It's a nice looking box but speaking as someone who of necessity has struggled with Linux for 25+ years, and sincerely hates the OS, I really don't get who this is for... IMO people who use Linux fall in to one of two categorises: -Those who have to use it on occasion, and sincerely hate it for the horrible and unintuitive mess that it is in all it's forms once you scratch below the semi-inviting surface - proof you can polish a turd... but a turd is still a turd no matter how well buffed it is. -Those who get a kick out of being the master of the magic that is unintelligible to mere mortals. The former, like me, are probably using and designing custom hardware and are often saddled with Linux simply because it and it's dev tools are free and available. The latter would never buy an off the shelf system because building your own rig is all part of the magic-nerd persona. So a 'normal' user buy's this system and finds they can't do their 'normal' stuff with it... what next? Start down the rabbit hole of many, many, scattered and unintuitive config files and the unhappy necessity of a command line when such a paradigm was dropped by everyone else 20+ years ago in the hope of getting it to do the things they want? All while running the gauntlet of the RTFM brigade when confusion inevitably results in their asking questions? I would expect anyone unfortunate to buy one of these systems, either by mistake or because they actually want to get in to Linux but have already demonstrated their 'lack the fortitude' to even build their own system, will quickly shout "Nope!" and either sling the whole thing in a cupboard and go buy a 'proper PC' or bung a less aggravating OS on it.
A couple years ago I was at my grandma's house to use her printer and I got on her PC and it had Linux on it. I couldn't figure out how to navigate it so my grandma had to teach me how to use Linux...
LOL. Go grandma! How old is she, and how long has she interacted with computers? She might have an affinity for Linux because it’s an open source reinterpretation of UNIX, the mainframe operating system used everywhere in the 80’s (I think, my dates are always whack).
He'd probably be complaining about the lack of the whole stack of proprietary software they need to run their business. Understandable of course, but not exactly a typical use case
@@Gaming4LifeDE Well as far as I remember, when he did the "iSwitched to Mac" series, he reviewed it as if he was a regular user or something like that. Like he didn't try to do video editing on it(though that's something very doable in Linux). Anyways, I'm not a Linux user myself, but it would still be interesting to see such a video, at least to me.
@@vesk4000 I gave up on M$ in 2009 and never looked back. Linux Mint Mate has got to be the most polished and dead-easiest distro there is. It even comes with it's own software manager for installing most-used programs. Yes, there's a lot of proprietary software out there that only runs on M$ but you can say the same about Mac-only software, too. Kdenlive is a free and open-source video editing software if that's your thing....and though I consider myself still a "basic" user, I've been able to dabble in Linux enough to get things to work without any huge issues. I'm self-employed as a residential computer tech and I can honestly say that I want to kiss this PC when I get home after a looooong day of troubleshooting all of the M$ disasters I see.
@@tracylf5409 if you're gaming, I'd suggest windows 7 with security patches and remove some "spyware" idk. its just faster to run games on windows bc of the optimization is good (english is not my first language) Edit: windows update made me lose my shit
The System 76 is a Concept headed in the right Direction. I have POP OS on my Computer and have not had any Problems what so ever, I wish the System 76 Team the Best of Luck.
@@John-X The Point is to have more options for Operating Systems other than Windows Apple and Android, and its much more Private. Most Linux OS's do not sell your info and keep Tabs on everything you Type or sites you visit
@@STONE69_ Oh. But I mean what does it matter if your ISP still knows everything you do and sells your data? Even VPN's still see what you do and sell your data.
@@John-X I'm in Canada, my ISP does not sell anyones info but do keep certain info. Its much different in the USA but Linux along with a VPN does help a lot except when you sign in to Google etc
@@STONE69_ I'm not trying to being douche or a contrarian, but I mean Canada is part of the Five Eyes which is five countries (CAN, USA, NZ, AUS, UK) which all have their own NSA (Canada's being CSEC). They all trade each other's information on all of us. You don't think Bell and Roger's are part of the Canadian government?
MOAR LINUX CONTENT My only gripe is how Linus described installing Linux, a lot of distributions have made it very easy. I've never had to compile my own kernel.
It's just as, if not easier, to install some of the more user friendly distros of Linux than it is to install Windows. In fact, it's what I tend to do when I have an otherwise perfectly find system, without a a paid for OS.
ugh ... As an old developer I don't like his style. He has so little respect for the efforts of those who paved the way (often with costly failures) for the amazing tech world we live in today.
@@user-xn3kt6bn5r LGR ridicules a lot of tech that at the time was pretty bleeding edge stuff so of course a lot of it was glitchy or may have seemed hokey relative to the amazing tech at our disposal today. To me, an inventive entrepreneur, that is seriously uncool. I'd rather someone say "Hey it's pretty lousy compared to what we get today, bit it was the only thing like it, it kinda worked, and nothing else was that good at the time, but don't expect to be wowed today". He's more likely to just call early tech as gimmicky and a waste.
WTF!! It's the catalog guy from no space Star Wars buy Bill prooves goldfish no kniwn swim,timex,eh! Call EN DIR? BsdZOS virtual win10,3billion eon journey in a nanosec'but irs not 95'flap Jack britty cab,humpfree,back too work'fergyzen'skitzo parrot pirate play island wiz prime minister were in cycle 2000,last?(Ever?)!... (FactOR:'UK was place wot built big triangle of bricks'its on the dollar bill'you don't learn it'?, living Faroese scotch pike style sheep shag timex not mind known count inn?)
In all fairness while you are required less and less to hunt down repos and build from source let's no kid ourselves Linux does require that a lot more. Linux drivers can be a hit or miss given that the kernel does not priotize backward compatibility like Windows does. So less issues with drivers than Linux although the lack of driver isn't Linux fault. They are both good Windows and Linux. I am not a fan boy. Also Linus was just being tongue and cheek here. He wasn't being literal.
@@monsterhunter445 I've been using Linux as my only desktop OS since like '07? and the last time I had any driver issues was like 12 years ago I think with a broadcom wifi card and the last time I compiled a kernel was to see if I could squeeze any more performance out of my CR-48 original Chromebook back in like 2011. (It didn't matter really at all. It just made the kernel a couple MB's smaller, not any faster). I mean really unless you're running bleeding edge or weird hardware everything should basically just work.
@no, as a matter of fact With the advances in Wine given all the effort that Valve and others have been putting into it lately, chances are that that odd .exe file from 06 years ago could work right outta the bat with little to no fiddling needed. Sometimes perfectly, sometimes with minor glitches. I keep getting surprised all the time with these little Windows utilities that you can simply click on setup.exe, click Next-Next-Finish and then launch it as if you were running Windows XP or something along these lines.
Yea me too. I wish Linux was more mainstream. I hope they can bring down the prices some because I feel that might be a turn off for some people. I can see how it is necessary though when it is such small scale production. They also need more case options because the wood grain would is not something most teens would buy so they are Alienating the young crowd who could be life long customers.
This is what you have to do Linus, Make a video “trying Linux for a day” And show what using Linux everyday is like Edit: Linux is not like windows, almost all the software is free and open source and you can customize anything you want to
I can inform you, using linux, you instantly notice everything is easier and faster to use, games and apps run faster, there are always alternatives to everything, and if you are a programmer, you can download the code for most apps and add features yourself and even send the code back so the developer can merge your code into theirs.
Now that'd be a video to see! Entire editing den, along w/ everyone else in bldg have USB drives stuck in back of their systems w/ the boot drive "missing..." Maybe let diff people use different distros to show how the same Kernel can run vastly different systems..?
@thegeorgezila exactly! Of showing the LMG crew doing their daily work on Linux doesn't bring exposure of the Kernel's POWER to light, even for Win hardcore users then I don't know what would do it... *Might feel a bit for Anthony though, needing to support everyone when they just so happened to screw something up somehow...
I’m a windows user, but I’ve been experimenting with learning Linux (Zorin OS through VirtualBox at the moment) and MacOS (Catalina through VirtualBox). I feel like on some distros, like Zorin or Mint, anyone moderately skilled with Windows can run Linux without much effort and with a bit of googling.
Thank you for being so positive when explaining the 1000 dollar difference. Linux may be free of use, but there are people working on it. People usually forget that. For me, a Linux user, it's a matter of paying what I believe it's right. And System76 is opening everything they can (their business secret, including the CAD files) to improve the overall Linux community and for free for everyone else. And seeing such comparison in performance made me remember why I switched to Linux in the first place: raw performance. Windows it's too bloated comparing to Linux and it's less efficient, as proven in this video. Gaming performance is a matter of Linux support by game developers, as the worst games had the overhead caused by Proton.
I suspect the performance gap will close once AMD launch that new chipset driver that is supposed to fix the Windows sheduler. But still, I was shocked to see the difference on my Ryzen laptop. browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/12574838?baseline=12217175 Although even Intel seems to run better on Linux. browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/12681914?baseline=12682041 Of course the actual experience is not necessarily the same. Firefox still runs better on Windows as the new hardware acceleration is not quite there yet, especially on nVidia where I can't seem to prevent screen tearing.
Gaming performance is mainly down to OpenGL vs DirectX on Win. Vulkan is getting wider support, and often games run better on Linux with Vulkan than on Win with Vulkan.
I believe Linux is superior to Windows, the advantage of Windows is software support. I have 2 systems, the one with lower specs runs Linux yet is noticeably snappier than the Windows one.
1000 dollar difference, that's fine, think of it as a father large donation to the team developing this. 1000 dollar difference for a case that is loud, has worse thermals than any other case, can't fit 3.5 drives and a non removable motherboard backplate so no possibility of upgrading in the future? Nah, I'm good thanks.
Never had to compile anything on Linux Only had to compile my own projects and when I've wanted a bleeding edge release of something Linux is not difficult to use these days! 🙃
Even if you do need to build from source, it's not like it's difficult or requires any developer knowledge. Usually you run a couple make commands and you're done.
