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- Rock Shox damper Monarch R Full Service
Today we have a tutorial of rebuilding or doing a complete overhaul of the Rock shox Monarch R shock/damper. How To: Rock Shox Air shock damper Monarch Full Service
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it was very helpful in combination with the manual.
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Super Service Video. Danke.
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i have a rockshox monarch rt3 shock and i recently did a full service but when it came to the part to unscrew the shimstack nut the whole shaft unscrewed. i didn't think much of it and i proceded with the service and cleaned the compresion and rebound adjustment rods inside the eyelet(ps i couldn't take the nut off since i didn't have blocks neither someone who could lend me a pair) so i put the shock back together with the correct rockshox 7w oil (thats what is says to use in the rockshox service manual) and the ifp depth to the correct level. also the damper body was scratched on the inside like the one in the video, like exactly the same type of scrathes, but i could barrely feel them with my finger nail so i put the shock back together. and then dissaster: the rebound wasn't working as it was stuck in the slowest setting no matter how much i turned the rebound dial. also the lockout worked fine, to my surprise , it was only the rebound.
now i'm thinking of dissasemble the shock again and try to clean the shimstack as i think there might be some crud built up in the holes that go in it. i am desperate for solutions since my local bike shop asks for the equivalent of 100 euro for a full service. and he is a picky guy and he will probably tell me to replace the damper body. and the seals are brand new also. has anyone had this problem? can it be fixed easily or is my shock bricked? worst case scenario i just buy a new shock but that won't be so easy to do since i don't have a lot of money and i rarely find shocks in my size(200x57). i'll keep you updated if i fix it.
Go to Sram's website, download your model's manual
@@Sir-Kay i looked at it before doing the service but they don't take apart the shaft. they only go as far as the shimstack and then they put everything back together.
i guess the shaft unscrewing instead of the shimstack nut is a common issue since i've seen the same thing happening in a video.
and sram doesen't give troubleshotting steps if something goes wrong :/
@@rob9143 Trust me, I would help you if I could but, I don't have the model you're talking about so, clearly I'm the wrong person to give any advice. I'm sure you'll find a video on your particular model on TH-cam though.
otimo, e referente a regulagem de retorno, como se faz a manutencao dela?
good job. a curiosity, the air bubbles that come out before putting the ball, how can you be sure that there are no others left? does the roch shox procedure involve vacuum or this system? where can I find the attachment to let the piston come out with the air pump? Thank you
Tip for the bubbles, after filling the fluid in the can, touch the bubbles with you're fingers. Than install the damper and you won't have bubbles at all.
Thanks for stopping by. The attachment I used in pumping out the piston can be found on Aliexpress just search for it. I got mine here in Poland via their local site called Allegro dot pl so, check to see if they ship oversees. The air bubble thing requires patience, just wait till u no longer see any air coming out, it will never be 100% bubble-free but, hey! if I get 99% out,I'm good. As for vacuuming, I can't remember any vacuuming or any additional thing going on. Look, this is about as it gets with this tiny thing. This videos was an 100% tear down. So, follow the video one more time and it should solve any & every servicing issue with this particular model. Hope this answers your question & if not, feel free to let me know.
Hello, I would be extremely grateful to you if you tell me, I have Rock shox Rl (Debon air), the first problem was the loss of the lock, the rebound worked, then I drove in the winter and my speed sharply decreased by 2 times in some pit, I lower it the air becomes even smaller, the idea is that this should not be, what could be the problem? The other day I want to make out, is this a problem in the damper or not? Maybe you know what could be the problem and how to solve it. Before that, I didn’t disassemble the shock absorbers, so I don’t understand their design
I'm afraid I don't have that same damper and I might not be able to help but, I will tell you this, strip the whole thing down to pieces(that's of course if you can't afford to pay a mechanic to do it)clean and do a full service - replace all seals then, try to find the diagram of the damper in the service manual, that was exactly what I did. I'm sure you'll be able to do it if you follow the instructions there. Let me know if this helped.
Hello tank you for your vid! I can't find the complete kit I got the 50 hour kit, so I am lacking the seals and o ring from the damper body so as the o ring inside the damper shaft. Do your think it is strictly necessary to replace those? Tank you
50hrs kit won't hurt it's better than nothing but, If I'm taking the damper all apart to the bone, I'd just rather get the right kit and do it all at once.
Best video exact same as my one
You're welcome, don't hesitate to hit that Like button for more.
@@Sir-Kay already done, got one question do you know where i can find the Rockshox table for setting the IFP valve, my model is monarch R, thought it would be wise to check but can not find information anywhere, i see you have set your IFP valve to 50.5 mm (video time 2:36) would it be safe to set the same, thanks
Monarch R MM
@@bowchickawowwow7282 That would depend on what your shock dimension is, for instance mine is 165 x 38mm Rockshox recommended an IFP depth of 50.6mm if yours is the same them go for it, if not, try to find your damper's dimension and get back to me.
Hi, RS specify using a special clamp in the vise on the secure the damper body so the IFP doesnt move during the filling procedure. I see you didnt do this. Did you fin this to be problematic?
I dont have those clamp and want to do the procedure myself.
I've serviced my damper since 2018 that I've owned this Bike and not a single problem, and you know what? this particular 200hr service was the best thing that has happened to this bike other than the dropper post. I used to do the 40hr service, it helped for a few rides then it was pogo stick again until I invested in the 200hr kit and since over a year now, all I do is dust off my stanchions after every ride and apply a tiny amount of stanchion spray to keep it grit free and my bike always rides like new. If I can do it, you can too.
