Dev actually said he purposely did shaky cam at the beginning of his character’s revenge arc because his fighting skills were not fully developed. Then later in the movie his character gains more strength and confidence in his fighting abilities the camera moves more eloquently with the action. Even some “shaky cam” moments showing pov shots of characters getting beat up or running through people were used strategically well to show the grimy dirty uncomfortable anxiety-driven moments of the character. Dammit I LOVED this fucking movie!
This is exactly what I was thinking when I watched the movie! Glad it was picked up on and intentional. The scenes at the beginning felt anxious and the character was clearly not prepared for the fights he was in
Yup I thought it was the shaky camera work in the beginnning was a metaphor for the fear and lack of confidence in his abilities to enact his revenge. It was like you were participating in the action from Dev’s perspective. Then once he goes through his almost mythological transformation the camera work becomes sleek and smooth just like his fighting style. The movie is an analogy of the myth they foretold at the beginning of the movie. Also the closeups really depict the atmosphere of the slums quite well. Slums are meant to be dirty, stuffy and filled with chaos. Like you can’t even breathe. Though the movie’s cinematic choices aren’t the most comfortable for those watching it 100% had a purpose.
i totally agree, i really thought the shaky cam added the film! like there is a scene where he gets hit by a car and then as he stands and run away the camera is VERY shaky, but like obviously that was meant to add to the disorientation that our main guy is feeling, and it definitely did that! i think when shaky cam is done purposely it can be really effective
I liked the shakey cam. He's an unfocussed fighter, injured and all over the place. It reminded me of Fight Club when the main character's mental state os falling apart. He heals, becomes stronger and more focussed and the filming reflects that. His movements are smoother, the camera work is smoother
5:02 The Chugs on the action sequence is by my band Bloodywood from our song Dana-dan, we are an Indian folk metal band and the growls are done by yours truly! So cool to get a pseudo shout out from you! :p
Just wanna say, there's no one else on the scene who sounds quite like you guys. Listened to Rakshak on repeat for a long while when I first discovered it, you're a brilliant vocalist mate🤘
Starring Dev Patel Produced By Dev Patel Story and Screenplay By Dev Patel Directed By Dev Patel So instead of waiting for Hollywood to cast him, he went straight to boss mode and decided to make his own action movie. What an amazing talent Patel has, I hope Monkey Man pushed his recognition even more
The shakey cam was due to reflect the characters growth and getting accustomed to pain. Once he starts to train and get a better grasp of his combat abilities, you notice the shakiness less and less. That’s the story point and reason. The hardware reason was that they brought their own recording equipment to India that consisted of phones and GoPros and then got access to heavier rigs much later into production.
A big reason for the shaky cam was also due to them filming on iPhones for scenes because of budget and lack of equipment. Was said in an interview with Dev Patel
I think the shaky cam in the beginning was primarily due to budget. They didn’t have the time or budget to choreograph all lesser fight scenes in the beginning. At one point Dev said they were kicked out of an India due to covid and had to film on a separate island which def added to the time crunch. This also explains why for the important fights the choreography is so good, because that’s where they pointed their efforts
Even the close up camera work we can say is an aesthetic thing but for at least the nightclub scenes, it was because they couldn’t afford the set. So they didn’t have things like table tops. So they would film only from the shoulders up to cover that
I also think it can somehow be a metaphor for how in the beginning he had no purpose and was just lost, but then he becomes calm and collected? might be a scretch
I just saw it and I felt like the chaos and close ups and shaky camera work in the beginning were to show how unskilled, and all over the place, and not sure of himself was. The camera is focused and steady and following it all at the end because he’s on another level. Just my opinion
@@Dubulclemovies cost too much now a days too form “your own opinion” sorry I can’t drop 10$ on every little time and then get 10$ popcorn Broski people don’t got it like that
I saw an article going over an interview with that Director of the show and it was mainly talking about how they were constantly running out of money and were having to use their own phones and GoPro‘s to film because of the lack of budget if any of the cameras or equipment they had broke they couldn’t really afford to get replacements and shipping would take too long and he continued to say that filming this movie was the hardest, nine months of his life so that’s probably why the camera work is so bad
The camera work isn't even "bad" though, the cinematography is great throughout the movie, and really is only really noticeable in 1 specific scene. The shaky cam was an intentional choice to show the characters growth throughout the movie, since after he trains and becomes more confident, there's a lot less shaky cam in the fights.
@@jeremiahbennett3004Can you give me a link to this interview? Cause I have tried looking this up myself & everyone is constantly bringing it up in these comments, but no one is actually linking to it so I’m starting to wonder if this was actually said anywhere.
Lots of people are explaining the shaky cam but very few are talking about the closeups I feel like I saw an interview where Dev Patel mentions the claustrophobia being deliberate, because that’s how the Mumbai-coded city feels. It’s important to establish that whether he’s in the ring, the kitchen, the penthouse, or even in VIP, everything feels claustrophobic, oppressive in a way where there isn’t enough air. It’s very clearly juxtaposed with 2 other locations that are no less filled with people: the temple of the Hijra and the jungle he grows up in. There are many people engaging with each other both in the city locations and in the temple/jungle but the latter ones are distinguished by the warmth and connection of people whereas the ones in the city are the proverbial crabs in a bucket
While I can see it being the case artistically, it's a personal choice I did not like. I wanted to see his action better on the latter half of the movie, where while its clear, its still sort of shaky and the closeup and quickcuts still make the action harder to see. I also felt like for a movie that was being thought out for 10 years, the social commentary was pretty tame and the main villain and side characters were not properly developed. If there is going to be a sequel tho, that definitely sets some plotlines
Probably the only movie that cleverly used a shaky cam was United 93. It worked there because it never felt distracting and made you feel like you were watching a documentary.
That director (Paul Greengrass) really is like the only director who actually knows how to use shaky cam IMO, he also directed the latter two Bourne films in the original trilogy and Captian Phillips and in all of those, shaky cam is used to basically make the viewer feel like they are almost a part of all of the action and to create a really immersive, documentary-like experience. Those movies show that shaky cam can actually be a really cool effect if done right, which unfortunately seems to be super rare.
