At this point, it's important to note that not only the $179 lowest priced version is only available in either black or white color but they're also non-RGB and not compatible with the LCD module. So to conclude, the $199 version is the definite default one to buy and go off from there if you wanna add more weights/backplate/knob etc.
Love how honest you are about the keyboard extra options and the stock configurations. The other videos I've watched didn't really include the cons as detailed as you. Great job on the video!
Oh man I feel so validated, I hate the way the knob was implemented on this board too! I wish the knob modular hadn't been the default, I would've removed it immediately if I could've, just to save my money
oh man I'm the exact opposite, I joined this GB because I liked the overall design especially the knob. Everything just came together, non exploded 75% layout, the knob placement, color choice, non-flex cut pcb. I was worried at some point that the knob would have to be an add-on. Glad that it is the default in the final default package.
Definitely getting this keyboard, even though it arrives in July. You should make a video comparing the Zoom75 to other keyboards! I really like how your videos are paced and just the overall vibe your videos. Keep it up!
It’s 2023 and I still care about GB 6+ month boards ☹️. Not every board is worth the wait due to subjectivity of what’s high end. But I still love going thru GH and looking at really cool unique designs and layouts!
I've gotten into the habit of keeping an eye out for extras whenever they go on sale, and it has kept me more sane so far! Although you never know which configs the extras will be in...
@@HubertTheMad I feel that. I have gone in on some extras myself for boards. But I like saving that money and still enjoying the investment later. It for some reason feels more custom for me when I have to wait. That sounds dumb I know but it’s true
I missed going on Geekhack but the velocity of new viable keyboards has slowed down immensely. Everyone still has ideas but the cracks are starting to show as to how many can actually fulfill properly
@@AndyVNguyen yeah the fulfillment part is terrifying. I have a couple GB’s that are on hold not for the parts having issues, but their vendors not having the time to fulfill in a reasonable time. It’s worrysome
Fck man, everything I like with this GB is already added onto my cart, but I am having second thoughts. But then you show up with the exact same configuration, and I think Imma check mine out right now.
Andy, I really like the board. But I can’t justify the price after buying a zoom tkl. Especially since the shipping cost is unreasonable on top of the cost of the board. You know what to do.
As a newbie to custom keyboards...there's no way I'm passing on the Special Edition, the LCD screen, and the internal weight. I slide my keyboard all over the table so I also want the Carbon Fibre backplate to avoid scratching the glass or stainless steel plates. Just in case the screen dies or gets no support, I'd also get the two-key module, as well as the badge module, so I must add another badge to the build. Then because I've never had flex cut PCBs, I'd definitely want to try it, so add another PCB to the list. While I'm at it, why not get an extra knob of different color? Oh and I'd probably also want to try the FR4, Aluminium, POM and Carbon Fibre plates. Thankfully I buy it through our local vendor so I don't need to add shipping. Lemme see...NT$16419, which is about US$547. Er......I haven't even got to buying switches and keycaps...this doesn't look right!
hi i'm new to the keyboard world and would like to buy the zoom75 with the lcd screen, do i just buy the wireless version essential kit + the add on 2U Colour LCD modular and that will do it? the website is abit confusing as they wrote "Note: Please remember to add the 2U Color LCD module to your shopping cart if you have purchased the 2U COLOR LCD as the kit comes with a knob module that does not support the installation of LCD". So does the 2U colour LCD modular add on includes the 2U colour LCD or do i have to buy it separately as i don't see it in the add on list.
thanks for the review Andy, definitely is refreshing to see a board with a no flex cut PCB! can’t say I’ve seen the shrink wrap mod for stabilizers, but that sounds so so much easier and durable than holee modding. Are you able to share the shrink wrap specs used?
@@foggytypes qk and jris didnt have such problem. Being “budget” just means you’re paying for a lighter/DB-less/less-intricately designed board. It shouldnt mean you’re risking faulty qc lol.
Hey, I know this is a long shot comment but I’m struggling between buying the zoom 75 and the mode envoy right now. Group buys are going on at the same time and I can’t afford both. I’m thinking I’ll get some NK creams and I found some matcha keycaps that would go nicely with the milky green zoom 75 and the green envoy. Any opinions? I’m in Canada if that changes anything
@@AndyVNguyen That's okay, either way it will be my first custom mechanical keyboard so I haven't figured out all my preferences yet but I decided to go with the z75, some Durock POM switches and looking for a good set of keycaps similar to Epomaker's Matcha set. I appreciate the reply regardless, have a good day
@@keeganmcvittie6762 i was in the same boat as you. U made the right choice tho. Mode keyboards are more endgame options so its not as fun going straight to endgame+ i can assure u that u wont be disapponted.
hey andy, would you say that the zoom75’s casing feels and looks more premium compared to the zoomtkl? I had a bad experience with the TKL in terms of the case quality (scratches and blemishes) and I’m hoping the zoom75 would be an improvement in the feels department.
