dropping. No one like you man you really are doing Gods work. So grateful I found you over a decade ago. Thank you so much Leo :)
This video came when I needed it. It has helped me so much. Thank you! One of the greatest gifts in this world is this free content. It is a joy to enjoy creation. For anyone who is in fear, or in a paralysis, this poem really helped me. Journey by Mary Oliver One day you finally knew what you had to do, and began, though the voices around you kept shouting their bad advice -- thought the whole house began to tremble and you felt the old tug at your ankles. "Mend my life!" each voice cried. But you didn't stop. You knew what you had to do, though the wind pried with its stiff fingers at the very foundations, though their melancholy was terrible. It was already late enough, and a wild night, and the road full of fallen branches and stones. But little by little, as you left their voices behind, the stars began to burn through the sheets of clouds, and there was a new voice which you slowly recognized as your own, that kept you company as you strode deeper and deeper into the world, determined to do the only thing you could do -- determined to save the only life you could save.
Paradoxically, (or perhaps not) this has been for me one of Leo's most life-affirming episodes. It is pure gold and goes much deeper than overcoming the sense of despair that comes with discovering that life is inherently without meaning, it transforms it into the ultimate Meaning. Thank you for this amazing video, Leo.
Yeah what a relief to face Nihilism head on, instead of retreating from it, yet still recognizing that there is life beyond Nihilism, and it may even be an important step along the way.
Amazing critique of Nihilism Leo. I always thought it was something I had to come out of rather than go through, but you’ve helped me to realise I was on the right path all along. Thank you
I paused at 44:43 and I'm sharing with you a poem I wrote just the other day. It's called The Carthographer's Predicament. It's about Direct Experience, or lack there of, and it was also inspired by Leo's talk in the recent podcast where they brought up the expression "The map is not the territory". I fell in love with the universe So I started to draw her Soon enough I got obsessed with the drawing She was so beautiful I couldn’t let myself draw a single misplaced line Not only was she perfect She was also ever-changing So I started to learn her habits If I were to truly capture her I drew multiple arms To do the work for me Each specialized in a narrow pattern After a while I was drawing arms that were drawing arms That were drawing arms And so on I was drawing eyes to watch Her I drew brilliant minds That invented ways of instant drawing Placing the canvas right on top of her It became effortless for me Just watching It was great But after a while All these drawing hands, eyes and minds Started to make assumptions As they could not see her directly Through the canvas anymore Now, I find myself lost In the trickery of these assumptions In a fascinating false world Trying to make my way back home To her.
This reminded me of a poem I wrote at 16. "Sometimes I feel like a showman in front of a blind audience. I tell my jokes and laugh on cue, but all the while, my face is emotionless, blue. My truth is different from yours but equal all the same. So who's to blame when the illusion cracks, and truth brings pain?" I wrote this to reflect how I felt in society. I was so different fitting in became my main mode of survival. As you can imagine it was a very difficult phase. Though I feel much more equipped to handle socialism now. I worked hard to fit in with as many different groups as possible. That helped me become quite the social butterfly.
I love that Leo posts quotes from all kinds of different ideologies, It's really hitting home with me that there's a morsel of truth to be found within any way of thought. :)
I adore this person, Leo is a person who can be my best adviser every moment i need it! Only one thing that I regret about myself after listening to him, is that I feel like I don't dedicate much more time to explore myself and the world deeply and fundamentally, you make me wanna work harder to be better and change environment around me for the better as well! Thank you for sharing every single video, listening and watching to you more than 3 years already! ❣ I love you!
The main spiritual hurdle for myself has been coming to terms with the emptiness of all things. And your right man it takes a decade or two to fully grasp. Grasp it you try…. amidst a spiritual crisis in which the ego is hanging on for dear life, pulling every ingenuous trick out of the god damn hat. Not to mention it can shape shift and take on the form of your highest self for sustained periods of time. The layers are so deep it’s a miracle at all you are ever able to come out the other end. BUT I HAVE ARRIVED LEO ❤️ And thanks to you Leo. I’m sorry brother I’ve been a harsh critic at times. I thought I was the chosen one. TURNS OUT WE ARE ALL THE CHOSEN ONE.
Regardless of whether you agree or not with Leo on everything, this video really sums up everything a Nihilist must consider. One of the best actualized videos.
Your process of breaking down meaning and definition in language is very energetic. I appreciate that. I remember an old video of yours where you explain your whole process of looking up definitions for words and it was really resonant material for me. Thanks for bringing the high quality content once again.