If your source files are good and don't have any weird dependency issues, "./configure && make && sudo make install" is the only thing you have to do 😀
Davinci Resolve, is not just an industry leading color grading software, but also a fully fledged NLE, VFX compositer and DAW, with lots of people switching over from premiere or final cut x, so its a really big deal that it is available for linux, cos you basically don’t need anything else.
@intrnl Resolve is color grading software first. No one on any project worth real money is grading in the Adobe suite. Resolve is nearly always used on every big budget project where the colorist and editor are not the same person, regardless of what program they are using for editing. If your end to end workflow is entirely in the adobe suite, or fcpx, you are still just a youtuber. The fact that resolve includes a great nle and a world class sound suite, and the whole thing is free, is just icing on the cake.
Ikr, I wish I had bought a computer with Linux pre-installed earlier, but sadly i had to stick to Windows without knowing the existence nor feeling of using a desktop based on Linux, I'm just in love with how much freedom and versatility Arch has given me, for example. And now I'm writing my own code in Bash to optimize and speed up some of my jobs!! 🐧🐧💜 I also wished NVidia could give us more of their attention 😢 Or atleast trying again to discuss a way of making their drivers open-source..
I used the galago ultrapro during college. Yes it was a rebranded clevo, but I was very impressed with system 76's dedication to quality. After I received my ultrapro, they decided they didn't like the quality of the keyboard that shipped with it, and so mailed everyone a higher quality one to swap in at no extra cost.
I still have and use mine. The little flap for the ethernet port broke. I sent System76 an email and they sent me one gratis. I bought that computer in 2014 and they still have spare parts!
i imagine when they where taking photos "ow ow take a picture of the dog, that way they will know we're good people and they will trust us with there heart" scary how accurate yup
"Compile Linux kernel"? I've used Linux for years, changed distros several times, and never had to compile Linux (with the obvious exception of Gentoo).
The more deceptive thing is that once you have just a few basic skills, compiling a kernel is really easy, and most distros where custom kernels are considered important make it even easier for you
@@uwu_senpai People that want as much performance as possible (the software is compiled with optimizations for their specific CPU) and people that want software not already compiled for their distribution of Linux. And despite how much it has been built up, if you are a power user then compiling software is actually pretty easy, especially on distributions where it is common for users to do so.
You will be suprised how Linux is similar do MacOS, and most of the people loves MacOS and hates Linux, but in the end both are very similar, Linux is the thing in the world that has more preconception
@@DanielRios549 MacOS is based on the BSD operating system family. Linux and BSD are completely separate projects, yet there are many similiarities between the two unix-like os families. MacOS is a good OS, or at least far better than Windows in basically every aspect. Windows is trash, and belongs to the trash.
I agree fuck linux cause I tried it on my 2009 laptop and it runs like shit. I tried Windows 10 and I expected opposite results but Windows ran way better.
@@BlackPeagas It's less system intense than Windows for most things, so the battery *should* do at least as well as Windows, but it's hard to say since so many things can factor into battery life.
@@BlackPeagas If Linux has all the drivers for your hardware, the battery should last a bit longer than with windows. If some driver that is important for the power management is missing, the power consumption can be much higher than with windows.
You forgot: "Every Thelio sold plants a tree with the Nat'l Forest Foundation" vs Apple's "every Mac sold puts another kid in a sweat-shop and another dollar profit un-taxed & overseas".
Yes, more Linux! So what did we learn today? 1: Linux is the best 2: Valve and Vulkan games run better across AMD and Intel than anything else 3: LTT needs to do more Linux videos
I have to argue with #1 because my grandma doesn't like her PC breaking every 2 weeks because some OSS volunteer didn't get his code peer reviewed right.
TH-cam isn't in English, in Italy. These servers are regional. So you're American or English, in Italy. Why are you so proud of his corporation? Or is that your thing? Do you do this for Wallmart too?
@@rraygen He isn't advocating aardvark rape either. You get neither of our examples make sense as metaphors or similes, right? He is either lying for the likes, so Redditing, or something much more interesting. For example what in their corporate charter at ALL supports Linux? Linus codes at BEST, as well as he fixes Mac products. So, that'd be "shite." But he doesnt pretend to be a software guy either; wait....Linus Unboxing WAS mostly code, Linux actually, now that I think about it.
@@ryanmccullough09 All the specs are downloadable without a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. This means that no matter if you are using Window$, MacOS, BSD, Linux, FreeDOS, or MenuetOS, you can have a driver that is complete. Closed source drivers are to fool the customer, not the competition.
@@ryanmccullough09 From there website "OPTIMIZED BY THELIO IO Thelio Io is a System76 designed chassis controller and hard drive backplane that moves proprietary functionality from the mainboard to the open source Thelio Io daughterboard. Moving chassis and thermal control to Thelio Io enables far more granular performance optimization. Motherboard data, fan speed, and GPU and OS data are used to coordinate optimal airflow. Thelio Massive also includes an open source System76 designed SAS backplane for high performance 2.5” PCIe storage." Would have been cool to see maybe a little more on how it works and how well it works.
@@GabrielTobing I owned it for ~2 years. I moved all of my work to a macbook pro and flipped the 76 on ebay. Now, I'm windows 10 everywhere with windows subsystem running some x11 apps "native" and docker or vmware where necessary for work.
@Julio Caesar Even non native through the likes of Proton or Wine can run faster, it depends on the game of course, a game like Strange Brigade or Doom 2016 that uses Vulkan under the hood will most likely run better on Linux but those that use Direct X like Hitman 2 wil see about a 10 FPS advantage for Windows. www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/03/01/windows-10-versus-linux-6-steam-games-benchmarked-on-intels-hades-canyon-nuc/#20226de278ce However something you barely see in comparison benchmarks is the way faster load times Linux provides, I have only seen this in 1 video that covered this and it was on a Opengl port VS DX11 (this was before DXVK) meaning of course the Windows Version held better performance except for the load times which differed by a full minute on the same hardware. th-cam.com/video/w9S5dZN--xE/w-d-xo.html To give you an idea how far DXVK is, it can run a game almost double it's performance over a native opengl port did as is the case with Dying Light for instance. th-cam.com/video/kKdT3RuL9jQ/w-d-xo.html Switching to Linux is thus fully possible, even running non native games and you can gain some definite advantages for certain use cases.
Glad you're digging it! I come from a kind of Linux first, gaming second perspective, which I understand is more rare. It's encouraging to hear of people for whom gaming is a priority enjoying the switch! I hope the OS continues to reward you as you learn and use it. :-D
So my thoughts here. While this system is probably not cost-effective for enthusiasts, it IS cost-effective for companies or individuals that may write-off their purchase as a corporate expense. Having that level of support means that a company doesn't have to use their high-paid consultants rebuilding their own machines, which in a matter of hours could make up that $1k difference. Likewise, much as is the case made with Macs, it is all about the experience. You have a machine with POP!os installed and no having to configure drivers, or reset dip switches (or BIOS changes) to make things work. It just works. And again, for someone where time is money, that's a trivial expense. What I'd love to see is the high end systems compared. That is where if the difference is only $1K between a high end Dell Workstation and a high end Thelio system on a $5K+ system, then it definitely could be a contender for business folks.
It feels a bit like a modern SGI workstation. It's high end workstation hardware (but not totally custom), in a stylish case (but not indigo), with a workstation OS (but POP!os not IRIX), and enterprise support (but a small team not an empire).
One thing I would disagree on is "not cost-effective for enthusiasts". I would consider myself an enthusiast, and not a deeply invested Linux professional. Few months ago I decided to go with Thelio basic. I am pretty satisfied. For most part I would agree with downsides Linus mentioned. My other two options were build my own PC, or get a Dell Precision workstation desktop. The difference in pricing, between Dell and Sys76, was about $200 to $400 depending on choices I made in a final rig config. Building my own would have been way cheaper. But than I wouldn't get support and I wouldn't have that nicely designed tower.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled What is that "support" that you refer to and find so compelling when buying a pc from Sys76? I, myself, would consider buying a System76 laptop or pc just for their open-source contributions and would put my money same as when I "donate" to other open-source contributors.
That assumes the company needs Linux, which most don't. Particularly not for the bog standard office worker whose likely used to using a Windows product, maybe a Mac at best (which is even more costly, on average). It would also be cheaper to hire a proper IT professional if you have to contact support so much that an extra $1,000 per PC is saving you money.
@@RayBitton the support means that you can contact System 76 support team for any problem you can have and get I quick answer and great service. If your warranty have not expired they would do hardware chango if necessary as you would expect but even if it's expired they will assist you and do their best to fix your problem. I speak from personal experience since I own S76 laptop
I don't think the intended market here is replacement of desktops for the average user. More like a workstation. I could really see this looking attractive to a tech savvy research lab in academia. I do bioinformatics, and the higher end specs of these would make for a great dev box. This makes a lot of sense especially for a research group with only one or two people doing computational work, and the rest do more traditional wet-lab stuff. Most universities have HPC systems you can log into but it's cumbersome to do iterative work on those systems. However, most of the data is larger than you want to use your personal machine for. Also, 99% of research computing happens in a linux environment with open source software.
Yeah this would fit right in, in my polytechnic colleges' CAD and work shops. They already run outdated linux boxes because the upkeep budget on them got slashed, so something like this might actually work well for them. Try getting old-timers to give up what their used to LOL, might be futile.
@@smorrow Interesting. Only seen a handful of macs around here, like 1 person in over 5 labs uses a mac. Most folks either a) stick to win systems and mostly send mail/browse/use statistica or excel or matlab or whatever or b) use whatever their lab hardware manufacturer gave them or c) run some linux distro if they write code any much.
Unfortunuately it looks like System 76 might give "normies" the wrong impression about Linux though. My Gran (or most of my mates) watching this: Ooh! Linux systems are a $1000 more expensive than Windows systems!?! I'll just get Little Johnny a PS4 for his birthday.
@@NonEventHorizon A gran is something else, usually younger people know already that Linux is free. From my experience at least. Also normies wouldn't see a difference between this PC and other except the case and the price, so no, they wouldn't say "it costs 1000$ more than a windows PC" unless they have watched this video.
