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- David Mitchell explains the difference between eating at home and fine dining.
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Graham is joined by Kylie Minogue, Stephen Graham, David Mitchell, Mawaan Rizwan. With music from Mae Muller, performing her single Me, Myself & I.
Together on Graham’s sofa this week: queen of pop Kylie Minogue, promoting her latest album Tension, brilliant actor Stephen Graham, whose acclaimed one-take restaurant-kitchen drama Boiling Point now continues as a BBC series, actor and writer David Mitchell, talking about his new history of British royalty, Unruly, comedian Mawaan Rizwan, star and creator of surreal sitcom Juice, and music from singer-songwriter Mae Muller, who performs her current single Me, Myself & I.
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David Mitchell had a rant for everything and I have popcorn for every. single. one.
😅 SAME
John Finnemore explained that their preparation for David Mitchell's soap box was to take David out for a drink and John wrote down everything David said. They'd have a script with minimal edits 😂😂
Definitely agreed
Well don’t make him sound dead, with your past tense!
@@maxducoudraymore like my past typo! May he live forever lol
David Mitchell is a national treasure. Not from my nation, but still a national treasure.
Agree. In my nation, we have the Kardashians. I mean…..it’s so utterly embarrassing. The UK has David Mitchell, Lee Mack, Alan Davies, Greg Davies, Ben Miller, Anthony Hopkins, Kenneth Branagh, Gary Oldman, Michael Sheen, David Tennet, Judi Dench, Stephen Fry, Hugh Laurie, Maggie Smith…..the list is impressively long for a rather tiny place. I mean, even the six idiots are national treasures. We have…..the Kardashians. I don’t get the appeal. Tom Cruise….yeah…no. Ummm…..Snoop Dog but ya know, rap not really acting. Ummmm…..oh, Tom Hanks, Morgan Freeman and Johnny Depp. Just not sure they make up for us fobbing the Kardashians off on the world.
international treasure maybe. I agree though
@@WyattRyeSwayLMAO stop it. We have plenty of great Americans.
Can I just say, I'm German and even I view David Mitchell and Stephen Fry as national treasures.
A global treasure.
Every Mitchell rant is gold
He could easily be talking about the US. I live in Seattle and every fancy restaurant wants to think Frasier the character might show up there that day.
And we eat like pigs for the other 99% (not you personally, but we as a nation). Maybe 99.98%
Aayo Seattle here too
Do the hostesses always have a pair of scissors handy?
@@neuvocastezero1838 The potatoes have fix ins!
I ❤ David Mitchell
"Mr. Neelix, I prefer not to hear the life history of my breakfast."
I'm only going to say it once. Coffee. Black
@@AdmiralJaneway74656 I thought you only drank tea now??
@@xethlorien4736 only when the Doctor (or Chakotay) is watching. So pssst🤫 please don't tell them
David's right, in general as a nation we don't value food the way the French or Italians do, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Sadly since the 50s we've been demanding cheap food at the expense of quality, so now what was reasonable quality food, albeit plain, is now full of artificial crap, sugar and fat.
As for those who are OK spending £100 for a meal that wouldn't fill a toddler, go for it. If you've got money to waste, waste it upon whatever takes your fancy.
No that isn't coming from a place of jealousy, I worked with a guy who spent about £120 every weekend on beer, takeaways and cigarettes and I considered that a waste as well.
If you have money, spend it how you want, you can't take it with you.
I think it's a conflation of at least two things: money and the rhythm of sustenance. People tend to forget in their general pro-democratic instincts that high-end restaurants are for rich people or at least for people willing to spend tons of money for a meal. That said, AFAIK there are also restaurants that serve large, higher-quality portions for a lot of money, though they are probably not as trendy and don't boast Michelin stars, they just aim to do what they do very well.
The rhythm of sustenance, so to speak, also plays a part. If you typically eat just one, two or even three big meals a day, you want large meals. If you tend to either eat less in general, which nowadays is a good thing, or eat several smaller meals or have snacks between meals, you don't mind the smaller portions. The kicker here is that if you want a large meal, you should eat six or seven of those smaller courses (with the bread, etc.) In those restaurants, which gets expensive fast, whereas if you eat less at a time or just generally less, you can get by with fewer courses and more people find it affordable. Of course, since most people normally eat fewer courses and don't want to pay for more, they expect to get more food and be sated with fewer courses, resulting them to underestimate the cost of those restaurants per the amount of food served.
Furthermore, the point of those restaurants is to provide interesting and perfected taste combinations for those who are willing to pay for them, which is somewhat antithetical to large meals, because being very hungry detracts from appreciating the nuances and careful balances in a dish, and also to ordinary people visiting those restaurants. Hunger will make anything taste good and visiting those places can be very expensive. Those places will happily take all customers but they are not egalitarian places. It is flawed to think otherwise.
Cheap food at the expense of quality is how half the country are keeping themselves fed through aldi, lidl, dunnes. Because of shite economic circumstances out of our direct control, we need this cheap food and groceries to get by, instead of going to tesco, marks, spar, and other shops and having your whole banking go down the drain. The good thing is thankfully the cheap food at places like aldi imo tastes the same if not better than places like tesco. So why spend more for the same?
