I'd feel better if I was the only one. I don't need other people to feel bad too make me feel better. I feel better knowing that sadness and pain are temporary. That bliss is the default. And that others have it makes me happy because it means we all have it.
@@lgroves336Isn't that just escaping suffering? Change your perception, use NLP to change your brain to make it happy blah blah blah. We suffer because the system we live in is sick. It's a sick society. Look at the drugs, porn, hate, slavery, unfairness, greed, deception, mockery of the public, trafficking, the prisons we are being herded into etc. You want to change your perception and say this is all good? Don't worry be happy? Nah not me. Face life as it is.
@@lgroves336 That's why realizing others suffer too helps my perception shift. It's not that I want others to suffer too, but it helps me realize we are all one therefore everyone's suffering is also mine. It removes self-pity and takes the focus off my petty little self.❤
@evonyshaky65, If thought just happens, why do we experience ourselves as thinkers? Surely, thought cannot be understood without understanding what the thinker is and where he/she rises from. Is it not?
Sorry, friend, thought may be a habit, but it doesn't have to happen. Breathing has to happen. Further, thinking is an act of memory. So, by definition, thinking takes us out of the present moment (diminishing our awareness) and distorts perception.
I used to get stunned by thinking the same thing that the people I see feel the same thing as me. As I feel the 'I' so do they. Whatever living beings that exist feels the same thing. It's our duty not to let them become evil because if we let them so, we'll have to punish them and in this way the 'I' will feel pain. As it's not the 'I' which does something but the nature/ system. So we must take care of our society such that nobody becomes evil.
When I suffer in isolation the pain is intolerable, but when I know the world is suffering with me and in the same way, that realization brings about mitigation of that suffering. And in this video, K elaborates on that principle. It's an incredible realization! ❤
Instant remedy from years of depression, anxiety and self pity or hatred. But you should already be ready or deserving to receive and imbibe this wisdom in the proper way. The master shows the path but it's we who walk it.
Suffering is a distorted interpretation and victimization of the ego-mind. Because every single thought is not even yours, every single belief is not yours. It's only a suggestion from the Collective Mental Field of Consciousness. It doesn't means that you have to accept it, you don't have to resonate with that thoughts and beliefs. It's the activity of the movements of the mind-ego to grasp onto the experience of suffering and pain. You can liberate yourself from those thoughts and beliefs.
Your real nature is Silent Awareness. But the ego-mind took over the control of life and storyline of the sim character making a drama and reaffirming its apparent identity as the sim character. The ego is only a mental energy that believes it is a body. Stop believing what the 3D lower egoic mind tells you, it's an illusion, you don't have to accept any belief, any thought. Observe the movements of this mind that isn't yours, and guide the mind into yourself, into the Spiritual Heart.
Those true words hit so deep! This great man is the definition of wisdom. Literally opens up my mind every time I hear him talk. Blessed he came across my path 💫 One Love ♥️
What a vibrant up-to-date message !! Soooo _alive_ & the Question he poses at the end of this video, it goes just to the point. *Humanity* - & then every _single_ one of us as a representative of this Humanity - we haven't solved yet that relevant Question !! J.K. was not just merely a philosopher or a visionary but a true _Mistic_ . Thank You for sharing his wisdom 🙏 ✨✨✨
Its like hearing my self in some one else's mouth,Thank you Krishna murti 🙏🙏🙏 it amazes me when this happens and too see the great results off my hard inner work🧘♂️🧘♂️im so happy 😊😊😊
I can share this which is the following: Imagine a wave of the sea and the sea they are not different, they are the same, it is water, so changing the wave for conscious people and the sea for consciousness shows that everything is consciousness and the consciousness is not real but illusory because consciousness and the envelope of the Consciousness, which is the body, is changing, it suffers both physical and psychological alterations and then die, same for consciousness, like the example of the sea wave and the sea speaking of non-duality. The wave appears and disappears, where is it? obviously in the sea, that is the same as saying a person is born, dies and returns to his state which is pure consciousness. People are vehicles of consciousness, which is consciousness itself, not separated. In order to be able to see itself, consciousness manifests itself in appearances, otherwise it would be in a state of non-appearance, it could not be seen, something like the following could be said: There is a person who is concious in a totally dark room but he does not see anything because of the darkness so he creates the appearances you and I, the universe and all the rest of the visible objects and things to be able to see and manifest. Consciousness is creating mirages of itself in order to see itself. What truly remains unchanged and absolute is... But first the question: Who am I, the manifested consciousness or the unmanifested and unalterable absolute? - Silence, without the word silence. The contradictions are creade by duality the opposite of non duality, so that's why there is so much confusion and contradictions
While this presentation is excellent, I am intrigued by one statement of JK around 6:43 into the presentation. Having rightly stated that an individual(man) is illusory, why is JK making the statement that: "MAN has CREATED, the society of greed, envy and hatred, brutality, violence, wars, extraordinary world of technology". Question arises: how can an illusory figure create anything at all? I would submit that hatred, brutality, violence, wars, technology all emerge (so to speak) from that eternal source of Consciousness from which the name and form of Man also emerges (so to speak). Consciousness is the source and substance of all that appears. All the "ills" and "technology" pointed out by JK, are relative phenomena holding relative reality, appearing and disappearing in consciousness (in a state of apparent duality) and not in/from an individual. But I do recognize that I could have misinterpreted his position in this short snippet which obviously is not giving the totality of his presentation and if if so I offer my apologies.
