In terms of usage, ALICE is closer to Blue Destiny's EXAM system (Just with less NT craziness) or Unicorns Destroy Mode in the fact that it has certain triggers that it responds to before taking over. Zero presents its pilot with every possible outcome and allows them to choose the best future. All of which are different from stuff like Hyper Mode, SEED or Trans-Am, which are all just basic stat boosts Makes me wonder if Turn-A is hiding something equally crazy under that mustache...
oops typo. i mean generation F's sentinel gundam scenario has 2 2-D animation events and 1 FMV but they dont have the FMV above since its only exclusive to Generation Zero
Actually ALICE is a advance logistic inconsequential cognitive equipment. its an learning AI to help pilots survive longer, the AI detect dangers the pilot cant survive and will take over the MS to take the most feasible action to save the pilot. BTW EXS my favorite of all the gundams ever designed so i thank whomever uploaded this movie
hehehe i instantly fell in love with the rock music they played in this FMV. If gundam sentinel is ever going to be animated, i wish they call the composer who made this background music @zavierfrost : well Gundam Sentinel (the series that gundam is in) only came out as a novel which emphasized the MS as space vehicles, equipment rater than super weapons but what's impresive the design is made in the 80s by the legendary Hajime Katoki as a debut mechanical designer
@firzennet I say its a win because the pilot can always ride on to Exus again and fight until he kills the enemy. But this is an ultimate question I have for all gundam. Most of the gundam says 'Prototyoe' even in the first gundam, Zeta, and etc. So if it is prototypes, then isn't it possible to at least mass producetwo of the same gundam? Like Blue Destiny and gundam 04 and 05? Sorry for my lack of info but veeeeery curios.
@rematche lol no problem dude. It happens! But yeah, the Coordinator basically 'is' the C.E. newtype. SEED was supposed to be a modern day rehashing of MSG, hence the fission reactors as opposed to fusion. Though they obviously weren't in the same universe. Spin-offs that include haros are supposed to be related in at least a few ways, be it spatial awareness/psychic communique or mechanical design, hence the Zaku and ZAKU line. And of course, that all-too-necessary 'V' symbol.
@rematche Well, Angels in the Gundam universe would've fare too well regardless, given the amount of beam weapon technology. It's been shown that AT-Fields can't block visible light and whatnot. This also solves that whole 'Gundam vs Angel' debate if they have enough power behind that beam cannon. Btw, what game is this any ways? An ACE? or the SRW?
@@stoplerLate but that’s NOT the Full Armor ZZ. The confusing part is that the FAZZ are a test bed for the Full Armor upgrade but they are NOT ZZ themselves, they just have a similar model code to the Full Armor ZZ, which is FA ZZ.
@rematche True, but in the RX-78-2, Amuro was still pretty green, which means it's Heero/01 vs Amuro/RX. In Zero-G, RX has a chance to avoid that buster rifle, but not in the atmosphere. Assuming it survives, then in CQC, his newtype prowess may allow him to last against Heero. Then again, his powers weren't awakened completely. Even so, moving along, the RX/Re-GZ didn't have a psychommu system, so against something with Zero System, Amuro'd just wear it out trying to keep up.
yup its a PS1 turn based strategy game named SD gundam G Generation Zero which chronicles all of UC century mobile suits dating during bandai's 'bigbang project' so no seed
@Fuzion Then again, the Epyon vs Re-GZ is kinda iffy, because then the Zero system 'is' active, which means both pilots are going to be predicting eachother, and one's even going to be seeing both probable fates and simply selecting the best one. Then it's down to machine specs: Can the Re-GZ physically match the Epyon's speed/power? Inevitably it's gonna come into a CQC battle where sabers 'will' clash.That oversized beam saber of the Epyon may very well crash through the Re-GZ's standard.
