11:33 A colorimeter is not really expensive (way cheaper than the tablet), and it's really helpful better than just guessing... also, perception and your room lighting can fool a lot even an expert illustrator... (I learned that the hard way printing stuff). There are a few good video tutorials (just pick the good ones) in youtube about the basic procedure, it is really worth it for display tablets and making graphics and art in general, with them or regular monitors. I wouldn't say it is only critical for Hollywood color graders or photo labs experts.... As a brother in arms illustrator, I can confirm a colorimeter is kind of a must (yeah, even if just doing eventual commissions) if anything that one does has a print output (well, even for screen only, too. But in that case, sticking to sRGB in the hardware profile, and in your apps makes wonders). That and neutral lighting bulbs (6500K color temperature, don't rely on just "daylight" marketing terms in the bulb's box). I'd say that (lighting in general) is even more important, while very cheap of an improvement. I hate white lights for other rooms, as they "feel" too cold, but for work, definitely nothing affecting my colors. I see this tablet has there a sRGB and a 6500K presets...Might not be a bad thing (for slightly more accurate colors) to try and just use one of those, if having no colorimeter.
The screen texture vs wacom is due to Xp-Pen using a protective plastic film that protects the screen rather than the glass screen being etched, it brings the price down doing it this way. An etched screen would mean the glass would have to be better and harder. Its main Chinese competitor Huion, would have etched glass. Huion and Xp-Pen are basically the two companies fighting for second place vs wacom while still trying to be budget friendly.
@@BoroCG They did release the pd156 pro and their 22 inch late last year with laminated screens being their new spec which would put them next to the Xp-Pen displays as a competitor in terms of the screen tech specs checklist aside from maybe pen drivers and color gamut off the top of my head. I just think their biggest problem is still just marketing tho sadly, plus laminated screens are something the others have had for awhile now. The basically 3 year gap since the pd1560 vs the now pro release just allowed the others to make a lot more head way with marketing and innovation.
It's not much competition, XP pen beats Huion quite easily. XP pen is actually a serious threat against Wacom. Wacom should concentrate on the high end, high quality, high price segment of the market, at the budget level XP pen dominates.
@@SkepticalCaveman I mean the XP-Pen vs Huion stuff really just comes down to preference due to how price wise they both offer products that are priced exactly the same, and that includes their flagships. XP-Pen just has yet to have etched glass at all instead of using films. They're both close to Wacom but still got a while to go since Wacom pen performance is still unmatched overall plus their stuff comes in with the colors pre-calibrated.
I have an ancient Wacom Bamboo, and I just ordered one of these on the back of you and Grant Abbitt's reviews. I appreciate you being so thorough, thanks. Can't wait to receive it.
@@datjeepcray4188 I'm not a daily user by any stretch, as I'm just a hobbyist. But I've found it to be great value for money. Good screen, pen works great, easy to set up etc. I would recommend it for sure. The only drawback is that it connects with 3 cables, when it seems like it could be done with a single Thunderbolt cable.
@@leigh9360 Awesome! Yeah, I'm not crazy about the extra cables, perhaps the cost of licensing Thunderbolt would bring the price point too high or alienate PC users? My desk is awash in cables- I'll live- I'm not a daily user either- I'll mostly use it for photo retouch and light turning images to vectors type shit for screen printing, stencils and lino blocks. I guess you could call all of that 'print making'
I want to mention how nice the camera separation is in your videos. A good looking dotted-wavey design, not just a bland line of two videos put together :D
Yeah. I’ve been use this tablet for a month, and the quick click is really annoying me. I don’t use dots on my paint, but there are obvious problem opening file folder!!! About the special brushes, I’ve had a nice experience on the Krita with the rotatable brushes.
He mentioned using the cable from his Pixel phone. That is likely just a USB 2.0 cable, which supports 480 Mbps and PD (Power Delivery) but doesn't support video or Lightning or VirtualLink. I would love if @BoroCG could acquire a fully featured USB-C cable (one that supports HDMI or DisplayPort alternate modes should probably work) since this is the main question I have before buying this tablet. My GeForce RTX 2070 has a VirtualLink-compatible USB-C output and I would really like to plug this tablet into that through a single cable. I really hope it works because that is my one complaint that makes this tablet currently seem less-than-premium.
@@Keavon from their 24 inch tablet version, they have the usb c cables which I saw in this review www.parkablogs.com/content/review-xp-pen-artist-24-pro-1440p-usb-c-pen-display but i have no idea if it'll work with the 16 inch one
You need to get the Wacom cintiq pro usb c cable to test out if it works with usb c to usb c. The cable itself needs to support display port out. Your phones charger won’t have any of that display port out stuff so you need to get a cable that supports that ! I say the Wacom cable because it is designed for display, power and data transfer
not all type-c ports are the same. Most type-c ports on a desktop don't have display port alternate mode while many on a laptop will especially if it's a thunderbolt port. The only type c port on a desktop guaranteed to have display port alternate would be the vr-link port on the RTX 20 series GPUs
I've seen both parts of the review in my recommendations and gotta say, you made me laugh for real. You're funny with your reactions, dude! For that, you have an instant subscriber! :) As for the tablet, I guess I'd be better off with the Wacom One. Pen Quality is really important to me in my view regardless of lack of express keys and color accuracy.
The only one single thing I want from XP-PEN is to allow me to personalize the pencil keys for every program. When I'm using Photoshop I like to switch between pencil and eraser but this is useless in 3D applications and I don't like to change it every time.
The innovator 16 is a more modern model. Typically this also means improved, bugs fixed, firmware improved, better design, etc. The issue with that is sometimes the super new stuff has not had time for users and reviewers to catch potential problems.... Also the wheel-disk seems a bit more advanced in Innovator. The active area is the same.... the color coverage is almost the same (maybe slightly better in Innovator). The pen's report rate is a bit better in Innovator (220 RPS vs 200 rps), but that's surely not really noticed, plus, there are too many factors besides that value to speak about lag differences, altho in equal circumstance, yep, should be better. The stand is the same cr4p for both : Like Boro says, you're gonna want to get you a third party good stand from Amazon that allows better angles. Or directly an Ergotrom arm (if your table is thick enough), if any of these tablets has a proper vesa mounting area. Anyway, there are also - very cheap- pieces on Amazon to adapt less standard ones to vesa, if that'd be the case. The contrast ratio seems to be amazing in this Innovator model: 1200:1, if true, is REALLY good. Can't find the value for theArtist 15.6 Pro, but I'd be to believe might be worse. Neither can find the response timefor the Artist model, but yep in the Innovator, 16ms... not great, but should be fine for painting. The Huion Kanvas Pro 22 (2019) version, that exact version, has a 8ms time, which is amazing and not very common in the industry of painting tablets. Overall, I'd get the Innovator among those two, if I weren't so convinced of a 22 inches being the way to go. Meaning, in my book an older XP-pen 22E pro is a much better purchase for almost the same price, specially now with their anniversary offer. With the 24 model out, the 22R makes zero sense. If you carry around the tablet, and your bag fits exactly 256 mm wide devices, but not a 280 mm wide one (that'd be a rare case! is only a 3 cm difference(a bit more than an inch)), well, that's another reason for the Innovator. Both are just as long (or wide, should I say...), 443 mm. There seems there was a firmware issue (related to making very tiny line details) with the 22R. I suspect it has been fixed in the 24 model and this Innovator. So, specially now I'd only go with the newer models...
