QLD have far more class during Origin. Cam Smith certainly shows this with his unbiased commentary. Meanwhile Joeys spits the dummy when Blues are losing & doesn’t seem to acknowledge how good QLD are.
🤣, wait you are from Victoria and you are a Blues supporter? Considering how many of the great storm players came from Queensland? Queensland with a smattering of some Kiwi's is practically the Melbourne Storm.
I feel your pain man. I’m a Cowboys and NSW fan. I mean good on Cotter, Taulagi and Holmes for their performances in game 1, but as a Blue, bloody hell!!!
Teddy is a goat no doubt but why we clinging onto the past, hes clearly not in form why we gonna throw an origin series because of reputation. Clear upgrades available
Braith looked humbled here, absolutely bagged Walsh thinking he wasn’t going to play well with Minichello comment to bash & target him. Simple reason again why NSW never will understand Origin.
@@mickusachus too many egos in that Blues team destroying the NSW culture. Start off by getting rid of that flog carting around that boom box around camp, f#*!ing cringeworthy. You’ll never see that in a QLD setup!
I don't think he's too overrated. He has these hypnotic sideways runs along the defensive line and it's like he's got spiders on him. Nobody wants to touch him, and then suddenly he's halfway through and passing the ball to someone else.
For me its Nathan Cleary. Bloke gets compared to Thurston and he's no where near. The only reason he looks good at club level is coz his forward pack are superior to their opposition..
Why do nsw media or this nrl 360 ALWAYS omit Lockyers name when taking about origin greats?? He’s the greatest of the lot of them in that arena. It can’t be a coincidence it’s literally every time I’ve noticed
@@CommissionerManu there’s no qld streak without Lockyer. All those boys say they learnt the mentality from Lockyer. Darren is the qld spirit personified, the ultimate big game player. Never lost a grand final either and won more than any of the other qld legends. They don’t mention him but if their life was on the line in golden point they’d all want Locky first name on their team list Could it be his involvement with channel 9?
@sloppygoo im pretty sure Cam Smith has the most wins in a maroon jersey but i agree with everything else you said. I dont know why they snub Lockyer ay
Yep, that was getting in the way of the sets that yeo & cleary were setting up aswell. The bloke can’t tackle either.. bring in Edward end and watch the boys cook
@@jaycee571 Totally agree mate he doesn't know how to straighten the attack and set up his supports and would be a much better player if he did. He really stifled Turbo's game by constantly being in the backline and running sideways.
That Panthers combo needs to be broken up . They can't handle getting in the trenches and when their nose is in front they carry on like they've lifted the shield
NSW Don’t Get Origin Kenty was right the QLD jersey means much more to them 😂 Ah Joey you have no idea…perhaps getting belted by Goddard has effected you even to this day.
Amazing how Buzz says "Origin is about winning 3 games" but doesn't want players dropped coz legacy/loyalty/"they're a champion", but wants to make Fitler a scapegoat 🙃
Billy's philosophy was absolutely accurate especially when people thought putting people in certain positions was questionable however he's shown as one of the best ever decisions made and got it right.
The problem with Freddy is he can’t make the tough call with Cleary & Luai. Wighton forced into retirement due to the politics now you have Burton who offers far more than Luai at 6 as 18th man. It’s bizarre considering Freddy should know being a former five eighth?
Its kind of Ironic because Luai was actually not that bad, he was pretty good on the night, I mean Luai, Crighton and To'o played pretty well. Maybe have Burton as a Center or bring someone else in as Turbo looked like he was still injured and unfortunately he got injured again.
Look at the Test Cricket team. You can't tell me Warner deserves to still be there. You've got to evolve your team and pick players on form and not past exploits! Billy was on the money!🤔
Anyone with a footy mind could see Walsh was the right decision and gagai is a origin legend but lacking some form compared to Fidow who’s been playing really well up at the dolphins! Great Origin Win and very proud of ALL the boys!!
If you're involved in letting in a couple tries and failing to score one yourself in greedily not passing the ball... surely you dont deserve to play fullback in game 2.
Why are they talking about Tedesco and know one is talking about Cleary. When you’re up the scoreboard and the opposition is a man down and a heap of injury it’s up to the dominant half (cleary) to control that game. Remember the great QLD teams. Lockyer controlled it, thurston controlled it, cronk controlled it. Cleary and Louai went missing in the last 10 when they needed them. I’d drop cleary and louai before teddy
The truth is the Maroon's don't need to defend. They could have won that match without making a single tackle. The fans need hope or they wouldn't watch.
In the past, Teddy & Turbo have been fabulous players. It's now time to hang up their origin boots! I hope with all my heart Trell can play ..... even if he is on crutches!
