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You should look into LaMia Flight 2933 that crashed in Medellin with a Brazilian football team aboard in 2016. An incredible tale of corruption, incompetence, and complete disregard for flight rules.
20:36 LOL WHAT THE FREAK? HAHAHA I know airlines are saving money, but they could have offered you a better ride....! Haha Precious!! I almost spilled my coffee on the keyboard! What a good laugh!
I gotta say, this is the best damn aviation channel on TH-cam. No exploitation or sensationalism; no clickbait; no blame game. Precise, detailed accounts delivered with care and compassion. Bloody brilliant!
covenant that I establish between me to see; one among us knows There is unfaithfulness toward me, they will dwell securely on their land, with no one to make them afraid.After they have been humiliated for all their unfaithfulness toward me My people will dwell in a peaceful abiding place, Although we live in a wicked world, why can we be sure that Jehovah will protect his people? They will dwell on it in security and build houses and plant vineyards, and they will dwell in security when I execute judgment on all those around them who treat them with scorn; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah their God.
It's always refreshing to hear about an incident that doesn't result in disaster. Bravo to the pilots for their quick corrections once they realised that they were off course before colliding with the hotel
@NHL 2K10 Chances of being killed in a plane .. one in 11 million. Chances of being killed in a car .. one in 5 thousand. Driving is dangerous and drivers are a menace to society?
As a retired pilot, and have not been flying for a long time, this particular episode reminded me of a similar incident that I faced a long time ago. I have since learned to double check my initial perception before going to the second phase. Your very detail description would serve well many a younger gerneration of pilots, a cautionary lesson that I did have the benefit to learn. Good Job, Mentor Pilot.
Seems a common problem - the brain tries to confirm what it expects to see from what is out there - then gets it wrong. Same thing with Air NZ slamming a DC10 into Mt Erebus in 1979 - while on a sight seeing trip over Antarctica - whilst doing the sightseeing at 2000 feet altitude. 300 paid the price for that mistake
@@nancydavis4618It depends on a few factors , like speed and the flight height too. Short haul flights often don't climb as high, as the fuel savings for flying high can be eaten up by the fuel required to climb.
The sudden juxtaposition 20:36 had me absolutely rolling, that was hilarious. Its now headcannon that MentorPilot always drives to work on that thing and rolls right into the flightdeck with the same deadpan look.
I am feeling the exact same thing in here I have worked ramp on this exact aircraft at YXX Fascinating to think the aircraft I am loading bags into was 39 feet from water INSANEEEE
This is why I that there should be 'importance' departure and approach cones regarding the both the data and voice recorders so that they do not record over themselves at critical points during the flight, and or if something happens that needs to be kept for reference. My idea was always, to have a secondary tape running in parallel that would be activated in the event of an error, or a justification of some sort in order to preserve information in cases such as this. There are literally thousands of instances where the voice recorder and data recorded have been overwritten and information is lost that could be deemed as important.
Actually, we knew this beforehand. An accident/disaster would have been in the news prominently, and there isn't one on this airport, except for the spectacular landings over the called beach.
@@mtmadigan82 Have a look at the hotel on Google Maps now. The roof is pretty much exactly the same grey-green shade the clouds were in the video. It'd be basically invisible if this happened again, unlike the white roof which showed up in the rain and looked exactly like a runway.
I really love about this series that you don't only cover the bad accidents, but also stories like this, which could have turned out way worse but didn't. It's always reassuring to see how every of those (even "minor") incidents eventually contributes to make the aviation industry safer for everyone by not focussing on blaming one single person but by addressing shortcomings of every player - the pilots, the airlines, ATC and the aircraft manufacturers, and recommending improvements from which everyone can benefit in the future. Keep up the great work!
Back in 1990 I was a FO on the DC-10 and we had layovers in St Maarten and we stayed in the same Maho Beach hotel. I was in the room and something flashed by the window about 200 yards away and then I heard a loud splash. From the room I couldn't see what hit the water but a few min later I went to a location where I could see the entire bay from the Hotel and a single engine Piper was in the water nose down and sinking. Four people were in the water by the aircraft and all survived the ditching. A week later on another layover I bought my snorkel gear and dove on the wreck in about 15' of water.
I love to see pilots watch these. There are so many recurring patterns to learn from (for instance regarding go-arounds in marginal conditions). Would be fabulous to adopt these videos as some form of paid recurring theoretical training for pilots.
I really loved that clip of you in your pilot's uniform on a children's toy vehicle from 20:36 onward, as it made me laugh. Thank you for injecting an appropriate piece of humor into an otherwise very serious presentation. That juxtaposition of a very humorous clip with the very serious narration/presentation is just wonderful. Thank you for sharing these great analysis' with us (the public at large).
Mmm. They didn't save the 2 main systems which would have had more information. Events like this should be auto saved, of legally required to be manually saved. For education and safety improvement.
And sounds like they didn't fire/punish the pilots either. While this was pilot error. When you break it all down it's understandable how this happened. And it wasn't due to outright negligence.
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now actually, the Quick Access Recorder (which is intended for maintenance) provides more info than the Flight Data Recorder (which is one of the two black boxes). What was missing was only the Cockpit Voice Recorder (the other of the black boxes). Not saying that isn't bad in itself, but luckily the investigators were not devoid of data. Edit: But yes, this stuff should be preserved automatically. They're actually working on making a system so that all in-flight data is automatically transmitted via satellite uplink continuously during flight. Don't know how far they are with that yet, though.
I love that you cover surviving incidents not just the Disasters. Thank you, I am not a Pilot, only had a frw lessons but find your detailed explanations broken down so we can really understand. You are a great teacher!!
These accidents, or near accidents, are really interesting, but what is fascinating is your description of the procedures behind all these flights. Really makes one respect the pilots and cabin crew, and the people on the ground.
I always love your stories. Detailed, easy language and interesting. Not to mention the introduction that keeps you glued and eager to know what is about to happen. Who else is with me?
Excellent video! I’ve been following Petter for years, and this is one of my favorite clips. I enjoy a lot the detailed analysis of “apparently minor” incidents: it makes you understand that EVERYTHING is important and there’s a lot to be learnt even if the occurrence is not a full-blown disaster. Good psychological explanation - and BTW congrats for the quality of the virtual rendering: massive improvements, to an extent to which it starts to be difficult to understand if it’s computer generated or actual video footage
WOW! You and your team are getting really good at the graphics.. the rain, the pilots in the cockpit .. just makes for a great presentation!! Bravo !!!
I love how you always manage to discuss things that are applicable to us, as civilians, such as the Perception>Comprehension>Prediction framework. Knowing how we are wired to process our surroundings can help us avoid common errors!
Absolutely! 👍 I'm a big fan of disaster & near miss analysis content of various kinds, but not from any kind of morbid curiosity. To me, they're a super-valuable tool for all of us (regardless of life or work contexts) in encouraging us to keep our risk assessment awareness sharp, frequently check our biases, and advocate for safety and accountability wherever that is needed?
