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- Best 5 & 7 OPEN FIELD Commander Pairs in Rise of Kingdoms
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0:00 BEST Open Field Armies
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I will run 3 cav marches when belisarius will come out and i was thinking nev/Xy Joan/beli and huo/William but yeah i need math for this but this pairing seems the mlst well rounded
Love the spreadsheet!
Very good video. Please add Henry/YSG and Liu/Sargon - these two marches should be better then some of your combos.
Yes pls
Bro we want to see you playing other games
PC games or mobile games but not like ROK
Omniarch pumping out S tier video after S tier video. TY for taking the time to put together these videos so consistently!
Doing my best! Thank you! :)
This was singlehandedly one of the best commander pair video ive seen and really appreciate going this route through data, always scratches that theory crafting itch of mine cheers man
Great job Bro, very useful !
Great video love it thanks Omniarch!
Thank you, the video is more than wonderful and very useful. 😎😎
Subscribed for the massive effort to do this video.
Nice video omni, this is some good info. Reminds me of Wicky back in the day. Cheers
wick would never use a 1v1 simulator to compare open field marches. doesnt make any sense
@@goldgamingROK True but was more talking about in depth numbers, more content creaters should do this as wick was one of the last.
The amount of work to 1 video. Salute.
Thank you! Was lots of work :)
@@OmniarchOfficial Was a great video
Thank you!
Great vid 😊
Thank you! :) 🍻
That's funny...I run exactly the same 5 marches that you suggested for the 2 archer 2 inf 1 cav setup.
You know what you’re doing 👏😎
Would love to see your 3 infantry line up even with it not being the best combination. Some of us have the infantry health zenith skin. 😅
Interesting video. With Liu / Alex does it use museum relic, if so, is it level 1 or level 2? Thank you.
This is brilliant ...would love to get an actually investment order for the 10 commanders mentioned
Im glad you did this video because for the longest I’ve been wondering which pairings tend to have more sevs
Honestly prefer a march that takes less sevs so I can refresh & fight longer
Gracias por tus videos 👍👍
Great content! can you try 3-5 seconds battle? many battles don´t go to full just some hit and run. and try some ranged just for the flavor !!!
W video love your content bro
Love the in-depth approach. People gotta focus on making the best team of marches that work well together AND independently. I’ll be off work next Monday if you wanted to stream on YT… just sayin 😬
hello brother 2 questions .boudica arsu and zhuge herman? And on the other hand, what do you think of Guan Scipio and Tarik Liuchen? thanks for everything
Makes me wish I had a 2nd set of archer gear. Kind of surprised to see LC/Alex outperforming Gorgo/LC
I guess next kvk I will likely run
Zhuge/Herman
LC/Alex
Guan/Scipio
Nevsky/Joan
XY/William (im not sure if its worth upgrading to Huo or just keep saving sculptures at this point)
thx man
Thanks for watching :)
5:48 I wouldn’t mind seeing a full commander pairing list so ppl can fully know their options so Zhuge/YSG, Amani/Hermann, Cyrus/Hermann, Boudica/Henry, Henry/Zhuge, Henry/Ashur.
Even if you don’t do it maybe someone will read this & make a full spreadsheet of all possible pairings
i have herman and zhuge expert and i want bring 2 archer march for field.can you suggest me best combo
@@exoioz2827 the next best is Boudica & Ashur.
If you can get Zhuge, Hermann, Boudica, Ashur is all you need.
For older players like me, my 2 archer marches are Boudica/Zhuge, Amani/Hermann. Not the best but they get the job done.
Hermann makes any AOE Archer commander usable.
So Thutmose, Nebu, Cyrus, Amanitore, Zhuge, YSG, Ashur are your ideal pairings for Hermann
Zhuge basically pairs with all of the archers.
The weakest are Edward, Ramesses.
Ramesses needs a solid relic
@@realjohnlove can i replace boudica with henry
@@exoioz2827 they’re like the same age. Boudica is easier to access. You can get her heads from wheel. Henry you have to get him through MGE or get lucky in Legendary Tavern
He’s gonna be more expensive to get. The thing Henry has over Boudica is he’s not reliant on taking skill damage to activate one of his skills. Liu Che/Gorgo are the Anti-Boudica commanders. They don’t do skill damage so because of that 1 of Boudica’s skills (I think its the 3rd skill) is useless
If you are willing to probably putting 690 universals into Henry you can. His 3rd skill is only for rallying. Which makes him equal to Boudica against Liu
With all due respect to you and your efforts are much appreciated.
In actual war and murdurball the damage and trades from gorgo/lie is much better that Liu/alex . Idk how this sheet is calculating the dmg output
Great video! What do you tell your barber to get that haircut?