I don't think Teddy and Turbo or the Fox had much opportunity. Every play (if it wasn't Haas hitting up) went with the same formula. Api to cleary to luai to Crichton to To'o. It was so frustrating as a blues fan. The panthers originals had too much ball nobody was given a chance. Hynes is a play director. How the hell can he direct play with all those A Listers on the field. It's funny how he was pushed to the right hand attacking side where they were sitting having double skim lattes and all the action was on the left side
@@TjJay-ev6mx Teddy had more than 20 runs on Wednesday night. I can only recall him passing the ball once - and that was ruled forward !! Why didn't he offload to Addo-Carr in the first half instead of trying to score himself (and getting held up over the line)? I know that Mitchell is not every fan's choice for fullback - but at least he looks to set up the players around him.
Slater is the difference for me.His League IQ is so far above all but the likes of Wayne Bennett it defies belief plus he has the fortitude to make tough calls BEFORE it becomes obvious they need to be made. Picking players out of form on past form is fine if your winning if not it is a recipe for disaster. In the real world likes of Tedesco and Turbo are hardly playing up to NRL standard let alone Origin level. We will never know but I would bet my last dollar if Slater was NSW coach likes of Edwards/Hynes would be straight into the side.
anyone who says Teddy needs to be dropped doesn't get origin. Let's take it back to 2021 when the captain of QLD Daly Cherry Evans gets absolutely fisted by NSW to a worse extant that Teddy did last night. Not one person was saying "drop DCE" after one of the worst Origin series for a captain ever. QLD have stuck true to DCE after that series as a captain and look at him now, he is going to go down a QLD legend. Sure Teddy has had a slump but let's not forgot he's the captain. Sure drop him at the end of this year if we lose the series but dropping your captain after an 8 point loss is a way to get flogged in game 2. If anyone should be copping the criticism for last night it's the golden boy Nathan Cleary, the man who tweets out "keen for origin" and smirks at the camera before kick off but then goes missing for 80 minutes, hell Luai was better then him by a mile!. Everyone's using Teddy as the scapegoat but let's not forget the missed tackles that led to the line breaks (To'o being out of position, Addo Carr missed tackle, no one chasing Lindsay and helping Teddy). It was a poor display from the team, not just Teddy and putting in another Panther is not the option, as the ones from last night were rubbish.
I agree but thats mostly due to a necessity too, without moving players out of position, QLD really had no one to replace DCE. This tedesco conversation is only happening because they are so many people (turbo, mitchell, edwards) who can replace him. I agree with the lack of criticism at cleary, but fittler has to take responsibility for not getting him out of there with hynes on the bench, who he had no discernable plan for.
I agree in many ways. NSW management/media/supporters view their team like a K-Pop dance group. Always ready to criticize and pull out the knives when they don't perform. Us Qld'ers rarely do that. If our players play badly, we feel for them, we share the pain with them. We don't hang them out to dry. I remember when Hodges had shockers, and even Lockyer in his early days didn't do well at F/Back, we didn't crucify them in front of the horde. Teddy should be picked again, not because he has a free pass etc, but rather because how good a player he is. He will be more hungry to redeem himself in game 2.
@@imalwaysright i’m a Manly fan. Don’t mind the Panthers actually and thought Martin, Crichton, To’o and even Luai at points were all terrific. Just my opinion on the Teddy situation.
What difference is he gonna make? You got Yeo, Cleary, Martin in the Blues you still can’t beat QLD 😂 Picking Panthers ain’t gonna do S#*t! QUEENSLANDER!
Lol teddy should get a pass cause he's played some really good games in the past 😂 that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard. Well congratulations QLD on another series win and onto next year.
Club combos not necessary. Do walsh and grant play in same club team? What about dce and munster? The whole idea of club combos is roles for mates. Best inform player in correct position. You dont hire an electrician to fix your toilet nor a carpenter as a chef!
I never bought into the "NSW have the better players" crap coming into this game.. I think over the last 5 years we've (blues) had better talent to pick from, but that gap is being closed with the new generation coming through. We might be in for more heartache in the coming years if we keep Freddy on and QLD keep Slater.
I think Qld has the better forward pack, NSW has the better backs. But the backs for NSW were not even relevant in this match. NSW pack, in particular, Liam Martin took it to Qld, and I think the Qld forward pack underperformed in attack.
Yeah but NSWs is capable of being dominant as seen in the 90s. I thought with the post Slater/Cameron Smith/JT era, Surely NSW would have 3 in a row by now
NSW don't have better players, and neither does QLD. Cleary and Luai are examples of players working well in a well coached team at club level. Neither has another level to go up to, and very few players do, but Munster is one who does have the extra level. Cleary and Luai benefit so much from the two premier frontrowers who lay the platform which gives them time and space to shine at club level. That time and space is not available in Origin games ( mostly ).
A knock-on everyday was ruled a try. A committed tackle was ruled as a sin bin offense. All done by the video ref. The video refs should be investigated because it seemed as though they were in it to decide who was to win Game 1. But credit to the Maroons for sticking it right up there!
Need to adjust the HIA BS. If a player gets up normally, and is not wobbling around like he doesn't know what day it is, then leave him on till the end of the current set
No excuses, the difference was The Hammer, before that was Munster but Hammer showed up foxx and teddy with easy like nothing, if it wasn't for him being there other than gagai , nsw would've won, that's just it
The main difference is that QLD pick on form whereas NSW pick on past reputation. Teddy has past his use by date and should be replaced by Dylan Edwards.