The thing Is that you can stilo have good quality food for cheap because you need to eat less of it, with junk food you are eating more to compensate
Aldi and Lidl sell better quality food than Tesco. For less. They just dont have as many stores because they're more honest with their accounting.
And the French and Italians don't value food anywhere near the way the Chinese do.
Kylie loved the long description of the tiny thing 😆
My sandwich was sourced from Co-Op
QUALITY rant: David is SO entertaining when he's genuinely irritated about modern life.
It just goes to show how terribly common I am, I’ve never been to a restaurant where they describe the food to you in the way David was on about. Posh to me is anything that isn’t a carvery.
I've been.
they bang on about every herb, every moment of heat, (nk) time allowed to 'rest'
this is real: "and it's at this point the squab is gently sautéed in clarified Irish butter from only the lush grass of summer, and a sprinkle of summer thyme from Rhône..."
so I interrupt him: "Sorry to break in but ... are you saying the chef doesn't use salt on poultry?"
waiter got so flustered (broke his patter) that he says "Let me find out" ... _and then walks away._.
I wouldn't pay for that experience (we weren't), that's for sure.
p.s. in my defense, it was the FOURTH main (entree) that the server was describing - going on 15 full minutes at that point.
p.p.s. server had incredible memory fwiw
@@saturday1066 The description takes up more space on the menu than the food does on the plate.
nout wrong wi' carvry lad
@@samuellawrencesbookclub8250 You mean these occasions where they present overcooked mear and overcooked vegetables in heated basins and you can pour a non-descript and universal brown sauce over everything so that it at least has some - however artificial - flavour?
@@saturday1066yeah that for sure happened mate
I want a sausage roll.
No matter how fancy it is, it all comes out the same way
Not necessarily in the same state of matter though
Somebody lacks an imagination.
Clearly you've never eaten corn.
Well, I suppose that is important to know if you think that the only purpose in eating is the process of elimination.
I'm stealing that for my next date.
I'd just be thinking "how long is this going to take, I ordered food because I'm hungry"
David Mitchell is a diamond.
every meal beyond kraft dinner and hot dogs is posh in canada.
Holy shit, I am literally eating a sandwich at my keyboard... 😬
Has anyone seen "The Menu"? That movie is a great satire to "fine dining".
It's not really a satire about fine dining though. Literally, it's about that, but the actual satire/subtext is all about classism and those who engage with art for superficial reasons.
@@HOTD108_ it’s about both
Its an ironic take given the cast and director are probably living that life to the hilt.
David Mitchell is hilarious 😂
Smart🙂
My problem with the long descriptions of the food is all the ridiculous fancy words that no one outsode a fancy restaurant ever uses. Like you ask what a really long fancy sentence is and it's normal meal. Why not just say what it is, why use some complex language to describe fish and chips or a sunday roast? You shouldn't need to take a dictionary with you to order a meal.
That and the various knives, forks and spoons, a fork is a fork, why do wee need slightly different length forks, or forks with one less pointy bit? It's a very simple one size fits all design and there's no reason to have a dozen different varieties of fork. Almost the same with knives, I can at least understand a sharper knife for meat. And as for spoons, let's not even go there, a spoon is a spoon, they all do the same thing.
Then there's the times where they add one weird thing to the dish to make it have a unique flavour, the thing is though are ordered that food cause I like the flavour of that particular food, and now it doesn't have the flavour I ordered it for. But you don't know they added something cause they used stupid fancy words to describe things instead of the words that everybody knows and have agreed are the words for things.
There's a reason I eat at the more cheap fast food places, one they tell you in plan words what you're buying and two they actually come in sensible portions.
I abhor looking at a menu and finding many things I would order except they put one weird ingredient in every fist that makes it seem completely unappetizing. And I'm with you on the words. Why is mayonnaise (which used to be French and therefore fancy) not good enough and now it must be aioli?
While I agree with your general principle, from a purely practical perspective that has nothing to do with fancy restaurants and everything to do with my eating at home and other people's places, I disagree with "a spoon is a spoon, they all do the same thing."
For example, good luck sticking a large soup spoon into a bottle of yoghurt drink to mix the fruit matter stuck at the bottom into it. And good luck doing that with a regular teaspoon, too. But the teaspoon that for some reason has an extra long handle? Perfect.
Example drawn from personal experience in the past week. 😉
@@jenniferpearce1052because aioli and mayonnaise are two different things.
Yes! It's not a 'jus,' it's GRAVY!
'The veal is lightly slapped, and then
sequestered in a one-bedroom suite with a white wine intravenous'
Stephen Graham's comic timing is chef's kiss good.
He was great in Boardwalk Empire. Career best performance and he wasnt even in it that much.
OK, may I just say, I know how tall David Mitchell is. He’s about average. The people he’s sitting near must be very tiny, because he looks like a giant!
How tall then?
Kylie is definitely tiny - she's about five foot nothing, I think. Can't speak for the other two, because I have no idea who either of them are.
@@Maerahn Unless you haven't watched any films during the last 20 years, you definitely know who Stephen Graham is, you just don't know that you do.
