Experiments Just Solved Several Mysteries About Venus, So Is There Life?
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about new discoveries from Venus
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0:00 Venus updates and discoveries
0:35 Why does Venus spin backwards?
2:15 New proposition: ancient moon
4:25 Life of Venus may be possible
6:40 Why scientists believe life may be possible
7:55 UV Absorber mystery could be just chemistry
9:40 Water and atmosphere
12:30 Future missions
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Anton: to the point scientific. No mumbo jumbo. No click baits. A humble approach to different studies. Cudos!
I feel like a comment section attached to a video is supposed to have comments related to the video's content. I'm fairly certain he knows what he does and likely doesn't need you to randomly point it out after he's been doing it for years.
@@TheGreyLineMatters I'm certain he appreciates someone boosting the algorithm.
@@andreahughes1155 Okay, so change the sentence. "Anton: Much like Venus, he keeps outputting content with no mumbo jumbo, no clickbait, and a humble approach to the sciences. Kudos*!" How hard is that...
@@TheGreyLineMatters I don't know why you are making a big deal about nothing..
@@TheGreyLineMattersdid you like your own comments?... instantly they had 1 Like?
The best thing about Venus is how many forms of life mimicry it has.When we make a Venus-proof biosignature detector it will be almost perfect.
Haha that's a really good way of looking at it, actually.
All fun and games until we can’t make a Venus-proof biosignature detector!
Each thought to me is a solar flare, which shifts us into parallel worlds!! It’s hard here!!! I’m a peaceful dude, yet my life here has been super difficult!!🥹
We’re each a mini universe!!🌌
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Are you and I sculpting together as a team or as individuals??? 🧑🎨 Using the moon as a tool!!! 🪨 The Sun is the eye!!👁️
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@@oberonpanopticon: "And now, for the breaking news of the day. In a shocking announcement, NASA disclosed earlier today that Venus is actually just a single giant cancer cell."
Lol😆
"Hot and somewhat deadly"
Describes the Mojave desert just fine, but Venus?
I love Anton's low key irony. 😂❤
Patrolling Venus almost makes ya wish for a Mojave
@@oberonpanopticon lol, right?
When a robot cant handle it, its bad.
"Hot and somewhat deadly."
(FISTO has entered the chat)
Yeah…a *real* knee slapper……
Decades ago I remember reading in Scientific American that the Venusian planetary surface regularly gets so hot and partially molten that the entire surface subsumes. A very different type of volcanism.
Glad Landis finally got his mission. He was one of the people who got me interested in it. Well, him and the entire Soviet space program.
Every time Anton talks about Venus I yearn for cloud cities.
These Venusian cloud cities would be the most romantic cities in the entire solar system.
I often wonder if we will be able to develop some kind of organism that could survive in the atmosphere, reproduce and help terraform the planet.
Me too
@@MenGrowingTOWinhmm, Venusian cloud algae sounds like some spec Evo stuff to me
@@alisenoweirddudo6898 Yeah agree, just a pity because of its Earth like qualities.
It's great that scientists have made new strides in discovering the mystery of Venus! Solving some long-standing questions about this planet will certainly open up many new potential research directions.
Yes. Long live the scientific method.
We know that sulfuric acid is exactly water+sulfur dioxide and sulfur dioxide is very common in volcanism. So, the water that was in Venus is probably now Sulfuric Acid.
Because there's SO3 (sulfur trioxide) also, right?
@stevengill1736 can you explain the importance please, in this respect, of the presence or absence of SO3? Thx
@carolcollins4878 how does that affect what @fikretyet was saying about water being assimilated into H2SO4?
This was going to be my question too.
Sulphuric acid can also be a stand in in other theorietical life processes. But ya, no data. Just theory.
Thanks for your hard work, Anton! You're the best! ❤
thank you
How is there a comment from 2 hours ago, when I saw published 28s ago?
