@@delanamckayit’s not. I thought it was too, but my friend who is Colombian said it doesn’t completely translate to Spanish. I think it’s Italian (correct me if I’m wrong).
Violinist here. The concept of using numbers instead of notes in our sheet music is called tablature, or “tab” but tbh I don’t know how they would decode what string the note would be on without a number indicating that without thinking it’s just another note.
I don't play instruments so I might be way off.. but jade did organize each set of numbers by height on the wall and the tree in his yard. Maybe the string corresponds to the height of the branches?
Yeah I'm a professional violinist and I think it's more likely to be each bottle is a frequency and Jade needs to use the violin to make each bottle vibrate by matching frequencies. However, music notation is very old. Like... Pretty much as old as humans, you know... And some very old shorthand methods of notations can look like a modern day backwards 2 or something funny like that. Also, when I'm teaching, every time a student sees an 8th rest for the first time, they always say "what's that backwards 7 thing?".
In my mind, Jade is the lonely dragon and Tabitha the Cromenockle. Jade will come up with the "map" and help Tabitha bring everyone home. In season 1, episode 5, minute 18, Trudy refers to him as a dragon, and in season 3, episode 8, Jim calls Jade lonely, he is the only character that's been called either. so Tabitha might not need to be able to read or play the music, she got Jade to help her with that. as to why Miranda can play the violin and Tabi can not, maybe the reincarnation theory is wrong and the Synchronization/Replacement theory right - she might be able to access memories of Miranda and previous chosen individuals but she's not the same person. Honestly I can't wait to know what was walking around the cabins at night and for the Man in Yellow reveal. Anyway great video as always! keep it up, and please consider posting about other mystery/suspense/horror shows while From will be away after season 3!
The Bus Driver said her Grandmother taught her that song right? They play the song, Fatima goes into Labor, the Octopus Demon Baby absorbs the life essence of many, Boyd is mysteriously cured of his disease and saves as many as possible, and Elgin sacrifices himself for the error of his ways.
Answers are important, but first and foremost, they need to cut the BS with all these filler conversations that do not progress the plot in any way. The show is getting repetitive and boring to the point where you can skip most of an episode without missing any relevant information to the plot and mystery. Let people talk who have something to share with each other finally... Thank you for your videos! Your's are definitely the best out there and I really dig the way you present your findings.
I could be reaching here but Twinkle Twinkle Little Star was originally a French song Ah Vous Dirai- Je which was made in 1761 around the time of the Seven years war
You have my new favorite channel!! This was brilliant, i saw that comment but couldn’t thread it together! that’s brilliant! I was beginning to think that the writers were just kind of trolling us this season. After watching my this my faith is restored in the fact that every little factoid they’ve given us is important! even the smallest! i’m just waiting for the reveal of who that dude monster was in season 1 ep. 1 on the porch asking julie if she remembered him! anyway keep it up, i love the way your brain works!
I wonder how the nursery rhyme / folk song plays into this. Especially the last line "...unless you stop the melody". On another note, why go through all the trouble of putting these into bottles, if the bottles themselves don't serve a more tangible purpose?
I’m willing to bet the song that needs to be played is Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. The numbers could correspond to the notes of a scale, and yes, you could write out a single staff song using just numbers.
You. Teflon. Reel enigmas are my faves. Hands down Teflon said this like last year. Lmao. Okay maybe not last year but it was sooooo long ago it was like put down so badly too. He said he would rest it but he would keep it as his own theory and he recently made his update video feeling vindicated. We have a historian. Author. And movie critic/author all coming to great conclusions. With y’all help…I’ve been enjoying the show. Can y’all collaborate????????🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yep I saw this on Teflon video weeks ago so I’m excited to see what happens when he plays the violin. On the newer still photos I zoomed in to see the backwards 2 & 7 and I remember her Ethan telling Jade the numbers were backwards.
More French connections… The melody for "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" is based on the French folk song called "Ah! vous dirai-je, Maman" Which translates to: Ah, Mother, if I could tell you … from the 18th century. The lyrics were later written by English poet Jane Taylor in 1806 and originally published as a poem called "The Star".
I like the tarot card theory, but I just know that just like in Lost, the creators give us lots of red herring, stuff you can really dive in to but in the end means little. for example, in Lost there are several characters and episodes names that reference known philosophers but in the end it meant nothing to the mystery and questions in the show. I for one thinks a lot of choices about Ethan very much reference the sun card in tarot, he is a kid, he always wears a yellow shirt (even in season 3 its under the jacket and vest as seen in some scenes), in s01ep10 minute 35 Jim lifts him up on his back in what looks to me very similar to the sun card drawing, and in s01ep03 minute 11 he is wearing pjs with a horse print on them. Also the meaning of the sun card in Wikipedia is just mind blowing to me because I can see it very much relating to From: "The conscious mind prevails over the fears and illusions of the unconscious" (and we know the kids in the cave/tower are sleeping). the moon card being the boy in white with his dogs and towers, and it's meaning in Wikipedia: "Hidden enemies, danger, calumny, darkness, terror, deception, occult forces, error". also tons of blue an yellow items and clothing throughout the show speaks to this duality.
I love how this was spoiled like a month ago in the discord and all over reddit and now everyone's trying to say its their theory lol (not Faceless, but whoever told her in the dm)
"All Quiet Along the Potomac Tonight" - A popular Civil War song based on a poem by Ethel Lynn Beers release around 1864, maybe its related, in the tunnels under the town there are some drawings on people on a river, there is also the civil war soldier jade was having visions of.