The tenet 70's oled screen has ruined most screens on keyboard for me. Even thought the tenet70's screen is grayscale, it is so clear and considering it is black and white so it has not borders that I can't enjoy screens on most other boards now.
how long did yours take to arrive, I am new to the keyboard scene, and i never ordered a group buy or pre-order keyboard, I just bought the kbd 67 lite r4 and Bakeneko 65 when they were in stock. anyways good video.
This keyboard somehow came out of nowhere for me the last few days. And at this point I'm probably gonna get it lol. Don't have a 75% and I'm thinking that scarlet is gonna go well with IV kanketsu. Did you say they're gonna implement custom gif function later on? I'm a for sure buy honestly then.
i personally went with the Odin myself because of aesthetics, I preferred the look of the layout, screen placement, and screen size more. Hope this helps
Is this the essential edition or special edition? I’ve seen people say that if you get the essential edition it isnt compatible with the lcd module, is that correct?
@@shorowho not sure where it is sold on the official website, bought mine from a local vendor, but it's in the accessories section tho if you scroll, 20$
@@Mewcaloid honestly im just gonna swap it out 😅 hopefully there are plenty of spare backplates and weights, i just really wanted that dark anodized blue
Andy, I know it's late but I didn't see 75% keyboards on your tier list. Would love to see your opinion on them or maybe send me good ones on top of your head.
I don't think I'll be reviewing the Sonnet but I have the Tomo. I think the 7V R2 is the best value if you're willing to wait. Sonnet is the most accessible today. Tomo is a bit expensive but is a good top mount
I'd pick this up if I wasn't still in love with my QK75. I built mine with plate foam only and an aluminum plate, Gat Oil Kings and GMK Pulse Mitolet caps. It sounds really good to my ears, and does everything I want a keyboard to do. The screen on this to me is just a gimmick. It's neat, but I'd never use it as I don't look at my keyboard while typing or in general. I did recommend this board to a friend who is getting into the hobby. I gifted him a Zoom65, but he prefers the 75% layout.
Because it has to be compatible, that square piece around the knob creates a very obvious seam that isn’t great. Knobs are most useful on the top left so that you can control it without taking your hand off of the mouse. So knobs themselves are also a gimmick.
Very good review, thanks. It would be more helpful to know exactly to what extent can you customize the keyboard. Separately, can you please list the name of some companies with full-size (100%) keyboards, wireless (both 2.4 & bluetooth), hot-swap, south-facing leds, QMK/VIA (ideally) within perhaps CAD$500 range. Thanks in advance.
@@AndyVNguyen yup you have an option to either implement a gif or a static image. currently have one and even on stock it sounds and feel really good. i also love the multi function knob
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At this point, it's important to note that not only the $179 lowest priced version is only available in either black or white color but they're also non-RGB and not compatible with the LCD module.
So to conclude, the $199 version is the definite default one to buy and go off from there if you wanna add more weights/backplate/knob etc.
the sat75 was definitely one of the keyboards of all time
it might be vintage at this point idk
Love how honest you are about the keyboard extra options and the stock configurations. The other videos I've watched didn't really include the cons as detailed as you. Great job on the video!
Thank you!
Oh man I feel so validated, I hate the way the knob was implemented on this board too! I wish the knob modular hadn't been the default, I would've removed it immediately if I could've, just to save my money
you aren't crazy haha
oh man I'm the exact opposite, I joined this GB because I liked the overall design especially the knob. Everything just came together, non exploded 75% layout, the knob placement, color choice, non-flex cut pcb.
I was worried at some point that the knob would have to be an add-on. Glad that it is the default in the final default package.
2023 year of screen... Several budget prebuilt keyboards in my country begin to incorporate screen
I’m seeing that! I love it
Definitely getting this keyboard, even though it arrives in July. You should make a video comparing the Zoom75 to other keyboards! I really like how your videos are paced and just the overall vibe your videos. Keep it up!
GB for a few months is really not that bad compared to other/past GBs! I've had to wait more than a year for some GBs.
what color did you grab?
