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Scared of Goths? (Low Elo Legends #20)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2020
- Some low elo legends love Goths. Other low elo legends fear Goths. Will that matter?
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At 3:13...
T90:"So maybe we can do this today..."
Villager:Ja?(yes)
T90: "What do you guys think about..."
Villager: "Ja?"
Just thought that was funny.😅
15:54
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I'm so glad someone else noticed 11
It would be even better if the units just said "nein!" so "no!".
OMG, I played this guy before. Ironically I chose goths and he immediately left the game lol.
Seems like red in this game had a mindset that was very similar to that of his opponent!
Lol, his experience shown on the video traumatized him.
liar
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I got very used to people not calling GG. So there are games where I would be winning, and the opponent calls GG. And for some reason I equate that to he's given up, so I quit the game before him, becoming the loser
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I had people quit on me indeed. Because I am not quick enough to resign fast after gg.
@@Doubleranged1 haha damnn what's your ELO? We might've played. ISeeThings sound familiar?
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How´s that? Just wait for him to resign :D
Every day I see Low Elo uploaded I pray to the gods I am not in there.
actually I pray for the opposite :d
Actually, being a low elo legend is an honor, it means you were the best player out of the whole day. What I fear is worse, imagine playing a game, T90 watches and labels it the worst game of the day and you never get uploaded.
Every game I play, I look at the spectator #.
I'm at the elo that the chat likes to watch, but luckily not at the elo T90 likes to watch; I'm stuck around 650 until I get better.
@@shawnbybee85 I mean lets be honest I can say I don't want to be on there....but deep down I check the videos to see if I make it.
@@tylerthull8107 Yea I know, sometimes I just like to play.
Writing a comment like that for me is like a one sentence comment for most people, I usually write essays, lol
@@shawnbybee85 i think the worst low elo are the best low elo
Watching this low ELO series is actually inspiring me to jump into online play after 9 months of playing against Hard-Hardest AI and learning how to use the scenario editor scripting for fun games!
THATS MY FRIEND “Please Don’t Choose Goths” HES FROM GERMANY AND A SUPER COOL GUY!! YOOOOO KEVIN!!!
lol der typ war vor nen paar tagen bei mir in der AoE Lobby und hat mit uns gechattet :D
Shoutout to Big Kev
Was hat der Gute denn bloß gegen Goten? :(
@@genau14zeichen de nada
How come he chooses the Goths while telling others not to? 😅
To be honest, this is standard low ELO strategy in a nutshell: castle-drop your opponent and watch him panic and lose everything while trying to deal with it.
Lose your forward castle and you concede.
I know, I see this a lot. I recently moved up to 1100 solo, essentially on the back of trebbing forward castles.
@Kvothe Windrunner that never worked for me XD
I got into elo recently (less than 10 matches) Ive already seen people dropping a forward castle and....thats it. They dont have the momentum to keep the pressure and just lose.
@@jojozxc1234 Yeah, one time in arena, I stopped a Frankish player just in time from completing a caste, another time, a Persian quickwalled his builders, but a counter-attack with rams did for the castle and penetrated deep into his base, though two more attacks were necessary.
Some dude: puts "please don't choose goths" as his username, hoping for people to have compassion
Also the dude: goth spam goes brrrrrrr
@Eddie M 1 11
Such an interesting game.
- Red made a couple inadvisable decisions--archers vs. goths, castle vs. imp.
- Both spent a lot of time getting upgrades before they had units.
- Blue never made enough villagers.
- Red never made enough army. Red could have won more fights and had more confidence if he just had a few more units on the field.
Still, they did a lot of things right! Some areas of their game were better than mine. Just a few key errors.
I think he would be fine if he went all in crossbow knight. But i root almost every single time against goth pickers :D
Poor red. I can relate a lot.
I usually play britons and goths just scare me.
If i win usually is because of a bold move like forward castle, laming, tower rush or full champion spam. If i lose usually is because of the absurd goth infantry swarm
If goths are a problem to u as Britons I guess it is because of the huscal, so if you go for champion archer your chances are insane against goths. Champion counters huskal and everything else that goth can make ist counter by your archers (maybe not rams but then again you have champions). (I hope this can help you, I had the same fear of goths in the past)
To expand on Fred We, take a look at this:
th-cam.com/video/9PGGykgK7ss/w-d-xo.html
It's high enough elo that we can learn what's the right play, but low enough that we can understand it and add it to our strategy.