Holy moly! Didn't Jade mention something about France or past family members living in France! I need to go rewatch season 1 and 2 all over again because literally everything is connected
Yes! When Tian Chen was mourning her husband and Jade saw her, he told a story about how he lived with his grandma in France, and was afraid to fly alone to the US after her death.
I dont think music was ever shown as something positive or beneficial to the towns people. Just like the music box, what if playing the music activates/ allows a higher entity (that was previously somehow blocked), to now enter the town? I feel like Tabitha and Jade misunderstood the bottle tree numbers and they gonna screw up for everybody in the town. It's too soon for them to escape fromville.
On another note… 1864, the old time classic “Beautiful Dreamer” was released. Wikipedia: The song tells of a lover serenading a "Beautiful Dreamer" who is oblivious to worldly cares and may actually be dead.
The French Symphonic Poem La Chasseur Maudit (played on strings amongst other orchestral instruments) was released in 1883 - a year not yet “uncovered” in FROM so far. It was inspired by the Balled The Wild Hunter, based of Germanic and Celtic Folklore of The Wild Hunter. The Wild Hunter is a Count is cursed in the woods to be condemned and pursued by demons for eternity. It’s described as: “On a Sunday morning, as church bells summon the faithful to worship and sacred chants fill the air, the Count sets off on a hunt. Pious elders plead with him to call off his expedition, but he responds contemptuously and rides roughshod through the village farms, trampling crops and applying the whip to the peasants in his way. Eventually he finds himself lost in the woods, where a stern voice from unseen heights pronounces his sentence: "Accursed hunter, be thou eternally pursued by Hell!" The Count tries to flee, but flames surround him and his horse. Imps and demons pursue him, now goading him on, now blocking his path; through daylight and darkness the wild ride continues. Even when horse and rider fall into an abyss there is no respite; they are borne through the air to ride on and on in unremitting punishment for blaspheming the Lord's Day.” The Wild Hunt is often associated with Odin as the Hunt’s leader (Norse mythology) but also and the Devil or unidentified Lost Soul. Wikipedia states that- “Seeing the Wild Hunt was thought to forebode some catastrophe such as the death of the one who witnessed it. People encountering the Hunt might also be abducted to the underworld or the fairy kingdom. In some instances, it was also believed that people's spirits could be pulled away during their sleep to join the cavalcade.” There has been some theories that the creatures we see were once normal human beings, I think one says “I wasn’t always like this” in season 1? There’s way more entrenched in this particular European mythos that could be tied to From in multiple ways but it’s really late and I’ve rambled on!
Now that we know Julie was able to somehow affect the past talking to Martin and throwing the rope down to Boyd, I wonder if Jade might somehow affect the past as well by creating another bottle tree since he figures out how it works 🤔🤔
think we are lost in the concept of "reincarnation". Could it be more so a transfer of character consciousness from cycle to cycle after death. Remember Miranda had views of all others that lived her role in the past
I'm just saying that Miranda's death could have led to her essence passing on to another living person destined to play her part...kinda like another player picking up a fumble in football to advance the play 🤔
I think they are the " monsters" remember how in the beginning jade told everyone how beautiful they are.....in my own opinion they don't have their own faces or memories and the "game" is for them to remember who or what they are......that's what I have always thought because in the beginning julie wears a shirt saying illusion when Tabitha looks at her reflection when she awoke in the ER I thought she didn't recognize herself but who knows we will hopefully find out more in 10 but there's going to be more questions for sure.....maybe they'll find out there is no monster or no death??
Could be... I sent her a message about a song that was playing called last train to clarksville and it seemed like everyone that mentioned where they were from had a clarksville in their state. The definition online of Clarksville is - able to be passed from one person or animal to another
Music wasn't even on my radar!!! I don't know anything about it or how it's notated. I look forward to seeing if you're right on Saturday at midnight (9 pm here in Cali)
The bottle tree is not music, theres no sense in writing 4 digit numbers and putting them randomly in a bottle as sheet music…. Also music doesn't connect with anything The bottle tree numbers are clearly years, i believe the tree allows the residents to not only move through space but also through time. It would make more sense for a time traveler to put the year in a bottle and hang in on a tree, the number of bottles can help the traveler identify which time period they are in as less bottles would be hanging on a tree if a time traveler went to an earlier period. Also both backwards 2 and backwards 7 have meaning in tarot cards. You should look into that
It’s already basically been confirmed they aren’t years atleast outside of 1864. The lighthouse numbers are years. I think a lot of people are emotionally attached to the bottle tree destinations being linked to the papers in the bottle but there’s 0 evidence that the numbers in the bottles has anything to do with where people ended up. I also considered them being frequencies of the notes of music but the backwards numbers would then not make sense
Teflon is the best for Fromville talk. Hes literally holding it down for all of us. 6 good and upcoming but hes the go to OG here. Unfortunately, because of all the leaks, theres a lot of people coning out with "new theories." Aka just plot facts at this point cause they're coming from the confirmed leak we got.
So, I'm a musician and it seems the numbers are more likely related to frequencies. If Jade plays a note that perfectly matches the frequency of the bottle, it will make the bottle vibrate and I think making the bottles vibrate is important. There's no backwards numbers or symbols in modern music but writing music notation by hand can be very difficult and a lot of times, a quarter rest will just look like a funny z or an 8th rest can look like a backwards 7. Having said that, music notation has been around since humans started trying to write things down to remember it or pass it on and there are a lot of shorthands and funny looking musical notations out there. We know Fromville is very old so it could be what a shorthand of musical notation at the time. Some may have been created before modern instruments, such as the violin, even existed.