That's not completely true. NSW often pick on club form but don't consider whether the person is an Origin player. We will not pick on club form but look at whether they are demonstrating and have demonstrated Origin qualities.
As good a bloke as Fittler is, he isn't much of a coach. That's evident by the fact he debuted players like TBJ and Hudson Young and STARTED them, instead of his best 13. He selected these players because of some vague "NSW aren't going to be bullied" reason. Also his plan for Hynes was to plonk him on the bench for 80 minutes, or until an outside back went down injured. On the flip side, Slater chose and utilised each of his 4 interchange players effectively. As long as Slater is QLD's coach, and Fittler NSW's, they will always be inferior to QLD.
Fittler’s been out-coached again ! Luai was better than Cleary, Tedesco was awful and always got in the way. The right side never seen any ball in good position, and when they were Tedesco ruined it. Tommy Turbo was 40% fit, at best. And worst of all of that - He picks the reigning Dally M winner, has him sitting on the bench for 68 minutes, and only gives him a run when there’s an injury. Hynes wouldn’t have played if Turbo didn’t get injured, so why not pick someone who was gonna be used ?! If Qld win the series, Fittler’s job is untenable!!!
Hahaha I was about to comment the exact same thing Hooper said - Buzz has been covering Origin for decades and he was still naive enough to think QLD were gone??!! This bloke doesn't know footy it's as simple as that
Hoops nailed it on the head with Teddy. Teddy was responsible for 4 tries being given. Edwards is the best fullback in the comp at the moment and Latrell is doing well too but the injury scares aren’t ideal. Edwards deserved that jersey for Game 1. If he didn’t impress then it could’ve been given back to Tedesco for Game 2 simple as that.
I did not watch the game, so I do not know how each person played but I cannot understand how Tedescoe was selected or how any of the doggies were selected. Roosters are down, teddy only scored one try all year, right? Carr has just come back from a long injury layoff. Even dog supporters criticise that pangai can be lazy. Why were they selected. I dont watch anyomre vecause I just know that QLD play with a stronger spirit than NSW. NSW players are all bark and no bite.
The media needs to stop writing off QLD before games! How do the Maroons always end up the underdogs when we’re leading in series wins! What’s shocking is these headlines they keep coming up with! QLD ALWAYS TURN UP! NO MATTER WHAT! 💪🏾👊💥
I agree, but they're all now writing NSW off for game 2 at Suncorp, saying NSW don't have a chance. You watch, NSW will bounce back in game 2 and take the win
Tedesco having "money in the bank" ... can you cash that in after a loss? No? Well that should tell you all you need to know. Cleary underperformed, Luai won't pass to anyone that isn't a Panther, Turbo shouldn't have even been there, Tedesco is cooked (QLD have him figured out) and Freddy just didn't pick the right players. It's that simple. I put $$$ on QLD as soon as I saw the team lineup and got paid out and I don't really care who wins pride-wise one way or the other. NSW just had a terrible side and the inability of people like Ennis and Buzz to acknowledge a poor team and to pick new players who will get the job done means QLD wins game 2. People might say "Oh, well, they're playing in QLD so QLD will always win" is just a cop out for not owning up to terrible selections. The Penrith Panthers vs Maroons is a failed experiment. Gordy was the only one speaking sense that entire time.
Spot on. I've said before, Brisbane were THE side of the 90s. Half of the Qld side were Broncos. How did Queensland fare in SOO in the 90s ? From 1990 to 2000 only 3 series wins. A well coached team doesn't need club combinations. In fact I think it makes it too hard for the guys who ( in this case) aren't Panthers. The Foxx couldn't get the ball.
The shock is that NSW should have dominated the last 10 minutes of Game 1 and secured a win. Very unexpected for Tudesco to fall over and to be outplayed in the leap for that last high ball. Too easy to target him as the scapegoat for the overall performance of the NSW team to not win. In past years, I would be expecting the NSW selectors to make decimating team changes. If QLD team wins Game 2, then the QLD supporters' expectations will be for a whitewash.
My proposed team for game 2. 1. Nicho Hynes 2. Josh Ado Car 3. Litteral Mitchell 4.Campbell Graham 5. Brian To'o 6. Cody Walker 7. Nathan Cleary 8.Jr. Paulo 9. Api Korosai 10. Pane Has 11. Tyson Frizell 12. Cameron Murray 13. Iseya Yeo 14. Damian Cook 15. Liam Martin 16. Tavita Pangai Jr 17. Hudson Young 18. Mat Baton
NSW imploded in the first 5 mins they looked lost yes they had more ball but they did nothing at the critical moments with the ball and just dumb moments in defence
@@thomasrodwell563 no excuse for turbo he can roam...he is not fit. Could not stride out in scoring those tries the other week. I wouldn't be hard on the Fox.
Year after year it’s the same dialogue. There always seems to be a complacency within NSW and they don’t have the same mongrel as QLD. Everyone keeps blaming the backs but they can’t do their job without go forward up the guts!