I own Artist 15.6 Pro and not this one but just judging by this review the Artist Pro is essentially the same, but it does have the steps in the scrolling wheel and it does not have the fast dots problem. Plus my first nib did not wear off quickly which means that the surface of the Artist Pro is better manufactured to begin with, i guess. The only functional difference from what i can tell is that the Innovator has that touch wheel.
@@3polygons I love the design language of the Innovator, it's just the size that's holding me back. I have a Samsung Galaxy Book 12 right now as my sole machine and looking to get a desktop setup again, and going from 12" 3:2 to 15.6" 16:9 isn't enough for me to invest. If they make an Innovator 22 with a QHD screen, a better built in stand (and a smidge thicker so there's no flex), I'm sold.
Between the same size Artist pro this Innovator wins hands down because of build quality, touch screen, updated pen and portability for a slightly higher price but I guess a 22'' is still better because of size but I went with this one for the price and portability.
@@Zeriel00 If one badly needs portability, the 22 is no way for most people. I would manage to carry one as I hate with a passion working in smaller screens (but I have long arms as to carry that or a tower, lol). It's definitely NOT 'portable', is a 22 inches monitor! But I prefer to lose portability for production time, ergonomics and etc... I'm planning to get a 24 inches display-tablet (for a mixed use, mostly for inking! ; I'd still be using the classic tablet most of the time, or using the 24" as a classic), undecided between the XP-Pen and Huion's latest models... More likely Huion's (despite being in general a XP-Pen guy in the alternatives and leaving the price besides, completely a Wacom person. But I ain't gonna put 2.5k dollars or euros into a tablet, not even while it's my full time job. I...probably should, though.) In the bright side, if one ends up fed up with working over a screen (it already happened to me with a Cintiq WX 12", after 8 months working with it full day, putting the best of me to be able to love the darn thing,...had to sell it second hand), being a 22, 24, or even a 19 inches monitor, u still can use it as a ...Regular monitor! Be it to display references, web articles/documentation/mails from a client, and/or put your UI windows, panels etc there, so to have your main monitor only with your illustration (comic or whatever). Most of us already have a classic tablet, so in that scenario, no real harm done, these screens are slightly better than the standard mainstream monitor (currently most decent mainstream ones are IPS and close to sRGB compliance), so, good to go for those uses! You would have not thrown away ALL of your money, as this use is possible (also with a 16", but not so good for this regular monitor use) and very smart. I'm finding having a second monitor (indeed, more than the matter about painting over a screen or doing so over a classic tablet) it is a total need, once my projects have become more and more complex. Whoever is not required to paint and draw historically accurate stuff, and/or has to research less (ie, making pin-ups from imagination solely, pixel art, or a simplistic webcomic strip) _might_ not find this not really necessary.
The difference in price between these and Wacom 16 which I ultimately went with seemed nominal and worth the extra expense. I use it far more than the Wacom 21UX it replaced for being smaller and lighter, easier to put in my lap and work on in a recliner. My Lenovo laptop has a type C connection which doesn't work with the tablet as it doesn't transfer video like some type C do, but fortunately there is a HDMI port next to it so I attached a USB adapter to the type C port and went that route. Great review, I so agree about the ring being in an inconvenient location. It sticks up too much it appears as well. I'm accustomed to using tablet buttons and so bought a Wacom controller and wonder if it would work on this tablet being as they do with other electronic equipment. Thanks for the tour Boro.
Nice review Boro! :D I have same problem with accidental touching sensor wheel on my Huion HS-610 too, where that wheel is placed also between bottom and top parts of buttons...
14:42 ++ Dots & Stipples issue - Thank you for testing and confirming this important detail/shortcoming! Interesting that it shows the same behavior like the DECO PRO. It's quite annoying and I wonder what the actual cause is: Hardware or Software. I am not sure they ever will fix or improve it. As far as I remember it, the pen needs to move a bit from its initial starting point to draw something... Try this: Tip on the screen AND try not to move in any direction! Try to raise it on the exact same spot! Perpendicular. Not sure, if the speed and frequency made a difference. IMHO, it is more the movement. PS: Maybe you can reach out to XPPEN and report the issue. So I am not the only one ;)
Hey Maik, I think what you're describing might be coming from having Windows Ink on, in an app that doesn't work with it properly. Which is pretty much anything but the latest version of Photoshop (they finally fixed that, and the stroke starts immediately). So try turning it off, if you haven't tried that already. I definitely noticed that happening with Windows Ink on in Corel Painter, but not in Photoshop.
@@BoroCG Hey Boro, I am on the MacOSX and iOS side ;) Back then, I tried almost every available app on my iMac. The dots/stipples issue was everywhere. There were also heavy tilt issues in different apps: No working tilt at all. Probably that has improved over time with newer driver versions. The dots/stipple issue was really hard to describe in english... I wrote many emails, made screenshots and sent them some videos. But they could not fix it.
@@BoroCG I am still referring to the dots/stipples. Not making actual strokes. If you spread multiple dots, you start to move around. Even if you try to stay on a small spot, you would make minimal movements. I think the pen or the software does not like a "zero" movement. The more you move, it seems to draw and respond better.
You cant eyeball monitor colors really /you can compare, in general, with an ipad in example/.but buy a calibrator. I personally use xrite i1 plus, cost about 170 euros , its the best thing I could buy. If you are using screen tablets its a must I think, for screenless tablets, you can just buy some good IPS DELL monitor, they are pretty accurate out of the box from my experience.
I'm curious if the coating is scratch resistant? did you notice if it has scratches after working on it? I have a XP Pen Artist 12, I don't know I'm just pressing too hard but the screen protector has a lot of scratches now it's unpleasant to work with haha
In leftie mode, was it a struggle to turn the tablet on? I was thinking about it bc of the way that the cord appears to cover it (or at least that's what I see)
@@BoroCG I've rarely seen anyone tackle on the left orientation of the tablet (I've only seen two but they didn't really answer my question) so I'm very thankful that you included this in your review and addressed my concerns :)!!
Wow I just tried the dot thingy on my s6 lite tablet (apparently their spen is the same with Wacom One, the cheapest Wacom display tablet), and I have no issue tapping the dots fast... interesting... I hope xppen and huion can catch up with Wacom technology soon!
Just bought this! Probably shouldn't have and my parents won't be happy, but they say it's my money and I can do what I want so, I bought it! Your review really compelled me to buy this, and although it's probably not a good idea considering I've never used a display before, but hey! I saved $300AU haha. Thanks for your review! I might update when it gets delivered.