So is the song Jade is about play the same song as the music box? Are we about to see multiple deaths next episode because Jade and Tabitha screwed up?
Yeah, I'm seeing comments that the song could be twinkle twinkle little star, but I was wondering about the music box as well. Either way, this theory makes some sense. I don't need all the answers, or even a lot. But the writers better give us a couple, because I'm seeing people getting fed up with being strung along with practically no answers.
If Elgin saw the Lake in his vision before they even got there..that means the whole story is a repeated cycle..which means the town knew all of this was already going to happen. Which means Fatimahs fate was always going to be what it ultimately becomes. What makes this interesting is the aspect of the last massacre and what prompted it...which I beleive is Fatimahs pregnancy and ultimate birth of the spawn. If Jade figures out how to use the tree...then that will warp the last story and failure of Miranda who did not show to have her violin with her when she died....maybe she never figured out how to use the tree...... I don't think Miranda or Tabitha are the chosen saviors but Eloise and apparanly Julie who with Jades instructions and perhaps guidance will figure out the warps and dimensions of Fromville...but like someone else said I don't think they ever really get to go home...just to a different warped reality or Matrix...which is where I think Victor's father was pulled from....per the repeated signs of the symbol and same commercial logos shown in his world and Fromville
I think i just saw something !!! Remember Boyd and sara in the tent ? Do you see victor grabing what looks like a small tent.... could victor be the one that made the tent move whit them in it ?????
love the videos. been looking for old nursery rhymes. Till I figure one that fits the show. Tir na nOg in Irish myths is, “ the realm of the Otherworld, the place where the Fae lived and heroes visited on quests. It was a place just outside the realm of man, off to the west, where there was no illness or death or time, but only happiness and beauty.” This has similar ties to Neverland from Peter Pan the original Fable 😮
A quarter rest is also known as a "crotchet" rest. From the Old French word crochet. Elgin crochets... Not sure if it means anything but thought I'd share anyway.
This makes so many things make sense! Especially, Martin’s warnings to Boyd about leaving before the music stopped! So now the question is, what does playing the music near the Bottle Tree cause to happen?
surely i cannot be the only one who thinks this show makes absolutely no sense with all the random stuff all around and all the plots just being thrown out there and nothing ever happens, this show is going nowhere, probably will be cancelled some time in the future or will just end without answering many of the questions
I'm predicting that Jade is Eloise reincarnated. Jade dressing up in girl's clothing, crashing into the Matthews' car, playing the violin like Miranda, reminding Victor's dad of Victor (Eloise's mom). Just a theory!
A large part of From is based on Aztec civilisation (Mesoamerica). First of all the God Tlaloc - children were sacrificed largely on boulders in sacred temples to Tlaloc because children tears were thought to invoke rain. It is also beelived Tlaloc would wreak havoc based upon the wrath of humans including chopping down trees and the killing of animals. He was also believed to bring about a black demon in this part. Chalchiutlicue is a deity of rivers, her name directly translates to She who shines like Jade” and was considered the wife of sister of Tlaloc. She was also thought to bring fertility to crops and protect women and children. It is believed that she retaliatid against Tlaloc causing a giant flood. She also built a bridge between heaven and earth and only those who were in her good graces were able to transverse this bridge. Then Mictlanechuti god of the underworld, rituals involved canibalism around temples. Often depicted as a skeleton with eyeballs. He had a close association with spiders. He was also the god of the day represented as dogs.
So this would be mean that possibly there is a ritual around 1506 that they have to over-turn with sacrificing the children and the lake of tears could represent the childrens tears. That is truly is bad to chop down trees or kill the animals. The image seen in the caves is likely a black demon. That Jade and Tabitha are likely brother/ sister. That Tabitha’s role is to create the bridge connection and save the children. Also that not everyone would be able to cross over between the tree and the “real world”. That the dogs seen in season 1 and 2 were gods. In Aztec thought death is another stage in a continuous cycle where every life is followed by death and death leads to the possibility of transformation or rebirth. The spiders likely symbolise death and inescapable fate
The Aztecs worldview was that the universe required blood sacrifice to continue its cycles. Aztecs sacrifice was deeply rooted in religious beliefs, whereas, Jonestown was psychological manipulation. Both, however, demonstrate the extremes as to which humans can go under systems of control and belief
Oh wow. If this entire bottle tree breaks down into being song. I wonder if its the song from Inception that would wake them up from the dream. Erik from New Rockstars did a breakdown of the song and its meaning for the movie Inception. I believe the song is french too.
I wonder if this song is the same song the bus driver said her mother used to sing to her when she was little. I don't believe she ever said the name of the song but she mentioned 2 times already.
You might be on to something, I posted about this on a large FROM FB group (190,000) , and it was taken down 10 mins afterwards because " NO SPOILERS PLS " Edit: they said its leaked info. So your hit the nail on the HEAD!!
I was wondering that as well. Others have said twinkle twinkle little star. Either way, looks like it' more likely than not regarding the numbers being notes for music. Some progress at least.
they have to sign NDAs (non disclosure agreements), he would be sued and would ruin his youtube station. They also didn't get the last 4 episodes until just a few weeks ago, I don't think he had it when he came out with his theory.
I like to think the best of people and assume it’s his theory I don’t see how he got the episode early a month ago. Companies usually preseed information a week early at BEST to avoid leaks. Which is why I think so much got leaked last week
I posted last week that Jade is actually going to be Miranda reincarnated. The twist is she came back as a man in this life. It is the same people being reincarnated over and over until they fix what they did to the onkooey children in a past life.