Your video's have a non-agressive/threatening way of informing/educating the viewer WITHOUT insulting their intelligence. This is a perfect match, you are- if not a pilot- a born educater! And I for one am a proud student of yours😎 Thanks for your wonderfull content!
I’ve been on that beach by the runway many times. It’s a surreal experience. When planes take off , people literally line up on the chain link fence to get blown back by the engine thrusts during take off. There has been several injuries because of people doing this.
I came across this amazing channel about 4 months ago and have binge watched every episode to date. As an ATPL rated helicopter pilot here in Trinidad in the Caribbean with over 13,000 hrs ,I love to read and research accident and incident reports. Mentour Pilot takes this to the next level and makes it very easy to follow even for the non aviation people whom I'm sure he has a lot of subscribers. Keep up the amazing work!!
I am the same - not an aviator but fascinated by hearing all the details about accidents and incidents, and the safety recommendations that come about from them. Love Mentour Pilot channel!
Do also check out the sister channel, presented by the same guy. There's Mentor Pilot, that deals with well reached historic events And there's Mentor Now! where he responds to recent aviation news, often before they're have been proper investigations is anything went wrong. I find them both fascinating.
As a Canadian, I recognized that Westjet Disney Plane right away from the thumbnail. And as someone who flew Westjet, from YYZ to SXM, I'm glad this happened before I was on that flight lol! Also, when the airplanes take off from SXM, you can hear the planes turn before the mountains (depending on which way they take off of course) and how much force they're using to lift that plane, and it's SO loud. Sint Marteen/Saint Martin is beautiful and it was a great trip!
Mentour team, by far my favorite aviation channel out there, your attention to detail and how well everything is put together to create these wonderful and informative videos is awesome!
Yes, the human factors engineering aspects of flying, driving--all mechanical transport operations are critical to safe transportation.I am an Ergonomics Engineer and Human Factors Engineer.
I've stayed right there at the Sonesta Maho twice. It's an amazing location for aviation enthusiasts to watch planes come and go. Nothing like standing a couple hundred feet behind a 747 as it powers up for take off.
I'm so used to my own tropical island's airport having Cat II ILS approach (Mauritius) that I was very surprised to learn this popular destination only has VOR and RNAV! I'm glad this flight was ultimately okay - the experience of the pilots is sure to have played a part in their ability to recover from the situation.
There is a public road between the start of the runway and the sea which probably can’t be re-routed hence cannot build platforms to cater to an ILS approach. Guess the experts can confirm or debunk this.
I have started showing your videos to my 9 year old Son now and he is so excited that he wants to become a pilot when he grows up. Thanks for making such amazing and informative videos.
A crash you might want to visit is the crash of Model 299 on October 30 in 1935. This was a B-17 prototype and in the aftermath it was decided that aircraft had become too complex to operate solely of memory. Thus was checklists introduced.
Thanks so much for this.I do love a happy ending! The psychology behind these kind of “errors” is so interesting. As a nervous flyer who is nonetheless fascinated by aviation ( my father was an RAF pilot) I take great comfort in knowing just how skilful pilots are and how many safety features there are on aircraft. I’m on a short flight across Europe in a couple of weeks and this has made me feel better about it.
Thank you so much for these videos, sir. I'm a trucker by trade, not a pilot, but these videos are always interesting to me. I'm always a bit nervous when boarding aircraft or ships, and I'm making plans to visit the UK. While one might think watching videos on incidents and accidents would be a bad idea for a nervous flyer, I like watching yours because you explain the nuances of the situations, and what lessons the industry has learned to be safer which is actually helping me with the idea of flying over the Atlantic. Thanks again!
Indeed, these are good at showing how multiple things have to go wrong in just the right (wrong?) order for a crash to happen. I've never been a very nervous flier myself, but I'm definitely even _less_ nervous now! And it's also heartening to see incidents that _didn't_ end in a crash -- and what was learned to make a future incident even less likely.
I like that you explain incidents like this one in detail instead of just covering the most well-known accidents. I actually learn a lot about incidents I didn't know before in your videos. Keep up the work, thank you!
Been watching you're content for a while now. I really enjoy airplane stuff and as a child tried anything in an attempt to fly. I'm not really an aviation geek, but really enjoyed this video! Pretty cool to see the airline making safety recommendations. The safety environment around aviation is really cool and quite frankly should be a role model in many other industries!
Hi Peter, I always enjoy watching your vids as I find nobody better at explaining than you. It's the perfect mix of content and how you deliver it. I don't know anyone who can do better. All the best to you, your channel and your family!
The fact that this was the Frozen themed plane Even before I was "into" commercial aviation whenever I was at Pearson I always would walk around trying to spot the two Disney themed planes at the gates.
Since 2009 there have not been any major lethal accidents involving a reputable commercial airline (that is from the US, Canada, Australia, western Europe, Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea or Japan).
I use Mentour's thought process/learning process/questioning of what I know every time I step into a little Cessna 172. Really keeps you humble to think of highly experienced pilots falling to human-susceptible error and thinking things through in this way makes me safer (I hope).
Wow Petter, great description as usual, some years since I retired from flying these fabulous machines, and it sure brought back lots of memories. Very nearly all the holes lined up in the cheese- that was just far too close for comfort. They really got sucked in such that they made really bad errors. There’s a certain Indonesian airline that have a great record in stretching the limits on “so called” visual approaches to the extent of actually landing in the water. I’m sure you’ll know who I’m talking about. I don’t think I could have ever done the same- definitely would have called unstable approach I believe…. I even did exactly that as a new FO on the 747 (having come from the 767) when landing at another island strip, landing in heavy rain at night in about 1991 - actually to the point of yelling “You must listen, we’re low” at the very experienced captain. I don’t think it would have ended very well if I’d been intimidated by him and said little or nothing.
There was a similar incident at Dublin Airport some years ago, when the ATC officer realised that an aircraft on final approach had mistaken the vertical line of lighted windows on a nearby hotel for the actual runway lights.
@@skayt35 The problem is you can't really regulate how bright people will illuminate inside their living spaces, hotel rooms or businesses, and runways light can only be so bright I think...
Talk about the perfect storm (no pun intended) of variables that build up to create a situation like this, like the hotels roof shape and orientation that made it similar to the runway. Really highlights the importance of procedures and required rules for specific airports during different phases of the flight.
LOVE THIS CHANNEL!! Nobody explains things quite like you. I'm thinking seriously about getting my pilot's license, and I pay such close attention, often rewinding a bit to make sure I understand what your explaining. I've bounced the idea around for a while, but your channel really has helped me solidify my decision. Thanks for all the work you put into this. It's made a real difference in my life, and the plans I have for the future. 🛫
I love the Mix of incidents that everybody knows about and less known near misses that show the incredible airmanship of truly remarkable pilots. Thank you, Petter and team.
Your editing today vs 2 years ago has gotten soo much better! are you outsourcing this, or do you work hard on each video yourself? I LOVE YOUR SHOWS KEEP IT UP!