I cannot praise Leo enough for his orignality to deconstruct such deep topics. 👍 Afterall " Right Questions lead to Right answers " and "Wrong questions lead to Wrong answers" and you man are on the right path🙏
Hello. The last third of the video really spoke to me. The past two months after reading the Jed Mckenna trilogy really threw my life into a whirlwind to the point I feel I've been in and out of "psychosis." I feel like outside sources are bringing me down and I'm tryong to be balanced and thinking well if they are, I'm here to heal, but I don't want to be used in any selfish way. I keep feeling like I'm being used sexually in some metaphysical way, and one of if not the strongest desire of mine is to have a totally monogamous relationship where I can go into and out of love and infinity together. So I had a relapse and then just cold turkey quit every addiction including subtle ones, the hardest being jerking and porn and I've been doing semen retention. I am really welcoming to the idea of reiki and kundalini awakening, but I also don't want to get lost in it for years, I want to just use it practically. I feel like I'm being pulled in multiple directions from invisible sources and I had to go through my mind and imagine how I would share myself without being used or abused for selfish purposed, and I imagined how each chakra could be used selfishly and selflessly. And the thing I've been constantly saying in my head is *No, I will heal myself and others and help in my own way without being bogged down by expectations unless a higher intelligence is bringing me to said place for some reason I don't understand yet.* So my ideas for healijg in my own way from root to crown is groundedness, creativity, strength, non-addictive love, the power of my voice, my insights and wisdom, and I guess surrender/cosmic wisdom. When you said at the ens coming back with the holy grail and helping in my own way, that was really the nudge I needed to feel that I was on the right track and not being selfish. The thinf I'm struggling with most is I worry about leaving people behind around me, so I'm trying to balance slowing my practice down while also not stalling, and I feel that this has put me under immense emotional/psychological strain/stress, which moved me to a place of seeing that going for walks is like absolutely necessary lol. But the thing I desire most is a true, deep, passionate, loving, monogamous relationship and I'm having the hardest time deconstructing that desire for a relationship and seeing it as just a belief and I'm trying so hard to hold true to it ans change myself in whatever way possible to still maintain my values, heal and help where I can, and still have a totally functional relationship, respecting every aspect of it good and bad, and somehow having it be a higher absolute sort of thing. I am so scared of not finding true love 🙄. Anyways. Thanks!🧘❤️🔥
Leo, thank you for, enentually, starting talking to the green/yellow stages (in some parts). You made me truely enjoy that opus-talk. In most of your talks you adress to the previous stages and it creates a slightly sad picture. As if nobody but simple-minded teens have been around. But the truth is that people all over the world are watching you and among them there are those who might be at your own level (the reason to watch you in this case is solidarity and the desire to recognize one's own thoughts). Thus, you don't always have to talk as a guru, sometimes you could give entertaining taks to those who already know the thing and the stuff about it which can be articulated + all the implications. I am sure, there might be more of them, than it seems. I suggest you a challenge to talk as if you were talking to yourself. When you don't need to explain anything or give a dosen of examples. Just a talk for your pleasure. Thank you
Hey Leo, this video saved me. Was stuck in nihilistic limbo for a while without really realizing, now I know where to go. Thanks for firing the beacon once again.
Thank you for this. I was a bit stuck here and what you say resonates with other people I have recently been listening to like Jim Newman, who you may be familiar with. Non duality is Nihilism in the most powerful sense and liberating in the most profound way.
Thanks for this episode I finally stopped blaming and shaming myself for not knowing. I started embrasing that I don't know and I felt some kind of freedom with it
Great video, thanks! I found this very valuable for my self actualization process.🙂 Btw, I'm eagerly waiting for your promised episodes: "What is Love? Part 3" and "Understanding relativism. Part 2" 😁
Leo there is yet another increase in succinctness and clarity with this video and also in addressing potential objections with more robustness too. And also pointing out double-standards and hypocrisy clearly yet in a more accessible and less provocative manner (at least, as far as you can be expected to do 😂). Thanks for all your hard work!
Love is nothing and "Love Is its own reward": that's the deepest sense of Life, such an incredible miracle, like this wonderful video shows us, once again. But, in the meantime, these words underline the incredible strenght of survivol...such a powerful thing filling all our lives, very often in a disfunctional way..it's a complex game, which we should be aware of as much as possibile, if we want to live a really satisfying life. F.
Actualized,.org is coming full circle with the metaphysical truths and the process of actualization finally merging together. Great episode Leo. Love Ya
= ALL BEST COMMENTS = "God is dead"~Nietzsche Later: "Nietzsche is dead" ~God = I love that Leo posts quotes from all kinds of different ideologies, It's really hitting home with me that there's a morsel of truth to be found within any way of thought. :) = Leo: “No etertal life exists. Because everything finite dies. The only thing that doesn’t die is infinite. But infinite itself contains death.” = I cannot praise Leo enough for his orignality to deconstruct such deep topics. Afterall " Right Questions lead to Right answers " and "Wrong questions lead to Wrong answers" and you man are on the right path = My philosophy teacher said he was in argument with a nihilist. The nihilist states that life is meaningless. To which he wanted to reply with “is that statement meaningful to you?” = Paradoxically, (or perhaps not) this has been for me one of Leo's most life-affirming episodes. It is pure gold and goes much deeper than overcoming the sense of despair that comes with discovering that life is inherently without meaning, it transforms it into the ultimate Meaning. Thank you for this amazing video, Leo. = 37:45, 1:20:10 2:05:50 - building your epistemology from scratch by questioning everything 2:08:30 - the steel-man/straw-man thing 2:06:00 - signs that a perspective is higher or lower. 1:29:36 - The Highest Hero's journey. 1:31:15 - The Belly of the Whale 1:21:20 - The 'wiping the slate clean' effect. 1:22:15 - 1:26:53 - Description of Uber-mensch 1:34:00 - Going through nihilism makes you stronger, it's healthy 1:50:30 - The point about learning to not rationalize your preferences in terms of objective truths and normative statements. = "If I do nothing something will still happen." Arjuna realized. = Journey by Mary Oliver One day you finally knew what you had to do, and began, though the voices around you kept shouting their bad advice -- thought the whole house began to tremble and you felt the old tug at your ankles. "Mend my life!" each voice cried. But you didn't stop. You knew what you had to do, though the wind pried with its stiff fingers at the very foundations, though their melancholy was terrible. It was already late enough, and a wild night, and the road full of fallen branches and stones. But little by little, as you left their voices behind, the stars began to burn through the sheets of clouds, and there was a new voice which you slowly recognized as your own, that kept you company as you strode deeper and deeper into the world, determined to do the only thing you could do -- determined to save the only life you could save.