If it turns out to be notes for violin, the writers purposefully glossed over making it actually realistic and consistent with music theory/representation, to throw off viewers, because I will reiterate my comments elsewhere, if you gave these numbers to any violinist they would not be able to translate it to notes in a systematic and unambiguous way.
I agree. There would need to be an explanation of how you put all the notes together. Otherwise there would be so many permutations of potential note combinations it would be next to impossible to get it to mean the right song, not to mention things like tempo and rhythm. I've never much liked the theory (as someone who used to be a musician), and I'm really hoping that if this does happen, that they do a really bloody good job of explaining it 😅 My hope is that it's a red herring, and actually jade is playing the violin to try and trigger memories in Tabitha's head, and it's nothing to do with the bottle tree...
@onethingafteranother not just the ordering of the notes, but even to know which note it is from each number. I gave a long explanation in another comment on another video why. Basically it is ambiguous with 4 numbers unless you have some algorithm prescribed.
@@algebraist1997 absolutely. It's a very frustrating theory because there are a lot of feasibility issues, and I'm really worried it's going to be right, and then it will annoy me in the show 😅
I'll listen to you read ingredients... That voice and that laugh of yours, sounds cute as hell...Nice job on your insightful videos though, keep grinding with it. Whats the next show youre diving into?
Is 1761 a date????? I went online and it was saying that it was written by an English person as a poem but a French person made it into a melody in 1761. Composer unknown. Britanica also said some other dates in the 1700s about the song. Am I doing something 😂😂😂😂???? I’m trying to show why it was on French paper!!!!!!!! I did something guyssssss
I picked Twinkle twinkle because that’s the song Victor wanted jade to play for the information exchange. Remember he said his momma played it for him.
@thefacelessgirl do you think the music will conjure up something? Asking because it looked like they were surprised or startled by something in the scene following Jade playing in the trailer
Twinkle Twinkle means the one before you will be influential - could have meaning to Tabitha. Upon the world means that you have the potential to change the world. Diamond in the sky - could mean there will be some diamond that would be out there at night, I know some people have suggested that they need to pass through the tree at night like what Miranda looked to be trying to do
I wonder if the song is que sera sera 😂
lmao. that is French :|
@@delanamckay i don't think it's quite that either.
@@delanamckayit’s not. I thought it was too, but my friend who is Colombian said it doesn’t completely translate to Spanish.
I think it’s Italian (correct me if I’m wrong).
Maybe its twinkle twinkle little stars
If that's the song then that's right in our face. The produrcers. . .
Violinist here. The concept of using numbers instead of notes in our sheet music is called tablature, or “tab” but tbh I don’t know how they would decode what string the note would be on without a number indicating that without thinking it’s just another note.
I don't play instruments so I might be way off.. but jade did organize each set of numbers by height on the wall and the tree in his yard. Maybe the string corresponds to the height of the branches?
Yeah I'm a professional violinist and I think it's more likely to be each bottle is a frequency and Jade needs to use the violin to make each bottle vibrate by matching frequencies. However, music notation is very old. Like... Pretty much as old as humans, you know... And some very old shorthand methods of notations can look like a modern day backwards 2 or something funny like that. Also, when I'm teaching, every time a student sees an 8th rest for the first time, they always say "what's that backwards 7 thing?".
This show makes zero sense to me at this point..I'm just here for the ride lol
I think there is no getting home. They are home ...They are " FROM " there.
@@Eaglesfan117 due to reincarnation, yes
You have a good point
True. Look at Victor for example... do you think he even wants to go to the real world? That's the real world to him
Donna and Victor have both claimed From as their home
And remember that Victor wanted Jade to play Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star on his violin. The missing hotel is called The Star Magic Hotel.
How the hell you figure that lol
@@andresavage9109it is.
@@andresavage9109 it was show in a flash back
@@letsrock12345 oh I must of missed that
Stars, pocket dimension, music, the guy in yellow… could the King in Yellow be related to all this?
In my mind, Jade is the lonely dragon and Tabitha the Cromenockle. Jade will come up with the "map" and help Tabitha bring everyone home. In season 1, episode 5, minute 18, Trudy refers to him as a dragon, and in season 3, episode 8, Jim calls Jade lonely, he is the only character that's been called either. so Tabitha might not need to be able to read or play the music, she got Jade to help her with that. as to why Miranda can play the violin and Tabi can not, maybe the reincarnation theory is wrong and the Synchronization/Replacement theory right - she might be able to access memories of Miranda and previous chosen individuals but she's not the same person.
Honestly I can't wait to know what was walking around the cabins at night and for the Man in Yellow reveal.
Anyway great video as always! keep it up, and please consider posting about other mystery/suspense/horror shows while From will be away after season 3!
The show will go on for fourth season maybe in season 4 we will know more
You were correct 👍 unbelievable
" They touch, They break, They steal. No one here is free, Here they come, they come for three, unless you stop the melody"
👀👀
The Bus Driver said her Grandmother taught her that song right?
They play the song, Fatima goes into Labor, the Octopus Demon Baby absorbs the life essence of many, Boyd is mysteriously cured of his disease and saves as many as possible, and Elgin sacrifices himself for the error of his ways.
@@mlane9802 cripy as hell that song
Who could the 3 be??hmmm...1.Tabitha? 2. Jade??3. Ethan???
@@mlane9802 my bet its still related to julie, scarface, and substitut doctor..... but the part that say "no one here is free " is still in play
Answers are important, but first and foremost, they need to cut the BS with all these filler conversations that do not progress the plot in any way. The show is getting repetitive and boring to the point where you can skip most of an episode without missing any relevant information to the plot and mystery. Let people talk who have something to share with each other finally...