You explain aviation so well I'm starting to believe I can fly . The work you do is so good, you're bringing aviation into the mainstream. One humble suggestion if you're looking into expanding your content repertoire is to share with us interesting developments in aviation history from your perspective that have had profound impact on the industry. Again, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
I was kinda expecting recommendation for the hotel to repaint the roof at the end😄. Such interesting story and glad pilots managed to correct the situation safely. I've been watching your videos since last summer and it' always joy to see the new upload. Thanks!
White roof makes a lot of sense for the hotel because they have to cool the building a lot and having white roof reduces the heat input. Adding two red flashing lights would make a lot more sense - probably cheaper to implement and better safety during poor weather.
@@MikkoRantalainen they could add a black angled wall to block off the last section so it looks different and improves cooling. Or dazzle camo or similar to change its shape
Fascinating how little is needed to create a possible desaster scenario! And how important sharp pilots are to avoid it last second! Thank you for these detailed analyses, perfectly presented!
I’m fully convinced this is one of the most impressive channels on the internet. A perfect example of the quality that comes from someone who takes pride in their work / content. A pilot’s attention to detail and professional excellence applied to a TH-cam channel. Only been watching for a week, but I’m a huge fan.
I watched the few short YT videos over this approach. Fascinating that I could follow every move of the pilots - exactly like you explained. In the video made by a passenger you can even hear how the engines are spooling up first to 75% than shortly after to full go around trust. Thanks for the absolutely fantastic explanation again🙂
Excellent job! This video touches several very important subjects that are still hiding from view for many pilots accustomed to the "routine". Thanks so much for your presentation.
Aside from being an excellent pilot (I presume), you are an amazing narrator. I am a medical professional, but I have recently been absorbed with your videos. Impressive narration.
I love your visual aids. It makes learning so much easier. I can "feel" the information and intuit it better when all potential questions are met with an attempt to demonstrate effects with visual aids. I joined your patreon to show my appreciation.
I enjoy your videos man, must be an amazing feeling being an captain walking through the airports, sharing with family, friends and strangers when asked what you do for a living… I’m a pilot! Plus your success on TH-cam. Amazing man. From Scotland 🏴
good to hear one that was more of a mishap than a close call. I'll be interested to hear your opinion on the increased number of runway incidents that are happening in the US this year, when you get to them.
I would consider this a close call. Leveling off and having to roll an airliner at only 12 m above ground is dangerous. Even more so because they had too much sink rate right before that.
You should absolutely go! We went in 2021 and loved it. We added it to our list of islands to return to. Everyone was friendly and the island as a whole is just gorgeous.
Paul, with your opinion, what IFR approaches with marginal terrain limits would be left? The bowel ROA in VA comes to mind.... EGE Colorado as well... Places who's IFR approaches have increased risks due to terrain.
Dear Captain, I know I might sound eccentric but I sincerely treasure your content and all the fantastic documentaries you put out. I have always wanted to be a pilot but I am too poor. However, my love and ambition for aviation will always remain and I feel as though your videos are fulfilling that desire. If I had money I would certainly gift it to you but as I said I am broke. Keep up the great work. Sincerely, Top G.
In 2016, I was living in a house looking over the sir Francis drake channel from Tortola British Virgin Islands. I don’t know whether you know anything about this incident, but there was a passenger aircraft less than 50 m from the sea surface with engine, screaming, trying to gain elevation during exactly the same conditions. Displaying most likely came from Charlotte Amalie airport.
I’m really impressed with the simulation from the opening-I’m very familiar with SXM and was thinking “hey that looks like St. Maarten!” -- except the visibility, which I’ve never seen so bad!
I have to say that West Jet is one of the best success stories for an airline. They actually made flying affordable for everyone in Canada forcing other airlines to lower all the prices to survive in Canada.😊
Many years ago I would bid that trip because we had a 36 hour layover at the Maho Reef Hotel there. This was back in the DC-10 days before LNAV/VNAV approaches. We would arrive at night and in low vis we only had the old dive and drive method. I often laid in bed at the hotel wondering if someone would wander off course or get confused by the lighting in the entertainment area adjacent to the airport.
Absolutely fascinating video, quite different from some others you have done but totally absorbing, good to see the airline giving advice/recommendations to the airport etc, better than excellent as always 😊
Its been awhile since i seen you on youtube i watched almost all your videos around and before the pandemic thankyou for the good flight education and advice an flying always interesting stories to learn from
A bit like flying a 747 into Hong Kong's Kai Tak Airport "in the old days"? Turn right before the mountain and after touchdown, jam on reverse thrust and brakes, so you don't skid off the end of the runway into Kowloon Bay! If you weren't the flight crew, you had time to see the people watching TV in their lounges, through the windows of the tallest apartment blocks!
I suppose there's one obvious question: did anyone contact the hotel owners to see if anything could be done to change the profile of the hotel roof to try to reduce the risk of optical illusion?
@@JimVajda82 In this case, since the hotel has so many people see it from the air, a plain white roof seems like a low-budget beginner option. A corporate logo or name of the Hotel spelled out on the roof seems like it'd both be an effective way to prevent mis-identification, and also look nice.
@@marhawkman303 it’d still look like a runway from a distance. Why not simply put the typical flashing red beacons on the top that they put on everything else?
@@marcellkovacs5452 heh, you mean blinking lights like on a runway? :D hahaahah, yeah you'd have to carefully choose light colors or having a lighting roof would make it worse.
So sad to see that the total views for this video are just above 950k in 2 months so far whereas some useless videos uploaded by some stupid daily vloggers get more than a million views in a day...this gut puts so much effort in research, analysis and animation...he deserves more...keep up the good work pilot...we need more people like you here on youtube...hats off to your dedication 👍
That's pretty common. For instance as far a boats shooting at each other before 1950, Drachinifel is THE channel. He is very knowledgeable and quite funny. Dry British wit, which makes it much more enjoyable. He's about at the same views as Mentour or take boats before 1950 that don't shoot at each other Oceanliner Designs and Big Old Boats are the premier channels. Both are of the same quality as Mentour so I recommend a watch if you like old steamships. The famous one features heavily of course but others too. The audience for this sort of stuff is just smaller. Many come to TH-cam for light entertainment and not for education. Or take current military matters, where a lot of garbage narrated by robots get millions of views while the Mentour equivalent of that field Perun, has a lot less views. But still all those channels are growing and have captured many who wouldn't have thought they would be interested in airliner operation, suboptimal battleship design, or tales from the age of steam and iron or hour long PP presentations on logistics. But there is a growing number of extremely high quality channels such as Mentour Pilot or Oceanliner Designs that even a few years ago wouldn't have been imaginable, when the best you got was some made for TV documentary with bately accurate information, dramatic music and sensationalisation beyond anything reasonable. Or biased as hell. Also I think a lot of these channels share subscribers. The type of person interested in how an inadvertent deployement of slats causes a liner to almost crash is likely to be interested in how the rudder on Titanic was steered by a compination of electrical signals and two steam engines that could be started and stopped precisely and quickly enough to steer a giant 100 ton rudder in turn holding the forces of a 46000 ton ocean liner turning (a little too slowly in some cases). And the same people are likely to want their current events analysed by an actual subject matter expert and not bobbleheads reading from a teleprompter (HI Sutton for instance and of course almighty Perun). So you'll probably enjoy those too even if the subject is different. It's just fascinating to listen to subject matter experts and something that used to be rare. If you didn't work in a field you wouldn't have access to say an airline pilot (and training instructor) explaining every nuance of aviation alongside some nice graphics and delivered 2-3 times a week at no cost, besides maybe 30 s in adds from YT and one sponsor read, which is a lot less annoying than the multi-minute TV ads that seem to get mote absurd by the day, with the product barely featuring and instead pseudo-philosophical garbage being read by a failed actor.
