Familiar sight for this California boy. I've seen trains stall on Cajon Pass more than once. One time as I was watching and photographing a train struggling to a stop, the hogshead leaned out the window and yelled "Can you give us a push?"
I've drove trains for 27 years...And I'm just speechless. I wish I could give you those two clapped out D-944cw's that just sit in the yard just to make the pain go away. Great video!! you filmed this well.
The president (Ed Burkhardt) of the company that owned the WC, also owned the ATN in Australia and ordered the popular maroon scheme to be used on these Australian locomotives. One of my all time favorite paint schemes!
Closing my eyes, I can imagine the sounds of the motive power belonging to the Rio Grand, and the units dragging a Coal Train through the Rocky Mountains... Best video I have seen in a VERY long time, cudos!
I live along WC's now CN's mainline in Michigans upper peninsula, I knew they had foreign assets but I didnt know they had them repainted! Sweet video!
We were already making switch engines by the time the F's came out for that and when it came to road switching service we had the RS-1 in 1941 only a couple years after the F's. So the reason we didn't try a double ended F unit was because we didn't see a need for one with the advent of the road switcher locomotive. As for the the WC, most foreign assets were sold off not too long after the merger with Canadian National.
You know, I never made the connection before! ATN( Australian Transportation Network) was owned by Wisconsin Central from 1997 until 2004, when it was taken over by Pacific National. Some of these locos are ex-New Zealand EMD's.
Hello friend, the locomotives you mentioned have the EMD 645 engine built under licence here in Australia by Clyde Engineering. The power rating is 2240 kW or roughly 3000hp. Hope this helps you, jager..Cheers (happy railroading)
That bend is about 1 kilometre up the bank which is around 1:40. Telephoto lens also makes train appear slower. Normal speed there is about 30km/h dropping to about 20 through the station, after a speed of about 80 at the bottom of the bank. Possibly a trailing unit didn't power up at the bottom, and may have come good when he stopped, shut off and the contactors reset.
@lloydbolier Yeah, big time! Im a track guy in the UK, It causes some pretty good 'digs' in the rail normaly resulting in a 5 hour arc weld repair or a rail change. Ive got some good pics of that sort of damage!
No need for the rail grinder to ckme thru afger thag one lol THat lead unjt looked and sounded lkke lne of ljr GP338's in the States. I've been very impressed with what I've seen in videos ojt of Australia. I
lol, imagine all the people who werent expecting a full loaded grain train to stop at the station and the others who were getting off on the other side of the platform ( which was out of shot) !!!
Nice video! My guess is the B74 slipped its wheels because its lighter than the L type locos. Also I'll bet the traction motors took a beating trying to get this train moving again.
@upheritage6 .It is an ex-Western Australian Railways L class loco, built by Clyde Engineering in 1967. Looks like an Aussie version of an SD45. Someone is obviously a fan of Wisconsin Central, it looks very similar, don't you think?
Kuddos to the B74 (it did all the hard work and was the real backbone) ,still it did look kinda out of place or did it?....Still a great video....EPIC!
Time to lay down some sand. Looks like he had some serious wheel slip at about 2:30 with all those sparks flying. Hey, what does a green over green signal indication mean? There is no such thing in the US to my knowledge--there is red over green (diverging clear) or green over red (clear) or sometimes yellow over green (advance diverging). In the US the top signal refers to the track presently occupied and the bottom signal refers to the diverging track (turnout). Never seen double green.
It indicates full clear. Basically the top light is the signal you are at and the bottom light is indicative of the next signal. Top green is always a proceed indication whereas a bottom yellow indicates "next signal at caution", bottom red indicates "next signal at stop", top and bottom red is stop. If a train is to be stopped at a signal, the signals it passes will be green over green, green over yellow, green over red, red over red. It allows for closer signal spacings in high traffic areas.
LOL at 1:25 all I can think of is Princess Leia asking, "would it help if I got out and pushed?" to a clearly irritated Han Solo or train drivers in this case.
One thing I dont understand i why you guys do or make trains super huge, I mean long!!!!!!!!!! You aint american plus next time the should include some locos in the mid section on the train and at the rear, and you wont see wheel slip or nothing! Think about it.
Familiar sight for this California boy. I've seen trains stall on Cajon Pass more than once. One time as I was watching and photographing a train struggling to a stop, the hogshead leaned out the window and yelled "Can you give us a push?"