@@NonEventHorizon I mean yeah, but you could get a $200 windows laptop that runs terribly and just wipe the drive and install POP! OS or some other version of Linux on it for free. It would run way better, and would probably take all of 15mins to set-up (if you know what you're doing). Besides, nothing can beat the gaming value of a console anyways - even a low-end windows gaming laptop. They're meant for different markets at the sub-$1000 pricepoint.
@@sanjacobs6261 Pop!_OS is actually a great Linux distro. And if you want to use another distro, you can just put it on a USB drive and install it. But at that point, you might also just build your own PC.
@@EddieKMusicI'm also coming from experience. I've been using Linux since 08', I'm comfortable here. Zero interest in going to back to Mac OS and even less going to Windows.
@@EddieKMusic It's normal I guess you don't need Linux in your case, cause you're a producer. I am interested in producing too so I can't use Ableton or FL Studio on Linux. But I dual boot on my PC with Linux Manjaro and Windows. You can do this too if you're interested on using Linux just for other things and Windows for producing. BTW Love your songs keep it up dude what genre is that Progressive House or Psy-trance?
Hum... the Internet depends on linux... Google depends on it... Even major Windows game titles use Linux servers on their backend to deliver the multiplayer experience reliably.
I think giants like Windows will eventually be forced to steal their operating system back from the clutches of advertisers. Soon, the average consumer will have a plethora of equally competent open-source options, all with little to no downsides; which Windows and Apple should be very _very_ afraid of.
マッドルースター True. A lot of it is about accessibility; most people would love to get the computer out of the way and get to their work/content. It’s great that Linux is becoming more accessible to more people.
I haven't compiled a kernel in years. Only had to do that for my funky hardware way back then (late 90's, early to mid 00's). Was running old PowerPC gear until I jumped ship to x86 based gear.
And as someone who grew up in the same ecosystem since the iMac G3 days (I had base model for my first personal computer that I shared with my older sister), I find it equally as appealing for it's upgradability. I even tried Pop os myself during some distro hopping and it's pretty nice, even with the Gnome desktop being a little slow and scaling a little weird on my laptop's screen.
@@desther7975 As a long-time Linux user, Mac drives me nuts. I get the supposed polish aspect, but using macOS means sacrificing way too much control for me. And the way software is managed on it is too ad-hoc, not automated enough, and there's not enough open-source.
@@xchanghox Thanks for the reference to Chris Titus Tech's channel! The sight of a happy Linux noob (especially when they're really diving in and learning) always warms a longtime Linux user's heart :-D
Fire_Silicon he’s talking more about his wrong views on Linux. He means building and compiling the Linux kernel on top of GNU. He’s meaning selecting repos and compiling. None of which anyone has to do these days unless they choose too
Seems like a good alternative to Apple, for those people that get Apple stuff as a “stylish” computer, that isn't likely to get infected with malware. (I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think there is a far smaller volume of malware on the Internet, that's designed with Linux in mind. I don't think I've ever heard of any, in fact.) Apple likes their high price tags, too. But unlike Apple, the business model for these PCs isn't toxic, and will likely result in lower costs over time, as they get more business, since they'll have more money to invest in efficiency. Not to mention that just remaining in business over time will likely reduce their costs a little, as they will have developed stuff for their products that can be reused, like skills, software, hardware, design aesthetics, and facilities. Although cost reductions due to that, will likely have diminishing returns, as the costs for that stuff is heavier at the beginning of a business, and they will need to maintain what they have, and develop new, updated things. And remember: your paying for someone to do the work of setting up the system, and getting it to run decently. So even if you know how to do it yourself, it will still cost you time. And time is money. Though the time of different people has different values.
about Linux and Viruses: they are rare (although most servers run Linux these days), but the main reason you don't hear about them is that they are rare and they get patched very quickly, most of the time most machines already have the patch on their machines before the reporters wrote their article lulz
@@kuhluhOG. Biggest thing is that Linux distros distribute most of the things you need, wheras on other systems, you need to download stuff from the web, enabling others to fool you into installing bad things.
@@kuhluhOG exploits are not always patched and only are fixed instantly for you if you're on arch Linux otherwise you're waiting 6 months. So you need to have a good firewall setup and use a vpn at a bare minimum
@@DeadBaron ppl like system76 need our support to make their products cheaper. Its not easy to provide the kind of experience they provide if they don't have money to do it
Ive got a couple System 76 via work and have built multiple at home. I have been so impressed with their systems and love to support a great company. It's not Apple margins for sure so it's worth it to me.
@@DeadBaron Only well built laptops deserve you paying the design cost (not standard Clevo parts for certain). These PCs with standard parts thrown together deserve 0 money from me.
You missed the crucial info that System76 in their firmware fixes the Intel ME issue by disabling/removing it - that alone is worth few hundred $$$ and for some folks could be priceless..
@@matemana1991 you're nitpicking, it doesn't change the fact that it is disabled out off the box and for privacy concerned non-techie people it's a big deal.
Love the Linux content and especially love the system76 content . I only buy system 76 laptops and I would buy their desktops if I wasn't so in love with building my own!
Eric Nutter How are the trackpads on their laptops? I’m used to the one on the 2015 MacBook Pro (which I’ve been running pop os on for a few months). A lot of trackpads on windows laptops just aren’t up to snuff. The drivers in pop are quite excellent, so I figure it won’t be much of an issue.
I don´t really get why people always claim linux is so hard to use. I am not a Linux user and every time I used it, it was very similar to using Windows. Anyone that is a basic user surfing the web or working in Office would hardly notice a difference. Since my workload is mostly web development related that wasn´t much different either because of the heavy reliance on Linux in that industry. I think if you stuck your grandparants on a Linux PC with one of the user friendly distros they would call you less than if you put them on Windows.
Linux is awesome i learnt so much over the 3 years i used it, now using the terminal often.even learning basic commands is not so hard one could learn enough to be comfortable with it
Putting my grandparents on CloudReady (basically ChromeOS) is the best decision I've ever made. Putting them on an easy Linux would've been good, but ChromeOS is incredibly hard to fuck up.
There certainly are hard to use distros of Linux, but that's a gigantic strawman to extrapolate that to all of them. I said above that something like Ubuntu is actually easier to install in a lot of ways than Windows is.
Linux is "hard" to use because it has some different philosophies. When you use Linux you are bound to encounter the command line(since the basic commands are everywhere the same). When you use an OS that obfscates the commands used via a GUI it can be pretty nerve wrecking. What is sudo, cp, mv, rm,&,&&. When you now need to dig through 5 things to just get a simple idea of what the script is doing it can be offputting. If you use Linux you are deterined to find something cool and want to use it too. Jokes on you your distro doesn't have the latest packages. better build from source or try to get apt download from testing (which seems more unstable than it is). I know all of this is not difficult but it always requires a commitment to do it. When you have a problem with Windows you know one person who will help you with your problem. When you use Linux lets hope you RTFM or find either a blog post. That doesn't expect you wear a black belt in commandline-fu Everytime I switch someone to Linux they get a Commandline Tutorial! What are man pages, what are the basic commands. I create with them their first useless script(update and upgrade). Just so their fear of the commandline is gone.
I love it. Best choice for people without tech knowledge and good design taste. Btw. good complete (Win based) PCs from other well known companies aren't very cheaper.
They are doing great work Pop_OS is an amazing distro especially if you're running high end hardware. With Threadripper the OS manages everything perfectly and gives amazing performance.
I bought one of their laptops 6 years ago and it still works well. I am not as technically savy as most Linux enthusiast and their technical support was a huge plus for me, like seriously good. I would recommend this company.
@@applemirer3937 the phone will come out in Q4. obviously it won't be with flagship components as it is mostly open hardware, running a pure Linux distro upon it (which mean the ability to run desktop software), with hardware kill switches for privacy, etc.. I do not fear the lack of apps like in the Windows Phone because first you can dev for free and many apps can run without being dev for the tel. It has also only got 2gb of RAM if I recall correctly but that's fine because it will be lighter than Android
@@bigpod it's not just a case of "boo hoo look at us we have privacy", they use components that are as open as possible and open-source all of their firmware and software so people can vet them.
I hope Doggo answers all the support calls. He wouldn't be able to give much help, but I wouldn't be angry about anything after getting off the phone with Doggo.
A few days ago I took my father's old laptop and installed Arch Linux on it. He is a Mechanical Engineer and he was in need for a SolidWorks/CAD software alternative so I did a simple search in the command line and found a very similar software - freeCAD. So now... My father leaves his Windows computer on the shelf and his daily driver is a Linux machine. He is proudly saying: "I use arch, btw".
@@wockeyfilm Helping the channel by immediately clicking the video when we get a bell icon notification and playing the video in the background on our phones to help the video succeed. It was mentioned in the last WAN Show.
I love what System76 is doing and enjoy the laptop I have from them. I doubt I get one of their desktops since I build my own but I am a fan. Also love how they stick to their product naming theme.
7:02 "Honestly, I think a Noctua or a BeQuiet fans swap would help tremendously here." So... Would it help? Because, y'know, one of the two of us can validate that while the other can't :D Although I would guess that the "slide over" cover makes that racket.
Pop! OS has become very popular in the Linux community. Their fan-base on the hardware side is growing as well and rightly so, they have great support and make a quality product from every review I have watched. To your points about compiling the kernel etc. those days are long gone, most distros are a breeze to install and set up. Very good and fair review.
@@MrWinston1337 To be honest, you get that kind of pricing when the production volume is small, and it is a niche product, for which unfortunately, the most of the people wouldn't care owning. If they did, the production numbers would've been larger and the price would've been cheaper
I use DaVinci Resolve Studio, Blender, GIMP and other software on my Linux system for professional video production and absolutely love it and would highly recommend it!
I would say that, while its true that system76 is bringing Linux to normies, it's also a lot more than that: its making GNU and open source software not just accessible, but desirable. The case is a work of art, for crying out loud, system76 are enthusiasts doing their damnedest to make not using majority closed source trendy, and I think they are really starting to succeed.