Alex is great with LC, but I don't think its worth spending sculptures to max. Its only good for players who already have him expertise, but personally I will just get my Gorgo sculptures from the MGE and work with that, since you'll need less for exp her. + Shes great in garrisons and rallies so a little bonus
I can field two archer marches, but I don't anymore. My experience is that they are first targeted in the field. Players want to eliminate the AOE threat quickly, so player psychology is a thing. My infantry are doing the best in 2024. Ty for the video.
I rarely comment but you make great content. Keep it up!
Thank you! 😁
Nice! I could sleep kinda early🤣
Lets gooo! :D
In your opinion, what would be the best garnish duo? without a specific troop (LapuLapu with Heráclito?)
Now this is gooooood
You should make a video testing meta kvk1 and 2 commanders, sun trying sun tzu or Saladin and see how hard they fall off
i use 3inf/ 2cav / 2arch. Liu che/alex, guan,sargon, scipio/tariq, nev/joan, huo/will, zhuge/herman, and boudica/ash. It works very well for me so three inf could be viable depending on how you pair it.
Hello Omniarch & everyone else!
I’ve been saving up some (300+) legendary commander sculps, but don’t know where to put them now.. I have a 5551 Nevsky, but CC (5521, single relic) isn’t strong enough and not worth putting sculps into. Do I expertise Nevsky and still run CC, or do I put Joan towards 5551 (currently still 1111 and far from lvl 60).
Another option is to put Zhuge from 5111 to 5551 and run with a Hermann 5211 which I’ll then be working on!
Or option 3, get Scipio (lvl 50) from 5511 to 5551 and Liu Che (lvl 40) 5211 to whatever sculps is left!
Equipment is pretty decent for Nevsky and Zhuge, Scipio equi is not good..
Thank you in advance! 🙏
Great video but these bots must be stopped as well xD
Keep it up Omniarch!
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Thanks! :)
I was wondering about beli's expertise maybe its not like all the marches will deal 12% more damage individually it might be like for example if enemy is surrounded by 3 marches then it'll receive 6% total damage as 2% per march and so on.
Hello Omni! My marches are, Expertised Nev with 5515 Joan( 3 gold gear and rest are epics including accesories) 5511 Zhuge with 5511 Hermann( gears are all epics), 5511 Scipio P with 5511 Liu Che( all epic gears). What do you think should I do next? Thank you
Probably work on expertising Liu Che and get better gear for them! :)
I am a f2p cav player. My 5 troops are Huo&William, Jeanne&Nevsky, XY&Mehmed, Boudica&YSG and Scipio&Liu Che. What do you think that I should focus on next? Beli prime or zhuge or herman? (Note: I have 15% cav health city theme + germany civilization, so total 20% more stats and special units for my cavs. Therefore, I would like to keep my 3cav/1archer/1inf style)
Ayoooo 70k subs? Man, the quality of your production, I could've sworn you had like 100k+ subs 🥲
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This is so nice thank you sir
What I got from this is:
Zhuge Herman
Ashur YSG
Nevsky Joan
Guan Skippy
Liu Che Alex
Are the best five pairs
lol just LC alone, the honored one
@@WillofD18 whoops meant to put Alex 😂😂
strong video!!!
HENRY the most ghosted/undervalued commander in Rok! Anyway, great vid. Ty
100%, only archer mains know that he’s one of the best
@@ostreych3403 exactly
Even i know he is op only gorgo and lc or scipio lc is a counter to how tanky he is even then its not like its his kryptonite more like its a 10% nullification of Henry honestly henry and boudica can be seen as interchangable and be run iver each other in most cases especially if your lucky and get a 50 or 80 head mge it may be worth tossing in him over boudica for some people
Hey omniarch, I have watched a lot of your videos and like them a lot! It’s great content! I wonder if you could give me your thoughts on what I should invest in before my kvk3. I have like 550 golden sculptures and I can invest in expertise one SOC commander. I have thinking of Liu Che but I’m not sure if i should do that or split them between two commanders? I don’t have great secondary commander at this moment. No one from KVK2. I got like Pyrrhus 5511 and and a lot of epic. I also got expertised minamoto and aethelflaed expertised. Would love to know your thoughts on this .
Make Liu Che with Athel as secondary. Very good synergy because of Liu Che slow and 20% more damage from Athel when the enemy is slowed down is a thing
Hi 👋 I want to ask why you didn't test Henry?
Great video 👍
Wasn't a top contender unfortunately!
We need the best infantry commanders after new relics pls.. which one is now best pair for Liu Charles or Alex I'm confused 🤔
It's much difference with Guan 5115 then 5155 with Scypio?