its the ALICE system, the early and better form of ZERO system. its a learning AI that activates if the pilot's life is in danger and it will take over to do the best action, its also a co-pilot program that controls the 2 modules if its in MS mode while the pilot handles the core fighter
I know im gonna get a lot of critism for this, but what exactly is a new type. Ive watched the UC universe series but it didnt have subs... sooo thanks
yup the mk.5 is icredibly fast that it managed to kill 3 FAZZ units(prototype full armor ZZ gundams, each of them has heavy firpower comparable to capital ships) in an instant as for the novel, it'll be hard to find, this series is released during the 80s
((sorry edit, damn key board)) well Katoki's designs are more realistic, meaning the MS are driven by pilots but aiming and other stuff are left to AIs and CPUs like modern fighter planes as for the why it got downgraded, its a mystery, in the novel the EXS never got downgraded and got to see battle in the final days of the war with new desides (not a typo)
Hmm I read up on EXS on wikipedia.org that the pilot of the MArk V (That being the blue gundam) lost all of his teeth because the unit was so fast while trying to pull off a maneuver Hmm anyone know where i can find the novel
Not only would the thought of facing Heero(and, if by some odd chance one survives long enough, his team) be a tad disheartening, but the damn zintradi and angels... Okay, Angels ALONE.... I mean... damn.. You've got a lot of shit that simply won't go down with one well-placed shot, let alone 200 shots.
@rematche in some episode gundam wing blueprint of gundam sandrock it said armor was gundarium thats gundarium, plus they use fusion reactors. just because they use different tech doesn't mean shit, tech advances and older tech gets outdated. what about the use of bits(UC weapons) in G Gundam, just for show i think not. i read somewhere that other series directors wanted there series to be part of UC. check your message.
@rematche lol you enjoy those paragraphs don't ya? But yeah, in the Astray manga, it states that Coordinators have the ability to communicate via thought, and given their enhanced abilities, other than the few naturals who're able to do the same, they fit the bill for the C.E. Newtype. Be it coordinator or clone of one. And as for the 'vs' vids, I like 'em. I'm sure many people have had that question of "who'd win", if even once.
no not a manga, it only came out as a novel. BTW that series is the first one to came up with INCOM technology (the yoyo-funnel thing in wire) that used in gundam seed's ra flaga's mobius one fighter
i agree, this is the only gundam that treated their mobile suits like fighter planes than super weapons and they rely on MS AIs to do the fighting not only the EXS
@rematche also the Turn A is not the ultimate gundam, its 2nd strongest. strongest gundam being Turn X which is confirmed by Tomino to be a gundam. in fact i have pics to prove.
well Katoki's designs are more realistic, meaning the MS are driven by pilots but aiming and other stuff. as for the why it got downgraded, its a mystery, in the novel the EXS never got downgraded and got to see battle in the final days of the war with new desides (not a typo)
@rematche And I'm sure plenty of people knew the Turn-X wasn't a Gundam, because as we all should know by now, is that it doesn't take a Gundam to match/ beat the shit out of one. The antagonist and other forces generally always use high-performance machines that, by all rights, are nearly even better than the uber-god-gundams that are ravaging their forces. The term Gundam is just used to describe a high performance, role-specialized machine with an advanced combat CPU.
@sinofms Zero system predicts the future while Alice system is also a super computer which brings result of winning 100% even though the condition your are in is 99.99% losing. THough Alice system ejects the pilot from dying which is still considered as a win because for my opinion, the pilot can ride another gundam or MS and fight until he kills the enemy.
@rematche well in Turn A's case both anime & novel are canon, also Turn X is a gundam, no matter what shit you spew it won't change the fact its a gundam.
@rematche its not tribute they really are part of the universe, the link might be wiki but the fact its in the some episode of wing. check message again.
@starocean00 thats not rude or anything. but i am sorry i lost the link, he said it at some convention. well i can send you some pics of the Turn X with its gundam head, if you like.
@rematche Then again, you have to factor in the performance of the man and the machine. Could Amuro best Heero in a hand-to-hand confrontation on the ground? Heero was trained not only as a high spec MS pilot, but a spec-ops warrior. But wait, Amuro's a Newtype, so in that MS he'll have the maneuver edge, maybe even despite Heero's instinct and experience. Factor this in without use of the Zero System, because I'd assume it was Unit-01 and not Wing Zero.
@octoslut not mean to be ignorant or offensive, just curious about the creator thing, can u link that for me :D cause i want to show it to my forum mates, since they are having the same opinion as mine , so having more evidence could help :D plus i want to know more about it :D
@rematche Yeah it does state that Turn-A could also be interpreted as a combination of past series. *Pulls up notepad* Lets seee... Lightweight with ridiculous amounts of firepower given its uber powerplant, obviously from Wing. I-field generator and everything else from U.C. to compliment that featherweight frame from pocket-sized nukes to teleportation.. Yeah, I'd see we got everything here..