I've just gotten into your channel after starting to play Microsoft Flight Simulator a few weeks ago and I really have to give you credits for making your videos so "beginner friendly" and even using MSFS to visualise the entire thing. Keep it up friend!😊
Curious what your experience was installing this beast. Did you acquire the digital version or the boxed set? I have heard/seen horror stories for both
@@lonewolf5238 I've got the digital versuon on my Xbox Series S. Downloading it took like 3 days... I dont have good internet, downloading with 2-12 mbit/s at daytime and up to 25 mbit/s at night. 200GB...
I've flown WestJet many times and remember when this happened. Not quite as dramatic, but just down the road from me the approach to runway 34 at Penticton CYYF has a lot in common with this approach. Final over water (Skaha Lake), treetop height over a beach and a road, land.
My mothers parents had a farm in the direct path of an airport/airfield in Mora, Sweden, and when visiting them during the summers as a kid theres two things I remember clear as day: The yearly(?) airshows and big aircraft flying over their house at a seemingly ridicuously low altitude on a few occations (though not in relation to mentioned airshows, I dont think), so I can only imagine what this wouldve been like.
Another great one, sir! When this story was in the news, my first thought was "I hope Mentour Pilot does this one." Wish granted! Thanks, and keep up the sterling work!
For others relying on Google translate, apparently "grym" is used to mean "cool" or "awesome", as well as its original meaning of "cruel" ... kinda like "sick" in the U.S.
I was just saying (in Swedish) that he is awesome and that he makes some of the absolute best and most well produced videos on TH-cam. They are always super interesting to watch!
@@larrywest42 You are absolutely right. Thanks for clarifying! This was intended for him personally and I did not realize someone might use Google translate to read it. He certainly is not a cruel person 😂
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@ד it normally takes around 2 years for a final report to come out. The preliminary report is available.
You should look into LaMia Flight 2933 that crashed in Medellin with a Brazilian football team aboard in 2016. An incredible tale of corruption, incompetence, and complete disregard for flight rules.
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20:36 LOL WHAT THE FREAK? HAHAHA I know airlines are saving money, but they could have offered you a better ride....! Haha Precious!! I almost spilled my coffee on the keyboard! What a good laugh!
I gotta say, this is the best damn aviation channel on TH-cam. No exploitation or sensationalism; no clickbait; no blame game. Precise, detailed accounts delivered with care and compassion.
Bloody brilliant!
covenant that I establish between me
to see;
one among us knows
There is
unfaithfulness toward me, they will dwell securely on their land, with no one to make them afraid.After they have been humiliated for all their unfaithfulness toward me
My people will dwell in a peaceful abiding place,
Although we live in a wicked world, why can we be sure that Jehovah will protect his people?
They will dwell on it in security and build houses and plant vineyards, and they will dwell in security when I execute judgment on all those around them who treat them with scorn; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah their God.
Green dot aviation is great aswell
I would say a tie with green dot aviation.
@@lethe5683 greendot is good but he's not an expert. This guy is actually an experience pilot who trains others.
Ehhh tbh his titles are kinda clickbaity but they aren't straight up lying
when the airline literally takes you to your room, that's some level of service!
They may crash into your room, but they will still lose your luggage
😁
Tell that to 9/11 victims, from the airport direct to the office, if you dare.
The stairway to heaven.
We deliver you there!
😂
@@Rinishani oh grow a sense of humour.
😅😅😅
It's always refreshing to hear about an incident that doesn't result in disaster. Bravo to the pilots for their quick corrections once they realised that they were off course before colliding with the hotel
If they hadn’t recovered visibility at the moment they did this would have had an entirely different ending.
They should never have been there in the first place.
@@StrongDreamsWaitHere yes but errors happen, it's how we correct them is often the difference between a disaster and a fright.
@NHL 2K10 Chances of being killed in a plane .. one in 11 million. Chances of being killed in a car .. one in 5 thousand. Driving is dangerous and drivers are a menace to society?
My exact thoughts, especially when he said they didn't get the flight recorder.
As a retired pilot, and have not been flying for a long time, this particular episode reminded me of a similar incident that I faced a long time ago. I have since learned to double check my initial perception before going to the second phase. Your very detail description would serve well many a younger gerneration of pilots, a cautionary lesson that I did have the benefit to learn. Good Job, Mentor Pilot.
Seems a common problem - the brain tries to confirm what it expects to see from what is out there - then gets it wrong. Same thing with Air NZ slamming a DC10 into Mt Erebus in 1979 - while on a sight seeing trip over Antarctica - whilst doing the sightseeing at 2000 feet altitude. 300 paid the price for that mistake
Ok I have a question. How far away do the pilots start the descent? I am guessing about 100 miles?
@@nancydavis4618 The video mentions 100 nautical miles (i.e., 185 km / 115 miles) as the starting point.
@@nancydavis4618It depends on a few factors , like speed and the flight height too. Short haul flights often don't climb as high, as the fuel savings for flying high can be eaten up by the fuel required to climb.
how about a external camera with zoom? or binoculars?
and pilots need to crosscheck
The sudden juxtaposition 20:36 had me absolutely rolling, that was hilarious.
Its now headcannon that MentorPilot always drives to work on that thing and rolls right into the flightdeck with the same deadpan look.
I want one.
Honestly I laughed a lot when I saw that, I want one too!
Being a ramp agent in Canada, I sometimes work on this specific plane with its recognizable livery. That's fascinating how each plane has its story
I spotted this aircraft at YVR occasionally.
I am feeling the exact same thing in here
I have worked ramp on this exact aircraft at YXX
Fascinating to think the aircraft I am loading bags into was 39 feet from water
INSANEEEE
When you said "we will never know" I figured this ended disastrously, so happy to hear everyone was safe. Another great video!
Yeah, or using past tense.
You and me both! 💕
This is why I that there should be 'importance' departure and approach cones regarding the both the data and voice recorders so that they do not record over themselves at critical points during the flight, and or if something happens that needs to be kept for reference.
My idea was always, to have a secondary tape running in parallel that would be activated in the event of an error, or a justification of some sort in order to preserve information in cases such as this.
There are literally thousands of instances where the voice recorder and data recorded have been overwritten and information is lost that could be deemed as important.
Actually, we knew this beforehand. An accident/disaster would have been in the news prominently, and there isn't one on this airport, except for the spectacular landings over the called beach.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg I knew by the title 😂
Fun factoid: the hotel painted their roof dark grey after the incident report release. You can confirm this on google maps.
why
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 Presumably so the building wouldn't look like a runway in low visibility.