@@jcdenton6577 hey jc! Its really good! The pressure sensetivity is really nice, and the pens really smooth on the surface! My only complaint is that the display looks grainy. It also takes a it of fiddling to get the pen to calibrate right. But other than that, it's a great display for drawing, or anything really! My review isn't as good as the videos, but that's because I haven't been on it in a while (I've been busy lol), so, sorry if it's not much!
Is there the same issue with tilt in the artist 15.6 pro model? And is the screen brightness about the same for both of them? I'm stuck between the two 😅
For the "pointillism" : Maybe trying disabling the stabilizer (in PS you had it at zero, but maybe PS is way laggy by itself compared to clip studio...). Or seeing if in the XP control panel is there a feature like in Wacom panel, to detect or not the tip "hovering", before making actual contact (might help avoiding the fast detection issue). Last idea: trying with "Windows Ink" enabled or disabled in your XP control panel, and also trying apps that require windows ink and other that doesn't. As that has also quite to do with pen response. Each app use those differently as well, so, more factors.
@@BoroCG I know... I've used that technique with my XL years ago... trying to find the "hack" here, at least one single way to make it work in at least some functional way for the pointillists.... ;) . You know, for a cheaper price, if they have a workaround... About that.. this one is 500$, not much cheaper than the Wacom 16. Although maybe the Cintiq's sRGB-only coverage might be poorer, narrower color space. But am fine with sRGB-only screens, even for printing illustrations...So, kindda hard decision between the two, for those after one 16 inches tablet (am a 22-24 person). The cintiq might not show some very intense extreme colors, but... EDIT: Just checked, this model is now at 400$ only, for the 20% discount on all their (XP-Pen) products for the 15th yr anniversary... So...maybe _now_ is really a no brainer. After the discount, it depends on the user. Both checked in their USA stores (not my country, but...), now is 650$ for the Wacom Cintiq 16. That 150$ difference or a bit more is the price of an just fine colorimeter, first hand, on Amazon, or the entire Affinity suite. So, there's that. Edit: And the new 24 is now at 720$ with the anniversary... huge temptation incoming. Never mind, XP doesn't distribute to my country, and in Amazon is 1k euros, sigh...
I am very confused at this moment, whether I should buy this Innovator 16 or Ipad Air 4 (2020)? Considering the display color output, and overall performance?
A free spinning wheel is great if it's in the right location. My Griffin Powermate is one of my favorite devices I've ever purchased because it feels like I'm spinning a mini turntable.
I know that probably nobody wants to do custom stuff to a new product, but adding an L-shaped cable holder to hold the weight of the cable could be a good and cheap solution to prevent movement in the socket. (if needed)
Something not many people mention, you can power the tablet through USB only, no need for extra power, as long as you have USB ports in your PC you can power it through 2 usb ports.
So, would I need to buy a screen protector, or will the screen on this device be totally safe right out of the box? (Do people with screen tablets use screen protectors? I do not own one yet so I am unsure.)
Great review I have been considering getting either xp or huion 16 display. I had a Wacom 22hd and sold it when I bought my ipad Pro. Unfortunately the pro is too small and has effected my turnaround times. That is why I am looking for a bigger display, but not prepared to pay Wacom prices anymore. The ipad is just so good to draw with. I think apple should jump on this, and produce a 16 inch competitor. They could really threaten Wacom.
Regarding a tablet display not being good for your spine and stuff: I use an adjustable stand for my tablet (XP-Pen Artist 15.6) which has three angles. The highest angle is almost vertical. I adjust my chair as low as it'll go. Doing this allows me to get almost exactly eye level with the tablet so I'm not craning my neck down and hunching my shoulders and back. I understand for your setup this may not be practical or possible, but it works for me, and it's the only way I can use my tablet. Otherwise I get very sore because, like you said, looking down like that for extended duration isn't the best for you.
@@BoroCG That's fair and all but I simply prefer a tablet display. Even after years of using a slate-style tablet, the tablet display felt so much better and more intuitive to use. I still have a Wacom tablet somewhere but idk where and I don't really care. lol
Hi, this is the best review I've found for this display (but can't seem to find one for the 15.6 pro so sorry for the questions but I was wondering if you have found there to be the same issue with tilt at the bottom of the screen in the 15.6 pro? And would you say the screen is any brighter or roughly the same? 😅
I just got it for $300 on Amazon. It was normally $500, but they had a $100 off coupon available (maybe a Black Friday deal? I don't know), plus Amazon usually has a credit card they want you to sign up for, this time around it was in exchange for $125 gift card. So applying both discounts at checkout, it came in around $300 after tax. I'll just cancel the card in a week or so.
Somehow I miss my essential test, the diagonal ruler test for bumps/wobble.... Forgive me if you already made that test in the first (more about unboxing) part....
I still have that issue of the pen clicking before touching the screen. It gets non usable very fast. I'm used to see my cursor when i hover the screen (i feel this is wrong, but okay, i can accept that behaviour), but if it is drawing or clicking when i dont touch the surface at all is a no no. This problem is a plague on all XP-Pen tablet i used so far (XP 16 Pro, 15.6, Inno 16). No issue with Huion Kamvas 22 and Cintiq 22, but they use a different tech.
I'm so confused between xp-pen innovator 16 and ipad 10.2 because it cost the same including ipencil, i want procreate but i also want bigger screen😩 its my first time buying a screen tablet so i'm just really confused 😩
The reason the first Nib gets destroyed so quickly it's because of the dumb paper surface texture that's on the plastic (Wacom does this also) this texture quickly degrades the Nib but the paper texture doesn't last long and it eventually disappears, you don't even notice (So what's the point) but that's why the subsequent nibs last so long. And you explain this right after I type it, f me :p
I'm in the market for a 16" tablet and had been looking at the Huion Kamvas Pro 16 until I saw this. Can anyone weigh in on which would be a better pick? They have similar price. Thanks.
I have the Kamvas 16 and there are problems with it and customer support is nonexistent. They've never contacted me yet, and I have had to replace the cable 6 times in less than 18 months. I'm stationary too, but I set is aside and just that movement beaks the wires where it enters the oen display.
Srgb 200 nits for artist 15.6 Pro was pritty good and easy to calabrate with dcal at 75% brightness. I suspect it to be equally as good or better in this product.
Well... Advice here... before the model becomes obsolete, with this or any other model, purchase an extra cable at least (even within the tablet order, for less hassle). Later on companies remove replacement parts from stock. Just for the peace of mind it's worth it. I have an intuos 4 XL, and these lovely behemoths came with the cable attached (that I know, no way even to replace the cable, as it's "glued") . And yeah, Wacoms are sturdy, yet tho, would have loved a detachable cable, and would have one or two for replacement. I mean, as they're not wacom, that cable is surely cheap, and it's really worth it to get already a replacement.
