Great video, I’ve always been a tamiya owner since a kid with my first car the Tamiya Hornet , seriously upgraded motor and battery and esc , rocking 45mph not bad for two wheel drive and for an older beast
I’d love to hear your thoughts. If you’ve got one of these cars, what do you think of it? Or if there’s another car you think I should look at, let me know! Timestamps: 0:00 Intro* 0:45 Overview*. Unboxing 1:27 LiPo batteries introduction, charging, safety. Recommend purchasing proper LiPo charger 3:12 Using supplied USB LiPo charger 3:33 Build quality, electronics, transmitter overview 4:45 Performance & durability*. Turning controller and car on, first drive 5:16 Cogging issue (hesitancy pulling away). 27 tooth pinion, discussion 6:00 Speed tests off road and on road in stock configuration 6:37 Durability, ground clearance 6:58 Range, battery life with stock batteries 7:16 Testing if electronics waterproof 7:34 Fixing cogging, trying 3s battery*. Demonstrating cogging fixed with 15 tooth pinion 8:08 Removing 27 tooth pinion and replacing with 15 tooth pinion to fix cogging - see quadifyrc.com link above for full details 9:55 Speed tests with 15 tooth pinion (no cogging) 10:05 Trying a 3s battery, design fit modified battery tray 10:20 Speed test with 3s battery and 15 tooth pinion (no cogging) 10:44 Conclusions* *Sections
I got one for Christmas and it seems great, I'll double check if it's the upgraded version or not. The only "issie" I've noticed is there seems to be a delay when braking/reversing to then going forward again.
Great cars for the money , I have 3 , try and get the version 2 of these with the blue steering wheel on the transmitter as it has better range and no cogging .👍
Wow three! I'm quite happy with the 15 tooth pinion - but range is still an issue I'd like to fix. But I do hope to do a follow up review with the V2 model at some point.
After 20 november 2021,Wl delievers the 124017 V2. 4300KV motor. 19 tooth motor gear,no more cogging. Better range transmitter. I have one and it is after greasing the diffs fantastic for that price. 135€ + 1 extra 3600 Mha battery on black friday. If you order be sure you get the V2.
Thanks yes I mention many times in the video that if you get the new version with the 19 tooth pinion you shouldn't get cogging. Glad you're enjoying the car!
I've got the 124016v2 Desert Buggy - all the same except body shell. It's a really fun bashe and I haven't broken anything significantr. Have you had any probs since with running 3S?
Hi Gidon, thanks for another great & well detailed description. Could i ask you what would be the maximum length of battery i could get into the tray "With Modification" ? I haven't yet received the car & am looking at a 136mm in length 2s battery as well as my already existing 108mm 3s units. Thanks for your time. Rusty.
Thank you - glad it helped! You have around 150mm in length available - but width and height are more limited. The driveshaft and top deck get in the way.
@@TheTechnologyMan thanks again. The battery i intend to fit is 136/ 43/ 18mm. Do you think i would get away with the Extra 8mm width? Sorry for all the questions... that is the last one lol.
Why does everyone think that the controller is good? It literally only has one speed, you cannot go slower by pulling the trigger less, it's FULL SPEED as soon as you pull the trigger (well the full speed you have it set to)
It's not bad - not much different to what I got with a Traxxas Maxx that costs over 5 times the price - all the included controllers I've got do feel a bit cheap.
Can I just ask why you didn't use a 19 tooth pinion gear like the version 2? Also I have the v2 and it's brilliant, no cogging or range issues and got 44 mph on dry tarmac with the stock 2s battery . Never had the v1 but I'm told the v2 is MUCH BETTER as you don't need to adjust the gearing,the 19t with the newer 4300 kv motor has plenty of torque and a slightly higher top speed than v1. Especially as you lose a lot of speed by changing the gearing ,yes you solve the cogging and get much better excelleration by changing it but you lose top speed. I recommend the version 2 to anyone wanting to get into rc but I'd definitely stay away from version 1,to many problems which when fixed cause new issues ,like lose of speed,which means you have to spend more cash on a 3s just to get the speed you should be getting out the box
Bonjour! Tout d'abord merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo et vos explications. Changer le moteur pour un 6000kv est ce possible? Et si oui, est ce que cela augmente réellement la puissance? Merci encore pour votre aide. A bientôt Pierre
Hi! It's hard to know exactly without trying it and check cogging, temps etc. You definitely need a smaller pinion with the 27 tooth model at least. If you try it less us know how you get on!
I just bought it and I already have a red blinking light the front wheels turn left and right but the back wheels don't only had the car for about 45 minutes or is just died or something I don't know
The gold motor mount rule is not always correct. I just received one with gold mount, but has the 19t pinion with 4300kv but old style controller. very odd but i shouldnt have an issue.
