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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2020
- In this video I look into a mistake in SM64 code that makes the smoke cloud texture appear incorrectly.
Huge shout out to zoinknoise for creating a patch for this fix
www.romhacking.net/hacks/5008/
N64 Squid Article about N64 texture formats
n64squid.com/homebrew/n64-sdk...
Huge thanks to the SM64 decompilation team & ProjectRevoTPP for finding this error.
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this never bothered me until now
you‘re welcome
wow. i always thought the effect was weird looking, but i thought that was a weird stylistic choice. i mean look at some of the enemy designs.
Yeah there is a chance they thought the bugged version looked better. SM64 was made to be played on CRTs so it didn't look as weirdly crisp back in 1996.
It's definitely a stylistic choice, but it probably came up by accident initially. At some point they kept it 'cause the fuzzle cloud looked better than the texture stamps did
@@TSPhoenix2. True, and to be fair the vanish cap transparency effect was actually made with some pixels being wholly transparent instead of Mario's model itself being semi-transparent, so the smoke actually fits that transparency style
@@ddnava96 yeah the ds version of being invisible looked like the glitched smoke texture...
Snooplax: "The fix is as simple as changing four letters."
Nintendo: "How about we change no letters and charge you for it?"
3D All-Stars didn't fix the "Mario? It that really you?" typo in Yoshi's dialogue either, despite changing other text.
And it was not fixed in "Super Mario 3D All Stars" O_O
Literally unplayable
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I feel like there's a good chance they just preferred the way the texture looked like particles with it set to RGBA. Could be wrong tho
Probably because the overlap of the effect creates too much solid black to cover your view of what was going on, they figured eh, leave the broken one so you can see through whats happening. I agree. Its not very likely that someone wouldn't have noticed this issue through play testing, its a very pixely look.
Whether that's the case or not isn't really relevant, since it's still clearly a bug. It's not displayed in game as the correct format, so even if they said "hey this is wrong, but it looks fine so just leave it" it doesn't change the fact that it IS technically a bug/mistake/whatever you want to label it
@@cheesewheel Thats true, but this happens - if not all the time - then often. Instead of going back through the pipeline you leave it be with the closest fix you got. Usually in later stages where code and game is mostly done and gameplay is being polished and judged as a whole, with small tweaks here and there.
@@cheesewheel But what if it happened in the reverse order? "This smoke is too dense, we need it lighter." "Here's new code with a fix. I just changed the way our existing sprite renders." If it works as designed, it's not a bug.
Charles Fuller yeah. There’s no way to tell that it was intentionally left in or not, can’t assume it’s accidental
This seriously sucks that it's still not fixed on Switch.
There's a somewhat similar but more minor bug with Koopas. When a koopa has no shell on it looks like it's wearing pink underneath. But the pink color is due to a corrupt light entity and it should show up as white. There was a thing about it on Ukikipedia news.
THEY DIDN'T FIX IT FOR THE SWITCH VERSION AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Theory: They originally used IA, a supervisor asked for a look change to the smoke, and switching it to RGBA satisfied that look change.
I love these videos coding-related videos, keep them coming. ^_^
With how minor it is and how similar it looks to the actual texture, it's not a surprise this slipped through.
Can't believe hidden secrets are still being found in Super Mario 64 after all this time. I will say that I always thought the smoke did look a little weird even as a kid. Now it makes perfect sense.
That's the perfect example of why Super Mario 64 is a Masterpiece
I mean, you have the graphic glitched to look like the rest of the games and fit, and then have some random person to fix the bug 20 years later to have the game adapted to the modern times.
Outstanding move, Nintendo
Sounds like mario is laughing like a maniac
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!
_Mario is the Joker confirmed._
I always thought the smoke was weird
So, not only is the Submarine poorly optimized, but the smoke is incorrectly rendered!
Damn snooplax, I had no idea, thanks for the info😁
You know you made one of the greatest games of all time when people are still finding new shit more than 20 years later
Yes it's crazy how popular the game still is!
0:28 Wait, was it _literally_ decompiled, or was it just reverse engineered? I've always heard that a compiled product was irreversible and I've always wanted to look at some lesser known games that don't really have a huge following dedicated to dissecting them.
It was *literally* decompiled. The main game code (excluding 3D libraries) was built without optimizations turned on, and some people got their hands on the original compiler that built the game. By using that, they were able to reconstruct C code that would compile back to the exact same bytes. It was an awesome undertaking.
Google search for decompilers, it took me 10 minutes to figure out how to use one. It's technically illegal though, and I only used it to decompile a proprietary tool which I own the rights to.
@@graalcloud imagine getting arrested for decompiling software lmao
@@andymorin9163 "What are you in for?"
@@graalcloud Decompiling per se is not illegal. Redistributing the decompiled code is a copyright violation. But that is also true for redistributing the binary. I mean, maybe it's different in America than here in Europe, but I doubt it.