@@epiccollision what is ugly for you, for someone else might be beautiful, you don't speak the absolute truth, and saying it's ugly doesn't makes it ugly for everyone, also a prop design doesn't need to be an absolute masterpiece to look like one under certain environment designs. What you're talking about is subjective
I can't believe windows doesn't have some kind of package manager. Just pasting apt-get X into a terminal is so much nicer than searching around for some dumbass .exe file.
I dunno, most sites will flat out just give you an .exe or .msi file to download your software. I've used both Linux and Windows and installation of software on Windows is far easier for me than having to open the terminal. Not to mention that Linux requires an internet connection to use apt get while on Windows you can put the exe on a thumb drive or something and just run it from there.
I didn't realize System76 was doing all this with a small team of people. That in of itself is really impressive considering what they've been able to put together and release. Makes me want to buy one of their PCs just to support them. :)
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i dont have it myself but this video could use an eplispy warning.
Linux Tech Tips
Where is msi dragon now
It's a nice looking box but speaking as someone who of necessity has struggled with Linux for 25+ years, and sincerely hates the OS, I really don't get who this is for...
IMO people who use Linux fall in to one of two categorises:
-Those who have to use it on occasion, and sincerely hate it for the horrible and unintuitive mess that it is in all it's forms once you scratch below the semi-inviting surface - proof you can polish a turd... but a turd is still a turd no matter how well buffed it is.
-Those who get a kick out of being the master of the magic that is unintelligible to mere mortals.
The former, like me, are probably using and designing custom hardware and are often saddled with Linux simply because it and it's dev tools are free and available. The latter would never buy an off the shelf system because building your own rig is all part of the magic-nerd persona.
So a 'normal' user buy's this system and finds they can't do their 'normal' stuff with it... what next? Start down the rabbit hole of many, many, scattered and unintuitive config files and the unhappy necessity of a command line when such a paradigm was dropped by everyone else 20+ years ago in the hope of getting it to do the things they want? All while running the gauntlet of the RTFM brigade when confusion inevitably results in their asking questions?
I would expect anyone unfortunate to buy one of these systems, either by mistake or because they actually want to get in to Linux but have already demonstrated their 'lack the fortitude' to even build their own system, will quickly shout "Nope!" and either sling the whole thing in a cupboard and go buy a 'proper PC' or bung a less aggravating OS on it.
A couple years ago I was at my grandma's house to use her printer and I got on her PC and it had Linux on it. I couldn't figure out how to navigate it so my grandma had to teach me how to use Linux...
your grandma is a proud woman
Your grandma is more of a gamer than you are lmao
Yo grans better than us windows/mac noobs
You shall bake HER cookies now mister !!
love it i am a grandfather and the only one in my family using Linux.
LOL. Go grandma! How old is she, and how long has she interacted with computers? She might have an affinity for Linux because it’s an open source reinterpretation of UNIX, the mainframe operating system used everywhere in the 80’s (I think, my dates are always whack).
Linus should use Linux for a month like he did with an iMac, it would be really interesting imo
Edit: Guess they'll finally be doing it. Can't wait!
He'd probably be complaining about the lack of the whole stack of proprietary software they need to run their business. Understandable of course, but not exactly a typical use case
@@Gaming4LifeDE Well as far as I remember, when he did the "iSwitched to Mac" series, he reviewed it as if he was a regular user or something like that. Like he didn't try to do video editing on it(though that's something very doable in Linux). Anyways, I'm not a Linux user myself, but it would still be interesting to see such a video, at least to me.
@@vesk4000 I gave up on M$ in 2009 and never looked back. Linux Mint Mate has got to be the most polished and dead-easiest distro there is. It even comes with it's own software manager for installing most-used programs. Yes, there's a lot of proprietary software out there that only runs on M$ but you can say the same about Mac-only software, too. Kdenlive is a free and open-source video editing software if that's your thing....and though I consider myself still a "basic" user, I've been able to dabble in Linux enough to get things to work without any huge issues. I'm self-employed as a residential computer tech and I can honestly say that I want to kiss this PC when I get home after a looooong day of troubleshooting all of the M$ disasters I see.
@@tracylf5409 if you're gaming, I'd suggest windows 7 with security patches and remove some "spyware" idk. its just faster to run games on windows bc of the optimization is good (english is not my first language)
Edit: windows update made me lose my shit
@@lad2987 Linux is doing very well in the gaming area these days.
Installing Linux is easier than windows if you pick something like pop os. I don't think even 99% of Linux users have ever compiled a kernel either.
true i have used linux for years and never did that.
POP OS was the first time i had to patch my kernel to operate some RGB devices drivers.
Even compiling Linux kernel is pretty easy now, not that I want people to compile it if they don't need to.
I have .. but not for ... decades...
Windows has never been difficult to install 🤔
The System 76 is a Concept headed in the right Direction. I have POP OS on my Computer and have not had any Problems what so ever, I wish the System 76 Team the Best of Luck.
What's the point in Linux? What is it for?
@@John-X The Point is to have more options for Operating Systems other than Windows Apple and Android, and its much more Private. Most Linux OS's do not sell your info and keep Tabs on everything you Type or sites you visit
@@STONE69_ Oh. But I mean what does it matter if your ISP still knows everything you do and sells your data? Even VPN's still see what you do and sell your data.
@@John-X I'm in Canada, my ISP does not sell anyones info but do keep certain info. Its much different in the USA but Linux along with a VPN does help a lot except when you sign in to Google etc
@@STONE69_ I'm not trying to being douche or a contrarian, but I mean Canada is part of the Five Eyes which is five countries (CAN, USA, NZ, AUS, UK) which all have their own NSA (Canada's being CSEC). They all trade each other's information on all of us. You don't think Bell and Roger's are part of the Canadian government?
MOAR LINUX CONTENT
My only gripe is how Linus described installing Linux, a lot of distributions have made it very easy. I've never had to compile my own kernel.
I've never had to compile anything to install Linux (Exept Gentoo, of course...)
It's just as, if not easier, to install some of the more user friendly distros of Linux than it is to install Windows. In fact, it's what I tend to do when I have an otherwise perfectly find system, without a a paid for OS.
Raspberry pis are very easy to set up. Tho they can be quite daunting for non pc people, a quick look on the Internet will help.
It's almost like Linux is for turbo nerds that have been saying *this* is the year of Linux on the desktop for the last 30 years.
I know right? I've been a GNU/Linux user for over 15 years and I wouldn't even know where to begin to compile Linux.
"Wood grain finish"
LGR: *[heavy breathing]*
Lol this^
lol
I scrolled down expecting to see the first LGR comment, and it didn't take much scrolling.
welcome to a LGR thing!
Durable outer casing to prevent fall apart! comb.io/8PPSW7
What is LGR?
I like the woodgrain. Must be an LGR edition.
ugh ... As an old developer I don't like his style. He has so little respect for the efforts of those who paved the way (often with costly failures) for the amazing tech world we live in today.
@@davidaustin6962 I know this is old, but could you elaborate?
@@user-xn3kt6bn5r LGR ridicules a lot of tech that at the time was pretty bleeding edge stuff so of course a lot of it was glitchy or may have seemed hokey relative to the amazing tech at our disposal today. To me, an inventive entrepreneur, that is seriously uncool. I'd rather someone say "Hey it's pretty lousy compared to what we get today, bit it was the only thing like it, it kinda worked, and nothing else was that good at the time, but don't expect to be wowed today". He's more likely to just call early tech as gimmicky and a waste.
@@davidaustin6962 you're not giving any examples
@@technoturnovers7072 you don't have to believe me. I'm not going to try and convince you.
"... bring Linux to folks who can't be bothered to compile their kernel and hunt down repos"?
Check your calendar - it's no longer 1995.
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In all fairness while you are required less and less to hunt down repos and build from source let's no kid ourselves Linux does require that a lot more. Linux drivers can be a hit or miss given that the kernel does not priotize backward compatibility like Windows does. So less issues with drivers than Linux although the lack of driver isn't Linux fault. They are both good Windows and Linux. I am not a fan boy. Also Linus was just being tongue and cheek here. He wasn't being literal.
@@monsterhunter445 I've been using Linux as my only desktop OS since like '07? and the last time I had any driver issues was like 12 years ago I think with a broadcom wifi card and the last time I compiled a kernel was to see if I could squeeze any more performance out of my CR-48 original Chromebook back in like 2011. (It didn't matter really at all. It just made the kernel a couple MB's smaller, not any faster). I mean really unless you're running bleeding edge or weird hardware everything should basically just work.
@no, as a matter of fact The statement was about drivers and hardware just working as expected. It had nothing to do with user software.
@no, as a matter of fact With the advances in Wine given all the effort that Valve and others have been putting into it lately, chances are that that odd .exe file from 06 years ago could work right outta the bat with little to no fiddling needed. Sometimes perfectly, sometimes with minor glitches. I keep getting surprised all the time with these little Windows utilities that you can simply click on setup.exe, click Next-Next-Finish and then launch it as if you were running Windows XP or something along these lines.
They did it totally right, we need a well-put-together machine made for Linux. As many people said it already, please do more Linux content!
System76 is like Origin, but for the Linux community.
My only complaint about system76 is the replacement part cost for the laptop my cat fried a few years ago.
@@ThalassTKynn
Your cat knows how to cook?!
@@ThalassTKynn what part?
as we all know linus is still trying to hide that him and torvalds are actually the same person, so he can't do more linux content
As a Linux fanboy I love what System 76 is doing and I'm glad the review well.
Yea me too. I wish Linux was more mainstream. I hope they can bring down the prices some because I feel that might be a turn off for some people. I can see how it is necessary though when it is such small scale production. They also need more case options because the wood grain would is not something most teens would buy so they are Alienating the young crowd who could be life long customers.
This is what you have to do Linus,
Make a video “trying Linux for a day”
And show what using Linux everyday is like
Edit: Linux is not like windows, almost all the software is free and open source and you can customize anything you want to
but then for a week
I can inform you, using linux, you instantly notice everything is easier and faster to use, games and apps run faster, there are always alternatives to everything, and if you are a programmer, you can download the code for most apps and add features yourself and even send the code back so the developer can merge your code into theirs.