@@Sirithil grays pretty close to concrete and asphalt from an aerial view. Seems like a poor choice if that was the intended result?
@@mtmadigan82 Have a look at the hotel on Google Maps now. The roof is pretty much exactly the same grey-green shade the clouds were in the video. It'd be basically invisible if this happened again, unlike the white roof which showed up in the rain and looked exactly like a runway.
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 Keep up.
I really love about this series that you don't only cover the bad accidents, but also stories like this, which could have turned out way worse but didn't. It's always reassuring to see how every of those (even "minor") incidents eventually contributes to make the aviation industry safer for everyone by not focussing on blaming one single person but by addressing shortcomings of every player - the pilots, the airlines, ATC and the aircraft manufacturers, and recommending improvements from which everyone can benefit in the future.
Keep up the great work!
Back in 1990 I was a FO on the DC-10 and we had layovers in St Maarten and we stayed in the same Maho Beach hotel. I was in the room and something flashed by the window about 200 yards away and then I heard a loud splash. From the room I couldn't see what hit the water but a few min later I went to a location where I could see the entire bay from the Hotel and a single engine Piper was in the water nose down and sinking. Four people were in the water by the aircraft and all survived the ditching. A week later on another layover I bought my snorkel gear and dove on the wreck in about 15' of water.
Did you find any gold Rolex watches? Maybe someone’s wallet? 😁
As a current student pilot with the goal to be an airline pilot one day, I love all the lessons and information that can be learned from these videos.
Great to hear! Best of luck with your training.
I love to see pilots watch these. There are so many recurring patterns to learn from (for instance regarding go-arounds in marginal conditions). Would be fabulous to adopt these videos as some form of paid recurring theoretical training for pilots.
You need to stop watching TH-cam and study more!🤨
Jk!😃🫡
Right there with you, Drew!
I really loved that clip of you in your pilot's uniform on a children's toy vehicle from 20:36 onward, as it made me laugh. Thank you for injecting an appropriate piece of humor into an otherwise very serious presentation. That juxtaposition of a very humorous clip with the very serious narration/presentation is just wonderful.
Thank you for sharing these great analysis' with us (the public at large).
For some reason, I had not really noticed this. Thanks for pointing it out, gave me a good chuckle 😂
Anyone knows if this is part of another video? I really want more context or just more clips of that. Its absolutely hilarious.
me when watching that: where can I get that pinky mini race-cycle thing 😂 I want one
The best part was the sheer focus and determination on his face. Like he's flying a Boeing.
I almost choked and snorted tea through on my nose. Was not expecting that visual 😂😂😂
I like that WestJet didn't try to hide anything and actually changed their training and breifings for pilots, making it safer.
Safety Above All a motto we live by above or below the wing
Mmm. They didn't save the 2 main systems which would have had more information. Events like this should be auto saved, of legally required to be manually saved. For education and safety improvement.
And sounds like they didn't fire/punish the pilots either. While this was pilot error. When you break it all down it's understandable how this happened. And it wasn't due to outright negligence.
Why wouldn't anyone?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now actually, the Quick Access Recorder (which is intended for maintenance) provides more info than the Flight Data Recorder (which is one of the two black boxes). What was missing was only the Cockpit Voice Recorder (the other of the black boxes). Not saying that isn't bad in itself, but luckily the investigators were not devoid of data.
Edit: But yes, this stuff should be preserved automatically. They're actually working on making a system so that all in-flight data is automatically transmitted via satellite uplink continuously during flight. Don't know how far they are with that yet, though.
I love that you cover surviving incidents not just the Disasters. Thank you, I am not a Pilot, only had a frw lessons but find your detailed explanations broken down so we can really understand. You are a great teacher!!
i always love how happy you look to be able to tell us about your passion
I am!
These accidents, or near accidents, are really interesting, but what is fascinating is your description of the procedures behind all these flights. Really makes one respect the pilots and cabin crew, and the people on the ground.
Mentour Pilot - I think you need to take a look at the reply below. Someone trying to harvest TH-cam addresses???
I always love your stories. Detailed, easy language and interesting. Not to mention the introduction that keeps you glued and eager to know what is about to happen. Who else is with me?
Agreed!
The pilot's perspective puts the cherry on the cake.
Me!
Same here!
Up plus plus!
Excellent video! I’ve been following Petter for years, and this is one of my favorite clips. I enjoy a lot the detailed analysis of “apparently minor” incidents: it makes you understand that EVERYTHING is important and there’s a lot to be learnt even if the occurrence is not a full-blown disaster. Good psychological explanation - and BTW congrats for the quality of the virtual rendering: massive improvements, to an extent to which it starts to be difficult to understand if it’s computer generated or actual video footage
My favorite of these videos is where the problem is resolved with minimal injuries! Keep it up Mentour!
I was waiting for someone to cover this incident. Glad it was you!
Hope you enjoy!
WOW! You and your team are getting really good at the graphics.. the rain, the pilots in the cockpit .. just makes for a great presentation!! Bravo !!!
Thank you very much! 💕💕
It's just MS Flight Simulator lol
The vacationers on the beach was a nice touch.
@@rasta77-x7o even painters "just" use a paintbrush, but still they make art. Don't be dismissive of others, it doesn't reflect well back on yourself.
@@MentourPilot The rendering of the Gravelly Hill Interchange is especially good ;)
My dad and brother , who are in the aviation industry, are watching this with me, your videos are just so interesting!
Excellent, a watch party! Love it! Hope you all enjoy!
I love how you always manage to discuss things that are applicable to us, as civilians, such as the Perception>Comprehension>Prediction framework. Knowing how we are wired to process our surroundings can help us avoid common errors!
Absolutely! 👍 I'm a big fan of disaster & near miss analysis content of various kinds, but not from any kind of morbid curiosity. To me, they're a super-valuable tool for all of us (regardless of life or work contexts) in encouraging us to keep our risk assessment awareness sharp, frequently check our biases, and advocate for safety and accountability wherever that is needed?
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 I Agré totally. 🇸🇪
Your video's have a non-agressive/threatening way of informing/educating the viewer WITHOUT insulting their intelligence. This is a perfect match, you are- if not a pilot- a born educater! And I for one am a proud student of yours😎 Thanks for your wonderfull content!
Thanks for the high quality content. This is one of my favorite channels.
Thats so great to hear! Thank you so much for your wonderful support!!
I’ve been on that beach by the runway many times. It’s a surreal experience. When planes take off , people literally line up on the chain link fence to get blown back by the engine thrusts during take off. There has been several injuries because of people doing this.
And even a death.
I love the look on the kids face when you went round the corner in your cart!
Haha! Yeah, he was so confused 😂
😅💛
@@MentourPilotIsn’t that your son, Petter?
I came across this amazing channel about 4 months ago and have binge watched every episode to date. As an ATPL rated helicopter pilot here in Trinidad in the Caribbean with over 13,000 hrs ,I love to read and research accident and incident reports. Mentour Pilot takes this to the next level and makes it very easy to follow even for the non aviation people whom I'm sure he has a lot of subscribers. Keep up the amazing work!!