@@janmichaelsuarez2996 i got the kitsune edition and can’t wait to get it in my mail
waiting for people to put their sussy baka gifs onto the LCD screens when its implemented
unfortunately i need to wait for them to get the app ready
I wanted to do that YESTERDAY
It’s 2023 and I still care about GB 6+ month boards ☹️. Not every board is worth the wait due to subjectivity of what’s high end. But I still love going thru GH and looking at really cool unique designs and layouts!
I've gotten into the habit of keeping an eye out for extras whenever they go on sale, and it has kept me more sane so far!
Although you never know which configs the extras will be in...
@@HubertTheMad I feel that. I have gone in on some extras myself for boards. But I like saving that money and still enjoying the investment later. It for some reason feels more custom for me when I have to wait. That sounds dumb I know but it’s true
@@MrSkullhead0 For sure! There's no better feeling than getting that sudden shipping notification after months of wait haha
I missed going on Geekhack but the velocity of new viable keyboards has slowed down immensely. Everyone still has ideas but the cracks are starting to show as to how many can actually fulfill properly
@@AndyVNguyen yeah the fulfillment part is terrifying. I have a couple GB’s that are on hold not for the parts having issues, but their vendors not having the time to fulfill in a reasonable time. It’s worrysome
man I have my dream Sonnet build right in front of me. But imagine a Yellow board with a screen ... I am so close to press that buy button.
I had to think long and hard before deciding not to do yellow lol
A quote from Andy ~ "I know I responded w my flexing emote acknowledging you acknowledging me"
nah but fr, love you baby 😙
This keyboard is hella nice tho, you're hella rude for making me want to buy this keyboard. My wallet is already dying
DAMN it sounds so nice without foam!!
I was definitely surprised!
Fck man, everything I like with this GB is already added onto my cart, but I am having second thoughts. But then you show up with the exact same configuration, and I think Imma check mine out right now.
Gotta DEWIT
Budget friendly. Fun option. Great for entry board.
Exactly. But some people are raging in the comments on other videos about the price lol
Andy, I really like the board. But I can’t justify the price after buying a zoom tkl. Especially since the shipping cost is unreasonable on top of the cost of the board. You know what to do.
SIGH
I feel sorry for you. My shipping says $10
@@missrespectful 🦶
Think I might do one of these as a work board with wireless.
totally viable
As a newbie to custom keyboards...there's no way I'm passing on the Special Edition, the LCD screen, and the internal weight. I slide my keyboard all over the table so I also want the Carbon Fibre backplate to avoid scratching the glass or stainless steel plates. Just in case the screen dies or gets no support, I'd also get the two-key module, as well as the badge module, so I must add another badge to the build. Then because I've never had flex cut PCBs, I'd definitely want to try it, so add another PCB to the list. While I'm at it, why not get an extra knob of different color? Oh and I'd probably also want to try the FR4, Aluminium, POM and Carbon Fibre plates. Thankfully I buy it through our local vendor so I don't need to add shipping.
Lemme see...NT$16419, which is about US$547. Er......I haven't even got to buying switches and keycaps...this doesn't look right!
Yes, the cost can add up very quickly 😅
you don't need most of the things you listed.
@@foggytypes I don't need a custom keyboard. But I want one. Need is never the question when it comes to hobbies. :3
@@alexossan2829 not the same thing. base kit is good as is, except for the lack of the oled module.
hi i'm new to the keyboard world and would like to buy the zoom75 with the lcd screen, do i just buy the wireless version essential kit + the add on 2U Colour LCD modular and that will do it? the website is abit confusing as they wrote "Note: Please remember to add the 2U Color LCD module to your shopping cart if you have purchased the 2U COLOR LCD as the kit comes with a knob module that does not support the installation of LCD". So does the 2U colour LCD modular add on includes the 2U colour LCD or do i have to buy it separately as i don't see it in the add on list.
I would email them. But they may be separating the screen and the little rubber piece for the screen
Gosh I want this so bad. How do I order one?
thanks for the review Andy, definitely is refreshing to see a board with a no flex cut PCB! can’t say I’ve seen the shrink wrap mod for stabilizers, but that sounds so so much easier and durable than holee modding. Are you able to share the shrink wrap specs used?
I don’t have the specs, it was already done on the wires!
@@AndyVNguyen ahh okay, no worries, thank you!
The prototypes always look solid. Its just the qc that worries me with the zoom series.
This
Do they have a history of bad qc?
@@Mewcaloid TKLs had some problems.
they're $200 budget boards, what do you expect. they are very good at CS and replacing faulty parts, so it balances out nicely.