I've worked with many people from India. Very nice people. I've always wondered how smart they must be to learn English and for this man to speak so well is quite inspiring. Speaks better than me.
@@billtomson5791what’s interesting is the real reason for this is most middle eastern standard writing is written right to left rather then left to right so speech patterns also differ. I’ grew up bi-lingual as I moved to the US from the middle east and I can tell you and this isn’t to say one language or one way is superior but the way words and thoughts are put together differ because of this. Look into what the left hemisphere of your brain does and your right. Being left or right handed also effects this.
Helps to have a wider perspective on life. 'We must question what is told in Scriptures, all the answers are found there itself'. Unless question, we can't grow in any faith... neither spiritually...! Religion is a stepping stone towards spirituality, if taken with wisdom... and not with intellect.
Exactly. As simple as that. Consciousness is not just another attribute of a separate individual, but the "me" emerges in consciousness. From that separative absurdity, all that can be expected is an absurd and contradictory life. Therefore, we are not to organize a "new conscious society," to look for something like that out there, for that is exactly what we are talking about. It is now. Without any template, without any reference. Life is an eternally generative void, but looking for it, being misplaced individuals, that void never seems to operate (although it is always doing so, but the generated is placated by calling it "my memories, my partner, my desire, etc."). There is no "my"...😒
Krishnamurti lays out the argument that there is no free will. We're all products of our society, families, and the trauma involved in all of that. Our trauma-bound past is what dictates our behaviors. Not this silly thing that people think they have called "free will."
Mas deixarmos de ser o que somos, isto é, condicionados pelo passado, simplesmente acontece ou depende de que tenhamos a consciência deste fato e, como JK propõe, prestemos total atenção a ele? --- Isto não implica num ato de vontade?
There is security in individualism. Often people with private agenda always betray you. Betrayal causes pain. Pain causes anxiety and desperation. All that leads to further isolation by the individual. A Hero must remain anonymous for him to be able to any good for the week and defense-less. Prepare. Sacrifice. Endure.
The great scientists welcomed this and sought to understand. It was utterly life changing for some of them, and brought a lot of goodness to their lives and the lives of those around them. How much is owed to this man?
At some point in my life I have realized that I am not my emotions, then I realized that I am not my thoughts, then I realized that I am not my body.. All what remained was Consciousness.. But what if I wasn’t Consciousness neither, it’s just that I haven’t realized that yet! That’s what I’m gonna figure out in the next trip🤣
You cannot deny your own existence/consciousness!!!. If you deny, the "denier" will be YOU as the PRINCIPLE OF EXISTENCE/CONSCIOUSNESS. Try as you may, you will never be able shake off that principle. You will never be able to deny it nor will you even be able to imagine/conceive its absence. The other name for that principle of Existence/Consciousness is "I".
death denies existence/consciousness easily. And deep dreaming state has no sense of existence or consciousness. "I am" knowledge is appearance of existence experience. Iam appears and vanish every day. So, you are always who observe and notice appearing and disappearing of existence and consciousness and that why consciousness is not I . Unexistence is source of all matter and experience.@@ravindramurthy3486
Very wise words (not from J.K.) ... "Human being does, indeed, have a body, but he himself/herself is not the body". WHO the human being IS, then? What about his consciousness? Is it only personal, or UNIVERSAL? Could it be that BOTH descriptions would apply? Questions, questions .... and more questions. Playing with WORDS is not enough to know what is TRUE. One has to REALLY want to know and ... go for it. Answers are WITHIN... but most people are too LAZY to look there.
we all may be having the same conversation simultaneously word for word in this greatest of illusions called life. Frozen in indecision wondering if we have ever really had any liberty to be in silence, space, and stillness.