@@MartinRonky Perks of being a member - you get early uploads for all new videos.
@@whatdamathlikely what happened is this. if it had an atmosphere consisting of 3 bar worth of nitrogen gas which it seems to have still, and an ocean about the same mass as earth's, then what happened is this. due to its proximity to the sun, and an over abondance of atmosphere, the oceans began to boil becoming water vapor. as more and more water became water vapor, the greenhouse effect would runaway, causing surface temperatures to reach thousands of degrees, leading to the breakdown of water into hydrogen and oxygen. the hydrogen would excape out of the atmosphere into space taking huge amounts of heat with it. while the roughly 90 atmospheres worth of oxygen gas would need something to bond to. burning up and consuming all carbon on and below the surface of the planet, gradually converting the entire atmosphere into co2 . Venus may have originally had more carbon than earth which may have made the problem even worse. so Venus now would be a very much cooled off version of the hell it once was.
to also clarify, while it would have been ballooned up with a water vapor atmosphere, the surface pressure would have been at around 180 atmospheres, and Venus may have even grown in size visually compared to now. with temperatures of well over a thousand degrees, and constant fires and atmospheric explosions erupting across the planet it would have been a true hellscape.
This is all interesting especially with learning about the Thunderbolts projects ❤
Thank you for your relentless curiosity and passion for sharing knowledge, Anton! It’s appreciated very much.
One theory I find interesting, Its that Venus had a big impact that flipped it axle, while the water boiled off, aggravating the surface temperature.
That is a very plausible theory, especially with this chemical reaction that traps water newly discovered. Unfortunately, there is no debris around Venus that hints of a collision, at least none yet found.
I really want them to find out that the thing that became Mercury and the thing that became Venus used to be a binary planet system with a decaying orbit, would explain some things. I am not sure that is possible though, Mercury has a boatload of iron, so it was probably a gas giant core that somehow tangled with Jupiter way back.
@@wheeljork Being a gas giant early on the Solar system could messed with Venus orbit.
A collision in relatiely later history would explain its volcanic character
That would still work with the theory that Venus’ rotation is related to the impact that formed earths moon from a glancing impact from a rogue type planet in the early solar system
Or spat out of Jupiter.
I'm loving these system planets updates. Very interesting.
I love Anton and his enthusiasm for everything! Long live Anton!
One of the best science based channels. Keep up the good work.
Hot sulfur trioxide.... yikes!
Err, Venus must really get hammered during these big CMEs...2031 for a mission? I'll be 78, hope to see it!
I was so tired last night and put this on and fell asleep. (to be weird) I fell a sleep to your soothing voice. (Chuckle) hope you get the humour
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
So much to look forward to in future space activities!
Um. Could you cover some optimistic advances in longevity? 🤔
All mass matter and photons travel at the same velocity. Longevity only comes from great health and no interference from other people. Murderers, cannibalism kidnappers.
@3:11 We are the Knights that say NEITH!!!
I was just looking for a new video from you. ❤
He uploads on a schedule, almost without fail every day.
Great job teaching us
Hi Anton, always interested in your scientific explanations. Best wishes from Australia
Why did the comment on UAP Disclosure become hidden, Anton?
If we can't figure out if there's life on Venus or not, we have no chance with exoplanets.
Depends on what life is there. But for most life, you're right.
Probably, in terms of biosignatures. Hence why an unambiguous technosignature is the holy grail
When the flying saucers start landing on Times Square and the aliens begin to shoot off their death ray guns you’ll be humming a different tune.
Non believers always scoff until it’s too late. Then they’re really sorry.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. ✌️🙂
I agree with this top comment. Dude always to the point, good science, interesting and entertaining! Thanks, I’ve been watching these for years now. We all appreciate it
fantastically fascinating. genius designed atmospheric-chemical experiments.
