Anyone who routinely smells the product for "authenticity" is someone I consider to be fairly involved with a product's history and nuiances.... Or insane...
It's so endearing to see how excited he gets about things. Clint is an absolute sweetheart, like the Mr Rogers of TH-cam and its so wonderful to see him get so passionate about these old computers.
lol, what do you think would happen exactly. More than likely no one would bat an eye. Only to mock that annoying person who films themselves in public that is.
The weird screen size was also because a screen twice the size would have been about four times the cost adding $$$$$ to the price. Back when the computer was made a large number of the screens made would probably get rejected due to lines across them like Clint's or similar.
@@kpanic23 isn't that a 32:10 aspect ratio? Not far from our 32:9 displays today. I'd love to see a broken one of these gutted and reborn with modern components.
Hey you know what I feel want old computer and old laptop why because 1.nostalgia 2.learn to coding and type command word 3.having fun with it Oya hey you know what I miss my past because in my past it's fun playing around and today it's different because 1. Pandemic 2.everything change
Clint, your channel is slowly becoming a bigger database about IBM PCs than IBM themselves. Very interesting, loved the video as always, thanks for sharing this thing with us
Lenovo probably throws a lot of those away, I met an old man who couldn't figure out why midi-quality dropped when he switched from his 1990s pc to a win7 laptop. This is a guy who plays music at bars for a hobby and has done it a for a little over a decade
I actually bought one of these from a “catalog” after placing my order over a landline and then waiting almost two weeks for it to show up. I believe it was like $650 in 87 or 88. Sadly he did not show how the printer clipped to the ass end of it. You could knock out your fresh document on dot matrix thermal paper ready to throw in the copier to have it transformed into a real readable usable paper suitable for presentation before the toxic chemicals in the thermal paper could seep into your skin and cause liver damage. It was loud and slow and thoroughly impressive. Yes it did have a battery built in but no hard drive. when doing word processing when you went to edit you would have to put in different disks to perform functions. Even living in San Jose at the time I would break this baby out in public places and everyone would walk by staring at this portable pinnacle of technology in awe.
Eighties electronics had that high tech smell that modern electronics just don't. I think they washed their circuit boards in a non-environmentally friendly solvent or something. They seem to be getting away from that burnt circuit board smell they had after that. In the eighties, you could still smell the high tech goodness even after you had them for a few years by just putting your nose up to it. Magic! So, I totally understand why he's getting some nostril action on that stuff.
@Robert Gaines Exactly. I've noticed this myself. I'm pretty sure you are right about the most prominent smell coming from the solvent wash used to clean up the PC boards back in the 80s and prior. I like the smell.
I said it before and I'll say it again: This guys enthusiasm is probably the best part of his videos. The love, care, and enjoyment makes it incredible
@@davidmcgill1000 Ugh my family had/has a small VHS drawer that has the most AWFUL plastic/rubber rotten smell to it that I swear it has had since we bought it. Its nostalgic but also my nose wants to throw up.
The "writing" you could see in the paper while shining light on the back is the paper watermark. That is how you could tell if a letter was on high bond paper when that was a thing of importance.
I have fond memories of these convertibles. I bought a second hand Toshiba T1200 that I used in highschool in the 90s, years after after the things came out. It had a damn power switch to turn on/off the internal 10mb hard drive to conserve battery power. My friends at the lunch table would turn it off while I was trying to play Prince of Persia. Bastards. The display wasn't great but it was still magic to me to be portably computing in the first place. Never seen the removable display before!!! Awesome...
Yeah, my dad had one of those for work, it was my first computer. I still have it somewhere, and I think he ended up getting a second one for some reason. I learned all the dos commands on that thing, and used to play indycar racing and lemmings on it! Also typed up and printed many things for school using word 5 for dos, and the HP ThinkJet printer long before most people had computers at home, and the teachers used to not like the fact that I did things on the computer instead of by hand.
LGR needs a late night unboxing segment. Candles, red velvet table covering, glass of wine and a satin backdrop while sultry jazz is playing. These unboxings are getting hot! :D Great show as always!
This was the first laptop I saw in person. My instructor brought hers to class one day. I was in awe of the thing. It was so much smaller than the 286 machines were were learning on.
There seems to be some surprising similarities between the PC Convertible and the Apple IIc, especially with the way IBM did the cantilevered monitor stand. (The IIc had an optional LCD screen that looked a lot like the Convertible's as well.)
I love these IBM I take care of an elderly gentlemen who worked for IBM almost 40 years. Who helped oversee the installation of the SABRE computer system which was used to track air traffic through the US. He also oversaw the teams that tracked the results of the 1964 Olympics in Japan where he got to be drinking buddies with the son of the emperor. And the subsequent British Olympics where he stayed with one of the ladies in waiting to the queen and her husband. Anything IBM brings back memories which is good due to the fact he suffers from early onset Alzheimer's.
I actually have a fully functional apple IIe computer in my room right now. My brother got it from someone who was throwing away stuff out of their shed. It's apparently a school computer. Guy had floppy drives, monitor, computer/keyboard itself and even a printer.
I just imagined Clint coming home after a pretty stressful day, collapsing in his old armchair, reaching behind to grab a Model F keyboard, taking a deeeep whiff... Ahhh... much better...
@@em84c yeah i like computers the only computer i used and is using today is a windows 7 i have used a windows 10 but i use my windows 7 just for myself
8:37 -- *Exactly* what I sound like after sniffing new computer parts. Seriously though, great video and find. I've never had the pleasure of unboxing and setting up this model, but hope to one day!