@3polygons I have Intuos 4 L, and this one has the detachable mini-usb cable. Only it doesn't help much: the ports fall apart. There's two ports on the tablet, and only one works today, at good angles.
@@BoroCG Ouch! It seems hardware is hardware after all, even in the premium models. I've treated the XL like a baby since 2009, no issues, but every time I move the tablet I fear for the cable... Thing is, the XP-Pen Deco Pro Medium is not much smaller than a Wacom L, and only 130$. I see a real deal there for an emergency (or even permanent) replacement (to think my XL costed 800 bucks, sigh...).
With an ipad you are limited to a very small screen, and limited software selection, and to a closed and limited OS. I wouldn't have it as a primary solution, but _maybe_ as a secondary (for short sessions and sketching, or to do some work on the move, even if not final work). IE: Once you have a display-tablet or classic tablet for your PC, then later on think of the iPad, if you still want to. For ergonomics, you will last better long sessions (meaning 5 to 8 hours) a day with a 22 -24 display-tablet than with an iPad or a 12 - 16 inches tablet-display, and even better, just with a classic tablet (your back, neck, arm, wrist and eyesight will suffer quite less) would be the healthiest. But a lot of people can't get used to classic tablets, so it depends on you. Comic inkers... Lately am on the thought that they'd better just ink on paper (then scan and etc). Tablets, even the best ones, are eons away from the precision of a human hand. That is a fact. If you are not inking or doing other form of precise *line art* , just painting, you are FULLY good to go with a cheap XP-Pen Deco Pro *MEDIUM*. Nobody needs anything else for painting, and that's only 130$!. It's the royal deal of latest years. We did not have solutions like this even just 5 years ago. I ink comics with a classic tablet, so, it's doable, but I needed a very long training for that, while I could have inked on paper since day one. As the training is only getting used to the inaccurate solution that any tablet is. That said... having the Innovator 16 or a Cintiq 16 just for inking (which needs that kind of accuracy), then doing all the other work with just a classic tablet... is not a bad idea, also, you will be working for all other projects with your surely much bigger and comfy monitor.
@@3polygons Oh yeah. Display! this word I could not remember at night. I have a classic tablet without a display. I am also a student in a foreign country, often on the move. better something more autonomous. ok, thanks a lot for your input(づ￣ ³￣)づ
@@basildraws that might works for less detailed project, but for more detailed one i don't think that will look good. but I might be wrong, i never do full pointilism project digitally...
AO Jin yeah, I just did a quick and dirty test in procreate. Starting w a duplicate of the basic round brush, Spacing to 80%, jitter to 110%, no other tweaks. Very nice “Dots” shader.
AO Jin I don’t do it at all, so my opinion is junk anyway. I’m just saying that a custom brush set ‘could’ minimize that problem for broad areas, then slowing down for more localized sections.... may be a decent workaround.
They may have placed a rough screen protector on it that wears the nib down faster. Cintiqs generally have smoother default screens compared to the latest Intuos Pros. Those wear down nibs like sandpaper.
I've been contemplating to buy this as a secondary/traveling/mobile display tablet because my 13" hp spectre x360 pen is too small... But the Samsung tab s7+ gonna come out soon... We'll see which one gonna come on top
@@FarhanKhan18 I had a huion H610 pro... It broke down... I was planning to buy a tab like this, I mean with a screen (Idk what to call it)... And was wondering if these type of Tabs can be connected to My Laptop.
@@adityayadav3779 As long as you have an HDMI connection (you can buy an adapter if you don't have that style of connection) and open USB ports (at least 2), you should be good to go!
@@FarhanKhan18 XP-Pen is a "division of Chinese company Hanvon Ugee Technology Co., Ltd. [and] developed in Japan in 2005". (Wiki), and they have a US warehouse and a China warehouse.
The dots test is not a good test, in my opinion. Doesn't prove anything. I have a 24 inch Wacom Cintiq and it still can't make quick dots with whatever brush you use.
nah man, video of excuses, tablet itself not that good. I had INTUOS PRO from WACOM, and Huion KAMVAS and I can assure you with certainty that this tablet is simply disgusting, you say that you can put up with everything and everything is fine on this tablet, but in the end you just justify the people who paid you money for advertising. Huion Kamvas does not have one of these problems so why should people choose this tablet
'video of excuses', tell that to wacom who expects us to buy their 4+ yr old tech with way less features at full price around 2k$. they didnt come out with anything at CES 2021, cintiq 16 non-pro is the most expensive by $100 over other 16 inches and has none of the features that made it worth getting, and they DISCONTINUED the 13 and 16 pro...... no thanks.
11:33 A colorimeter is not really expensive (way cheaper than the tablet), and it's really helpful better than just guessing... also, perception and your room lighting can fool a lot even an expert illustrator... (I learned that the hard way printing stuff). There are a few good video tutorials (just pick the good ones) in youtube about the basic procedure, it is really worth it for display tablets and making graphics and art in general, with them or regular monitors. I wouldn't say it is only critical for Hollywood color graders or photo labs experts.... As a brother in arms illustrator, I can confirm a colorimeter is kind of a must (yeah, even if just doing eventual commissions) if anything that one does has a print output (well, even for screen only, too. But in that case, sticking to sRGB in the hardware profile, and in your apps makes wonders). That and neutral lighting bulbs (6500K color temperature, don't rely on just "daylight" marketing terms in the bulb's box). I'd say that (lighting in general) is even more important, while very cheap of an improvement. I hate white lights for other rooms, as they "feel" too cold, but for work, definitely nothing affecting my colors. I see this tablet has there a sRGB and a 6500K presets...Might not be a bad thing (for slightly more accurate colors) to try and just use one of those, if having no colorimeter.
The screen texture vs wacom is due to Xp-Pen using a protective plastic film that protects the screen rather than the glass screen being etched, it brings the price down doing it this way. An etched screen would mean the glass would have to be better and harder. Its main Chinese competitor Huion, would have etched glass. Huion and Xp-Pen are basically the two companies fighting for second place vs wacom while still trying to be budget friendly.
Yeah, Gaomon is kinda quiet these days, right?
@@BoroCG They did release the pd156 pro and their 22 inch late last year with laminated screens being their new spec which would put them next to the Xp-Pen displays as a competitor in terms of the screen tech specs checklist aside from maybe pen drivers and color gamut off the top of my head. I just think their biggest problem is still just marketing tho sadly, plus laminated screens are something the others have had for awhile now. The basically 3 year gap since the pd1560 vs the now pro release just allowed the others to make a lot more head way with marketing and innovation.
It's not much competition, XP pen beats Huion quite easily. XP pen is actually a serious threat against Wacom. Wacom should concentrate on the high end, high quality, high price segment of the market, at the budget level XP pen dominates.
