Rich Eisen Still Can’t Believe That Bill Belichick Won’t Be Coaching On an NFL Sideline Next Season
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- Rich Eisen still can't understand that Bill Belichick won't be coaching on a NFL sideline next season because of Bill's incomparable knowledge of the game.
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while Bill is in Seattle it would be fun to see him and Pete talk football
I'm absolutely loving having Belichick hanging out with my Huskies
The guy coached Lawrence Taylor & Tom Brady & has 8 rings total ! He has nothing else to prove.
Never had LT when he was HC. Parcells had the brains, Belichick had Brady...
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Tuna never won without BB
They dragged him to 8 rings
@@richfarfugnuven6308Belichick and Parcells went head to head in 1994, Browns vs Patriots. And Belichick’s team knocked Parcells’ team out of the playoffs. THEN in 1996 when Belichick joined Parcells again as assistant head coach, the Patriots went to the Super Bowl
Which coach wouldn’t have 8 super bowl’s coaching the best player ever and the best defensive player ever??
Ever seen the Waterboy that was basically coaching LT plus they had other All Pros on that defense
Bill Belichick was in Seattle for 5 days. He spoke at a football coaching seminar. He was with the Husky players and coaches all 5 days. We are so lucky to have Steve Belichick on our coaching staff. Go Huskies!
The same thing happened to Mike Shanahan. Bill and Mike, the GM, got Bill and Mike the HC fired...
He’s 70 something years old. It’s time.
I'd bet $10 that Belichick won't ever coach an NFL team again. Just doesn't seem like owners are interested in the Full Belichick Package.
he wants far to much power I am sure...only an idiot would give him power over anything but a defense again...
@@bodhisfattva7462I watched someone take a left on a rotary today, but this opinion makes that guy look like Einstein.
Why would any Owner want the GREATEST COACH TO EVER EXIST on their team?? I sure would love to pay a coach with both no experience or wins, fresh out of the NCAA, and give him a 5 year 200 million dollar contract just to coach my team. Multiple Super bowl winning Bill Belichick is just asking for to much. .😂
And without guarantees of results, you’re prove of right
Which is funny because they for long kept picking from the Belichick tree hoping to capture some of that magic. Now they have the opportunity to get the real deal and are scared because of how badly things ended. Recency bias is wild.
It blows my mind the falcons chose Raheem Morris who’s 21-38 as a hc over bellichick
we don't know if Bill said No or if the falcons passed up on him.
Maybe The Falcons as well as the other 30 NFL teams (excluding being fired by The Pats) crunched the numbers as well as the analytics and did the statistical forensics (Perhaps even using AI) and came to the conclusion that Belichick was an overrated fraud who could not win without Brady. I had a lil fun with it myself and did a little research and i came up with ⬇
Belichick without Brady
1991 - out of playoffs
1992 - out of playoffs
1993 - out of playoffs
1995 - out of playoffs
2000 - out of playoffs
2001 (0-2) After Week 3 with Brady 14-3
2008 - out of playoffs
2020 - out of playoffs
2022 - out of playoffs
2023 - out of playoffs
*.438 Win%* in 130 games without him
Context - 130 games is = to 8.12 seasons
I know if i was working for the Falcons as a consultant that's exactly the way i would present my case.
And *CHUMP* apparently you or the 26 fellow dorks who agreed with you never took into account what Morris had to work with.
Go ahead try and take me on? I'm Derek Jeter over here in the on-deck circle ready to come up to bats.
How's that for "blowing your mind"?
Poor NE is going downhill fast this year. Spoiled fans are crying and loosing sleep.
Ne fan here had my time in the sun, now it’s over and completely content with the reality of not being relevant for 15+ years certainly not loosing sleep or crying (unless it’s rewatching Brady) just want the team to be competitive and not become the jets
This year? We went 4-13 last year!! Get out from under that rock!
@@ryguy3597that’s sad 😂
We’ve had our 20 years of time in the sun, more time than most nfl fans can say. No team was this good for this long, from 2000-2021 was the best time to be alive for a pats fan. I truly can’t thank the Pats enough for the amazing games and amazing Super Bowl runs that won’t ever be replicated. Go Pats!
