Hey kenneth! Would you mind giving a full review and breakdown of pros cons and experience with the repower 2.8? I'm seriously considering one for a project upcoming.
Stephen, it's nearly impossible. The real answer is these are not good candidates for California as the state makes it very difficult. I don't believe they plan on giving this engine an EO number- so you would really build at risk.
@@gogop66 ide love to swap the R2.8 in my 1995 Yukon 4X4 but have the same problem im in Winnetka Ca, I either need to move to another state or swap a pre 1975 truck.
Ken. Beautiful Job. I am considering either the r2.8 or LS for my 89 FJ62. Is the diesel loud? If yes, did you do anything in the cabin to reduce the noise?
@@gogop66 thank you for the quick response. Would you happen to know the performance difference between the 5.3 vortex which seems to be the normal conversion. How is it during higher speeds? My desire is the diesel.. Did you change the gear ratio in the rear differential?
@@sujit3691 I didn’t change the gearing, I have 4.10 gears and it works well with my set up - 31” tires and the 6L80e. The 5.3 has more power and ability to get even more power with performance modifications. I like the diesel- it’s a good match and I get good fuel economy but the 5.3 doesn’t do too bad either. They both have good points - I think it may be a lot cheaper to do the 5.3 - but - I have never done one. It runs $15k to $35k to do the Cummins depending on how or who does it for you.
@@gogop66 Thank you for your response. I will be deciding this week to go either R2.8 or 5.3. Even at the higher price my gut says go Diesel. I didnt see the evaporator set-up in your video. Which compressor and evaporator did you use? I would really appreciate if you had a few minutes to chat via voice.
@@sujit3691 I assume by compressor and evaporator you're talking about the AC system? I have the Cummins compressor and I used the "condenser" that was stock with the FJ62. Let me know a good way to contact you - I am on Pacific Time in the US .
I've always been very interested in doing this to my 89' FJ62. How much did this swap cost? Also, how were you able to become California legal? I understand that the state is not too easy on diesel swaps. Thanks!
It’s not a CA legal swap- price really depends on what you do- if you do all the work yourself and don’t replace major components like transmission etc - you can maybe get it all done for $12K to $15K. A full professional swap with all new components runs $25K to $40K
I love this rig. I have 2 land cruiser 80 series. I will definitely put an R2.8 on one with time. I am wondering if there is any conversion kit available for the 80 series landcruiser?
So how happy are you after 2 years? Have you had any issues? What stall converter are you running? I know Cummins repower garage says they've had the best success with 2500 stall. That sounds a little high to me but I know they have done a lot of testing. Thank you 👍
Still happy, however I would have gone a different way (more robust) cooling package. I tow with it and this little engine gets hot! I haven’t had any issues really to speak of- the 2500 stall speed is okay but feels like it’s pulling a bit at stop lights. What are you wanting to put it in?
@@gogop66 I'm thinking about doing a Scout 2 project. Same transmission and engine. I would probably order the best aluminum radiator I could get for the space. The scouts had a 345 V8 so I think I should be fine on radiator but I'll remember what you said for sure. What's your ring and pinion gear? I'm thinking 4.10 with 33s 6L80. Thank you
@@brianlee6849 Definitely get the biggest aluminum radiator you can fit, definitely build a really good shroud to maximize airflow and I would suggest getting a high volume mechanical fan that can move 5000 CFM. Cooling this little engine is the biggest issue that most people have, I started with an electric fan that was 1800 CFM in both my CJ7 and FJ62. For my CJ, which is much lighter and I don't tow with it still gets hot on very long grades. I has a huge aluminum radiator but it's just not enough. In the install videos they allude to a properly engineered cooling system but they don't really emphasize enough how much air needs to move to keep it cool. - I'm running original 4.10 gears with 31" tires on the FJ, for the 6L80e it's perfect. I would also be okay at 3.73's I think. My CJ is running 2.55's with 33" tires which equated to about 2050 RPMs and 70 MPH. The FJ is about 2200 RPMs at 70 MPH. This little engine has plenty of power for your Scout II - but I assume you'll have 33's or higher- so with that in mind DO go CRAZY with the cooling :D - Note: I have a dual fan "race" setup now that moves about 3700 CFM, those fans draw a shit ton of power and it's been a bit of a problem which is why I say go mechanical. A lot of builders now or doing mechanical fans to get more air. Let me know how it goes!