"Potentially" somewhat deadly - in the same way that getting punched in the face might potentially be offensive 🤣
There is high potential and low potential. There is low potential of a person enjoying being punched in the face, yet there are people who literally pay to get punched, kicked, abused, humiliated…. Potential is there.
Thank you Anton!! I always get excited when I see these pop up in my notifications :)
A question, people keep saying Venus lost its water, but how much of that water was bound up in sulfuric acid? There's a lot of sulfuric acid in the Venusian atmosphere.
Thanks!
Thank you Mark
Most excellent.
Hello Petrov, greetings from Romania. I am very curious about your opinion regarding this topic and the new information that is coming to light. Could you make a video about this and share your opinion on the topic? Thank you, Paul, and I wish you a wonderful day!
I am genuinely very interested in hearing your thoughts. 😁😁🤗
Yay new Anton video!
yep good video BS science ... they ignored the difference in Solar pull and radiation and counter spin ... making their results useless ... and the experiments a waste of time and money ... we already know stuff can live in sulfuric acid ... or volcanoe vents ... and all they have done is prove that again ... after we have seen it visually already
I’ve been subscribed to Anton since 2017 when I was 12 years old. I’ve been immersed in astronomy because of him. I am now 19 and now pursuing Law unfortunately because i am too dumb for maths but still astronomy fascinates me more than anything
But this channel was originally about maths. The channel name was literally Whatdamath. Maths is just another subject but, unfortunately, most maths concepts are based on simpler concepts. So you only have to miss one step before you find the material being taught seems to be in a foreign language. That's not being dumb, it's just missing a vital piece of the puzzle.
Very cool! Thank you!
Even life was just complex chemistry until sentients applied aesthetic meaning to it.
Patreon gang! Love seeing my other username halfway through the list lol
"stopped spinning because of the drag from a really dense atmosphere".... i've never heard of that. Pretty cool.
Thanks Anton!
1:16 Why not an early collision like Earth except this one came from above or below the ecliptic that ended up diverting the spin like Uranas except that it just so happened to end up flipped upside down.
I hope the next Venus mision takes pictures of what´s left of the Veneras... If there is something left.
Fascinating.
Love it 🦄
Hey Anton if it's possible could Take a look at the patients an shapes and theories.. Terrance Howard is promoting if you can... Your a wonderful person Anton love you videos an just would like your opinion on it. Thank you
thank you liked and shared
We need to return to the Moon now!
Build heavy industry there, remove it from the Earth, combat pollution problems on our Planet, and open space exploration as a bonus.
Thank you Anton.
@anton Didn't Velikovsky say it was a moon of like saturn or jupiter?
Announcing first ever extra-terrestrial life: "so, was there life, or what, lol" xD
I’m not sure what potentially somewhat deadly means but it seems kinda potentially scary lol love you brother
Very interesting future missions,thanks Anton👍😊
"potentially somewhat deadly"
anton is a brave man lol
thanks man
Venus retro grade spin isnt all that hard to figure out. It has mercury pulling on it far more often than other planets. Everytime mercury zips by, it will slowly alow the planets rotation one way in favor of the way it pulls as it passes by.
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
(Love the ending music 😊)
Oh Anton you are a tease!
3:13 I wonder how any of these ideas are compatible with angular momentum conservation. Are they? 🤔
I've had this Venus moon theory since I was a kid after found out our moon would eventually get boosted out of earth's orbit. However, if that IS the case there should be Venus rocks on earth and the moon. Might be hard to tell though, since Venus would have been drastically different then.
Hello wonderful person. Anton
Are you goitto cover the comet that crossed the skies in Portugal recently? There's a lot of cool footage on the internet.
Somewhat deadly had me laughing 😆
I have a sinking feeling that we will find no evidence of life anywhere in the solar system, other than on Earth. This is kind of a scary proposition. Perhaps we are far more rare than anyone guessed.
We found extant microbes on the surface of Mars in the 70s
@@robyn051 No we didn't.