@rematche the mobile trace system in mahiroo(Turn A universe MS). did it magically come into the universe. there are 2 kinds cameos 1:just for fan service usually this one is very small , like wing zero in Turn A gundam. then there is the more exposed cameo where the author wants to link one show to another like black history. Turn A has to many cameos from other universes to call them just fan service. tomino himself stated other universes are part of UC. you calling him a liar.
well almost ALICE is a learning AI system that have new type pilot capabilities, but all in all the program is a sort of 'guessing' software hence the name Advance Logistic Inconsequential Cognitive Equipment
Even though there should be one? I mean you shouldn't just skip from mk III to mk V. Mk IV could even just be one of those design which in the gundam contiunity would be a rejected on paper only design
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME haha xD. mass produced versions of RX-78= GM. Mass produced version of Zeta is arguable. It can be the delta plus, or maybe the later grunts that are present after the Zeta Era, meaning the ZZ era. Blue destiny= failed experimental prototypes, b/c harm is done to pilot. 04,05 are variations. in a way, RX-79(g) is a mass production of RX-78, as u can see several of them in 08th MS Team. They are treated as grunts, just like GMs.
meh cool vid but alice ... havent seen the series so wont know. besides id put all of them into my gundam, ALICE, ZERO, BIO chair, and hyper mode. oh yeah we will also use SEED and Flash system. that should keep u alive XD
turn X indeed is not a gundam, its states according to bandai, but funny thing is, it is the pilot did call turn X a gundam in the game G generations. but overall, the true fact is , its not, cause u cant take data from game as facts . right? :D
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME haha. by winning, it means that you live. Its like a catch 22. The ALICE system is ironic: you win no matter what, but if you actually have no chance of winning, you "win" by getting ejected out of the Gundam while the Gundam is destroyed. So, do you really win?
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In terms of usage, ALICE is closer to Blue Destiny's EXAM system (Just with less NT craziness) or Unicorns Destroy Mode in the fact that it has certain triggers that it responds to before taking over. Zero presents its pilot with every possible outcome and allows them to choose the best future.
All of which are different from stuff like Hyper Mode, SEED or Trans-Am, which are all just basic stat boosts
Makes me wonder if Turn-A is hiding something equally crazy under that mustache...
i love this "yoyo" gundam
EXs Gundam rocks!
*sigh* after many years im still not tired of seeing this. this is what MS dogfights are all about
Thank you, algorithm. Very cool.
oops typo. i mean generation F's sentinel gundam scenario has 2 2-D animation events and 1 FMV but they dont have the FMV above since its only exclusive to Generation Zero
Actually ALICE is a advance logistic inconsequential cognitive equipment.
its an learning AI to help pilots survive longer, the AI detect dangers the pilot cant survive and will take over the MS to take the most feasible action to save the pilot.
BTW EXS my favorite of all the gundams ever designed so i thank whomever uploaded this movie
METAL AS FUCK
hehehe i instantly fell in love with the rock music they played in this FMV.
If gundam sentinel is ever going to be animated, i wish they call the composer who made this background music
@zavierfrost : well Gundam Sentinel (the series that gundam is in) only came out as a novel which emphasized the MS as space vehicles, equipment rater than super weapons but what's impresive the design is made in the 80s by the legendary Hajime Katoki as a debut mechanical designer
All these comments are from before replies were a thing ey?
Also Bandai why haven't I gotten a sentinel OVA yet?
@firzennet I say its a win because the pilot can always ride on to Exus again and fight until he kills the enemy. But this is an ultimate question I have for all gundam. Most of the gundam says 'Prototyoe' even in the first gundam, Zeta, and etc. So if it is prototypes, then isn't it possible to at least mass producetwo of the same gundam? Like Blue Destiny and gundam 04 and 05? Sorry for my lack of info but veeeeery curios.
@rematche lol no problem dude. It happens! But yeah, the Coordinator basically 'is' the C.E. newtype. SEED was supposed to be a modern day rehashing of MSG, hence the fission reactors as opposed to fusion. Though they obviously weren't in the same universe. Spin-offs that include haros are supposed to be related in at least a few ways, be it spatial awareness/psychic communique or mechanical design, hence the Zaku and ZAKU line. And of course, that all-too-necessary 'V' symbol.