I don't know if you have much Brazilian fans, but I love your videos! Seeing you reviewing games and computers of my childhood it's awesome, and your acid humour makes it all even more fun! Keep the good work! Cheers 😁✌️
If you want to re-bond that broken plastic chip as cleanly and strongly as possible, *forget glue.* Get some *acetone*, line up the part with the crack and practice seating it in one motion. Then put just a dab of acetone all along the "crack face" (the inside edge of the plastic where it broke). You want enough that it wets the entire surface but doesn't run and drip. I used to put it on both edges, but found this to be unnecessary. Give it a sec or two then stick it in the crack. Hold it for a minute or two and it should be bonded perfectly. You want to do it in one move because depending on the size of the crack and how much acetone you put on it may bond instantly or you may have to hold for a couple of minutes. Either way, you don't have much time to set and adjust it once the first parts touch. I've done this with lots of broken off parts in vintage plastic and when you get it right, you can't even see it unless looking really close. Even if you don't get it lined up perfectly and can see or feel the crack's edge, it's still a perfect bond. *Unlike glue, it will be as strong as the plastic around it* (I suspect with brittle, aged plastic, sometimes maybe stronger). As far as I know this only works with ABS and ABS-like plastics. The good thing is that ABS is very common in consumer goods and I'm like 90% sure that broken part is ABS. ABS dissolves in acetone so applying it to the edge melts it just a bit. When you press it in the crack it'll spread to the other edge, the two edges' polymers co-mingle and once the acetone is gone (it either absorbs into the rest of the plastic or just evaporates away, I'm not sure) it's like one part again. BTW acetone is one of the safest and least toxic solvents available to consumers so don't let anyone scare you off with warnings of scary "nasty chemicals". It's not like benzene or something.
yea but solvent welding (I use sci grip 4) wont do squat once you apply glue so you have to scrape it clean which makes the gap bigger, I cringe whenever I see someone glue ABS or similar plastic willy nilly "oh check out this NOS blah blah blah" snots 99 cent superglue all over it, yep that will hold for about 8 seconds
Yup Lenovo has kinda destroyed what once was the best line of laptops ever made. I still have my IBM T43p from 2006 and it's a lovely machine and a real Windows XP workhorse to say the least. On the other hand I have a Lenovo T410s which is from around 2011 and this thing already has some broken plastic parts and thermal throttles a lot. I'm glad it has a real ThinkPad style keyboard though and not one of those crappy chiclet keyboards you find on the T430 and upwards which feels like you are typing on a stone brick or something
DJ Slinus I had a Lenovo laptop that had a terrible screen. Their built quality for those screens is bad, the screen went blank, they had to fix and replace my Lenovo. Those cheap keyboards are like ripping off the MacBook keyboards.
@@Markimark151 yup changing the keyboard is the most stupid decision Lenovo ever made. Ripping of an already terrible keyboard to make it even worse seemed like a great idea to them when they designed the T430. The screens at least on my ThinkPads are not the worst but from a built quality perspective I can definetly relate to what you said. On my T400 the screen flex cable broke twice. The first time it broke I took the whole unit apart and changed out the broken cable for a new one which cost me roughly 25 dollars. The second time it broke I didn't even bother and just removed the screen entirely. Now it works great as a "halftop" computer connected to an older but still great 1280 * 1024 LCD Monitor.
@@nilswegner2881 I beg to differ. I've used thinkpads since my first one in 1997 and my current T470s is as awesome as any IBM made thinkpad I've had. The plastic has an amazing feel, feels as or more solid than any of my previous thinkpads (still owns a few older ones) despite the thinness, it has user replaceable batteries and is serviceable. No glued everything closed everything crap as many others do. The chicklet keyboard is wonderful as well. The one I had plastic bits break off was the first 365x I had, my IBM ThinkPad A22p got graphical errors after just four years (pink lines on the screen, gpu failure). The bad thinkpads are those super cheap ones.
Ahhh the memories these videos bring! My dad worked for IBM and we always got to keep the machines after they upgraded. My first PC was an XT and it still works to this day! I’ll always remember at five years old, my dad and I didn’t play catch, or fish, or ride bikes. We were glued to the wonderful green screen! Pirates of the Barbary Coast is still one of my favorite games.
adventureoflinkmk2 Reflowing entire devices is not the panacea that some people think. If it's a bad panel to PCB connection, it may just be the zebra strips, which (if used in this model) are held in place by their rubbery springiness, not solder.
I'm not 100% positive but if memory serves the line is by design. I want to say this was a limitation at the time but I do not recall the technical details.
+Nick Carrigan | I recall an early Pentium Toshiba Satellite notebook (32 Mb RAM, Windows 98, pithy CPU) that had a 800x600 color LCD stacked together from two almost-discreet panels. If I'd encountered that IBM portable in its time, or even just a few years later, I'd still be in awe, and the "defective" line would be seen as "by design".
I know next to nothing about old computers and what I do know I learned from LGR but there's something incredibly zen about the videos on this channel that instantly mellows me out. The perfect channel to grab a cup of morning coffee and watch with breakfast before all the shit you gotta do during the day starts and I don't even eat breakfast!
Whoever I sold my old IBM 700c PS/2 laptop to back in the late 90's...... I WANT IT BACK! Man do I miss the old technology. Something different about it compared to today. Great Video Clint! Look forward to that video of its History. Thanks!!