I doubt we are going to find life anywhere else in the Galaxy, as per the Firstborn hypothesis. The universe is not that old and it's entirely plausible that we are the first to survive our Great Filter. I don't see this as all that scary. I'm kind of relieved, tbh. If we did come across intelligent life, it will be far more advanced than us and when a more advanced civilization comes in contact with a less advanced civilization, the results are always disasterous, as with our own history with Europeans coming in contact with Africans and enslaving them and allowing countries like China and India on the world stage.
@@PMMcIntyreTell that to the team who made the discovery. They still insist they found life.
Sadly, extraterrestrial life is treated as fantasy...put into the same category as gods, bigfoot, ghosts, fairies, etc.
I think where we come from Extreme circumstances and these circumstances producing life from non life is going to be winning the lottery x a trillion..even rarer when you think it's intelligent life
Easily my favorite planet.
Helps to have a magnetosphere; not to lose water in the inner solar system it seems. Noteworthy, for everyone looking for Terran sized exoplanets in the goldilocks zone, this might have to be a proposition, I.e. a magnetosphere surrounding a planet with liquid water.
I can't be expected to be here in the 2030s. thanks Anton
Ok well bye bye then.
So what is the mechanism for Earth keeping its water? Is it above some mass limit?
The magnetic field seems to help. Anton did a video on that very recently.
Because the water vapor condenses into rain clouds I’m pretty sure
Always great topics and analysis, thank you Anton ... Why can't people except every planet, every moon in our solar system as beautiful ?
Because of how they are composed and located we enjoy what is beautiful to us ... Tired of terms like, hellish, dead, etc. for these heavenly bodies which are the reasons the Earth was composed to bring higher life forms, let's respect, enjoy and study our solar system as it formed, there's only good in it... except cross path asteroids and comets, but even these may prove to be necessary.
That venus sample return mission is something I don't see happening in the 30s
I'm a long time fan, so this is just me trying to give constructive feedback. A little after 4:45, you do the "point to a paper right there" thing, but - at least on my WIN 10 desktop in Chrome - I don't see anything.
Nothing there in TH-cam app on Android either. Noticed the same thing on the previously released video.
Just guessing that when editing it wasn't clear what was being referred to.
@@mikebarushok5361 Yeah, I mean, I'm not bothered, just that if it doesn't actually add something there's no need to do it. Completely understandable if Anton doesn't regularly watch the full video after it's uploaded. Lord knows I wouldn't, at least not all the time.
I am wondering how the 3 planets..Venus, Earth, Mars were evolving thru 5B years, was Venus similar to earth, was Mars enough active to have heat to support life-were thru time all 3 similar...
Nature has surprisingly many ways how not to create life on other planets (over and over again!) 😂
The pancake mountains or dooms look possibly like habitat structures to me. Has any effort been made to examine the pancake geology?
Val Thor is on Venus. Many will know this again soon.
I thought Val Thor lived on Venus in a different dimension, that’s how it could be done.
"It isn't life, just complex chemistry." ...I'd point out that life *is* complex chemistry. :-)
You are fascinating and handsome. Thank you for both of those things. Hugs
"..It's Only a Composite Chemistry". Most commoners in the streets are No More then That.. Peace
I prefer the explanation that it might not be part of our solar system originally.
Venus need some attention now. Mars has had been explored a lot.
Nasa too busy burning tax payers money
Hot. Acid. Crazy pressure. Hard to get to. 🤷
@@friedrichjunzt There is more than just the planets surface to look at first of all. I dont know if we will be able to get probes long term on the planet. The USSR ones did really well to send back what they did, given the conditions on the planet.
Mars is the Barbie and Venus is the Cindy, the second best in the solar system! Not cool but still very interesting or even more interesting. How does an earth sized planet become so bad arsed? She’s probably the most powerful planet in the solar system !!!