@rematche Well, Angels in the Gundam universe would've fare too well regardless, given the amount of beam weapon technology. It's been shown that AT-Fields can't block visible light and whatnot. This also solves that whole 'Gundam vs Angel' debate if they have enough power behind that beam cannon. Btw, what game is this any ways? An ACE? or the SRW?
Oh lol that clears everything up. Thanks for the for explaining.
The video is from G Generation F btw. Easily one of the best G Generation clip ever.
IMO they did mass produce a few gundams in UC timeline the Zeta Mass production type , the F91 is probably the most recognizable mass produced suit
Full Armored ZZ was also mass produced in Sentinel series.
@@stoplerLate but that’s NOT the Full Armor ZZ. The confusing part is that the FAZZ are a test bed for the Full Armor upgrade but they are NOT ZZ themselves, they just have a similar model code to the Full Armor ZZ, which is FA ZZ.
@rematche True, but in the RX-78-2, Amuro was still pretty green, which means it's Heero/01 vs Amuro/RX. In Zero-G, RX has a chance to avoid that buster rifle, but not in the atmosphere. Assuming it survives, then in CQC, his newtype prowess may allow him to last against Heero. Then again, his powers weren't awakened completely. Even so, moving along, the RX/Re-GZ didn't have a psychommu system, so against something with Zero System, Amuro'd just wear it out trying to keep up.
yup its a PS1 turn based strategy game named SD gundam G Generation Zero which chronicles all of UC century mobile suits dating during bandai's 'bigbang project' so no seed
@rematche good point, but I was talking about from a canon standpoint, not the game. He obviously couldn't have been a green pilot in the game xD
@Fuzion Then again, the Epyon vs Re-GZ is kinda iffy, because then the Zero system 'is' active, which means both pilots are going to be predicting eachother, and one's even going to be seeing both probable fates and simply selecting the best one. Then it's down to machine specs: Can the Re-GZ physically match the Epyon's speed/power? Inevitably it's gonna come into a CQC battle where sabers 'will' clash.That oversized beam saber of the Epyon may very well crash through the Re-GZ's standard.
yup you got that right in the bag, but importantly the ALICE is a co pilot system that takes control of the MS whenever the pilot is in danger
its the ALICE system, the early and better form of ZERO system.
its a learning AI that activates if the pilot's life is in danger and it will take over to do the best action, its also a co-pilot program that controls the 2 modules if its in MS mode while the pilot handles the core fighter
its where the ALICE system overrides the controls to take over for a few seconds to save the pilot's life
wat r those orange things that launch out of the ex-s' legs
Nope, this was on PS1, for G Generation Zero. The cutscenes were one of the best things about the game and its sequel G Generation F.
I know im gonna get a lot of critism for this, but what exactly is a new type. Ive watched the UC universe series but it didnt have subs... sooo thanks
also it was a test mobile suit and destroyed by Ex-S in the video so of course it didn't appear
yup the mk.5 is icredibly fast that it managed to kill 3 FAZZ units(prototype full armor ZZ gundams, each of them has heavy firpower comparable to capital ships) in an instant
as for the novel, it'll be hard to find, this series is released during the 80s
What series does this gundam come out in?
Chapter 9 of the Mobile Suit Gundam: Sentinel novel
"Mass Driver"
((sorry edit, damn key board))
well Katoki's designs are more realistic, meaning the MS are driven by pilots but aiming and other stuff are left to AIs and CPUs like modern fighter planes
as for the why it got downgraded, its a mystery, in the novel the EXS never got downgraded and got to see battle in the final days of the war with new desides (not a typo)
Hmm I read up on EXS on wikipedia.org that the pilot of the MArk V (That being the blue gundam) lost all of his teeth because the unit was so fast while trying to pull off a maneuver Hmm anyone know where i can find the novel
Its all really secondhand stuff that I've picked up from around the web, so if its all wrong nows the time to call me on it ^__^
Not only would the thought of facing Heero(and, if by some odd chance one survives long enough, his team) be a tad disheartening, but the damn zintradi and angels... Okay, Angels ALONE.... I mean... damn.. You've got a lot of shit that simply won't go down with one well-placed shot, let alone 200 shots.
