@@ancientchinesehistorychannel but what happens when you outlived the emperor and their son didnt succeed the throne? Should they commit suicide to die together with the emperor
This makes me very happy as I felt sorry for these 2. Consort Ying is a favorite with her strong Mongolian temperament 😄 she makes me giggle. Thank you again, Ruyi's love in the Palace is my all time greatest favorite movie and I haven't stopped watching Asian Imperial Drama since. Love this ❤
I’m really shocked to see that Emperor Qianlong had 6 consorts at the same time, on which according to the Imperial Harem Rank System, the emperor can only have 4 imperial wives in the consort rank at the same time.
Thanks so much I watched both popular series with Ruyi and Wei Yingluo. I was a bit confused and assumed the creators took poetic license to portray history from 2 different points of view. Both shows were very entertaining. Your history videos make everything so much clearer and help explain history better. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Wow, thank you for this. SO interesting! It helped to see the portraits of the characters from Ruyi, so much. Really well organized and easy to follow.
Omg i really wished someone would make a video like this. My dream came true. From what i read, consort dun was batshit crazy and super entitled. And i wonder how hard it was for ying, yu, wan to get along with her. Maybe after consort dun died, they were like “geez good riddance”.
In real history, consort Dun was the evil one in Qianlong’s imperial women. But she had no chance to show in the TV drama. So people don’t know her. I will make video about her.😀
Wow you are to be complimented on your video content. Your research is in depth and very much appreciated. I also would like to say I admire you for your excellent English, not an easy language to learn and you have done so brilliantly.
Personally, i didn't like Consort Shu's dead in Ruyi's Royal Love In The Palace, besides that she one of my favorite characters, her details about her death were never shown in the drama right after she died (similar with Concubine Yi) despite being a real historical character, like Noble Consort Chun and Jia, maybe was due to her wrong death date since Ruyi's was still alive back then.
This video illustrates how different a historical costume drama can be from actual history. The screen play is essentially a detective story of Ruyi and Hailan as the Sherlock Holmes and Watson characters with the Dowager as a sort of forensic detective. The way that the character of the Qianlong emperor is written, he is something of a half wit who is living in the midst of a group of female serial killers. Seems a little odd to me that the writers would have taken this approach with one of the more successful emperors of the Qing dynasty. Given the youth that many of the women would have been when they entered the palace and the rather limited education of most of them it is hard to imagine how they would have acquired the knowledge to hatch such complicated murder plans and given how rule bound the imperial household was and the fact that the women were constantly attended and practically never alone it is hard to see how some of the elaborate schemes could be carried out. One difficulty I had with the overall look of the series is the fact that they chose to employ the aesthetics of the late 19th to early 20th centuries for fashions rather that the 18th century. Also the rather elaborate hair on the part of the female maids and attendants would have been impossible from a practical point of view if one had to be on call nearly constantly to have to appear in such elaborate hairpieces, even if some if it were not real it would still take some time to put together rendering any practical service impossible at short notice.
Qing dynasty inner court was really peaceful. In another dynasties, there were real wars in the imperial palace. For TV drama, I understand the producers want to make complications to get more audiences, but I really don’t like, they made some good people looked evil and horrible. 😀
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Also they made the Qianlong emperor look almost stupid. The thing I find about many historical dramas is that the actual history is often interesting enough without having to make up things to make it more appealing,
@@galleryguide9913 I didn't read Qianlong as stupid-just as willfully ignoring what didn't suit his political agenda. he sacrificed Ruyi at every turn because she had no political backing and expected her to suck it up cause she loved him.
wow a really long and confusing time line thank you for to this wonderful video. will be great if you do one comparing the real person with the character in drama you could compare it with ruyi's and yanxi palace one and also mention some others less populars, and will be great if you compare the empress dowager Chongqing with his counterparts in TV starting with the legend of zhehuan. I know you mention this topic in their own videos but wil be great if you do it a specific video About it. And a question you still plan to do a video about Hua Mulan ? thank you for another great video Bing 😊 excellent as always.I really enjoy this channel
very informative. i watched the series and totally enjoyed. i had wished that Ruyi had lived and was there to help her son go up the ranks. history does not say what Ruyi died from?