@@gogop66 Excellent advice 👍. What temp does it plateau at? Do you have a pyrometer? A pyrometer is the best way to control temp . I have driven long haul semi trucks since 89 and I always watch RPM vs boost vs pyrometer to find the sweet spot. For example right now I haul equipment up to 110,000 with a Paccar 510 horsepower 1850-ft lb torque it's sweet spot is 1400 to 1600 rpm while pulling grades go lower or higher it starts heating up. Gauges are everything for diesel. Thank you 👍
@@gogop66 You may also have a charge air cooler leak or to small. Air flow is extremely important to a diesel engine it can cause heat and drop in economy. Another reason for a pyrometer. I try to keep my pyro on big diesel below 900 above that water temperature starts climbing. Thank you 👍
What is the name of the app for the iPhone for engine readouts ?? Any details on sensors and manufacturer details that go along with all this would be highly appreciated
I use a blue driver OBDII reader, it has a Bluetooth connection to my phone and the gauges are part of the app BlueDriver Bluetooth Pro OBDII Scan Tool for iPhone & Android www.amazon.com/dp/B00652G4TS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_HR0B0530CK9F51GH4XS1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
That's a good question. I couldn't get a 1hdft new - the R2.8 was new and I have a lot of experience and trust in Cummins. I also have an R2.8 in my CJ7 and that has been great. With all that said I am not sure the R2.8 is the "perfect" engine for an FJ60/62. Its really good if you're not going to tow- I tow so I could use a little more power.
@@user-hb2wr1gd6w ya it's not new and can't get a new one. From your experience would you say its a good engine ? Because a lot of people complained about the previous version isf2.8 with major failures and that had me worried since I haven't had any first hand experience with the r2.8. There is a plug in tuner from the UK for the r2.8 which will give u more power
@@user-hb2wr1gd6w what milage have u done on the CJ and have u experienced any issues ? Sorry for all the questions but there doesn't seem to be any info I can find online of first hand experience
Cost really depends on you, how much you do yourself and how much you spend on additional parts etc. If you get a full service install with new transmission etc it can run about $30K - $35K But if you do a lot of work yourself and don’t buy all new parts some people do it for less than $15K
@@AMG43ramirez I spent about $28K just on the swap. That included tons of new stuff including complete cooling package, customer fab work and new transmission, and controller. This build can be done as cheap as $15K I believe.
@@zackfeidl8360 It's a huge improvement over the stock engine. The OEM engine is known for being really slow on the highway but capable off road. This engine is excellent in both areas. The 310 ft lbs of torque come on early and are well used through the power band. Matched to the 6 speed auto works really well but I have heard that the 8 speed auto is even better.
vastly better on fuel than the Toyota turbo diesels.....................even the late model toyota V8 twin turbo's are heavy on diesel. People towing just a bogie axle caravan are only getting 11 miles to a US gallon.
@@N55666 Sure, the quick serve guide - Look, I have two of these, they both came set to 800 RPMs from the factory, I did a 4500 mile trip with the Cummins R2.8 team from Columbus- I know several of the team engineers personally - I have no idea what you are referring to- no one that I know of run at 650RPMs for the R2.8 - so send a link - I would be glad to check it out- (for the R2.8) By the way, here is a video of Steve and Brittany doing a start up - it's 800 RPMs th-cam.com/video/wovFpJkMwFM/w-d-xo.html
That's so beautiful, Ken. Hope to do a similar swap if I can find a nice FJ80. You answered all the important questions I had. Thanks!
Great build mate! Would be good to see a drive video 👍🏻
Great Rig! considering a r2.8 for my early Bronco build
dannnnnggg living the dream! would love to do that swap to one of my projects some day
Wow so cool! Can u do more vids on this? The sound of the engine? While driving? Turbo whistle? I’d love to see more!!!!!
Amazing build. I'm down in NoCal, and commented on your FB post.
FishNinjaY glad you like it - where in Nor Cal?
@@gogop66 oops.. I meant north OC... I'm in the Los Alamitos area. I have a 90 FJ62, and would love to do this. Why the diesel, vs the LS6.2 swap?
Hey kenneth! Would you mind giving a full review and breakdown of pros cons and experience with the repower 2.8? I'm seriously considering one for a project upcoming.
Wow. Very nice job. You said that you are in ventura area? If so I would like to ask some questions.
Thanks for sharing this! How did you go about getting this registered in CA?? I’m just up the road from you!
Same question as Dominic, how do you navigate DMV to get this registered. Both your conversions are stellar, thanks for sharing!
Stephen, it's nearly impossible. The real answer is these are not good candidates for California as the state makes it very difficult. I don't believe they plan on giving this engine an EO number- so you would really build at risk.
@@gogop66 ide love to swap the R2.8 in my 1995 Yukon 4X4 but have the same problem im in Winnetka Ca, I either need to move to another state or swap a pre 1975 truck.