@@fredwe9217 i think you don't even need archers
here's a idea coming from a 900 ELO player so take with some salt cavalier is not that far off of paladin so while you dont get the best cav in the tech tree they are still solid cav so the idea is to mix in cavalier with longbows because the huscarls have pretty much no melee armor and the cavaliers have beefier stats than the militia line
22:00 watch the two knights come in and just wallop the huscarls with 2 attacks they eat approximately 40% of health off the huscarl and they are still regular knights with +2 or about unupgraded cavalier strength attacks so that means one will kill in about 5-6hits conversely a huscarl hits the same but a cavalier has double hp meaning it will take 10 hits to kill not counting armor
Also they can stay mobile to dodge spearmen spam while the longbows are far enough back to give cav room to dance around the slower goth infantry if they go for your archers you can use your cav to body block or kill them where appropriate downside is the gold cost however so hussar/light cav (i forget the brit tech tree off the top of my head) could be an ok filler unit imo the only thing to watch out for is really spearmen and even then the longbows should be able to mop them up so essentially
longbows vs. militia line/spearmen/archers
cavalier vs. huscarls/skirm/cav
I remember coming back to AoE after a few years, discovering the wonder of Mangudai balls; just turtled until I had a ton of Mangudai. I didn't know about Goths. Ended up licking my lips as I readied for a Mangudai push, a few Huskarl comes up, and suddenly I'm saying to myself "wait, wait, WAIT, these things aren't dying!"
The one time that auto-scout is useful is seen here.
I just played the Goth's player yesterday on ranked arena. He was mongols though, kinda ironic. We had a conversation mid game where we shared our mutual fear for goths 11. We also talked about food in our respective countries. It was a fun quick game. I go by the name "Ray Ray" on DE. He unfortunately lost though, probably because he hadn't built up the eco behind it.
I know it is kind of frowned upon, but one of the biggest things I would think that helps is always picking the same civ at first. When you constantly pick the same civ, it allows you to focus on build order because you are not focused on what this civ has in bonuses or army comp. You can not do it the other way and learn the civ's first, because you will always have to focus on both and it will take longer.
The problem is not can you learn it all, everyone can, it's more about do you know yourself enough to know how you learn so the game doesn't feel overwhelming; this is where people fail.
As a person who writes a lot, do not try and learn the whole game at once, pick an area, focus and understand it, then the next thing will be easier, the next even easier.
Last but not least, just keep playing, eventually your ear will get use to hearing a vil pop out every 25 secs, that you don't even have to focus on that anymore, your ear will do it for you, and you will get to the point where the game is reaction and not thinking. Turning the economy into blinking your eye's (just something you do without thinking) is the hardest part. Your ear is the biggest helper, there are so many sounds. Looking at the TC and you don't here any wood chopping sounds like a quiet base because all the wood chopping is so satisfying.
IMO
Although it may work well, i dont find it much exciting.Trying different civs and maps is more fun to me and also helpful as you learn to adapt. I usually pick, just that i can think of strategy minute before, feels more comfortable. For what u mentioned - like mastering one civ, i suppose it should be some civ without strong eco bonuses like byzantines/spanish/goths/huns - it can really mislead you if you are just learning buildorders.
@@krystofcisar469 fair enough, but I was only talking about learning the civs, not how the game should be played
I want a showmatch between PleaseDon'tChooseGoths and You'reProbablyPersians. Take my money!
Oh shit, I forgot YOU WERE You'reProbablyPersians !
Someone wrote "forward nothing" in stream chat.... that made me laugh loud 😂
"This time of year it's humid in Florida"
My dude that state is humid all times of the year. Im sorry.
Red was pretty silly. He just through it out the window by insisting on that corner.
Should have scouted the other side of the base to try and get in that way.
Lmao "Wow Blue is gonna go one TC huskarls?!" Goth vil: yah
the second between the game being over and the gasp is the biggest thriller ever
My gum fell out when red walked through the wall12:45 :D
3:13 call it No Elo Legends
haha, genius
I love choosing goths on Hideout, actually I Pick them there Most of the time. (1350 elo)
There are two Main strategies.
1. Against Archercivs: FC into Castle at Home and then start creating huskarls and Start attacking when you have around 6 huskarls. When the enemy goes infantry , make a forward Siege Workshop and add scorpions.