Thank you Leo. Man, I drank from this cup of love so slowly and wholesomely. It got me so emotional as I'm really there trying to allievaite my victim consciousness with abundance consciousness and how to really appreciate God in everything, Next is, "how to fall in love with life." I hope I can embody these principles
Wow, thank you Leo! This is exactly what I needed! I've been stuck in the ocean of aperspectival madness for years and couldn't see a way out. This video literally changed my life ❤️
Hey Leo, I just have a suggestion for you. Please read the Indian scriptures of spirituality the Vedanta philosophy, Sankhya philosophy, Karma yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Raja Yoga, Jnana Yoga, Bhagvad Gita, literally there are thousands such. These really contain advance spirituality and your deep explanation of these can really be a gift to the world. Hope you read this:-)
Leo, you forgot that jung and freud also happened during those years breaking down what we thought we knew about the human behaviour. They introduced the concept of the subconscious mind, claiming it's the main force behind our behaviour which contradicted positivism that claimed that we were predictable products of our environment.
I thought I was going to sleep. Paradoxically, I'll stay 150 min more around with a cup of time... Wow, very much appreciated episode!! Thank you so much, Leo, for articulating your way into this. - 01:38:50 / 01:52:21
Ok I take back my last two comments. You redeemed yourself at 1:56:00. The issue of whether to be passive and just ride the waves versus imposing my will on the world is an issue I have been wrestling with lately.
Im 16 rn and im in this phase i love it thank u so much and im looking fotward to my life and how i will chose to live it theres alot to figure out on the way
Fantastic episode Leo. I sat nodding my head for pretty much the whole 2hrs and 20 minutes... Like I was talking to myself through you. Thanks brother.
My philosophy teacher said he was in argument with a nihilist. The nihilist states that life is meaningless. To which he wanted to reply with “is that statement meaningful to you?”
Meaninglessness is identical to total Freedom. By seeing no meaning in this or that, God is Free to be Free in total Meaninglessness, where play and creativity comes in as well. Nihilisim is a distorted perception. Meaninglessness is not bad, it's Total Freedom.
Perfect timing for me because now I AM at the stage after being born a Christian, living alongside Muslims, having Hindu friends, 3 years of meditation, and being open-minded, I am at a point of asking, "who the hell is right? I mean, do humans even know what they are talking about? If all humans are just humans, then how can one claim to know the absolute truth?" It CAN create a disillusioned mind frame. To think that for me it all started with one question. "If my Christian God is LOVE, then how can it be that my Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist friends who are good people will be sent to a fiery hell to burn for eternity just for not choosing Jesus?" Asking this question got me in trouble, so instead of asking my fellow Christians, I went searching for God Himself. As I was searching in the physical world, I found that I had to look within. When I closed my eyes and searched within, there I found peace. Lately I have been getting distracted, doubting myself, and losing my peace. Thank you for the reminder Leo.
@@nottelling4876 Your opinion... And you are entitled to it... But so you know, in another part of the world, they believe that you are the evil one, and that you are the one who will burn in hell .. so, my question is... Who among you is right? I guess we will find out on the other side.
Nietzsche characterized nihilism as emptying the world and especially human existence of meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. This observation stems in part from Nietzsche's perspectivism, or his notion that "knowledge" is always by someone of some thing: it is always bound by perspective, and it is never mere fact. Rather, there are interpretations through which we understand the world and give it meaning. Interpreting is something we can not go without; in fact, it is a condition of subjectivity. One way of interpreting the world is through morality, as one of the fundamental ways that people make sense of the world, especially in regard to their own thoughts and actions. Nietzsche distinguishes a morality that is strong or healthy, meaning that the person in question is aware that he constructs it himself, from weak morality, where the interpretation is projected on to something external.