It's interesting that Braith said, when Reece Walsh touched the ball, 'ran at Payne Haas'. So Haas was holding back because he was tackling his clubland fullback?
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"Maroons shock Blues with miracle win" - after all these years, is it really that much of a shock??😅😅
All the talk about Slater maintaining loyalty yet somehow nothing was mentioned about Freddy’s diabolical selections 😂
After 40 odd years it's par for the course.
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Nope
They just don’t get it NSW
It’s amazing just how composed and mature Gordys opinions are. He is way more articulate than I gave him credit for. Go Bull 👍
He is so much better than Paul Kent too! I’m hoping Fox will keep Tallis on permanently 🤞🏻
QLD have far more class during Origin. Cam Smith certainly shows this with his unbiased commentary. Meanwhile Joeys spits the dummy when Blues are losing & doesn’t seem to acknowledge how good QLD are.
2002 Game 3. Sticking it to the Blues in the crowd with the "F U".
Hahaha 😆
When he is getting picked and ganged on by Matty and Flindi 😅
As a Storm supporter, I love an inform Munster.
As a Blue supporter, I hate an inform Munster.
I feel this.
QLD Knight's fan.
It's a funny feeling to suddenly 'hate' your favourite player.
😂pure gold
Imagine being a storm fan and not being from Victoria. Worst fans. Go hunt that glory 🤝
🤣, wait you are from Victoria and you are a Blues supporter? Considering how many of the great storm players came from Queensland? Queensland with a smattering of some Kiwi's is practically the Melbourne Storm.
I feel your pain man. I’m a Cowboys and NSW fan. I mean good on Cotter, Taulagi and Holmes for their performances in game 1, but as a Blue, bloody hell!!!
Teddy is a goat no doubt but why we clinging onto the past, hes clearly not in form why we gonna throw an origin series because of reputation. Clear upgrades available
The change in Braith Anasta's tone from before the game is amazing 😂 give it to them Gordy 💪
B is a flog 😂😂😂😂
Braith looked humbled here, absolutely bagged Walsh thinking he wasn’t going to play well with Minichello comment to bash & target him. Simple reason again why NSW never will understand Origin.
@@YESITSHISTORY yeah I'm a NSW fan and it's getting hard to watch. Queensland just have too much class
@@mickusachus too many egos in that Blues team destroying the NSW culture. Start off by getting rid of that flog carting around that boom box around camp, f#*!ing cringeworthy. You’ll never see that in a QLD setup!
@@YESITSHISTORY ah yeah. How was it when you were in camp then 😆
Having watched rugby league for over 45 years i think tedessco is the most over rated player ever....i just don't get it....
He was good when he had speed, but that's all he had and now it's gone lol
I don't think he's too overrated. He has these hypnotic sideways runs along the defensive line and it's like he's got spiders on him. Nobody wants to touch him, and then suddenly he's halfway through and passing the ball to someone else.
Lol then you're one of the dumbest fans of in league, which is saying something
For me its Nathan Cleary. Bloke gets compared to Thurston and he's no where near. The only reason he looks good at club level is coz his forward pack are superior to their opposition..
@@kers225abk2 spot on.
Love Lindsay Collins turning himself into a fullback.
Lovin' Gordy. Calm, articulate and knowledgeable.
Why do nsw media or this nrl 360 ALWAYS omit Lockyers name when taking about origin greats?? He’s the greatest of the lot of them in that arena. It can’t be a coincidence it’s literally every time I’ve noticed
Yeah I noticed that one as well, felt really weird tbh. Loved Cronk, but Lockyer is an all time great. Cronk should never be mentioned before Lockyer
@@CommissionerManu there’s no qld streak without Lockyer. All those boys say they learnt the mentality from Lockyer. Darren is the qld spirit personified, the ultimate big game player. Never lost a grand final either and won more than any of the other qld legends. They don’t mention him but if their life was on the line in golden point they’d all want Locky first name on their team list
Could it be his involvement with channel
9?
@sloppygoo im pretty sure Cam Smith has the most wins in a maroon jersey but i agree with everything else you said. I dont know why they snub Lockyer ay
@@sloppygoo Totally agree with you. One of the greatest Maroons of all time in my opinion.
Same thing happens with langer. They hate the broncs?
Teddy was stuck in club footy mindset where he has to do everything and carry the roosters, he can rely on addo carr and pass the ball more
Exactly he was running sideways, hogging the ball, getting in the way running backwards and killing the teams go forward with his sideways running
Yep, that was getting in the way of the sets that yeo & cleary were setting up aswell. The bloke can’t tackle either.. bring in Edward end and watch the boys cook
He's been doing this for years in origin, and no one in media pulls him up.
@@michaelgray9155 Spot on mate, been doing it for years at club and rep footy.
@@jaycee571 Totally agree mate he doesn't know how to straighten the attack and set up his supports and would be a much better player if he did. He really stifled Turbo's game by constantly being in the backline and running sideways.