@@SkepticalCaveman I mean the XP-Pen vs Huion stuff really just comes down to preference due to how price wise they both offer products that are priced exactly the same, and that includes their flagships. XP-Pen just has yet to have etched glass at all instead of using films. They're both close to Wacom but still got a while to go since Wacom pen performance is still unmatched overall plus their stuff comes in with the colors pre-calibrated.
@@TheOmniBro The difference is quality, Huion has had a lot of quality problems, bad design and terrible drivers. XP pen has none of that.
This is a really good review! You go through a lot of the features and that really helps to decide weather id get it or not
its not.
I bought this tablet because of your reviews. Your reviews are a lot more helpful than others! 😊
Deeply agree.
Mhm! I am planing to get it for Christmas or my b-day
I have an ancient Wacom Bamboo, and I just ordered one of these on the back of you and Grant Abbitt's reviews. I appreciate you being so thorough, thanks. Can't wait to receive it.
I'm in same situation- how do you like it after 11 months?
@@datjeepcray4188 I'm not a daily user by any stretch, as I'm just a hobbyist. But I've found it to be great value for money. Good screen, pen works great, easy to set up etc. I would recommend it for sure. The only drawback is that it connects with 3 cables, when it seems like it could be done with a single Thunderbolt cable.
@@leigh9360 Awesome! Yeah, I'm not crazy about the extra cables, perhaps the cost of licensing Thunderbolt would bring the price point too high or alienate PC users?
My desk is awash in cables- I'll live-
I'm not a daily user either- I'll mostly use it for photo retouch and light turning images to vectors type shit for screen printing, stencils and lino blocks. I guess you could call all of that 'print making'
I want to mention how nice the camera separation is in your videos. A good looking dotted-wavey design, not just a bland line of two videos put together :D
The added dots seem to make the wave less distracting than before. Plus it looks even cooler. Nice one. Can't wait to see more art :D
Yeah. I’ve been use this tablet for a month, and the quick click is really annoying me. I don’t use dots on my paint, but there are obvious problem opening file folder!!! About the special brushes, I’ve had a nice experience on the Krita with the rotatable brushes.
Good review. Really hoping they make the jump to QHD resolution in their next iteration.
I really want to see innovator 16 pro with qhd resolution on future. That would be so good.
Some type C cables don't have the display capabilities in them and some only do data transfer so it depends on the cables you buy
He mentioned using the cable from his Pixel phone. That is likely just a USB 2.0 cable, which supports 480 Mbps and PD (Power Delivery) but doesn't support video or Lightning or VirtualLink. I would love if @BoroCG could acquire a fully featured USB-C cable (one that supports HDMI or DisplayPort alternate modes should probably work) since this is the main question I have before buying this tablet. My GeForce RTX 2070 has a VirtualLink-compatible USB-C output and I would really like to plug this tablet into that through a single cable. I really hope it works because that is my one complaint that makes this tablet currently seem less-than-premium.
@@Keavon from their 24 inch tablet version, they have the usb c cables which I saw in this review www.parkablogs.com/content/review-xp-pen-artist-24-pro-1440p-usb-c-pen-display but i have no idea if it'll work with the 16 inch one
FYI, XP-pen was developed and founded in Japan. Although the parent company is a Chinese one like you mentioned.
You need to get the Wacom cintiq pro usb c cable to test out if it works with usb c to usb c. The cable itself needs to support display port out. Your phones charger won’t have any of that display port out stuff so you need to get a cable that supports that ! I say the Wacom cable because it is designed for display, power and data transfer
not all type-c ports are the same. Most type-c ports on a desktop don't have display port alternate mode while many on a laptop will especially if it's a thunderbolt port. The only type c port on a desktop guaranteed to have display port alternate would be the vr-link port on the RTX 20 series GPUs
I really like the vibe of Outlandish Curiosity!!
What would you recommend as first tablet: XP-Pen Deco Pro or XP-Pen Innovator 16? Main use case is Blender 3D.
Deco Pro. Though it's biggest size is not so big, for Blender it will be just right
I agree. Get the Medium, not the Small, this matter is quite important.
Thanks, just ordered it. Can't wait to get it. Let's hope the Covid delays are not too big.
I bought this for blender
I've seen both parts of the review in my recommendations and gotta say, you made me laugh for real. You're funny with your reactions, dude! For that, you have an instant subscriber! :)
As for the tablet, I guess I'd be better off with the Wacom One. Pen Quality is really important to me in my view regardless of lack of express keys and color accuracy.
The only one single thing I want from XP-PEN is to allow me to personalize the pencil keys for every program. When I'm using Photoshop I like to switch between pencil and eraser but this is useless in 3D applications and I don't like to change it every time.
Can anyone tell me how this compares to the XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro.
Update: I ended up buying the artist 22r pro
The innovator 16 is a more modern model. Typically this also means improved, bugs fixed, firmware improved, better design, etc. The issue with that is sometimes the super new stuff has not had time for users and reviewers to catch potential problems....
Also the wheel-disk seems a bit more advanced in Innovator. The active area is the same.... the color coverage is almost the same (maybe slightly better in Innovator). The pen's report rate is a bit better in Innovator (220 RPS vs 200 rps), but that's surely not really noticed, plus, there are too many factors besides that value to speak about lag differences, altho in equal circumstance, yep, should be better.
The stand is the same cr4p for both : Like Boro says, you're gonna want to get you a third party good stand from Amazon that allows better angles. Or directly an Ergotrom arm (if your table is thick enough), if any of these tablets has a proper vesa mounting area. Anyway, there are also - very cheap- pieces on Amazon to adapt less standard ones to vesa, if that'd be the case.
The contrast ratio seems to be amazing in this Innovator model: 1200:1, if true, is REALLY good. Can't find the value for theArtist 15.6 Pro, but I'd be to believe might be worse.
Neither can find the response timefor the Artist model, but yep in the Innovator, 16ms... not great, but should be fine for painting. The Huion Kanvas Pro 22 (2019) version, that exact version, has a 8ms time, which is amazing and not very common in the industry of painting tablets.
Overall, I'd get the Innovator among those two, if I weren't so convinced of a 22 inches being the way to go. Meaning, in my book an older XP-pen 22E pro is a much better purchase for almost the same price, specially now with their anniversary offer. With the 24 model out, the 22R makes zero sense.
If you carry around the tablet, and your bag fits exactly 256 mm wide devices, but not a 280 mm wide one (that'd be a rare case! is only a 3 cm difference(a bit more than an inch)), well, that's another reason for the Innovator. Both are just as long (or wide, should I say...), 443 mm.
There seems there was a firmware issue (related to making very tiny line details) with the 22R. I suspect it has been fixed in the 24 model and this Innovator. So, specially now I'd only go with the newer models...
I own Artist 15.6 Pro and not this one but just judging by this review the Artist Pro is essentially the same, but it does have the steps in the scrolling wheel and it does not have the fast dots problem.
Plus my first nib did not wear off quickly which means that the surface of the Artist Pro is better manufactured to begin with, i guess.
The only functional difference from what i can tell is that the Innovator has that touch wheel.