I am the same - not an aviator but fascinated by hearing all the details about accidents and incidents, and the safety recommendations that come about from them. Love Mentour Pilot channel!
Do also check out the sister channel, presented by the same guy.
There's Mentor Pilot, that deals with well reached historic events
And there's Mentor Now! where he responds to recent aviation news, often before they're have been proper investigations is anything went wrong.
I find them both fascinating.
Yes he describes the incident, so well , I felt I was in the aircraft with them… Great video 👍
As a Canadian, I recognized that Westjet Disney Plane right away from the thumbnail. And as someone who flew Westjet, from YYZ to SXM, I'm glad this happened before I was on that flight lol! Also, when the airplanes take off from SXM, you can hear the planes turn before the mountains (depending on which way they take off of course) and how much force they're using to lift that plane, and it's SO loud. Sint Marteen/Saint Martin is beautiful and it was a great trip!
Mentour team, by far my favorite aviation channel out there, your attention to detail and how well everything
is put together to create these wonderful and informative videos is awesome!
Yeah, clearly there is a CG team too.
I would have also suggested that the roof of the hotel be repainted a darker color so it couldn't be mistaken for a runway again.
The hotel no longer has a white roof.
They painted the roof dark grey after this incident.
I’m really enjoying the addition of the psychology behind the incidents in the recent videos! Keep up the great work, Mentour!
Glad to hear that!
Yes, the human factors engineering aspects of flying, driving--all mechanical transport operations are critical to safe transportation.I am an Ergonomics Engineer and Human Factors Engineer.
I've stayed right there at the Sonesta Maho twice. It's an amazing location for aviation enthusiasts to watch planes come and go. Nothing like standing a couple hundred feet behind a 747 as it powers up for take off.
Me too. I love the thrill of seeing something so massive take flight... I still can't believe it works.
@@CynthiaSchoenbauer Me too 🙋♂️
The passion and competence you put in your videos is always a pleasure to watch! Thank you for your great work!
I'm so used to my own tropical island's airport having Cat II ILS approach (Mauritius) that I was very surprised to learn this popular destination only has VOR and RNAV! I'm glad this flight was ultimately okay - the experience of the pilots is sure to have played a part in their ability to recover from the situation.
If I was the hotel... I'd probably redecorate the roof. Maybe add a giant red-X and/or the hotel logo? I mean, don't wanna look like an airstrip.....
There is a public road between the start of the runway and the sea which probably can’t be re-routed hence cannot build platforms to cater to an ILS approach. Guess the experts can confirm or debunk this.
@@marhawkman303
If I was the airport I'd contact the hotel to ask if they could possibly do something about that
@@Legendendear yeah, it seems like it'd be to the hotel's benefit to look different?
@@tldacosta485 That was correct. may be they could build a bridge over the road?
I have started showing your videos to my 9 year old Son now and he is so excited that he wants to become a pilot when he grows up. Thanks for making such amazing and informative videos.
Wow, that’s really nice to hear. Tell him
“Good luck with your training” from me!
A crash you might want to visit is the crash of Model 299 on October 30 in 1935.
This was a B-17 prototype and in the aftermath it was decided that aircraft had become too complex to operate solely of memory. Thus was checklists introduced.
Thanks so much for this.I do love a happy ending! The psychology behind these kind of “errors” is so interesting. As a nervous flyer who is nonetheless fascinated by aviation ( my father was an RAF pilot) I take great comfort in knowing just how skilful pilots are and how many safety features there are on aircraft. I’m on a short flight across Europe in a couple of weeks and this has made me feel better about it.
Are we not gonna talk about Mentour Pilot just cruising around on a hover board cart @ 20:36 😂
His kid was like "wow daddy is having fun!"
that was really hilarious
Thank you so much for these videos, sir. I'm a trucker by trade, not a pilot, but these videos are always interesting to me. I'm always a bit nervous when boarding aircraft or ships, and I'm making plans to visit the UK. While one might think watching videos on incidents and accidents would be a bad idea for a nervous flyer, I like watching yours because you explain the nuances of the situations, and what lessons the industry has learned to be safer which is actually helping me with the idea of flying over the Atlantic. Thanks again!
Indeed, these are good at showing how multiple things have to go wrong in just the right (wrong?) order for a crash to happen. I've never been a very nervous flier myself, but I'm definitely even _less_ nervous now!
And it's also heartening to see incidents that _didn't_ end in a crash -- and what was learned to make a future incident even less likely.
I like that you explain incidents like this one in detail instead of just covering the most well-known accidents. I actually learn a lot about incidents I didn't know before in your videos. Keep up the work, thank you!
Been watching you're content for a while now. I really enjoy airplane stuff and as a child tried anything in an attempt to fly. I'm not really an aviation geek, but really enjoyed this video! Pretty cool to see the airline making safety recommendations. The safety environment around aviation is really cool and quite frankly should be a role model in many other industries!
Yes, it’s a very good industry to work in from that regard. 💕
Hi Peter, I always enjoy watching your vids as I find nobody better at explaining than you. It's the perfect mix of content and how you deliver it. I don't know anyone who can do better.
All the best to you, your channel and your family!
The fact that this was the Frozen themed plane
Even before I was "into" commercial aviation whenever I was at Pearson I always would walk around trying to spot the two Disney themed planes at the gates.
I like how the more recent episodes are much less severe with most having little to no loss of life. Just shows how the industry is becoming safer.
I love doing these episodes because the learning is the same, with no one getting hurt.
Since 2009 there have not been any major lethal accidents involving a reputable commercial airline (that is from the US, Canada, Australia, western Europe, Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea or Japan).
@@ironlionzion1380 Germanwings - 9525 from 2015 comes to mind. 150 people died there.
@@mac_cy3636 Germanwings wasn't an accident though. It was intentionally flown into the ground.
@@Laudian. True
I use Mentour's thought process/learning process/questioning of what I know every time I step into a little Cessna 172. Really keeps you humble to think of highly experienced pilots falling to human-susceptible error and thinking things through in this way makes me safer (I hope).
Awesome comment Matthew! Thanks for being here and safe flying!
Wow Petter, great description as usual, some years since I retired from flying these fabulous machines, and it sure brought back lots of memories.
Very nearly all the holes lined up in the cheese- that was just far too close for comfort.
They really got sucked in such that they made really bad errors.
There’s a certain Indonesian airline that have a great record in stretching the limits on “so called” visual approaches to the extent of actually landing in the water. I’m sure you’ll know who I’m talking about.
I don’t think I could have ever done the same- definitely would have called unstable approach I believe….
I even did exactly that as a new FO on the 747 (having come from the 767) when landing at another island strip, landing in heavy rain at night in about 1991 - actually to the point of yelling “You must listen, we’re low” at the very experienced captain. I don’t think it would have ended very well if I’d been intimidated by him and said little or nothing.
There was a similar incident at Dublin Airport some years ago, when the ATC officer realised that an aircraft on final approach had mistaken the vertical line of lighted windows on a nearby hotel for the actual runway lights.