@Woozie87 Billy B’s decisions as a coach made Vegas happy for those years. Respect
Seeing Bill Belichik in Seattle wearing all U-dub gear was not on my offseason bingo card!
I just think teams are starting to look for younger minds to coach NFL teams nowadays
And fire half of them by week 5 and still pay them 50 million for the next 4 years to not coach.
That's stupid
If Andy Reid was a free agent he would have 20 teams trying to hire him the next day
This is true. Dosent change the fact that most of the teams new coaching hires have been younger guys in recent years.
Bill is being passed over because we all saw what Brady did the next year after he left. And then we all saw the Pats fall completely apart worse and worse over the ensuing years. Plus we all don't know how much control he wants over the organization, if he's demanding to have player control, some teams may not want that. Falcons were the only serious ones and they passed, gotta wonder why.
I’m surprised that he won’t be in the NFL coaching. Experience to me is always better than youth and old school is always better than new school
Isn't Pete Carroll's son the OC @ Washington? Thats interesting...they get Pete Carroll and Belichick as advisors?
I think Carroll still has some title with the Seahawks.
Belichick is a football genius. I miss Pete Carroll as much. Carroll understands and treats people in a way that is inspiring. Seattle won 9 games last season and I think Geno was hurt vs the Giants and it took him a bit to get back to his best self. 1 more close win and Carroll would still be coaching. Which would make the NFL a better place.
Won't be shocked if he doesn't return to coaching because I think he's going to be a big fixture on Pats show. Seeing him laugh and smile on the draft show was wholesome
I'm shocked 😲 and amazed this goat 🐐 is not coaching this year.
He’s a G man next year!
Talking football with Belichick must be like talking movies with Tarantino
Must be like talking similes with Y2K2PointO
I don't think either Bill or Pete Carroll will coach in the NFL again. Age plus diminishing returns in recent years probably has GMs and owners looking to go younger. (Though Washington probably should have grabbed Belichick over Dan Quinn)
The greatest age out of being greatest. A coach is judged by his most recent seasons, not his vintage greatest. As you said he was bad the last few years in many areas.
If you're a GM, you don't want to hire Belichick & have him take over your job responsibilities to "buy the groceries". Belichick is 71, so if you're in a tear-down & rebuild mode, and looking for a coach for the next 10-20 years, it makes actuarial sense to hire a younger coach. So the market for Belichick narrows down to a "win-now" team that thinks they're good enough to be a Super Bowl contender, but for some reason wants to fire their current coach, and also doesn't mind throwing their current GM under the bus as well.
Nah it’s kinda wild lmao
It obviously doesn't have anything to do with his football knowledge. I think it's his increasing difficulty relating to younger players. I think Brady was sort of his filter for a long time, helping him communicate with the young guys, and once Brady was gone, he just couldn't maintain the loyalty and cohesiveness...
Seriously dude... bellicheck completely screwed that team up starting before the year brady left.
7:59 😂
It’s age discrimination. If he was 10 years younger he would have had his choice of jobs within a few minutes. I look at guys who got jobs this offseason or in the last few years: Quinn, Morris, Staley, Allen, Eberflus, etc. It’s laughable that owners seriously believe Bill isn’t worthy of a job compared to these other guys. Half of these guys will be fired in 2 years.
It’s not Age discrimination, It’s not adapting to younger players and probably wanted control of everything. The old way of coaching is done and doesn’t fly anymore
@@r3tr0actiongamer24 the assumption is that he he can’t do it because of his age, it’s age discrimination
Lucky enough to work with a couple real genius people in my life. They couldnt teach for crap. They didnt really want to.
The reasons why BB isn't a HC has all to do with his age than anything else. I guarantee you if he was 10 years younger he'd have a HC/GM job on an NFL team.
