This is Why Tekken 8 Players HATE king

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  • Is Tekken 8 living up to the hype, or is King ruining the experience for everyone? Dive into an honest breakdown of Tekken 8’s gameplay, Heat System, online play, and King’s suplex domination. Explore the pros, cons, and everything in between as we analyze the current meta and character balance. From ranked matches to pro-level insights, this video has it all. Share your thoughts and join the conversation!

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  • @Léopart_le_jaguar
    @Léopart_le_jaguar 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    As a king main enjoyer since 2018, that video was funny to watch
    Even if it doesn't give the best solutions to fight king, it can help beginners
    So i will give my advices to fight king :
    Grab king guys : the legend is true... King mains don't break throws, if you ad that with the fact they spam power crush, they'll just eat all your throws
    Side step right : lots of his poking moves has poor tracking to king's left, and his ffn2 low has no tracking at all
    Practice you throw breaks smartly : if a king is running at you and grab you, it's 1+2
    If a king is back at the wall and grab you, 99% it's a giant swing (1break)
    If there's a floor break, either it's 2 or 1+2 depending on the arm animation
    When a king goes sprint mixup :
    DON'T GUESS !!! try to NEVER DUCK and only duck react to the slow animation of the RKO
    Learn the most dangerous chain grabs !
    death craddle is in order : 1 then 1+2 then 2 break
    King's bridge is 2 then 1+2 break

    • @cnqrknightyt9892
      @cnqrknightyt9892 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You sir, are a saint

    • @Tasusama9
      @Tasusama9 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro why are you given advice on how to beat king? Let these people learn how to beat him.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Léopart_le_jaguar you earned yourself a pin my friend. Great input!

    • @voxrex3932
      @voxrex3932 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's best to just mash 1,1,1... until King stops if he goes for raw Jaguar Sprint in heat (without heat just one jab is enough).
      After uf3+4 or heat smash -- yeah, you have to learn to react to the grab.

  • @CaptainVulcan
    @CaptainVulcan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Some of the King hate feels forced. Especially with the likes of Dragunov and Alisa in the game...

    • @frawggyfresh
      @frawggyfresh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually valid tho

    • @CaptainVulcan
      @CaptainVulcan 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Meh, some of it. I agree, but there are much bigger offenders...

  • @jailbrokendsi7333
    @jailbrokendsi7333 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    They nerfed movement, and people wonder why grapplers are aids.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jailbrokendsi7333 yeah the buffed and nerfed it at the same time

    • @voxrex3932
      @voxrex3932 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Stepping King in T8 is much easier than in T7, that's literally the best and easiest counterplay now

  • @andreirving779
    @andreirving779 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    King is The King of Iron Fist Tournament.

  • @frawggyfresh
    @frawggyfresh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a Victor main I endorse this video :3

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@frawggyfresh Victor is the 2nd char I learned after my main. Currently I've been playing Lars non stop but Victor is fun

    • @frawggyfresh
      @frawggyfresh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SwannyOnTheSticks the victor to lars pipeline is wild ngl did the same recently

  • @cursedcrow1033
    @cursedcrow1033 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I only hate his muscle armor . This should count as a move so you can ch launch him with a low out of it

  • @superbearchrist1716
    @superbearchrist1716 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly compared to half of the cast I'd say king is more honest with his strings. We can't do chip damage across the stage like Victor, we don't have the pressure of reina or Lidia, and we have a much small sidestep compared to anyone but the bears. The chain grabs have been around for a long time since tekken 2 (back when one kings bridge was a death combo) so I'm just surprised that by 8 with its easier throw breaks he's all of the sudden an issue. Maybe it's the influx of new players vs legacy players as legacy players like me already got a feel for him. With the current frame data I'm much more nervous to face a dragunov, yoshimitsu, or Lili (besides best side step in the game next to Alisa some of her strings actually duck all mids)

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@superbearchrist1716 yooo real talk my win rate vs lili and Lidia is like -67% 😭😭

  • @GarrickJohnson-pc6ws
    @GarrickJohnson-pc6ws 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    People hate king cause it's hard to escape his grabs period

  • @Dekacho
    @Dekacho 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a King main, I actually enjoy King mirror matches. I try to learn new strats playing others, watching streamers or youtube videos.

    • @juma8195
      @juma8195 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👹you are possessed

  • @DisNugguhRiteHer
    @DisNugguhRiteHer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The other day I was getting pieced up by a Lee who was hitting me with a quick launcher followed by wall to wall combos and with no real way out of them I thought to myself, “these juggle combos aren’t that different from a grapple combo.”