@7:40; in 1776 an 18 year old girl came into the Forbidden City and halfway across the ocean in the new world some random Americans were fighting for freedom against the British. History is so wild!
It would be nice to know their ages. That must be hard to be lower rank and for so long. Did the survivors join later so were younger? What happened to them after?
most of them where very young and low ranked concubines, which is really sad they basically lost their lives kind of alone, but got too see other stuffs, Bing has a video talking about the nine surviving Qianlong consorts please take a look at it.
It give more then one Secret of Qianlong Imerial Woman🧐. I think the Maker of the Series need a lot of Drama. For me i saw only Woman she was fighting for thier Families and was more looking for Friendship. To don´t waiting the whole Day of her call to the Emperor´s Bedroom. But we don´t know realy how was the Life to Qianlongs time. For Year in Riga was found a Box full of pepper Letter from a Dealer from Lübeck out the 15. or 14. Century with his Wife. This was a really Treasur and a Window in the Past of the Hanse in the Eastsea Area. And this kid of letter were great from Qianlong´s time.
There appears to be an error in your last picture. I think you meant noble consort Ying and consort Wan. But it was consort Wan who was QianLong’s oldest surviving consort in the FC, right?
The system is super complicated ... I wonder what really happened with all these consorts? Were they good, or evil, or somewhere in between? I guess we'll never know their secrets
i think noble consort yu (5th prince's mother) is higher and more senior in rank than consort shu, but why consort shu is consider as the highest rank consort after imperial noble ling passed away?
I feel bad for Consort Wan. She literally lived her whole life in the Forbidden City and never got the emporers love completely, just to die within the walls. Idk if she was happy, but i really hope so.
How many people can 1 man truly love in 1 lifetime? She was 1 of many and there’s no way he could’ve loved them all, the problem is most girls think they can make a man love them and that is not how reality works, pretty sure half of these women didn’t actually love the emperors also but more the love and cravings for power ( status)
The last emperor still has living descendants, but beyond that, it may be more difficult to trace. The last emperor's descendants changed their family surname to Jin.
Oh wow. I thought Consort Yú outlived the emperor. Also, how come the emperor didn’t have anymore empresses after Empress Ulanara? Even from a video you recently posted, he didn’t even treat Imperial Noble Consort Ling as a true Imperial Noble consort. He just sounds more and more like a jerk to me every time I learn about him. He even gave his son Emperor Jiaqing a falling dynasty before retiring
@Raunak that's why I said the only reason he did it was for his crown prince. I doubt he would have done it had he not picked her son to be his successor.
This is what i think. I think he liked her company, she was managing harem later so she was probaly smart and she had most kids with him so... She was probaly good in bed lol. But he gave others more money and gifts so i doubt he loved her.
@@Sikiru Her son the Jiaqing emperor posthumously titled her as Empress Xiaoyichun in 1799 when Qianlong passed away (Qianlong had already posthumously titled her as Empress Xiaoyi in 1795 before his abdication). The dowager title is used only for widows and cannot be applied to consorts that predecease the emperor. But the converse may be true, that is, empress dowagers may be posthumously titled as empress (if they weren't one during their lifetime!) just like what Qianlong did to his mother the Empress Dowager Chongqing who was only a Noble Consort during the time of Emperor Yongzheng. She was posthumously titled as Empress Xiaoshengxian in 1777.
And I understand why come his ass was so crazy shoot I would have been a nutcase too with all them women and doing all that mess that they were doing and ruling the world too no one he was crazy snorting that stuff up his nose don't think anybody noticed
I’m so confused the first empress was the emperor’s real love not Ruyi? I thought ruyi was his first choice and the Only reason she wasn’t picked as empress was because of her aunt and the debacle between the crown prince at the time
Based on the history, Empress Fucha was the one he loved. More or less, Empress Fucha from Yanxi was quite the real interpretation. If you saw Zhen Huan, Empress Ula Nara was caught did many evil deeds, and that was why she was put into seclusion.