No owner would want to upend their team for a HC that may stay, at most, 5 years knowing the HC that follows couldn't hold a candle to the previous HC. Said owners has seen most coaches in the BB tree can't coach like BB. It'd be a dead end for what? A small chance you get the GOAT coach to take a team to the SB in 5 years w/o the GOAT QB? No way.
Yeah, Rich is usually a little resistant in accepting the speed/harsh reality of change. Not a criticism, just an observation.
Almost as wild as Bill not having a job is why Matt Rhule does. That said, Rhule nailed it right there.
Bill made his own bed after Brady left. Not supporting your rookie QB with talent, hiring atrocious coordinators, horrible draft picks. Teams saw him ruin a rookie QB and ask for total control and decided to pass.
The NFL is fully a "quarterback" game now. Coaches who abandon or even do not fully support their quarterbacks are history and Owners talk to each other. Also, quartebacks who do not fully propel their team to the playoffs within a reasonable time or fans are not fully buying into their QB, are history in record time now. Bill will likely never coach an NFL team again. Owners want coaches that cheerlead and not a relic of time that has passed.
Yes, Bill's knowledge of the game is phenomenal. It takes more than knowledge to be a successful coach. Ever have a boss who was really smart and didn't treat you well?
Ever read something dumb on the internet? I know I have... recently.
Yes
This is a comment made by someone who wants snacks and hugs not raises.
Ever run into someone who's field of expertise is statistical forensics and can prove to an absolute, irrefutable 100% certainty that phenomenal knowledge of the game was predicated off of being gifted the greatest QB in NFL history.
How's this for Bill's phenomenal resume without #12 (And Kraft Understood it Also)
Belichick without Brady
1991 - out of playoffs
1992 - out of playoffs
1993 - out of playoffs
1995 - out of playoffs
2000 - out of playoffs
2001 (0-2) After Week 3 with Brady 14-3
2008 - out of playoffs
2020 - out of playoffs
2022 - out of playoffs
2023 - out of playoffs
.438 Win% in 130 games without him
Context - 130 games is = to 8.12 seasons
@@youthinkyouknowme5551 To be fair, I've never met someone who claims to have experience in statistics AND ALSO thinks they can prove something with absolute, irrefutable 100% certainty.
They just wanna keep reading the resume when he has already shown us the work he produces
I think he wants to coach only the Cowboys or the Giants. And this was not the year for it. Next year.
And I think we can also agree that Bill put himself in this position. And that's leaving alone his record without Brady.
gonna miss that Belichick press conference segment, not Bill himself!
Perhaps BB will carefully choose his next spot? Or, he’s OK taking a year off and consulting?
Glad to see Don Shula will remain the all time winningest coach in the history of the league. As a long suffering dolphin fan its one of the few things we have left.
Imagine if Bill decided to teach a history of American Football class. You could prob get people to commit on that alone
The old way of coaching is done. Adapt or die
him and pete should both come in and just 'son', their sons....
You just answered your own question, Rich...lol.
With all due respect or not, Belichik is a major pain.
Belichek has made a bunch of boneheaded operational decisions in the last couple of years.
His assistant coaching decisions is enough push him out of head coaching consideration.
The talent on the Patriots is decidedly worse since Brady left, without Brady, Belicheck seems to be unable to attract quality players.
He WAS a great coach. He may know a lot, but his old ways don't work anymore.
As much criticism/scrutiny as the Patricia/Judge thing got, it didn't get enough. It was the single-biggest, strategic-level coaching blunder I've ever seen. Any other coach would've been told 1) Hell no, you're not doing that (or, appropriately, "it's 110% on you now") and 2) sure as hell gotten fired for it. That Bill not only did it, blatantly failed and then WANTED TO RUN IT BACK says a LOT about why no one wants to hire him and put up with Bill being Bill. If anyone hasn't noticed (esp. during Bill's EXCRUCIATING, excusefest pressers that weirdly became his NORM during the past 3 seasons), BILL IS NEVER WRONG. THIS, and being over 70, and probably wanting, oh, at least $15M/per are why he doesn't have a job. It's not hard to figure out AT ALL.
Bill's tenure ent WAY south on him once TOM BRADY walked out the door. End of story.