Actually it made me realize "If there's possibilities, then fuck it, I'll build nothing" Are you gonna be happy with that? Well in a sense, fuck yeah (now that I think about it) Because I have created "nothing" if you know what I mean Thanks Leo, ever since I've started watching you, I'm having realizations every single day 🙏💙
"In the end it comes down to what do you want" Leo Gura. I had this insight after contemplating in the woods last summer - I prefer it this way where i have the insight myself then its backed up by Leo than how it normally is the other way around
This video just help getting out of the Nihilist paradigm. In the absolute sense there is no meaning to anything, but that's no reason to get depressed because that means I'm giving meaning to the world not having a meaning. In the relative sense, I get to choose meaning, even if I don't actively choose one, I'll still find meaning somewhere, since the ego needs purpose for survival. So, I get to play the game (illusion) as this character (ego), in this form, which is part of God's manifestation.
Brilliant
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Two guys deeply influenced my thinking and the way I see life in general: Leo Gura and Alan Watts! I can't be more grateful for both!!! Love you so much Leo!
Yeah Alan Watts is a puppy compared to the truth Leo is bringing into the light
@@grantrogers9270 other way around bruh
@@grantrogers9270 I definitely wouldn't compare the two. They both are brilliant in their own ways.
@@redazaki9598 Exactly. They both teach in a wonderful way.
i also recommend Teal Swan :)
I’ve been watching Leo for five years. This is the first time I’ve seen him take a drink. He is human after all.
Lol
Aliens need to drink too
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When I was younger, I studied and adopted Nietzsche’s philosophies on life and meaning. My strong commitment to the teachings helped me greatly in completing my move from Spiral Dynamics stage Blue to Orange. I remember completely despising religion, and debating my former religious friends, spending dozens of hours studying the nihilistic worldview.
After a couple of months, I started spiraling into a sort of chaotic madness, as I neurotically tried to embody the concept of the Ubermensch (Superman).
I remained in a constant struggle for a while, always beating myself up to achieve impractical goals. I was also still a teen and it became a really isolated and depressing time in my life.
Eventually, I very painfully realized that I had to let all the concepts I’d adopted go, to reconnect with the people I loved and discover the truth of life and reality, stepping into a radically different worldview that took me from Orange to Green.
For anyone who sees the limitations of religion and wants to transcend, I suggest you study Frederich Nietzsche and other philosophers like him.
Thank you so much for sharing this, helped me a ton ♥️
@@ms.x1669 That makes me really happy. Remember to love yourself!
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I feel myself right now in a similar place that you were in. I had descended into a kind of madness as well, and now I've cut myself off from most of the people I used to know.
Do you have any recommendations for Nietzsche's work on good starting places or literary pieces that were particularly helpful to you?
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@@ajp5227 Thank you!
Leo, you've been putting out some seriously good content lately and I've been watching all of it from start to finish. I appreciate these talks so much, I'm so excited to hear these. Thank you.
Yeah, it keeps getting better. Lighter even. Feel like he was going through really hard stuff in previous videos and it came out in the way he spoke, now it feels kinda like he's chilled out and just wants to share insight.
Thanks for addressing a stage most people go through on the Path. Nihilists find everything meaningless except for the idea of nihilism lol. The best way to dissolve nihilism is to not stand on any ground of extremity. Transcend (but include) both the emptiness/No Self of Buddhism and the Absolutism of Hinduism like Brahman, Atman etc
This is an extremely important episode for everyone to understand.
Yoooooo. Small world blud
Literally on every video we got one of these comments 😂
Who are you to decide what everyone needs? 😂
@@BlackandWhitecustoms Who are you to know that Hermann does not know what´s important for everyone to understand?
@@frei5615 where in my reply did I say he does not know? I just asked him to state what makes him feel his opinion is relevant for everyone as he stated. Maybe he is right or maybe he is wrong I haven't came to any conclusions yet.
37:45, 1:20:10
2:05:50 - building your epistemology from scratch by questioning everything
2:08:30 - the steel-man/straw-man thing
2:06:00 - signs that a perspective is higher or lower.
1:29:36 - The Highest Hero's journey. 1:31:15 - The Belly of the Whale
1:21:20 - The 'wiping the slate clean' effect.
1:22:15 - 1:26:53 - Description of Uber-mensch
1:34:00 - Going through nihilism makes you stronger, it's healthy
1:50:30 - The point about learning to not rationalize your preferences in terms of objective truths and normative statements.
Thank you
This is a masterpiece. The light of truth is radiating from you and you're words. Truth (we can call it 'I') can see that you are talking of the experience of Truth and not the philosophy of truth which is just thinking again.
One of the best video on the channel and most underappreciated. It deserves way more views.
“I have one major rule: Everybody is right. More specifically, everybody - including me - has some important pieces of truth, and all of those pieces need to be honored, cherished, and included in a more gracious, spacious, and compassionate embrace.”
~ Ken Wilber 🤍
Thank you Leo, for everything
Thanks Leo for all these videos your doing. I know it's work and I appreciate it 🙏. We need it in these times.
I’m definitely in a place in my life where this really resonates with me Leo. I’ve learned that being honest and genuine with people is key and finding your own purpose that’s fulfilling to you. Spreading love is the highest joy a being can have.