Do you know the shims stack order?
If yours hasn't been tampered with yet, all you have to do is, take a picture of it and/or rearrange them in reverse order as you took them out. Hope that helps.
My rebound adjustment don't work anymore after service 😃 have any advice what's wrong?! Thanks 👍
It's happened to the best of us. If you trust your abilities, you can tear your damper down and follow this video but, I'd advice you take the picture of every stage of the tear down just incase you get lost and don't remember what goes into what, you know what I mean? because, the worst case scenario is you just put it back together the way you disassemble it.
Which pressure has to be put in the nitrogen/air chamber? In psi if it’s possible. Great video.
@@user-nn4wj8gk9s maybe different model o year of construction. If it says 350 it’s 350 😃
250psi or 17.2bars for this particular model however, make sure to download the right manual for your model from the Sram's website, it should clearly state the right amount of pressure recommended for you model. Hope that helps.
Monarch RL is 500psi...Just had to buy a Rockshox pump that does 600psi....
hi there, i was wondering what oil you put into the damper body (the one that the IFP goes into)?
@@Sir-Kay thank you so much
@@Sir-Kay again, thank you alot, this is the fnal piece to my puzzle to be in able too rebuild, thanks for turorial, helped alot
If you mean the oil used on the IPF o-rings it's the Sram butter and the one I used in filling the IPF damper body, you know the hollow part was the Rock Shox 3WT suspension fluid. Hope that helps.
what's the little tool to remove the port cover ?
If you mean the tool at 0:53, that's the valve remover tool. And to remove the IFP piston from the damper body, you'll need the monarch adaptor, just type it in amazon and look for the one that matches your exact shocks. You can check your user manual from Sram or Fox or whatever suspension brand you use, I'm hoping these helps, if not, feel free to be specific. Thanks for stopping by.
@@Sir-Kayvalve remover tool , found it 😁
@@sebastiengiovannelli8556 Ohh, glad I could help.
Hello! The instructions for the Monarch RL say that you need to pump 500 psi, 34.4 bar into the damper, is that really necessary?
No way does it say 500psi, are you kidding me now?
No lies my friend, that is clearly said in service manual - 2016-monarch-rl-rt-xx-service-manual from official sram site - Shock Lock Tunes
Air Pressure
RL
500 psi, 34.4 bar
RT
500 psi, 34.4 bar
XX 430
500 psi, 34.4 bar
XX 380
350 psi, 24 bar
XX 320
350 psi, 24 bar
XX 219
350 psi, 24 bar @@Sir-Kay
And also has RockShox Fork / Damper Pump 600 PSI @@Sir-Kay
@@ia333 Wow! Well, I only have Monarch R and it asks for only half the pressure required in its bigger brothers. Whatever you do, just read your manual, those engineers know better. How did you find our channel by the way?
I thought monarch r and rl is almost same, need to check manual for R version, maybe depends of released year. Found while looking maintenance video. @@Sir-Kay
Привет , я бы был безумно вам благодарен , если подскажите , у меня Rock shox Rl (Debon air) , первая проблема была - пропажа блокировки , отскок работал , далее ездил зимой и у меня резко на какой то яме уменьшился ход в 2 раза , спускаю воздух ещё меньше ход становится , такого по идее быть не должно , в чем может быть проблема ? На днях хочу разобрать , это проблема в бачке демпфера или же нет? Может знаете в чем может быть проблема . До этого амортизаторы не разбирал , поэтому не понимаю в их конструкции
Либо стэкдаун либо пропало давление в ifp камере.
@@kunar2656 давно решил уже
Hola. tengo el mismo amortiguador pero tiene un pequeño rayón en el primer número de serie y ya no puedo entrar a la página de SRAM para saber la presión.
podrías ayudarme para saber a qué presión debe de ir
saludos
Hola. Puedes enviarme una dimension de tu amortiguador: por ejemplo 165 x 35 mm? Si me la envias sere capaz de ayudarte :-)
Amistad @@Sir-Kay
Do you recommend regular standard service oil or the new maxima plush ? ( 15wt plush not found on internet only the 3wt )
I don't know those other ones so, I wouldn't recommend them. Thank God I stocked on the 3wt & 15wt a while a go, I believe I'm straight for the next 2 seasons. Keep searching, you'll find them, I'm sure.
man, pls. u can show full shim stack?
@@Sir-Kay the fool took off all the shims and did not remember the assembly order. now I have a handful of rings on my table and I don't know the assembly order :)
13:20 time
mb u have source video file without cute and have more info about it? :)
@@megayurich8268 I am somebody! Repeat after me, now go ahead, you can do this, say it! I ......am......somebody! 😂 😆
no nitrogen ?!?
Nope, and i don't need it either.
@@Sir-Kay any issue on long term use ?! what sort of terrain ride you ?
@@sebastiengiovannelli8556 Honestly, everything except massive man-made jumps. These suspensions can't soak jumps up. But, fire roads, regular bike trails, little jumps and drops but, nothing major. If you want to be on the safer side, I would recommend something beefier than 120mm fork and 90mm dampers like I have here. Hope that helps.
@@Sir-Kay because I read on internet that nitrogen is better but maybe only marketing
@@sebastiengiovannelli8556 Maybe it might perform better but, like I said, get a better suspension if you can.
Oh great. Another video with music and subtitles instead of narration. 🤮