All Living Beings, is Eternal Living Life-Units, they all have their very own Eternal Consciousness. There is Only the Same Eternal Life, We all refer to the Same 'I', which cant be seen, Only Known.
It is done in One. Commonsense has become so common! Compassion requires that the 0.5% of Anarchists, Terrorists, Fundamentalists, disruptive threats be kept in check in a prudent, preventive, proactive manner. That is commonsense too!
your consciousness is a product at least is a frequency of energy in which it traduces in your acts, thoughts, and emotions. is a field of energy condensed into different singularities, a chain of events that took place in the past and that will affect our future.
@@kartikeyasharma6258 Thinking is not power of brain/body, it is power of Spirit, and Spirit is same in all. So individual is not one who thinks, he just have thoughts that he is thinking.
@Kfoundation Has JK ever spoken, elaborated about his motivation behind referring himself as the speaker. I am pondering this. Any excerpt you can release on this would be beneficial for us 🙏🏽
Excellent point! The (sometimes) subtle differences are the joy of this uni-verse. Our consciousness is nothing alike, as it is defined by the thoughts, feelings and wills (actions) we 'CHOOSE to harbor' in every moment. But yes, could have started from the same origin :)hehe
@@sydney456consciousness is defined by awareness, not the content of awareness, and the content of awareness may be perceived uniquely but it’s not unique. There are no individuals.
Very few people understood/understand Krishnamurti. That was the game the Theosophical Society played with him and with all of us. This information was ultimately more destructive than constructive to our collective consciousness: It bred more confusion, anger, envy, and frustration among humans. This information was meant for those ready to receive it. This is why the GATEkeepers allowed him an audience rather than trying to destroy him. It was a mockery, sadly.
Thoughtless action, does not allow examination. To examine, forces the observer to act, examing their own thoughts and action. Which stops action without reward.
I dare to disagree -- my consciousness is eternal, inviolate and individual. That it shares a level with the universal consciousness does not in any way remove its individuality. Consciousness expresses and experiences itself in every possible manifestation, each experiencing its own individual eternity.
Them ppl are part of a simulated reality, and as long as you're part of that dimension, this information won't matter to them because they can't see past the simulacrum.
Individuals don't exist only Individualized activity. Just the same as so called "enlightenment". There are no enlightened beings per se, only enlightened activity. There. Now the you that isn't there is free.
The fact that the 'thoughts' are not owned by an individual, and Thinking is a Spiritual activity in itself, does not justify his conclusion that 'Your Consciousness is not yours'. Neither does the fact that all human beings go through similar problems, within the same World. Very superficial argumentation. J. Krishnamurti can repeat his 'Your Consciousness is not yours' mantra as many times as he wishes - repetition does not make it True.
I think what he’s saying is that the universal consciousness, which we all are apart of is one. Artists know this fact to be true, that there is no separation; our ego’s want us to think, feel and believe that we are separate. Prince once said in an interview that he had some great ideas for a couple of songs in the middle of the night. He called his band in the middle of the night and told them to meet him in the studio. He explained to them that if he didn’t get the songs recorded, that Michael Jackson or some other musician would get those songs. He understood that everything is one. The double slit and other hard scientific experiments have also proved that there is no separation, and in fact that time and space doesn’t exist. Twins, family members and good friends have been known to know when something bad happened to someone half a world. This has been proven with some insects as well. Even from a physical aspect, we all have the same star dust in cell. Could also be why Cults, religions and societies act and think in the same way; even when you can prove through the historical record that what they believe in is false; they are hooked into the consciousness of ‘others’ in said cult, religion or belief system.
Repetition made it true for Religions? Political groups and their ideas, constructs, practices and teachings. Americans still think they are free?? They get a steady diet of “how free they are” on TV. Most AA’s think the Democrats support the poor, instead of realizing they create poverty; while most whites think the Republicans support them and their interests, not realizing they were thrown overboard 100 + years ago. These all show that consciousness is shared. It’d be impossible to get one group to support war against another group if they weren’t consciously connected. Thoughts are simply ‘waves’ that are emitted into the universe forever, just as a radio or Microwave. They are not contained, but shared throughout the universe.