1 thing about dps on herman ashur is that ashur does 2500 to a single target after with the second part of 1st skill ading 1k to the main target so if the dummy is a 1v1 zhuge does 2k vs ashurs 2.5k and vs 5 zhuge will do more damage in field a 5 target circle almost always hits max enemies even if you march turnes away from a ball when using the skill also zhuge has univeral march speed and ho vs ashur with off territory defense and march speed maming zhuge just better in most cases in a qvq off territory ashur herman may win as we can easily say that ashurs exp will be used multiple times vs a skill cycle in a ball where he may not get any use from bonus stats
im cav main entering season 3 very soon should i max Nevsky or whowo to be primary with John of ark
Nevsky I think it’s better
This is assuming all your aoe is full hitting always right?
The biggest issue with this testing is that it isnt taking into account the fact that your softer armies damage output drops extremely fast as they lose health against a real enemy.
XY/William is really high in the cav list for example exactly because of this. Ask anyone who actually uses that march though; it might still get decent kills, but it is NOT trading well and the vast majority of players would never consider running it. Huo/William is MILES better in practice, though is a lot lower here due to having single target.
(Guan Scipio is in a similar, though less extreme, position. Guan just melts these days.)
PS: comparing this across troop types is more or less entirely worthless due to how huge a factor march speed is in real world field. Cav still outperform basically all non cav marches other than scipio/liu in the field in the hands of a player that knows what theyre doing purely off march speed advantage, they just have lower numbers on paper because of lower AOE.
I just returned to the game after 2 years and the returning event lets me unlock anything so this is a massive help. I'm thinking of running cav#1 Nev/Joan(best gear 500gh needed), inf#1 Liu(Need to spend 700gh)/Alex), cav#2 XY/William(Will only 521 would need to spend GH to get to 5551), inf#2 Guan/Mehmed(next best equip) and lastly archer Ash(Needs 700gh)/YSG.
Trying to use ysg as he max already I could get Huo and max Scipio to ditch xy,mehmed but going to get very expensive for gold heads(have2000)...Other option is just run 4 marches, Nev/Joan, Liu/Alex, Huo/William, Guan/Scipio either way spends all my gold heads. Let me know what you think, cheers.
Can we somewhere get this sheet? Would like to share it in my friends discord
Bro thumbs up but I gotta say boudica sux nowadays straight facts
4:22 - You said you paired it against the troop type they do worst against for ‘fairness’ but wouldn’t a commander that does extra damage against a specific troop type ‘i.e. Huo’s 5% bonus damage to archers’ and others, suffer as a result of this bias? Just wondering, sorry if this was explained and i missed it but I thought it worth bringing up.
The idea was simply to be as strict as possible with the results so as to not assume a march will perform much better in the sim as it would in-game
Best rok content ever.
Thank you! 😁
Hubiera sido interesante ver también a Henry en esas pruebas
can u do a top 3 rally garrison of every troop type?
Where is Sargon/ Liu che ? Good vídeo tho , love ya from spain ❤
I'm surprised Henry YSG was ghosted in your spreadsheet. As archer main, i ran it all kvk as my third archer march and it is quite good. Everything else looks really good. Thanks for the video.
That march didn't do so well for me. I'm in the same boat, it was my third march, and I have no crit gear on it yet, so I suspect that's why. My top two archer marches have full archer set, full crit. (Zhuge/Hermann, Boudica/Ashur)
@@TheClawNinja yeah i have 3 full crit. I'm sure that helps a lot.
Omniarch, you're now Wick Gaming 2.0
Idk about that but I try!
Wick is built different
I think Omniarch is in his own lane
Because they both embrace use of math, and spreadsheets
@@wildlifehaven8029 so does 444BusDriver
What about LC/Sargon not a good combo? Thanks for video
Not really, I tested after the video and it's in 9th place for infantry. Scipio, Alex, and Gorgo are all better pairs for LC
Why didn't you test Sargon with Liu Che? It would make the most sense, with two infantry marches you'd pair Guan and Scipio, and then decide between Liu/Sargon or Liu/Alex. The extra basic attack proc from Liu has a lot of potential with Sargon, with a higher expected average damage if you can keep cycling the active skill
You should’ve tried henry with Ashur also.
I am still learning. Why should I use Ottoman Empire or france when I am running Inf. Can't I use the Roman empire ?
Ottoman gives more skill damage.
France gives faster healing and infantry health.
I run Rome for the faster march speed helps in open field and the defense is nice . I also spend more so I don’t care about Frances healing. It’s ultimately France is great for F2P
Where as Rome is more niche players.
any idea for next infantry Commander???