Ken. Beautiful Job. I am considering either the r2.8 or LS for my 89 FJ62. Is the diesel loud? If yes, did you do anything in the cabin to reduce the noise?
It’s not really that loud - both are good choices depending on use
@@gogop66 thank you for the quick response. Would you happen to know the performance difference between the 5.3 vortex which seems to be the normal conversion. How is it during higher speeds? My desire is the diesel..
Did you change the gear ratio in the rear differential?
@@sujit3691 I didn’t change the gearing, I have 4.10 gears and it works well with my set up - 31” tires and the 6L80e. The 5.3 has more power and ability to get even more power with performance modifications. I like the diesel- it’s a good match and I get good fuel economy but the 5.3 doesn’t do too bad either. They both have good points - I think it may be a lot cheaper to do the 5.3 - but - I have never done one. It runs $15k to $35k to do the Cummins depending on how or who does it for you.
@@gogop66 Thank you for your response. I will be deciding this week to go either R2.8 or 5.3. Even at the higher price my gut says go Diesel. I didnt see the evaporator set-up in your video. Which compressor and evaporator did you use? I would really appreciate if you had a few minutes to chat via voice.
@@sujit3691 I assume by compressor and evaporator you're talking about the AC system? I have the Cummins compressor and I used the "condenser" that was stock with the FJ62. Let me know a good way to contact you - I am on Pacific Time in the US .
More videos about the diesel motors drive
I've always been very interested in doing this to my 89' FJ62. How much did this swap cost? Also, how were you able to become California legal? I understand that the state is not too easy on diesel swaps. Thanks!
It’s not a CA legal swap- price really depends on what you do- if you do all the work yourself and don’t replace major components like transmission etc - you can maybe get it all done for $12K to $15K. A full professional swap with all new components runs $25K to $40K
I love this rig. I have 2 land cruiser 80 series. I will definitely put an R2.8 on one with time. I am wondering if there is any conversion kit available for the 80 series landcruiser?
There is an R2.8 group on FB - you’ll get a lot of info there -
Thanks mate I appreciate it.
If you ever think about selling let me know 👍 cool rigs
I have thought about it, but I have no idea what the market is for these swapped rigs - I never see them for sale!
@@gogop66 The land cruisers have been bringing top $$$ on "Bring a Trailer" lately. I love yours..
So how happy are you after 2 years? Have you had any issues? What stall converter are you running? I know Cummins repower garage says they've had the best success with 2500 stall. That sounds a little high to me but I know they have done a lot of testing. Thank you 👍
Still happy, however I would have gone a different way (more robust) cooling package. I tow with it and this little engine gets hot! I haven’t had any issues really to speak of- the 2500 stall speed is okay but feels like it’s pulling a bit at stop lights. What are you wanting to put it in?
@@gogop66 I'm thinking about doing a Scout 2 project. Same transmission and engine. I would probably order the best aluminum radiator I could get for the space. The scouts had a 345 V8 so I think I should be fine on radiator but I'll remember what you said for sure. What's your ring and pinion gear? I'm thinking 4.10 with 33s 6L80. Thank you
@@brianlee6849 Definitely get the biggest aluminum radiator you can fit, definitely build a really good shroud to maximize airflow and I would suggest getting a high volume mechanical fan that can move 5000 CFM. Cooling this little engine is the biggest issue that most people have, I started with an electric fan that was 1800 CFM in both my CJ7 and FJ62. For my CJ, which is much lighter and I don't tow with it still gets hot on very long grades. I has a huge aluminum radiator but it's just not enough. In the install videos they allude to a properly engineered cooling system but they don't really emphasize enough how much air needs to move to keep it cool. - I'm running original 4.10 gears with 31" tires on the FJ, for the 6L80e it's perfect. I would also be okay at 3.73's I think. My CJ is running 2.55's with 33" tires which equated to about 2050 RPMs and 70 MPH. The FJ is about 2200 RPMs at 70 MPH. This little engine has plenty of power for your Scout II - but I assume you'll have 33's or higher- so with that in mind DO go CRAZY with the cooling :D - Note: I have a dual fan "race" setup now that moves about 3700 CFM, those fans draw a shit ton of power and it's been a bit of a problem which is why I say go mechanical. A lot of builders now or doing mechanical fans to get more air. Let me know how it goes!