I remember this one. Someone I knew a while back had one of these with a busted A Drive, the B Drive worked with some discs but not the DOS it came with. The convertible monitor was also no good so it was used with a VGA monitor (I believe the convertible monitor had burned out - it displayed nothing). It was mainly used as a word processor and spreadsheet keeper. It also reeked of sulphur since it was exposed to chemical reactions in a lab for over ten years. A familiar smell that is far more suited to wood than plastic, lol
I think it is amazing that a machine, which was produced more that three decades ago and have never been powered up since then works perfectly (...or at least works to some degree, after a bit of tweaking) when powered on for the first time. Consider all the moving parts still working, all of the magnetic readers etc. Amazing!
That rising keyboard mechanism is so beautiful. I normally don't find myself feeling particularly fond for 80s IBM's design aesthetic for the most part, but that is one sexy assembly for as boxy and utilitarian as it is.
This is going to sound like Tmi but having this play in the background helped me stay relaxed for a nausea spell, lol. Thanks Clint! For real though, what a fascinating little computer!
Wouldn't even be close to the most expensive computer he's reviewed, and I think some of those were thousands of dollars back in the day and not inflated! And to think, back then they'd be outdated within months
@@matthewmlodzienski453 The SGI Indigo graphics workstation he looked at once would have been worth something like 40 grand in 1993 dollars. For true PCs, the PS/2 Model 90 XP at ~$18 000 for 1990.
I got to have a play with one of these about 20 odd years ago when someone asked me to fix theirs up for them. Amazing piece of kit. You should totally fill out that registration form and see what IBM make of it
Your channel makes me so happy. You are putting the knowledge you gained out there for everyone by being passionate and letting that drive you. keep it up man, brings a smile to my face.
Clint you sniff that computer and DOS book like you are sampling a fine wine. I love it. Nothing beats the smell of a brand new IBM computer! Especially the books that came with them, the Guide to Operations and DOS books always had this unique smell to them that was quite intoxicating, at least to a geek like me! Glad its still working, even though it was never used, who knows how it was kept the last 30 years or so. Im suprised the floppies worked as well as they did. Keep up the good work!
I had, and still have, a later-model PC Convertible with a backlit screen - I always found it very pleasant to use, thanks to the screen, the exceptional keyboard (brown Alps switches!), and the wonderfully sensible design, despite the 8088 CPU which was a little long in the tooth even in 1986. Just lovely execution by IBM overall. Thanks for spotlighting it.
@@poolboyinla I love the car! Very cool to see one up and running and looking so good. Brings back some great memories of the 80's. Cool video - I subscribed :) Cheers! Edit: I just noticed it said you quit making videos. Do you video blog anywhere else?
@Chris WG. Thanks for subscribing. I actually have some very interesting videos coming up on this channel. I did recently start a 2nd channel, but I don't promote it to my audience of this channel because it is very different and I am more uncensored there about certain topics. As for my car, I absolutely love it. It's funny how 3rd gen Firebirds are kind of rare these days and you almost never see them in good condition like mine. Despite it being such a popular car in the 80's, it seems largely forgotten and younger people have never seen a nice one. It is wild because when people see mine, a lot of people think it is some new futuristic car or that it is some exotic car I imported from Europe.
I know this will get lost down in the comments, but I recently just got my first "vintage" PC (Pentium 4) after my father, whom bless his heart, doesn't understand old computers and instead of jsut smashing the hard drive destroyed every PCB in my families old Windows 98 PC. But mainly you (LGR) and The 8-Bit Guy are what have gotten me back into my love of these old PCs.
What I'd do (and this is because I have BASICA and QBasic on my computer via DOSBox) is that I'd load the program and punch in LIST. Now, I don't have a modern BASIC interpreter, yet, but there's plenty available. What you do then is, depending on how DONKEY.BAS is coded, it could be as easy as loading it up with a Notepad. A while ago, I was trying convert an Apple ][ BASIC game into an MS-DOS format until it got a little annoying. I may have to figure out some other way to decode.
Chaos89P Older Apple systems used CR between lines instead of CRLF or LF like other systems. So using a basic tool like perl to fix that is a good first step.
Ahhhh vintage computer noises. I fired up a P3 Win 98 laptop last week and my fiance thought I had cranked up the Dyson. From the other room she goes "thanks for vacuuming babe, but I already did." Oh no my dear, just an old pentium machine.
@@Copper20 I had the one with the "better" screen and it was pretty much impossible to see anything moving on the screen. Games are pretty much impossible
I set one of these up for a client in 1986. Ah, the warm memories of working in the College computer lab. No network, no internet, just Wordperfect and a printer. Always had to unjam the printers. That's what I mostly did in the library.
My very first PC. This is where I learned DOS. I had an Apple II plus before this, but this is when I turned to using PCs. My dad sold insurance in the 1980s and this allowed him to right policies in the field and print out documents for clients. Once he upgraded to the next PC I inherited this from him. Also I got a backlit screen upgrade too.
You should so take that to a starbucks. Sit right next to someone with an imac. Ask them what they are working on. If they start to tell you cut them off. Say your working on a novel and start rehashing some John Hughes movie, see if they get the reference.
That was the first computer we owned. My dad picked it up at an auction. It didn’t have the original fold up monitor- we hooked it up to a VGA. I remember playing Zork on it for hours.