Cool test and interesting video. You couldn't have tested the best special troop civ with each troop type? Anyways yeah this just proved again cavs are way behind in commanders. Yes march speed helps but the amount of damage collectively with aoe is far behind. Which is why cav mains are justified in being pissed and deserve better commanders.
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A video about the best marches for players that only play on phone would be nice I guess they would be the best lazy marches 😂
Running 5 marches
Hou/William
Nev/Joan
Xy/mina (double relic)
Guan/Scipio
Boudicca/zhuge
What should I change in this, is it good or mid?
XY/Mina Is rough 😂
Xy Justin
Depend on your equipment and armament. Hard to change if all those 5 march already full legend equipment. If not, then change your Xy/Mina and start saving for Liu Che or new Infa. Pair Liu Che with Alex or wait for the new Infa in 3-4 months.
Lui Che should be primary with Scipio - huge, huge difference
can you post that spreadsheet?
Personal opinion: they should make things like siege unit commanders and equipment, civilizations that have new siege unit troops, and basically siege armies instead of just archer, cavalry, and infantry.
hey, what website is this or program for simcraft ?
Linked in description!
Do you think gorgo can be good with other commander than liu che? I mean better than ok trade? 😅
Not really,you see when you pair an smite damage commander with another smite damage commander it gets really good for you.For example:Gorgo and Liu Che,which is currently in my opinion easily the best infantry march.They buff each other's active skill with their normal damage,making you deal lots of attack damage but also lots of smite damage.
So just get them.
@@tonkgaming8153 i alors have gorgo 5514 and maxed liu che and it does amazing trade. Scipio and liu are good but to me they dont really buff each others like gorgo does for liu che
I am a infa player i use gorgo/LC and Guan/Scipio p.
Have u tried gorgo alex?
Not the best
All this crazy maths and i get 100m plus sevs a kvk almost 3 to 1 trades running 3 cav 1 and 1
Archers FTW :)
I thought Huo and navsky was better for calvary. I'm surprised by the research
Best march Margaret/Cordoba
You had me at math
Its lit 🍻
How to use ranged...
Im very satisfied with mine
Nevsky Joan
Huo William
Guan Scipio
Liu Che Alex
Zuge Herman
5 marches:
1. Nevsky Joan
2. Liang Herman
3. Liu Alex
4. Guan Scipio
5. Huo William - Ashur YSG Boudica
lui che alex only march i use
Joan prime is much better then you say theres better targets than joan so doesn't get targeted as much also joan nev is used by gt in kvks and other top kingdoms its better then nev joan
Joan is support tree. She would be more tanky as primary when paired with a Nevsky. You lose a good amount of damage but Im sure you'll live longer
Right but belisarius is less tanky than Nevsky (and probably Huo for that matter)
Exactly. Can you run with Joan Nevsky and see what kind of data you get?
In short, top 3 cavs = anything with Joan.
Nev ysg ??
Since Belly prime and Eleanor are not in the game this is premature. Belly needs AOe so that is XY Joan or William pair. I doubt Belly last skill has no cool down or percentage to hit. As written u literally hit a target with 3 marches and Belly gives u 6 all damage forever. I have to see that for real before I buy it. But Belly is 1 target so a flag or fort would only be his use.
thank got im not one of the 68%
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Is Alex better than gorgo for open field?
You didn't put gorgo in any list
She's on there. I prefer Alex for march speed and instant damage
I run 4 Cavs and 1 infantry 🫣
Zoinks scoob 👀 that's impressive
@@OmniarchOfficial is it really tho 🫠 I feel like I did myself in kind of shot myself in the foot. But all in all I’m having fun so I guess that’s what matters 😅🥲
LoL those first three comments
RIGHT lmao
what about Liu Che with Sargon? Doesnt work in general?
Works but the problem is that Sargon damage isn't instant and you need to stay on the target for 5 seconds to get the full skill dmg output from Sargon.
where is henry
Please download an Arabic translation
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I did! Please refresh! :)
Excuse me, but what about Henry? Anyone who makes rankings like this completely ignores Henry even though he is one of the best open field commanders. This is because all major content creators have completely ignored him and know nothing about his strong performance Only the Archer Mains know his potential: support tree, march speed, massive nuke and an inconspicuous tankiness because of his enormous damage reduction that no other commander has.
Great list though
He's completely viable but not a top performer. No AoE, no debuff, conditional march speed... Very hard to compete with Ashurbanipal, Boudica, Hermann, or Zhuge Liang unfortunately. Even YSG outputs much more damage. I'm not saying he's bad, but he really shines as a rally leader.
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