Yikes! I can see how that might happen.
Did they analyse the level of runway lighting at that time? I hope it would be much stronger than some building's interior lighting!?
@@skayt35 The problem is you can't really regulate how bright people will illuminate inside their living spaces, hotel rooms or businesses, and runways light can only be so bright I think...
Talk about the perfect storm (no pun intended) of variables that build up to create a situation like this, like the hotels roof shape and orientation that made it similar to the runway. Really highlights the importance of procedures and required rules for specific airports during different phases of the flight.
Indeed.
LOVE THIS CHANNEL!! Nobody explains things quite like you. I'm thinking seriously about getting my pilot's license, and I pay such close attention, often rewinding a bit to make sure I understand what your explaining. I've bounced the idea around for a while, but your channel really has helped me solidify my decision. Thanks for all the work you put into this. It's made a real difference in my life, and the plans I have for the future. 🛫
That’s awesome to hear and I wish you the best of luck!
@@MentourPilot Thank you!!! 🙏🛫💖
When buzzing the tower is banned, buzz the nearest building instead
HahHa!
Bedankt
Thank you so much for your wonderful support!! It really means a lot to me and the team!
I love the Mix of incidents that everybody knows about and less known near misses that show the incredible airmanship of truly remarkable pilots. Thank you, Petter and team.
Your editing today vs 2 years ago has gotten soo much better!
are you outsourcing this, or do you work hard on each video yourself?
I LOVE YOUR SHOWS KEEP IT UP!
You explain aviation so well I'm starting to believe I can fly . The work you do is so good, you're bringing aviation into the mainstream. One humble suggestion if you're looking into expanding your content repertoire is to share with us interesting developments in aviation history from your perspective that have had profound impact on the industry.
Again, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
Finally! Been waiting patiently for a new video Petter. Thank you so much for this recent upload! 😊
Thanks! I love your channel.
Thats awesome to hear! Thank you so much for your wonderful support!!
Love these videos!
So happy to hear that! Thank you!
I was kinda expecting recommendation for the hotel to repaint the roof at the end😄. Such interesting story and glad pilots managed to correct the situation safely. I've been watching your videos since last summer and it' always joy to see the new upload. Thanks!
Hahaha As was I regarding the roof of the hotel to be repainted lol.
White roof makes a lot of sense for the hotel because they have to cool the building a lot and having white roof reduces the heat input. Adding two red flashing lights would make a lot more sense - probably cheaper to implement and better safety during poor weather.
Maybe they could add a large sign stating: "Helicopter landings only!" 😇
@@clefsan If they already mixed the roof of a building with runway, I'm pretty sure a sign without extra lights is not going to help.
@@MikkoRantalainen they could add a black angled wall to block off the last section so it looks different and improves cooling. Or dazzle camo or similar to change its shape
Fascinating how little is needed to create a possible desaster scenario!
And how important sharp pilots are to avoid it last second!
Thank you for these detailed analyses, perfectly presented!
I’m fully convinced this is one of the most impressive channels on the internet. A perfect example of the quality that comes from someone who takes pride in their work / content. A pilot’s attention to detail and professional excellence applied to a TH-cam channel. Only been watching for a week, but I’m a huge fan.
Love the "Ironside" moment (in full pilot uniform) on that little road scooter 😂.
Great video - thanks.
I watched the few short YT videos over this approach. Fascinating that I could follow every move of the pilots - exactly like you explained. In the video made by a passenger you can even hear how the engines are spooling up first to 75% than shortly after to full go around trust. Thanks for the absolutely fantastic explanation again🙂
Excellent job! This video touches several very important subjects that are still hiding from view for many pilots accustomed to the "routine". Thanks so much for your presentation.
Glad it was helpful! 💕
Aside from being an excellent pilot (I presume), you are an amazing narrator. I am a medical professional, but I have recently been absorbed with your videos. Impressive narration.
I have serviced this very plane before, had no idea it got into an incident since the last time I touched it! Awesome video all around.
Super thanks 💓 love this especially investigation. Better than a lot of series out there on any OTT.
I love your visual aids. It makes learning so much easier. I can "feel" the information and intuit it better when all potential questions are met with an attempt to demonstrate effects with visual aids. I joined your patreon to show my appreciation.
I enjoy your videos man, must be an amazing feeling being an captain walking through the airports, sharing with family, friends and strangers when asked what you do for a living… I’m a pilot! Plus your success on TH-cam. Amazing man. From Scotland 🏴
I am really grateful for what I have and what I can achieve. Thank you 🙏
@@MentourPilot awesome electric go kart.👍👍👍
good to hear one that was more of a mishap than a close call. I'll be interested to hear your opinion on the increased number of runway incidents that are happening in the US this year, when you get to them.
I would consider this a close call. Leveling off and having to roll an airliner at only 12 m above ground is dangerous. Even more so because they had too much sink rate right before that.
My number One pilot
Him and Kelsey are my favourite pilots!
Ghey
I agree! Blancolirio too!!!
@@Yuki-di2rb Same for me. Different styles, but both honestly give us great content.
@@johnredcorn2476 No u!!!
Very interesting as always
I am so glad you though so! Thank you so much for your wonderful support!!
20:37 Mentour on a HoovyKart was the best thing I ever saw this year. Cheared me right up
Being, like most of your viewers, an aviation geek I choose to stop on Sint Maarten especially to experience those incredible landings!
You should absolutely go! We went in 2021 and loved it. We added it to our list of islands to return to. Everyone was friendly and the island as a whole is just gorgeous.
Paul, with your opinion, what IFR approaches with marginal terrain limits would be left? The bowel ROA in VA comes to mind.... EGE Colorado as well... Places who's IFR approaches have increased risks due to terrain.
You wouldn't believe how close the landing jets come to hotels in Puerto Princesa, Palowan, Philippines. It was a complete thrill.
Dear Captain,
I know I might sound eccentric but I sincerely treasure your content and all the fantastic documentaries you put out. I have always wanted to be a pilot but I am too poor. However, my love and ambition for aviation will always remain and I feel as though your videos are fulfilling that desire. If I had money I would certainly gift it to you but as I said I am broke. Keep up the great work.
Sincerely,
Top G.
In 2016, I was living in a house looking over the sir Francis drake channel from Tortola British Virgin Islands. I don’t know whether you know anything about this incident, but there was a passenger aircraft less than 50 m from the sea surface with engine, screaming, trying to gain elevation during exactly the same conditions. Displaying most likely came from Charlotte Amalie airport.
I’m really impressed with the simulation from the opening-I’m very familiar with SXM and was thinking “hey that looks like St. Maarten!” -- except the visibility, which I’ve never seen so bad!
I have to say that West Jet is one of the best success stories for an airline. They actually made flying affordable for everyone in Canada forcing other airlines to lower all the prices to survive in Canada.😊
And they did so providing a level of service that put Air Canada to absolute shame.
@@valerierodger I totally agree !
@@valerierodger
Ah yes, Air Canada - the JB Hunt of the airline industry.
Too bad they sold to a private firm and are treating their employees like every other big corp instead of being treated like owners.