I've drove trains for 27 years...And I'm just speechless. I wish I could give you those two clapped out D-944cw's that just sit in the yard just to make the pain go away. Great video!! you filmed this well.
B class doing all the work for sure!
The president (Ed Burkhardt) of the company that owned the WC, also owned the ATN in Australia and ordered the popular maroon scheme to be used on these Australian locomotives. One of my all time favorite paint schemes!
The paint scheme on those L units looks a lot like Wisconsin Central
WOW! at 2:16 that is the coolest thing I think I've ever seen a locomotive do!!! A burnout on the rails!!! Awesome video and love that EMD sound!!!
Closing my eyes, I can imagine the sounds of the motive power belonging to the Rio Grand, and the units dragging a Coal Train through the Rocky Mountains...
Best video I have seen in a VERY long time, cudos!
That unit passing by, ugh! One of the most rancid-looking trains ever. Great action from these old diesels
Paint scheme on the L251, L265 and L270 looks like Wisconsin Central's paint scheme.
They are from WA. These days locos from all around Australia can be found in states far from where they originally ran.
should have put the "B" on the front , no problem then
Yes, they are very close to a SD40, they are apart of the EMD GT26 Series and have a turbocharged 645 EMD engine, they are rated at 3000 hp
I live along WC's now CN's mainline in Michigans upper peninsula, I knew they had foreign assets but I didnt know they had them repainted! Sweet video!
I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN I KNOW I CAN, it's the little train that could
Phenomenal video!! What a struggle!!!! Great filming
ATN was partially owned by Wisconsin Central.
That's fantastic. It seems that the load is a little to heavy.
I'd have given my skanky back teeth to have been on that. I love the bit where they're chewin the rails.
Awesome! Love the emds!
A heroic effort. Nice vid.
We were already making switch engines by the time the F's came out for that and when it came to road switching service we had the RS-1 in 1941 only a couple years after the F's. So the reason we didn't try a double ended F unit was because we didn't see a need for one with the advent of the road switcher locomotive. As for the the WC, most foreign assets were sold off not too long after the merger with Canadian National.
Wow, great stuff. I close my eyes and it sounds just like home.
You know, I never made the connection before! ATN( Australian Transportation Network) was owned by Wisconsin Central from 1997 until 2004, when it was taken over by Pacific National. Some of these locos are ex-New Zealand EMD's.
Awesome stuff! I love oz railroading!!!!
Hello friend, the locomotives you mentioned have the EMD 645 engine built under licence here in Australia by Clyde Engineering. The power rating is 2240 kW or roughly 3000hp. Hope this helps you, jager..Cheers (happy railroading)
Funny that they imitated WC's paint job and that E8 has cabs on both ends!
nice catch! :)
Top stuff, Looks like almost enough video for an "Epic Struggles" DVD :)
Reminds of the WC SD45s! Nice video!
That bend is about 1 kilometre up the bank which is around 1:40. Telephoto lens also makes train appear slower. Normal speed there is about 30km/h dropping to about 20 through the station, after a speed of about 80 at the bottom of the bank. Possibly a trailing unit didn't power up at the bottom, and may have come good when he stopped, shut off and the contactors reset.
1:50 the second unit bucking, priceless!!!!
Superb film thanks!! The guy on the bench put his fingers in his ears, ha ha!
The company that owned the engines was owned by Wisconsin Central Transportation
sounds like one of the engines is not powering
2 engine looks like the old SF freight scheme a bit and awsum sound on these :)
nice video, but why the emd spartan cab units, had ge cabs, and similar ge fuel tanks? are modified?, thanks
Anybody notice the sand filler cap on the lead loco spinning? Must have been from the vibration. It stopped when he backed off on the power.
@lloydbolier Yeah, big time! Im a track guy in the UK, It causes some pretty good 'digs' in the rail normaly resulting in a 5 hour arc weld repair or a rail change. Ive got some good pics of that sort of damage!
Don't forget Wisconsin Central
Beautiful locomotives. Great sound. I see the first locomotive sparks from underneath it seems to me no good.
Looks like they should have put a couple of helpers coming up the hill.
No need for the rail grinder to ckme thru afger thag one lol THat lead unjt looked and sounded lkke lne of ljr GP338's in the States. I've been very impressed with what I've seen in videos ojt of Australia. I
Excellent video, thanks very much! Was the L class similar to the C in any way?
it's related to the sd40 but it is the emd GT26CW that is sold internationally. same EMD 645 engine though.