  • @kingdemonte7346
    @kingdemonte7346 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a King thats currently Kishin I can confirm that the King hate is garnered cuz mirror matches are a nightmare 💀

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kingdemonte7346 I hate mirror matches in general lol

  • @theantagonist2960
    @theantagonist2960 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Because everytime I rank up or go on a streak, king ruins everything. There's a difference between training for the grab and dealing with it in a match.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theantagonist2960 for me it's a heihachi or law that ends my promo or streak

  • @lordbruh3307
    @lordbruh3307 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Been a king player since T7 and I am happy to say we eating good🤠

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lordbruh3307 haha lmao this is hilarious

  • @garretwoeller7669
    @garretwoeller7669 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    King has been consistently good since like T7 and honestly the fact that armor King wasn't nearly as good as him and was harder says a lot about how easy King is these days the man is gifted as hell people want to talk about fahkumram but no one wants to talk about King cuz that guy never gets nerfed

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@garretwoeller7669 Ive noticed the more "skilled" players say he isnt mad odee, but a good king (Kishin+) will not allow you to get pressure

    • @garretwoeller7669
      @garretwoeller7669 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SwannyOnTheSticks yeah King is tame by comparison of the higher power level of this game

  • @Something5059
    @Something5059 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Problem with king is that he embodies a lot that is wrong with T8 and that is that he gets things for free. Not to mention that throws are powered up in this game and some of his throws are ambiguous.
    There are worse offenders out there but king is hands down one of the easiest to pick up and go with brain turned off until you hit someone that knows his bs with good reaction.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Something5059 100% facts. I'm pinning this

  • @oddzxc
    @oddzxc 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's because everything he does have insane tracking for all 98% of his attacks and the fact that they gave King a wavedash. Still he's not as bad as Jin and Alisa mains

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oddzxc this is why I'm currently no lifeing Lars off screen because I'm tired of my rank getting dismissed cuz of Alisa lol

    • @memebump7612
      @memebump7612 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      King has the worst tracking in the game. What moves are you talking about? 😅😂

  • @Kinos141
    @Kinos141 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Time to go back to playing King. I love the gameplan.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kinos141 haha lol I've thought about crossing to the dark side

    • @andreirving779
      @andreirving779 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SwannyOnTheSticksIt's fun here.

  • @omrizubary
    @omrizubary 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    King is the reason why i'm attracted to grapplers😂 you want to block? NOPE YOUR GETTING THROWN

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@omrizubary ahhh jack8 is a close 2nd offender

  • @Fleez311
    @Fleez311 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The hate is justified, that free armor thing he does is the single cheapest thing in the game. I didn’t know I was fighting a souls boss on max difficulty

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Fleez311 it for sure is cheap but I just grab kings that spam that give em a taste lol

    • @andreirving779
      @andreirving779 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Use a grab or low?

    • @Fleez311
      @Fleez311 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andreirving779 yeah no shit, I’m obviously talking about scenarios when you poke with a mid and he eats it by doing that armor stance at the same time and now you have to guess off a heat engager

    • @andreirving779
      @andreirving779 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Fleez311 Lol, use a safer mid? Or open with a low instead? Some of these characters can pound off two hits into his muscle armor & still have time to block before King swings back. Visit the lab, it helps.

    • @Fleez311
      @Fleez311 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andreirving779 okay?? You have time to block but your turn gets stolen via the push back on the elbow as it essentially resets neutral and does chip, in which the move alone can effortlessly condition you to lows and go for grabs.
      And I’m not speaking on the armor move in the context of someone mindlessly abusing it cause no shit I can just grab and do lows all day against them, I’m referring to kings that use it optimally to help him control neutral since that’s the purpose of the move. But I respect the downplay though

  • @dallasdawkins2369
    @dallasdawkins2369 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "if king grabs you once its not a combo, its a full on wrestling show..." Uhhh yeah thats kings thing, grabs, throws, solid strikes, etc... thats wlways been his thing. Honestly some of his moves have been there since the beginning. I still dont understand why so much king hate when online play has been around since....5? I dont even play king but at least i know if he gets his hands on you, unless you know what youre doing youre gonna get slammed. Cant tell you what it sounds like but just definitely know, it sounds like it.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dallasdawkins2369 haha yeah it's a one sided gameplay for sure if he grabs you. I've never played Tekken competitively until this one.