@Raunak actually not confusing because the drama Zhen Huan and Yanxi or Ruyi are continuation. At the end of Zhen Huan, the empress of Yong Zheng was put into seclusion because she did many things. That was why in Yanxi and Ruyi, the first empress was Fucha. And actually, choosing an empress was really tight. Based on family background and also the personality. Empress Fucha at the time of selection was the perfect choice, even the second prince was named by emperor Yong Zheng, and when he passed, he was granted crown prince title.
Like Tang Ruizong Li Dan and his harem concubines, Qianlong was also the previous emperor or emperor's father of the Qing Dynasty, and the three palaces and six courtyards of the previous emperor or emperor's father are still in existence. Like Tang Dynasty, and their concubines also not the mother of the emperor, reincarnation of history
im so happy i found your channel!! im trying to connect with my chinese heritage & i really really love history so this is like. super exciting for me!! thank you sm for your videos
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Miss Wan entered the game, unbothered, stayed on her lane, moisturized, minding her own business and almost outlived everybody. Slayyyy 😂
I would love if someone redid another tv series about Qianlong's harem,having Noble consort Wan as the narrator because she out lived everyone.
That’s a brilliant idea!
yangzi palace is that story. sometimes called legend of lingfei
Noble consort Wan died at 92 years , she literally saw everything happened and she never got the emperors favor 🥺😥
There were so many imperial women who didn’t get emperor’s favorite and died at very young. 😭
Best way to survive i guess?
Proves that if you stay out of drama and just do your own thing, you'll survive! But probably be ridiculously lonely and bored the entire way :/
I can now assume the secrets of having a longer life... Non intimate relationship will keep you on the long run...
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel but what happens when you outlived the emperor and their son didnt succeed the throne? Should they commit suicide to die together with the emperor
It's strange that Consort Yu (Yongqi's mother) didn't get promotion that high even she was from the Prince's resident.
I loved Ying's character in Ruyi's story so I was happy to see the real Ying survived and preservered, hehe
This makes me very happy as I felt sorry for these 2. Consort Ying is a favorite with her strong Mongolian temperament 😄 she makes me giggle. Thank you again, Ruyi's love in the Palace is my all time greatest favorite movie and I haven't stopped watching Asian Imperial Drama since. Love this ❤
Thank you. 😀
I’m really shocked to see that Emperor Qianlong had 6 consorts at the same time, on which according to the Imperial Harem Rank System, the emperor can only have 4 imperial wives in the consort rank at the same time.
Rulers were set by the emperor. 😏😀
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel indeed.
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel if I will be a Qing emperor, I will have two imperial noble consorts. haha
Are you going through a chinese imperial palace phase like me? I see ur profile pic, lol.
The rule is whatever the emperor wishes to do. 😢
I believe Consort Wan was smart. Stay low, and survive the harem war.
Her character in Ruyi Palace Love is really show her real life
Thanks so much I watched both popular series with Ruyi and Wei Yingluo. I was a bit confused and assumed the creators took poetic license to portray history from 2 different points of view. Both shows were very entertaining. Your history videos make everything so much clearer and help explain history better. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Wow, thank you for this. SO interesting! It helped to see the portraits of the characters from Ruyi, so much. Really well organized and easy to follow.
Thank you so much Bing for the detailed chronology ! so much work ^^ ! really awesome !
Thank you so much for your effort in making and explaining this timeline! 💕
😀You're so welcome!
That must've been hard work simplyfying this complex system but you did it well! Thank you so much. And the pictures really helped too. :-)
😀🥰You're very welcome!
Omg i really wished someone would make a video like this. My dream came true. From what i read, consort dun was batshit crazy and super entitled. And i wonder how hard it was for ying, yu, wan to get along with her. Maybe after consort dun died, they were like “geez good riddance”.
In real history, consort Dun was the evil one in Qianlong’s imperial women. But she had no chance to show in the TV drama. So people don’t know her. I will make video about her.😀
Wow you are to be complimented on your video content. Your research is in depth and very much appreciated. I also would like to say I admire you for your excellent English, not an easy language to learn and you have done so brilliantly.