2. When the enemy is going knights, Go FC into two barracks and spam pikes. Then Go "hoang rush" that means go mangos and maybe scorpions and get some monks in the Forward.
Damn goths are strong haha
I like to farm goths with my deutschritter after fast castle strategy. I simply farm some stone and turtle the shit out and then when my melee elite kicks in goths no chance.
@Haroon Abdul Majeed the question is If you can spam so many of those jaguars that you can counter the goth spam
With goths there isnt really a strategy- its more like feature.
15:30 argh that's a free castle kill, why do you retreat the rams?
"Red should win this game"... less the 10 seconds later Red resigns
its been 2 weeks. WHERE IS THE LEGEND OF THE LIAR PART 2
I am from the future. It gets posted.
Please do "nothing goths" and convince please don't choose goths to play.
Like, all players are goths and everything is goth barracks instead of outposts.
Also invite HuskarlsJr
I'm lowkey glad that four fifths of goth players are raging noobs that die in feudal/early castle raids. It's like they swear all people would let them get to post-imp and gather 10k food to spam Huskarls with total impunity
I spectate random games fairly often and I'll agree that random team games are kind of crap. Everybody just booms until the one guy who knows what he's doing makes a push, usually in castle age, and then the whole opposing team crumbles.
Usually got wing position and getting double teamed while my teammates booms and build sim city, not moving inch until impoerial age. Or its like 4v4 and one of your team drops in first 5minutes... Yaaay
It's that time again! Love the LELs
I can relate. I still lose to Moderate difficulty despite having twice as many villagers and a larger army (until they get wiped out).
I love Lel games like these. Lots of back n forward action
The last time i played AoE2 must have been in 2001 or 2002, yet here i am watching all of T90s videos
Same here
I really appreciate the effort you put into all your work T90. I don't even play AOE2 but I've been watching your videos for months because you make it so captivating! I do have one complaint though. I just drove up to school today and was listening to some of them on auto play and there was one moment you just screamed "OHH" and that freaked me out to where I almost crashed. It sounded so real! I hope you are doing well and looking after yourself too! All the best :)
23:50 Someone save this sound bite
your goth strategy costed me so many games, thanks t90
T90: 3:44 MY Goth strategy
Puerco_Prieto: *Surprised Pikachu face*
I have no words for what i just saw
im low elo, i held against goths for 2 hours as britons in the courner of the map using choke points, even though i lost i nearly had him at the end with an un expected raid on his base after slipping a villager out, he didnt realise and i killed almost all his villagers, unfortunately i didnt have the res to follow it up with anything. i still watch the video back and struggle to see any aspect i could have done better. The production speed and build castle units from barracks was just too much.
Copypasta of my own comment, sue me:
here's a idea coming from a 900 ELO player so take with some salt cavalier is not that far off of paladin so while you dont get the best cav in the tech tree they are still solid cav so the idea is to mix in cavalier with longbows because the huscarls have pretty much no melee armor and the cavaliers have beefier stats than the militia line
22:00 watch the two knights come in and just wallop the huscarls with 2 attacks they eat approximately 40% of health off the huscarl and they are still regular knights with +2 or about unupgraded cavalier strength attacks so that means one will kill in about 5-6hits conversely a huscarl hits the same but a cavalier has double hp meaning it will take 10 hits to kill not counting armor
Also they can stay mobile to dodge spearmen spam while the longbows are far enough back to give cav room to dance around the slower goth infantry if they go for your archers you can use your cav to body block or kill them where appropriate downside is the gold cost however so hussar/light cav (i forget the brit tech tree off the top of my head) could be an ok filler unit imo the only thing to watch out for is really spearmen and even then the longbows should be able to mop them up so essentially
longbows vs. militia line/spearmen/archers
cavalier vs. huscarls/skirm/cav
I like the video first then I watch it. LEL never disappoints.
Just came from the scalpa62 and droogiz video. This serious is awesome. I didnt know aoe2 had people still playing and especially at this level. Makes me want to try online.
13:30 FALSE ! he kept producing all the time. WP red
I haven't laughed so hard
Can confirm, 29C weather if you are acclimatised to the UK is death.
yo should do mid elo team games, 1700-2000 elo rating, that would be awesome
Blue: Has been on defensive all game, have twice less population and has been on the verge of losing his base at least once.
Red: Strong eco, strong military.
Red: resigns XD
"Twice less" do you mean half?
@@greywolf7577 Yeah....