@@gogop66 Excellent advice 👍. What temp does it plateau at? Do you have a pyrometer? A pyrometer is the best way to control temp . I have driven long haul semi trucks since 89 and I always watch RPM vs boost vs pyrometer to find the sweet spot. For example right now I haul equipment up to 110,000 with a Paccar 510 horsepower 1850-ft lb torque it's sweet spot is 1400 to 1600 rpm while pulling grades go lower or higher it starts heating up. Gauges are everything for diesel. Thank you 👍
@@gogop66 You may also have a charge air cooler leak or to small. Air flow is extremely important to a diesel engine it can cause heat and drop in economy. Another reason for a pyrometer. I try to keep my pyro on big diesel below 900 above that water temperature starts climbing. Thank you 👍
What is the name of the app for the iPhone for engine readouts ?? Any details on sensors and manufacturer details that go along with all this would be highly appreciated
I use a blue driver OBDII reader, it has a Bluetooth connection to my phone and the gauges are part of the app
BlueDriver Bluetooth Pro OBDII Scan Tool for iPhone & Android www.amazon.com/dp/B00652G4TS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_HR0B0530CK9F51GH4XS1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
How has the engine been ~ year later? Any issues?
No issues at all, it's been really good. Pretty boring actually as it's simple and reliable- really fits well with this vehicle.
howd you gt the rpm to work in the factory location?
I got a converter from Dakota digital- you can now also select the output pulse in the ECM, either at the service center or if you have the equipment
hi. I'm stuck between the r2.8 or toyota 1hdft. what made you choose the r2.8 over the toyota ? Great rig
That's a good question. I couldn't get a 1hdft new - the R2.8 was new and I have a lot of experience and trust in Cummins. I also have an R2.8 in my CJ7 and that has been great. With all that said I am not sure the R2.8 is the "perfect" engine for an FJ60/62. Its really good if you're not going to tow- I tow so I could use a little more power.
@@user-hb2wr1gd6w ya it's not new and can't get a new one. From your experience would you say its a good engine ? Because a lot of people complained about the previous version isf2.8 with major failures and that had me worried since I haven't had any first hand experience with the r2.8. There is a plug in tuner from the UK for the r2.8 which will give u more power
@@user-hb2wr1gd6w what milage have u done on the CJ and have u experienced any issues ? Sorry for all the questions but there doesn't seem to be any info I can find online of first hand experience
@@nasseral-momen1463 no issues with the engine in my CJ7 or my FJ62- if I had one complaint I would say it’s too small - for the FJ62
@@gogop66 if that's the case you should get the remap chip from the UK. All plug and play
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Хороший проект удачи в ваших проектах. У меня тоже фургон на камензе 2.8
I’m thinking about doing this to my 4Runner how much did the swap cost you ?
Cost really depends on you, how much you do yourself and how much you spend on additional parts etc. If you get a full service install with new transmission etc it can run about $30K - $35K But if you do a lot of work yourself and don’t buy all new parts some people do it for less than $15K
What’s the price of this build?
Can you be more specific? I have $42K in the entire build including the price for the vehicle when I bought it.
@@user-hb2wr1gd6w just the swap I’m referring to
@@AMG43ramirez I spent about $28K just on the swap. That included tons of new stuff including complete cooling package, customer fab work and new transmission, and controller. This build can be done as cheap as $15K I believe.
The same fj60 gearbox???
No, the transmission is a 6 speed auto, 6L80e - the transfer case is new (or rebuilt)
@@gogop66 Im a fan of all land cruiser models... And you have a really really nice one. Great job man!!!
Grettings from Venezuela.
How much power gaining from this swapped engine?
@@zackfeidl8360 It's a huge improvement over the stock engine. The OEM engine is known for being really slow on the highway but capable off road. This engine is excellent in both areas. The 310 ft lbs of torque come on early and are well used through the power band. Matched to the 6 speed auto works really well but I have heard that the 8 speed auto is even better.
vastly better on fuel than the Toyota turbo diesels.....................even the late model toyota V8 twin turbo's are heavy on diesel. People towing just a bogie axle caravan are only getting 11 miles to a US gallon.
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It should idle at 650rpm not 800rpm
Not sure where you got that number from - but it’s wrong
@@gogop66 okay buddy 😂
@@gogop66 have you ever heard of QSOL?
@@N55666 Sure, the quick serve guide - Look, I have two of these, they both came set to 800 RPMs from the factory, I did a 4500 mile trip with the Cummins R2.8 team from Columbus- I know several of the team engineers personally - I have no idea what you are referring to- no one that I know of run at 650RPMs for the R2.8 - so send a link - I would be glad to check it out- (for the R2.8) By the way, here is a video of Steve and Brittany doing a start up - it's 800 RPMs th-cam.com/video/wovFpJkMwFM/w-d-xo.html
@@user-hb2wr1gd6w please send your esn and I will check qsol as I have an account 🤑