Weve barely scratched mars surface lmao but yes venus is intersting maybe we should fund our space programs adequately so we can explore both. Way better use of money than killing eachother
The flipping of the spin axis due to non-symmetric axes DOES NOT CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF SPIN!
Thanks for all your hard work. Enjoying your vids!
Heres a theroetical for all of you. If we slam a sufficiently large comet from the belt onto the top of Olympus Mons, would the resulting friction be enough to restart Mars's core and revitalize the magnetosphere? The liquids from the comet should be enough to help reform the atmosphere, so long as it doesn't just get blasted away immediately by solar winds
So, Venus may have had a major collision, that changed its spin, Uranus may have had a major collision, that flip it over and Earth may have had a major collision that created the moon. Interesting.
Short answer maybe
A single rotation is longer than an earth year?
Somewhat hot planet
Venera-D planned for late 2020s. They say 3 research vehicles, hopefully.
Hi, doesn't fire make steam? And wouldn't lava cause a lot of steam and mist to create water on Earth ( in the beginning of time)?
I one day imagined how Mercury is so close to the Sun and how it is slowly being eroded and unable to keep an atmosphere. Perhaps in the time of the early Sun it had one.
I then imagined Venus increasing own atmosphere by accreting the star-blasted surface and possible atmosphere Mercury had so many millions or billions of years ago.
Venus' atmosphere is about 93 times thicker than Earth's. Something that size, the heat it holds, and the unusual rotation of Venus makes me wonder about a tremendous atmospheric drag slowly affecting the planet's spin. The mass of the terrestrial portion of the planet will move at a different speed the atmosphere and whatever the core is doing of the subterranean parts of Venus were layered like Earth's (core, inner core, mantle, etc). The heat and pressure on the surface could also keep the planet from swelling by its internal pressures, essentially squeezing out its heat and keeping it trapped in the atmosphere, making the atmosphere even thicker and more volatile. No more carbon-silicate cycle to absorb carbon.
All manner of possible reasons can be true as they would culminate to cause the present state of Venus. Why always one definitive explanation when it could be many?
The upper atmosphere is likely all that is left that may be able to allow biological chemistry. We have yet to find proof.
Just imagining things
I swear extraterrestrial life could have a massive flahsing billboard advertising it and scientists would still be skeptical, when will they finally realize their bias?!
Maybe Venus IS the moon . . Or Was the moon of a larger planet. ,that evaporated
12:07
So, this makes Venus outside of the sun's habitable zone.
More, for the same reason, red dwarfs may not have a habitable zone at all.
I always thought that Venus had moon similar in size to Earth:s and that it was responsible for its retrograde rotation when it spiraled in. Too bad I lacked the scientific credentials to even attempt to publish an academic paper . I salute the authors though.
❤
Is there any plans for a geological elemental and mineral survey ?
Currently the only way of seeing the geological surface is with radar, which only shows shape of ground features.
The India launched Chandrayaan-1 Luna mineral mapping mission used a optical spectrometer to map the minerals on Earth's moon's surface.
So that type of mapping would not be possible because of the thick clouds of Venus. Nor would laser mapping. Optical imaging would have to be at below cloud, where it starts to get hot, hot, damned it's hot.
The surface of Venus could possibly be covered with metallic minerals abound, especially in the rarer heavier elements. Just watch out for the pools of molten lead.
It's entirely plausible that a large moon could host as much life as our planet does. A moon about the size of Earth around a gas giant I think we might classify as 2 planets when technically one is a smaller moon. I mean how would we classify such solar system ?
🌎: One of my closest and dearest brothers.
Whether there's life on Venus or not, it's still a planet worth studying as it's a dark mirror of Earth. It shows us what will likely happen to Earth in half a billion years as the Sun gets hotter, and it serves as an example to look out for when studying terrestrial exoplanets. How many Earth 2.0s are there compared to Venus 2.0s, and how does a planet become one or the other?
It would be wild if life evolved to migrate in the more habital zone of venus's rotation !