@@3polygons I love the design language of the Innovator, it's just the size that's holding me back. I have a Samsung Galaxy Book 12 right now as my sole machine and looking to get a desktop setup again, and going from 12" 3:2 to 15.6" 16:9 isn't enough for me to invest.
If they make an Innovator 22 with a QHD screen, a better built in stand (and a smidge thicker so there's no flex), I'm sold.
Between the same size Artist pro this Innovator wins hands down because of build quality, touch screen, updated pen and portability for a slightly higher price but I guess a 22'' is still better because of size but I went with this one for the price and portability.
@@Zeriel00 If one badly needs portability, the 22 is no way for most people. I would manage to carry one as I hate with a passion working in smaller screens (but I have long arms as to carry that or a tower, lol). It's definitely NOT 'portable', is a 22 inches monitor! But I prefer to lose portability for production time, ergonomics and etc...
I'm planning to get a 24 inches display-tablet (for a mixed use, mostly for inking! ; I'd still be using the classic tablet most of the time, or using the 24" as a classic), undecided between the XP-Pen and Huion's latest models... More likely Huion's (despite being in general a XP-Pen guy in the alternatives and leaving the price besides, completely a Wacom person. But I ain't gonna put 2.5k dollars or euros into a tablet, not even while it's my full time job. I...probably should, though.)
In the bright side, if one ends up fed up with working over a screen (it already happened to me with a Cintiq WX 12", after 8 months working with it full day, putting the best of me to be able to love the darn thing,...had to sell it second hand), being a 22, 24, or even a 19 inches monitor, u still can use it as a ...Regular monitor! Be it to display references, web articles/documentation/mails from a client, and/or put your UI windows, panels etc there, so to have your main monitor only with your illustration (comic or whatever). Most of us already have a classic tablet, so in that scenario, no real harm done, these screens are slightly better than the standard mainstream monitor (currently most decent mainstream ones are IPS and close to sRGB compliance), so, good to go for those uses! You would have not thrown away ALL of your money, as this use is possible (also with a 16", but not so good for this regular monitor use) and very smart.
I'm finding having a second monitor (indeed, more than the matter about painting over a screen or doing so over a classic tablet) it is a total need, once my projects have become more and more complex. Whoever is not required to paint and draw historically accurate stuff, and/or has to research less (ie, making pin-ups from imagination solely, pixel art, or a simplistic webcomic strip) _might_ not find this not really necessary.
The difference in price between these and Wacom 16 which I ultimately went with seemed nominal and worth the extra expense. I use it far more than the Wacom 21UX it replaced for being smaller and lighter, easier to put in my lap and work on in a recliner. My Lenovo laptop has a type C connection which doesn't work with the tablet as it doesn't transfer video like some type C do, but fortunately there is a HDMI port next to it so I attached a USB adapter to the type C port and went that route. Great review, I so agree about the ring being in an inconvenient location. It sticks up too much it appears as well. I'm accustomed to using tablet buttons and so bought a Wacom controller and wonder if it would work on this tablet being as they do with other electronic equipment. Thanks for the tour Boro.
I love the part where you said "Go buy some $5,000 or something" lolol.
Nice review Boro! :D
I have same problem with accidental touching sensor wheel on my Huion HS-610 too, where that wheel is placed also between bottom and top parts of buttons...
14:42 ++ Dots & Stipples issue - Thank you for testing and confirming this important detail/shortcoming! Interesting that it shows the same behavior like the DECO PRO. It's quite annoying and I wonder what the actual cause is: Hardware or Software. I am not sure they ever will fix or improve it. As far as I remember it, the pen needs to move a bit from its initial starting point to draw something... Try this: Tip on the screen AND try not to move in any direction! Try to raise it on the exact same spot! Perpendicular. Not sure, if the speed and frequency made a difference. IMHO, it is more the movement.
PS: Maybe you can reach out to XPPEN and report the issue. So I am not the only one ;)
Hey Maik, I think what you're describing might be coming from having Windows Ink on, in an app that doesn't work with it properly. Which is pretty much anything but the latest version of Photoshop (they finally fixed that, and the stroke starts immediately). So try turning it off, if you haven't tried that already. I definitely noticed that happening with Windows Ink on in Corel Painter, but not in Photoshop.
@@BoroCG Hey Boro, I am on the MacOSX and iOS side ;) Back then, I tried almost every available app on my iMac. The dots/stipples issue was everywhere. There were also heavy tilt issues in different apps: No working tilt at all. Probably that has improved over time with newer driver versions. The dots/stipple issue was really hard to describe in english... I wrote many emails, made screenshots and sent them some videos. But they could not fix it.
@@BoroCG I am still referring to the dots/stipples. Not making actual strokes. If you spread multiple dots, you start to move around. Even if you try to stay on a small spot, you would make minimal movements. I think the pen or the software does not like a "zero" movement. The more you move, it seems to draw and respond better.
You cant eyeball monitor colors really /you can compare, in general, with an ipad in example/.but buy a calibrator.
I personally use xrite i1 plus, cost about 170 euros , its the best thing I could buy.
If you are using screen tablets its a must I think, for screenless tablets, you can just buy some good IPS DELL monitor, they are pretty accurate out of the box from my experience.
I'm curious if the coating is scratch resistant? did you notice if it has scratches after working on it? I have a XP Pen Artist 12, I don't know I'm just pressing too hard but the screen protector has a lot of scratches now it's unpleasant to work with haha
I have an Artist Pro 15.6 and yes there'll be scratches on it I'll try removing the screen protector to see if it won't have any
In leftie mode, was it a struggle to turn the tablet on? I was thinking about it bc of the way that the cord appears to cover it (or at least that's what I see)
It's a bit uncomfortable, but usable. People seem to use this orientation of the cable even in right-handed mode
@@BoroCG I've rarely seen anyone tackle on the left orientation of the tablet (I've only seen two but they didn't really answer my question) so I'm very thankful that you included this in your review and addressed my concerns :)!!
I just leave the tablet on all the time and disable the screen from windows when not using it
Wow I just tried the dot thingy on my s6 lite tablet (apparently their spen is the same with Wacom One, the cheapest Wacom display tablet), and I have no issue tapping the dots fast... interesting... I hope xppen and huion can catch up with Wacom technology soon!
Just bought this! Probably shouldn't have and my parents won't be happy, but they say it's my money and I can do what I want so, I bought it!
Your review really compelled me to buy this, and although it's probably not a good idea considering I've never used a display before, but hey! I saved $300AU haha. Thanks for your review! I might update when it gets delivered.
Please update!
@@jcdenton6577 hey jc!
Its really good! The pressure sensetivity is really nice, and the pens really smooth on the surface! My only complaint is that the display looks grainy. It also takes a it of fiddling to get the pen to calibrate right. But other than that, it's a great display for drawing, or anything really! My review isn't as good as the videos, but that's because I haven't been on it in a while (I've been busy lol), so, sorry if it's not much!