@@michaelvessel4604 true true but also Doug started it as well in the Bourne identity. Here monkey man feels to clean to John wick. It doesn’t feel new or boundary pushing. Dunes fight scenes aren’t even shaky and they are amazing
Hearing what Dev had to go through for the his passion project sucks to read about but looking forward to catching this movie dude is a talent house with mad range.
@@jettlii5872js found another comment talking about that so I’ll paste it here for u ya this guy (Patel) broke his hand on first fight scene. halt entire production due to covid, had to waste 4-5 months in indian location that he had booked to shoot but doesn't get to shoot due to covid. he lost many of his crew, their demise did hold them back but more than that they were sad about losing them at first place, they had stunt crew of john wick before covid. dev had to find this indonesian stunt crew of just 4-5 people to work with in that limited budget. since he can't shoot in india, he had to put sets in indonesia and shoot. 255 people of crew was behind the operation at beginning but by the end there was only 40-60 people. man said he didn't had budget to even do small VFX shots so he entire relayed on practical effects. shakky cam happened because there weren't gimbals they were all hand held or camera attached to body. a camera can stablize some portion of it but that does loses some quality. he shot the rickshaw (3 wheeler cart) from an iphone. the budget was Tighter than my effing butthole man.. so i understand people who said they hate that camera shake but they just couldn't do anvthing about it he let it be the flaw
The shaky cam was well used. It didn’t seek to cover anything up like lots of shaky cam. And the close ups I think adds to the intensity. Like you can’t escape from the primary subject. It reminds me of the weird face close ups in mr robot
I noticed the switch from uncomfortable close ups/shake-y cam to the more classic fight scene camera as well - my theory is that this switch helps to show Kid’s (Dev Patel) state of mind throughout the film. At the start , even shots of his mom are super unclear, so close that you can’t really see her face. The fights are also filmed in a disorienting way, especially his first round against the police chief. But after he goes on his (metaphorical) trip and training montage, his purpose becomes clear and so does literal framing of everything he does after that .
i dont think a single person has said he's not a great actor ... so not sure how he's underrated. i think u mean to say how is he not more popular ... and the answer to that is, his movies before "Monkey Man" have been a little niche
@@rotcev1327 I think he’s underrated! I’ve never heard anyone say he’s not a good actor, but I feel like I haven’t heard enough people say he’s a great actor, which he is. I think he’s been appreciated but I don’t think he’s gotten the appreciation he deserves yet.
I am an indian-brit so i'm so exited for this, a part of my culture from a genre I love. I've never connected with bollywood cinema bar few so this really is something I am pretty passionate about
You'll appreciate the film as Patel is also a Brit-birn Indian so understands his roots & culture from both countries which is represented well in his work
I think the shaky cam for the first half was very intentional since his whole purpose led up to that first encounter. Once he grounds himself after his training he’s more sensible and controlled like the camerawork. I get it though wanting to actually be able to see sometimes haha
i also think that the shaky cam works in that the messiness brings an authenticity to the movie. it feels like you’re a bystander who’s witnessing this unfold in front of you. having people pass by you and ultimately becoming kind of hypnotic. i personally thought it worked.
Okay that was immediately what I thought of when Charlie said that. Sounded like a creative choice rather than some kind of production mistake. Silly Critikal.
This was my thought exactly, it brought a sense of panic to the whole first half, which makes sense because he just flubbed his chance at killing the guy he waited his whole life to kill due to him not really knowing what he’s doing, and then has the entire police force after him. It’s a chaotic sequence of events and the camera, while absolutely disorienting, absolutely encapsulates that whether intentionally or unintentionally
I was incredibly blown away by this film, and hearing about the production hell it went through makes me appreciate all the hard work and passion Dev poured into this thing even more
Yep. It’s not a good idea. As above as below was a good movie, but it’s impossible to watch without getting severe motion sickness. It’s sad. And ever since then I’ve been against shaky cam. Shout out to Gears of war for the roadie run using shaky cam appropriately and has been imitated but never recreated.
It was intentional is what Dev Patel told. It was to emulate the amateur fighting and the chaos that the character goes through in the beginning and as he gets proficient in fighting, the camera gets more grounded and stable to emulate the calm and growth the character has been through.
@@JoseMolina-jz9hhI meeeean As Above So Below is a found footage movie . All those movies from that genre have shaky cam but most ppl surprisingly don’t have an issue with it cuz it comes with the territory. I personally didn’t have an issue with the shaky cam in that movie .
“Monkey Man” is literally what my aunt used to always call. It wasn’t just me when I was acting silly or crazy, it was literally just her name for me every time she saw me. She passed away a decade ago from cancer and I still miss her, but seeing this movie and it’s title put a smile on my face because it reminded me of her.
After seeing the movie I have to say I disagree to an extent. I understand that the shaky cam isn't for you (not trying to say ur opinion is invalid because it is and multiple people feel the same as you) but it feels like the shaky cam in the start is a direct correlation to dev patels character being erratic and unpredictable, he's so enraptured by rage he doesn't care if his melee is unrestrained, whereas the camera work at the end shows that he's learned to control his movements and use his anger to guide his movements. Again your opinion is valid there could definitely be a way to do the camera work better, but for me I absolutely adores this film and I thought it was almost perfect
This is just my opinion but I think the shaky cam in the first half is due to devs character being an amateur fighter therefore to signify it the cam is very shaky.But in second half when he learns how to fight it becomes stable and the cam becomes smooth. Similar situation to across the spider verse
Of all of the things from the “Hey Arnold” series to pull from to make a feature length film of, second to “what happened to Arnold’s parents” which became the Jungle Movie, I’m extremely happy they decided to make a Bio flick of Monkey Man’s life, it might seem completely random, but it was one of the most asked questions from that series and I’m glad they had the courage to do it.
Monkey Man's ascendancy to aristocratic snobbery and pretension is what led to Sid getting jumped and robbed of his Beatle boots. "I for one think it's m-m-marvelously minimalistic and jejune."