Seriously man I know I say this a lot and I’m sure you get this a lot but the work you’re doing here is infinitely valuable. I know you’ve said in past videos you don’t feel people really appreciate the intelligence at work here.
I feel my intelligence has grown immensely in the last 5 years listening and contemplating. And you release all this for free which is just jaw dropping. No one like you man you really are doing Gods work. So grateful I found you over a decade ago.
Thank you so much Leo :)
This video came when I needed it. It has helped me so much. Thank you!
One of the greatest gifts in this world is this free content. It is a joy to enjoy creation.
For anyone who is in fear, or in a paralysis, this poem really helped me.
Journey by Mary Oliver
One day you finally knew
what you had to do, and began,
though the voices around you
kept shouting
their bad advice --
thought the whole house began to tremble
and you felt the old tug at your ankles.
"Mend my life!"
each voice cried.
But you didn't stop.
You knew what you had to do,
though the wind pried with its stiff fingers
at the very foundations,
though their melancholy
was terrible.
It was already late
enough, and a wild night,
and the road full of fallen
branches and stones.
But little by little,
as you left their voices behind,
the stars began to burn
through the sheets of clouds,
and there was a new voice
which you slowly
recognized as your own,
that kept you company
as you strode deeper and deeper
into the world,
determined to do
the only thing you could do --
determined to save
the only life you could save.
Paradoxically, (or perhaps not) this has been for me one of Leo's most life-affirming episodes. It is pure gold and goes much deeper than overcoming the sense of despair that comes with discovering that life is inherently without meaning, it transforms it into the ultimate Meaning. Thank you for this amazing video, Leo.
Yeah what a relief to face Nihilism head on, instead of retreating from it, yet still recognizing that there is life beyond Nihilism, and it may even be an important step along the way.
the last 25 minutes were pure gold. thank you.
Amazing critique of Nihilism Leo. I always thought it was something I had to come out of rather than go through, but you’ve helped me to realise I was on the right path all along. Thank you
Man this one might be one of the most anticipated videos ever in the history of actualized.org
Killing it with the uploads leo 🤝💯❤️
I paused at 44:43 and I'm sharing with you a poem I wrote just the other day. It's called The Carthographer's Predicament. It's about Direct Experience, or lack there of, and it was also inspired by Leo's talk in the recent podcast where they brought up the expression "The map is not the territory".
I fell in love with the universe
So I started to draw her
Soon enough I got obsessed with the drawing
She was so beautiful
I couldn’t let myself draw a single misplaced line
Not only was she perfect
She was also ever-changing
So I started to learn her habits
If I were to truly capture her
I drew multiple arms
To do the work for me
Each specialized in a narrow pattern
After a while I was drawing arms that were drawing arms
That were drawing arms
And so on
I was drawing eyes to watch Her
I drew brilliant minds
That invented ways of instant drawing
Placing the canvas right on top of her
It became effortless for me
Just watching
It was great
But after a while
All these drawing hands, eyes and minds
Started to make assumptions
As they could not see her directly
Through the canvas anymore
Now, I find myself lost
In the trickery of these assumptions
In a fascinating false world
Trying to make my way back home
To her.
This reminded me of a poem I wrote at 16.
"Sometimes I feel like a showman in front of a blind audience. I tell my jokes and laugh on cue, but all the while, my face is emotionless, blue. My truth is different from yours but equal all the same. So who's to blame when the illusion cracks, and truth brings pain?"
I wrote this to reflect how I felt in society. I was so different fitting in became my main mode of survival. As you can imagine it was a very difficult phase. Though I feel much more equipped to handle socialism now. I worked hard to fit in with as many different groups as possible. That helped me become quite the social butterfly.
It‘s Beautiful. Thank you for that.!
@@traelstechnologytmalsantua3471 really good!
actually we need such enlightenment every day, thanks Leo and your effort very deeply appreciated
I love that Leo posts quotes from all kinds of different ideologies, It's really hitting home with me that there's a morsel of truth to be found within any way of thought. :)
Transcending Nihilsim with the help of Psychedelics was one of the most important transformations in my life ❤️🙏🏽
I adore this person, Leo is a person who can be my best adviser every moment i need it! Only one thing that I regret about myself after listening to him, is that I feel like I don't dedicate much more time to explore myself and the world deeply and fundamentally, you make me wanna work harder to be better and change environment around me for the better as well! Thank you for sharing every single video, listening and watching to you more than 3 years already! ❣ I love you!
Yes! Leo has a big heart most of all. That is why his name suits him, the heart of a lion.
The main spiritual hurdle for myself has been coming to terms with the emptiness of all things. And your right man it takes a decade or two to fully grasp. Grasp it you try…. amidst a spiritual crisis in which the ego is hanging on for dear life, pulling every ingenuous trick out of the god damn hat. Not to mention it can shape shift and take on the form of your highest self for sustained periods of time. The layers are so deep it’s a miracle at all you are ever able to come out the other end. BUT I HAVE ARRIVED LEO ❤️ And thanks to you Leo. I’m sorry brother I’ve been a harsh critic at times. I thought I was the chosen one. TURNS OUT WE ARE ALL THE CHOSEN ONE.