Speaking Of DOS, I have a story from 2005. So I was 3 in 2005, and I found this mysterious machine as what I called it, I powered it on and it booted to Windows 98, I was 3 back at that time, So I was used to Windows XP, But anyway, I found what looked like a copy of Doom II, It was very early in the morning, So I was thinking to my self that if I launched the game, Mom and Dad would be upset, So I just turned off the computer and when I told my parents years later in 2017 about the story, They did not remember having a machine with Windows 98, So, Yeah. I forgot about that story years ago and remembered the story in 2017. Just wanted to share a story with everyone's favorite retro TH-camr. Hopefully this story made you have at least a small chuckle, Sincerely ~ Tropicalbeachfan2004 himself
I love how you have become a freaking connoisseur of IBM design, documentation, and computers. You seriously sound like a sommelier at points.
Garson! This software package is unsealed! Unsealed I say! Who do you serve here - people or animals?!
Anyone who routinely smells the product for "authenticity" is someone I consider to be fairly involved with a product's history and nuiances....
Or insane...
@@unverifiedbiotic I pictured Tim Roth saying your line above!
Laptop got back yall! With printer badonk kadonk.
It's so endearing to see how excited he gets about things. Clint is an absolute sweetheart, like the Mr Rogers of TH-cam and its so wonderful to see him get so passionate about these old computers.
Film yourself in Starbucks with this.
yeet
@@somecallmesean_ Or The 8-Bit Guy.
And make sure to print a whole bunch of pages out so people will definitely notice you by the sheer amount of noise alone.
lol, what do you think would happen exactly. More than likely no one would bat an eye. Only to mock that annoying person who films themselves in public that is.
LOL, that's funny. :)
I didn't know IBM was in the Ultra-wide display market.
That weird screen size is because of CGA's 640x200 resolution and square LCD pixels.
A plain calculator display is wider still, and not that much inferior resolution wise, if you know what it mean...
The weird screen size was also because a screen twice the size would have been about four times the cost adding $$$$$ to the price. Back when the computer was made a large number of the screens made would probably get rejected due to lines across them like Clint's or similar.
@@kpanic23 isn't that a 32:10 aspect ratio? Not far from our 32:9 displays today. I'd love to see a broken one of these gutted and reborn with modern components.
IBM: "this system will make some business man really happy and successful!"
34 Years latter
"Greetings"
*10 Print "Farts"*
wood grain!!!!
I’m sure IBM would be proud
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey you know what I feel want old computer and old laptop why because
1.nostalgia
2.learn to coding and type command word
3.having fun with it
Oya hey you know what I miss my past because in my past it's fun playing around and today it's different because
1. Pandemic
2.everything change
Clint, your channel is slowly becoming a bigger database about IBM PCs than IBM themselves. Very interesting, loved the video as always, thanks for sharing this thing with us
@Teddy Edd and entertaining aswell
Hes probably got a vast software and addon boards archive too now.
Fill and send that registration card to IBM :)
Maybe he'd get an answer from IBM.
I thought the same thing as soon as he showed it.
😂😂😂
Lenovo probably throws a lot of those away, I met an old man who couldn't figure out why midi-quality dropped when he switched from his 1990s pc to a win7 laptop. This is a guy who plays music at bars for a hobby and has done it a for a little over a decade
That LCD is sooooo smeary! Such blurry memories are becoming slightly less fuzzy, I love it!
I do not like LCD's. I only like Cathode-ray tubes.
I actually bought one of these from a “catalog” after placing my order over a landline and then waiting almost two weeks for it to show up. I believe it was like $650 in 87 or 88. Sadly he did not show how the printer clipped to the ass end of it. You could knock out your fresh document on dot matrix thermal paper ready to throw in the copier to have it transformed into a real readable usable paper suitable for presentation before the toxic chemicals in the thermal paper could seep into your skin and cause liver damage. It was loud and slow and thoroughly impressive. Yes it did have a battery built in but no hard drive. when doing word processing when you went to edit you would have to put in different disks to perform functions.
Even living in San Jose at the time I would break this baby out in public places and everyone would walk by staring at this portable pinnacle of technology in awe.
"It's probably just toxic plastic.." *Does weird, high laugh*
uh hu :p
Eighties electronics had that high tech smell that modern electronics just don't. I think they washed their circuit boards in a non-environmentally friendly solvent or something. They seem to be getting away from that burnt circuit board smell they had after that. In the eighties, you could still smell the high tech goodness even after you had them for a few years by just putting your nose up to it. Magic! So, I totally understand why he's getting some nostril action on that stuff.
@Robert Gaines
Exactly. I've noticed this myself. I'm pretty sure you are right about the most prominent smell coming from the solvent wash used to clean up the PC boards back in the 80s and prior. I like the smell.
Stuff like that is probably why the Christmas clone exists
I said it before and I'll say it again: This guys enthusiasm is probably the best part of his videos. The love, care, and enjoyment makes it incredible
can we bottle the perfumes of old computers ?
And the insides of VHS sleeves.
And then there's me with anosmia :(
I would buy this, for .... weird reason.
Eau de IBM
@@davidmcgill1000 Ugh my family had/has a small VHS drawer that has the most AWFUL plastic/rubber rotten smell to it that I swear it has had since we bought it. Its nostalgic but also my nose wants to throw up.
The "writing" you could see in the paper while shining light on the back is the paper watermark. That is how you could tell if a letter was on high bond paper when that was a thing of importance.
I learned a new thing, thanks.
Most likely, it was "Classic Crest Writing", one of the most common watermarked papers...
New old stock IBM on LGR? This is what I live for!
Yes!