@@TheTechnologyMan thanks a lot for your reply that's what I was thinking I've only started watching these videos from sat seems an idea 2 batteries and get a 3s I take it 3s is bigger battery
3S is higher voltage so all things equal the car will go faster. But you do need to be careful running it at higher voltage. I've not had any problem running mine off 3S after changing the gearing as I describe in the video.
Thank you! You can reducing the playback speed to 0.75x - TH-cam does a good job on this. And you can enable captions - I have full transcripts for every video. Hope that helps!
@@TheTechnologyMan I think it's easier to just try and return it and buy another one. To try and solder that tiny wire would be tough and to get a brand new esc is crazy too for just buying it
Although I had to replace a few parts here and there, my 10yr old son loves his 144001. He beats the holy crap out of his and it keeps on going! Search amazon for parts. Looking elsewhere will take 3x longer to get.
Great video, I’ve always been a tamiya owner since a kid with my first car the Tamiya Hornet , seriously upgraded motor and battery and esc , rocking 45mph not bad for two wheel drive and for an older beast
Thanks Mart! That's pretty impressive - I used to long for a Tamiya when I was younger!
I’d love to hear your thoughts. If you’ve got one of these cars, what do you think of it? Or if there’s another car you think I should look at, let me know!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro*
0:45 Overview*. Unboxing
1:27 LiPo batteries introduction, charging, safety. Recommend purchasing proper LiPo charger
3:12 Using supplied USB LiPo charger
3:33 Build quality, electronics, transmitter overview
4:45 Performance & durability*. Turning controller and car on, first drive
5:16 Cogging issue (hesitancy pulling away). 27 tooth pinion, discussion
6:00 Speed tests off road and on road in stock configuration
6:37 Durability, ground clearance
6:58 Range, battery life with stock batteries
7:16 Testing if electronics waterproof
7:34 Fixing cogging, trying 3s battery*. Demonstrating cogging fixed with 15 tooth pinion
8:08 Removing 27 tooth pinion and replacing with 15 tooth pinion to fix cogging - see quadifyrc.com link above for full details
9:55 Speed tests with 15 tooth pinion (no cogging)
10:05 Trying a 3s battery, design fit modified battery tray
10:20 Speed test with 3s battery and 15 tooth pinion (no cogging)
10:44 Conclusions*
*Sections
I got one for Christmas and it seems great, I'll double check if it's the upgraded version or not. The only "issie" I've noticed is there seems to be a delay when braking/reversing to then going forward again.
Mine does 57 mph on a 3s 100 c lipo battery
Great cars for the money , I have 3 , try and get the version 2 of these with the blue steering wheel on the transmitter as it has better range and no cogging .👍
Wow three! I'm quite happy with the 15 tooth pinion - but range is still an issue I'd like to fix. But I do hope to do a follow up review with the V2 model at some point.
After 20 november 2021,Wl delievers the 124017 V2.
4300KV motor.
19 tooth motor gear,no more cogging.
Better range transmitter.
I have one and it is after greasing the diffs fantastic for that price.
135€ + 1 extra 3600 Mha battery on black friday.
If you order be sure you get the V2.
Thanks yes I mention many times in the video that if you get the new version with the 19 tooth pinion you shouldn't get cogging. Glad you're enjoying the car!
Check the pinion - should say 19 tooth. I believe all the new models are V2.
Bravo, brilliant video quick and to the important facts! Cheers, Brad
Thank you Bradford Townsend! Glad you liked the video and I appreciate the feedback.
I've got the 124016v2 Desert Buggy - all the same except body shell. It's a really fun bashe and I haven't broken anything significantr. Have you had any probs since with running 3S?
No it's been fine! Have fun with the buggy!
Great review. How long is the battery run time, per charge?
Thanks! I get around 20-30 mins depending on how I drive it and the conditions. I find two batteries usually enough,
Fantastic review 👏
Thank you! 👍
Very good review!
Thank you - very glad you liked it!
Hi Gidon, thanks for another great & well detailed description.
Could i ask you what would be the maximum length of battery i could get into the tray "With Modification" ?
I haven't yet received the car & am looking at a 136mm in length 2s battery as well as my already existing 108mm 3s units.
Thanks for your time.
Rusty.
Thank you - glad it helped! You have around 150mm in length available - but width and height are more limited. The driveshaft and top deck get in the way.
@@TheTechnologyMan thanks again. The battery i intend to fit is 136/ 43/ 18mm. Do you think i would get away with the Extra 8mm width?
Sorry for all the questions... that is the last one lol.
I think that'll be too wide but you might be able to make it fit.