@@viviini Thanks!
excellent video and so thorough! thank you! :D i love your honesty! :)
Is there the same issue with tilt in the artist 15.6 pro model? And is the screen brightness about the same for both of them?
I'm stuck between the two 😅
For the "pointillism" : Maybe trying disabling the stabilizer (in PS you had it at zero, but maybe PS is way laggy by itself compared to clip studio...). Or seeing if in the XP control panel is there a feature like in Wacom panel, to detect or not the tip "hovering", before making actual contact (might help avoiding the fast detection issue). Last idea: trying with "Windows Ink" enabled or disabled in your XP control panel, and also trying apps that require windows ink and other that doesn't. As that has also quite to do with pen response. Each app use those differently as well, so, more factors.
Yeah I tried turning off all kinds of stuff. It all comes down to the fact that Wacom works perfectly in the same conditions
@@BoroCG I know... I've used that technique with my XL years ago... trying to find the "hack" here, at least one single way to make it work in at least some functional way for the pointillists.... ;) . You know, for a cheaper price, if they have a workaround... About that.. this one is 500$, not much cheaper than the Wacom 16. Although maybe the Cintiq's sRGB-only coverage might be poorer, narrower color space. But am fine with sRGB-only screens, even for printing illustrations...So, kindda hard decision between the two, for those after one 16 inches tablet (am a 22-24 person). The cintiq might not show some very intense extreme colors, but...
EDIT: Just checked, this model is now at 400$ only, for the 20% discount on all their (XP-Pen) products for the 15th yr anniversary... So...maybe _now_ is really a no brainer. After the discount, it depends on the user. Both checked in their USA stores (not my country, but...), now is 650$ for the Wacom Cintiq 16. That 150$ difference or a bit more is the price of an just fine colorimeter, first hand, on Amazon, or the entire Affinity suite. So, there's that.
Edit: And the new 24 is now at 720$ with the anniversary... huge temptation incoming. Never mind, XP doesn't distribute to my country, and in Amazon is 1k euros, sigh...
Really good review! I like the honesty! for $500 not bad :) I ended up going with an iPad pro though!
I am very confused at this moment, whether I should buy this Innovator 16 or Ipad Air 4 (2020)? Considering the display color output, and overall performance?
I love you Boro
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This is great! I’m curious as to how it compares to the cintiq 16 though and where I could be able to find a cintiq.
Do you know how it compares to a cintiq 16 by any chance?
A free spinning wheel is great if it's in the right location. My Griffin Powermate is one of my favorite devices I've ever purchased because it feels like I'm spinning a mini turntable.
hello , love
your stuff , i m on the road to paint like you , i really like your painting look and the ideas itself
I know that probably nobody wants to do custom stuff to a new product, but adding an L-shaped cable holder to hold the weight of the cable could be a good and cheap solution to prevent movement in the socket. (if needed)
Pls, can you tell me if XP-PEN Innovator 16 is working with the XP-PEN Artist 15.6 Pro Stylus, i beg of you, pls
Another good video brother boro.
Something not many people mention, you can power the tablet through USB only, no need for extra power, as long as you have USB ports in your PC you can power it through 2 usb ports.
At full brightness? That's cool, I mentioned you can just unplug the power cable, and it'll work with 50% brightness
@@BoroCG yes, I tried that on the 15 inch model, powered by the 2 USB cords in 2 separate USB ports.
So, would I need to buy a screen protector, or will the screen on this device be totally safe right out of the box? (Do people with screen tablets use screen protectors? I do not own one yet so I am unsure.)
Can't speak for others, but I don't. I use a wacom cintiq.
Great review I have been considering getting either xp or huion 16 display. I had a Wacom 22hd and sold it when I bought my ipad Pro. Unfortunately the pro is too small and has effected my turnaround times. That is why I am looking for a bigger display, but not prepared to pay Wacom prices anymore. The ipad is just so good to draw with. I think apple should jump on this, and produce a 16 inch competitor. They could really threaten Wacom.
I think it has to be thunderbold though im not sure for the usb c connection
Regarding a tablet display not being good for your spine and stuff:
I use an adjustable stand for my tablet (XP-Pen Artist 15.6) which has three angles. The highest angle is almost vertical. I adjust my chair as low as it'll go. Doing this allows me to get almost exactly eye level with the tablet so I'm not craning my neck down and hunching my shoulders and back.
I understand for your setup this may not be practical or possible, but it works for me, and it's the only way I can use my tablet. Otherwise I get very sore because, like you said, looking down like that for extended duration isn't the best for you.
Haha yeah that's almost enough. Or, you know, you could use a screen-less tablet and sit like a human being at an appropriate height :D
@@BoroCG That's fair and all but I simply prefer a tablet display. Even after years of using a slate-style tablet, the tablet display felt so much better and more intuitive to use. I still have a Wacom tablet somewhere but idk where and I don't really care. lol
Hi, this is the best review I've found for this display (but can't seem to find one for the 15.6 pro so sorry for the questions but I was wondering if you have found there to be the same issue with tilt at the bottom of the screen in the 15.6 pro? And would you say the screen is any brighter or roughly the same? 😅
Where can i find a stand like yours? with my little research i found out most cheap tablets don't have screws on the back for a stand
I just got it for $300 on Amazon. It was normally $500, but they had a $100 off coupon available (maybe a Black Friday deal? I don't know), plus Amazon usually has a credit card they want you to sign up for, this time around it was in exchange for $125 gift card. So applying both discounts at checkout, it came in around $300 after tax. I'll just cancel the card in a week or so.
Somehow I miss my essential test, the diagonal ruler test for bumps/wobble.... Forgive me if you already made that test in the first (more about unboxing) part....
I did, yes
@@BoroCG Thanks, I will check it now. :)
I still have that issue of the pen clicking before touching the screen. It gets non usable very fast.
I'm used to see my cursor when i hover the screen (i feel this is wrong, but okay, i can accept that behaviour), but if it is drawing or clicking when i dont touch the surface at all is a no no.
This problem is a plague on all XP-Pen tablet i used so far (XP 16 Pro, 15.6, Inno 16). No issue with Huion Kamvas 22 and Cintiq 22, but they use a different tech.
I'm so confused between xp-pen innovator 16 and ipad 10.2 because it cost the same including ipencil, i want procreate but i also want bigger screen😩 its my first time buying a screen tablet so i'm just really confused 😩
If u can only buy one, apple pencil with ipad.
The reason the first Nib gets destroyed so quickly it's because of the dumb paper surface texture that's on the plastic (Wacom does this also) this texture quickly degrades the Nib but the paper texture doesn't last long and it eventually disappears, you don't even notice (So what's the point) but that's why the subsequent nibs last so long. And you explain this right after I type it, f me :p
Could you make a review for this tablet with Zbrush?
