SpectraVideo 728 (MSX) was my first childhood home computer back in the late mid 1980's. I believe, i was 4 or 5 years old. Then, we moved to the Commodore 64, and then Amiga 500 😺👍. I still have them both 🕹️ 😺👍. A big retrospective like 👍🕹️ from Vantaa, Finland 🇫🇮. 😺👍🕹️
In regards to comment about the compaq price @8:30 "$2795, that's about $8000 today"; Inflation calculators are intended to be used for comparing general purchasing power and tend to be quite inaccurate when applied to individual goods. If we compared average US household income in 1984 ($26,430) to 2023 ($59,394) and then extrapolate that to the compaq prices then a more realistic equivalent modern price for the Compaq would be $6280. That's still very expensive but it does give a better idea of why the US$500-1000 PC clones (about $1100-2200 in 2023) that started to arrive in 1986 were considered to be affordable for home users.
Sounds right. It's sure isn't a straightforward issue. Many other parameters can apply. But I guess people understand that we're giving approximate figures here.
Not counting BBS (bulletin board system), which I never really cared for, there was a company, Sierra Imagination Network, in the 90's, that offered multiplayer online games. You could play Red Baron, a dungeon game, kinda like Runescape, but not as advanced. It was years ahead of everyone else. Membership was expensive, like $100/month. AOL was around with their email messaging. Yahoo slowly came on online offering card games, like spades, euchre, which I played from 98-99. I miss the old games. You physically had a copy, like Ultima 3, which came with a cloth map, instruction book, several floppy disks. My dad bought us kids the Atari 2600, then Atari 400.
You say 12% had an XT, and another 18% a clone, but you seem to have forgotten that in 1984, half the computers in the world had. the chicken-lips logo C=
You need to take off the rose tinted glasses, the 80's wasn't that great. We had constant threat of cold war and being nuked. Computers back then was 8bits and there was simply no standards and software was amazingly high priced and very lackluster and crash prone. I'm a 80's kid and recognize that while the 80's defined music and movies, it also wasn't great when it came to tech and design.
Yes the software was buggy and the hardware expensive and fault prone at times. Without the 8 bit systems of the 80s we would not of developed the tech we take for granted today. I don't remember worrying too much about being nuked. Just some great movies about the topic.
Nothing wrong with the "rose tinted ' glasses, it's not harming anyone. I was 11 in 1984 and remember the nuclear threat well and watched Threads that year. Was still a better time to be in then this current era. Software wasn't that expensive, you could copy games onto cassette if you wanted.
@@AlexMitchell-sj4sbAs a 10yr old in '84 "Threads" scared the shit out of me. Lol! Definitely agree that it was a better time, and we got to live through the rave scene before it became a corporate mainstream cashcow
@andysimkin5200 yeah late 80s was great, everything good and made by the people eventually becomes corporate. Always someone wanting to make money off it. Just look at TH-cam now compared to 2006-2010
Fantastic video. Thank you a lot for your effort.
At your service
Simply BETTER times ! Not only in computing.
The Amstrad CPC was my first computer. Thx so much for this video.
Glad you enjoyed
What a wonderful trip back in time!
Thanks, glad you liked
Awesome Nostalgia overload !
Glad you enjoyed!
Nostalgia Overlload could actually make a great video title, I might use it yet :)
@@RetroDream Nostalgia Overload should be your channel name.
SpectraVideo 728 (MSX) was my first childhood home computer back in the late mid 1980's.
I believe, i was 4 or 5 years old.
Then, we moved to the Commodore 64,
and then Amiga 500 😺👍.
I still have them both 🕹️ 😺👍.
A big retrospective like 👍🕹️
from Vantaa, Finland 🇫🇮.
😺👍🕹️
Thanks for sharing thoughts about your beloved machines
Good times!
In regards to comment about the compaq price @8:30 "$2795, that's about $8000 today";
Inflation calculators are intended to be used for comparing general purchasing power and tend to be quite inaccurate when applied to individual goods. If we compared average US household income in 1984 ($26,430) to 2023 ($59,394) and then extrapolate that to the compaq prices then a more realistic equivalent modern price for the Compaq would be $6280. That's still very expensive but it does give a better idea of why the US$500-1000 PC clones (about $1100-2200 in 2023) that started to arrive in 1986 were considered to be affordable for home users.
Sounds right. It's sure isn't a straightforward issue. Many other parameters can apply. But I guess people understand that we're giving approximate figures here.
TI 99 4A 1983, Tandy 1000 RLX 1990s, various IBM-Compatibles, and Apples!(I prefer Apple: Easy to learn and use)!
MSX was my first computer as well.
so we understand each other
Not counting BBS (bulletin board system), which I never really cared for, there was a company, Sierra Imagination Network, in the 90's, that offered multiplayer online games. You could play Red Baron, a dungeon game, kinda like Runescape, but not as advanced. It was years ahead of everyone else. Membership was expensive, like $100/month. AOL was around with their email messaging. Yahoo slowly came on online offering card games, like spades, euchre, which I played from 98-99.
I miss the old games. You physically had a copy, like Ultima 3, which came with a cloth map, instruction book, several floppy disks. My dad bought us kids the Atari 2600, then Atari 400.
Absolutely. These were pioneers.
Pretty sure the 80's was only 20 years ago.
Sure
Yes
Are you sure about that? I remember that it was 34 years ago it ended, January 1990.
Yup
Yap
The audio 'pops' made it a little hard to listen to.
where for instance
@@RetroDream Through a quite a bit I'm afraid. You could try lowering the input gain of your mic, or getting a Pop-Screen.
You say 12% had an XT, and another 18% a clone, but you seem to have forgotten that in 1984, half the computers in the world had. the chicken-lips logo C=
no this percentage is about the IBM compatibles category only
You need to take off the rose tinted glasses, the 80's wasn't that great. We had constant threat of cold war and being nuked. Computers back then was 8bits and there was simply no standards and software was amazingly high priced and very lackluster and crash prone. I'm a 80's kid and recognize that while the 80's defined music and movies, it also wasn't great when it came to tech and design.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes my glasses are tinted because I'm doing this video from the kid's perspective :)
Yes the software was buggy and the hardware expensive and fault prone at times. Without the 8 bit systems of the 80s we would not of developed the tech we take for granted today. I don't remember worrying too much about being nuked. Just some great movies about the topic.
Nothing wrong with the "rose tinted ' glasses, it's not harming anyone. I was 11 in 1984 and remember the nuclear threat well and watched Threads that year. Was still a better time to be in then this current era. Software wasn't that expensive, you could copy games onto cassette if you wanted.
@@AlexMitchell-sj4sbAs a 10yr old in '84 "Threads" scared the shit out of me. Lol!
Definitely agree that it was a better time, and we got to live through the rave scene before it became a corporate mainstream cashcow
@andysimkin5200 yeah late 80s was great, everything good and made by the people eventually becomes corporate. Always someone wanting to make money off it. Just look at TH-cam now compared to 2006-2010