@rematche
in some episode gundam wing blueprint of gundam sandrock it said armor was gundarium thats gundarium, plus they use fusion reactors. just because they use different tech doesn't mean shit, tech advances and older tech gets outdated. what about the use of bits(UC weapons) in G Gundam, just for show i think not. i read somewhere that other series directors wanted there series to be part of UC. check your message.
why did his eye's turn red for a few secends.
@rematche lol you enjoy those paragraphs don't ya? But yeah, in the Astray manga, it states that Coordinators have the ability to communicate via thought, and given their enhanced abilities, other than the few naturals who're able to do the same, they fit the bill for the C.E. Newtype. Be it coordinator or clone of one. And as for the 'vs' vids, I like 'em. I'm sure many people have had that question of "who'd win", if even once.
@rematche
i dunno about that, thanks to Turn A gundam. UC,AW,AC,FC are all in the same universe just different time periods.
no not a manga, it only came out as a novel.
BTW that series is the first one to came up with INCOM technology (the yoyo-funnel thing in wire) that used in gundam seed's ra flaga's mobius one fighter
From the novel, Gundam Sentinel.
i agree, this is the only gundam that treated their mobile suits like fighter planes than super weapons and they rely on MS AIs to do the fighting not only the EXS
@killershiva: nope, its in generation zero.f has 2 sd events and 1 FMV but it didntfeature the fmv above
yup the MS did shattered his teeth but i dunno if its from pwning the 3 FAZZ units
There is a MK IV its full name is ORX-012/MSF-008 Gundam Mark IV. I found it on MAHQ, google it.
gotta love the gundam Sentinel novel, its a shame they didnt make an OVA out of it though.
16 year😭
for the gundam x series they were something like psychic
If meet a person with Ex s gundam beside him there's only thing left to do: Run for your life. Tip: And that's going to be fast
@rematche
also the Turn A is not the ultimate gundam, its 2nd strongest. strongest gundam being Turn X which is confirmed by Tomino to be a gundam. in fact i have pics to prove.
well Katoki's designs are more realistic, meaning the MS are driven by pilots but aiming and other stuff.
as for the why it got downgraded, its a mystery, in the novel the EXS never got downgraded and got to see battle in the final days of the war with new desides (not a typo)
SO it is an evolution of the exam system?
@rematche
amuro ray in ideon?? it was someone who might have been amuro. its not confirmed it was amuro.
no thats not a ZZ, not even its variant. its a modified version of the S gundam
so is alice like exam then?
@rematche And I'm sure plenty of people knew the Turn-X wasn't a Gundam, because as we all should know by now, is that it doesn't take a Gundam to match/ beat the shit out of one. The antagonist and other forces generally always use high-performance machines that, by all rights, are nearly even better than the uber-god-gundams that are ravaging their forces. The term Gundam is just used to describe a high performance, role-specialized machine with an advanced combat CPU.
so in other words ALICE has nothing in common with SEED or ZERO
@rematche
doesn't matter when he himself states its fucking a gundam.
Ahhh... Ex-S. What a great name for a Gundam. Its not just superior, its EXtra-Superior!
@rematche ALICE system, the best system to have. I heard that it allows you to win no matter what condition you're in.
l like this
i've completed this game..
Uh, no. Newtypes are more on the psychic side of things, though they do have similar abilities.
@sinofms Zero system predicts the future while Alice system is also a super computer which brings result of winning 100% even though the condition your are in is 99.99% losing. THough Alice system ejects the pilot from dying which is still considered as a win because for my opinion, the pilot can ride another gundam or MS and fight until he kills the enemy.
@rematche
well in Turn A's case both anime & novel are canon, also Turn X is a gundam, no matter what shit you spew it won't change the fact its a gundam.
@rematche
its not tribute they really are part of the universe, the link might be wiki but the fact its in the some episode of wing. check message again.
Gundam Sentinel is neither an anime or manga ... it is a fiction from the magazine model graphix ...
@starocean00
thats not rude or anything. but i am sorry i lost the link, he said it at some convention. well i can send you some pics of the Turn X with its gundam head, if you like.
I have the BGM uploaded.
@rematche Then again, you have to factor in the performance of the man and the machine. Could Amuro best Heero in a hand-to-hand confrontation on the ground? Heero was trained not only as a high spec MS pilot, but a spec-ops warrior. But wait, Amuro's a Newtype, so in that MS he'll have the maneuver edge, maybe even despite Heero's instinct and experience. Factor this in without use of the Zero System, because I'd assume it was Unit-01 and not Wing Zero.