Someone's going to lose their job...... 20 years ago
Game director: Hey, these smoke particles are blocking my view to the game, can you fix that?
Programmer: No problem, boss!
We can never go back now
Dude I've always thought that smoke looked weird and mspaint-like, even as a kid. Now I know why.
Lots of people claiming Nintendo is lazy not to fix this when the reality is it probably slipped by because the corrupted version looks fine enough not to raise suspicion. Playtesters wouldn't bring it up because it looks like smoke. Now if it had somehow been rendered as a mass of clown vomit pixels, then it would have been reported, but since it's simply black and transparent, nobody noticed.
i always thought the smoke looked like shit, but i didn’t realise it was an accident.
Great video!!
Also what is the ost you use in the background of the video?
+1
It is Astral Observeitory from Majora's Mask
couldn't even tell the difference until it was specifically pointed out
Where there's smoke, they pinch back.
Lotsa spaghetti!
holy shit. You've rocked my world.
now i know why i hated how the smoke effect looked
ngl i prefer the original texture but this is still super cool to find
I always thought "oh it must look better on a CRT"
Since I got the game when it came out, I can tell you that it looked rather bad to me even back then and on a CRT. It didn't seem to fit with the rest of the game, to be honest.
Are you sure?
What there is inside the rgb channel?
It looks that its using the alpha channel and mixing it with the rgb info to create the effect. And inmy opinion if there info in the rgb the effect is intended
I always wondered why the smoke trail looked like spray paint in this game..Well, now I know!
I like the glitched version more because of its more rash appearance fit for something burning
Astral Observatory Music! 😍
Now I’m wondering if the DS version fixed this issue or not.
After checking, yes, they did fix this issue. That explains why I never thought the smoke looked odd. This one difference must mean that the DS version is the definitive edition!
@@eeveeon4081 Super Mario 64 DS Remastered GOTY 1996+ edition.
And there's that single pic on the back saying :
EVERY PREVIOUS KNOWN ISSUES FIXED! with that image of Before and After the smoke effect fix
@@philippebeauchamp2827 (-except for blj and speedrunning tricks)
Every Copy Of Mario 64 Is Personalized!
Boy, I hope somebody got fired for that blunder
Thats so cool! I would have never guessed.
20 YEARS, Nintendo, twenty years of my life I've been waiting for this game-breaking bug to get patched out. EA can whip out literally dozens of patches and fixes by only a few MONTHS after release. Why can't you be more like them??
Dont woosh me but the game is outdated and you couldnt update old games at the time and still cant. Even the developers cant update. Also like i said the game is outdated.
@@ChefoiL they would release an entirely new cartridge, which is really not necessary for a single texture change. and yes it is outdated and the game has already been pirated and emulated.
@@BRM75_ imagine if they do release a cartridge for a single texture change lol
@@ChefoiL lmao nobody would even bother to buy it probably
This will now haunt me until I die.
Wow! I want to play this on the SM64 I have on my Everdrive. How do I do it?
Just use a rom patcher to apply the patch on your pc. Get the rom on your pc. Then put your sd card in this pc and paste the patched rom in this sd card. Put the sd card back to your everdrive and enjoy the patch
Where did your Spongebob running on N64 Video go?
Now waiting for someone to discover that the water temple in Ocarina wasn’t supposed to be that hard but a dodgy line of code put all the switches on the wrong levels.
hahahah
Hahaha could you imagine
Holy shit I would have never guessed.
I liked the messed up one because it looks like mario's but is steaming
Okay, but did they fix it in the Shindou edition?
The real question is did Nintendo fix this in 3D All Stars?
They didn't
@@user-ew4vx7vh2g Big surprise oh well it's not game breaking.
@@METALMAN4Wii Though it's annoying... Since out of all textures they updated, they didn't even bother to check the smoke.
Now I wonder what it looks like on the DS version
"In this video I look into a mistake in SM64 code that makes the smoke cloud texture appear incorrectly. "
And it's God's work
Thanks for pointing that out, I hate it
Nobody noticed, because everyone used composite.
sorry to ruin the joke, but I got this on launch and I did notice the shitty smoke, and was weirded out by it, because it didn't fit the glossy render-y look of the rest of the game.
Great video!
Thanks!
I'm still waiting for someone to discover the chapel room that ended up in the USA-2 cartridge my friend found by accident. It looked like a church with benches and an alter, red carpet, peach windows on the walls, and a different music using the violin instrument used in the castle. I grabbed the controller demanding to know how he got there, and he said "I jumped in the picture of peach"... uuh ok. I left the room and it floated me down on the bridge in front of the castle. I spent years trying to figure out how and what he did, but no luck. No longer own the game, but wondering if anyone else had that second edition cartridge from 97 and found it?