I switched from Windows to linux recently. Literally nothing is different.
Now that'd be a video to see! Entire editing den, along w/ everyone else in bldg have USB drives stuck in back of their systems w/ the boot drive "missing..."
Maybe let diff people use different distros to show how the same Kernel can run vastly different systems..?
@thegeorgezila exactly! Of showing the LMG crew doing their daily work on Linux doesn't bring exposure of the Kernel's POWER to light, even for Win hardcore users then I don't know what would do it...
*Might feel a bit for Anthony though, needing to support everyone when they just so happened to screw something up somehow...
I'm glad you assumed we use Gentoo.
me in debian: haha yes compile gentoo!
Me in gentoo: yes please
I was thinking linux from scratch
I’m a windows user, but I’ve been experimenting with learning Linux (Zorin OS through VirtualBox at the moment) and MacOS (Catalina through VirtualBox). I feel like on some distros, like Zorin or Mint, anyone moderately skilled with Windows can run Linux without much effort and with a bit of googling.
I mean I do lmfao
Thank you for being so positive when explaining the 1000 dollar difference. Linux may be free of use, but there are people working on it. People usually forget that. For me, a Linux user, it's a matter of paying what I believe it's right. And System76 is opening everything they can (their business secret, including the CAD files) to improve the overall Linux community and for free for everyone else.
And seeing such comparison in performance made me remember why I switched to Linux in the first place: raw performance.
Windows it's too bloated comparing to Linux and it's less efficient, as proven in this video. Gaming performance is a matter of Linux support by game developers, as the worst games had the overhead caused by Proton.
I suspect the performance gap will close once AMD launch that new chipset driver that is supposed to fix the Windows sheduler. But still, I was shocked to see the difference on my Ryzen laptop. browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/12574838?baseline=12217175
Although even Intel seems to run better on Linux. browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/12681914?baseline=12682041
Of course the actual experience is not necessarily the same. Firefox still runs better on Windows as the new hardware acceleration is not quite there yet, especially on nVidia where I can't seem to prevent screen tearing.
Gaming performance is mainly down to OpenGL vs DirectX on Win. Vulkan is getting wider support, and often games run better on Linux with Vulkan than on Win with Vulkan.
I believe Linux is superior to Windows, the advantage of Windows is software support. I have 2 systems, the one with lower specs runs Linux yet is noticeably snappier than the Windows one.
1000 dollar difference, that's fine, think of it as a father large donation to the team developing this.
1000 dollar difference for a case that is loud, has worse thermals than any other case, can't fit 3.5 drives and a non removable motherboard backplate so no possibility of upgrading in the future? Nah, I'm good thanks.
@@alexatkin had problems with tearing too. It's Nvidia DRM screwing up
I think the flickering background is a little too distracting, good vid though, thanks
True dat
Yeah, struggled focusing on the PC for a while there
A little is an understatement. That was awful.
yeah wtf
I didn't notice
Linus really is going down the penguin hole. I always liked your content, Linus, but now you're putting the cherry on the cake :D
The strawberry*. (=ↀωↀ=)
>going down the penguin hole
OwO
A non-English speaker would not have any idea what you're trying to say here :)
@@zaphenath6756 I think even some English speakers wouldn't even know.
@@zaphenath6756 Ok now i'm confused, LOL.
9:56 The doggo is the MVP dev
Lmao XD
A doggo that can code
Lol
@@Smart.Potato he's robotic
9:57 that dog is my best developer of this OS.
Puppy Linux?
@@themasterofdisastr1226 yes but no... :-)
9:57 - 9:58 for me,
Else was a lil confused at first
the goodest developer
@@syth-1 yep it's 9:57. I don't know why, but TH-cam showed me that value. Now I will fix it. Thanks.
"and welcome to an LGR thing..."
Because wood grain
Clint approves
Literally the first thing I thought of when I saw the thumbnail.
Was not expecting to see the retro tech community appear on this video
Greetings
Never had to compile anything on Linux
Only had to compile my own projects and when I've wanted a bleeding edge release of something
Linux is not difficult to use these days! 🙃
@@roylastname9367 I have done as well, but my point was that I didn't have to 😀 Sometimes bleeding edge gets you nice things!
Even if you do need to build from source, it's not like it's difficult or requires any developer knowledge. Usually you run a couple make commands and you're done.
If your source files are good and don't have any weird dependency issues, "./configure && make && sudo make install" is the only thing you have to do 😀
Not difficult until you can't get a driver to work properly
I agree. Pop OS is replacing Ubuntu. Seriously, I installed it on my Lenovo Miix 320 tablet and touch works better than Windows!
Davinci Resolve, is not just an industry leading color grading software, but also a fully fledged NLE, VFX compositer and DAW, with lots of people switching over from premiere or final cut x, so its a really big deal that it is available for linux, cos you basically don’t need anything else.
@intrnl Resolve is color grading software first. No one on any project worth real money is grading in the Adobe suite. Resolve is nearly always used on every big budget project where the colorist and editor are not the same person, regardless of what program they are using for editing. If your end to end workflow is entirely in the adobe suite, or fcpx, you are still just a youtuber.
The fact that resolve includes a great nle and a world class sound suite, and the whole thing is free, is just icing on the cake.
Love that companies are realizing that Linux is not just the “free option”.
but it is
@@AnimeFanBadAsS Emphasis on "free as in freedom".
Prawny not as in free beer
Ikr, I wish I had bought a computer with Linux pre-installed earlier, but sadly i had to stick to Windows without knowing the existence nor feeling of using a desktop based on Linux, I'm just in love with how much freedom and versatility Arch has given me, for example. And now I'm writing my own code in Bash to optimize and speed up some of my jobs!! 🐧🐧💜 I also wished NVidia could give us more of their attention 😢 Or atleast trying again to discuss a way of making their drivers open-source..
@@AnimeFanBadAsSnot "just" the free option.
I used the galago ultrapro during college. Yes it was a rebranded clevo, but I was very impressed with system 76's dedication to quality. After I received my ultrapro, they decided they didn't like the quality of the keyboard that shipped with it, and so mailed everyone a higher quality one to swap in at no extra cost.
I still have and use mine. The little flap for the ethernet port broke. I sent System76 an email and they sent me one gratis. I bought that computer in 2014 and they still have spare parts!
Now that's what I call good customer service
9:09 Also worth mentioning that they’ve disabled the Intel Management Engine.
Wtf! This is big! Why didn't I k ow about it?
Lol that’s the only reason I watched this video...wanted to hear more about System76 removing the IME.
Not entirely, I think
@@sanjacobs6261 its "neutered", so not fully removed, but basically is
they what?!?!?!
how
"compiling and finding repos from the ground up"
age old
linux stereotype
Right? Sounded like the last distro he tried came on a dvd included in a magazine over a decade ago, or something.
Yeah, it seems he doesn't know what he is talking about. 😕
For the most part, you are right. But for older tools, that are not really commercial, you still have make install.
@@diptarkadas5193 ok, so 99% of the time, you don't need to do much
All I do is download and use something like UUI to flash my selected distro to a USB drive... Not entirely sure what Linus was talking about.
YES! A SYSTEM76 VIDEO. I mainly use their laptops for compatibility and customization, and I love my laptop of 5 years!
Heck yeah, more Linux content please!
Yes, please!
As a next video I want more comparisons to Windows!
Maybe a Linux Tech Tips sub channel? Lol, just kidding. But yeah, more Linux content would be great!
Deepin Linux or arch Linux review
"Compile a kernel"??? No dude, it isn't 1997.
People still do it for security's sake. Also, it's very common to hear about it in the Linux community even when you ask around casually.
@@ShiroKage009 yeah but you don't "have to".
He was using it as an argument for not moving to Linux...
gentoo still exists
@@jerryh559 The main barrier to entry is how often you have to mess with the terminal for shit like installing dependencies and fixing permissions.
Ya that comment surprised me as well.
They have a dog in their staff... So I trust them with my heart.
Depends on his position...
i imagine when they where taking photos
"ow ow take a picture of the dog, that way they will know we're good people and they will trust us with there heart"
scary how accurate yup
I bet he's their best programmer.
I'm very glad you're reviewing System 76 Linux FTW!
If everything for windows was just as easy to use for linux id zwitch over in a second
What does FTW mean? i always forget.
Yes I am fake I don't remember how to change the profile picture,who cares
Apple is supperior wtf
@@qwerasdfhjkio for the win
@@qwerasdfhjkio "FTW" means "For The Win."
"Compile Linux kernel"? I've used Linux for years, changed distros several times, and never had to compile Linux (with the obvious exception of Gentoo).
I always thought Gentoo was a troll. Like who compile their software? x)
I've being using linux for about a year now and I've never compiled a kernel nor a single program. 😂
It goes to show how misunderstood Linux is. You could get Ubuntu (and its derivatives) running on any PC quicker than Windows.
The more deceptive thing is that once you have just a few basic skills, compiling a kernel is really easy, and most distros where custom kernels are considered important make it even easier for you
@@uwu_senpai People that want as much performance as possible (the software is compiled with optimizations for their specific CPU) and people that want software not already compiled for their distribution of Linux. And despite how much it has been built up, if you are a power user then compiling software is actually pretty easy, especially on distributions where it is common for users to do so.
I need to look more into this side of the tech world. There's much more out there than Mac vs Windows that I know absolutely nothing about.
You'll soon find how deep the rabbit hole goes.. and love it.
You will be suprised how Linux is similar do MacOS, and most of the people loves MacOS and hates Linux, but in the end both are very similar, Linux is the thing in the world that has more preconception
@@DanielRios549 MacOS is based on the BSD operating system family. Linux and BSD are completely separate projects, yet there are many similiarities between the two unix-like os families. MacOS is a good OS, or at least far better than Windows in basically every aspect. Windows is trash, and belongs to the trash.
@@lambdanil Yeah, I said both are similar, MacOS is based on BSD and this make it very similar do Linux.
