Great Exercises To Build Shoulders Without Pressing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2021
- In this QUAH Sal, Adam, & Justin answer the question “Are there any good exercises for your shoulders besides pressing motions?"
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This was one of your best videos, largely because of cutting away to all the other clips
John Meadows covered this very well with a superset style approach. First set, heavy Lateral raises with 50% range of motion for 20 reps (30 lbs~ go half way up). Followed immediately by regular Lateral raises with 10-15 lbs full range of motion 20 reps too. Do that 4x and you will have a solid pump. I've seen more results from this in the last 6 months alone compared to all the heavy pressing I used to do in the last several years.
RIP John
Cables will always be superior to dumbells.
@@robjose5669 agreed
How often did you trained shoulders?
@@deriusjones3024 about 3x a week. For example I'd have 1 solid shoulder day with some moderately heavy pressing and the other 2 days I'd do the Lateral raises workout I originally posted about as a secondary muscle group. On those days the focus would be the pump and not strength. It's less taxing on the nervous system and easy on the joints due to the light weight.
Love the emphasis on working the rear delt. That’s really the final piece to having rounded shoulders. It also helps with posture which makes you’re chest look bigger.
Wide grip upright rows done with a slight lean forward and pulling the bar only as high as the lower chest does a great job hitting the side delts and eliminates basically all the risk often associated with standard upright rows.
I really like the video clip examples and the newer setup. Very cool!
so much gold in this episode..
Great video as usual. Thanks
I just started doing alternating sets with high pulls and presses. Seems to be working well.
Thanks for this. I’ve been having physio for my shoulders and found shoulder presses bring back all the old problems, so I’ve been looking for alternatives.
What shoulder issue? I'm in the same boat
This is what I needed. I got my shoulders stronger with cables but they don't have the 3d pop, they have this front dominant look like the guy saying he had weak shoulders. I guess I gotta attack it from behind and make them pop!
This helps alot
It's true. The day i started doing one arm rear delt raise using heavy weight, my shoulders were on other levels.
Friends can you please pass me suspension W video link, love you guys work, u da best!
warm up with face pulls then snatch grip high pulls for triples
Hands down safest way to build shoulders without pressing is neutral grip front raises, light side raises and rear delt raises/flies. If you do the upright row do them with the rope handle holding the rope with each hand like you would a coffee mug handle lifting to collarbone height leaning forward slightly. Rope can be attached to a cable, kettlebell, dumbbell or plates.
Amazing chat brothers!
cable upright row superset with dumbbell lateral raises
1:14 Damnnn his physique is crazy.
What about exercises for the rotator cuff?
Loving the Frederick Douglass shirt
The guy is right. The rear delt is key!!
Ok, so upright rows are not damaging to your shoulders?
Because I'm hearing from many bodybuilders that it is, I'd like to be 100% sure about this.
Lol don’t do it if you do not have the mobility. As good as that exercise is… I have impinged my shoulders like 3-4 times every time I do an upright row. Now I avoid it at all costs.
I torn my shoulders up with upright rows when I first began lifting years ago. Shoulders have never been the same. Light seated dumbell presses are all I can do at this point.
I never recommend it, but if you really want to try it go for it. I get instant pain doing them even with light weight, thats my sign to not do them..
If you lack to mobility, they can cause problems. A lot of bodybuilders lack mobility, and they think the solution is to not do those exercises, but the solution is to obtain more mobility so the exercise doesn’t bother you.
If you have bad shoulder mobility, and you perform it incorrectly it can be damaging. That and doing heavy upright rows, it's definitely not a exercise to go heavy on
As soon as he started talking about rear dealts my antennas when all the way up. Really don’t like pal my shoulders feel cat except when I turn to the side. Lol let’s go!!
Can you a do a building legs without squats, I have back problems from concreting and squats are just to much for my lower back
I have lower back issues as well and squats are hard because of it. I find the key is isolation exercises on machines that focus on your legs and/or upper back, then lightly training my lower separately. I'll then engage squats when I feel ready.
I don't squat but for other reasons, lunges have worked really well for me. You can try leg press or hack squats also if possible.
front squats!
Trap bar deadlift? Step ups?
I feel like most ppl diagnose themselves with shoulder issues, and skip overhead stuff because it's too hard. They would rather do their 20-rep lateral raises than 4x10 overhead press. I've had multiple clients overhead press their BW after rotator cuff surgery. If you want big shoulders, you gotta fricking press overhead. It's like trying to get big legs but you don't wanna squat.
it's not just about "big" shoulders. most people want that athletic broad deltoid look that alot of pro athletes have. in order to get that you have to do high volume side and rear delt work
@@irishscience580 You missed the entire point of my comment. And unless we’re talking about bodybuilding, pro athletes aren’t doing much high rep shoulder work. They’re doing overhead press & pulling variations.