To be honest i think he's waiting for the Giants job to open up
That would be incredible.
The guy is 72yrs old! Can he deserve the right to just retire after a prolific career? Why would you still coach at his age? Leave the guy alone
Just let the freaking guy retire
Next year he's going to NY. Both franchises will be desperate enough to take a chance on him after another losing season
It is not what you know but what you can effectively communicate to
Today's players and get them to respond.
Give it up he’s an old man who ended his career as a bad coach
He probably doesn't want to coach in this league anyways. With the new tackling rules for this upcoming season, we're not that far away from flag football.
3 minutes in a we finally get to "Bill Belichick knows a lot about football..."
Belichick is not what you think he is.....without Brady
It’s the belichick Carrol fisch era of football. Welcome to Montlake. Be a pro
& with any luck, he'll stay off the sideline.
Patrick Mahomes is ALREADY the new Brady
If he gave up GM duties then I'm sure Belichick would have had like 15 teams pining after him. Its Bill the GM no one wants not Bill the coach. That's how bad Bill the GM is
i can believe it...he has proven very recently that you cant give him the power he will require unless you want a trash team...
History is nice. What have you done lately?
It was Tom Brady all along , case close.
Doesn’t Matt Rhule pretty much explain it?
You’ve got to be a very secure GM to hire someone who has had more success doing your job than anyone else ever, and who likely has more years football experience than you have spent on Earth.
He’s also going to be incredibly hard to manage, and he might not be great at reading the room (if everyone’s dancing in their seats, just let them go for a piss…).
His way is going to take years to implement too, and he doesn’t have that. It sucks not to have the grumpy old guy around and I wish he’d ended with a better season and a proper farewell, but his time is done.
I guess I missed the docuseries on "How to Get a Hard-On for Bill".
All greats have to move on.
Bill is waiting for the cowboys job rich. Come on bro .......
Not really, Bill’s record wout Brady isn’t that great
Suffer Patriots
I'm not buying it, Mr Eisen, because before Brady, Belichick coaching career was average to mediocre, and those are the facts!
So called Pats' fan blamed Belicheck for not spending Kraft's money and wanted him gone. The GOAT coach is gone, and money still isnt being spent, Kraft was always the issue.
Is it really all that hard to believe that a coach in his 70’s who has a losing record without his HOF GOAT QB and who wants complete control isn’t working? 😂🤡
I don't know why this is surprising to anyone. Belichick was only a great coach with Brady, he was a terrible GM, the last two or three season in New England didn't go well, he would expect a big salary and total control of a team, and he's pushing 72 years old. If a desperate team wanted to sign him to a cheap, short-term contract then maybe, but it didn't happen. He needs to retire.
He hasn't accomplished much of anything without Brady. Brady carried him for 20 years and everyone knows that. Bill desperately wants the record for most wins ever, so he's not just gonna ride off into the sunset.
His time in NE didn't fall apart because of his coaching, it was because of his GM abilities. He can still cook, but someone else has to buy the ingredients.
I concur
It's not just that...when you handicap his wallet, wtf can he buy to make a 5 course meal?
No one questions what he was and what he knows, but times have changed. The reasons he'll never coach again are 1) he clearly doesn't possess the ability to relate to and properly motivate this new generation of players who were raised under positive re-enforcement rather than Bill's classic negative re-enforcement methods and 2) he is a terrible evaluator of talent while also demanding to be the team's GM. No NFL team is signing up for the Darth Bill, post-70, last hoorah revenge tour train fire because it's going to absolutely sink and destroy the franchise that buys into it and set them back half a decade or more.
You're just envious that you never came up with the idea of putting the challenge flag inside an old knitted sock
How does Rich, of all people, not understand why Bill isn't on any team? He's old, stubborn as hell, and not willing to give up the power he once had. Teams want a young coach that they can hopefully have around for 10, 20, or 30+ years if they're lucky and not Bill who is nothing more than a stop gap rental for 5 years tops.
HC job will be available in Chicago about week 7 as the Bears start 0-6!