Billy can axe a players like Gagai and Ponga. Freddy and co are still figuring out how to use the #14 position. #BringbackMaloney
remember fittler dropped maloney and came crawling back to him in game 2
Freddy is no great coach
I luv Billy on how he has brought the game to a whole new level!..Thats experience and it shows.
That Panthers combo needs to be broken up . They can't handle getting in the trenches and when their nose is in front they carry on like they've lifted the shield
Imagine turning up in your sky blue supporter's jersey and the team comes out in a navy blue strip and, to top it off, they play like that...
the navy jerseys were fine
NSW Don’t Get Origin Kenty was right the QLD jersey means much more to them 😂 Ah Joey you have no idea…perhaps getting belted by Goddard has effected you even to this day.
It’s just a shirt 💀 they’ll survive
@@taiyonatiare7918 And that's the difference. To a NSWman, the jersey is just a shirt.
@I'm Always Right navy blue is the Victorian colour. Still, both Mexicans I guess.
No miracles with Queensland, just pure heart ♥️
Gordy makes such good points
Buzz is absolutely demented. Dane Gagai is twice the origin player than Tedesco is.
Amazing how Buzz says "Origin is about winning 3 games" but doesn't want players dropped coz legacy/loyalty/"they're a champion", but wants to make Fitler a scapegoat 🙃
Buzz is a complete tosser. He rarely says anything of value.
NSW have the better players. QLD are the better team.
That NSW are called the cockroaches is ironic, given Queensland are the ones who are impossible to kill off
Billy is a brilliant coach and motivator. Our superior coaching is the biggest difference! Are NSW better on paper? There's not much in it!🤔
qld are next level. they get origin we don't.
Spot on .
Honestly I don’t like Dane not being selected but I like to see qld setting up the younger boys and giving them some experience
Qld never ever out of a match 💯
Billy's philosophy was absolutely accurate especially when people thought putting people in certain positions was questionable however he's shown as one of the best ever decisions made and got it right.
Walsh got smashed in that first touch, then kept doing it. Billy Junior
Teddy's cooked move him along
The problem with Freddy is he can’t make the tough call with Cleary & Luai. Wighton forced into retirement due to the politics now you have Burton who offers far more than Luai at 6 as 18th man. It’s bizarre considering Freddy should know being a former five eighth?
All Burton has is a big bomb luai offers more then attack
All Burton has is a big bomb luai offers more then attack
Its kind of Ironic because Luai was actually not that bad, he was pretty good on the night, I mean Luai, Crighton and To'o played pretty well. Maybe have Burton as a Center or bring someone else in as Turbo looked like he was still injured and unfortunately he got injured again.
@@oxymaiz5662 you mean Luai offers more on attack than Burton?
You think he'll ever drop his mate and NSW captain Tedesco? Not a chance in hell.
Look at the Test Cricket team. You can't tell me Warner deserves to still be there. You've got to evolve your team and pick players on form and not past exploits! Billy was on the money!🤔
Warner was nuts he went 3/4 years past the age Ponting and Clarke retired despite not being 10% the player they were
Wrong coloured jersey, it should of been light blue.. lol. Go QLD
Yes, I looked like the Victorian VFL team back in the days when AFL used to have State v State
Not just teddy's position
Giving a player a gold pass just on reputation is the exact reason why NSW will struggle to win another origin series. Thats insanity!
Pick and stick!
Talk about the pot......
Where's Kenty?
He's gone with all the other NSW supporters. Queenslander 💪
@@jonnonz9430well played.
At your mum's house
@@kimjongun269 LOL
Just busy.
Anyone with a footy mind could see Walsh was the right decision and gagai is a origin legend but lacking some form compared to Fidow who’s been playing really well up at the dolphins!
Great Origin Win and very proud of ALL the boys!!
It's a 8/10 performance.
The lack of concussions
& absence of any type of biff was
Definitely a detraction from the overall experience.
@@IvyMay-qn2ys and a 0/10 for your useless comment
Freddy has to make the tough call like Billy did dropping gagai and pongo. Teddy needs to go
As the great Gordon Tallis stated, No one owns the jersey. You let in three tries at fullback in one game, you look for other options.
If you're involved in letting in a couple tries and failing to score one yourself in greedily not passing the ball... surely you dont deserve to play fullback in game 2.
1 Edwards
2 To'o
3 Crichton
4 Mitchell
5 Graham
6 Hynes
7 Cleary
8 Trbojevic (if fit)
9 Koroisou
10 Haas
11 Frizell
12 Martin
13 Murray
How is frizell the best NSW have in the back row?
Yeah and they will still lose mate .
I really like that team. I reckon bench should be Cook, RCG, Paulo, and Young
Also I'd have Turbo over Crichton. I love Crichton's defence but he doesn't offer much on attack
We are skilled enough to win and it’s not a shock to any Qlder
Why are they talking about Tedesco and know one is talking about Cleary. When you’re up the scoreboard and the opposition is a man down and a heap of injury it’s up to the dominant half (cleary) to control that game. Remember the great QLD teams. Lockyer controlled it, thurston controlled it, cronk controlled it. Cleary and Louai went missing in the last 10 when they needed them. I’d drop cleary and louai before teddy
Gordy feels bad for em lol
They never mention the Maroons defence in the game.