Thank you so much.😀🥰
This really helped me see and understand the changes in rank of the various women, thank you!
thank you for this in depth explanation!
Personally, i didn't like Consort Shu's dead in Ruyi's Royal Love In The Palace, besides that she one of my favorite characters, her details about her death were never shown in the drama right after she died (similar with Concubine Yi) despite being a real historical character, like Noble Consort Chun and Jia, maybe was due to her wrong death date since Ruyi's was still alive back then.
Consort Shu was a very important consort in middle of Qianlong’s age. I will talk her later.
This video illustrates how different a historical costume drama can be from actual history. The screen play is essentially a detective story of Ruyi and Hailan as the Sherlock Holmes and Watson characters with the Dowager as a sort of forensic detective. The way that the character of the Qianlong emperor is written, he is something of a half wit who is living in the midst of a group of female serial killers. Seems a little odd to me that the writers would have taken this approach with one of the more successful emperors of the Qing dynasty. Given the youth that many of the women would have been when they entered the palace and the rather limited education of most of them it is hard to imagine how they would have acquired the knowledge to hatch such complicated murder plans and given how rule bound the imperial household was and the fact that the women were constantly attended and practically never alone it is hard to see how some of the elaborate schemes could be carried out. One difficulty I had with the overall look of the series is the fact that they chose to employ the aesthetics of the late 19th to early 20th centuries for fashions rather that the 18th century. Also the rather elaborate hair on the part of the female maids and attendants would have been impossible from a practical point of view if one had to be on call nearly constantly to have to appear in such elaborate hairpieces, even if some if it were not real it would still take some time to put together rendering any practical service impossible at short notice.
Qing dynasty inner court was really peaceful. In another dynasties, there were real wars in the imperial palace. For TV drama, I understand the producers want to make complications to get more audiences, but I really don’t like, they made some good people looked evil and horrible. 😀
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Also they made the Qianlong emperor look almost stupid. The thing I find about many historical dramas is that the actual history is often interesting enough without having to make up things to make it more appealing,
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel when did the tradition of palace drama shows start?
@@MH-ms1dg The King's woman ha avuto un successo enorme.
@@galleryguide9913 I didn't read Qianlong as stupid-just as willfully ignoring what didn't suit his political agenda. he sacrificed Ruyi at every turn because she had no political backing and expected her to suck it up cause she loved him.
Helpful video, thanks.
Loved this! Thanks!
So glad!😀🥰🥰
Consort Gao is the most Karen concubine in Qing Dynasty. 😆
wow a really long and confusing time line thank you for to this wonderful video. will be great if you do one comparing the real person with the character in drama you could compare it with ruyi's and yanxi palace one and also mention some others less populars, and will be great if you compare the empress dowager Chongqing with his counterparts in TV starting with the legend of zhehuan. I know you mention this topic in their own videos but wil be great if you do it a specific video About it.
And a question you still plan to do a video about Hua Mulan ?
thank you for another great video Bing 😊 excellent as always.I really enjoy this channel
I already did the video about her poetry. This poetry was the source of Mulan’s story. 😀
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Very confusing
Thank you for this video.
My pleasure!😀
We need a season 2 of that drama to see all of these
Thank you very much!
very well organized and informative.
THANK YOU!
Consort Chun almost looks like she was going to smile in her portrait.
Wallace Huo becomes the standard face for Emperor Qianlong!
Handsome Emperor and Pretty Consorts and Concubines.
very informative. i watched the series and totally enjoyed. i had wished that Ruyi had lived and was there to help her son go up the ranks. history does not say what Ruyi died from?
@7:40; in 1776 an 18 year old girl came into the Forbidden City and halfway across the ocean in the new world some random Americans were fighting for freedom against the British. History is so wild!
Thanks Bing I always wondered if the emperor promoted the more than the set amount of consorts. But I guess what the emperor wants he gets.
the rulers were set by the emperor. Of course, he could broke it. I will make videos about this topic.
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel thanks Bing.
great video! will you provide sources?