@nickeax Very similar in alot of aspects. Mainly cab layout was different.
nice video, thats australia? awesome
Awesome what are those ALCO's
Very cool, liked it
2:20 WE GOT SPARKS!!
@stevie65able yeah. i live in denver colorado usa i don't know much about that country it will be intersting to learn about though :)
Sydney metropolitan area, New South Wales, Australia
" Staggered " Home Signal interesting = " Auto " in Victoria
what kind of locomotive is at the front?
Como is on the South Coast line out of Sydney.
That's at Jannali Station isn't it?
Cool. Weird number board placement though.
lol, imagine all the people who werent expecting a full loaded grain train to stop at the station and the others who were getting off on the other side of the platform ( which was out of shot) !!!
How long have they been fitting heat pump/air conditioner to their locos
@LordGeorgeRodney LOL! I'd have to agree with that statement!
Nice video! My guess is the B74 slipped its wheels because its lighter than the L type locos. Also I'll bet the traction motors took a beating trying to get this train moving again.
@upheritage6 .It is an ex-Western Australian Railways L class loco, built by Clyde Engineering in 1967. Looks like an Aussie version of an SD45. Someone is obviously a fan of Wisconsin Central, it looks very similar, don't you think?
what were the sparks
Kuddos to the B74 (it did all the hard work and was the real backbone) ,still it did look kinda out of place or did it?....Still a great video....EPIC!
Pour on the power.
Where is this?
Nice angle at 5:30.
whats with the old B74 i thought they were retired years ago
They seemed to be going well until entering the platform then started slipping - I wonder why?
@lloydbolier Yes it would luckly there wasn't any dry scrub otherwise the spinning would have started a fire
at first i thought this was wisconsin central but i was like DUDE WTF WHY DIES WC HAVE THIS LOCO ALLIGNMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE
You do realise this is in New South Wales, AUSTRALIA
Got helpers?
Whats the total HP of those four locos and tonnage of the whole train? any ideas would be great
3x 3300hp (EMD 16-645) and 1x 1500hp (EMD 16-567).
Good grief! Obviously too much train being handed out down dar!
CityRail has banned locomotive companies that use unreliable out of date locos.
Currently, TWO or three class 81s used.
Erie paint!
Time to double the hill......
@LoganisTrainBoy1 This isn'nt America this is Australia. But they do make an awsome sound :)
Time to lay down some sand. Looks like he had some serious wheel slip at about 2:30 with all those sparks flying.
Hey, what does a green over green signal indication mean? There is no such thing in the US to my knowledge--there is red over green (diverging clear) or green over red (clear) or sometimes yellow over green (advance diverging). In the US the top signal refers to the track presently occupied and the bottom signal refers to the diverging track (turnout). Never seen double green.
It indicates full clear. Basically the top light is the signal you are at and the bottom light is indicative of the next signal. Top green is always a proceed indication whereas a bottom yellow indicates "next signal at caution", bottom red indicates "next signal at stop", top and bottom red is stop. If a train is to be stopped at a signal, the signals it passes will be green over green, green over yellow, green over red, red over red. It allows for closer signal spacings in high traffic areas.
The engineer came in too slow around that bend,you have to bring her faster around the bend to keep momenton.
@speedemon81 Tangaras are foul things
Wait, what the heck is that F-unit looking thing?
Why didnt you show the WHOLE TRAIN to see what it was up against?
More like the Erie RR.
NOTE THE SAND PORING ON RAILS TO GRIP AND KEEP FROM SLIP ING
This is definately not filmed in West Oz,not sure about the loco's origin though,
Can someone tell where abouts in our wonderful World this is? Thank You
LOL at 1:25 all I can think of is Princess Leia asking, "would it help if I got out and pushed?" to a clearly irritated Han Solo or train drivers in this case.
does not have a helper on the end of train?
i think i can
uhmmm ok. thank you Sir!
It is an auto, not a home.
Think again! ;)
impromptu railgrinder! That couldn't be any good for locos or track.
needs traction control, silly train people
stalled
at 2.52 passing by.. that is the gayest looking train I have ever seen!!
makes me want to throw up..
Great video though!
One thing I dont understand i why you guys do or make trains super huge, I mean long!!!!!!!!!! You aint american plus next time the should include some locos in the mid section on the train and at the rear, and you wont see wheel slip or nothing! Think about it.