The truth is the Maroon's don't need to defend.
They could have won that match without making a single tackle.
The fans need hope or they wouldn't watch.
In the past, Teddy & Turbo have been fabulous players. It's now time to hang up their origin boots! I hope with all my heart Trell can play ..... even if he is on crutches!
I don't think Teddy and Turbo or the Fox had much opportunity. Every play (if it wasn't Haas hitting up) went with the same formula. Api to cleary to luai to Crichton to To'o. It was so frustrating as a blues fan. The panthers originals had too much ball nobody was given a chance. Hynes is a play director. How the hell can he direct play with all those A Listers on the field. It's funny how he was pushed to the right hand attacking side where they were sitting having double skim lattes and all the action was on the left side
@@TjJay-ev6mx Teddy had more than 20 runs on Wednesday night. I can only recall him passing the ball once - and that was ruled forward !! Why didn't he offload to Addo-Carr in the first half instead of trying to score himself (and getting held up over the line)? I know that Mitchell is not every fan's choice for fullback - but at least he looks to set up the players around him.
@@TjJay-ev6mx teddy had plenty of ball and his defence was hopeless. There are fullbacks that need to replace him
This is why NSW fans are the worst. 1 average game out over 30 between then and you want them gone 🤣🤣.
@@Jp-do9ny Teddy has put in plenty of poor games this season. He should never have been selected.
Qld was the only team that showed up. Ref gave the blues so many Penalties for nothing and not to mention that knock on try. Wtf was that ruling.
Slater is the difference for me.His League IQ is so far above all but the likes of Wayne Bennett it defies belief plus he has the fortitude to make tough calls BEFORE it becomes obvious they need to be made.
Picking players out of form on past form is fine if your winning if not it is a recipe for disaster. In the real world likes of Tedesco and Turbo are hardly playing up to NRL standard let alone Origin level.
We will never know but I would bet my last dollar if Slater was NSW coach likes of Edwards/Hynes would be straight into the side.
I just love the honesty by Braith, he truly says what he believes and not totally biased with his comments.
he wasn't hones when Kenty was suddenly missing from the show 😂😂😂
Did you not listen to him the other day? The halfwit was bagging Reece Walsh 😂
The new Queensland Dynasty is arriving this time 10 series straight.
Keep dreaming 😂
What you forgot the past 8 already…with countless reels of Inglis & Boyd..🤣🤣🤣
You drop teddy and puts everyone else on notice!
Slater was the difference. Fittler is so far out of his depth it’s obvious. Time for a change. Bring Madge in.
Would rather Des Hasler coach NSW, far superior record to Madge.
How much better is this without the flog Kent
Freddy said RCG didn't suit his style of of play....... losing??
Hoops aint as chirpy when his mate kenty isn't there
anyone who says Teddy needs to be dropped doesn't get origin. Let's take it back to 2021 when the captain of QLD Daly Cherry Evans gets absolutely fisted by NSW to a worse extant that Teddy did last night. Not one person was saying "drop DCE" after one of the worst Origin series for a captain ever. QLD have stuck true to DCE after that series as a captain and look at him now, he is going to go down a QLD legend. Sure Teddy has had a slump but let's not forgot he's the captain. Sure drop him at the end of this year if we lose the series but dropping your captain after an 8 point loss is a way to get flogged in game 2.
If anyone should be copping the criticism for last night it's the golden boy Nathan Cleary, the man who tweets out "keen for origin" and smirks at the camera before kick off but then goes missing for 80 minutes, hell Luai was better then him by a mile!. Everyone's using Teddy as the scapegoat but let's not forget the missed tackles that led to the line breaks (To'o being out of position, Addo Carr missed tackle, no one chasing Lindsay and helping Teddy). It was a poor display from the team, not just Teddy and putting in another Panther is not the option, as the ones from last night were rubbish.
I agree but thats mostly due to a necessity too, without moving players out of position, QLD really had no one to replace DCE. This tedesco conversation is only happening because they are so many people (turbo, mitchell, edwards) who can replace him. I agree with the lack of criticism at cleary, but fittler has to take responsibility for not getting him out of there with hynes on the bench, who he had no discernable plan for.
I agree in many ways. NSW management/media/supporters view their team like a K-Pop dance group. Always ready to criticize and pull out the knives when they don't perform. Us Qld'ers rarely do that. If our players play badly, we feel for them, we share the pain with them. We don't hang them out to dry. I remember when Hodges had shockers, and even Lockyer in his early days didn't do well at F/Back, we didn't crucify them in front of the horde. Teddy should be picked again, not because he has a free pass etc, but rather because how good a player he is. He will be more hungry to redeem himself in game 2.
Lol Teddy was awful, defensively bad, at fault for 3 tries and got held up when he selfishly held the ball 😂
a Roosters fan that hates the Panthers 😂😂😂😂
@@imalwaysright i’m a Manly fan. Don’t mind the Panthers actually and thought Martin, Crichton, To’o and even Luai at points were all terrific. Just my opinion on the Teddy situation.