Thank you for your videos! Your's are definitely the best out there and I really dig the way you present your findings.
Yeahh I skip most of the scenes with Ellis & Fatima and Merielle & Christi & Kenny, they're a bunch of filler convos
I could be reaching here but Twinkle Twinkle Little Star was originally a French song Ah Vous Dirai- Je which was made in 1761 around the time of the Seven years war
Faceless Girl steals content and I’m telling everyone who she’s stolen from. She’ll just delete this comment like she deletes anyone who’s on to her.
You have my new favorite channel!! This was brilliant, i saw that comment but couldn’t thread it together! that’s brilliant! I was beginning to think that the writers were just kind of trolling us this season. After watching my this my faith is restored in the fact that every little factoid they’ve given us is important! even the smallest! i’m just waiting for the reveal of who that dude monster was in season 1 ep. 1 on the porch asking julie if she remembered him! anyway keep it up, i love the way your brain works!
I wonder how the nursery rhyme / folk song plays into this. Especially the last line "...unless you stop the melody". On another note, why go through all the trouble of putting these into bottles, if the bottles themselves don't serve a more tangible purpose?
maybe they put on trees because its the only thing that is constant. its moving according to viktor but its there.. just a quick guess though
I’m willing to bet the song that needs to be played is Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. The numbers could correspond to the notes of a scale, and yes, you could write out a single staff song using just numbers.
You are doing a great job!! Keep GOING!!
Thank you! Will do!
Had to wait to watch this cause your predictions are so accurate I didn’t wanna get spoiled lol. But omg this season has been amazing!
You. Teflon. Reel enigmas are my faves. Hands down Teflon said this like last year. Lmao. Okay maybe not last year but it was sooooo long ago it was like put down so badly too. He said he would rest it but he would keep it as his own theory and he recently made his update video feeling vindicated. We have a historian. Author. And movie critic/author all coming to great conclusions. With y’all help…I’ve been enjoying the show. Can y’all collaborate????????🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yep I saw this on Teflon video weeks ago so I’m excited to see what happens when he plays the violin. On the newer still photos I zoomed in to see the backwards 2 & 7 and I remember her Ethan telling Jade the numbers were backwards.
Great job 😉😉 can’t wait for the breakdown of episode 10 OMG
More French connections…
The melody for "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" is based on the French folk song called
"Ah! vous dirai-je, Maman"
Which translates to:
Ah, Mother, if I could tell you
… from the 18th century.
The lyrics were later written by English poet Jane Taylor in 1806 and originally published as a poem called "The Star".
I like the tarot card theory, but I just know that just like in Lost, the creators give us lots of red herring, stuff you can really dive in to but in the end means little. for example, in Lost there are several characters and episodes names that reference known philosophers but in the end it meant nothing to the mystery and questions in the show.
I for one thinks a lot of choices about Ethan very much reference the sun card in tarot, he is a kid, he always wears a yellow shirt (even in season 3 its under the jacket and vest as seen in some scenes), in s01ep10 minute 35 Jim lifts him up on his back in what looks to me very similar to the sun card drawing, and in s01ep03 minute 11 he is wearing pjs with a horse print on them. Also the meaning of the sun card in Wikipedia is just mind blowing to me because I can see it very much relating to From: "The conscious mind prevails over the fears and illusions of the unconscious" (and we know the kids in the cave/tower are sleeping).
the moon card being the boy in white with his dogs and towers, and it's meaning in Wikipedia: "Hidden enemies, danger, calumny, darkness, terror, deception, occult forces, error". also tons of blue an yellow items and clothing throughout the show speaks to this duality.
Okay not watching this, but congrats on whatever you figured out! Best From theory channel out there, so I'm sure you cracked it
The music box !!! Now makes so much sense
Why did someone tag a large T.R.O.Y.
On the medic truck with those periods between the letters??
People usually don't write their names like that
I thought the same thing when I saw it. Not sure. Also interesting that Troy can stand for Trojan horse.
I love how this was spoiled like a month ago in the discord and all over reddit and now everyone's trying to say its their theory lol (not Faceless, but whoever told her in the dm)
@@delanamckayyea it is u seen the leaks? It's reincarnation they will remember the past life
Omggg this was ON POINT!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤
This makes why there is a music box make more sense.
"All Quiet Along the Potomac Tonight" - A popular Civil War song based on a poem by Ethel Lynn Beers release around 1864, maybe its related, in the tunnels under the town there are some drawings on people on a river, there is also the civil war soldier jade was having visions of.
Tabitha can’t play the violin because she is not the reencarnation of victor’s mother. She can just see the lives of past residents of fromtown.
Tabitha said she used to be married to Jade. She was very clear they were there in the beginning. It's reincarnation was confirmed in the finale.
They’ve been saying this for a while now. I heard this theory last year after jade played the song for Victor
Jade said “Excuse my French”
Holy moly! Didn't Jade mention something about France or past family members living in France! I need to go rewatch season 1 and 2 all over again because literally everything is connected
Yes! When Tian Chen was mourning her husband and Jade saw her, he told a story about how he lived with his grandma in France, and was afraid to fly alone to the US after her death.
I dont think music was ever shown as something positive or beneficial to the towns people. Just like the music box, what if playing the music activates/ allows a higher entity (that was previously somehow blocked), to now enter the town? I feel like Tabitha and Jade misunderstood the bottle tree numbers and they gonna screw up for everybody in the town. It's too soon for them to escape fromville.
On another note… 1864, the old time classic “Beautiful Dreamer” was released.
Wikipedia: The song tells of a lover serenading a "Beautiful Dreamer" who is oblivious to worldly cares and may actually be dead.