Strange how qianlongs wives dies after peaking the highest ranks 😄😄does he get tired them and poison them slowly to die
I thought there can only be 4 concubines with a consort rank but at a time, Qianlong even had 6.
So since this is the case I need another drama around consort yu or consort ying cause the drama with consort dun would be lit
It would be nice to know their ages. That must be hard to be lower rank and for so long. Did the survivors join later so were younger? What happened to them after?
I will make video comparing the age.😀
most of them where very young and low ranked concubines, which is really sad they basically lost their lives kind of alone, but got too see other stuffs, Bing has a video talking about the nine surviving Qianlong consorts please take a look at it.
@@IGUniverse 🥰🥰🥰
Wow....just wow...
It give more then one Secret of Qianlong Imerial Woman🧐.
I think the Maker of the Series need a lot of Drama. For me i saw only Woman she was fighting for thier Families and was more looking for Friendship. To don´t waiting the whole Day of her call to the Emperor´s Bedroom.
But we don´t know realy how was the Life to Qianlongs time.
For Year in Riga was found a Box full of pepper Letter from a Dealer from Lübeck out the 15. or 14. Century with his Wife. This was a really Treasur and a Window in the Past of the Hanse in the Eastsea Area.
And this kid of letter were great from Qianlong´s time.
👍👍👍🥰
That’s good because Ying was my favourite character.
Thank you for your information I'm from India
Being "married" to the Emporer was bad for your health.
Bering “ loved” by the Emperor was really bad for health.😀😜
Sorry I have to ask Is the family line still around? on any of them?. Or can none of them be found.
I think I know which one died the oldest. She was a good egg in the drama.
There appears to be an error in your last picture. I think you meant noble consort Ying and consort Wan.
But it was consort Wan who was QianLong’s oldest surviving consort in the FC, right?
Another thing, Qianlong lived too long and the latter half of his reign had many corruption.
Shhhh…. Niuhuru HeShen wouldn’t have built such a beautiful manor if it weren’t for that.
The system is super complicated ... I wonder what really happened with all these consorts? Were they good, or evil, or somewhere in between? I guess we'll never know their secrets
Not a life style I would wish on any woman. But kudos to those that made it through despite the horrible circumstances they found themselves in.
i think noble consort yu (5th prince's mother) is higher and more senior in rank than consort shu, but why consort shu is consider as the highest rank consort after imperial noble ling passed away?
I will explain it in future video.
А супруга Шу не сгорела во дворце? Откуда тогда Шу
I feel bad for Consort Wan. She literally lived her whole life in the Forbidden City and never got the emporers love completely, just to die within the walls. Idk if she was happy, but i really hope so.
How many people can 1 man truly love in 1 lifetime? She was 1 of many and there’s no way he could’ve loved them all, the problem is most girls think they can make a man love them and that is not how reality works, pretty sure half of these women didn’t actually love the emperors also but more the love and cravings for power ( status)
Didn't consort Hailan have another name also?
I wonder one thing, who was in charge of harem after Imperial Noble Consort Ling?
In the video, Bing says it was Consort Shu. After her death it might have been Consort Ying.
👍You got the point.🥰
Consort yu?
I wonder though. After the monarchy fell, where are those Aisin-gioro descendant ? Are they still around ?
This is a good question.😏😀
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel All I know is 金毓嶂 is the last descendants. But I’m more interested to know about the other Aisin-Gioro, if there’s any.
The last emperor still has living descendants, but beyond that, it may be more difficult to trace. The last emperor's descendants changed their family surname to Jin.
Oh wow. I thought Consort Yú outlived the emperor. Also, how come the emperor didn’t have anymore empresses after Empress Ulanara? Even from a video you recently posted, he didn’t even treat Imperial Noble Consort Ling as a true Imperial Noble consort. He just sounds more and more like a jerk to me every time I learn about him. He even gave his son Emperor Jiaqing a falling dynasty before retiring
technically he did? he posthumously promoted Ling to empress, mostly because her son was his crown prince.
@Raunak that's why I said the only reason he did it was for his crown prince. I doubt he would have done it had he not picked her son to be his successor.