Lol we're such nerds... but ya know we make the world turn... without having to restart... lol
I have fond memories of these convertibles. I bought a second hand Toshiba T1200 that I used in highschool in the 90s, years after after the things came out. It had a damn power switch to turn on/off the internal 10mb hard drive to conserve battery power. My friends at the lunch table would turn it off while I was trying to play Prince of Persia. Bastards. The display wasn't great but it was still magic to me to be portably computing in the first place. Never seen the removable display before!!! Awesome...
Yeah, my dad had one of those for work, it was my first computer. I still have it somewhere, and I think he ended up getting a second one for some reason. I learned all the dos commands on that thing, and used to play indycar racing and lemmings on it! Also typed up and printed many things for school using word 5 for dos, and the HP ThinkJet printer long before most people had computers at home, and the teachers used to not like the fact that I did things on the computer instead of by hand.
LGR needs a late night unboxing segment. Candles, red velvet table covering, glass of wine and a satin backdrop while sultry jazz is playing. These unboxings are getting hot! :D Great show as always!
This was the first laptop I saw in person. My instructor brought hers to class one day. I was in awe of the thing. It was so much smaller than the 286 machines were were learning on.
But they had previous computer generation’s tech inside.
There seems to be some surprising similarities between the PC Convertible and the Apple IIc, especially with the way IBM did the cantilevered monitor stand. (The IIc had an optional LCD screen that looked a lot like the Convertible's as well.)
I love these IBM I take care of an elderly gentlemen who worked for IBM almost 40 years. Who helped oversee the installation of the SABRE computer system which was used to track air traffic through the US. He also oversaw the teams that tracked the results of the 1964 Olympics in Japan where he got to be drinking buddies with the son of the emperor. And the subsequent British Olympics where he stayed with one of the ladies in waiting to the queen and her husband. Anything IBM brings back memories which is good due to the fact he suffers from early onset Alzheimer's.
I love him and I have never met him!
What a exciting history that man has.
CNN: Man Found A 32 Year Old New in Box Computer And Setting It Up For The First Time
Haha! Oh CNN. For context:
www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/tech/30-year-old-apple-computer-work-trnd/index.html
I loved getting a notification for that on Microsoft news
@@cappaculla That's why we love him. Honestly, would do the same thing.
I actually have a fully functional apple IIe computer in my room right now. My brother got it from someone who was throwing away stuff out of their shed. It's apparently a school computer. Guy had floppy drives, monitor, computer/keyboard itself and even a printer.
Saw that yesterday. I liked how the most reliable computer ever made, they were surprised still worked.
WRONG! It's totally January 4th 1980. The computer knew it all along.
Get. This. To. The. *Top.*
We live in a simulation
Wtf are you all talking about
@@babushkablyattv2751 learn what jokes are please
@deformedmau5
Learn how to make them, first.
I'm waiting for LGR to setup a new abacus in a box that has been sealed for 30,000 years :D ;) Would make a great April Fools Day video....just sayin'
Hahaha that would be awesome
Let's see if he can play Duke Nukem 3D on it
Or make one out of LEGO bricks?
@@suborbitalprocess If anyone could play Duke Nukem on a abacus it would be LGR :D
Robert Kosinski yes
I just imagined Clint coming home after a pretty stressful day, collapsing in his old armchair, reaching behind to grab a Model F keyboard, taking a deeeep whiff... Ahhh... much better...
I think he's more fond of the Model M keyboards.
I find myself needing to fill my house with old computers after videos like this.
Same. I wish I could afford to collect things like this.
@@em84c yeah i like computers the only computer i used and is using today is a windows 7 i have used a windows 10 but i use my windows 7 just for myself
I misread the title as "Setting Up An Abused 1986 IBM PC Convertible" and my heart stopped for a second
I would still contact IBM and kindly ask them for a screen replacement or repair. With this occasion, I would fill out the warranty card.
Since IBM sold their Laptop and PC business off, I guess you would have to contact Lenovo. Sounds like twice the fun :)
@@kpanic23 i doubt that since Lenovo only got the Thinikpad brand, stuff like this IBM laptop would still be property of IBM
flex tape guy: "Thats alot of damage!"
Clint: "Thats alot of dos!"
Sweet! More nostalgia from a time I didn't live in.
MOOD
S A M E
I love seeing LGR excited about various stuff
He's just so genuine
8:37 -- *Exactly* what I sound like after sniffing new computer parts.
Seriously though, great video and find. I've never had the pleasure of unboxing and setting up this model, but hope to one day!
8:22 is the moment when Clint sniffs the keyboard !
@Robin Persaud
Geek level 10+.... love it.
keyboard sniffer
There's just something so incredibly satisfying about watching and hearing you unbox, unpack, and install old computer parts. I can't place why.
The 8 bit guy must be jealous
Double jealous. It's a 16bit machine ;)
8 bit guy would like a word.
@@beware_the_moose He should rather have a WordPerfect...
@@beware_the_moose 1 WORD is still 8 bits too many
The 8-Bit Guy acquired it for Clint.
I don't know if you have much Brazilian fans, but I love your videos!
Seeing you reviewing games and computers of my childhood it's awesome, and your acid humour makes it all even more fun!
Keep the good work!
Cheers 😁✌️
Nice. I love those old keyboards. They don't make portable keyboards with full keys like those anymore.
That sound of that A and B drive is so nostalgic. It never fails me to bring smile to my face.
If you want to re-bond that broken plastic chip as cleanly and strongly as possible, *forget glue.* Get some *acetone*, line up the part with the crack and practice seating it in one motion. Then put just a dab of acetone all along the "crack face" (the inside edge of the plastic where it broke). You want enough that it wets the entire surface but doesn't run and drip. I used to put it on both edges, but found this to be unnecessary. Give it a sec or two then stick it in the crack. Hold it for a minute or two and it should be bonded perfectly.