When you go down that rabbit hole you will never come out. Theres so much more to computers than mac os and windows
Definitely here for more Linux content, as a Pop_OS user it's nice seeing a video on it!
I agree fuck linux cause I tried it on my 2009 laptop and it runs like shit. I tried Windows 10 and I expected opposite results but Windows ran way better.
@@RedPMD good troll, mate.
@@knightofy333schua8 Nope I have it on a separate HDD. Windows runs better. And yes the HDDs are the same rpm.
@@knightofy333schua8 Ubuntu. Its awful. Only poor shit heads use linux.
@@RedPMDtry zorin os. its more similar to windows and it also has a lite version that is meant for old hardware
I really wanted to assemble that one because I knew it was going to you, but my tech lead did it. Thanks for the nice review!
You work for System 76?
@@ZeusAbhijeet Yeah
If you want to learn... Move to Arch
@@cadhlakai Is there an actual dog working there?
I've got POP!_OS installed on my laptop and I really like how clean and simple it is.
How is the battery ? I was thinking about installing it on my uni laptop, but not sure.
@@BlackPeagas It's less system intense than Windows for most things, so the battery *should* do at least as well as Windows, but it's hard to say since so many things can factor into battery life.
@@BlackPeagas If Linux has all the drivers for your hardware, the battery should last a bit longer than with windows. If some driver that is important for the power management is missing, the power consumption can be much higher than with windows.
@@Puma2535 Yeah. The older the Thinkpad/Lenovo and the more AMD or Intel the HW is, the more likely it is that your system will have all drivers.
Its really great and battery is better than what it was for me on lenovo IdeaPad 320 (shitty laptop btw)
You forgot: "Every Thelio sold plants a tree with the Nat'l Forest Foundation" vs Apple's "every Mac sold puts another kid in a sweat-shop and another dollar profit un-taxed & overseas".
I'm a linux user and a big fan of system 76, never saw that point of view before, now I like them even more.
Where does Thelio get their PC components? Heaven?
@@vincentpatrick886 yes
Hahaha
Yeah, all this electronics is still made in Asia probably.
Yes, more Linux!
So what did we learn today?
1: Linux is the best
2: Valve and Vulkan games run better across AMD and Intel than anything else
3: LTT needs to do more Linux videos
And windows suck..
(Windows left the chat)
lol
Windows is BS period
I have to argue with #1 because my grandma doesn't like her PC breaking every 2 weeks because some OSS volunteer didn't get his code peer reviewed right.
Hey guys, really appreciate for supporting the Linux community ❤️. Lots of support from Italy 😁😉
TH-cam isn't in English, in Italy. These servers are regional. So you're American or English, in Italy.
Why are you so proud of his corporation? Or is that your thing? Do you do this for Wallmart too?
@@dr.zahalka8873 bruh chill, is not like he's defending bad pasta recipes right now
@@rraygen He isn't advocating aardvark rape either. You get neither of our examples make sense as metaphors or similes, right?
He is either lying for the likes, so Redditing, or something much more interesting. For example what in their corporate charter at ALL supports Linux? Linus codes at BEST, as well as he fixes Mac products. So, that'd be "shite." But he doesnt pretend to be a software guy either; wait....Linus Unboxing WAS mostly code, Linux actually, now that I think about it.
Should have talked about the open source daughter board that handles storage Linus. Would have been cool to get your take
Well you just saved me 11mins and 49 secs of my life. Tanx man! Hahah
Looked liked a standard backplane. What else is there to talk about?
@@ryanmccullough09 All the specs are downloadable without a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. This means that no matter if you are using Window$, MacOS, BSD, Linux, FreeDOS, or MenuetOS, you can have a driver that is complete. Closed source drivers are to fool the customer, not the competition.
those are words I know... in an order that I dont...
@@ryanmccullough09
From there website "OPTIMIZED BY THELIO IO
Thelio Io is a System76 designed chassis controller and hard drive backplane that moves proprietary functionality from the mainboard to the open source Thelio Io daughterboard.
Moving chassis and thermal control to Thelio Io enables far more granular performance optimization. Motherboard data, fan speed, and GPU and OS data are used to coordinate optimal airflow.
Thelio Massive also includes an open source System76 designed SAS backplane for high performance 2.5” PCIe storage."
Would have been cool to see maybe a little more on how it works and how well it works.
Who the hell thought "flickering tv" was a good backdrop idea? I've got a damn migraine now.
Same :/
I've owned a system 76 laptop and I highly recommend it, if linux is your thing.
What happened to it?
@@GabrielTobing I owned it for ~2 years. I moved all of my work to a macbook pro and flipped the 76 on ebay. Now, I'm windows 10 everywhere with windows subsystem running some x11 apps "native" and docker or vmware where necessary for work.
@@tbranch227 Oof.
I switched to Linux for gaming and all. So far I'm very impressed. (Bring more Linux Content!)
@Julio Caesar Native Linux games run way faster that on Windows. I have a 3 fold performance improvement in Minecraft.
@June Kreps Not going to lie, that 500fps mark on minecraft is making me really curious. Maybe I need to try Linux one day
@Julio Caesar Even non native through the likes of Proton or Wine can run faster, it depends on the game of course, a game like Strange Brigade or Doom 2016 that uses Vulkan under the hood will most likely run better on Linux but those that use Direct X like Hitman 2 wil see about a 10 FPS advantage for Windows.
www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/03/01/windows-10-versus-linux-6-steam-games-benchmarked-on-intels-hades-canyon-nuc/#20226de278ce
However something you barely see in comparison benchmarks is the way faster load times Linux provides, I have only seen this in 1 video that covered this and it was on a Opengl port VS DX11 (this was before DXVK) meaning of course the Windows Version held better performance except for the load times which differed by a full minute on the same hardware.
th-cam.com/video/w9S5dZN--xE/w-d-xo.html
To give you an idea how far DXVK is, it can run a game almost double it's performance over a native opengl port did as is the case with Dying Light for instance.
th-cam.com/video/kKdT3RuL9jQ/w-d-xo.html
Switching to Linux is thus fully possible, even running non native games and you can gain some definite advantages for certain use cases.
Glad you're digging it! I come from a kind of Linux first, gaming second perspective, which I understand is more rare. It's encouraging to hear of people for whom gaming is a priority enjoying the switch! I hope the OS continues to reward you as you learn and use it. :-D
@@user-no3tu9kh3p By native I mean for games that are not specifically développed for Windows but that include Minecraft too.
So my thoughts here.
While this system is probably not cost-effective for enthusiasts, it IS cost-effective for companies or individuals that may write-off their purchase as a corporate expense. Having that level of support means that a company doesn't have to use their high-paid consultants rebuilding their own machines, which in a matter of hours could make up that $1k difference.
Likewise, much as is the case made with Macs, it is all about the experience. You have a machine with POP!os installed and no having to configure drivers, or reset dip switches (or BIOS changes) to make things work. It just works.
And again, for someone where time is money, that's a trivial expense.
What I'd love to see is the high end systems compared. That is where if the difference is only $1K between a high end Dell Workstation and a high end Thelio system on a $5K+ system, then it definitely could be a contender for business folks.
It feels a bit like a modern SGI workstation. It's high end workstation hardware (but not totally custom), in a stylish case (but not indigo), with a workstation OS (but POP!os not IRIX), and enterprise support (but a small team not an empire).
One thing I would disagree on is "not cost-effective for enthusiasts". I would consider myself an enthusiast, and not a deeply invested Linux professional. Few months ago I decided to go with Thelio basic. I am pretty satisfied. For most part I would agree with downsides Linus mentioned.
My other two options were build my own PC, or get a Dell Precision workstation desktop. The difference in pricing, between Dell and Sys76, was about $200 to $400 depending on choices I made in a final rig config.
Building my own would have been way cheaper. But than I wouldn't get support and I wouldn't have that nicely designed tower.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled What is that "support" that you refer to and find so compelling when buying a pc from Sys76?
I, myself, would consider buying a System76 laptop or pc just for their open-source contributions and would put my money same as when I "donate" to other open-source contributors.
That assumes the company needs Linux, which most don't. Particularly not for the bog standard office worker whose likely used to using a Windows product, maybe a Mac at best (which is even more costly, on average).
It would also be cheaper to hire a proper IT professional if you have to contact support so much that an extra $1,000 per PC is saving you money.
@@RayBitton the support means that you can contact System 76 support team for any problem you can have and get I quick answer and great service. If your warranty have not expired they would do hardware chango if necessary as you would expect but even if it's expired they will assist you and do their best to fix your problem. I speak from personal experience since I own S76 laptop
I don't think the intended market here is replacement of desktops for the average user. More like a workstation.
I could really see this looking attractive to a tech savvy research lab in academia. I do bioinformatics, and the higher end specs of these would make for a great dev box. This makes a lot of sense especially for a research group with only one or two people doing computational work, and the rest do more traditional wet-lab stuff. Most universities have HPC systems you can log into but it's cumbersome to do iterative work on those systems. However, most of the data is larger than you want to use your personal machine for. Also, 99% of research computing happens in a linux environment with open source software.
Most scientists seem to use Macs for their personal systems
Yeah this would fit right in, in my polytechnic colleges' CAD and work shops. They already run outdated linux boxes because the upkeep budget on them got slashed, so something like this might actually work well for them. Try getting old-timers to give up what their used to LOL, might be futile.
@@smorrow Interesting. Only seen a handful of macs around here, like 1 person in over 5 labs uses a mac. Most folks either a) stick to win systems and mostly send mail/browse/use statistica or excel or matlab or whatever or b) use whatever their lab hardware manufacturer gave them or c) run some linux distro if they write code any much.
@@smorrow Academic staff get a discount on Apple hardware. Combined with a native desktop unix environment that doesn't suck, it makes sense.
@@KyussTheWalkingWorm, ‘a native desktop unix environment that doesn't suck’ - we’re still talking about MacOS, right? ;)
Yooo, I use popOS on my Thinkpad X1 instead of windows, I love it so much.