I'm in the market for a 16" tablet and had been looking at the Huion Kamvas Pro 16 until I saw this. Can anyone weigh in on which would be a better pick? They have similar price. Thanks.
the kamvas 16 2021 edition seems to be the best huion right now
I have the Kamvas 16 and there are problems with it and customer support is nonexistent. They've never contacted me yet, and I have had to replace the cable 6 times in less than 18 months. I'm stationary too, but I set is aside and just that movement beaks the wires where it enters the oen display.
Srgb 200 nits for artist 15.6 Pro was pritty good and easy to calabrate with dcal at 75% brightness. I suspect it to be equally as good or better in this product.
only problem i got with this one is the tilt functionality not working on the edges of the screen
Veery well done sir
i think the cable is most concerning
usually people expect a power cable and USB or USB-C
or atleast power cable HDMI cable and USB to USB-c
Well... Advice here... before the model becomes obsolete, with this or any other model, purchase an extra cable at least (even within the tablet order, for less hassle). Later on companies remove replacement parts from stock. Just for the peace of mind it's worth it. I have an intuos 4 XL, and these lovely behemoths came with the cable attached (that I know, no way even to replace the cable, as it's "glued") . And yeah, Wacoms are sturdy, yet tho, would have loved a detachable cable, and would have one or two for replacement. I mean, as they're not wacom, that cable is surely cheap, and it's really worth it to get already a replacement.
@3polygons I have Intuos 4 L, and this one has the detachable mini-usb cable. Only it doesn't help much: the ports fall apart. There's two ports on the tablet, and only one works today, at good angles.
@@BoroCG Ouch! It seems hardware is hardware after all, even in the premium models. I've treated the XL like a baby since 2009, no issues, but every time I move the tablet I fear for the cable... Thing is, the XP-Pen Deco Pro Medium is not much smaller than a Wacom L, and only 130$. I see a real deal there for an emergency (or even permanent) replacement (to think my XL costed 800 bucks, sigh...).
dose it feels like paper
like the Wacom pro
Many people have issue uaing photoshop, is there any problem in youe drawing tablet ?
No issues in Photoshop.
Guys, should I buy Ipad pro 2020? If I doesn't have any gtablet with monitor?
With an ipad you are limited to a very small screen, and limited software selection, and to a closed and limited OS. I wouldn't have it as a primary solution, but _maybe_ as a secondary (for short sessions and sketching, or to do some work on the move, even if not final work). IE: Once you have a display-tablet or classic tablet for your PC, then later on think of the iPad, if you still want to. For ergonomics, you will last better long sessions (meaning 5 to 8 hours) a day with a 22 -24 display-tablet than with an iPad or a 12 - 16 inches tablet-display, and even better, just with a classic tablet (your back, neck, arm, wrist and eyesight will suffer quite less) would be the healthiest. But a lot of people can't get used to classic tablets, so it depends on you. Comic inkers... Lately am on the thought that they'd better just ink on paper (then scan and etc). Tablets, even the best ones, are eons away from the precision of a human hand. That is a fact. If you are not inking or doing other form of precise *line art* , just painting, you are FULLY good to go with a cheap XP-Pen Deco Pro *MEDIUM*. Nobody needs anything else for painting, and that's only 130$!. It's the royal deal of latest years. We did not have solutions like this even just 5 years ago. I ink comics with a classic tablet, so, it's doable, but I needed a very long training for that, while I could have inked on paper since day one. As the training is only getting used to the inaccurate solution that any tablet is. That said... having the Innovator 16 or a Cintiq 16 just for inking (which needs that kind of accuracy), then doing all the other work with just a classic tablet... is not a bad idea, also, you will be working for all other projects with your surely much bigger and comfy monitor.
@@3polygons Oh yeah. Display! this word I could not remember at night. I have a classic tablet without a display. I am also a student in a foreign country, often on the move. better something more autonomous. ok, thanks a lot for your input(づ￣ ³￣)づ
If dots are a problem, why not set up a brush with a big step size, then just stroke like normal? Is that a dumb question?
the dots won't looks natural at all. it will just become a dotted line
AO Jin : jitter
@@basildraws that might works for less detailed project, but for more detailed one i don't think that will look good. but I might be wrong, i never do full pointilism project digitally...
AO Jin yeah, I just did a quick and dirty test in procreate. Starting w a duplicate of the basic round brush, Spacing to 80%, jitter to 110%, no other tweaks. Very nice “Dots” shader.
AO Jin I don’t do it at all, so my opinion is junk anyway. I’m just saying that a custom brush set ‘could’ minimize that problem for broad areas, then slowing down for more localized sections.... may be a decent workaround.
Is it good for making webtoon?
i've never used up one nib. I dont understand how people can wear them down. Ive had cintiqs for over a decade and never changed out a nib.
They may have placed a rough screen protector on it that wears the nib down faster. Cintiqs generally have smoother default screens compared to the latest Intuos Pros. Those wear down nibs like sandpaper.
I've been contemplating to buy this as a secondary/traveling/mobile display tablet because my 13" hp spectre x360 pen is too small... But the Samsung tab s7+ gonna come out soon... We'll see which one gonna come on top
This or wacom one?
Im getting an XP pen because I don't intend to give Wacom my soul and my first born for a Cintiq
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Omg imagine needing Wacom solely for drawing dots
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I can't connect that to my Laptop???
aditya Yadav just buy a Wacom
@@FarhanKhan18 I had a huion H610 pro... It broke down... I was planning to buy a tab like this, I mean with a screen (Idk what to call it)... And was wondering if these type of Tabs can be connected to My Laptop.
@@adityayadav3779 As long as you have an HDMI connection (you can buy an adapter if you don't have that style of connection) and open USB ports (at least 2), you should be good to go!
Buy it from Japan not China
@@FarhanKhan18 XP-Pen is a "division of Chinese company Hanvon Ugee Technology Co., Ltd. [and] developed in Japan in 2005". (Wiki), and they have a US warehouse and a China warehouse.
The dots test is not a good test, in my opinion. Doesn't prove anything. I have a 24 inch Wacom Cintiq and it still can't make quick dots with whatever brush you use.
Well after watching this video and many others I think I am going to keep my Wacom Intuos Art Small
Eres muy subjetivo.
Говоришь так медленно, что я аж всё понял)
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nah man, video of excuses, tablet itself not that good. I had INTUOS PRO from WACOM, and Huion KAMVAS and I can assure you with certainty that this tablet is simply disgusting, you say that you can put up with everything and everything is fine on this tablet, but in the end you just justify the people who paid you money for advertising. Huion Kamvas does not have one of these problems so why should people choose this tablet
Huion is Crap
@@jcdenton6577 xp pen too, best u can get its wacom
@@iskuroi I agree
'video of excuses', tell that to wacom who expects us to buy their 4+ yr old tech with way less features at full price around 2k$. they didnt come out with anything at CES 2021, cintiq 16 non-pro is the most expensive by $100 over other 16 inches and has none of the features that made it worth getting, and they DISCONTINUED the 13 and 16 pro...... no thanks.