Chuck in Dylan Edwards
What difference is he gonna make? You got Yeo, Cleary, Martin in the Blues you still can’t beat QLD 😂 Picking Panthers ain’t gonna do S#*t! QUEENSLANDER!
@@YESITSHISTORY he’d be a better pick than Ted🤜🏽🤛🏽
Lol teddy should get a pass cause he's played some really good games in the past 😂 that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard. Well congratulations QLD on another series win and onto next year.
it’s NSW thinking.
Not to mention Teddy kept jumping into first receiver and ruining the flow & set up of the Penrith combo, that’s the point of picking club combos.
Club combos not necessary.
Do walsh and grant play in same club team? What about dce and munster?
The whole idea of club combos is roles for mates.
Best inform player in correct position.
You dont hire an electrician to fix your toilet nor a carpenter as a chef!
perhaps its not a miracle, its a working hard
I never bought into the "NSW have the better players" crap coming into this game.. I think over the last 5 years we've (blues) had better talent to pick from, but that gap is being closed with the new generation coming through. We might be in for more heartache in the coming years if we keep Freddy on and QLD keep Slater.
Finally a smart nsw fan lol
I think Qld has the better forward pack, NSW has the better backs. But the backs for NSW were not even relevant in this match. NSW pack, in particular, Liam Martin took it to Qld, and I think the Qld forward pack underperformed in attack.
Yeah but NSWs is capable of being dominant as seen in the 90s. I thought with the post Slater/Cameron Smith/JT era, Surely NSW would have 3 in a row by now
NSW don't have better players, and neither does QLD. Cleary and Luai are examples of players working well in a well coached team at club level. Neither has another level to go up to, and very few players do, but Munster is one who does have the extra level. Cleary and Luai benefit so much from the two premier frontrowers who lay the platform which gives them time and space to shine at club level. That time and space is not available in Origin games ( mostly ).
As a nsw fan for me the turning point was when they let cobbo score that. So so poor, at this level you just can’t miss those tackles
Freddies mate Chrichton
A knock-on everyday was ruled a try. A committed tackle was ruled as a sin bin offense. All done by the video ref. The video refs should be investigated because it seemed as though they were in it to decide who was to win Game 1. But credit to the Maroons for sticking it right up there!
Need to adjust the HIA BS. If a player gets up normally, and is not wobbling around like he doesn't know what day it is, then leave him on till the end of the current set
No excuses, the difference was The Hammer, before that was Munster but Hammer showed up foxx and teddy with easy like nothing, if it wasn't for him being there other than gagai , nsw would've won, that's just it
SOS means more to QLD then NSW. It always has and always will. Period. 😮
S.O.O mate
Mate take a look at ya, you wouldn't know the first thing about sport
The Maroons are matching ON🔥🔥💪💪Less Talking More Action😁😂😂
The main difference is that QLD pick on form whereas NSW pick on past reputation. Teddy has past his use by date and should be replaced by Dylan Edwards.
That's not completely true. NSW often pick on club form but don't consider whether the person is an Origin player. We will not pick on club form but look at whether they are demonstrating and have demonstrated Origin qualities.
As good a bloke as Fittler is, he isn't much of a coach. That's evident by the fact he debuted players like TBJ and Hudson Young and STARTED them, instead of his best 13. He selected these players because of some vague "NSW aren't going to be bullied" reason.
Also his plan for Hynes was to plonk him on the bench for 80 minutes, or until an outside back went down injured. On the flip side, Slater chose and utilised each of his 4 interchange players effectively. As long as Slater is QLD's coach, and Fittler NSW's, they will always be inferior to QLD.
Fittler’s been out-coached again !
Luai was better than Cleary, Tedesco was awful and always got in the way. The right side never seen any ball in good position, and when they were Tedesco ruined it.
Tommy Turbo was 40% fit, at best. And worst of all of that - He picks the reigning Dally M winner, has him sitting on the bench for 68 minutes, and only gives him a run when there’s an injury. Hynes wouldn’t have played if Turbo didn’t get injured, so why not pick someone who was gonna be used ?!
If Qld win the series, Fittler’s job is untenable!!!
Miracle? they were outplayed with less players
Hahaha I was about to comment the exact same thing Hooper said - Buzz has been covering Origin for decades and he was still naive enough to think QLD were gone??!! This bloke doesn't know footy it's as simple as that
Teddy out and Edward's or gutho inn
nice win maroons but 2 games left
Hoops nailed it on the head with Teddy. Teddy was responsible for 4 tries being given. Edwards is the best fullback in the comp at the moment and Latrell is doing well too but the injury scares aren’t ideal. Edwards deserved that jersey for Game 1. If he didn’t impress then it could’ve been given back to Tedesco for Game 2 simple as that.
I did not watch the game, so I do not know how each person played but I cannot understand how Tedescoe was selected or how any of the doggies were selected. Roosters are down, teddy only scored one try all year, right? Carr has just come back from a long injury layoff. Even dog supporters criticise that pangai can be lazy. Why were they selected. I dont watch anyomre vecause I just know that QLD play with a stronger spirit than NSW. NSW players are all bark and no bite.