@Raunak I find this mentality strange but I guess they have their protocols.
Qianlong is the person, that if you know what he did in real history, you hardly like him. In my opinion.😀
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Well, supporting HeShen is one major thing I disliked about him.
I would guess haylayn
why noble consort gao is qianlong's true love and not empress xiaoxian? what makes her qianlong's true love?
Qianlong had many true loves. noble consort Gao was, Xiaoxian also was.
Whe became empress dowager?
Lots of death ☠️. I wonder what were the causes of death.
consort gao was his true love?? WHAT
En français svp
Did love Qianlong the real Imperial Consort Ling?
This is what i think. I think he liked her company, she was managing harem later so she was probaly smart and she had most kids with him so... She was probaly good in bed lol. But he gave others more money and gifts so i doubt he loved her.
Can you tell me who are the "made-up" characters in Ruyi and Yanxi?
Who was the Empress Dowager after Qianlong passed away?
No one.
Pretty sure it’s Wei yanwan
@@Sikiru Wei Yanwan (or imperial noble consort Ling) predeceased the emperor by a few years.
@@anandoghosh9081 her son posthumously named her dowager
@@Sikiru Her son the Jiaqing emperor posthumously titled her as Empress Xiaoyichun in 1799 when Qianlong passed away (Qianlong had already posthumously titled her as Empress Xiaoyi in 1795 before his abdication). The dowager title is used only for widows and cannot be applied to consorts that predecease the emperor. But the converse may be true, that is, empress dowagers may be posthumously titled as empress (if they weren't one during their lifetime!) just like what Qianlong did to his mother the Empress Dowager Chongqing who was only a Noble Consort during the time of Emperor Yongzheng. She was posthumously titled as Empress Xiaoshengxian in 1777.
And I understand why come his ass was so crazy shoot I would have been a nutcase too with all them women and doing all that mess that they were doing and ruling the world too no one he was crazy snorting that stuff up his nose don't think anybody noticed
In our Indian history they is no ranking system because Indian king's ligaly married his every woman
I’m so confused the first empress was the emperor’s real love not Ruyi? I thought ruyi was his first choice and the Only reason she wasn’t picked as empress was because of her aunt and the debacle between the crown prince at the time
The Ruyi’s Royal Love in the Palace was a fictional historical drama which is only based on the novel, not on real life.
Based on the history, Empress Fucha was the one he loved. More or less, Empress Fucha from Yanxi was quite the real interpretation. If you saw Zhen Huan, Empress Ula Nara was caught did many evil deeds, and that was why she was put into seclusion.
Lol…. You’re not suppose treat dramas as historical textbooks.
This was the difference between TV drama and real history.😭
@Raunak actually not confusing because the drama Zhen Huan and Yanxi or Ruyi are continuation. At the end of Zhen Huan, the empress of Yong Zheng was put into seclusion because she did many things. That was why in Yanxi and Ruyi, the first empress was Fucha. And actually, choosing an empress was really tight. Based on family background and also the personality. Empress Fucha at the time of selection was the perfect choice, even the second prince was named by emperor Yong Zheng, and when he passed, he was granted crown prince title.
Noble Consort Wan
Noble Consort Ying
Noble Consort Xun
Consort Fang
Consort Dun
Concubine Jin
Like Tang Ruizong Li Dan and his harem concubines, Qianlong was also the previous emperor or emperor's father of the Qing Dynasty, and the three palaces and six courtyards of the previous emperor or emperor's father are still in existence. Like Tang Dynasty, and their concubines also not the mother of the emperor, reincarnation of history
Wld b nicer if the pictures were larger. Waste of time otherwise
It was wan
👍👍👍
This youtuber needs to make a script so she doesn’t ramble. I fell asleep.
Please recommend my videos to anyone who can not fall asleep.🤭
Is there a connection between Ruyi and HAO LAN ?
Have no idea. Almost all documents about the step empress (Ruyi) are destroyed by Qianling.
im so happy i found your channel!! im trying to connect with my chinese heritage & i really really love history so this is like. super exciting for me!! thank you sm for your videos
😊Welcome!!