The French Symphonic Poem La Chasseur Maudit (played on strings amongst other orchestral instruments) was released in 1883 - a year not yet “uncovered” in FROM so far.
It was inspired by the Balled The Wild Hunter, based of Germanic and Celtic Folklore of The Wild Hunter.
The Wild Hunter is a Count is cursed in the woods to be condemned and pursued by demons for eternity. It’s described as:
“On a Sunday morning, as church bells summon the faithful to worship and sacred chants fill the air, the Count sets off on a hunt. Pious elders plead with him to call off his expedition, but he responds contemptuously and rides roughshod through the village farms, trampling crops and applying the whip to the peasants in his way. Eventually he finds himself lost in the woods, where a stern voice from unseen heights pronounces his sentence: "Accursed hunter, be thou eternally pursued by Hell!" The Count tries to flee, but flames surround him and his horse. Imps and demons pursue him, now goading him on, now blocking his path; through daylight and darkness the wild ride continues. Even when horse and rider fall into an abyss there is no respite; they are borne through the air to ride on and on in unremitting punishment for blaspheming the Lord's Day.”
The Wild Hunt is often associated with Odin as the Hunt’s leader (Norse mythology) but also and the Devil or unidentified Lost Soul.
Wikipedia states that- “Seeing the Wild Hunt was thought to forebode some catastrophe such as the death of the one who witnessed it. People encountering the Hunt might also be abducted to the underworld or the fairy kingdom. In some instances, it was also believed that people's spirits could be pulled away during their sleep to join the cavalcade.”
There has been some theories that the creatures we see were once normal human beings, I think one says “I wasn’t always like this” in season 1?
There’s way more entrenched in this particular European mythos that could be tied to From in multiple ways but it’s really late and I’ve rambled on!
Now that we know Julie was able to somehow affect the past talking to Martin and throwing the rope down to Boyd, I wonder if Jade might somehow affect the past as well by creating another bottle tree since he figures out how it works 🤔🤔
think we are lost in the concept of "reincarnation". Could it be more so a transfer of character consciousness from cycle to cycle after death. Remember Miranda had views of all others that lived her role in the past
I'm just saying that Miranda's death could have led to her essence passing on to another living person destined to play her part...kinda like another player picking up a fumble in football to advance the play 🤔
I think they are the " monsters" remember how in the beginning jade told everyone how beautiful they are.....in my own opinion they don't have their own faces or memories and the "game" is for them to remember who or what they are......that's what I have always thought because in the beginning julie wears a shirt saying illusion when Tabitha looks at her reflection when she awoke in the ER I thought she didn't recognize herself but who knows we will hopefully find out more in 10 but there's going to be more questions for sure.....maybe they'll find out there is no monster or no death??
I agree I thought reincarnation at first until I remembered what Henry told Tabitha
Could be...
I sent her a message about a song that was playing called last train to clarksville and it seemed like everyone that mentioned where they were from had a clarksville in their state.
The definition online of Clarksville is - able to be passed from one person or animal to another
Music wasn't even on my radar!!! I don't know anything about it or how it's notated. I look forward to seeing if you're right on Saturday at midnight (9 pm here in Cali)
The bottle tree is not music, theres no sense in writing 4 digit numbers and putting them randomly in a bottle as sheet music…. Also music doesn't connect with anything
The bottle tree numbers are clearly years, i believe the tree allows the residents to not only move through space but also through time. It would make more sense for a time traveler to put the year in a bottle and hang in on a tree, the number of bottles can help the traveler identify which time period they are in as less bottles would be hanging on a tree if a time traveler went to an earlier period.
Also both backwards 2 and backwards 7 have meaning in tarot cards. You should look into that
It’s already basically been confirmed they aren’t years atleast outside of 1864. The lighthouse numbers are years. I think a lot of people are emotionally attached to the bottle tree destinations being linked to the papers in the bottle but there’s 0 evidence that the numbers in the bottles has anything to do with where people ended up. I also considered them being frequencies of the notes of music but the backwards numbers would then not make sense
@@TheFacelessGirlYT here’s a crazier theory, they might be corresponding tarot cards, since tarots have numbers and are read in digits of four
Although why someone would put up tarot cards numbers in abottle and hung on a tree, dont know
@@hc7523 mmm that’s a good theory too definitely possible for all we know the preview is just him playing by the tree so we will see
Teflon is the best for Fromville talk. Hes literally holding it down for all of us. 6 good and upcoming but hes the go to OG here. Unfortunately, because of all the leaks, theres a lot of people coning out with "new theories." Aka just plot facts at this point cause they're coming from the confirmed leak we got.
When meagan died she had 4 cards next to her. There was a 2 and a backwards 2
So, I'm a musician and it seems the numbers are more likely related to frequencies. If Jade plays a note that perfectly matches the frequency of the bottle, it will make the bottle vibrate and I think making the bottles vibrate is important. There's no backwards numbers or symbols in modern music but writing music notation by hand can be very difficult and a lot of times, a quarter rest will just look like a funny z or an 8th rest can look like a backwards 7. Having said that, music notation has been around since humans started trying to write things down to remember it or pass it on and there are a lot of shorthands and funny looking musical notations out there. We know Fromville is very old so it could be what a shorthand of musical notation at the time. Some may have been created before modern instruments, such as the violin, even existed.
Once they play the last verse of that song, ish gon get really real. We have been stuck on the chorus! Que sara sara…
So is the song Jade is about play the same song as the music box? Are we about to see multiple deaths next episode because Jade and Tabitha screwed up?