I'm a 31 year old Australian. Didn't even recognise recognise Kylie Minogue....
I didn’t even know her name until she was mentioned on the UK series Ghosts.
you guys are living lame lives then
@@mikewazowksi7938 …..i live in rural Texas so…..yeah, probably very true. Very lame
I bet she wouldn't recognise you either mate.
I thought the same! She didn’t look bad, just quite different. I think she had a lot less make up and hairstyle going on than usual
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Wait a second! That lady on the left was Kylie Minogue? 😲
Cruel
Kylie: "Yes, I quite enjoy the tiny thing."
If you have a tiny thing, talking it up doesn't really help. Well, in food, it does because then your mind is ready to taste all the subtleties and appreciate the work that went into growing the components, cooking it, etc.
Bombay Bad Boy Pot Noodle for the win!
watched this while eating crisps and a baguette....
Nah, I’m with David on this
Jaysus, what a wacky bit.
May I never be the type of person who wants to hear someone stand around & describe the minutiae of my food.
If the people enjoy the long description of the food, they should hire someone to elegantly describe their feces afterwards!
I suppose you're not the type to listen to director's commentaries on films then? Fair enough, it's not for everyone, but for some of us it has big appeal.
@@HOTD108_ I actually Like DCs when I have the time to pay attention.
Hey, enjoy what's important to you.
@@HOTD108_ Directors commentaries are slightly more interesting than listening to what sauce your veal is having a bath in. You also dont have to sit there red faced as the waiter tries so hard to sound like he cares about what he is saying.
He's wrong though. I've been to a few posh restaurants where they serve miniscule portions, but it all adds up over the seemingly 10 hours that you're there for. You get about 4 or 5 different courses, so by the end, it's equivalent to a roast dinner.
i don't want no description of the food beforehand. i wouldn't trust it's true anyway.
I worked in the executive lounge in the Hilton Park Lane. Everything comes from a can.
I've never met anyone who cares how their restaurant meal was made and sourced (apart from dietary concerns)
That Is a bit sad
Many people do care where, seems you know the wrong people for that.
@@arnoldhau1 And i hate those people. My sister is a pretentious foodie and I cant go out with her anymore, as every ordering experience is a cringe fest where I can see the waitresses soul leaving her body.
Has David been knighted yet?
No but did you see the episode where Lee tried to tell David he was invited to some royal wedding but wasn’t able to go and before he hit Lie, he buzzed True and David looked angry and about ready to cry at the same time. He was so relieved when Lee said, no his True was actually a lie. He made the whole thing up. It was priceless.
@@WyattRyeSway Lol i saw that, he looked genuinely pissed then so relieved by the end.
I knew David and Kylie, but who were the other two?
I mean. The way most of our dishes can be summed up as “X & Y” or not far from that has gotta say something. Fish & Chips, Banger’s and Mash, Toad in the Hole.
But there is one food I really care about. Shepherd’s Pie. I make the best Shepherd’s pie. I have tasted Shepherd’s pie from fancy restaurants and everywhere in between and it is shit in comparison to what I can cook up in an hour. I really should write my recipe down sometime.
Mutton is horrible. Cottage Pie is nicer because beef is nicer. That said, tis all moot for me, as I am now a vegetarian. Poor cows.
@@paulinegallagher7821 Ahh yeah, I use beef. Technically what I make is cottage pie. I just call it shepherds pie.
Although in a few days time I’m cooking for a local night shelter and since several of the people there are Hindu I’m gonna use lamb mince since beef isn’t kosher for Hindus. I hope it’s not bad.
I can make a vegetarian one with quorn and using marmite as a substitute for beef stock and adding in some extra veg to pad it out. Still quite good.
@@yusaki8064 Ah good for you :)
It's amusing to know that you can eat a 5 course meal in a posh restuarant and leave hungry. Give me bag of fish and chips any day. Masochists....
That used to be true (especially in the 80s-early 90s) but it's no longer the case.
Hah some chemistry good and bad on that sofa
yeah... when I give a long winded flowery description of a small thing my wife goes to sleep.
Kylie Minogue?
Who's the hottie on the end?
That's Graham Norton.
Who's the woman on the left?
Kylie Minogue.
The (now unrecognisable) Kylie Minogue...
@@liamnevilleviolist1809age comes for us all
@@liamnevilleviolist1809It's called aging. It'll happen to you if you're lucky. Grow up.
@@HOTD108_ It's called plastic surgery actually...
Stephen Graham’s body language. He’s not happy with David Mitchell
I had to Google who he is, never heard of him 🤔
@@MargaretUK He has a great body of acting work. I like his acting quite a bit.
Its the idea of other people serving you which is extremely off putting. It makes you feel lazy which makes you feel bad.
Kylie usually looks gorgeous. Too many fillers? Sh3 looks terrible here.
Pointless video
David Mitchell is very outpsoken and has been a passionate critic of pseudoscience like homeopathy. He's oddly quiet on the pseudoscience of chemically castrating children or performing dangerous irreversible surgery on children. I wonder if we'll hear him speak out against the terrifying new laws in Scotland.