What it sounds like, production scheduling problems. I haven't seen the movie yet, but based on what you're saying, If the later fight scenes were well made and the beginning scenes were shaky, they were probably in a biiiiiig rush to shoot those first scenes, and dedicated more rehearsal time and shoot time for the last fight scenes. Making movies is really freakin hard, and the fact that Dev Patel wrote, directed, and starred in this film is INSANE. Hats off to him, I saw him in Wes Anderson's short films on Netflix and love his performance.
shaky cam can definitely be attributed to the makeshift rig, i want to say in the fight ring they had a camera on a literal rope which was swung around with camera men circling in the crowd to catch it if it fell
I thought he was talking about that one TikTok dude who has beef with a monkey that’s called monkey man and his evil twin albino monkey man, that’s some good quality videos
While I haven't seen the movie yet, but the boys in Bloodywood revealed it. The Doom like music with chuggs and screams you are talking about is actually the Indian Folk Metal band Bloddywood. They revealed on IG that their song Dana Dan is featured in the movie. It is a song from their debut and independent album Rakshak that released 2 years ago. All their songs come with a social message, with the whole song structured around it, and Dana Dan is about SA, especially how big of a problem it is in India. Those boys blew up with their debut and they are really good, would defo recommend checking them out if anyone is even remotely interested. They also did extensive touring around that time till last year, just wishing they do a show near to me that I can visit, coz they rip it.
I feel like the kingsman shaky cam was pretty good. It still made the action scenes feel less stiff while giving a slight sense of immersion in the scene. I haven't seen em in a while, so I may be mistaken. But, what I remember seems good.
Kingsmen used the shaky cam in such a way that felt like there was momentum and weight to movement as we follow harry commit serial murder. Normally every other shaky cam is used in a way that’s hella disorienting and can’t fucking tell what’s going on
Agreed shakey cam settles out by the end. It makes sense knowing the backstory of the film production being so chaotic. As i was watching it i took it as though the action in the beginning is dev being inexperienced and hopped up on adrenaline in that scene which contrasts to the cool confident dev later in the film
I absolutely loved the wild camerawork during the action scenes. It added so much character and personality to the film and it made the fights feel more brutal and disorienting.
I haven’t seen the movie yet but I wonder if the choice to go from the shaky camera look to a more steady view by the end of the movie is a thematic choice that is in line with the narrative somehow. You’ll see some filmmakers sometimes use the camera to help illustrate different things the movie wants you to take away from it or understand.. even if subconsciously. Something somewhat similar to what I’m talking about is in the first animated Spider-Verse movie; Miles Morales is rendered in 12fps, much like the rest of the movie and many other animated movies - however, later in the movie when he fully taps into his abilities and is ready to face the ultimate challenge that lies ahead.. he is instead rendered at 16fps. It’s subtly done but this decision was made as a subtle, visual way to indicate that he understands his powers, their importance, and is ready and able to fully utilize them. He is indeed smoother with it at that point
This movie was amazing. This the only time I think Charlie is yapping of the tiny mistake when in all actuality the shaky cam was done well with intent.
i've taken a few professional film classes and i remember last year as soon as we got into camera work my teacher just said "you don't do shaky cam. sometimes it can work for specific scenarios, but no it doesn't"
The last 30 minutes (especially the elevator fight) smack Some of the editing towards the front half was little jarring though. I will say, I think the shaky cam followed by the good takes at the end are intentional (though that doesn't make it a good choice). I think the way the 30 minutes are shot highlight just how confident and in control he's become, while the shaky scenes show how out of his depth and rattled he is. Of course, it's still an eyesore
I just came home from Monkey Man and it may not be perfect but I liked it a lot! It's a phenomenal directorial debut and I can't wait to see what else Dev Patel brings to the big screen, both as an actor and a director! He proved he definitely has the chops to be an action movie star! I agree with a lot of what Charlie is saying about the chaotic camerawork, especially in the first half of the film, but I feel like it was a deliberate stylistic choice. Without spoiling anything, the movie is basically split into two halves -- a before and an after, linked together by a training montage. In a way I feel like the shaky cam in the first half was before, and the more steady camera work was a good way of showing the character's progression after an incident that happens halfway through the film. It's an interesting movie and I really hope it does well at the box office because this is heat!
If i remember correctly from some of the press stuff. there was a lot of production issues where their equipment didnt arrive or broke and they had to rely on making iphones to film at least a portion of production. so the shakey cam could be a result for those limitations
Even if the film is genuinely good I still just can’t keep a straight face if someone asks *”who are you?”* And their response is *”I’m Monkey Man.”* 💀💀
I wanna say the change from shaky cam to steady was actually on purpose. Shows the growth of the character before and after his training, I personally loved that visual storytelling
2:04 i get why people have issue with shaky cam. but here is the thing, this guy broke his hand on first fight scene. halt entire production due to covid, had to waste 4-5 months in indian location that he had booked to shoot but doesn't get to shoot due to covid. he lost many of his crew, their demise did hold them back but more than that they were sad about losing them at first place, they had stunt crew of john wick before covid. dev had to find this indonesian stunt crew of just 4-5 people to work with in that limited budget. since he can't shoot in india, he had to put sets in indonesia and shoot. 255 people of crew was behind the operation at beginning but by the end there was only 40-60 people. man said he didn't had budget to even do small VFX shots so he entire relayed on practical effects. shakky cam happened because there weren't gimbals they were all hand held or camera attached to body. a camera can stablize some portion of it but that does loses some quality. he shot the rickshaw (3 wheeler cart) from an iphone. the budget was Tighter than my effing butthole man.... 😂 so i understand people who said they hate that camera shake but they just couldn't do anything about it but let it be the flaw.
I actually liked the "shaky cam", it adds to the experience. The sloppy camera work showed the desperation of survival at times, the reason the camera work got better towards the end is because Dev was stronger, smarter and better (he became Homelander). The blurry fight scenes added an effect of realism as well. I think the cinematography tied in perfectly with character development and storytelling.