Yeah, I'm seeing comments that the song could be twinkle twinkle little star, but I was wondering about the music box as well. Either way, this theory makes some sense. I don't need all the answers, or even a lot. But the writers better give us a couple, because I'm seeing people getting fed up with being strung along with practically no answers.
If Elgin saw the Lake in his vision before they even got there..that means the whole story is a repeated cycle..which means the town knew all of this was already going to happen. Which means Fatimahs fate was always going to be what it ultimately becomes.
What makes this interesting is the aspect of the last massacre and what prompted it...which I beleive is Fatimahs pregnancy and ultimate birth of the spawn. If Jade figures out how to use the tree...then that will warp the last story and failure of Miranda who did not show to have her violin with her when she died....maybe she never figured out how to use the tree......
I don't think Miranda or Tabitha are the chosen saviors but Eloise and apparanly Julie who with Jades instructions and perhaps guidance will figure out the warps and dimensions of Fromville...but like someone else said I don't think they ever really get to go home...just to a different warped reality or Matrix...which is where I think Victor's father was pulled from....per the repeated signs of the symbol and same commercial logos shown in his world and Fromville
I think i just saw something !!!
Remember Boyd and sara in the tent ? Do you see victor grabing what looks like a small tent.... could victor be the one that made the tent move whit them in it ?????
love the videos. been looking for old nursery rhymes. Till I figure one that fits the show.
Tir na nOg in Irish myths is, “ the realm of the Otherworld, the place where the Fae lived and heroes visited on quests. It was a place just outside the realm of man, off to the west, where there was no illness or death or time, but only happiness and beauty.”
This has similar ties to Neverland from Peter Pan the original Fable 😮
A quarter rest is also known as a "crotchet" rest. From the Old French word crochet. Elgin crochets... Not sure if it means anything but thought I'd share anyway.
What? Jade will play the song on the violin and a portal opens up?😂😂😂 im here for whatever this show throws at us!! Thanks for your video girlfriend 😊
Jade played the violin for Tabatha in one spoiler scene definitely confirms the numbers are music nites
I commented about teflon yesterday replying to your comment when somebody suggested it was music
Ancooey means remember and Jade and Tab will remember who they are soon.
This makes so many things make sense! Especially, Martin’s warnings to Boyd about leaving before the music stopped! So now the question is, what does playing the music near the Bottle Tree cause to happen?
Chlldren appears
surely i cannot be the only one who thinks this show makes absolutely no sense with all the random stuff all around and all the plots just being thrown out there and nothing ever happens, this show is going nowhere, probably will be cancelled some time in the future or will just end without answering many of the questions
@@delanamckay man, even the creators of the show have no idea what you just said
I'm predicting that Jade is Eloise reincarnated. Jade dressing up in girl's clothing, crashing into the Matthews' car, playing the violin like Miranda, reminding Victor's dad of Victor (Eloise's mom). Just a theory!
Just a question, we don't know who invented the talismans and how they protect us or what the meaning of Angui is???
A large part of From is based on Aztec civilisation (Mesoamerica). First of all the God Tlaloc - children were sacrificed largely on boulders in sacred temples to Tlaloc because children tears were thought to invoke rain. It is also beelived Tlaloc would wreak havoc based upon the wrath of humans including chopping down trees and the killing of animals. He was also believed to bring about a black demon in this part. Chalchiutlicue is a deity of rivers, her name directly translates to She who shines like Jade” and was considered the wife of sister of Tlaloc. She was also thought to bring fertility to crops and protect women and children. It is believed that she retaliatid against Tlaloc causing a giant flood. She also built a bridge between heaven and earth and only those who were in her good graces were able to transverse this bridge. Then Mictlanechuti god of the underworld, rituals involved canibalism around temples. Often depicted as a skeleton with eyeballs. He had a close association with spiders. He was also the god of the day represented as dogs.
So this would be mean that possibly there is a ritual around 1506 that they have to over-turn with sacrificing the children and the lake of tears could represent the childrens tears. That is truly is bad to chop down trees or kill the animals. The image seen in the caves is likely a black demon. That Jade and Tabitha are likely brother/ sister. That Tabitha’s role is to create the bridge connection and save the children. Also that not everyone would be able to cross over between the tree and the “real world”. That the dogs seen in season 1 and 2 were gods. In Aztec thought death is another stage in a continuous cycle where every life is followed by death and death leads to the possibility of transformation or rebirth. The spiders likely symbolise death and inescapable fate
The Jonestown massacre in 1978 - linked to the Aztecs. JZ Smith “something we have seen before”
The leader of the massacre was Jim Jones
The Aztecs worldview was that the universe required blood sacrifice to continue its cycles. Aztecs sacrifice was deeply rooted in religious beliefs, whereas, Jonestown was psychological manipulation. Both, however, demonstrate the extremes as to which humans can go under systems of control and belief
Oh wow. If this entire bottle tree breaks down into being song. I wonder if its the song from Inception that would wake them up from the dream. Erik from New Rockstars did a breakdown of the song and its meaning for the movie Inception. I believe the song is french too.
I wonder if this song is the same song the bus driver said her mother used to sing to her when she was little. I don't believe she ever said the name of the song but she mentioned 2 times already.
I'm not watching any video for potential spoilers for Episode 10. Spoilers for earlier episodes are fine, but for FINALE, NO WAY.
You might be on to something, I posted about this on a large FROM FB group (190,000) , and it was taken down 10 mins afterwards because " NO SPOILERS PLS "
Edit: they said its leaked info. So your hit the nail on the HEAD!!