我记得EX-S腿部的光线炮被捏爆的，最后还掉落大气层……
@rematche
really mutants explain jamil he was a newtype before the war in Gundam x.
..wait..Mark V gundam !? i must have sleept trough some series!! when did they make a MKV !?!?
@octoslut
not mean to be ignorant or offensive, just curious about the creator thing, can u link that for me :D cause i want to show it to my forum mates, since they are having the same opinion as mine , so having more evidence could help :D plus i want to know more about it :D
Aww crap, im so moving to japan so i can get more, faster and accurate info!
3 times faster!
ALICE system > every other system
the gundam ex-s and gundam deep striker is considered the strongest and hajime's best work
MS combat at it's finest.
i know, i just want to compare the alice and zero for better reference
@rematche Yeah it does state that Turn-A could also be interpreted as a combination of past series. *Pulls up notepad* Lets seee... Lightweight with ridiculous amounts of firepower given its uber powerplant, obviously from Wing. I-field generator and everything else from U.C. to compliment that featherweight frame from pocket-sized nukes to teleportation.. Yeah, I'd see we got everything here..
@rematche
the mobile trace system in mahiroo(Turn A universe MS). did it magically come into the universe. there are 2 kinds cameos 1:just for fan service usually this one is very small , like wing zero in Turn A gundam. then there is the more exposed cameo where the author wants to link one show to another like black history. Turn A has to many cameos from other universes to call them just fan service. tomino himself stated other universes are part of UC. you calling him a liar.
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME Gundam Sentinel it only came out as a novel
well almost ALICE is a learning AI system that have new type pilot capabilities, but all in all the program is a sort of 'guessing' software hence the name Advance Logistic Inconsequential Cognitive Equipment
Gundam Mk V pilot's voice resemble Gato's
Even though there should be one? I mean you shouldn't just skip from mk III to mk V. Mk IV could even just be one of those design which in the gundam contiunity would be a rejected on paper only design
久々にExSとMk-Vのムービーを見ました（笑）
sorry, thought you mistaken me thinking both systems are on the same era.
just a misunderstanding
@rematche
tomino said so.
EX-S FTW!!!
my post is about era not systems
General Purpose Utility Non-Discontinuity Augmentation Maneuvering Weapon System (Gundam SEED Anime)
General Unilateral Neuro-Link Dispersive Autonomic Maneuver System
GUNDAM Generation Unsubdued Nuclear Drive Assault Module (anime)
Gigantic Unilateral Numerous Dominating Ammunition (Anime)
Gunnery United Nuclear Duetrion Advanced Maneuver System (Gundam Seed Destiny Anime)
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME i thought the zero system better cause it almost dose the same thing as the alice
well actually species evolve through mutations.
owned.
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME haha xD. mass produced versions of RX-78= GM. Mass produced version of Zeta is arguable. It can be the delta plus, or maybe the later grunts that are present after the Zeta Era, meaning the ZZ era. Blue destiny= failed experimental prototypes, b/c harm is done to pilot. 04,05 are variations. in a way, RX-79(g) is a mass production of RX-78, as u can see several of them in 08th MS Team. They are treated as grunts, just like GMs.
@MrSpartan002 Eh? I don't get how he was defying logic. Made some pretty good points. What's your beef? o_o;;
no its from generation zero
well exam would be superior if it didn't go beserk half the time.
@starocean00
you can take say of the creator as a fact, tomino said its fucking gundam its a fucking gundam.
meh cool vid but alice ... havent seen the series so wont know. besides id put all of them into my gundam, ALICE, ZERO, BIO chair, and hyper mode. oh yeah we will also use SEED and Flash system. that should keep u alive XD
turn X indeed is not a gundam, its states according to bandai, but funny thing is, it is the pilot did call turn X a gundam in the game G generations. but overall, the true fact is , its not, cause u cant take data from game as facts . right? :D
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME haha. by winning, it means that you live. Its like a catch 22. The ALICE system is ironic: you win no matter what, but if you actually have no chance of winning, you "win" by getting ejected out of the Gundam while the Gundam is destroyed. So, do you really win?
and SEED is more in psycholigical state and not a onboard MS program like ALICE, ZERO and the others
The hell is a Alice System?