At least from this description, it sounds like this movie did take some inspiration from 'Hardcore Henry' . In the way the camera moves, it seems like it's an attempt to put the viewer "into" the scene. However they seem to forget, that only really works in 1st person POV
"Its what I imagine getting a concussion must feel like when youre first coming to and getting reacclimated to the world around you." Yes thats the point
shaky cam gradually decreases throughout the movie as he gets better at fighting
yeah it’s literally on purpose and it’s direct inspiration from irreversible
Yeah exactly, better at fighting and getting a better understanding of himself. As a visual language, I say it worked
too bad the choreography doesnt get better, average shitty hollywood "fight" scenes
@@AdolfHitler-lk4voignoring your username, did you watch the movie?
@@clerklymantis4661Fr, the choreography was actually amazing dude
Dev actually said he purposely did shaky cam at the beginning of his character’s revenge arc because his fighting skills were not fully developed. Then later in the movie his character gains more strength and confidence in his fighting abilities the camera moves more eloquently with the action. Even some “shaky cam” moments showing pov shots of characters getting beat up or running through people were used strategically well to show the grimy dirty uncomfortable anxiety-driven moments of the character. Dammit I LOVED this fucking movie!
This is exactly what I was thinking when I watched the movie! Glad it was picked up on and intentional. The scenes at the beginning felt anxious and the character was clearly not prepared for the fights he was in
Yup I thought it was the shaky camera work in the beginnning was a metaphor for the fear and lack of confidence in his abilities to enact his revenge. It was like you were participating in the action from Dev’s perspective. Then once he goes through his almost mythological transformation the camera work becomes sleek and smooth just like his fighting style. The movie is an analogy of the myth they foretold at the beginning of the movie. Also the closeups really depict the atmosphere of the slums quite well. Slums are meant to be dirty, stuffy and filled with chaos. Like you can’t even breathe. Though the movie’s cinematic choices aren’t the most comfortable for those watching it 100% had a purpose.
i totally agree, i really thought the shaky cam added the film! like there is a scene where he gets hit by a car and then as he stands and run away the camera is VERY shaky, but like obviously that was meant to add to the disorientation that our main guy is feeling, and it definitely did that! i think when shaky cam is done purposely it can be really effective
Definitely not the case since it was shakiest during the penultimate fight against Rana Singh.
I did not get that at all@@SweetZombiJesus
I liked the shakey cam. He's an unfocussed fighter, injured and all over the place. It reminded me of Fight Club when the main character's mental state os falling apart. He heals, becomes stronger and more focussed and the filming reflects that. His movements are smoother, the camera work is smoother
exactly broo. I felt like i was watching indian fight club
Same here, I thought it was a deliberate creative choice
@@KingCrimson244true
I was fr going to comment the same thing, it reflected the purpose behind his fighting beautifully
I noticed that as well.
Thought it was about me 😔
so sorry monkey man... one day...
One day monkey man,one day
Sorry king maybe Chuck Jr. will give u ur time to shine someday
@@jamespeterson4275someday,but not today sadly 😔
Silly McGillicuddy 😭
Hollywood: Write that down!
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@@jarvisbeatzSILENCE!!
Can we all agree to refer to him as McGillicuddy now
It’s actually spelled “McGillicudi”. 🤓
huge respect for Dev, he really did a Hollywood solo-run and brought this into existence because he knew it was worth it
Tf up bum 😹😹
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
A great movie ruined by shakey cam.
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21shut yo ahh up 😹
U didn't watch the first 5 mins of this video
Thanks for mentioning the metal track! It’s our track called Dana Dan. Glad you liked it!!
Thank you, my girlfriend tried to Shazam it mid movie but failed, your song is amazing
Should’ve been a longer clip I love all the songs on the Rakshak album
I am such a fan of your music!!
Ok, now I have to watch this movie
Your track rocked in this movie, it brought the right feel to the scene. Great work.
5:02 The Chugs on the action sequence is by my band Bloodywood from our song Dana-dan, we are an Indian folk metal band and the growls are done by yours truly!
So cool to get a pseudo shout out from you! :p
holy shit bloodywood in monkey man
Nice dude, congratulations. Hope you got paid for it!
Just wanna say, there's no one else on the scene who sounds quite like you guys. Listened to Rakshak on repeat for a long while when I first discovered it, you're a brilliant vocalist mate🤘
You just singlehandedly convinced me to go see this movie. Been jamming you guys' CD in my car for weeks. You guys rock! ❤🤘
@@gageporter4891 bro I fucking love Bloodywood, thank you for your art
Starring Dev Patel
Produced By Dev Patel
Story and Screenplay By Dev Patel
Directed By Dev Patel
So instead of waiting for Hollywood to cast him, he went straight to boss mode and decided to make his own action movie. What an amazing talent Patel has, I hope Monkey Man pushed his recognition even more
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@@howtoeverything100no one support this person, he is a bot
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@Ronniemcfloyd.this guy stinks!
Imma do my own thing
My mother didn't call me a monkey man
she called me a disappointment
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At least your mom wanted you around...
My dad didn't call me a monkey man
He didn't call me a disappointment
He called me turd mcfurgison
No @@jarvisbeatz
Well that was a punchline I wasn’t expecting.
The shakey cam was due to reflect the characters growth and getting accustomed to pain. Once he starts to train and get a better grasp of his combat abilities, you notice the shakiness less and less. That’s the story point and reason. The hardware reason was that they brought their own recording equipment to India that consisted of phones and GoPros and then got access to heavier rigs much later into production.
A big reason for the shaky cam was also due to them filming on iPhones for scenes because of budget and lack of equipment. Was said in an interview with Dev Patel
Thank you Jordan Peele for saving this movie from Streaming jail 😭
Say something about gaza who cares about Jordan Peele
@@ARealMensch00 real
@@ARealMensch00who cares about gaza
This video isn't about Gaza@ARealMensch00
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
7/10 Not enough Monkey, too much man.
Might you consider Godzilla x Kong. Much Monke, less lizard.
lol
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 u got a bf?