You want to do it in one move because depending on the size of the crack and how much acetone you put on it may bond instantly or you may have to hold for a couple of minutes. Either way, you don't have much time to set and adjust it once the first parts touch. I've done this with lots of broken off parts in vintage plastic and when you get it right, you can't even see it unless looking really close. Even if you don't get it lined up perfectly and can see or feel the crack's edge, it's still a perfect bond. *Unlike glue, it will be as strong as the plastic around it* (I suspect with brittle, aged plastic, sometimes maybe stronger).
As far as I know this only works with ABS and ABS-like plastics. The good thing is that ABS is very common in consumer goods and I'm like 90% sure that broken part is ABS. ABS dissolves in acetone so applying it to the edge melts it just a bit. When you press it in the crack it'll spread to the other edge, the two edges' polymers co-mingle and once the acetone is gone (it either absorbs into the rest of the plastic or just evaporates away, I'm not sure) it's like one part again.
BTW acetone is one of the safest and least toxic solvents available to consumers so don't let anyone scare you off with warnings of scary "nasty chemicals". It's not like benzene or something.
yea but solvent welding (I use sci grip 4) wont do squat once you apply glue so you have to scrape it clean which makes the gap bigger, I cringe whenever I see someone glue ABS or similar plastic willy nilly "oh check out this NOS blah blah blah" snots 99 cent superglue all over it, yep that will hold for about 8 seconds
@@osgeld Well at least here he used Gorilla Glue CA gel. It'll be fine. I just think solvent welds are better when possible.
@@urdnal and osgel, I think he was joking
I was born in Oct, 1986...
This machine is high quality :-)
These IBM computers were so unique. It’s sucks that they had to exit the PC business, I hate Lenovo with their new laptops.
Yup Lenovo has kinda destroyed what once was the best line of laptops ever made. I still have my IBM T43p from 2006 and it's a lovely machine and a real Windows XP workhorse to say the least. On the other hand I have a Lenovo T410s which is from around 2011 and this thing already has some broken plastic parts and thermal throttles a lot. I'm glad it has a real ThinkPad style keyboard though and not one of those crappy chiclet keyboards you find on the T430 and upwards which feels like you are typing on a stone brick or something
DJ Slinus I had a Lenovo laptop that had a terrible screen. Their built quality for those screens is bad, the screen went blank, they had to fix and replace my Lenovo.
Those cheap keyboards are like ripping off the MacBook keyboards.
@@Markimark151 yup changing the keyboard is the most stupid decision Lenovo ever made. Ripping of an already terrible keyboard to make it even worse seemed like a great idea to them when they designed the T430. The screens at least on my ThinkPads are not the worst but from a built quality perspective I can definetly relate to what you said. On my T400 the screen flex cable broke twice. The first time it broke I took the whole unit apart and changed out the broken cable for a new one which cost me roughly 25 dollars. The second time it broke I didn't even bother and just removed the screen entirely. Now it works great as a "halftop" computer connected to an older but still great 1280 * 1024 LCD Monitor.
@DJ Slinus I despise when companies try to focus on style over functionality. I want LCD screens that are reliable and comfortable keyboards.
@@nilswegner2881 I beg to differ. I've used thinkpads since my first one in 1997 and my current T470s is as awesome as any IBM made thinkpad I've had. The plastic has an amazing feel, feels as or more solid than any of my previous thinkpads (still owns a few older ones) despite the thinness, it has user replaceable batteries and is serviceable. No glued everything closed everything crap as many others do. The chicklet keyboard is wonderful as well.
The one I had plastic bits break off was the first 365x I had, my IBM ThinkPad A22p got graphical errors after just four years (pink lines on the screen, gpu failure). The bad thinkpads are those super cheap ones.
Ahhh the memories these videos bring! My dad worked for IBM and we always got to keep the machines after they upgraded. My first PC was an XT and it still works to this day! I’ll always remember at five years old, my dad and I didn’t play catch, or fish, or ride bikes. We were glued to the wonderful green screen! Pirates of the Barbary Coast is still one of my favorite games.
could the line on screen be corruption due to where you connect the screen to the unit?..have you tried cleaning out the contacts there dude?
Possibly the solder needs re-flowed in the screen? Was gonna say missing lines is a common problem on old DMG game boys and that's how you fixed it
I thought this as well, maybe a dodgy connection
adventureoflinkmk2 Reflowing entire devices is not the panacea that some people think. If it's a bad panel to PCB connection, it may just be the zebra strips, which (if used in this model) are held in place by their rubbery springiness, not solder.
I'm not 100% positive but if memory serves the line is by design. I want to say this was a limitation at the time but I do not recall the technical details.
+Nick Carrigan | I recall an early Pentium Toshiba Satellite notebook (32 Mb RAM, Windows 98, pithy CPU) that had a 800x600 color LCD stacked together from two almost-discreet panels. If I'd encountered that IBM portable in its time, or even just a few years later, I'd still be in awe, and the "defective" line would be seen as "by design".
Those springs in the 3.5" drive have been under tension for..... decades!
That sound of the disk ejection gave me happy tingles.
“You got the goods?”
“Yea, yea...”
*snorts some fresh toxic plastic oder from IBM tech*
I know next to nothing about old computers and what I do know I learned from LGR but there's something incredibly zen about the videos on this channel that instantly mellows me out. The perfect channel to grab a cup of morning coffee and watch with breakfast before all the shit you gotta do during the day starts and I don't even eat breakfast!