Why does everyone think that the controller is good? It literally only has one speed, you cannot go slower by pulling the trigger less, it's FULL SPEED as soon as you pull the trigger (well the full speed you have it set to)
It's not bad - not much different to what I got with a Traxxas Maxx that costs over 5 times the price - all the included controllers I've got do feel a bit cheap.
@@TheTechnologyMan hmm maybe mines faulty then
Can I just ask why you didn't use a 19 tooth pinion gear like the version 2?
Also I have the v2 and it's brilliant, no cogging or range issues and got 44 mph on dry tarmac with the stock 2s battery .
Never had the v1 but I'm told the v2 is MUCH BETTER as you don't need to adjust the gearing,the 19t with the newer 4300 kv motor has plenty of torque and a slightly higher top speed than v1. Especially as you lose a lot of speed by changing the gearing ,yes you solve the cogging and get much better excelleration by changing it but you lose top speed.
I recommend the version 2 to anyone wanting to get into rc but I'd definitely stay away from version 1,to many problems which when fixed cause new issues ,like lose of speed,which means you have to spend more cash on a 3s just to get the speed you should be getting out the box
Glad you got hold of the V2 model! I prefer having the extra torque of the 15 tooth - since I drive it mainly on moorland in longer grass.
@@TheTechnologyMan ok mate ,that makes sense, I was just being nosey lol
Good luck with the channel 👍
Bonjour! Tout d'abord merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo et vos explications.
Changer le moteur pour un 6000kv est ce possible? Et si oui, est ce que cela augmente réellement la puissance?
Merci encore pour votre aide.
A bientôt
Pierre
Hi! It's hard to know exactly without trying it and check cogging, temps etc. You definitely need a smaller pinion with the 27 tooth model at least. If you try it less us know how you get on!
I just bought it and I already have a red blinking light the front wheels turn left and right but the back wheels don't only had the car for about 45 minutes or is just died or something I don't know
Have you checked the connections to the ESC haven't become detached?
Do you have the STL file, for the battery tray expansion, available anywhere?
Hi I've just uploaded it: www.printables.com/model/200544-wltoys-124017-battery-tray-end
The gold motor mount rule is not always correct. I just received one with gold mount, but has the 19t pinion with 4300kv but old style controller. very odd but i shouldnt have an issue.
Good luck - yes I did this video a while ago so no doubt things will have changed.
Wanna get into RC like this but how many batteries do u suggest to buy this with 3 or one and buy batteries elsewhere ?
I got the version with 3 batteries but honestly 2 is usually plenty for me at least. And you might want to try a 3S in the car at some point ;).
@@TheTechnologyMan thanks a lot for your reply that's what I was thinking I've only started watching these videos from sat seems an idea 2 batteries and get a 3s I take it 3s is bigger battery
3S is higher voltage so all things equal the car will go faster. But you do need to be careful running it at higher voltage. I've not had any problem running mine off 3S after changing the gearing as I describe in the video.
@@TheTechnologyMan thanks does higher battery mah run car longer
Yes higher mAh will equate to longer run time.
Great video!
Thank you very much!
Thanks - glad you liked the video!
Thanks for sharing👍👍👍👍
No problem!
I think you put the link for the car twice instead of the hota
Thank you well spotted! I can't now see the Hota D6+ on Banggood but when it's back on I'll update the link! The Amazon links below should be working.
Mahalo even if your accent is strong we Hawaiians appreciate your knowledge. Aloha
Thank you! You can reducing the playback speed to 0.75x - TH-cam does a good job on this. And you can enable captions - I have full transcripts for every video. Hope that helps!
If you turn on the car before the controller you fry one of the esc wires and have to replace that
Thanks for the tip!
@@TheTechnologyMan yeah I mean was that in the instructions about how to turn it on I didn't notice it?
@@TheTechnologyMan I think it's easier to just try and return it and buy another one. To try and solder that tiny wire would be tough and to get a brand new esc is crazy too for just buying it
@@TheTechnologyMan I seriously don't see how that can happen
Although I had to replace a few parts here and there, my 10yr old son loves his 144001. He beats the holy crap out of his and it keeps on going! Search amazon for parts. Looking elsewhere will take 3x longer to get.
That's great! Yes quicker if you can get parts off Amazon.
Thx for Your vidéo, i'm waiting my commande for the news bonjour ggy 124017! In blue Color ! 🔥🔥🙂🙏👍
I hope you enjoy it when it arrived!
Still prefer the 16889/16890 brushless from Hbx
I've not tried that one - might have to get one!
Mine does 57 mph 100 c lipo battery version 2
Nice!
It will go faster than that found out my right rear wheel was a little over tighten slowing it down a bit@@TheTechnologyMan