@@theforsakeen-9014ain’t no way bruh, she too strong for you
Man?????? Am I stupid???
I thought that was literally the point. He’s not a good fighter at the beginning and then the camera work gets smoother as he gets better.
It is, it's just a shit take by charlie.
Ot it's just a shitty choice from the movie
@@CosmicAmato Or nuance is lost on your ass.
@@CosmicAmatoMatter of preference at this point
Damn I loved the camera work. The switch to POV were some of my favorite parts.
I think the shaky cam in the beginning was primarily due to budget. They didn’t have the time or budget to choreograph all lesser fight scenes in the beginning. At one point Dev said they were kicked out of an India due to covid and had to film on a separate island which def added to the time crunch. This also explains why for the important fights the choreography is so good, because that’s where they pointed their efforts
Even the close up camera work we can say is an aesthetic thing but for at least the nightclub scenes, it was because they couldn’t afford the set. So they didn’t have things like table tops. So they would film only from the shoulders up to cover that
kicked ?
also because dev patel said it was supposed to showcase the protagonist going from someone who didn't know how to fight to someone who was confident.
I also think it can somehow be a metaphor for how in the beginning he had no purpose and was just lost, but then he becomes calm and collected? might be a scretch
@@astronada not a stretch prolly he said it was intentional
The way the trailer is Choreographed to the music *chefs kiss*
Righttt it ONLY got my interest bc they used the stereotypical indian music lmao, funny asf
I just saw it and I felt like the chaos and close ups and shaky camera work in the beginning were to show how unskilled, and all over the place, and not sure of himself was. The camera is focused and steady and following it all at the end because he’s on another level. Just my opinion
1:30 “it hits more than it misses…the action is extraordinary,” thanks. That’s all I needed to hear 👍🏽
Form your own opinion?
@@Dubulcle foreally!11!!
@@Dubulcle yea, for sure. I was more so talking about in terms of his review.
@@Dubulclemovies cost too much now a days too form “your own opinion” sorry I can’t drop 10$ on every little time and then get 10$ popcorn Broski people don’t got it like that
You know its goin to be good when Silly Micgillicuddy starts off excited
Please explain the joke I'm seeing it everywhere now.
@@Mrcryalotliterally watch the video dude. He says it in like the first 10 seconds
@@420_blaise_it6 wasn't focusing sorry.
@@Mrcryalot focus up u got this👊
MY GARLIC IS BETTER THAN CHARLES GARLIC🧄🧄🧄 I hate onions
I saw an article going over an interview with that Director of the show and it was mainly talking about how they were constantly running out of money and were having to use their own phones and GoPro‘s to film because of the lack of budget if any of the cameras or equipment they had broke they couldn’t really afford to get replacements and shipping would take too long and he continued to say that filming this movie was the hardest, nine months of his life so that’s probably why the camera work is so bad
Also, Don't forget about how COVID hit the production
A movie filmed with a GoPro? That's wild but I like it 😄
The camera work isn't even "bad" though, the cinematography is great throughout the movie, and really is only really noticeable in 1 specific scene. The shaky cam was an intentional choice to show the characters growth throughout the movie, since after he trains and becomes more confident, there's a lot less shaky cam in the fights.
@@jeremiahbennett3004Can you give me a link to this interview? Cause I have tried looking this up myself & everyone is constantly bringing it up in these comments, but no one is actually linking to it so I’m starting to wonder if this was actually said anywhere.
Lots of people are explaining the shaky cam but very few are talking about the closeups
I feel like I saw an interview where Dev Patel mentions the claustrophobia being deliberate, because that’s how the Mumbai-coded city feels. It’s important to establish that whether he’s in the ring, the kitchen, the penthouse, or even in VIP, everything feels claustrophobic, oppressive in a way where there isn’t enough air.
It’s very clearly juxtaposed with 2 other locations that are no less filled with people: the temple of the Hijra and the jungle he grows up in. There are many people engaging with each other both in the city locations and in the temple/jungle but the latter ones are distinguished by the warmth and connection of people whereas the ones in the city are the proverbial crabs in a bucket
While I can see it being the case artistically, it's a personal choice I did not like. I wanted to see his action better on the latter half of the movie, where while its clear, its still sort of shaky and the closeup and quickcuts still make the action harder to see.
I also felt like for a movie that was being thought out for 10 years, the social commentary was pretty tame and the main villain and side characters were not properly developed. If there is going to be a sequel tho, that definitely sets some plotlines
I believe the point is that the shaky cam represents his lack of purpose and disconnection to the “roots” of the problem
Probably the only movie that cleverly used a shaky cam was United 93. It worked there because it never felt distracting and made you feel like you were watching a documentary.
Or the first 3 Bourne movies.
That director (Paul Greengrass) really is like the only director who actually knows how to use shaky cam IMO, he also directed the latter two Bourne films in the original trilogy and Captian Phillips and in all of those, shaky cam is used to basically make the viewer feel like they are almost a part of all of the action and to create a really immersive, documentary-like experience. Those movies show that shaky cam can actually be a really cool effect if done right, which unfortunately seems to be super rare.
@@michaelvessel4604 true true but also Doug started it as well in the Bourne identity. Here monkey man feels to clean to John wick. It doesn’t feel new or boundary pushing. Dunes fight scenes aren’t even shaky and they are amazing
That's not what a plane crash is like.
@@Zenigundam never said it was
Hearing what Dev had to go through for the his passion project sucks to read about but looking forward to catching this movie dude is a talent house with mad range.
Charlie glazer alert 😹
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 dont lie to yourself
care to elaborate? am curious and too lazy to sift through articles to get the summary of what he had to endure to get his movie released.