Putting out less videos has allowed me the opportunity to go back and listen to some of these older videos. This one is a classic. ❤️it
Regardless of whether you agree or not with Leo on everything, this video really sums up everything a Nihilist must consider. One of the best actualized videos.
That was so good! Man, I love your legos! Im just really happy that I'm witnessing your existence as this beautiful, powerful force. Incredible.
Thanks for devoting your time to give us these EPIC videos!
Your process of breaking down meaning and definition in language is very energetic. I appreciate that. I remember an old video of yours where you explain your whole process of looking up definitions for words and it was really resonant material for me. Thanks for bringing the high quality content once again.
I cannot praise Leo enough for his orignality to deconstruct such deep topics. 👍 Afterall " Right Questions lead to Right answers " and "Wrong questions lead to Wrong answers" and you man are on the right path🙏
Hello. The last third of the video really spoke to me. The past two months after reading the Jed Mckenna trilogy really threw my life into a whirlwind to the point I feel I've been in and out of "psychosis." I feel like outside sources are bringing me down and I'm tryong to be balanced and thinking well if they are, I'm here to heal, but I don't want to be used in any selfish way. I keep feeling like I'm being used sexually in some metaphysical way, and one of if not the strongest desire of mine is to have a totally monogamous relationship where I can go into and out of love and infinity together. So I had a relapse and then just cold turkey quit every addiction including subtle ones, the hardest being jerking and porn and I've been doing semen retention. I am really welcoming to the idea of reiki and kundalini awakening, but I also don't want to get lost in it for years, I want to just use it practically. I feel like I'm being pulled in multiple directions from invisible sources and I had to go through my mind and imagine how I would share myself without being used or abused for selfish purposed, and I imagined how each chakra could be used selfishly and selflessly. And the thing I've been constantly saying in my head is *No, I will heal myself and others and help in my own way without being bogged down by expectations unless a higher intelligence is bringing me to said place for some reason I don't understand yet.* So my ideas for healijg in my own way from root to crown is groundedness, creativity, strength, non-addictive love, the power of my voice, my insights and wisdom, and I guess surrender/cosmic wisdom. When you said at the ens coming back with the holy grail and helping in my own way, that was really the nudge I needed to feel that I was on the right track and not being selfish. The thinf I'm struggling with most is I worry about leaving people behind around me, so I'm trying to balance slowing my practice down while also not stalling, and I feel that this has put me under immense emotional/psychological strain/stress, which moved me to a place of seeing that going for walks is like absolutely necessary lol. But the thing I desire most is a true, deep, passionate, loving, monogamous relationship and I'm having the hardest time deconstructing that desire for a relationship and seeing it as just a belief and I'm trying so hard to hold true to it ans change myself in whatever way possible to still maintain my values, heal and help where I can, and still have a totally functional relationship, respecting every aspect of it good and bad, and somehow having it be a higher absolute sort of thing. I am so scared of not finding true love 🙄. Anyways. Thanks!🧘❤️🔥
Ah yeah.... the Jed McKenna effect :D
Leo, thank you for, enentually, starting talking to the green/yellow stages (in some parts). You made me truely enjoy that opus-talk. In most of your talks you adress to the previous stages and it creates a slightly sad picture. As if nobody but simple-minded teens have been around. But the truth is that people all over the world are watching you and among them there are those who might be at your own level (the reason to watch you in this case is solidarity and the desire to recognize one's own thoughts). Thus, you don't always have to talk as a guru, sometimes you could give entertaining taks to those who already know the thing and the stuff about it which can be articulated + all the implications. I am sure, there might be more of them, than it seems. I suggest you a challenge to talk as if you were talking to yourself. When you don't need to explain anything or give a dosen of examples. Just a talk for your pleasure. Thank you
Hey Leo, this video saved me. Was stuck in nihilistic limbo for a while without really realizing, now I know where to go. Thanks for firing the beacon once again.
Nice!
Leo you are the best guru ever
Whatttt???
Thank you for this. I was a bit stuck here and what you say resonates with other people I have recently been listening to like Jim Newman, who you may be familiar with. Non duality is Nihilism in the most powerful sense and liberating in the most profound way.
Thanks for this episode I finally stopped blaming and shaming myself for not knowing. I started embrasing that I don't know and I felt some kind of freedom with it
"God is dead"~Nietzsche
Later:
"Nietzsche is dead" ~God
anyone who ever read Nietzsche knows that that's not what he meant btw.
you're taking things out of context and don't quote the whole thing.
Nothing is dead - God
😁😆😂 hilarious!!
@@Ytmusicplaylistperfect everything is dead
Haha 🤣
Great video, thanks! I found this very valuable for my self actualization process.🙂
Btw, I'm eagerly waiting for your promised episodes: "What is Love? Part 3" and "Understanding relativism. Part 2" 😁
Leo there is yet another increase in succinctness and clarity with this video and also in addressing potential objections with more robustness too. And also pointing out double-standards and hypocrisy clearly yet in a more accessible and less provocative manner (at least, as far as you can be expected to do 😂).
