eMTB RANGE STORY: How far can you go in the eMTB assist mode on a 625Wh Trek Rail?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2020
- This is a real-world range test on the 625Wh Trek Rail eMTB on Cape Town's most technical trails. The Bosch system has four support modes of Eco, Tour, eMTB and Turbo but for this test the bike was only ridden in eMTB mode, which is the second highest support setting.
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Forgot just how stunning the Cape actually is!!! Last there 25 years ago. Need to get back. Sorry three years too late on your video but great work
Nice range test! I did 64 kilometer and 2215 meters of altitude climbing ( and also 2200 meters of descent) on one day with my standard Trek Rail 9.8 before the battery stopped. Used the whole day Eco mode and was cycling 6 hours (day was 9 hours). I am 93 kilo plus backpack from around 4,5 kilo.
Awesome. That is a big day out. Have you upgraded the software Hans? - Myles
@@bikenetwork_SA Yes I have the new update software on the Bosch motor.
Hoe many NM does your motor max in Eco mode?
@@aharongina5226 from the Bosch website: In Eco mode max 40 NM tourque, in normal Tour 50 NM, in e-mtb 85 NM and in Turbo 85 NM
@@bikenetwork_SA - where is that scenic trail?
Outstanding video. Loved it. Watched from beginning to end. Subscribed!!!
Nice informative video, keep up the good work, thanks!
super info and rides thanks its great to see these iconic Cape Town rides.... and that's some dedication to pencil moustaches you got there, fuc# i'd give up after 45seconds
Such a nice location.
Trek Rail is awesome. Previously my "huff & puff" ride was YT Jeffsy which was great, it's just that I developed AFIB so can ride normally but started getting AFIB more and guy in riding group let me ride his Spec Levo and converted me. Was going to wait few years but Emtb way too much fun. I will change between modes so takes pressure off heart and maximize fun. Uphill use emtb or turbo if really steep but if riding with mixed group Eco mode works well. The motor cuts off on downhills so still skills required 🚵♂️😎
Hey Greg. Thanks for sharing! Yes, eMTB's have so many upsides and functions. - On that note, you just gave me an idea for a new video! I am stoked you are able to enjoy all the pleasures of riding still. Take care mate. - Myles Kelsey
Great vid thank you for posting, trek trail 9.5 ? Or what else would you recommend with a price around £6 k , e mtb
Hmm...i was wanting to buy a powerfly 4 (625w) so i could travel further what i can comfortably ride on my scott scale 950 (hard tail) which is over 25 miles...so, if the battery can't do that, then is there any point?
I’ve had the Rail 7 since April and its been a great ride! I ride in Colorado so its fairly rocky and technical (we are the Rocky Mountains after all) and the Rail 7 is great for both climbing and descending. I have not found the motor to be too noisy and the range is at least 4-5 hours easy. I’m 6 feet tall and 180lbs with probably slightly above average fitness level these days. Love the geometry on this bike and the 29’ers help too as compared to my old Specialized s-works Epic carbon that’s 12 years old! All in all, been a really solid purchase for the money paid ($5300 US).
I'm considering buying the Rail 7 or Specialized Levo but I'm leaning towards the Rail. My local bike shop sells it for $5999 so you got a good deal.
Yes, I went in to start negotiations right before Covid shut everything down, so was able to talk them down a little. Would be hard now with the increased demand! I thought about the Levo as well but I was worried about the issues with the motor. I’ve spoke to a number of folks with Levo’s on the trails and about 3/4 have had those motor issues so I’m happy with my decision.
Where u got it for that price
LBS, timing was good, right before COVID!
Where did you say you got this bike for the price? I live on the front range in Colorado. Thanks
I can get 60km on a flat ride. Maybe 40km on a ride with significant elevation changes 500 watt batt
How would this stack up against the yamaha goro pro?