@@jettlii5872js found another comment talking about that so I’ll paste it here for u ya
this guy (Patel) broke his hand on first fight scene. halt entire production due to covid, had to waste 4-5 months in indian location that he had booked to shoot but doesn't get to shoot due to covid. he lost many of his crew, their demise did hold them back but more than that they were sad about losing them at first place, they had stunt crew of john wick before covid. dev had to find this indonesian stunt crew of just 4-5 people to work with in that limited budget. since he can't shoot in india, he had to put sets in indonesia and shoot. 255 people of crew was behind the operation at beginning but by the end there was only 40-60 people. man said he didn't had budget to even do small VFX shots so he entire relayed on practical effects.
shakky cam happened because there weren't gimbals they were all hand held or camera attached to body. a camera can stablize some portion of it but that does loses some quality.
he shot the rickshaw (3 wheeler cart) from an iphone. the budget was Tighter than my effing butthole man..
so i understand people who said they hate that camera shake but they just couldn't do anvthing about it he let it be the flaw
For some reason, I just don't trust Indian directors. They always have really weird perspectives, like that M. Night Shamalon fellow.
The shaky cam was well used. It didn’t seek to cover anything up like lots of shaky cam. And the close ups I think adds to the intensity. Like you can’t escape from the primary subject. It reminds me of the weird face close ups in mr robot
I noticed the switch from uncomfortable close ups/shake-y cam to the more classic fight scene camera as well - my theory is that this switch helps to show Kid’s (Dev Patel) state of mind throughout the film.
At the start , even shots of his mom are super unclear, so close that you can’t really see her face. The fights are also filmed in a disorienting way, especially his first round against the police chief.
But after he goes on his (metaphorical) trip and training montage, his purpose becomes clear and so does literal framing of everything he does after that .
I’m shocked nobody talks about Dev Patel being the most underrated actor.
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@@jaya7043like ur mom
i dont think a single person has said he's not a great actor ... so not sure how he's underrated. i think u mean to say how is he not more popular ... and the answer to that is, his movies before "Monkey Man" have been a little niche
@@rotcev1327 he's Oscar nominated actor so your opinion is invalid
@@rotcev1327 I think he’s underrated! I’ve never heard anyone say he’s not a good actor, but I feel like I haven’t heard enough people say he’s a great actor, which he is. I think he’s been appreciated but I don’t think he’s gotten the appreciation he deserves yet.
I loved Dev Patel in Slumdog Millionaire. I'm really glad this movie got released to theatres.
🤧@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21
Same with Lion and Hotel Mumbai. The two that made me really appreciate him.
I loved Dev Patel in The Last Airbender. I'm really glad this movie got released to theaters.
Watch lion, literally one of the best movies ever..
Jesus loves you
I am an indian-brit so i'm so exited for this, a part of my culture from a genre I love. I've never connected with bollywood cinema bar few so this really is something I am pretty passionate about
Yeah same, born and raised in London with Indian features, no one knows where to place me lol
You'll appreciate the film as Patel is also a Brit-birn Indian so understands his roots & culture from both countries which is represented well in his work
I love the shaky cam it adds to the film the way it should
Dev Patel is a LEGEND. I hope too see him in more projects after this
He's not a legend. Yet. He still have a long way to go
The elevator fight scene in this film is so creative.
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भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु..
Not really u just have bad taste lmaooo😹
@@AttentionSeeker69-nah youre the one with bad taste
@@yelitzaacevedo9145 u crying rn?
Am i literally the only man alive who by god folks likes shakey cam??
Nah im 100% with you. Loved the shaky cam, loved the pov shots. Made me feel just as disoriented as he was 😭
@@briya7077 Same here, they were amazing.
Yeahh I tend to bop around my head with the camera, gets me more immersed.
the shaky cam is actually very intentional for the movie and as the main character gets better at fighting, it slows down.
I think the shaky cam for the first half was very intentional since his whole purpose led up to that first encounter. Once he grounds himself after his training he’s more sensible and controlled like the camerawork. I get it though wanting to actually be able to see sometimes haha
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 Crazy how no one asked
i also think that the shaky cam works in that the messiness brings an authenticity to the movie. it feels like you’re a bystander who’s witnessing this unfold in front of you. having people pass by you and ultimately becoming kind of hypnotic. i personally thought it worked.
Okay that was immediately what I thought of when Charlie said that. Sounded like a creative choice rather than some kind of production mistake. Silly Critikal.
This was my thought exactly, it brought a sense of panic to the whole first half, which makes sense because he just flubbed his chance at killing the guy he waited his whole life to kill due to him not really knowing what he’s doing, and then has the entire police force after him. It’s a chaotic sequence of events and the camera, while absolutely disorienting, absolutely encapsulates that whether intentionally or unintentionally
@R3___114 it's a spam bot. Report and ignore. Interacting only helps them
I was incredibly blown away by this film, and hearing about the production hell it went through makes me appreciate all the hard work and passion Dev poured into this thing even more
If the shaky cam is really that bad, I can except someone do a "Monkey Man Action but the camera is stable" edit
It's not.
I feel like the shaky cam stuff was kind of like a symbolic gesture as it pretty much disappears after the training montage
As soon as you said shaky cam, it immediately brought sadness to my soul.
Yep. It’s not a good idea. As above as below was a good movie, but it’s impossible to watch without getting severe motion sickness. It’s sad. And ever since then I’ve been against shaky cam. Shout out to Gears of war for the roadie run using shaky cam appropriately and has been imitated but never recreated.
It was intentional is what Dev Patel told. It was to emulate the amateur fighting and the chaos that the character goes through in the beginning and as he gets proficient in fighting, the camera gets more grounded and stable to emulate the calm and growth the character has been through.
@@JoseMolina-jz9hhit’s a found footage movie tho it’s expected this movie is not
@@nepxtreme I've seen it and I can confirm, you can still easily tell whats happening since they don't cut every second
@@JoseMolina-jz9hhI meeeean As Above So Below is a found footage movie . All those movies from that genre have shaky cam but most ppl surprisingly don’t have an issue with it cuz it comes with the territory. I personally didn’t have an issue with the shaky cam in that movie .
“Monkey Man” is literally what my aunt used to always call. It wasn’t just me when I was acting silly or crazy, it was literally just her name for me every time she saw me. She passed away a decade ago from cancer and I still miss her, but seeing this movie and it’s title put a smile on my face because it reminded me of her.