Breaking News: LGR manages to somehow get another brand new computer from the stone age
Yesbody takes a chore from 30 years ago and makes it entertaining quite like LGR
It looks like a great computer And I am sure It must have cost a fortune too.
Computers are indeed made of rocks. Various silicates and metals go into them.
I think he has mastered time travel.
I *love* how the keyboard lifts into a more comfortable typing position when you open the screen!
"That smells fresh"
More steve1989 references, *Nice.*
Nice hiss
@@ZakB96 let's get this out on a tray, nice
LGR's unboxing videos are the retro computing equivalent of Steve.
Awesome. I most enjoy vintage computer building and demos on this channel!
he didnt even attempt to run DOOM on it??
Attempting to run DOOM on this computer will put you in a MOOD.
That would be difficult to even fit doom on a 720k floppy. 3-demon was the closest thing to doom that would run on one of these. It's 3d pac man.
@Sammy Smith 2d castle Wolfenstein would run, but no way on wolf 3d
@@travis1240 Commander Keen could work
If it has a CPU, It can run DOOM
- somebody on the internet
Whoever I sold my old IBM 700c PS/2 laptop to back in the late 90's...... I WANT IT BACK! Man do I miss the old technology. Something different about it compared to today.
Great Video Clint! Look forward to that video of its History. Thanks!!
I remember this one. Someone I knew a while back had one of these with a busted A Drive, the B Drive worked with some discs but not the DOS it came with. The convertible monitor was also no good so it was used with a VGA monitor (I believe the convertible monitor had burned out - it displayed nothing). It was mainly used as a word processor and spreadsheet keeper. It also reeked of sulphur since it was exposed to chemical reactions in a lab for over ten years. A familiar smell that is far more suited to wood than plastic, lol
I think it is amazing that a machine, which was produced more that three decades ago and have never been powered up since then works perfectly (...or at least works to some degree, after a bit of tweaking) when powered on for the first time. Consider all the moving parts still working, all of the magnetic readers etc. Amazing!
I desperatly need the boot discs for this system i have one but no discs for it and have had a hard time finding them online.
Send him an email. If he has the time he might shoot em back to you.
Send him an email and I'm commenting to up your comment.
Already did and he got me taken care of. Becaue he is boss
I like chicken nuggets
Vetusware has images for both disks.
That rising keyboard mechanism is so beautiful. I normally don't find myself feeling particularly fond for 80s IBM's design aesthetic for the most part, but that is one sexy assembly for as boxy and utilitarian as it is.
This is going to sound like Tmi but having this play in the background helped me stay relaxed for a nausea spell, lol. Thanks Clint!
For real though, what a fascinating little computer!
@@coolL9457 ok?
I just love that new LGR Logo! Well done, sensei!
A time capsule! Congratulations!!!
This is a thing of beauty. Truly is a joy watching you unbox and start this baby up, Clint!
Where TF are you finding boxed 35 year old computers?
And can you hook me up too?
@Sir Nicholas D WAT. There is plenty of NOS hardware on the market. Question is what price are you happy to pay for it.
The modular design is crazy modern. Some of the ideas from this would work great with a laptop/phone design.
Yay! Coffee, LGR, Relax.
Never has a truer word been spoken
YES
Definitely
The song of the keyboardist just so satisfying. And the screen looks really cool in fact.
adjusting for inflation you can say you own a $6000 computer
Wouldn't even be close to the most expensive computer he's reviewed, and I think some of those were thousands of dollars back in the day and not inflated! And to think, back then they'd be outdated within months
@@matthewmlodzienski453
The SGI Indigo graphics workstation he looked at once would have been worth something like 40 grand in 1993 dollars. For true PCs, the PS/2 Model 90 XP at ~$18 000 for 1990.
I had a (company paid for...) PS/2 P70 386 portable around '90. That was an US$10,500 computer at the time, just to put into perspective.
I got to have a play with one of these about 20 odd years ago when someone asked me to fix theirs up for them. Amazing piece of kit. You should totally fill out that registration form and see what IBM make of it
I hope you plan to donate your mint condition machines to a museum some day.
He's said in the past one of his goals is to open one I think.
I love your old PC unboxing stuff so much. Its so much more satisfying than a modern cutting edge computer
Ah, dinner time candy! Clint, if you come to Turkey, concact me. There is a saying here, "welcome him as kings". You will be a 'guest king' :D
Your channel makes me so happy. You are putting the knowledge you gained out there for everyone by being passionate and letting that drive you. keep it up man, brings a smile to my face.
there is nothing better in this world that opening something that is like over 20 + 30 + years old and brand new aaaaaaaaaaaa + the smell
Clint you sniff that computer and DOS book like you are sampling a fine wine. I love it. Nothing beats the smell of a brand new IBM computer! Especially the books that came with them, the Guide to Operations and DOS books always had this unique smell to them that was quite intoxicating, at least to a geek like me! Glad its still working, even though it was never used, who knows how it was kept the last 30 years or so. Im suprised the floppies worked as well as they did. Keep up the good work!
Closed, it looks exactly like my nebulizer.
I love the sound of floppy drives. Brings me back to a bygone era, ahhh when times were easy.
Old technology is the best
I had, and still have, a later-model PC Convertible with a backlit screen - I always found it very pleasant to use, thanks to the screen, the exceptional keyboard (brown Alps switches!), and the wonderfully sensible design, despite the 8088 CPU which was a little long in the tooth even in 1986. Just lovely execution by IBM overall. Thanks for spotlighting it.