How did you find the geometry ? I owned a remedy , and demo rode a slash , I usually ride a large in most bikes , found the trek bikes to be quite short in the reach
The medium is a 445 reach with a 64.9h/a, which for me, at 1.74m and the way i like to ride is just peachy. If it was my bike I would go up to a 170mm fork. As is though, Strava tells me the Rail is VERY capable on technical trails. It works for me. On the current Slash I ride a Large. If you are buying an eMTB - I would advise not to go too huge on the reach, with the extra weight they can become less agile when you go with too big a reach number. Cheers! - Myles Kelsey
Great vid, thanks. What's yourr opinion of turning off the battery when riding donwhill? does this give more range?
Not at all
What about emtb lite? Can you get both in the Trek or it “erase” the normal emtb mode? Thanks
Also interested in this trek-only mode.
I've been hearing about the Bosch motor causing a rattle noise when decending, did you experience this with the rail?
Hi Ken, The Bosch system is not the quietest but also not the loudest. There is a slight rattle but its not as dramatic as some media outlets portray it to be and to be honest I barely notice it. All eMTB's have some added noises going on. When I started riding eMTB's I spent so much time fussing to make them quieter but after spending a lot of time on them it is not something that bothers me anymore. Nowadays I prioritize things like the manner in which the power is delivered, the overall agility of the bike, whether the decoupling is smooth or harsh and what kind of drag there is on the system when coasting. - Myles.
@@bikenetwork_SA I appreciate the reply, I've tested 3 different ebikes all with Shimano motors and they were all pretty much silent on the descent. Was debating on getting a trek rail but I'm still on the fence.
@@kencycles3655 its a great idea to demo all the bikes you have short listed. And try demo them on your local trails.
My friends and I have three ebikes, Rail 9.7. We've deemed them Chatter Bosches. Seemed appropriate. Very noisey on rough terrain but absolutely solid performing bikes.
@@eBikerHowie 🤣 that was a good one. Thanks for chiming in! Your comment takes me right off the fence.
personally not sure how to think about it . 50 km ride is for me a normal ride, nothing that drains me to a level on such trails that i feel depleted . so one way is then 25km, thats really short . i hoped a ebike will give me a wider range and possibility to see more but this way it will only die on me before im done and i have dead weight on me. i was on the look out for a electric dirt bike like CAKE but then i reminded myself to check electric mtb because i thought "oh cool i can still workout but have the extra power to go further then you normally would" . i think the only place this kind of electric bicycles make sense for "me" is for places with steep inclines and for riders who want to downhill technical trails on and on and have no lift near by. or if you want to travel with heavy weight (backpack).
You can get a spare battery and put it in a pack specifically made for them.
I just picked up my first ebike, this thing drains your energy in a different way, because its heavier and you are moving so much faster,you use alot more energy with upper body as well you have to keep high cadance to keep the motor turning on its sweetspot. So comparing your normal 50k with 50k on a ebike you may end up using more energy than you think, but offcourse if you do those 50k and still feel strong the only option is to go with a bike frame that has easy detectable battery or are some that take a small add-on pack that can boost your riding for aditional 20-25k.
Range test without mentioning the battery capacity? :)
At the time of filming, The Rail only had 1 battery size
Would have been good to see the same review in tour mode. i feel emtb is to much assistance on my rail9 and ride 95% in tour mode
Hi Mike, eMTB has plenty power hey. Thanks for the idea - maybe a back to back on the same trails but just in Tour mode is a good idea.....
@@bikenetwork_SA amazing bit of the world your in .that place looks unreal.
@@mikewormsman We don't have the big runs of the Alps or Andorra - but we have ocean, beach and mountain views for days. It is a bucket list destination for any mountain biker for sure. Cheers mate
Colorado is a big mountain State in the United States. My Rail 9.7 always ends up with the same mileage as follows: ECO/55 miles/7500 feet vertical, Tour/45/6500, eMTB/35/5500, Turbo/25/4500. It doesn't seem to care what speed I go. Very predictable battery usage.
@@eBikerHowie Have you run the software upgrade on the motor yet?
Hey enough talking more riding.. Dam drongo go pro hero 🤣🤙