I'm french, in France we don't say half, we say twice less ^^
Middletts AOE casts a few lower elo team games a week. Like 1200- 1500 team rating. I wouldn't skip a T90 vid for them, but on days when you run out of T90 it may be worth a look.
Yes people are really that afraid of the Goths. Almost every time I see huskarls, I lose. If they're coming from the barracks it's 100%. Only exception is if I'm Aztec in which case I laugh in Nahuatl and say "Nezahualcoyotl sends his regards" while my champs and jags reap a grim harvest of angsty, eyeliner-stained tears.
Everybody gangsta till you recreate the night of sorrows on the goths
Japanese have all the answers to goths - champion, hand canoneer, even samurai is good (they got bonus against all unique). however its hard to keep up with their speedy production.
No air-conditioning is painful. Australia hits over 110 Fahrenheit and i have no air-conditioning.
teuton kinight : Am i a joke to you
ey finaly a new elo legends game this is one of my favorite series on youtube you should do a 300 elo game
As a low elo scrub i have to admit i have done this multiple times and everytime i do it i see how many vills how many resources and then quit for a month until i muster up the mental courage to face myself in game again. My own worst enemy.
6:50 Elo calculation for team games was messed up which lead to elo inflation. SotL did a video on this
I have a recorded team game that might be worth calling a low/no ELO legend for one specific player lol. So many bizarre and highly, highly unusual actions in one game BY THE WINNER!
wow, resigned with absolutely ZERO pressure on his eco.
Fully relate to PLEASE DON'T CHOOSE GOTHS
I love playing against them. Yesterday I did an 580-150 k/d in Arena, I`m sure he didn`t understand why my shiny Elite Teutonic Knights just don`t die, I moved them to his barracks, the huskrals, spawned and dies :D He tried even heavy cav archers to stop it :D
@@petermari8299 Haha, the amount of games I've been rushed before I can wall up and get counters out is just ridiculous. Then the relentless spam of huskarls late game is so annoying! I guess that says a lot about my ELO though!
@@melissabury5702 Yeah they can be pain in...so there :D but that`s the good thing on Arena. Both are relaxed of rush and the Goth can think hahh, it`s my time to play the best and then "whhaaaaaaat" :D
Oh yeah missed the arena bit! I bet that's a dream they would just melt to any other civs late game!! Only play on Arabia really
I usually play britons. When i see goths is like my mind change completly. Start to play really serious, going scout rush as fast as posible, even laming boars. Then making archers and walling his stone in.
I really hate that match. I lost a ton of games just because i let goths boom without preassure
Double Blacksmith Strategy is my favourite strategy
Not nearly as effective as triple island ranges
Classic resigning over minor setbacks. Once had an opponent resign because I fought back his first push on my defensive castle. I had no significant army or map control.
"It's so hot in Germany" at 29C
Laughs in Australian
that name sounded familiar, so I checked my replays, and I have played against PLEASE DONT CHOOSE GOTH as well, it's a small world.
Its me, i m ogfline for a while. Wann ago again? ;)
@@karlmax6673 ahah, sure, my username is the same as here.
@@amaurythewarrior i think i remember you bro
I feel like you find better LEL games in ranked. Too many noob only lobbies end up with experienced or semi-experienced players joining for an easy stomp.
How to get better at age:
Watch high level games and tournaments to understand the basic principles of play. (Hera has some overanalysed games I think)
Learn 2 or three simple build orders, usually scouts, archers and FC. And when to use them
Play ladder games.
Watch your own recs to understand why you lost.
Play with a friend or training partner so you can analyse and review games and understand what players playing against you are thinking.
Spend less time playing team games, even if team games are less stressful and more fun they're not nearly as helpful for improving.
I feel like every time I play a team game one team is simply better across the board than the other, which either means I can do a greedy boom from pocket and not suffer the consequences before "carrying" late game, or else that I spend my entire time putting out fires on the flanks and the other team gets to boom uncontested, and there's not much of a struggle either way.
And if I'm flank and we're outmatched, I'll put some early pressure on the enemy flank before getting 3v1'd and dying, while pleading in vain for my pocket to do something besides hunting relics to boost the Lithuanian knights he's not actually using anyways.
Man, all I want are noob team games, I'm tired of 1v1
Me watching as an almost always Goth player.
booo
LA County last week... 121 Fahrenheit
That's nothing. Some parts of northern California and Oregon were upwards of 600 F last week.
But it's a very dry heat.