@@foggytypes qk and jris didnt have such problem. Being “budget” just means you’re paying for a lighter/DB-less/less-intricately designed board. It shouldnt mean you’re risking faulty qc lol.
Can you try the split space bar?
Andy: "Don't worry about the two-key F14 layout, it's...
Me: "Kind of ugly?"
Andy: "--kind of ugly."
Called it, LOL. 😂
when the feet OF happening?
Does the internal weight effect the sound profile drastically?
Tested in a later stream. Not drastic but it’s there. It makes it feel way more hefty in hand though, which is worth it.
Thank you for the honest review!! Let's review the Qk80, next?
maybe if they send it to me, not sure though. i was prob too honest with their link65 lol
@@AndyVNguyen Maybe, I will send you mine. I bought the Qk80 bundle kit. PCB with no flex-cuts.
My man got a speedy
🤭
it's a very great package, just ordered my special edition! are the uhmknown switches being sold online?
They will be via divinikey I just showcased it very early
Hey, I know this is a long shot comment but I’m struggling between buying the zoom 75 and the mode envoy right now. Group buys are going on at the same time and I can’t afford both. I’m thinking I’ll get some NK creams and I found some matcha keycaps that would go nicely with the milky green zoom 75 and the green envoy. Any opinions? I’m in Canada if that changes anything
You haven’t told me anything about what your preferences or wants are so I don’t know how to help you.
@@AndyVNguyen That's okay, either way it will be my first custom mechanical keyboard so I haven't figured out all my preferences yet but I decided to go with the z75, some Durock POM switches and looking for a good set of keycaps similar to Epomaker's Matcha set. I appreciate the reply regardless, have a good day
@@keeganmcvittie6762 i was in the same boat as you. U made the right choice tho. Mode keyboards are more endgame options so its not as fun going straight to endgame+ i can assure u that u wont be disapponted.
How are the umhknown switches stock? Considering getting some.
Sick af. Love em for what they offer. Lubed and filmed switches edge it out but barely
Cool thanks. Personally I'm done lubing. It kinda made me dislike building keyboards. So only using switches that are good stock now.
hey andy, would you say that the zoom75’s casing feels and looks more premium compared to the zoomtkl? I had a bad experience with the TKL in terms of the case quality (scratches and blemishes) and I’m hoping the zoom75 would be an improvement in the feels department.
did they give you a partial refund or exchange your unit from the GB if it had scratches?
The tenet 70's oled screen has ruined most screens on keyboard for me. Even thought the tenet70's screen is grayscale, it is so clear and considering it is black and white so it has not borders that I can't enjoy screens on most other boards now.
Any info on which part is cast or cnc ? Heard someone saying the SEs are CNCed 🤔
if it's not shown on the product page then i don't trust it
how long did yours take to arrive, I am new to the keyboard scene, and i never ordered a group buy or pre-order keyboard, I just bought the kbd 67 lite r4 and Bakeneko 65 when they were in stock. anyways good video.
I got a prototype because I'm a reviewer. Group buys vary from buy to buy. Some are 6-8 months and some get delayed longer. Thank you!
Serious considering whether I should purchase a GT Silver or Black/ Black SE to pair with GMK Olivia
Olivia on silver was nice for me. Keeps it brighter
I hope their 98 or 109 (when that comes out) will have a screen option (with a knob)
Might be hard to find space for a screen on a full size tbh
This keyboard somehow came out of nowhere for me the last few days. And at this point I'm probably gonna get it lol. Don't have a 75% and I'm thinking that scarlet is gonna go well with IV kanketsu.
Did you say they're gonna implement custom gif function later on? I'm a for sure buy honestly then.
Yep custom gif in a few months.
@@AndyVNguyen Beautiful. Thank you my dude. Always love your videos and inputs
Thank you for the support! I try to make sure I maintain my style and perspective
What comparison would you make between this and the Odin75? What would make you more inclined between one over the other aside from a cost standpoint?
i don't want a flex cut pcb so if odin is stuck with that i'd pass
i personally went with the Odin myself because of aesthetics, I preferred the look of the layout, screen placement, and screen size more. Hope this helps
Is this the essential edition or special edition? I’ve seen people say that if you get the essential edition it isnt compatible with the lcd module, is that correct?
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Zoom75 V’s keychain? Best?
keychain?
Cast vs CNC is a dealbreaker for me.
They’re all doing it in some way to get to this price point for now
Hello there I’m pretty new to this, what would be the difference between the flex cut pcb and non flex cut pcb :’)
I describe it in the video - flex cut is quieter and bouncier
I'm confused, is there an internal weight or not? Website only shows external weight listed.