    • @dallasdawkins2369
      @dallasdawkins2369 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SwannyOnTheSticks no fault on you. This is a lot of people's first Tekken competitively. You were definitely right on the "be aggressive and predictable" call. King players are used to a certain speed of the fight so if you stay on the move you can slowly chop them to death

  • @brianwilliams6355
    @brianwilliams6355 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don’t really hate King in particular. But I hate my friends King. Dude pisses me off every time we play lol.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@brianwilliams6355my homeboys law is so scummy he made me main Alisa and I hate myself for it lol

    • @brianwilliams6355
      @brianwilliams6355 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ lol damn. I’m sorry man lol. Looks like this what it’s coming down to here on Tekken 8

  • @platinumwolf526
    @platinumwolf526 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Honestly if your patient and break most of his grabs its not that bad tbh

    • @FAM0US-M0NSTERS-
      @FAM0US-M0NSTERS- 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's bullshit. King is plus after every grab break. And as for breaking every grab you're delusional. You have a 1 in 3 chance to break a grab. Guess wrong you're eating 55 damage at least going straight into mix. They made King braindead. You can literally button bind all 4 face buttons to a single button and just mash all his throw chains. He's a braindead character designed for shit players

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@platinumwolf526 I agree but the majority hates king lol

    • @platinumwolf526
      @platinumwolf526 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SwannyOnTheSticks i do understand how to fight him but I still hate him lol

  • @mehrankhan7871
    @mehrankhan7871 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    T8 king is just stupid, this character never got the amount of hate he got in this game and it's because of all those running mixups they gave him, it's definitely not about not being able to break grabs cause the grab in that mixup is unbreakable.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mehrankhan7871 bro the running rko cancel into heat smash or jaguar step is NASTY

  • @coffeebean_tamer
    @coffeebean_tamer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How to beat King take off his Jaguar head show him his face in a mirror.

  • @VikramSingh-iy4zg
    @VikramSingh-iy4zg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All the characters i hate playing against in tekken 8, king i hate the most😂

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@VikramSingh-iy4zg I'm glad we get to share our hatred for him together!

  • @AdamColeman-b7b
    @AdamColeman-b7b 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    King isn’t that cheap.. it’s the king play that has to deal mashy spammy bs.. the think about king is he can be very technical, but he also can go bunga a little bit.. so players like myself determine how skilled the player is.. if the play is skilled they don’t mind the King match to much.. but if victor and Alissa is on the scene I’m more than happy to be a bunga jerk because those players just by looking at the screen obviously don’t care who the spam.. so you get what you ask for.. I know how this work I’ve been playing 20 + years

  • @lazyalpaca556
    @lazyalpaca556 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We hate em cause he takes no skill or rather low effort for big results it’s harder to fight king then to play him

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lazyalpaca556 very solid points, low barrier of entry to succeed in. Not as quite ungabunga like Alisa but still

    • @lazyalpaca556
      @lazyalpaca556 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ yea lol I hate Alisa also hopefully a nice patch will balance everyone out or bring other characters up I don’t like seeing a lot of nerds unless needed

  • @rationalityrules111
    @rationalityrules111 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    the problem with this video is that the footage doesn't gel with the commentary, you are praising king and showing him constantly get beat up or win by not that big a margin

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rationalityrules111 exactly cuz in reality he isn't that good but I'm commentating from the lens of the community that complains about king on my videos. Thank you for watching!

    • @rationalityrules111
      @rationalityrules111 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SwannyOnTheSticks ahh so it was all sarcasm. Sure, that was really a bit too much sarcarsm. You got me for sure.

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rationalityrules111 thats not what i said at all lol. Literally read the words its not that hard.

    • @f.m.6012
      @f.m.6012 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SwannyOnTheSticks😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ZívacíBublina
    @ZívacíBublina 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Personally, I never really hated king. He looks cool. For some reason I grew hate for characters like Law. Just because of their fookin voice, every time I hear Law screaming it reminds of Liu Kang spaming my ass with fire balls. The screaming just feels so.....forced, it doesn't even sound cool to me.

  • @rob0893
    @rob0893 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What rank are you, if you play ranked, if I can ask?

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rob0893 bushin on my main currently but I been having fun with Lars recently

    • @rob0893
      @rob0893 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Very nice, how long have you been playing?

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rob0893 this is my first competitive tekken but I was knocking heads back in college in tag 2

    • @rob0893
      @rob0893 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was just curious! I appreciate your response! I hope you're having a good day!
      Edit: I should add MainManSwe has a How To Beat King guide, he just posted, if you're unaware!

  • @dpouch03
    @dpouch03 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People who hate on king suck at the game legit

  • @tonywalker1954
    @tonywalker1954 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A wrestler without the ring is even worse tombstone pildriver on concrete😂 ya done indefinitely

    • @SwannyOnTheSticks
      @SwannyOnTheSticks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tonywalker1954 ya going straight to the shadow realm 🤣

  • @christianvicente2347
    @christianvicente2347 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    king is a scrub killer, without good neutral you guys are never gonna beat him even if namco bring back tk5dr king

  • @endersjehuty7721
    @endersjehuty7721 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You explained.... Nothing.

  • @AliHassan-ki2fq
    @AliHassan-ki2fq 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Offline king is not that hard to deal with. King is really annoying because of online lag. It just becomes way harder to counter him.