The other differences in the game I can remember was being able to have a save file with zero stars, and the first bowser stage had a one of the blue stars on the ground for the red coin star, which was on top of the first brick platform above the swinging whatevers lol.
Please let me know if anyone has this version
You should post a video on that level you stated
how old were you when you saw it.
You probably dreamed that one. Although, if what you described ever gets discovered in the actual game, that would be _really_ stinkin' cool.
Winners don't do drugs... especially LSD
2 words...mandala effect.
The fix is actually as simple as changing 3 letters if you don't delete the 'A' that already exists. 😉😆
IA images displayed as RGBA kind of seem similar to jspaint.app gifs from the airbrush tool
damn, that's amazing.
It is a fact that Nintendo could've done better with his games back at the N64 era, like, so many things could've been done by that time, but didn't, and modders had to do instead, here are these two examples:
- SM64 Splitscreen Multiplayer. (what can I say? Nintendo was just proven wrong.)
- Expanded roster for Smash Bros. 64 (which needs an expansion pack if I'm not wrong, but that would've surely increased the expansion pack sales or something.)
And I'm also likely to be missing any other, but I think that was enough to prove my point, I can't believe that the modding community has fixed errors made by professional developers, smh Nintendo.
@@haha_hollie Ah, yeah, they do, but they could've got a control over that back then, if I'm not wrong.
@@haha_hollie Therefore, they could've took their time until it's perfected instead of announcing a date and have everyone to wait for that moment.
I mean, it's not wrong to have release dates, but that shouldn't be a thing that could get in the way.
I hold this judgement as unfair; many things modern mods do are only possible by abusing hardware quirks that were only discovered later.
@@berylliosis5250 Huh, that's a possibility, but it's most likely that it was still possible back then, yet harder.
Gotta admit you brought up a good point there, mate.
Honestly, I'm surprised I hadn't heard this from Pannenkoek first
because pannen covers important things
Maybe they left it in as they liked it.
I haven't checked yet, but I hope this is fixed in the PC port.
we should just fix every single bug in these old games for the lolz. I just imagine the zelda OOT without all of its nonsence.
Fixed on updated version. Which one? The 3DS?
Oh shit, that’s worth a sub.
the fixed version looks souless
the original was in my childhood therefore it has more soul so it is better
Congratulations, you've cursed me for life!
Did they fix it in the Japanese rumble pak release?
no, they haven't decompiled the Shindou edition yet so it's not available
xshobux you don’t have to decompile it just to see if it’s looks right
@@trapez77 oh, no it's still bugged.
Fantastic first someone fix most of the lag in the game and now this I hope someone fixes Hey You Pikachu 🙃
I mean, the start is to get a voice changer to make your voice an octave higher, since the game was only made for voices of children
I don't think you fixed it properly, if you look on the one at TCRF it's white and the transparency makes much more sense
You mean it is as simple as changing _three_ letters. You do not need to change the "A" at all. Technically, you change _one_ letter and remove two of them.
*(waits for obligatory "took it too seriously" comment)*
Good one
0:01 Boi there's something wrong with the eyes you forgot about this
My whole life is a lie
I always thought the smoke from Mario's ass looked kinda shitty...
There’s nothing wrong with the original but it’s cool that the source code is available to the public.
In mario 64 ds its normal?
i changed it in super mario 64 plus and it works
i like the first one better
And 3D All Stars did not fix it
Looks better the original way
W-what about Mario 64 DS?
and..... there is a Mario 64 PC port
And they didn't fix it in the remaster
I'm annoyed they didn't even bother to fix this in the switch remake lmao
Why didn't you just let the entire footage of the smoke play out? I'm triggered
Im gonna fix that in my romhack too i make with Decomp
When are they going to get to the fireworks factory....Milhouse....
Just show the clips and let them actually play no one cares how or why until they get a good look at it
Am I the only one who thinks the original looks fine? Almost looks a little bit better
Yeah, maybe it was an error but then let it like that on purpose
So cool
i thought that it was glitched lile that on purpose
How do you know that’s a mistake and not the chosen or preferred effect by the developers?
What's wrong with the fire texture? It looks good for me!
look at the smoke
@@d.m.9304, the smoke doesn't disturb me! 🤔
It doesn't have to disturb you, the programmers made a mistake in how it was rendered irregardless of preference
@@d.m.9304, the mistake that the programmers made still doesn't disturb me! 🤨 🤔 I don't care of the fire texture (smoke).
And I don't understand why most of the SM64 players think that this texture was a mistake. 🤔
tbh I prefer the original look
hey guy to do a tutorial on how to install smashremix on android?
My whole life is a lie!!!!
You are on the Nintendo Watchlist for exposing them
First
Damn. Can't believe that Nintendo would ever make a mistake like that, I thought they were cool but now I aint gonna buy any Nintendo game ever again knowing it's probably just gonna be one big mess made by a bunch of incompetent fools!