In our brains there are parts responsible for feelings (anger etc.). We have those brains from our ancestors. Learn about brain and mind. There are lots of books.
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So, this is why realizing that I'm not alone in my suffering always makes me feel better, it takes the pressure off and i stop judging myself so much.
I'd feel better if I was the only one. I don't need other people to feel bad too make me feel better. I feel better knowing that sadness and pain are temporary. That bliss is the default. And that others have it makes me happy because it means we all have it.
suffering is nothing more than a "perception". Shift it and change your experience.
@@lgroves336Isn't that just escaping suffering? Change your perception, use NLP to change your brain to make it happy blah blah blah. We suffer because the system we live in is sick. It's a sick society. Look at the drugs, porn, hate, slavery, unfairness, greed, deception, mockery of the public, trafficking, the prisons we are being herded into etc. You want to change your perception and say this is all good? Don't worry be happy? Nah not me. Face life as it is.
Solidarity❣️🙏🏼
@@lgroves336 That's why realizing others suffer too helps my perception shift. It's not that I want others to suffer too, but it helps me realize we are all one therefore everyone's suffering is also mine. It removes self-pity and takes the focus off my petty little self.❤
Simply ask yourself, "Do I think or does thought just happen?"
The truth is, thought just happens, just like breathing.
Really? And how do you do that? Do you think in language? What would your thoughts be without language?
@evonyshaky65, If thought just happens, why do we experience ourselves as thinkers? Surely, thought cannot be understood without understanding what the thinker is and where he/she rises from. Is it not?
@@tenbear5 Without language, our thoughts would be images. Is it not?
@@pradeepkumarm944 the thinker is itself another thought
Sorry, friend, thought may be a habit, but it doesn't have to happen. Breathing has to happen. Further, thinking is an act of memory. So, by definition, thinking takes us out of the present moment (diminishing our awareness) and distorts perception.
I used to get stunned by thinking the same thing that the people I see feel the same thing as me. As I feel the 'I' so do they.
Whatever living beings that exist feels the same thing. It's our duty not to let them become evil because if we let them so, we'll have to punish them and in this way the 'I' will feel pain. As it's not the 'I' which does something but the nature/ system. So we must take care of our society such that nobody becomes evil.
When I suffer in isolation the pain is intolerable, but when I know the world is suffering with me and in the same way, that realization brings about mitigation of that suffering. And in this video, K elaborates on that principle. It's an incredible realization! ❤
More power to you 🙏🏼
Other people suffering with “you” is not what he is talking about.
Instant remedy from years of depression, anxiety and self pity or hatred. But you should already be ready or deserving to receive and imbibe this wisdom in the proper way.
The master shows the path but it's we who walk it.
Suffering is a distorted interpretation and victimization of the ego-mind.
Because every single thought is not even yours, every single belief is not yours.
It's only a suggestion from the Collective Mental Field of Consciousness.
It doesn't means that you have to accept it, you don't have to resonate with that thoughts and beliefs.
It's the activity of the movements of the mind-ego to grasp onto the experience of suffering and pain.
You can liberate yourself from those thoughts and beliefs.
Your real nature is Silent Awareness.
But the ego-mind took over the control of life and storyline of the sim character making a drama and reaffirming its apparent identity as the sim character.
The ego is only a mental energy that believes it is a body.
Stop believing what the 3D lower egoic mind tells you, it's an illusion, you don't have to accept any belief, any thought.
Observe the movements of this mind that isn't yours, and guide the mind into yourself, into the Spiritual Heart.
Those true words hit so deep! This great man is the definition of wisdom. Literally opens up my mind every time I hear him talk. Blessed he came across my path 💫 One Love ♥️
What a vibrant up-to-date message !! Soooo _alive_ & the Question he poses at the end of this video, it goes just to the point. *Humanity* - & then every _single_ one of us as a representative of this Humanity - we haven't solved yet that relevant Question !!
J.K. was not just merely a philosopher or a visionary but a true _Mistic_ . Thank You for sharing his wisdom 🙏 ✨✨✨
Its like hearing my self in some one else's mouth,Thank you Krishna murti 🙏🙏🙏 it amazes me when this happens and too see the great results off my hard inner work🧘♂️🧘♂️im so happy 😊😊😊
I can share this which is the following:
Imagine a wave of the sea and the sea they are not different, they are the same, it is water, so changing the wave for conscious people and the sea for consciousness shows that everything is consciousness and the consciousness is not real but illusory because consciousness and the envelope of the Consciousness, which is the body, is changing, it suffers both physical and psychological alterations and then die, same for consciousness, like the example of the sea wave and the sea speaking of non-duality.