I drive a 1986 Pontiac Trans Am.
Neighbor had one . So many dead bugs on it lol.
Here is mine th-cam.com/video/9wfb_iFvlC4/w-d-xo.html
I owned a '79 Trans Am. Looked awesome, was slow as shit.
@@poolboyinla I love the car! Very cool to see one up and running and looking so good. Brings back some great memories of the 80's. Cool video - I subscribed :) Cheers! Edit: I just noticed it said you quit making videos. Do you video blog anywhere else?
@Chris WG. Thanks for subscribing. I actually have some very interesting videos coming up on this channel. I did recently start a 2nd channel, but I don't promote it to my audience of this channel because it is very different and I am more uncensored there about certain topics. As for my car, I absolutely love it. It's funny how 3rd gen Firebirds are kind of rare these days and you almost never see them in good condition like mine. Despite it being such a popular car in the 80's, it seems largely forgotten and younger people have never seen a nice one. It is wild because when people see mine, a lot of people think it is some new futuristic car or that it is some exotic car I imported from Europe.
I know this will get lost down in the comments, but I recently just got my first "vintage" PC (Pentium 4) after my father, whom bless his heart, doesn't understand old computers and instead of jsut smashing the hard drive destroyed every PCB in my families old Windows 98 PC. But mainly you (LGR) and The 8-Bit Guy are what have gotten me back into my love of these old PCs.
welcome back to an LGR THING
Got one of these from my uncle awhile back! It's so weird seeing one that's not well loved and yellowed!
this video is pure edutainment.
Did you watch The Weekly Planet this morning?
@@Bl00dwerK no why?
I'm glad we get the whole sensory experience with these unboxings.
Microsoft should release Donkey for Windows 10
What I'd do (and this is because I have BASICA and QBasic on my computer via DOSBox) is that I'd load the program and punch in LIST. Now, I don't have a modern BASIC interpreter, yet, but there's plenty available. What you do then is, depending on how DONKEY.BAS is coded, it could be as easy as loading it up with a Notepad. A while ago, I was trying convert an Apple ][ BASIC game into an MS-DOS format until it got a little annoying. I may have to figure out some other way to decode.
Chaos89P Older Apple systems used CR between lines instead of CRLF or LF like other systems. So using a basic tool like perl to fix that is a good first step.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 I don't know exactly how to use perl, honestly.
It must be magical seeing old tech like this virtually brand new
Ahhhh vintage computer noises. I fired up a P3 Win 98 laptop last week and my fiance thought I had cranked up the Dyson. From the other room she goes "thanks for vacuuming babe, but I already did."
Oh no my dear, just an old pentium machine.
The way of putting the printer on the PC is really amazing. Finally i knew an usage of the weired ports on these old stuffs, cool.
Those sweet skcm browns
Lovely tactile Alps switches, ahh.
I can tell how much you love this. I share your excitement!
The screens on those things are the worst. Worse ghosting than a Gameboy. Love the design though
Sega Game Gear had more ghosting to me.
@@Copper20 I had the one with the "better" screen and it was pretty much impossible to see anything moving on the screen. Games are pretty much impossible
I set one of these up for a client in 1986. Ah, the warm memories of working in the College computer lab. No network, no internet, just Wordperfect and a printer. Always had to unjam the printers. That's what I mostly did in the library.
Nice convertible but can it run
Loom EGA?
My very first PC. This is where I learned DOS. I had an Apple II plus before this, but this is when I turned to using PCs. My dad sold insurance in the 1980s and this allowed him to right policies in the field and print out documents for clients. Once he upgraded to the next PC I inherited this from him. Also I got a backlit screen upgrade too.
You should so take that to a starbucks. Sit right next to someone with an imac. Ask them what they are working on. If they start to tell you cut them off. Say your working on a novel and start rehashing some John Hughes movie, see if they get the reference.
He could even print a page of his book for them to see
That was the first computer we owned. My dad picked it up at an auction. It didn’t have the original fold up monitor- we hooked it up to a VGA. I remember playing Zork on it for hours.
I am here looking for an IBM 5100
I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets excited about this stuff.
That transition from the hip-hop”ish” beat background music to the late 80s early 90s fancy restaurant low volume tune was pretty smooth.
13:23 “That’s a lot a DOS”
That’s what she said
I love how excited you get with unboxings. I would be as well, especially with a computer as old as this having never been used.
74 people who disliked have no idea about computers lol
There's something about this old packaging that is really satisfactory for me.
Speaking Of DOS, I have a story from 2005. So I was 3 in 2005, and I found this mysterious machine as what I called it, I powered it on and it booted to Windows 98, I was 3 back at that time, So I was used to Windows XP, But anyway, I found what looked like a copy of Doom II, It was very early in the morning, So I was thinking to my self that if I launched the game, Mom and Dad would be upset, So I just turned off the computer and when I told my parents years later in 2017 about the story, They did not remember having a machine with Windows 98, So, Yeah. I forgot about that story years ago and remembered the story in 2017. Just wanted to share a story with everyone's favorite retro TH-camr. Hopefully this story made you have at least a small chuckle, Sincerely ~ Tropicalbeachfan2004 himself
Tropicalbeachfan2004 You make me feel like I’m 1000 years old…
Me2 🙂
It might have been a past life memory.
I love that you gave it a sniff. My GF thinks its weird when i do that to old electronics. They just have that great vintage smell.
I also like the smell of old books.
I've been binging on these the last few days and the excited, delighted laugh every time he plays with old tech is my favorite thing