Hahaha he finally got them to say it
How do I work around a partially torn rotator cuff? Help please
Bands
Allow you to control the range of motion and the angle of your movement
Try exercises that dont bother that injured shoulder. But if they do hurt your shoulder i’d say you would have to take a few months off completely to let it heal. Take it from my experience. I fully tore my infraspinatus in my left shoulder and the only thing that healed it was taking 8 months off completely. Never got surgery for it cause i couldnt afford it. But definitely get checked out and think about surgery.
Go to physiotherapy dont waste time like me
Im.kinda new to this channel so any help would be great. Ive been training at home for about a yesr lost 18 kgs build some muscle. Been on the gym for 2 months and my shoulders are hurting really bad even at home with some common movements i feel something weird it started with barbell bench press. I didnt feel this way with dumbells but now is starting with them too. Can i build a nice chest with cables and fly machines? And yeah ive seen every technique video out there for bench press. I dont want to get injuried
First thing you have to do is avoid using your shoulders untill the inflammation is gone, that's why it hurts, the shoulders never got to rest properly. Of course you can use cables to build the chest but the problem is cables will offer a resistance you will have to break so the front delts will engage to do it and it will continue to hurt. If your shoulders are always in pain you will have to stop using them at least for a whole month because they wore off.
@@martingimenez339 honestly dont feel pain when i do cables or machine flys. But thanks for the adive man!
mollejo it all depends on the weight of course, when tendons begin to stretch it's unavoidable.
Yeah man it’s time to rest up. Keep the ego down and rest up. It sucks but it’s better to prevent long term worse injuries. What you can do is concentrate on building your core and lower body, also even add running to your health goal.
@@ssjhank3013 thanks for the reply and advice man. Yeah i will stay away from bench pressing either barbell or dumbell will keep doing cables or peck deck i feel 100% fine on them and i even feel more activation.
Pushups consistently will get your shoulders right
Maybe to you, not for me
push ups are more front delt
@@proudmisfit4405 agree but its a great start if you dont have a gym or consistent going to gym
THE TES MADE YOUR SHOULDERS BIG
03:55 What movement is he talking about?
Been doing upright rows and behind the neck presses for 30 years. Upright rows close , mid and wider grip , standing straight up bent over , or leaning on incline bench. all depends on where your trying to hit. My mobility is great! Snowflakes are everywhere. Awesome content as always fellas. Love the channel
Everyone listen to Gilbert if your mobility is bad then you're a snowflake
6:22 "Baby"
Upright rows..do them if you want broken shoulders 🤢
Pressing, face pulls and rear delt work is all you need
@Micah I agree, a lot of people will let their ego hurt them with upright rows however.
Yes face pulls are for rear delts but also rotator cuff etc. You should also isolate rear delts.
@Micah but is that optimal? Id have to argue its not
@@joshuas184 facepulls are not optimal for rear delts anyways as rotator cuffs give out first. And if you do them differently without rotating then you are just training rear delts in not optimal position.
@@joojotin i never said just doing face pulls is optimal? I literally said it isnt.
@@joshuas184 oh damn, I thought thats what you meant my bad
Upright rows would be on top of my list of worst exercises ever. It destroys my traps and shoulders in a bad way
Are we just going to ignore the fact one of the guys demonstrating the exercises in this video has the perfect body? Who is he? Lol
Lateral raises are better
Is Justin the only natty one in the group now?
Which ones who lol
Probably, but he’s big asf too lol. They posted Justin’s workout the others day was some good shit
@@danieldickson5872 Justin's Huge bro!!!!
@@danieldickson5872 yeah fair enough, I guess lack of bicep vein gives a higher bf% illusion idk
How to build 3D popping biceps??
hammer curls
Juice
boy oh boy my rear delt insertions are so fucked. It's so rare that no one would be able to imagine how trash a bad rear delt insertion looks like xD
Upright rows Is the worst exercise 4 the shoulders
Na your existence is
*watches athleanx once
Planches
shrug it out.
Yo wtf Adam looked like that?
Dude what?! That bloke is unrecognisable of him on stage compared to him with a beard sitting on a couch. That's fucking whack dude, he was in tremendous shape! I always wondered what these dudes looked like in their prime conditioning stage.
He's still in good shape, he's just not walking around shirtless with unnecessary mass all the time. That's smart too. What's the point of carrying unnecessary mass with low body fat percentage if you aren't competing.
He'll probably live longer & enjoy his life not needing to stuff his face constantly at a more balanced size like this.
I need steroids.
Upright rows and high pulls are terrible