Gian Villarini yessss I'm using it on my Dell XPS 15. Such a good OS
Mint here on an ancient Elitebook, and it runs flawlessly.
Keep up the Linux content :)
Found Wendel's anonymous account
I love Pop_OS ! And Love to see you pushing Linux to the mainstream
Unfortunuately it looks like System 76 might give "normies" the wrong impression about Linux though. My Gran (or most of my mates) watching this: Ooh! Linux systems are a $1000 more expensive than Windows systems!?! I'll just get Little Johnny a PS4 for his birthday.
@@NonEventHorizon A gran is something else, usually younger people know already that Linux is free. From my experience at least.
Also normies wouldn't see a difference between this PC and other except the case and the price, so no, they wouldn't say "it costs 1000$ more than a windows PC" unless they have watched this video.
@@NonEventHorizon I mean yeah, but you could get a $200 windows laptop that runs terribly and just wipe the drive and install POP! OS or some other version of Linux on it for free. It would run way better, and would probably take all of 15mins to set-up (if you know what you're doing). Besides, nothing can beat the gaming value of a console anyways - even a low-end windows gaming laptop. They're meant for different markets at the sub-$1000 pricepoint.
lol. It's funny because it's true!
"I love Pop_OS !"
Nah, mate, it's Pop!_OS 😛
The wrong: Price.
The right: Everything else;
Ah yes, like Apple but with the "right"s!
@@theramendutchman Precies, maar heb liever dit dan een duurde iMac die closed source is en niet upgradable.
Price, and PopOS.
@@sanjacobs6261 Pop!_OS is actually a great Linux distro. And if you want to use another distro, you can just put it on a USB drive and install it. But at that point, you might also just build your own PC.
Linux is a big wrong for me. I am just not at all willing an OS that doesn't have software I use.
Valve Proton FTW!!! it's not 100% there but it's like 96% sooo close, and people wonder what Valve's been up to behind the scenes lol
Ah, I wonder if Valve machines would have done better if THIS level of Linux support was available at their.release...
When Linux becomes as good as Windows for gaming, I may move over to Pop OS or another Linux distro
Perhaps they want to make a console, not a steam computer.
Same thing as xbox - going full cross-platform compatibilty
i hope you know the origin of that profile picture.
you mean who?
Linus: what do you getting for that $1000 difference?
Apple: hold my Pro Stand.
Abid Ashhar Unlike your grammar, you aren’t funny lol
It is funny tho :)
Xalzor Nope, it’s not
@@VBCVeryBigChannel triggered iSheep
@@VBCVeryBigChannel it is totally Fucking Funny! accept Apple didn't hold his beer too. Nyah!
The little solar system on the exaust fan grill is really cute
I switched from windows to Pop!_OS few months back... And I just love it. I dont think I will ever go back to windows
First distro? I've never tried Pop. I've used a ton of others but not that one.
Eric Mewhort lol just wait a year or two, you'll go back, believe me. I'm taking from experience
@@EddieKMusicI'm also coming from experience. I've been using Linux since 08', I'm comfortable here. Zero interest in going to back to Mac OS and even less going to Windows.
Eric Mewhort Interesting. What are the main things you do on your pc?
@@EddieKMusic It's normal I guess you don't need Linux in your case, cause you're a producer. I am interested in producing too so I can't use Ableton or FL Studio on Linux. But I dual boot on my PC with Linux Manjaro and Windows. You can do this too if you're interested on using Linux just for other things and Windows for producing.
BTW Love your songs keep it up dude what genre is that Progressive House or Psy-trance?
I believe it’ll be just a matter of time Linux becomes the big boys in personal systems given that major stuffs (even Stadia) runs/depends on Linux
Hum... the Internet depends on linux... Google depends on it... Even major Windows game titles use Linux servers on their backend to deliver the multiplayer experience reliably.
Everything depends on Linux already, you don't need dx12 support for a search engine servee
I think giants like Windows will eventually be forced to steal their operating system back from the clutches of advertisers. Soon, the average consumer will have a plethora of equally competent open-source options, all with little to no downsides; which Windows and Apple should be very _very_ afraid of.
マッドルースター
True. A lot of it is about accessibility; most people would love to get the computer out of the way and get to their work/content. It’s great that Linux is becoming more accessible to more people.
>compile their own kernel
wtf? as if everyone is running gentoo
what do u think of us, guys who just waste time for no reason
@You know the deal son Waiting for Windows to update is wasting time.
Obviously, need that nice -march and -mtune performance improvement 😏
I took that as hyperbole.
Like maybe 1% of linux users have ever compiled a kernel.
I haven't compiled a kernel in years. Only had to do that for my funky hardware way back then (late 90's, early to mid 00's). Was running old PowerPC gear until I jumped ship to x86 based gear.
Please never use the background that starts at 5:34 and appears through the rest of the video. It's awful. It makes my eyes and head hurt.
tomwol agreed
Yes whoever thought that looked good and then who finalised it must have their eyes painted on.
Lmao
Agreed.
Definitely. Made the resolution go down.
Well, I’m a macOS user, but this Linux desktop has peaked my interest. Certainly much more reasonable in price than what Apple has recently offered.
And as someone who grew up in the same ecosystem since the iMac G3 days (I had base model for my first personal computer that I shared with my older sister), I find it equally as appealing for it's upgradability. I even tried Pop os myself during some distro hopping and it's pretty nice, even with the Gnome desktop being a little slow and scaling a little weird on my laptop's screen.
ElementaryOS, a Ubuntu based distro will catch your interest since it's desktop environment Pantheon is more towards MacOS users.
Could you make a video about switching to linux for about a week?
I've been on it for years. I can tell you that it is overall a better experience than Windows and close to the Mac experience.
@@desther7975 As a long-time Linux user, Mac drives me nuts. I get the supposed polish aspect, but using macOS means sacrificing way too much control for me. And the way software is managed on it is too ad-hoc, not automated enough, and there's not enough open-source.
@@xchanghox Thanks for the reference to Chris Titus Tech's channel! The sight of a happy Linux noob (especially when they're really diving in and learning) always warms a longtime Linux user's heart :-D
Fuck off kid.
We don't want you normies on our OS
@Bersu Ryvec Linus has computers to drop, after all
OMG Im started with Linux a few days ago and also looked at this pc and now it’s at ltt 👍👌
got ass in me jeans
They're listening!
i suggest slackware for a good cry.
Really love the Linux content you guys have been doing lately. Your voices do matter when Linux is going mainstream
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System76 has been around for a long time. It's nice to see them featured on the channel.
Me the whole video: "Ehh it's probably too expensive"
Me when Linus mentions they're from Colorado: *"I must support my brethren"*
That's what I was just thinking! lol!
Not me because I'm from another country and this thing is pricey as fuck
Linus: “It’s for people who don’t want to mess with the installation process and build the pc”
Also Linus: You can’t remove the motherboard.
???
Fire_Silicon he’s talking more about his wrong views on Linux. He means building and compiling the Linux kernel on top of GNU. He’s meaning selecting repos and compiling. None of which anyone has to do these days unless they choose too
Hell yeah, keep that linux content comin'. Pop!_OS is sick!
Ditto
hell ye, I've been running Pop as my main driver for a long time now
if you remove the "H" in Thelio (Telio) in Greek it mean Perfect
So H means perfect?
@SFS Atlas 'Telio' means 'perfect'. The H is just an H...
Therefore implying that the System76 "Thelio" is almost perfect, as it is one letter off from meaning "perfect".
Seems like a good alternative to Apple, for those people that get Apple stuff as a “stylish” computer, that isn't likely to get infected with malware. (I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think there is a far smaller volume of malware on the Internet, that's designed with Linux in mind. I don't think I've ever heard of any, in fact.)
Apple likes their high price tags, too. But unlike Apple, the business model for these PCs isn't toxic, and will likely result in lower costs over time, as they get more business, since they'll have more money to invest in efficiency. Not to mention that just remaining in business over time will likely reduce their costs a little, as they will have developed stuff for their products that can be reused, like skills, software, hardware, design aesthetics, and facilities. Although cost reductions due to that, will likely have diminishing returns, as the costs for that stuff is heavier at the beginning of a business, and they will need to maintain what they have, and develop new, updated things.
And remember: your paying for someone to do the work of setting up the system, and getting it to run decently. So even if you know how to do it yourself, it will still cost you time. And time is money. Though the time of different people has different values.
about Linux and Viruses:
they are rare (although most servers run Linux these days), but the main reason you don't hear about them is that they are rare and they get patched very quickly, most of the time most machines already have the patch on their machines before the reporters wrote their article lulz
@@kuhluhOG. Biggest thing is that Linux distros distribute most of the things you need, wheras on other systems, you need to download stuff from the web, enabling others to fool you into installing bad things.
I couldn't agree more. Apple treats its customers like shit.
@@kuhluhOG exploits are not always patched and only are fixed instantly for you if you're on arch Linux otherwise you're waiting 6 months. So you need to have a good firewall setup and use a vpn at a bare minimum
Worth noting Linux is also actually more secure than Windows, it's been a high priority design focus for the kernel and many distros.
"So this... Is a computer...." Wow, thanks Linus.
Looks like a DOA product.
My next computer will definitely be from system76. Love what they're doing.
Build your own, save literal thousands. I support American companies but their profit margin for a basic Mint build is insane.
@@DeadBaron you're right I could save money by building my own, but, to me, it's worth more than the sum of it parts.
@@DeadBaron ppl like system76 need our support to make their products cheaper. Its not easy to provide the kind of experience they provide if they don't have money to do it
Ive got a couple System 76 via work and have built multiple at home. I have been so impressed with their systems and love to support a great company. It's not Apple margins for sure so it's worth it to me.
@@DeadBaron Only well built laptops deserve you paying the design cost (not standard Clevo parts for certain). These PCs with standard parts thrown together deserve 0 money from me.
what's with the seizure inducing b-roll footage background
I find it pretty cool and didn't even notice it at first. But yeah, definitely should've lowered the flickering.
Calm down karen.