Because he sucks and is not worth the distraction or headache that comes with him. He got exposed after Brady left and is not that good.
Too old and too stubborn. It was mostly Brady anyway. I think that's been proven. He will not coach another NFL team
It's called ageism. Bill is 70. If he were 60, every team with an opening would have been all over him.
It's called Bradyism > A horrific *.438 Win%* in 130 career coaching games without Brady. I'll give you context on that statistical forensic . That's like ordering from a non Brady pizza chain 130 times and every time the pizza shows up it has only 4 pieces instead of 10. Further context *130 games* is equal to 8.12 full seasons.
And as for your hypothetical *IF* Without Brady he never would have made to age 60 as a head coach
@@reallifelebowski4732 Yes, all great coaches need a great QB. Andy Reid never won a SB until Mahomes arrived.
@@marvinshenk I'm Waiting
I understand why, he’s old! We don’t need 75 year old presidents or nfl coaches.
I'm not saying that Belichick couldn't win again in the right situation (accepting a GM who he isn't the boss of would be the big one), but this was about two minutes of "Bill Belichick screwed up the Patriots over the last few years" and seven minutes of "He should be a coach somewhere because he tells good stories." (Again, I think he probably could be successful in another setting, but talking for four hours about a game 30 years ago doesn't necessarily mean you can make it work now...I wouldn't be surprised if Tiger Woods could give a shot-by-shot recounting of his first Masters, but that doesn't mean he's winning it this year.)
He’s too old to engage with younger players. And unwilling to adjust his methods of communication. He may be Albert Einstein in football knowledge but it’s clear his arrogance won’t let him reach the people who need to execute his brilliance on the field.
To this day I cannot figure Matt Patricia as OC. Beyond head scratching bizarre. But it also shows clearly the impact McDaniels had on both that offense and #12.
The one thing I think about is that Matt became a head coach and had that experience, so he had to pay special attention to that side of the ball a lot. Another thing is, Matt is very smart. Like, really, really, highly intellectual (don't let the pencil behind the ear fool ya haha). Belichick is also very gifted in those areas. Maybe they connect on a different level. With all of that said, it was very odd. But he replaced him with a noted offensive coordinator in O'Brien, and I would say Patricia did a better job.
I didn't know McDaniel's coached Brady at Michigan when he threw for 4 TD's and 400 yards in that Orange Bowl game against +21 point favorite Alabama with the best defense in the nation. Same as when Brady led the entire NFL in TD's passing in only his 2nd season. How about when Brady lighted up Carolina in the (03) SB win. How about 01 where The Pats went from a 28th ranked offense to 6th overnight in 2001 with Brady?
Funny how McDaniels was a total bum everywhere else
Hi Rich, big fan of the show here. It’s gotten lazy and tiring to qualify Mac Jones as a good QB because of his rookie season. He simply wasn’t up to the challenge. Exhibit A is the game in Buffalo where he wasn’t allowed to throw at all. If we all can see it, then you too should absolutely end all excuses upon him. Let me be more clear, Mac Jones is a worse than Zach Wilson. At least the latter had some velocity and chemistry with his mum’s friends.
It explains why he dropped in the draft and the only fault to level on Bill is picking him at 15th overall. Still love the show but we actually watched all the games and it’s wasn’t Bill repeatedly handling the ball to the other teams. Don’t@me
Wilsons' Moms' friends LOVED Zachs' velocity!!
Just because you know NFL history doesn't mean you can still coach. You got 2 choices: either bill can't coach and evaluate talent or he did what he did to Mac Jones out of spite and vindictiveness. Either one tells someone not to let him be the head coach.
Bill tried multiple coaches to help Mac Jones succeed and pick him to be drafted. Ever think that Mac Jones just sucked and Kraft is too cheap to spend. Tom had them both spoiled, but at least Bill won games with Bledsoe and Jimmy G.
@@b.r.6175 Mac isn't great but it didn't help hiring Judge and Patricia to be OC for year 2. What's the excuse for that other than bill hiring his sycophants. Once again that's something that a head coach who's on top of his game does not do but someone who is banking on past glory and thinks he can get away with.