Thanks for all your hard work!
Another video!?? We are so blessed. Thankyou leo!!!!! Forever grateful for your content.
Love is nothing and "Love Is its own reward": that's the deepest sense of Life, such an incredible miracle, like this wonderful video shows us, once again. But, in the meantime, these words underline the incredible strenght of survivol...such a powerful thing filling all our lives, very often in a disfunctional way..it's a complex game, which we should be aware of as much as possibile, if we want to live a really satisfying life. F.
Actualized,.org is coming full circle with the metaphysical truths and the process of actualization finally merging together. Great episode Leo. Love Ya
Leo: “No etertal life exists. Because everything finite dies. The only thing that doesn’t die is infinite. But infinite itself contains death.”
Fav guy on TH-cam period
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"God is dead"~Nietzsche
Later:
"Nietzsche is dead" ~God
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I love that Leo posts quotes from all kinds of different ideologies, It's really hitting home with me that there's a morsel of truth to be found within any way of thought. :)
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Leo: “No etertal life exists. Because everything finite dies. The only thing that doesn’t die is infinite. But infinite itself contains death.”
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I cannot praise Leo enough for his orignality to deconstruct such deep topics. Afterall " Right Questions lead to Right answers " and "Wrong questions lead to Wrong answers" and you man are on the right path
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My philosophy teacher said he was in argument with a nihilist. The nihilist states that life is meaningless. To which he wanted to reply with “is that statement meaningful to you?”
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Paradoxically, (or perhaps not) this has been for me one of Leo's most life-affirming episodes. It is pure gold and goes much deeper than overcoming the sense of despair that comes with discovering that life is inherently without meaning, it transforms it into the ultimate Meaning. Thank you for this amazing video, Leo.
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37:45, 1:20:10
2:05:50 - building your epistemology from scratch by questioning everything
2:08:30 - the steel-man/straw-man thing
2:06:00 - signs that a perspective is higher or lower.
1:29:36 - The Highest Hero's journey. 1:31:15 - The Belly of the Whale
1:21:20 - The 'wiping the slate clean' effect.
1:22:15 - 1:26:53 - Description of Uber-mensch
1:34:00 - Going through nihilism makes you stronger, it's healthy
1:50:30 - The point about learning to not rationalize your preferences in terms of objective truths and normative statements.
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"If I do nothing something will still happen." Arjuna realized.
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Journey by Mary Oliver
One day you finally knew
what you had to do, and began,
though the voices around you
kept shouting
their bad advice --
thought the whole house began to tremble
and you felt the old tug at your ankles.
"Mend my life!"
each voice cried.
But you didn't stop.
You knew what you had to do,
though the wind pried with its stiff fingers
at the very foundations,
though their melancholy
was terrible.
It was already late
enough, and a wild night,
and the road full of fallen
branches and stones.
But little by little,
as you left their voices behind,
the stars began to burn
through the sheets of clouds,
and there was a new voice
which you slowly
recognized as your own,
that kept you company
as you strode deeper and deeper
into the world,
determined to do
the only thing you could do --
determined to save
the only life you could save.
I have my linear algebra exams next week. Such a great timing Leo :D
Thank you Leo. Man, I drank from this cup of love so slowly and wholesomely.
It got me so emotional as I'm really there trying to allievaite my victim consciousness with abundance consciousness and how to really appreciate God in everything,
Next is, "how to fall in love with life." I hope I can embody these principles
Wow, thank you Leo! This is exactly what I needed! I've been stuck in the ocean of aperspectival madness for years and couldn't see a way out. This video literally changed my life ❤️
The lego analogy was on point !
Thank you Leo for free sharing and delving into another great topic. I never thought about the positive side of niilism.
Such an awesome video Big L.
What? A second video of the week! I'm confused!
Hey Leo, I just have a suggestion for you. Please read the Indian scriptures of spirituality the Vedanta philosophy, Sankhya philosophy, Karma yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Raja Yoga, Jnana Yoga, Bhagvad Gita, literally there are thousands such. These really contain advance spirituality and your deep explanation of these can really be a gift to the world. Hope you read this:-)
Really great indepth analysis.
Leo, you forgot that jung and freud also happened during those years breaking down what we thought we knew about the human behaviour. They introduced the concept of the subconscious mind, claiming it's the main force behind our behaviour which contradicted positivism that claimed that we were predictable products of our environment.
The quality of the comments section has improved a lot in the past few years and I love to judge an influencer by their following 👌
"we know alot less about physics then we really do" - never a words more wiser spoken
I feel like you would have to be a physicist to have weight if you talk about modern physics
Thank you Leo!! Good stuff as usual!✨🌟✨
I thought I was going to sleep. Paradoxically, I'll stay 150 min more around with a cup of time...
Wow, very much appreciated episode!! Thank you so much, Leo, for articulating your way into this.