You missed the crucial info that System76 in their firmware fixes the Intel ME issue by disabling/removing it - that alone is worth few hundred $$$ and for some folks could be priceless..
But the system they had reviewed have AMD CPU...
@@matemana1991 you're nitpicking, it doesn't change the fact that it is disabled out off the box and for privacy concerned non-techie people it's a big deal.
@@protomors Google AMD Secure Technology..
@@matemana1991 how did you get from patching firmware to physically removing chips?
Is that System76 or Purism with their Librem laptops?
puri.sm/learn/intel-me/
Love the Linux content and especially love the system76 content . I only buy system 76 laptops and I would buy their desktops if I wasn't so in love with building my own!
I'd love to see TH-cam change the algorithm to show more critical, instead of suck up, comments.
Eric Nutter How are the trackpads on their laptops? I’m used to the one on the 2015 MacBook Pro (which I’ve been running pop os on for a few months). A lot of trackpads on windows laptops just aren’t up to snuff. The drivers in pop are quite excellent, so I figure it won’t be much of an issue.
System76 is an awesome company, and there open source Linux Distro called POP OS, is simply fluent and amazing. I love using the workspace.
PopOS is bloat af. Install arch to get BTFO kid
@@yrgdrasil6403 at least its open source so you can more easily mod it to be less bloated if you want to.
@@yrgdrasil6403 I need more experience with the Linux environment before I get to the Arch Linux. Anyway thanks for the suggestion.
I'm watching this on Pop OS 19.04 on my W3690 Dell Workstation with an RX 560. And it runs fast!
I'm watching this on Windows xp and it runs..... NOSTALGIC!
I don´t really get why people always claim linux is so hard to use. I am not a Linux user and every time I used it, it was very similar to using Windows. Anyone that is a basic user surfing the web or working in Office would hardly notice a difference. Since my workload is mostly web development related that wasn´t much different either because of the heavy reliance on Linux in that industry.
I think if you stuck your grandparants on a Linux PC with one of the user friendly distros they would call you less than if you put them on Windows.
Linux is awesome i learnt so much over the 3 years i used it, now using the terminal often.even learning basic commands is not so hard one could learn enough to be comfortable with it
Putting my grandparents on CloudReady (basically ChromeOS) is the best decision I've ever made. Putting them on an easy Linux would've been good, but ChromeOS is incredibly hard to fuck up.
There certainly are hard to use distros of Linux, but that's a gigantic strawman to extrapolate that to all of them. I said above that something like Ubuntu is actually easier to install in a lot of ways than Windows is.
It isn't hard to use until something breaks...
Linux is "hard" to use because it has some different philosophies. When you use Linux you are bound to encounter the command line(since the basic commands are everywhere the same). When you use an OS that obfscates the commands used via a GUI it can be pretty nerve wrecking. What is sudo, cp, mv, rm,&,&&. When you now need to dig through 5 things to just get a simple idea of what the script is doing it can be offputting.
If you use Linux you are deterined to find something cool and want to use it too. Jokes on you your distro doesn't have the latest packages. better build from source or try to get apt download from testing (which seems more unstable than it is).
I know all of this is not difficult but it always requires a commitment to do it. When you have a problem with Windows you know one person who will help you with your problem. When you use Linux lets hope you RTFM or find either a blog post. That doesn't expect you wear a black belt in commandline-fu
Everytime I switch someone to Linux they get a Commandline Tutorial! What are man pages, what are the basic commands. I create with them their first useless script(update and upgrade). Just so their fear of the commandline is gone.
Linux gang, where you at?
Sorry I'm late, I updated Nvidia drivers last night.
personnally xubuntu all the way
Pop! OS
@@Ahmed-sv9sy I run arch, btw.
@@bufmouse13 is it possible for an arch user to not mention they use arch
Linux PC? I can't thumbs up enough.
This is a pretty dope masheen, you can tell they really put a lot of thought into the design. Really loving that screw holding system, badass
Blud said masheen 💀
I love it. Best choice for people without tech knowledge and good design taste.
Btw. good complete (Win based) PCs from other well known companies aren't very cheaper.
They are doing great work Pop_OS is an amazing distro especially if you're running high end hardware. With Threadripper the OS manages everything perfectly and gives amazing performance.
Linus said to click the video when it comes out, so that is what i am doing.
Thx bruh
same bruh!
@@thibaultmol same bruh!
@@superjmm12345 same bruh!
Bruh moment
I bought one of their laptops 6 years ago and it still works well. I am not as technically savy as most Linux enthusiast and their technical support was a huge plus for me, like seriously good. I would recommend this company.
You guy's could also review, The Librem line from Purism
PureOS, Purism, Librem
Laptops and phones that protect privacy
If their phone is good, I'd love to see a video on it.
I would really, really love that. I'm up for a new laptop soon and want a Linus take on it.
@@applemirer3937 the phone will come out in Q4. obviously it won't be with flagship components as it is mostly open hardware, running a pure Linux distro upon it (which mean the ability to run desktop software), with hardware kill switches for privacy, etc.. I do not fear the lack of apps like in the Windows Phone because first you can dev for free and many apps can run without being dev for the tel. It has also only got 2gb of RAM if I recall correctly but that's fine because it will be lighter than Android
Laptops and phones that maybe protect privacy according to manufacturer and some guys on internet they do but do you trust them
@@bigpod it's not just a case of "boo hoo look at us we have privacy", they use components that are as open as possible and open-source all of their firmware and software so people can vet them.
Wow, this was a really well shot and edited video with lovely background music.
Cute Doggo support is worth $1000 IMO
I hope Doggo answers all the support calls. He wouldn't be able to give much help, but I wouldn't be angry about anything after getting off the phone with Doggo.
A few days ago I took my father's old laptop and installed Arch Linux on it.
He is a Mechanical Engineer and he was in need for a SolidWorks/CAD software alternative so I did a simple search in the command line and found a very similar software - freeCAD.
So now... My father leaves his Windows computer on the shelf and his daily driver is a Linux machine.
He is proudly saying: "I use arch, btw".
then everyone clapped
I use Debian BTW
LinuxTechTips ! I love Linux and this channel too, More linux coverage is always welcome (and it might make people switch to it).
Aye yo where we at pocket play squad?
Pro move!
@@LinusTechTips what does this mean,,
@@wockeyfilm 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@wockeyfilm Helping the channel by immediately clicking the video when we get a bell icon notification and playing the video in the background on our phones to help the video succeed. It was mentioned in the last WAN Show.
Deep in the pockets, we in here
Love the Linux / FOSS coverage. Please keep it up!
I love what System76 is doing and enjoy the laptop I have from them. I doubt I get one of their desktops since I build my own but I am a fan. Also love how they stick to their product naming theme.
More Linux content please, Linus!
7:02 "Honestly, I think a Noctua or a BeQuiet fans swap would help tremendously here."
So... Would it help? Because, y'know, one of the two of us can validate that while the other can't :D
Although I would guess that the "slide over" cover makes that racket.
That static background on the b-roll is AWFUL.
Yes! It's really hard to look at. I came here to say this but found your comment instead
I agree also, that was 100% terrible.
Yes, please don't use it again. Good video otherwise though!
Yea I hope they don't use it again....that was obviously distracting
Pop! OS has become very popular in the Linux community. Their fan-base on the hardware side is growing as well and rightly so, they have great support and make a quality product from every review I have watched. To your points about compiling the kernel etc. those days are long gone, most distros are a breeze to install and set up. Very good and fair review.
I've been wanting you guys to review this, thank you so much for doing so!
Make a review of Purism, their laptops and services! They aim to make ethical and privacy respecting products accessible and affordable
except the prices are not ethical. like at all.
Are you exited about their Librem5 phone as I am? This thing is rad! At least, on paper!
@@MrWinston1337 To be honest, you get that kind of pricing when the production volume is small, and it is a niche product, for which unfortunately, the most of the people wouldn't care owning. If they did, the production numbers would've been larger and the price would've been cheaper
I use DaVinci Resolve Studio, Blender, GIMP and other software on my Linux system for professional video production and absolutely love it and would highly recommend it!
Same!!
I've used linux since Ubuntu 9.10 in 2009 and I've *NEVER* compiled my own kernel lol.
ubuntu is lame
@@firebadnofire9768 It used to be the best distro imo. It's fallen far.
I would say that, while its true that system76 is bringing Linux to normies, it's also a lot more than that: its making GNU and open source software not just accessible, but desirable.
The case is a work of art, for crying out loud, system76 are enthusiasts doing their damnedest to make not using majority closed source trendy, and I think they are really starting to succeed.
The case is ugly, it just is. It right out of the ikea design book.
@@epiccollision what is ugly for you, for someone else might be beautiful, you don't speak the absolute truth, and saying it's ugly doesn't makes it ugly for everyone, also a prop design doesn't need to be an absolute masterpiece to look like one under certain environment designs. What you're talking about is subjective
@@epiccollision I love the case. I'm not sure if it would fit in with my office space, but it looks amazing.
Linus, Linus, Linus...
Using most linux distros' package managers was *ALWAYS* easier than the haphazard mess that is installing stuff on Windows.
I can't believe windows doesn't have some kind of package manager. Just pasting apt-get X into a terminal is so much nicer than searching around for some dumbass .exe file.
@@5T4N1 When I have to go through the painful process of managing a Windows 10 machine first thing I do is installing Chocolatey
@@5T4N1 It has one since Windows 8
I dunno, most sites will flat out just give you an .exe or .msi file to download your software. I've used both Linux and Windows and installation of software on Windows is far easier for me than having to open the terminal. Not to mention that Linux requires an internet connection to use apt get while on Windows you can put the exe on a thumb drive or something and just run it from there.
@@AllThoughts3rased you can put the packages of the repo on a Website and a thumbdrive too
Good he used incognito mode to pre-order the Mac pro screen stand, imagine if his fans found out
I didn't realize System76 was doing all this with a small team of people. That in of itself is really impressive considering what they've been able to put together and release. Makes me want to buy one of their PCs just to support them. :)