@@b.r.6175 also if Mac sucks then that goes to bill not able to evaluate talent correctly so not head coach worthy. Can't have it both ways.
He can't evaluate offensive talent, that's all. He can still coach.
He also coaches in a way that modern players do not like, which would make him less appealing to hire tho.
Idk why you think getting the right/wrong QB is necessarily a HC's fault, it's usually a collaborative effort with scouts, GM, ownership, coaches, etc...
Not to mention, teams wiff on QBs all the time, and Trevor Lawrence, the 1 overall is literally the only starting QB left from that class. Pats needed a QB, is what it is.
@@b.r.6175 Belichick was 5-13 with Bledsoe and the year after Bledsoe left he was a Pro Bowler in Buffalo. And how's this for food for thought. Testaveri, Kosar and Bledsoe were all 1st pick ,1st overall QB's and Belichick SUCKED with all 3. Try and get around that one pal.
No HC for Bill going forward. Consultant maybe a coordinator. For a season or two.
Btw. Bill is about same age as half the owners.
Rich’s disrespect of Raheem Morris is real.
LOL he's a forked hors d'oeuvre compared to the savant genius that is Belichick
@@mjripforever ****asterisk****
@@mjripforever So you like European cuisine? How's this for a little appetiser Champ?
Chef de partie Monsieur Bill Belaciko recipe cookbook rating without his main ingredient (BRADY) is
1991 out of playoffs
1992 out of playoffs
1993 out of playoffs
1995 out of playoffs
2000 out of playoffs
2001 (0-2) After Brady 14-3
2008 out of playoffs
2020 out of playoffs
2022 out of playoffs
2023 out of playoffs
And a horrendous *.438 Win% Coach* in 130 games without Chocolate Souffle Brady
How's that for savant genius Champ?
You put this Stanford Grad who's field of expertise is Statistical Forensics in a Court of Law against anyone supporting Belichump and i would absolutely annihilate and obliterate them
@@mjripforever 😂man you just got destroyed hahaha. Probably not a good idea in the future to use cooking as a metaphor😛
billy b will be back. Back in black....! Despite owners wanting the youngins there's always gonna be that aging owner who can't afford to wait *cough cough* looking at you mr. jones after you dump mccarthy and dak when the boys flame out in the divisional again.
Plus the opportunity to stick it to the giants again haha 1st hiring parcells and next year belichick
Nobody retires from the NFL: Everybody is told, in one way or another, that it is time to leave. That applies for coaches and players, no matter how highly lauded they were in their prime.
I’m sure he wanted to be GM and he’s a terrible GM
Rich seems to have forgotten the rhetorical question, “what have you done for us lately?” Mac Jones’ second year seemed to be more about Belichick trying to re-teach his coaching proteges about how the offense should be handled than by actually developing a good quarterback, with the result that Mac fell apart and couldn’t recover. And Belichick’s failure to recruit and develop talent in the post-Brady era resulted in the Pats’ losing record the past two years. Teams won’t hire a HC with a losing record unless it’s at a lesser position like a coordinator, which Belichick probably wouldn’t accept.
When you leave a job and your employer trashes you, no one is going to hire you. You saw Bob Kraft in the Apple Documentary damn him with faint praise in public. I am sure Kraft is trashing BB behind closed doors to the other owners.
When was the last time he was head coach of a playoff team that didn't have Tom Brady on it?
2021. It's crazy how quickly people forget lol
Mac Jones, Your going to look like Tom Jones if you lose one more button on that shirt. There is no way Susie let you walk out of the house with your shirt unbuttoned one button too much.
Bill thinks he is smarter than common sense. D coordinator to call offensive plays. Should have been fired right there
Ur know so little about football that im loosing iq points just by talking to you rn
@@bluescripts100 Can't lose what you don't have...
I’m not even close to surprised. Knowing everything about football is only part of the job.
Rich needs to fix his shirt. Unless he's actually going for that "freshly fucked" look.
Perfect comment. What would Larry David say about that shirt situation?