Over time, your teaching videos have become increasingly valuable - detailed, but still empathetic, point by point mechanical commentary and video demonstrations that can be incorporated by any beginner or intermediate “drop-in” player such as myself. Caden has been a great addition as well. 🙏🏽
Jordan, my wife sister-in-law and myself really enjoyed visiting at the Mesa tournament last week. You are authentic, and the best video teacher bar none. Deep diving in all aspects of the game. Keep up the great videos and thank you from the video pickleball universe
For those playing with a Continental Grip. Please give tips on how to change to Eastern (on the fly) and at what point do you make the decision to the change the grip (ie as opponent is about to make contact with the ball, etc.)
Excellent timing for this, as my wife and I were just talking about drilling on our 3rd shot drops more. This seems like a perfect compliment to that; one person works on drops while the other does this. Thanks!
Super breakdown of a very complex topic. Many variables to consider. Many beginners try to be aggressive with below-the-net volleys only to drive the hard into the net or WAY out-of-bounds because they just drove it flat vice sweep up, just "kissing" the ball's surface. Also, the paddle "grit" makes a big difference: a smooth paddle will have a much harder time.
Noticing as I move up the ladder in my local league, more and more of the better players are attacking from below the net with topspin. And my mind is immediately starting to question the value of a Drop. Most of us watched videos that left us with the idea that a 3rd shot must always be a Drop… even called the “3rd shot Drop.” Yet, while it gets me to the Kitchen, if I’m playing a player that can hit a top spin speed up, I’m essentially giving them a gift and inviting a fire fight. I’m starting to really think more about a 3rd shot drive and either using a “shake and bake” or thinking about moving to the transition zone after the drive and then considering either another drive or a 5th shot drop in a position to get them off balance. But a 3rd shot drop from near the baseline to a player waiting at the kitchen who can speed it up and feed it back to me while I try to get to the kitchen…. Only to eat it… seems like a very ill advised strategy. Am I missing something?
No, driving the 3rd is a tactic that high level players use. Dropping the 5th is usually what occurs after. If you can’t hit a good drop, then I would go with the strategy above. Although as you grow as a player, you should be able to hit good drops from the baseline at any time as well.
Silly question, but are you physically moving that grip mid play? Basically, just allowing the grip to be loosened to close the face a little bit more.
Once again I'll ask. At what point do you change your grip? Say you re in a 'continental' grip and a ball comes over you want to attack. How do you almost instantaneously change your grip? I keep seeing I should use this grip for this or that, but how does one adjust/change grip on the fly?
When your opponents are back, or the ball Is coming slow, you definitely have time to change your grip. During fast exchanges or when your opponents are up at the NVZ, you may not have time and should stay in your preferred grip. This is what I do
Thanks for your videos! For me, and I assume some other older players, pronating your arm in that brushing movement leads to elbow issues/soreness. Are there alternative methods for achieving top spin, even if not as much, that would create less stress on the elbow? Also, I ditto someone else’s question about how/when to transition from a continental grip to an eastern grip, on the fly. Thanks 🙏🏼
I actually think if you aren’t pronating correctly, that can cause elbow issues. Most amateur players use a lot of wrist or try to create topspin the incorrect way. There are other ways of creating topspin, but they aren’t as efficient.
A more aggressive shot of this would be the "flamingo", as many pros use it to keep back their opponents back. It would be great to see a video on that! Thank you Jordan for all you do for the pickleball community!
@@BrionesPickleball LOL Here it is! I need this in my toolbox! www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=flamingo+shot+in+pickleball#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0cc39a3f,vid:amsNyQ98EMY,st:0
@@BrionesPickleball You know this shot...it's just labeled The Flamingo. www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=flamingo+shot+in+pickleball#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0cc39a3f,vid:amsNyQ98EMY,st:0
@@BrionesPickleball I tried to share a clip, and an image, but apparently TH-cam doesn't allow that. Did you find it? It's leaning into the kitchen while hitting a shot hard to keep opponents back while pushing off with that back leg, so you end up standing on one!
And if you have to hit an unexpected backhand and you have no time to change grips? As rapid as the exchanges at the net are, I'm unsure how this applies. If I'm in the ad court and I shade over to the sideline and simply refuse to hit a backhand, the eastern looks like a great idea. But I can't see myself being more middle position, starting in continental, recognizing a swinging forehand opportunity and making the switch in time in a fast paced game.
To clarify, your ready position is always continental. You both are going from eastern forehand back to continental. On your backhand, do you use eastern backhand or just continental and supinate slightly to slightly close the face?
Over time, your teaching videos have become increasingly valuable - detailed, but still empathetic, point by point mechanical commentary and video demonstrations that can be incorporated by any beginner or intermediate “drop-in” player such as myself. Caden has been a great addition as well. 🙏🏽
Thanks!!!😊
This is one of my fav pickleball channels :) :) :) thanks man.
Appreciate the support!
Jordan, my wife sister-in-law and myself really enjoyed visiting at the Mesa tournament last week. You are authentic, and the best video teacher bar none. Deep diving in all aspects of the game. Keep up the great videos and thank you from the video pickleball universe
Thanks!!!
For those playing with a Continental Grip. Please give tips on how to change to Eastern (on the fly) and at what point do you make the decision to the change the grip (ie as opponent is about to make contact with the ball, etc.)
We’ll have to make a video on this soon
Great to see a pure techniques video again
More to come!
This is an excellent breakdown of a complicated shot. You and Caden make it look easy!
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Excellent timing for this, as my wife and I were just talking about drilling on our 3rd shot drops more. This seems like a perfect compliment to that; one person works on drops while the other does this. Thanks!