Lol. Chat called it.
Lent end of liar part 2
Ah, a classic case of losing a whole army prompting a gg. Happens a lot at low elos, even I'm guilty of that myself...
This was over tho... He would stand a chance only if he didnt threw that castle and had some knights and archers at home
I love watching Lo Elo Legends. My fear is I'll show up on here one day though... :(
I PLAYED HIM LAST WEEK!!!
I lost...
You played blue or red? 👀
@@karlmax6673 I played blue, he was Vikings not Goths
29 degrees C is nothing
its the humidity that is the killer
T90 how do i send you my saved game
Constant 30°C+ here lmao
Please do low elo legends EVERY DAY
this is why i dont even try ranked, i get put against someone at this elo and they crush me
BIG THROW
'What does he even gain from going to IMP?'... This isn't how low ELO players think. Hitting tech buttons when you can afford them = good.
3 knights in that situation it's a gg for sure... not in low elo legends!!!
The britons sheep bonus apply for other herd animals?
I feel bad for red :(
T90 needs to cast a game where red actually wins now.
The score difference is very misleading. Happened to me a few times as well where the opponent went imp and had half my eco but much higher score.
Pfffffffffffttttt these kids running 20 miles in 90-degree don't know what heat is. It's 99 here and HUMID! You have no idea what its like sitting down in my room with the ac on. -T900Official
WHAT WAS THAT SOUND AT 5:22 ???
I play ranked without a build order and only just started using hotkeys
I'm a bit confused on what you call "low elo". From what I gathered from Spirit of the Law, apparently 1000 elo is basically the level of the AI in extreme and it's the "middle elo" but you consider 900 elo to be low tier ?
Also I'm pretty sure a 900 elo player can consistently get a FC in 16min since I'm able to pull it off myself while I'm totally unable to beat the extreme AI (without early and permanent agression that is but that's the easy mode).
So, what are the low/middle/high elo "marks" exactly ? I want to know more but I get mixed messages here and there.
Lol, we hit 116F in California, we got it bad.
feel like civ is of no importens until at least 1000 elo
Played against this goth guy about a week ago
U won?
@@karlmax6673 At this point, I don't remember. All I remember that it was a 4v4 black forest game in the custom queue
I just learn the default hotkeys lol
I don't think new players should random unless they know a build order for the Chinese and another build order for every other civilization. If you end up with the Chinese it really messes with your build order. If you're not ready for it, it can be pretty detrimental. The first time I started randoming I would lose every game I got the Chinese just because I wasn't ready for the extra villagers. I think they want others if that has an extra villager a single one but I don't think it's a detrimental or is unexpected as the Chinese having six of them and no food.
I use to check out, when I see Goths. I hate the spam, it's just OP
Lmfao,me and my wacky strategies COULD STILL take the red side after he surrendered and from this point forward WIN the game
2 winning compositions from me on this game specifically would be:
Long bows(all range upgrades done fastest) + trebs up on imp
Or castle age rams and light cav/pike
Low elo legend casting a low elo legend game!
T90, I've been thinking.
There seems to be two kinds of low ELO player. There is the player who is loose on build orders, unfamiliar with the meta, etc. I propose a second class of low ELO player who is very familiar with the meta, makes strategic chooses and follows build orders based on the situations they're presented with, but are held back by poor APM and reaction times.
I feel I'm definitely the latter. It is an awkward space to occupy on the ladder. Being dumped on by fast castling try hards yet owning the actual noobies and meta-ignorant.
FML
I had a game once with goth agains britons, where the other play just typed "GG" and quit, because he thought Britons had not chance against goth
Not sure why red was so deadset on forward castle against imp goths. He deserves that loss.
Low elo or not. You are asking to get trebbed
I’m wanting to get into Aoe2 DE. I have AoE2 Age of Kings, and Aoe2 The Conquerors. I’m wanting to play on voobly. Will I have to buy everything again or can I install AOC and then buy Aoe2 De on voobly and it will work?
In like 1300 elo team games on arena I got sick of going full random and then the goths kill me so I now go Malay and go full 2 hands.
You pick malay and don't do an elephant rush? :O
Quick question: is Voobly still the place to play elo games?
Dude his mom called he had to do to bed
How do I even play ranked with DE? Everywhere I look on Voobly I only see older game compatibility.
You just buy De and go to multiplayer, De is not on Voobly
I’m a simple man, I see Goths, I hit like