The wave appears and disappears, where is it? obviously in the sea, that is the same as saying a person is born, dies and returns to his state which is pure consciousness.
People are vehicles of consciousness, which is consciousness itself, not separated. In order to be able to see itself, consciousness manifests itself in appearances, otherwise it would be in a state of non-appearance, it could not be seen, something like the following could be said:
There is a person who is concious in a totally dark room but he does not see anything because of the darkness so he creates the appearances you and I, the universe and all the rest of the visible objects and things to be able to see and manifest. Consciousness is creating mirages of itself in order to see itself.
What truly remains unchanged and absolute is...
But first the question:
Who am I, the manifested consciousness or the unmanifested and unalterable absolute?
- Silence, without the word silence.
The contradictions are creade by duality the opposite of non duality, so that's why there is so much confusion and contradictions
While this presentation is excellent, I am intrigued by one statement of JK around 6:43 into the presentation. Having rightly stated that an individual(man) is illusory, why is JK making the statement that: "MAN has CREATED, the society of greed, envy and hatred, brutality, violence, wars, extraordinary world of technology". Question arises: how can an illusory figure create anything at all? I would submit that hatred, brutality, violence, wars, technology all emerge (so to speak) from that eternal source of Consciousness from which the name and form of Man also emerges (so to speak). Consciousness is the source and substance of all that appears. All the "ills" and "technology" pointed out by JK, are relative phenomena holding relative reality, appearing and disappearing in consciousness (in a state of apparent duality) and not in/from an individual. But I do recognize that I could have misinterpreted his position in this short snippet which obviously is not giving the totality of his presentation and if if so I offer my apologies.
Gratitude ❤
I've worked with many people from India. Very nice people. I've always wondered how smart they must be to learn English and for this man to speak so well is quite inspiring.
Speaks better than me.
He speaks better than I (do).
@@billtomson5791what’s interesting is the real reason for this is most middle eastern standard writing is written right to left rather then left to right so speech patterns also differ. I’ grew up bi-lingual as I moved to the US from the middle east and I can tell you and this isn’t to say one language or one way is superior but the way words and thoughts are put together differ because of this. Look into what the left hemisphere of your brain does and your right. Being left or right handed also effects this.
Thank You J.Krishnamurti
Helps to have a wider perspective on life.
'We must question what is told in Scriptures, all the answers are found there itself'. Unless question, we can't grow in any faith... neither spiritually...!
Religion is a stepping stone towards spirituality, if taken with wisdom... and not with intellect.
Soo happy the moment when I discovered you my master even tho you don't want to be titled.. I have no choice but to honor you my MASTER!!!!!
These words come from inner experince he felt when he was alone with his Masters ...
Exactly. As simple as that. Consciousness is not just another attribute of a separate individual, but the "me" emerges in consciousness.
From that separative absurdity, all that can be expected is an absurd and contradictory life.
Therefore, we are not to organize a "new conscious society," to look for something like that out there, for that is exactly what we are talking about. It is now. Without any template, without any reference. Life is an eternally generative void, but looking for it, being misplaced individuals, that void never seems to operate (although it is always doing so, but the generated is placated by calling it "my memories, my partner, my desire, etc."). There is no "my"...😒
Consciousness perceives through senses. But only once set of senses. No consciousness ever experiences more than one set . What about "mind reading?"
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This is fantastic consciousness known as J. Krishnamurti.
to quote laotzu "How do I know that the world is like this? because of what is within me"
Krishnamurti lays out the argument that there is no free will. We're all products of our society, families, and the trauma involved in all of that. Our trauma-bound past is what dictates our behaviors. Not this silly thing that people think they have called "free will."
Mas deixarmos de ser o que somos, isto é, condicionados pelo passado, simplesmente acontece ou depende de que tenhamos a consciência deste fato e, como JK propõe, prestemos total atenção a ele? --- Isto não implica num ato de vontade?
There is security in individualism. Often people with private agenda always betray you. Betrayal causes pain. Pain causes anxiety and desperation. All that leads to further isolation by the individual. A Hero must remain anonymous for him to be able to any good for the week and defense-less. Prepare. Sacrifice. Endure.