The symbol that Jade is trying to figure out kind of looks like a FM if you look at it right
Why does this nugget matter overall ? It’s like getting a plate full of nuggets but not a full meal at this point.
i still like the numbers being X- Y co ords therory
What if the song is the tune from the music box
I absolutely love these potential spoilers and you've been spot on in things I've heard you say... whish I knew even more 😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉
Glad you enjoyed!
It's a notes of the title song "Que Sera Sera"
I wonder if it is Au Clair De Lune. The song was made in 1860
By the way, why is nobody talking about Victor's sister Eloise??? Isn't her disappearance a big mystery???
Jade is from France. Libed there with his grandmother.
Its connected to the music box and the woman dancer Boyd was seeing.
Maam you been doing yo research lol 😊
I doubt it but keep searching for clues
2:24 there are reversed 2 and 7
The music boxes, the music box in the Diner and… maybe it’s a reach 🤷
Do you think it will be the song from the music box?
I was wondering that as well. Others have said twinkle twinkle little star. Either way, looks like it' more likely than not regarding the numbers being notes for music. Some progress at least.
I actually don’t think it’ll be any song we have heard already, I think it’ll be something completely new.
Doesn’t Teflon get all the episodes beforehand? So how do we know it was his actual theory or he just watched the episode so knew what would happen?
they have to sign NDAs (non disclosure agreements), he would be sued and would ruin his youtube station. They also didn't get the last 4 episodes until just a few weeks ago, I don't think he had it when he came out with his theory.
I like to think the best of people and assume it’s his theory I don’t see how he got the episode early a month ago. Companies usually preseed information a week early at BEST to avoid leaks. Which is why I think so much got leaked last week
A backwards 7 or 2? Have you not seen a bass clef?
I posted last week that Jade is actually going to be Miranda reincarnated. The twist is she came back as a man in this life. It is the same people being reincarnated over and over until they fix what they did to the onkooey children in a past life.
So is their favorite song connected somehow?
If it turns out to be notes for violin, the writers purposefully glossed over making it actually realistic and consistent with music theory/representation, to throw off viewers, because I will reiterate my comments elsewhere, if you gave these numbers to any violinist they would not be able to translate it to notes in a systematic and unambiguous way.
I think this is something we are seeing be true for multiple details in this show including the monsters. So I hear you and believe you.
I agree. There would need to be an explanation of how you put all the notes together. Otherwise there would be so many permutations of potential note combinations it would be next to impossible to get it to mean the right song, not to mention things like tempo and rhythm. I've never much liked the theory (as someone who used to be a musician), and I'm really hoping that if this does happen, that they do a really bloody good job of explaining it 😅
My hope is that it's a red herring, and actually jade is playing the violin to try and trigger memories in Tabitha's head, and it's nothing to do with the bottle tree...
@onethingafteranother not just the ordering of the notes, but even to know which note it is from each number. I gave a long explanation in another comment on another video why. Basically it is ambiguous with 4 numbers unless you have some algorithm prescribed.
@@algebraist1997 absolutely. It's a very frustrating theory because there are a lot of feasibility issues, and I'm really worried it's going to be right, and then it will annoy me in the show 😅
I don’t buy that all these people just “happened” to come up with a music theory after the infamous leaks…
If the bottles are musical notes I don’t see how that helps solve anything.
The answer is in what the song is.
They saw that in the spoilers, they ain’t slick 😏
So many clues but not very clear answers tbh
I thought it would be Twinkle , twinkle little star which was writtrn in 1838.
In season 9 I think Victor and Tabitha are brother and sisters
Yeah I remember Tony's video. He stay getting stuff right. When I saw the trailer I was like wow tony was right
Who’s tony?
@ tony teflon
I'll listen to you read ingredients... That voice and that laugh of yours, sounds cute as hell...Nice job on your insightful videos though, keep grinding with it. Whats the next show youre diving into?
Open to suggestions honestly, considering silo and severance
@@TheFacelessGirlYT Silo is very good and the second season just started. I would love to watch your theories on that!!
Twinkle twinkle little star was 1806 was that the song Jade played for Victor
ngl, numbers being music notes is kinda lame 😬. Coordinates theory better
Is 1761 a date????? I went online and it was saying that it was written by an English person as a poem but a French person made it into a melody in 1761. Composer unknown. Britanica also said some other dates in the 1700s about the song. Am I doing something 😂😂😂😂???? I’m trying to show why it was on French paper!!!!!!!! I did something guyssssss
I picked Twinkle twinkle because that’s the song Victor wanted jade to play for the information exchange. Remember he said his momma played it for him.
There’s a 17_1 in the lighthouse I always thought it was wrong cause the line is off but people assumed it’s 1711
Yea ofc he had a theory after the spoilers said they are notes
Maybe it is just like the shining they are home because this has always been there home because they have always been destined to be there
I still think it’s frequencies, or harmonic resonance.
The song is twinkle twinkle little star.
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@thefacelessgirl do you think the music will conjure up something? Asking because it looked like they were surprised or startled by something in the scene following Jade playing in the trailer
Teflon the 🐐
Why wouldn't Jade have thought of this before now being that he knows how to play the violin?
Because he’s not as smart as he thinks 😂
It’s still a code at the end of the day it’s a code that represents a song somehow
I heard this theory on someone else’s page about 3 wks ago but never thought much of it.
Ain't this some shiggity! Luvin it!
Twinkle Twinkle means the one before you will be influential - could have meaning to Tabitha. Upon the world means that you have the potential to change the world. Diamond in the sky - could mean there will be some diamond that would be out there at night, I know some people have suggested that they need to pass through the tree at night like what Miranda looked to be trying to do