Rip man sad to hear that
I thought that was the homeless dude from Hey Arnold with the cape.
@@Kaijuchainsaw63 thank you, appreciate that.
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the mini training arc was so cool with the drums man
After seeing the movie I have to say I disagree to an extent. I understand that the shaky cam isn't for you (not trying to say ur opinion is invalid because it is and multiple people feel the same as you) but it feels like the shaky cam in the start is a direct correlation to dev patels character being erratic and unpredictable, he's so enraptured by rage he doesn't care if his melee is unrestrained, whereas the camera work at the end shows that he's learned to control his movements and use his anger to guide his movements. Again your opinion is valid there could definitely be a way to do the camera work better, but for me I absolutely adores this film and I thought it was almost perfect
This is just my opinion but I think the shaky cam in the first half is due to devs character being an amateur fighter therefore to signify it the cam is very shaky.But in second half when he learns how to fight it becomes stable and the cam becomes smooth. Similar situation to across the spider verse
You know it’s about to be a banger when he’s excited
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Glazer 😹
@@AttentionSeeker69- your name is literally Attention Seeker
@@ShadowAurum tf up 😹😹😹😹😹
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That sucks, I can't watch "shaky cam" movies in the theater because I always get motion sick.
Looking extra studious with notes today
the comedy gold of getting an ad RIGHT as he says "it completely interrupts" then boom ad XD
Of all of the things from the “Hey Arnold” series to pull from to make a feature length film of, second to “what happened to Arnold’s parents” which became the Jungle Movie, I’m extremely happy they decided to make a Bio flick of Monkey Man’s life, it might seem completely random, but it was one of the most asked questions from that series and I’m glad they had the courage to do it.
MONKEY MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.
Now we need a movie about Pigeon Man and Stoop Kid.
Monkey Man's ascendancy to aristocratic snobbery and pretension is what led to Sid getting jumped and robbed of his Beatle boots.
"I for one think it's m-m-marvelously minimalistic and jejune."
*OH HOLY SHIT THIS ACTUALLY WAS ABOUT THE HEY ARNOLD CHARACTER*
@@kitsunekage12 .......Wait what I'm joking about it-
@@UltimaKeyMasterBird man is pretty close
ive seen the trailer ad at least 200 times in the last week
Such a great film honestly. A definite must-watch
Dude just quoted the GOAT of movie reviewers - JEREMY JAHNS - on the claustrophobic thing 4:06
3 uploads in one day?? we eaten good
Cool Story, Bro.
gen alpha's grammar gets worse by the day 🤦♂️
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@@h_elyzaWhy Do You Like Flabby Balls So Much?
What it sounds like, production scheduling problems. I haven't seen the movie yet, but based on what you're saying, If the later fight scenes were well made and the beginning scenes were shaky, they were probably in a biiiiiig rush to shoot those first scenes, and dedicated more rehearsal time and shoot time for the last fight scenes.
Making movies is really freakin hard, and the fact that Dev Patel wrote, directed, and starred in this film is INSANE. Hats off to him, I saw him in Wes Anderson's short films on Netflix and love his performance.
when the song from bloodywood kicked in for the final fight scene the adrenaline pumped.
shaky cam can definitely be attributed to the makeshift rig, i want to say in the fight ring they had a camera on a literal rope which was swung around with camera men circling in the crowd to catch it if it fell
I thought he was talking about that one TikTok dude who has beef with a monkey that’s called monkey man and his evil twin albino monkey man, that’s some good quality videos
Peter Caine dog training?
@@Champion919Gamesyup
babyman dresses wack but is a good athlete
@Ronniemcfloyd. Pls Don't use My Land's Ancient language for such clickbait , it is not a good thing
Babymannnn
for a directorial debut, it's so good.
loved the way Firefly used scrappy looking camera work in its spaceship combat
While I haven't seen the movie yet, but the boys in Bloodywood revealed it. The Doom like music with chuggs and screams you are talking about is actually the Indian Folk Metal band Bloddywood. They revealed on IG that their song Dana Dan is featured in the movie. It is a song from their debut and independent album Rakshak that released 2 years ago. All their songs come with a social message, with the whole song structured around it, and Dana Dan is about SA, especially how big of a problem it is in India. Those boys blew up with their debut and they are really good, would defo recommend checking them out if anyone is even remotely interested. They also did extensive touring around that time till last year, just wishing they do a show near to me that I can visit, coz they rip it.
I feel like the kingsman shaky cam was pretty good. It still made the action scenes feel less stiff while giving a slight sense of immersion in the scene. I haven't seen em in a while, so I may be mistaken. But, what I remember seems good.
Kingsmen used the shaky cam in such a way that felt like there was momentum and weight to movement as we follow harry commit serial murder. Normally every other shaky cam is used in a way that’s hella disorienting and can’t fucking tell what’s going on
Agreed shakey cam settles out by the end. It makes sense knowing the backstory of the film production being so chaotic. As i was watching it i took it as though the action in the beginning is dev being inexperienced and hopped up on adrenaline in that scene which contrasts to the cool confident dev later in the film
I absolutely loved the wild camerawork during the action scenes. It added so much character and personality to the film and it made the fights feel more brutal and disorienting.
monke doesn't wear any pants
Monke does the sexiest of dance
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'Me and my monke!'
I haven’t seen the movie yet but I wonder if the choice to go from the shaky camera look to a more steady view by the end of the movie is a thematic choice that is in line with the narrative somehow. You’ll see some filmmakers sometimes use the camera to help illustrate different things the movie wants you to take away from it or understand.. even if subconsciously. Something somewhat similar to what I’m talking about is in the first animated Spider-Verse movie; Miles Morales is rendered in 12fps, much like the rest of the movie and many other animated movies - however, later in the movie when he fully taps into his abilities and is ready to face the ultimate challenge that lies ahead.. he is instead rendered at 16fps. It’s subtly done but this decision was made as a subtle, visual way to indicate that he understands his powers, their importance, and is ready and able to fully utilize them. He is indeed smoother with it at that point
This is exactly what it is 👆
it was a budget problem, nice theory tho
@@malliemaile6746why not both, a restraint set by budget that happens to work in a thematic sense
Looking forward to your directorial debut.