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01:38:50 / 01:52:21
Another one on Solipsism, please ☯️🙏🏼
Yup this is Gold, thanks for sharing
this episode is just incredible
Been waiting for this video for many years so thanks for that! 👏🏼🙏🏽
Ok I take back my last two comments. You redeemed yourself at 1:56:00. The issue of whether to be passive and just ride the waves versus imposing my will on the world is an issue I have been wrestling with lately.
Love so much that Leo warns us not to become what we say that we hate.
Beautiful video ! Thank you!
The absolute truth… Excellent👍❤️
So good to see you! You started my journey. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this. I was thinking about this topic
Love from chile 🇨🇱, love your videos
Jesus Leo. Your last 3 videos did it. Now I’m just sitting here like a fool with no one to blame but myself. Ta da! Thanks for helping me remember
This is really beautiful and profound! Leo was just on fire in this one.
One of my epiphanies while digging deeper into the literature about life is that I try to ask myself the question is “What would Love do?
Im 16 rn and im in this phase i love it thank u so much and im looking fotward to my life and how i will chose to live it theres alot to figure out on the way
Fantastic episode Leo. I sat nodding my head for pretty much the whole 2hrs and 20 minutes... Like I was talking to myself through you. Thanks brother.
Well spoken Leo, well spoken
This was much needed in the situation that I'm in. Thanks Leo!
Yes! Thank you for accurately representing Nietzsche!
Thanks man for putting up these videos on such deep topics👍 one of its kind in TH-cam 👍👍❤️
Thank you again for sharing such valuable information. 80 and still l learning and growing. You are light in a chaotic world.
In all honesty though I think this is one of your best works Leo, thank you.
My philosophy teacher said he was in argument with a nihilist. The nihilist states that life is meaningless. To which he wanted to reply with “is that statement meaningful to you?”
Nihili is ignorance
@Arid Sohan your mom is just words play
@@magicalchemicaldaddy3919 Ignorance is bliss
@@itsAuffy pinnacle of comedy right there… 🤡
Meaninglessness is identical to total Freedom. By seeing no meaning in this or that, God is Free to be Free in total Meaninglessness, where play and creativity comes in as well. Nihilisim is a distorted perception. Meaninglessness is not bad, it's Total Freedom.
I fucking love you Leo ! Where have you been all my life !??!
Omg, I love this video.
I too am extraordinarily humble
This video came at the perfect time. I have been filled with the "existential void" Frankl.
Thanks for keeping the uploads coming Leo!
Great episode, so good
Man I’ve been in orange/green for about 3 years
So affirming to watch this video
Well done Leo 👍
Perfect timing for me because now I AM at the stage after being born a Christian, living alongside Muslims, having Hindu friends, 3 years of meditation, and being open-minded, I am at a point of asking, "who the hell is right? I mean, do humans even know what they are talking about? If all humans are just humans, then how can one claim to know the absolute truth?" It CAN create a disillusioned mind frame. To think that for me it all started with one question. "If my Christian God is LOVE, then how can it be that my Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist friends who are good people will be sent to a fiery hell to burn for eternity just for not choosing Jesus?" Asking this question got me in trouble, so instead of asking my fellow Christians, I went searching for God Himself. As I was searching in the physical world, I found that I had to look within. When I closed my eyes and searched within, there I found peace. Lately I have been getting distracted, doubting myself, and losing my peace. Thank you for the reminder Leo.
Well I mean he’s still love and they still will burn in lake of fire no contradiction
@@nottelling4876 Your opinion... And you are entitled to it... But so you know, in another part of the world, they believe that you are the evil one, and that you are the one who will burn in hell .. so, my question is... Who among you is right? I guess we will find out on the other side.
Nietzsche characterized nihilism as emptying the world and especially human existence of meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. This observation stems in part from Nietzsche's perspectivism, or his notion that "knowledge" is always by someone of some thing: it is always bound by perspective, and it is never mere fact. Rather, there are interpretations through which we understand the world and give it meaning. Interpreting is something we can not go without; in fact, it is a condition of subjectivity. One way of interpreting the world is through morality, as one of the fundamental ways that people make sense of the world, especially in regard to their own thoughts and actions. Nietzsche distinguishes a morality that is strong or healthy, meaning that the person in question is aware that he constructs it himself, from weak morality, where the interpretation is projected on to something external.
Back to Back videos. I'm becoming restless.
It would be nice if you would do a short for every video that you uploaded on this channel.
Check out his channel Actualized cuts
No fucking way! Leo don't burn yourself out but I love it 😜
You're prepared me so well yeah thank you
Actually it made me realize
"If there's possibilities, then fuck it, I'll build nothing"
Are you gonna be happy with that?
Well in a sense, fuck yeah (now that I think about it)
Because I have created "nothing" if you know what I mean
Thanks Leo, ever since I've started watching you, I'm having realizations every single day 🙏💙
"In the end it comes down to what do you want" Leo Gura.
I had this insight after contemplating in the woods last summer - I prefer it this way where i have the insight myself then its backed up by Leo than how it normally is the other way around
I'd love to see a video about Dostoevsky
This is a golden content, thank you Leo