This particular video is dense with valuable insights, i will definitely come back to it. ❤
The great scientists welcomed this and sought to understand. It was utterly life changing for some of them, and brought a lot of goodness to their lives and the lives of those around them. How much is owed to this man?
Awesome
Great, such broad minded.
By God's grace. Thanks.
At some point in my life I have realized that I am not my emotions, then I realized that I am not my thoughts, then I realized that I am not my body.. All what remained was Consciousness.. But what if I wasn’t Consciousness neither, it’s just that I haven’t realized that yet! That’s what I’m gonna figure out in the next trip🤣
You cannot deny your own existence/consciousness!!!. If you deny, the "denier" will be YOU as the PRINCIPLE OF EXISTENCE/CONSCIOUSNESS. Try as you may, you will never be able shake off that principle. You will never be able to deny it nor will you even be able to imagine/conceive its absence. The other name for that principle of Existence/Consciousness is "I".
death denies existence/consciousness easily.
And deep dreaming state has no sense of existence or consciousness. "I am" knowledge is appearance of existence experience. Iam appears and vanish every day. So, you are always who observe and notice appearing and disappearing of existence and consciousness and that why consciousness is not I . Unexistence is source of all matter and experience.@@ravindramurthy3486
"I AM that I AM"
So lucky thankyou 💕..."who is watching "
Very wise words (not from J.K.) ... "Human being does, indeed, have a body, but he himself/herself is not the body". WHO the human being IS, then? What about his consciousness? Is it only personal, or UNIVERSAL? Could it be that BOTH descriptions would apply? Questions, questions .... and more questions. Playing with WORDS is not enough to know what is TRUE. One has to REALLY want to know and ... go for it. Answers are WITHIN... but most people are too LAZY to look there.
we all may be having the same conversation simultaneously word for word in this greatest of illusions called life. Frozen in indecision wondering if we have ever really had any liberty to be in silence, space, and stillness.
Outrageous quote not fact
❤ I love you so much ❤️
One fine man.
There is no security in isolation. All trauma healing occurs within community, not isolation, too. ❤ We are beautiful. 😊
Not of all humanity but all things in the universe, aka hari. Jai shree Narayan.
Per sempre ❤Krishnamurti, il sentiero senza tempo❤
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Stupendo!
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All Living Beings, is Eternal Living Life-Units,
they all have their very own Eternal Consciousness.
There is Only the Same Eternal Life, We all refer to the Same 'I',
which cant be seen, Only Known.
It is done in One. Commonsense has become so common!
Compassion requires that the 0.5% of Anarchists, Terrorists, Fundamentalists, disruptive threats be kept in check in a prudent, preventive, proactive manner. That is commonsense too!
your consciousness is a product at least is a frequency of energy in which it traduces in your acts, thoughts, and emotions. is a field of energy condensed into different singularities, a chain of events that took place in the past and that will affect our future.
There is no someone, a unique separate person. You are anyone, and everyone.
Yes... And 100% of the society runs from the person axiom... 🙄
But how is that possible logically?
Learn to be still, profoundly still and become accustomed to that, then you might find out
When you identify with the serial killer and the rapist... make sure you stay away from women and children!
@@kartikeyasharma6258
Thinking is not power of brain/body, it is power of Spirit, and Spirit is same in all. So individual is not one who thinks, he just have thoughts that he is thinking.
@Kfoundation Has JK ever spoken, elaborated about his motivation behind referring himself as the speaker. I am pondering this. Any excerpt you can release on this would be beneficial for us 🙏🏽
When you fully understand what you really are, once you recognise the fact that you are not an indivisible. Inwardly we share the same.
yes WE can. go and practice honest sharing after Gopal Norbert Klein and transform all suffer and this world!
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By the way, "individual" means undivided, i.e. wholesome.
Excellent point!
The (sometimes) subtle differences are the joy of this uni-verse.
Our consciousness is nothing alike, as it is defined by the thoughts, feelings and wills (actions) we 'CHOOSE to harbor' in every moment.
But yes, could have started from the same origin :)hehe
@@sydney456consciousness is defined by awareness, not the content of awareness, and the content of awareness may be perceived uniquely but it’s not unique. There are no individuals.
@@ProjectMoff Not talking about content here, ma friend.