Never a miracle win if Queensland's winning
Talis is a breath of fresh air, keep him on and keep Kent out.
Kent is finished. Don't worry.
The Ipswich Jets might go well against this Victorian team, especially on that left side.
Teddy's been great..but you're only as good as your last game. In sports you have to constantly update your resume.
NSW look like a lump of club players bunched together. Queensland look like a team.
The media needs to stop writing off QLD before games! How do the Maroons always end up the underdogs when we’re leading in series wins!
What’s shocking is these headlines they keep coming up with! QLD ALWAYS TURN UP! NO MATTER WHAT! 💪🏾👊💥
I agree, but they're all now writing NSW off for game 2 at Suncorp, saying NSW don't have a chance.
You watch, NSW will bounce back in game 2 and take the win
@@bangbangzz1 Yeah this didn’t age well! 🤣 WHITE WASH INBOUND!!!
UP THE MAROONS!!!! 💪🏾😂🤣
@venom1889 lol, it didn't age well at all, did it 🤣
Reece Walsh... - KEEP COMIN.... ❤️❤️
Where was Teddy? 😂😂
At this point we might as well pay more attention to the women NSW team. UP THE BLUES!!! 💙💙💙
Nah, the cockroach sheilas lost too. 😆
They are more entertaining to watch😂
Gordon watching the footy…go the bull shout-out from Sydney, Australia
Hooper is *really* trying to make up for the lack of Kenty’s nonsensical crap, isn’t he?! 😂
Blues have got to concentrate on playing the game, not roughing up the opposition.
Tedesco having "money in the bank" ... can you cash that in after a loss? No? Well that should tell you all you need to know. Cleary underperformed, Luai won't pass to anyone that isn't a Panther, Turbo shouldn't have even been there, Tedesco is cooked (QLD have him figured out) and Freddy just didn't pick the right players. It's that simple. I put $$$ on QLD as soon as I saw the team lineup and got paid out and I don't really care who wins pride-wise one way or the other. NSW just had a terrible side and the inability of people like Ennis and Buzz to acknowledge a poor team and to pick new players who will get the job done means QLD wins game 2. People might say "Oh, well, they're playing in QLD so QLD will always win" is just a cop out for not owning up to terrible selections. The Penrith Panthers vs Maroons is a failed experiment. Gordy was the only one speaking sense that entire time.
Spot on. I've said before, Brisbane were THE side of the 90s. Half of the Qld side were Broncos. How did Queensland fare in SOO in the 90s ? From 1990 to 2000 only 3 series wins.
A well coached team doesn't need club combinations. In fact I think it makes it too hard for the guys who ( in this case) aren't Panthers. The Foxx couldn't get the ball.
Title should be "Clearly where was he".
Trying to set up plays but couldn't because teddy thought he was a half back
NSW has a great team of full backs
Why is Tedesco Australian captain?
The shock is that NSW should have dominated the last 10 minutes of Game 1 and secured a win.
Very unexpected for Tudesco to fall over and to be outplayed in the leap for that last high ball.
Too easy to target him as the scapegoat for the overall performance of the NSW team to not win.
In past years, I would be expecting the NSW selectors to make decimating team changes.
If QLD team wins Game 2, then the QLD supporters' expectations will be for a whitewash.
He certainly did not help the cause, along with fittlers tactics and game management.
Why aren’t the girls playing before the boys on origin night it would be great to see both games on the same night
My proposed team for game 2.
1. Nicho Hynes
2. Josh Ado Car
3. Litteral Mitchell
4.Campbell Graham
5. Brian To'o
6. Cody Walker
7. Nathan Cleary
8.Jr. Paulo
9. Api Korosai
10. Pane Has
11. Tyson Frizell
12. Cameron Murray
13. Iseya Yeo
14. Damian Cook
15. Liam Martin
16. Tavita Pangai Jr
17. Hudson Young
18. Mat Baton
NSW imploded in the first 5 mins they looked lost yes they had more ball but they did nothing at the critical moments with the ball and just dumb moments in defence
Teddy, Turbo and Fox need to go.
Fox and Turbo didn't get any ball mate
@@thomasrodwell563 no excuse for turbo he can roam...he is not fit.
Could not stride out in scoring those tries the other week.
I wouldn't be hard on the Fox.
Year after year it’s the same dialogue. There always seems to be a complacency within NSW and they don’t have the same mongrel as QLD. Everyone keeps blaming the backs but they can’t do their job without go forward up the guts!
The blues won the field position battle, they just couldnt score which is why the backs are being critisized
The blues got as much heart as a pea!
It's interesting that Braith said, when Reece Walsh touched the ball, 'ran at Payne Haas'. So Haas was holding back because he was tackling his clubland fullback?
Luai played better than Cleary...and they still lost...go QLD
those last comments by gordy , nothing could be truer, regardless which side you go for
Cleary isn't an origin player. People need to stop talking him up constantly. He's not as good as people keep telling him he is.