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Articulate instruction is appreciated. Thanks Briones.
Glad it was helpful!
Super breakdown of a very complex topic. Many variables to consider. Many beginners try to be aggressive with below-the-net volleys only to drive the hard into the net or WAY out-of-bounds because they just drove it flat vice sweep up, just "kissing" the ball's surface. Also, the paddle "grit" makes a big difference: a smooth paddle will have a much harder time.
Thanks for the comment!
Very thorough on position of the paddle
Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Graciass!! Excelente Master Class ❤
Saludos 🇵🇪
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Excellent demo and explanation.. Great job guys..
Thanks for watching!
Talk also about the ball contact point on the paddle.
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Very thorough video. 👍
Thanks Kari!! 😀
Very insightful and timely. Can't wait to drill on this. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Noticing as I move up the ladder in my local league, more and more of the better players are attacking from below the net with topspin.
And my mind is immediately starting to question the value of a Drop. Most of us watched videos that left us with the idea that a 3rd shot must always be a Drop… even called the “3rd shot Drop.”
Yet, while it gets me to the Kitchen, if I’m playing a player that can hit a top spin speed up, I’m essentially giving them a gift and inviting a fire fight.
I’m starting to really think more about a 3rd shot drive and either using a “shake and bake” or thinking about moving to the transition zone after the drive and then considering either another drive or a 5th shot drop in a position to get them off balance.
But a 3rd shot drop from near the baseline to a player waiting at the kitchen who can speed it up and feed it back to me while I try to get to the kitchen…. Only to eat it… seems like a very ill advised strategy.
Am I missing something?
No, driving the 3rd is a tactic that high level players use. Dropping the 5th is usually what occurs after.
If you can’t hit a good drop, then I would go with the strategy above.
Although as you grow as a player, you should be able to hit good drops from the baseline at any time as well.
@@BrionesPickleball cheers
Silly question, but are you physically moving that grip mid play? Basically, just allowing the grip to be loosened to close the face a little bit more.
Yes, I slightly adjust my grip
Nice breakdown.
Glad you liked it!
Once again I'll ask. At what point do you change your grip? Say you re in a 'continental' grip and a ball comes over you want to attack. How do you almost instantaneously change your grip? I keep seeing I should use this grip for this or that, but how does one adjust/change grip on the fly?
When your opponents are back, or the ball
Is coming slow, you definitely have time to change your grip. During fast exchanges or when your opponents are up at the NVZ, you may not have time and should stay in your preferred grip. This is what I do
For the swinging motion, are you mainly using your shoulder or your wrist/rotation of your forearm?
Pronation, shoulder flexion, and bicep contraction
@ thanks! Pronation is the wrist/forearm movement right?
@@kabnis2022 forearm, not wrist
Is that tripod good for practicing? Or is it just for instruction?
Great for practicing topspin
Thanks for your videos! For me, and I assume some other older players, pronating your arm in that brushing movement leads to elbow issues/soreness. Are there alternative methods for achieving top spin, even if not as much, that would create less stress on the elbow? Also, I ditto someone else’s question about how/when to transition from a continental grip to an eastern grip, on the fly. Thanks 🙏🏼
I actually think if you aren’t pronating correctly, that can cause elbow issues. Most amateur players use a lot of wrist or try to create topspin the incorrect way.
There are other ways of creating topspin, but they aren’t as efficient.
I'm older, and learned from my strength coach that you need to do arm strengthening exercises with weight to keep that pickleball elbow at bay.
A more aggressive shot of this would be the "flamingo", as many pros use it to keep back their opponents back. It would be great to see a video on that! Thank you Jordan for all you do for the pickleball community!
😊
I don’t know what the heck a 🦩 is ?
Lol
@@BrionesPickleball LOL Here it is! I need this in my toolbox! www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=flamingo+shot+in+pickleball#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0cc39a3f,vid:amsNyQ98EMY,st:0
@@BrionesPickleball You know this shot...it's just labeled The Flamingo.
www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=flamingo+shot+in+pickleball#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0cc39a3f,vid:amsNyQ98EMY,st:0
@@BrionesPickleball I tried to share a clip, and an image, but apparently TH-cam doesn't allow that. Did you find it? It's leaning into the kitchen while hitting a shot hard to keep opponents back while pushing off with that back leg, so you end up standing on one!
Great breakdown
Thanks!
So, can you hit a backhand TS attack with the same western grip?
I meant Eastern grip.
You can, although I recommend a continental or eastern backhand grip for BH shots
And if you have to hit an unexpected backhand and you have no time to change grips? As rapid as the exchanges at the net are, I'm unsure how this applies. If I'm in the ad court and I shade over to the sideline and simply refuse to hit a backhand, the eastern looks like a great idea. But I can't see myself being more middle position, starting in continental, recognizing a swinging forehand opportunity and making the switch in time in a fast paced game.
When opponents are back, you always have time. When they are up, you may not, and most likely are taking faster compact punch or push volleys.
is it a western grip?
Eastern
Great tip. Going to use it when I have a chance during my PPA Mesa tour
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Can this be done on a bounce or only out of the air?
This shot is specially for out of the air
@@BrionesPickleball Ok, thanks for the answer.
To clarify, your ready position is always continental. You both are going from eastern forehand back to continental. On your backhand, do you use eastern backhand or just continental and supinate slightly to slightly close the face?
Yes I use an eastern backhand for the backhand side. It really depends on what feels good and natural
For each player .
Good clear drill. Thanks!
When you hit the ball, is it open paddle face or close?
Slightly open
15 minutes…this sport is easier than kickball! I do both professionally and I promise kickball is harder.
Nice joke