@@gpaull2 Yeah this was a very very sad day because that was the only thing that set them apart. Capitalism ruins everything.
Many years ago I would bid that trip because we had a 36 hour layover at the Maho Reef Hotel there. This was back in the DC-10 days before LNAV/VNAV approaches. We would arrive at night and in low vis we only had the old dive and drive method.
I often laid in bed at the hotel wondering if someone would wander off course or get confused by the lighting in the entertainment area adjacent to the airport.
Absolutely fascinating video, quite different from some others you have done but totally absorbing, good to see the airline giving advice/recommendations to the airport etc, better than excellent as always 😊
Thank you for such a well done documentary. You really need your own series on the discovery channel! You do far better than most!
Its been awhile since i seen you on youtube i watched almost all your videos around and before the pandemic thankyou for the good flight education and advice an flying always interesting stories to learn from
Another episode with a happy ending, with no damage at all - love it! //
I always appreciate the reports and investigations on incidents where things ultimately worked out.
13 m. above waters - phew. That sounds crazy close. As a passenger when landing at Copenhagen Runway 30 - that looked close enough to me.
So great seeing the changes in guidance even when the incident is 'harmless'. Thanks for covering this and to all those helping to keep aviation safe.
A bit like flying a 747 into Hong Kong's Kai Tak Airport "in the old days"? Turn right before the mountain and after touchdown, jam on reverse thrust and brakes, so you don't skid off the end of the runway into Kowloon Bay! If you weren't the flight crew, you had time to see the people watching TV in their lounges, through the windows of the tallest apartment blocks!
I suppose there's one obvious question: did anyone contact the hotel owners to see if anything could be done to change the profile of the hotel roof to try to reduce the risk of optical illusion?
I think in the US there are laws that can force building owners to make them aviation friendly
@@JimVajda82 Within a certain distance, same as height restrictions in the area. Heck, under Eminent Domain it can be removed entirely.
@@JimVajda82 In this case, since the hotel has so many people see it from the air, a plain white roof seems like a low-budget beginner option. A corporate logo or name of the Hotel spelled out on the roof seems like it'd both be an effective way to prevent mis-identification, and also look nice.
@@marhawkman303 it’d still look like a runway from a distance. Why not simply put the typical flashing red beacons on the top that they put on everything else?
@@marcellkovacs5452 heh, you mean blinking lights like on a runway? :D hahaahah, yeah you'd have to carefully choose light colors or having a lighting roof would make it worse.
You are what keeps my going in my ATPL study’s…! Thanks Champ!
Happy to help! Keep working!!
So sad to see that the total views for this video are just above 950k in 2 months so far whereas some useless videos uploaded by some stupid daily vloggers get more than a million views in a day...this gut puts so much effort in research, analysis and animation...he deserves more...keep up the good work pilot...we need more people like you here on youtube...hats off to your dedication 👍
It's the TH-cam Paradox. Much like the Fermi Paradox, only more mysterious 🤔
That's pretty common. For instance as far a boats shooting at each other before 1950, Drachinifel is THE channel. He is very knowledgeable and quite funny. Dry British wit, which makes it much more enjoyable. He's about at the same views as Mentour or take boats before 1950 that don't shoot at each other Oceanliner Designs and Big Old Boats are the premier channels. Both are of the same quality as Mentour so I recommend a watch if you like old steamships. The famous one features heavily of course but others too.
The audience for this sort of stuff is just smaller. Many come to TH-cam for light entertainment and not for education.
Or take current military matters, where a lot of garbage narrated by robots get millions of views while the Mentour equivalent of that field Perun, has a lot less views. But still all those channels are growing and have captured many who wouldn't have thought they would be interested in airliner operation, suboptimal battleship design, or tales from the age of steam and iron or hour long PP presentations on logistics.
But there is a growing number of extremely high quality channels such as Mentour Pilot or Oceanliner Designs that even a few years ago wouldn't have been imaginable, when the best you got was some made for TV documentary with bately accurate information, dramatic music and sensationalisation beyond anything reasonable. Or biased as hell.
Also I think a lot of these channels share subscribers. The type of person interested in how an inadvertent deployement of slats causes a liner to almost crash is likely to be interested in how the rudder on Titanic was steered by a compination of electrical signals and two steam engines that could be started and stopped precisely and quickly enough to steer a giant 100 ton rudder in turn holding the forces of a 46000 ton ocean liner turning (a little too slowly in some cases).
And the same people are likely to want their current events analysed by an actual subject matter expert and not bobbleheads reading from a teleprompter (HI Sutton for instance and of course almighty Perun).
So you'll probably enjoy those too even if the subject is different. It's just fascinating to listen to subject matter experts and something that used to be rare. If you didn't work in a field you wouldn't have access to say an airline pilot (and training instructor) explaining every nuance of aviation alongside some nice graphics and delivered 2-3 times a week at no cost, besides maybe 30 s in adds from YT and one sponsor read, which is a lot less annoying than the multi-minute TV ads that seem to get mote absurd by the day, with the product barely featuring and instead pseudo-philosophical garbage being read by a failed actor.
I've just gotten into your channel after starting to play Microsoft Flight Simulator a few weeks ago and I really have to give you credits for making your videos so "beginner friendly" and even using MSFS to visualise the entire thing.
Keep it up friend!😊
Curious what your experience was installing this beast. Did you acquire the digital version or the boxed set? I have heard/seen horror stories for both
@@lonewolf5238 I've got the digital versuon on my Xbox Series S. Downloading it took like 3 days... I dont have good internet, downloading with 2-12 mbit/s at daytime and up to 25 mbit/s at night. 200GB...
Wish there were a few clips of the plane captured from hotel guests and beach goers! Great video as always.
Love the effort put in, great video Petter!
I've flown WestJet many times and remember when this happened.
Not quite as dramatic, but just down the road from me the approach to runway 34 at Penticton CYYF has a lot in common with this approach. Final over water (Skaha Lake), treetop height over a beach and a road, land.
My mothers parents had a farm in the direct path of an airport/airfield in Mora, Sweden, and when visiting them during the summers as a kid theres two things I remember clear as day: The yearly(?) airshows and big aircraft flying over their house at a seemingly ridicuously low altitude on a few occations (though not in relation to mentioned airshows, I dont think), so I can only imagine what this wouldve been like.
Another great one, sir! When this story was in the news, my first thought was "I hope Mentour Pilot does this one." Wish granted! Thanks, and keep up the sterling work!
Always loved your writing and narration. Love the new visual format! Give your new editor a raise😊
Du är grym! Bland de mest välgjorda videorna på youtube. Alltid lika intressanta 👍🙏
For others relying on Google translate, apparently "grym" is used to mean "cool" or "awesome", as well as its original meaning of "cruel" ... kinda like "sick" in the U.S.
I was just saying (in Swedish) that he is awesome and that he makes some of the absolute best and most well produced videos on TH-cam. They are always super interesting to watch!
@@larrywest42 You are absolutely right. Thanks for clarifying! This was intended for him personally and I did not realize someone might use Google translate to read it. He certainly is not a cruel person 😂