This movie was amazing. This the only time I think Charlie is yapping of the tiny mistake when in all actuality the shaky cam was done well with intent.
The camera work in this movie is the equivalent to The Weekend’s 2021 Super Bowl half time show
* the weeknd not weekend
@mohammedazzan7529 Thats some disgusting meat munching😂😂😂😂
Charlie saying he likes Revenge Movies further goes to show that he is Keanu Reeves, and even better, in his John Wick form.
I liked there was a break with the commune and it gave us time to calm down for a bit.
luckily shakey cam never really bothered me so I'm excited to see this.
i've taken a few professional film classes and i remember last year as soon as we got into camera work my teacher just said "you don't do shaky cam. sometimes it can work for specific scenarios, but no it doesn't"
I think this time it's because they had budget issues
@@samhunt6300The Raid proved budget is no excuse.
The last 30 minutes (especially the elevator fight) smack
Some of the editing towards the front half was little jarring though.
I will say, I think the shaky cam followed by the good takes at the end are intentional (though that doesn't make it a good choice). I think the way the 30 minutes are shot highlight just how confident and in control he's become, while the shaky scenes show how out of his depth and rattled he is. Of course, it's still an eyesore
That is honestly what I was thinking, he is taking full control hence he is calmer. Seeing it tomorrow I’m really excited I can’t wait
Exactly what I was thinking, but it makes me want the to skip the first 1,5h if I watch it again.
I just came home from Monkey Man and it may not be perfect but I liked it a lot! It's a phenomenal directorial debut and I can't wait to see what else Dev Patel brings to the big screen, both as an actor and a director! He proved he definitely has the chops to be an action movie star! I agree with a lot of what Charlie is saying about the chaotic camerawork, especially in the first half of the film, but I feel like it was a deliberate stylistic choice. Without spoiling anything, the movie is basically split into two halves -- a before and an after, linked together by a training montage. In a way I feel like the shaky cam in the first half was before, and the more steady camera work was a good way of showing the character's progression after an incident that happens halfway through the film. It's an interesting movie and I really hope it does well at the box office because this is heat!
The shaky camera is also a masterpiece too....
Your videos calm me down. Thanks.
You can’t blame them for holding the camera with one hand, they were VERY excited to film the great Ape Man.
Bruh that scene when he returned to the arena was AWESOME
If i remember correctly from some of the press stuff. there was a lot of production issues where their equipment didnt arrive or broke and they had to rely on making iphones to film at least a portion of production. so the shakey cam could be a result for those limitations
Even if the film is genuinely good I still just can’t keep a straight face if someone asks *”who are you?”* And their response is *”I’m Monkey Man.”* 💀💀
Is it REALLY any weirder than "I'm Batman"?
It’s stupid
@@warriorscholar41 yes
doesnt say that, and the backstory is dope so it works.
thanks for the information
Saw it last night. Completely agree about the camerawork
I wanna say the change from shaky cam to steady was actually on purpose. Shows the growth of the character before and after his training, I personally loved that visual storytelling
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i get why people have issue with shaky cam. but here is the thing, this guy broke his hand on first fight scene. halt entire production due to covid, had to waste 4-5 months in indian location that he had booked to shoot but doesn't get to shoot due to covid. he lost many of his crew, their demise did hold them back but more than that they were sad about losing them at first place, they had stunt crew of john wick before covid. dev had to find this indonesian stunt crew of just 4-5 people to work with in that limited budget. since he can't shoot in india, he had to put sets in indonesia and shoot. 255 people of crew was behind the operation at beginning but by the end there was only 40-60 people. man said he didn't had budget to even do small VFX shots so he entire relayed on practical effects.
shakky cam happened because there weren't gimbals they were all hand held or camera attached to body. a camera can stablize some portion of it but that does loses some quality.
he shot the rickshaw (3 wheeler cart) from an iphone. the budget was Tighter than my effing butthole man.... 😂
so i understand people who said they hate that camera shake but they just couldn't do anything about it but let it be the flaw.
...bye
I was skeptical now I must know
Any movie titled "Monkey Man" is reasonably benefited from some skepticism.
This movie is politicised crap John Wick's copy
I think the shaky cam is used to show how unskilled the main character is and purposefully gets better once he gets his shit together
Completely agree
I actually liked the "shaky cam", it adds to the experience. The sloppy camera work showed the desperation of survival at times, the reason the camera work got better towards the end is because Dev was stronger, smarter and better (he became Homelander). The blurry fight scenes added an effect of realism as well. I think the cinematography tied in perfectly with character development and storytelling.
Just saw it today and was a huge fan. I didn’t really notice the shaky cam.
At least from this description, it sounds like this movie did take some inspiration from 'Hardcore Henry' . In the way the camera moves, it seems like it's an attempt to put the viewer "into" the scene. However they seem to forget, that only really works in 1st person POV
i was listening to MisterMonkeyMan - Brainbite while you uploaded this lol i thought it was about him
This is the greatest monkey man of All Time
Nah , Hanuman is . PS I am a hindu
This movie is a budget, politicised John Wick's copy
“Oh God, I worship you” ❤️
Got my hopes up that this was a movie version of the Traveling Wilburys song.
I saw the title and I thought he was going to talk about Goku :(
he would just put “goku” or “dragon ball”
Goku is inspired by sun wukong who is inspired by hindu god Hanuman, and Monkey man is also inspired by Hanuman:)
Let's gooo i been waiting for this one. Charlie please do a moist meter on this as well
You didn't watch the video 😂
@@CarpeNutella ye i just finished and I see 😂😂
Cant wait to watch this and I'm excited to see what else Dev is gonna do.
"Its what I imagine getting a concussion must feel like when youre first coming to and getting reacclimated to the world around you." Yes thats the point
I wonder when the sequel Man Monkey will come out