Internal is not included, you have to buy it
@@CoinFlipAhri where? Website only shows external weight
@@shorowho not sure where it is sold on the official website, bought mine from a local vendor, but it's in the accessories section tho if you scroll, 20$
Can you completely skip installing the battery and still have the lcd screen work?
Yes
I spent 320 on the kitsune 😁
I would have too but the face on the back just creeped me out instead :( I love the flowers motifs
@@Mewcaloid honestly im just gonna swap it out 😅 hopefully there are plenty of spare backplates and weights, i just really wanted that dark anodized blue
Why do you recommend the internal weight? Is it just for the heft
Fuller sound
Do you think a 5 degree vs 6 degree makes a much of a difference?
I'd say so. 5 feels very flat. 6 is better, I typically like 7ish
I want to copy this exact config. What Keycaps did you use?
Gmk muted
How many switches does it require
Is Ivanko Barbell Company sponsoring you?
no but i got a free shirt
Can you remap the Right Alt to be Right Ctrl?
Yes
Okay, nice to know. Thank you!
Andy, I know it's late but I didn't see 75% keyboards on your tier list. Would love to see your opinion on them or maybe send me good ones on top of your head.
Most 75s are just ok. 7v, sonnet, tomo
@@AndyVNguyen Wow. That's a quick reply. Thank you. Will check your reviews on these.
I don't think I'll be reviewing the Sonnet but I have the Tomo. I think the 7V R2 is the best value if you're willing to wait. Sonnet is the most accessible today. Tomo is a bit expensive but is a good top mount
I'd pick this up if I wasn't still in love with my QK75. I built mine with plate foam only and an aluminum plate, Gat Oil Kings and GMK Pulse Mitolet caps. It sounds really good to my ears, and does everything I want a keyboard to do. The screen on this to me is just a gimmick. It's neat, but I'd never use it as I don't look at my keyboard while typing or in general. I did recommend this board to a friend who is getting into the hobby. I gifted him a Zoom65, but he prefers the 75% layout.
At this point I need a good gimmick. Everything’s too similar. If you’re happy with your QK tho def don’t buy another keyboard
Good review
good comment
sick video andy, glad to know zoom75 sounds better than the last two meletrix releases. Hated the way Zoom TKL sounded 😂
you sound like you're recovering from a cold... seasonal allergies? stay healthy 🫡
Good ear. I am. Been like oddly nasally for a few weeks. I will do my best, awa!
Does the front height bother u?
It’s def taller than my other boards so I’d have to get used to it to daily
Why not the knob module? Seems like the most usable, whereas the screen is a useless gimmick
Because it has to be compatible, that square piece around the knob creates a very obvious seam that isn’t great. Knobs are most useful on the top left so that you can control it without taking your hand off of the mouse. So knobs themselves are also a gimmick.
when onlyfeet?
Which color is that board? GT Silver ?
Yes gt silver
WHERE DA FOAMS ANDY?
In the trash
Very good review, thanks. It would be more helpful to know exactly to what extent can you customize the keyboard. Separately, can you please list the name of some companies with full-size (100%) keyboards, wireless (both 2.4 & bluetooth), hot-swap, south-facing leds, QMK/VIA (ideally) within perhaps CAD$500 range. Thanks in advance.
Sorry I don't know all the keyboards that exist..
@@AndyVNguyen Thanks for responding. Can you at least name a few? The 1800 form factor works as well.
Does it have RGB?
The production run should, my proto doesnt
@@AndyVNguyen thank you very much for that information.
I cannot believe you're opening with Sat75 disrespect. For shame Andy
wait a second you have one of the ones i sold don't you
LMAO I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO IT NOW I REMEMBER
@@AndyVNguyen what happened
@@AndyVNguyen LOOOOOOOOL i dont have it my homie Hove does, I just made the intro 😂
Alright where's the Zoom60
zoom60 might be boring because there's no space to add any fun stuff
@@AndyVNguyen true true, unless they increase the size...
Also, is this the WS PBT Gray Skies keycaps?
what keycaps did you use
Gmk muted
But but but kohaku!
kohaku is a different league lol
Nice vid
Thanks!
Foam75
I didn’t use any tho
The strix azoth with browns is better.
definitely another option! do they have customization for the screen like images/gifs?
@@AndyVNguyen yup you have an option to either implement a gif or a static image. currently have one and even on stock it sounds and feel really good. i also love the multi function knob
not bad, asus making moves
:)
you forgot about shipping prices!!!!! (oh noo, don't start a feet onlyfans ahaha, that would be awful!!)