How is one 'aware' of anything... in the absence of 'thoughts' and 'concepts'???...
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Falsch !!! Consesnes is mein,and i together with the field the colektiv. Just like Wolken, and after rain drop. I ,M, HU I.M.😮 THANK YOU
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He's pleaing with the audience. He understands that 80% of them hear the words but don't know the music.
If it's not mine then all of humanity should be able to figure all of it by themselves; and as such, I'll be on a beach.
Is not yours. It is ours. We are all one.
Misery loves company
Very few people understood/understand Krishnamurti. That was the game the Theosophical Society played with him and with all of us. This information was ultimately more destructive than constructive to our collective consciousness: It bred more confusion, anger, envy, and frustration among humans. This information was meant for those ready to receive it. This is why the GATEkeepers allowed him an audience rather than trying to destroy him. It was a mockery, sadly.
A snowflake is unique, but it's just water.
I am unique, but I'm just consciousness.
X brought me here.
Does he ever explain how to examine things so carefully that this is seen, not just believed bcuz K said it?
Thoughtless action, does not allow examination. To examine, forces the observer to act, examing their own thoughts and action. Which stops action without reward.
Do they only took him to speak at train stations?
If there is individual, then who is the sufferer ?
I dare to disagree -- my consciousness is eternal, inviolate and individual.
That it shares a level with the universal consciousness does not in any way remove its individuality.
Consciousness expresses and experiences itself in every possible manifestation, each experiencing its own individual eternity.
Astral projection proves your point.
haha everyone in power needs to watch this
Them ppl are part of a simulated reality, and as long as you're part of that dimension, this information won't matter to them because they can't see past the simulacrum.
Wanna fight about it?
It belongs to the government. Don’t forget it.
Individuals don't exist only Individualized activity. Just the same as so called "enlightenment". There are no enlightened beings per se, only enlightened activity. There. Now the you that isn't there is free.
Adolf had to go to this extreme to balance his consciousness. Well i hope the world finds this out before they miss out on the global ascension
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i disagree.. we are one, but not this way.
Disagree on shared consciousness
Can you say more about why?
Underrated comment. This is where Ayn Rands' philosophy comes in hand. The book called "The Virtue of Selfishness" will change your life, forever!
Neither yours
There is no one behind that apparent sufferer. Just as there isn’t anyone behind the eyes and no one behind the sense of self 😂😂😂
The fact that the 'thoughts' are not owned by an individual, and Thinking is a Spiritual activity in itself, does not justify his conclusion that 'Your Consciousness is not yours'.
Neither does the fact that all human beings go through similar problems, within the same World.
Very superficial argumentation.
J. Krishnamurti can repeat his 'Your Consciousness is not yours' mantra as many times as he wishes - repetition does not make it True.
I think what he’s saying is that the universal consciousness, which we all are apart of is one. Artists know this fact to be true, that there is no separation; our ego’s want us to think, feel and believe that we are separate.
Prince once said in an interview that he had some great ideas for a couple of songs in the middle of the night. He called his band in the middle of the night and told them to meet him in the studio. He explained to them that if he didn’t get the songs recorded, that Michael Jackson or some other musician
would get those songs.
He understood that everything is one.
The double slit and other hard scientific experiments have also proved that there is no separation, and in fact that time and space doesn’t exist.
Twins, family members and good friends have been known to know when something bad happened to someone half a world. This has been proven with some insects as well.
Even from a physical aspect, we all have the same star dust in cell.
Could also be why Cults, religions and societies act and think in the same way; even when you can prove through the historical record that what they believe in is false; they are hooked into the consciousness of ‘others’ in said cult, religion or belief system.
Repetition made it true for Religions? Political groups and their ideas, constructs, practices and teachings. Americans still think they are free?? They get a steady diet of “how free they are” on TV. Most AA’s think the Democrats support the poor, instead of realizing they create poverty; while most whites think the Republicans support them and their interests, not realizing they were thrown overboard 100 + years ago.
These all show that consciousness is shared. It’d be impossible to get one group to support war against another group if they weren’t consciously connected.
Thoughts are simply ‘waves’ that are emitted into the universe forever, just as a radio or Microwave.
They are not contained,
but shared throughout the universe.
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In our brains there are parts responsible for feelings (anger etc.). We have those brains from our ancestors. Learn about brain and mind. There are lots of books.
I can tell by the little you have written that you don't have an understanding of Krishnamurti's teachings.
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